what if i just put waifu on 7 inch internal monitor
#building-and-recc-chat
earnest olive
errant fiber
my gf would want that
errant fiber
what if i just put waifu on 7 inch internal monitor
good point
simple olive
my gf would want that
The tongue & nose glows
errant fiber
yeston gpu's are pretty cool though
other than the fragrance
they're awesome
the designs are epic
simple olive
Yea, never saw irl before though
simple olive
Pretty original case ngl
errant fiber
yea it's pretty dope
simple olive
They make waifu cases too 👀
earnest olive
id buy if i was a girl fr
just do it anyways smh
strong raft
btw 100w tdp to 250w tdp, 
. 1650S does pretty well for a $160 gpu.
errant fiber
btw 100w tdp to 250w tdp, <:monkaS:593661568106102804>. 1650S does pretty well f...
o...oh..
simple olive
https://ae04.alicdn.com/kf/H0ee3a5b9a6ca4eb2896f6954cd2ef6241.jpg
$250 case 💀
earnest olive
unlimited power (draw)
strong raft
I didn't know asus actually made a strix 1060, wow . Got overkill.
errant fiber
why am i falling in love with yeston fr
the fans too
bruh
i love the pastel colors
simple olive
Fans are pretty good ngl
strong raft
earnest olive
I didn't know asus actually made a strix 1060, wow . Got overkill.
strix gtx 750ti would like a word
errant fiber
gts 480 would like a word
strong raft
only 2 fan though, but I hear ya.
simple olive
Was there a strix 550 Ti?
earnest olive
it's just funny to see "premium" branding on bottom tier components lol
strong raft
750 ti was 60w tdp lol, did it have a power port though?
simple olive
Lolol
strong raft
to be fair the 550 wasnt labeled strix at all. talk about profit though for some of these. EDIT: 750 (700 series) seems like some of the 1st strix models
errant fiber
slot powered..?
strong raft
basically 15ish watts of (safe) OC headroom, haha 
strong raft
ok how about some real build chat. Keep 11600K or get 12400(F)?
earnest olive
exposed caps are definitely still acceptable
and no, it's a 750ti
depends on pricing
strong raft
(All new still) cpu+hsf from 'zon, mobo from ebay only thing I might lose a few bucks on.
earnest olive
the performance should be pretty similar
11600K has a better igpu if you care about that
12400 better IPC but 11600K can clock higher to compensate
errant fiber
yeah imo id stay with the 11600k
earnest olive
12400 has a much better upgrade path, but considering you're still running an i5-3550 i don't think you care about upgrading on the same mobo
errant fiber
anything would be a big upg for him
earnest olive
well he already has the new stuff
strong raft
igpu no issue, and even if same perf 12gen seems much lower wattage perhaps. idk
errant fiber
yeah
earnest olive
yeah 12th gen ought to be more efficient
strong raft
tbh choosing HSF is the only slight possible hiccup
earnest olive
if it were me i'd probably keep 11600K cause i don't want a locked chip LOL
OC is fun
but the 12400 is the better choice overall
it's just
how much better to be worth the hassle of upgrading
strong raft
Combo deals lose money usually but perhaps that's an easier sale to an OC'er. Edit, yep. having all the parts is such a taunt.
errant fiber
bro id lowkey keep the 11600 and the mobo u have rn just because i don't want to deal with selling and buying again
such a long process
id just straight up upgrade 😭
they're both good chips
strong raft
Even just the mobo? Heck I'd thought of doing the 12700F instead also, lol. Even if that's extra money on top.
earnest olive
it seriously bothers me that the i5s have different core counts
12600 and 12600K have different core counts...
let alone 12400 and 12600K
errant fiber
12600 doesn't have the extra 2?
earnest olive
12600 is 6+0, 12600K is 6+4
strong raft
tbh I dont mind no E cores on the 12400 (for price), but the 12600 non K is 100% funky to have.
errant fiber
that's crazy
earnest olive
they are the same number why do they have different core count
strong raft
Part of what makes the lowly 12700 look good. Hmm, saving 50w or less vs 11gen(600K) probably isn't quite worth the time/effort for me huh.
Although 10-game average at techspot they showed this
tight sorrel
12700k/non k is the sweet spot
strong raft
650w evga G3 btw, or G+/G1 in the new rig was the plan. I've heard this older G3 might be a better psu?
mossy venture
Keep in mind, eth price isn't all that effects mining earnings
When eth was 3k back in September or whenever it was I made 4.5 a day with my fhr 3060 ti
Now I make 3 on a good day
Is it annoying to replace a gpus fans?
Some fan in my pc makes noise sometimes
Think it's my gpu fans
tight sorrel
Some fan in my pc makes noise sometimes
forget fans, get a custom loop for it
mossy venture
forget fans, get a custom loop for it
I value my sanity, my wallet, and my time
vague oracle
I value my sanity, my wallet, and my time
Funny enough, that’s exactly what I said when I first joined
@fossil cedar Can confirm, I have made some really dumb purchases since I joined
Mostly just to have fun
fossil cedar
<@!191276897227898880> Can confirm, I have made some really dumb purchases since...
3700x + apex who
vague oracle
3700x + apex who
Apex?
vague oracle
Crosshair VIII Hero
vague oracle
Lol yeah
Then there’s the Z170 OC Formula that just never showed up
All of the materials for my workstation PC
fossil cedar
Oh dam
vague oracle
I really need to just put a lock on my wallet and give the key to you or sippy
mossy venture
I think I'll be right there with you soon enough
fossil cedar
I really need to just put a lock on my wallet and give the key to you or sippy
Gib
I only allow good value purchases
vague oracle
So no random 980 pro purchases? 
frank stirrup
I really need to just put a lock on my wallet and give the key to you or sippy
or me i totally wont blow it all on destiny 2
100%
dw about it
im not addicted ur addicted
vague oracle
Oh don’t worry I already dropped more than 1000 on that game
fossil cedar
So no random 980 pro purchases? <:ssadge:827702421279080468>
If you want s tier drive, that's whats what this boi is for
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCqPxr/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs70b-2t-cs
bleak hound
@fossil cedar you know anything about TV?
fossil cedar
Not much
tight sorrel
Oh don’t worry I already dropped more than 1000 on that game
was gonna comment, but then rememberd how long I been subbed to WoW
carry on
mossy venture
That's one thing I haven't done much of
I dont do microtransactions often
I spend my money in other stupid ways
mossy sparrow
Hey all - new here. I have a 3080 Ultra on the way, and my system is a Ryzen 1600 (non-X) w/ 16gb 3000mhz DDR4. Anyone know how much my CPU will bottleneck? I have gotten the CPU up to 3.75ghz from the stock 3.2ghz, and so far seems to be stable w/o issues. I cannot seem to get 3.8ghz stable, which is annoying, because many people say "almost all 1600s should be able to do 3.8ghz at least". I also cannot get my RAM to run above 3000mhz whatsoever, even though reviews on my RAM include many people saying they've done 3600 or even 3800!
obsidian wigeon
well
you have a 1600
zen couldn't handle anything more than 3200mhz
but eh, nah. it won't be a bottleneck
mossy sparrow
Ah I see, that would be the problem then 😄
mossy venture
How wouldn't it be
obsidian wigeon
1440p would solve the bottleneck
mossy sparrow
I'll be 1440p ideally (1440p 165hz monitor)... never 4k
obsidian wigeon
yeah that's good
mossy venture
3600 and 3080 @1440p would be fine
obsidian wigeon
even a 1600 is ok
mossy venture
2600, not terrible
obsidian wigeon
it's not too bad
mossy sparrow
My mobo will support 3xxx series Ryzen, but not 5xxx. Hoping to survive on the 1600 until next gen comes out and then do full mobo+cpu swap
mossy venture
My mobo will support 3xxx series Ryzen, but not 5xxx. Hoping to survive on the 1...
12400f+b660 prime would see you a lot of benefit, and you can get for around 320$ pre tax
mossy sparrow
That's not bad - not familiar... 12400 sounds like Intel?
mossy venture
If you want to wait for 7000 series, hopefully it'll come out q3 this year
Yes
12400 is an i5
It beats a 5600x
By a small margin
It's also 180$, as opposed to 5600x normally costing 250+
obsidian wigeon
it doesn't
just averages out to be near 5600x
but it really doesn't beat it lel
tho it being only 180 bucks is nice
mossy venture
Not in the benches I was looking at
mossy venture
I was looking at cpubenchmark.net
obsidian wigeon
but results from gn follows what they got
mossy venture
Passmark
obsidian wigeon
yeah in benchmarks 5600x is slower
mossy venture
Also here's the 1600 vs 3600 bench
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/2984vs3243vs3481
obsidian wigeon
but games, not really
mossy sparrow
I think ideally I'll wait for 7000 series. I'm ok with not maxing graphics - more concerned about high framerates at the moment. Is it still mostly-accurate that the i5 and Ryzen 5 series are best for gaming, and that i7/i9 and R7/9 are not necessarily better for gaming? More concerned with per-core speed and less with # of cores?
mossy venture
Ehh
12700 is a fair bit better than 12400 in gaming
5800x vs 5600x in gaming I not sure
But there's more of a difference than just core count
mossy sparrow
(Btw all I will be playing is COD, Elden Ring, and Diablo 4 when it eventually arrives... I can't believe I'm even buying a 3080 when it's hard for me to make time for gaming. Was hoping for a 3060 Ti, but my bro-in-law snagged a 3080 for me... he's already got a 3090 so didn't need it)
mossy venture
3700x wasn't much better than 3600 in gaming
mossy venture
(Btw all I will be playing is COD, Elden Ring, and Diablo 4 when it eventually a...
Could always trade the 3080 down
mossy sparrow
Could always trade the 3080 down
I can't 😄 now that I've mentally prepared myself for the 3080 cost... I'm too excited about it haha
Hoping once I get CPU+mobo maybe later this year, the combo + 3080 will last me a number of years, considering I don't play too much variety and as mentioned care more about frames than maxing quality
mossy venture
It definitely will
My guess is you'll be able to play any game for around 5 years, give or take a bit
gritty rover
So I’m thinking about getting a prebuilt but 
I really did want the experience of building my own pc because I was very interested in the process and feeling accomplished after building it. But 
if I get a prebuilt n stuff… I could eventually upgrade that too but hmmm
autumn wolf
an option you can do is nzxt bld kit (assuming youre ok with those parts, 10400f, 3060ti), its a pc you build yourself and they have a booklet that comes with it as a step by step guide to help you
only thing though is id replace the psu
autumn wolf
believe so but dont remember
gritty rover
Ooohh okay, I’ll check the website again, I completely forgot about that
tight sorrel
you could awlays buy a prebuilt, take it appart, then put it back together 🙂
little osprey
everyone does installments thanks to klarna
stoic island
bld kit had a really bad psu iirc
fossil cedar
bld kit had a really bad psu iirc
Yep s2ii
gritty rover
you could awlays buy a prebuilt, take it appart, then put it back together 🙂
True, I could even replace it with some parts
I wanted to do art commissions to help cover the costs of the build
Hmmm
My mom agrees I should get pre built too it’d be quicker, though my uncles were looking forward to building it with me. Ima look for some more prebuilt n find one I like
If not I’ll get the Nzxt pre build thing
And when I get older I do plan on getting a pc upgrade and various more in the future so I don’t rlly care if the one I get/build is a bit crappy because it can be a learning experience
stoic island
get like abs prebuilt, upgrade cooler
gritty rover
Ooohh abs :0? Where can I get one
stoic island
gritty rover
Lol
Okay I came up with plan, gonna get a pre built but swap out some pieces
Hopefully I can have pc by February
tight sorrel
nice
gritty rover
Yuhhh
God I don’t want the peripherals with the pc… I already have peripherals, I found a good listing within my budget but mmm, there’s no option to take off the peripherals, I’ll continue to look
stoic island
God I don’t want the peripherals with the pc… I already have peripherals, I foun...
What's your budget?
and you could take the peripherals and just not use it
gritty rover
Oohh true, I’ll give the peripherals to a friend then
gritty rover
What's your budget?
$1.3k-$1.5k
I plan to pay in installments so I could probably go a bit over it by a few
I’ll send link of what I found
Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Challenger Gaming PC - Windows 10 Home - Intel i5 11400F - GeForce GTX 1660 Super - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali598/p/N82E16883360233?Item=N82E16883360233&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-233-_-01182022
Is this one good :oo
stoic island
For 1.3-1.5k, you'll want like a 3060ti
gritty rover
Oohhh okay!
stoic island
if open box is an option,
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568-master/p/N82E16883360198R
stoic island
You're welcome
stoic island
on a prebuilt like that, you'll probably want to switch out the cooler
gritty rover
And is it okay two add two diff type of ram or no? I already have some ram brought but since the pc is coming with ram I was thinking I could add the one I brought too
gritty rover
on a prebuilt like that, you'll probably want to switch out the cooler
Ohhh okay thanks for the heads up!
stoic island
And is it okay two add two diff type of ram or no? I already have some ram broug...
mixing memory depends
mossy venture
on a prebuilt like that, you'll probably want to switch out the cooler
Does it have fans at the front?
stoic island
It should
mossy venture
Ah kk
stoic island
But memory will run at the speed & latency of the slowest stick in most cases
mossy venture
It's def a mesh panel tho right?
gritty rover
mixing memory depends
Ooo okay I see
stoic island
but for 1275$ 3060ti prebuilt, it could be overlooked
mossy venture
Yeah true
gritty rover
Yeah I’ll invest in a better case
stoic island
and it does look like there's at least more side intake than h510
mossy venture
As long as model on the 3060 ti is decent and the heatsink is changed it shouldn't be an issue ig
Wouldn't be ideal but it could be worse
stoic island
Yea it'll be decent
gritty rover
Mhm
mossy venture
Oh also tanime
stoic island
Changing case is close enough to a building experience anyways
gritty rover
Yes?
mossy venture
If you change case get some artic p12s
mossy venture
Good fans for cheap
stoic island
If you change case get some artic p12s
Don't need more fans if the case you get already have enough though
but if the case does need more fans, p12.
mossy venture
Yeah p400a digital has fans, right?
stoic island
p400a digital comes with 3 front fans
gritty rover
:oooo
mossy venture
All intake?
stoic island
but stuff like p300a only comes with 1 rear fan iirc, in that case you'll want a few more fans
mossy venture
I'd assume so
stoic island
All intake?
ye, works just fine stock without adding fans
mossy venture
Mm
I still need to redo my fans
But my case is odd
Coolermaster n400
Hard drive bay blocks the front two fans, and I'd have to undo most of the cable managing to move them
My cooling is good
Would just be for the hell of it
45c on gpu while mining lol
gritty rover
The ram in the pc is a bit lower than the ram I brought
Ram in pc is 3000
Ram I brought is 3200
Is that okay?
mossy venture
Corsair ram is bad
stoic island
3000 3200 close enough, you'll prob be running it at 3000
gritty rover
Oohh okay :<
I’ll see if I can try to return it
It’s my first pc and I wouldn’t notice much of a difference n stuff
stoic island
3000/3200 really doesn't make much of a difference if any
gritty rover
Aight sweet
I might keep it
The pc specs don’t specify what brand of ram is in the pc
mossy venture
Aight sweet
Ram kits won't always work together
It depends who made the ram in the ore built
Because the manufacturer of the ram might have used a different die
Different dies are made by different manufacturers
gritty rover
It doesn’t say who made the ram in the prebuilt :<
mossy venture
I mixed two ram kits that had different dies
gritty rover
It’s an Abs pre built
mossy venture
I corrupted my windows
gritty rover
Yikes forever
mossy venture
And had to wipe everything on both of my drives
gritty rover
I’ll ask a question about what type of ram in it
mossy venture
I'd return it and buy a different kit to match the one in the build when you get it
How much did the corsair ram cost anyways?
stoic island
I’ll ask a question about what type of ram in it
typically they use whatever they had on hand, therefore the same prebuilt could have different kits of memory
applies to basically all prebuilts
gritty rover
How much did the corsair ram cost anyways?
$60-$70
I looked at some reviews and buyers said the ram was from a manufacturer they never heard of
It’s Oloy ram
In one of the
Reviews
gritty rover
Mhm
mossy venture
From what I can tell only top tier corsair ram used micron dies, but I'll double check
gritty rover
mossy venture
Yeah thats samsung dies
gritty rover
:ooo
mossy venture
It won't work together
still roostBOT
Tanime#8105 has been warned
gritty rover
😭 OH
mossy venture
Np
fossil cedar
Yeah thats samsung dies
Corsair use every bargain bin chip they can, samsung c die, the bad hynix dies, it depends on the actual kit because they mix match a lot
median ingot
5950x on a laptop with 3070 rtx.. what u think and a 750watt
also 4k uhd
*excited..
fossil cedar
Just take into account that makes it more expensive :p
gritty rover
True
It’s not like I can rlly pay $1.2k all in one go either 
my debit card doesn’t even go over $1k limit I think
short crest
Hello everyone! Im in the market of building a new gaming rig and was wondering if anyone is super savvy with custom builds if they wouldnt mind dming me so i can get some feedback on a build. I cant post pics or i would post here. Thanks!
fossil cedar
Hello everyone! Im in the market of building a new gaming rig and was wondering ...
So are you looking for a list of parts or?
short crest
I have a list put together was wondering of some could look it over @fossil cedar
fossil cedar
I have a list put together was wondering of some could look it over <@!191276897...
You can send pc part picker links, I'd put what you want into that then send us the link i the yellow box
zealous edge
<:crying:798659316852719616> my debit card doesn’t even go over $1k limit I thin...
Use a credit card.
zealous edge
Oh makes sense
gritty rover
I’m still a teen and my mom regulates my accounts 😔
The card I have makes it so I can’t make big purchases n stuff bc I’m suppose to use credit card for emergencies
zealous edge
Raise the credit limit to 1.5k
gritty rover
I can’t
She has the limiters on there
And like
It’s her money
I can’t work yet since I have to figure out some medical stuff before I do work
zealous edge
Your using you debit card more then credit?
gritty rover
I just got a debit card…
zealous edge
Oh.
zealous edge
My limit on my credit card is $300
.
gritty rover
I can’t have my own yet
Mhm, I’ll asking in
Maybe next year or so, when I’m sure I’ll be able to have a job
zealous edge
Nice
dire perch
which amplify option is best? should i keep stereo or change it to something else
severe hull
Do we talk Mouses in here ? Are wired better. Recommendation for a gaming mouse ?
little osprey
ps/2 intellimouse explorer
autumn wolf
Do we talk Mouses in here ? Are wired better. Recommendation for a gaming mouse ...
#peripherals-and-displays would be a better channel to talk about mice but wired is better for latency but overall latency between wired and bluetooth have gotten a lot better and closer.
for mice recommendations, that depends on what youd prefer like do you want a big mouse, heavy mouse, lightweight, etc.
razer orochi v2, logitech g502, razer viper ultimate (if on sale), just about any zowie mouse, endgame xm1r
lot of good mice out there for gaming
severe hull
I'm new to discord so there are other rooms but still part of new egg ? THats awesome thank you for teaching me that and mice recommendation!
little osprey
anyone know if bluetooth can cause lag on wifi?
true lake
Anyone have any good recommendations for somewhat cheaper ll120 alternatives, I was looking at antec prizm fans but it doesn't seem they have white fans
warm brook
You guys got any cool ideas for a unique build appearance wise?
worn wave
Custom loop, do alot of custom modding, some weird high end custom case
stoic island
Anyone have any good recommendations for somewhat cheaper ll120 alternatives, I ...
Gelid Stella prob
warm brook
anyone know if bluetooth can cause lag on wifi?
If you have a lot bluetooth connections then maybe if they try to use the same frequency
zealous edge
which amplify option is best? should i keep stereo or change it to something els...
Keep it at stereo
Amplify level is up to you, pesonal preference.
south cliff
My friend is giving me his 1660 or super or ti idk wich one it is but he said its broken and asked me to try and fix it and he gave it to one of my other friends and he tried it ut and it didnt work in his pc either
and he said there is like purple pixels
but i will update tomorrow since he is giving it to me tomorrow
little osprey
Free graphic card let’s go
south cliff
yessir
but it might be broken
im seeing if i can fix it
but he said i could have it if i cant since he is getting a laptop
and if i can fix it im giving my gpu to my friend that has a like a 11 year old gpu
little osprey
What laptop is he gettting
wind silo
hey i've got 2 PS3 consoles rn that are not working rn. one turns on but recently after a file systems check had it's fan speed turned way up automaticaly andafter that i noticed the main menue is or was much slower then normal, have not tried a game sence then.
and the second PS3 Super slim(a white version) i ordered off ebay originaly for parts but it's amazingly new looking inside yet it turns off seconds after turning on. i've swaped power surply units yet still has this isue. if anyone has any ideas on what my problem for ither of my ps3 consols could be please let me now. they are both the super slim model PS3 if that helps
novel python
Is there any way to cleanly deal with an unused pigtail of the gpu pcie cable?
desert gulch
Is there any way to cleanly deal with an unused pigtail of the gpu pcie cable?
Zip ties can be nice
Or twist ties
earnest olive
My friend is giving me his 1660 or super or ti idk wich one it is but he said it...
artifacts are almost never fixable
you may be able to extend the life by underclocking the memory
desert gulch
You think it's a vram issue?
desert gulch
Fun
earnest olive
unless you have a BGA rework station and can actually be bothered to solder new vram maybe
desert gulch
I bet a 1660s/ti "for parts" still prolly sells for 200 on eBay kek
earnest olive
but if you don't know that artifacts are a vram issue you probably don't do enough professional gpu repair to have a BGA rework station
median ingot
@earnest olive whats withe the frown face after your name?
mossy venture
and he said there is like purple pixels
Sounds like a vram issue maybe, could try underclocking
fossil cedar
<@!122901618369757184> whats withe the frown face after your name?
All techies have the blue screen of death symbol after their name 
strong raft
Suggestion: only use debit cards for getting cash from bank. Credit/reward cards have various perks, the least of which is probably 1+ % back on all purchases. 👍
mossy venture
I use my debit card for purchases because my only credit card is on my parents account and I don't feel like keeping track of every single purchase to pay them back at the end of each billing cycle
Also i don't really buy much
Not worried about 1% back on the maybe 10$ I spend a week
strong raft
Yep different use case. I lose a card, rather it just be 1 of 2 credit cards I have. 1% is small, but also 2% for groceries and 3% for fuel. It adds up. I started out w/ only a debit card also
mossy venture
I dont have a car yet, I'll have my full license soon but the car market is so bad still
Looking for something around 5-8k that works and doesn't guzzle fuel
Other than that idrc, but its the same thing as the gpu shortage
frank stirrup
Im not gonna get a license because me scared of driving
mossy venture
I'm scared of driving but like
I need to get to and frommwork
Also wouldn't mind not freezing my but off waiting for my bus in the morning
AHHHH
Ever get those really bad cramps when you accidentally flex a muscle
Like on the bottom of your thigh
Because holy hell that hurt
runic flare
How much fn fps would this run? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363563308328?chn=ps&_ul=AU&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
runic flare
Those are not answers
rugged sparrow
frank stirrup
Those are not answers
ask an answerable question
twin sedge
How much fn fps would this run? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363563308328?chn=ps&...
It depends on the settings
desert gulch
It depends on the settings
He said the game
twin sedge
Where?
desert gulch
Fn
twin sedge
Fortnite?
desert gulch
Yeah
desert gulch
Yeah with perf mode you'll be looking at a hella ton of frames
vital rover
does anyone use and or have any recommendations for a gpu sag stand?
fossil cedar
Just choose one thats cheapish
raw crane
@fossil cedar MY MOTHERBOARD AND CPU CAME IN!!
OK WAIT
does all the memory and files get deleted if I switch the motherboard?
stray pine
No
raw crane
Because like I’m keeping the same ssd
stray pine
You will just update all your new drivers for the new board. All your previous files and windows should be the same
fossil cedar
<@!191276897227898880> MY MOTHERBOARD AND CPU CAME IN!!
Nice, enjoy
raw crane
You will just update all your new drivers for the new board. All your previous f...
Ok!!
Thank you !!
So wait do I get windows 11 now?
@fossil cedar
fossil cedar
So wait do I get windows 11 now?
If you're going 12th gen 12600k or better yes, otherwise stick to 10 imo
raw crane
Yeah the i7 12700k
fossil cedar
Yeah you wanna go win 11 then
raw crane
Ok, I have to pay for another windows :(
fossil cedar
Np
bleak hound
i tried installing 7 on my 10700k, nightmare
why would you do that?
little osprey
because windows 7 is the best
bleak hound
because windows 7 is the best
10>everything
frank stirrup
because windows 7 is the best
mossy venture
atleast we can all agree that windows 8 is the best OS ever
zealous edge
atleast we can all agree that windows 8 is the best OS ever
Vista is the best.
Fr tho.
zealous edge
atleast we can all agree that windows 8 is the best OS ever
8 was the worst btw.
Even worse then 7.
simple olive
Then went to 10
Same tbh
gritty rover
Aye
vagrant olive
amazon didnt even bother to put my $200 motherboard in a cardboard box 😐
wind silo
How much fn fps would this run? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363563308328?chn=ps&...
idk probly a alot
i know their's sites that help with that kinda thing were u type in a pxs characteristics and it tells u how it runs but idk any rn
fossil cedar
amazon didnt even bother to put my $200 motherboard in a cardboard box 😐
Huh? How could they ship the motherboard without a motherboard box, did they send it in just the bag?
vagrant olive
Huh? How could they ship the motherboard without a motherboard box, did they sen...
cardboard box
its in the normal package but they just left it out at my door in the open too
stoic island
?
stoic island
I'm just confused what the problem was
stoic island
all front panel connector layouts are the same right
Most of them, just make sure you're plugging it into the right headers
vagrant olive
aight
visual tundra
Hello i need help with a m,ouse issue
i have a hyper x haste mouse great mouse i very much like it but it started having these problems
my computer does this noise like when you connect something r disconnect
and it stops working for a few sseconds does anyone know why this kught be ????
flint sapphire
vagrant olive
was cleaning paste off the cpu and noticed a tiny bit got on one of the pins… whats the best course of action to remove it?
my thought was a sewing needle if its thin enough
earnest olive
and it stops working for a few sseconds does anyone know why this kught be ????
do you have a ryzen cpu?
might be the classic ryzen usb dropout issues
visual tundra
yes i have a ryzen cppu
earnest olive
which one and which mobo?
visual tundra
do you have a ryzen cpu?
B450 mother board amd ryzen 5 3600
earnest olive
have you ever done a bios update?
earnest olive
well it's potentially the fix for your issue so
what exact model board do you have
raw crane
@fossil cedar
LOOK
but my motherboard has built in wifi yet it’s show no wifi is connected?
Do I have to download a driver
earnest olive
...no
by model i mean the model
did you buy a prebuilt?
if so then get a prebuilt model number
raw crane
How do I connect the wifi <\3
It’s built in wifi it just shows up that I don’t have wifi
stoic island
How do I connect the wifi <\3
Did you screw in the antenna
raw crane
Yup
earnest olive
check device manager to see if it's detecting the wireless device at all
stoic island
Drivers then
raw crane
Ok
earnest olive
i don't have a wifi adapter but you should see one show up under here
might be not detected or has an error
if it has an error, it's probably driver related
raw crane
That’s in control panel?
earnest olive
from android you can use usb tethering to act as a wired internet device to a desktop
not sure about iphone
no, search "device manager" in windows settings
visual tundra
if so then get a prebuilt model number
yeah sadly i did get a prebuilt
earnest olive
but yeah either use your phone to hook up the pc to the internet temporarily and download the driver
visual tundra
if so then get a prebuilt model number
how do i do this
raw crane
?
earnest olive
or if you have another computer on hand download a driver on the other computer and use a usb device
this might be it
earnest olive
what motherboard do you have?
raw crane
Msi Z690
earnest olive
which one
earnest olive
how do i do this
umm... check what you bought?
raw crane
raw crane
Mhm
visual tundra
umm... check what you bought?
i bought a vrla tech legacy build
raw crane
Do I need to download drivers ?
earnest olive
let me check what wifi chip is integrated
earnest olive
Do I need to download drivers ?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/windows-10-and-windows-11-wi-fi-drivers-for-intel-wireless-adapters.html grab the second driver from this link
earnest olive
i bought a vrla tech legacy build
i can't help you without more specific information
restart your pc and keep pressing DEL while it's restarting to get into the BIOS
the motherboard name should be displayed there
visual tundra
B450-hdv
earnest olive
sorry, still not specific enough
need a revision number
these are both called b450m-hdv
as you can see, they are not the same board
visual tundra
this one
earnest olive
ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0?
flint void
ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0?
I have that same one
visual tundra
b450m hdv R.4 p4.10
visual tundra
oh ok
visual tundra
dang it
earnest olive
download the latest bios from the first link and follow the guide on the second link
once that's done, you will need to re-enable XMP as a bios update will revert bios settings to default
then you can use your system and see if the dropouts still occur
visual tundra
ok
earnest olive
good luck
visual tundra
so i download 4.80
earnest olive
yes
visual tundra
global Right i imagine thats what i click
earnest olive
if you lived in china you would probably not be on discord
considering discord is blocked in china
earnest olive
yes
stoic island
When did China ban discord?
earnest olive
the last time i went there was 2019 and i could not access it
raw crane
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/windows-10-and-windows-11...
Thank you so much
I appreciate you g
stoic island
Weird
earnest olive
before that, i cannot say
visual tundra
ok
earnest olive
Thank you so much
wifi is fixed then?
raw crane
I’ll connect Ethernet so I can do it from my pc
earnest olive
oh
raw crane
Nah I’m thanking you for helping me brodie
earnest olive
i was recently troubleshooting a prebuilt with issues with the built in wifi
it was the strangest thing
OEM cyberpower prebuilt
built in wifi worked fine when i was testing it before buying
raw crane
I always freak out hella when something doesn’t work, you just giving me some options will calm@my mind
earnest olive
got home and immediately did a fresh windows install
built in wifi stopped working with errors in device manager
driver install didn't fix
visual tundra
ASRock do NOT recommend updating this BIOS if you are going to use Pinnacle, Raven or Summit Ridge CPU on your system.
*Before updating this BIOS, please also read the description in previous BIOS version.
earnest olive
the fix ended up being a bios update that i had to look for on community forums since it was an OEM motherboard
earnest olive
I always freak out hella when something doesn’t work, you just giving me some op...
i see, makes sense
visual tundra
what is raven or pinnacle
earnest olive
you're welcome then
earnest olive
ASRock do NOT recommend updating this BIOS if you are going to use Pinnacle, Rav...
ignore this, you have a Matisse CPU
earnest olive
manufacturers had to drop support for some older CPUs to include support for ryzen 5000 on the older boards
because there wasn't enough space in the bios chip
visual tundra
with the results i trust this will work
earnest olive
hopefully
it also could just be a problem with the mouse
but ryzen usb dropout issues were pretty widespread
so either one could be the problem
if this works it's a nicer solution than buying a new mouse
earnest olive
did you extract the zip file?
zealous edge
how do i extract zip file
Go back into windows.
And extract the contents out of the file
earnest olive
yeah try using a different device then
raw crane
Ok
earnest olive
it did say your ethernet controller was also unrecognized on device manager
earnest olive
good luck
raw crane
earnest olive
once you have internet try a manual windows update and it should download plug and play drivers to resolve the other issues
raw crane
Yeah for some reason it downloaded windows 10… not windows 11
Even though I booted it with a windows 11 drive
earnest olive
weird
haven't had issues with installing 10 and 11 on different systems with the same drive
visual tundra
And extract the contents out of the file
do i click extract alllk ?
Extract all ????
visual tundra
B450 m hdv r.4 p4.10
mossy venture
Ah
mossy venture
Woulda been coincidental if we had the same one lol
zealous edge
do i click extract alllk ?
Yes.
Extract all.
All the files should no longer be in a ZIP file.
zealous edge
i does not pop up in my instant flash
Show me you're folder please.
visual tundra
ok so in the steps it says
Save the BIOS files on a FAT32 formatted USB disk.
do i need a usb drive
?
zealous edge
How many GB is you're USD drive?
FAT32 formatting requires a minimum of 32 GB of storage, hence the name FAT32.
visual tundra
my usb drive or ssd
visual tundra
i dont have one i didnt know i needed one
zealous edge
Then what were you using before?
When you said you never extracted any files?
the BIOS won't read the folder if it's just on your PC.
visual tundra
oh no wonder
zealous edge
That's why it isn't showing up when you try to flash the BIOS.
visual tundra
dang im pretty dumb '
zealous edge
You need an external storage device, a USB.
visual tundra
i need a drive with 32 gb
desert gulch
FAT32 formatting requires a minimum of 32 GB of storage, hence the name FAT32.
Meh not really but sure
visual tundra
i think i have on somewhere in my room let me find it
desert gulch
There's third party stuff that will let you fat32 on a 2gb and up drive
zealous edge
Meh not really but sure
You can do it lower, but honestly if someone is learning for the first time, just say 32GB.
zealous edge
There's third party stuff that will let you fat32 on a 2gb and up drive
There is yes.
But honestly if someone really doesn't have a 32GB drive, then sure go to third party, but if they are doing it for the first time(flashing BIOS), and also trying to format a drive using a third party software that they probably never heard of, it's going to be more complicated then it really needs to be in that situation.
visual tundra
idk where its at so
zealous edge
Do you have any USB drives?
visual tundra
i think i have to buy another one
i had one infront of my tv but its not there anymore
zealous edge
Plus it's easier doing the formatting within windows anyways.
little osprey
do you have a phone with an OTG cable?
zealous edge
do you have a phone with an OTG cable?
I would honestly only recommend doing that if it's absolutely not possible to get a USB drive.
It's riskier using a phone for a BIOS flash.
short crest
ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI w/ DDR5-4800, 7.1 Audio, 5x M.2, 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 6, BT, USB 3.2 Type-C. I have a question about this mobo as im not the most tech savvy when it comes to this. If i had ddr5 ram @ 5600 mhz would this mobo be able to use that ram to its full potential?
hidden vault
ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI w/ DDR5-4800, 7.1 Audio, 5x M.2, 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 6,...
Yes, as long as your cpu can run that
restive halo
Hey guys if you have a 5600xt how do you hook up 4 monitors?
restive halo
unless your gpu has that many outputs
1 HDMI 3 DISPLAY
jagged ember
if you have 4 monitors with the right connections you could
earnest olive
shoutout to the rx 6500 xt only supporting a maximum of 2 display outputs
even then neither of those options are enough
like i said, you will not be able to cool a 5950x or 12900K in such small cases
please abandon the idea
you are the wasting the time of people trying to help you
i will not say it again
240mm is the bare minimum for what you are trying to do
any case that cannot accommodate at least a 240mm radiator is not worth looking at
you are doing a load far heavier than gaming on top of the line cpus
strong raft
Pato if you or someone would like to give quick input on a build, trying to help someone on another server. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZrybh
earnest olive
posting this much corsair in #building-and-recc-chat is brave
frank stirrup
Also go lian li galahad for white aio
tight sorrel
Also also, get the airflow version of that case. 4000X is restricted by solid glass front
novel python
Why the Corsair bashing? I thought they were decent?
obsidian wigeon
4000x isn't too bad
tight sorrel
Why the Corsair bashing? I thought they were decent?
Model > Brand. Corsair make some good components, some bad components. Their PSUs and newer cases are quite good, but their RAM and AIOs are MEH
tight sorrel
What Foxy said
novel python
Like I said, trying to "help" someone. <:kekw:741678350791081994> <a:Awkward:649...
“For a friend”
obsidian wigeon
corsair ram is badly priced, their cases most of the times are meh
strong raft
the white is badly priced. 3600c18 when black 3600c16 is same price almost. eh, I linked this and some G.skill, but spend enough time on it. 
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236788
fossil cedar
the white is badly priced. 3600c18 when black 3600c16 is same price almost. eh, ...
16 20 20 40 
strong raft
idc anyways. Seems like they love white and corsair so I'm done.
fossil cedar
Some people are beyond saving
strong raft
plus replies like this.
strong raft
yep, just too bad the 1st reply is a smart-ass statement like that. Some servers are like that.
bleak hound
Why the Corsair bashing? I thought they were decent?
I bought a expensive corsair mouse and it was pretty bad the buttons got stuck a lot of the time it's logitech counterpart is much better Corsair qc not the best that's all
topaz kestrel
Why the Corsair bashing? I thought they were decent?
Usually expensive ewaste but some of there stuff is nice
gritty rover
I’m glad I got that cosair ram at a discount then, the store I got it from said it’s past the return date
I got it at like
$60-$70 somethin
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/EOkSerj.png @narrow rose is this the pc
mossy venture
I’m glad I got that cosair ram at a discount then, the store I got it from said ...
id try to sell it on ebay for 60$
its really not good
gritty rover
There’s no telling if it’d sell or not since it’s not good
mossy venture
cant hurt to try
gritty rover
I don’t even have the stuff to package and ship it off 😔
Then I’d have to buy more ram
mossy venture
well you cant use it with the pc you want
gritty rover
Okay
narrow rose
https://i.imgur.com/EOkSerj.png <@!152538496379125762> is this the pc
I'm not sure I posted it for someone who didnt have permission to post pics yet I said his name above it
looks like it though
ocean umbra
There’s no telling if it’d sell or not since it’s not good
What type
gritty rover
Corsair ram
2x8
16gbs
It’s alright
I’m just gonna upgrade to better ram later
short crest
Whats the highest gb/mhz ram the i9 12900k can utilize?
mossy venture
Whats the highest gb/mhz ram the i9 12900k can utilize?
pretty much anything, ddr4>ddr5 currently
mossy venture
if you dont want to spend a lot, 32gb 3600c16 would be good
if you do stuff other than gaming, that uses a lot of ram, 64 would be good
if yo feel like goiing premium for better perf, 4400mhz ram would be fine even
short crest
The pc shop im using only has 32g (2x16) ddr5 5600mhz
Just wanted to make sure im not capping anything
mossy venture
how much does it cost
analog pulsar
I'm not sure I posted it for someone who didnt have permission to post pics yet ...
Oh oops
short crest
@mossy venture $520 Canadian
frank stirrup
3200 mhz last I checked
what
12900k can do ddr5
that doesnt even go as low as 3200
gritty rover
what
The person asked me about my ram I thought
I was busy and couldn’t read the question right, at school currently
fossil cedar
Whats the highest gb/mhz ram the i9 12900k can utilize?
Ddr4 dual rank 4000mhz cl12 if you're willing to do some tuning and get some b die ram, although it can do way higher ddr5 speeds, but they can't beat the latencies of ddr4 yet
You're welcome
short crest
@fossil cedar i dont think the mobo im getting supports ddr4. ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI w/ DDR5-4800, 7.1 Audio, 5x M.2, 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 6, BT, USB 3.2 Type-C
potent portal
It does not. Only ddr5.
fossil cedar
I'd opt for a ddr4 board
turbid vector
I think I want to ask this here. I have acquired one of these for my build: https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-maximus-z690-extreme/p/N82E16813119520
When I was reading through the manual, it mentioned something and I'm not sure how to optimize it. The primary M.2 slot shares the PCI Express v5 lane with the Video Card. If I house both the primary M.2 and Video Card, I drop the x16 speed down to x8 for both. Is it worth trying to put the M.2 in a secondary slot (the standard is PCI Express V4), or not?
potent portal
Which gpu? Unless it's a 3090 or something gen 4 x8 is plenty of bandwidth
turbid vector
3080TI, and it would be Gen 5 x8.
Let's see if this works: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ZeroSerenity/saved/#view=4dbv4D
potent portal
The gpu only supports gen 4
topaz kestrel
holy shazam thats expensive
potent portal
There's nothing that supports gen 5 yet
turbid vector
Only thing I'm missing in my house is the PSU, set to arrive today.
So this isn't some "Pie in the sky kit you make for fun", this will be my finished kit.
fossil cedar
@short crest talk here, whats the purpose of your build and whats your budget? are you building yourself or custom prebuilt?
turbid vector
So, running back, until I get a PCIe Gen 5 GPU, the effect is negligible?
short crest
Gaming/occasional streaming. Budget is about 6k canadian and no im not building myself. The pc shop im buying all the parts from is going to put it together for me
potent portal
So, running back, until I get a PCIe Gen 5 GPU, the effect is negligible?
It'll probably run the gpu at x16 and the m.2 at x4, since the new gen intel cpus have 20 lanes. I'm looking at your manual and can't find where it says anything about being limited.
fossil cedar
Gaming/occasional streaming. Budget is about 6k canadian and no im not building ...
what shop is it?
short crest
Memory express. Only place near me that has 3080ti’s in stock
fossil cedar
okay lemme see what i can put together
turbid vector
It'll probably run the gpu at x16 and the m.2 at x4, since the new gen intel cpu...
Page xiii.
Am I reading it wrong?
short crest
Thats just what they picked im not 100% set on having that case
fossil cedar
okay
potent portal
Page xiii.
And there it is. No you're definitely correct, they screwed that one up. Intel gave the cpu 20 lanes for a reason. It's probably worth installing to another slot in your case. The m.2 will have slightly higher latency but that shouldn't affect anything noticeably.
fossil cedar
Thats just what they picked im not 100% set on having that case
whats the use for the pc btw?
short crest
Gaming. Mostly play warzone and other shooters. Stream from time to time
fossil cedar
okay
turbid vector
And there it is. No you're definitely correct, they screwed that one up. Intel g...
I have five total m.2 slots, so it won't be too bad. The question is, should I put it in the DIMM.2 slot or one of the others?
Page 1-12, if you need a reference.
potent portal
Dimm.2 wouldn't be a bad idea if it came with the adapter. It would look pretty cool too.
topaz kestrel
depending on the board he is getting, dimm.2 adapter might be in it
fossil cedar
hey @short crest what store are you using, online isnt showing any 3080 ti's in stock
short crest
I believe north east calgary
topaz kestrel
Dimm.2 wouldn't be a bad idea if it came with the adapter. It would look pretty ...
yeah that board comes with a dimm.2 adapter in the box
potent portal
Yeah, not until your name turns green
turbid vector
Seems I gotta talk more.
Doesn't quite specify how much I gotta chat before I get permission.
Fal if you wanna just drop that in.
potent portal
potent portal
Doesn't quite specify how much I gotta chat before I get permission.
Level 3, which you can check your progress in #ranks-and-levels with /rank
turbid vector
Thanks.
fossil cedar
I believe north east calgary
i would do this, youll need to add in a 3080 ti tho, i dont see one in stock on their list
stoic island
Freezer ii cost looking really high there
Well, price of everything other than Mobo is looking too high there
fossil cedar
Freezer ii cost looking really high there
Canada
stoic island
Thought it was microcenter
fossil cedar
That's fair
stoic island
Makes more sense though
fossil cedar
That's fair
desert gulch
this look good?
Do you already have it?
icy thunder
no
icy thunder
not a fan of intels recent cpus
icy thunder
i have no idea honestly, i just see amd as better performance wise
something stuck in my brain
icy thunder
could you edit that list for me to accommodate for the intel?
fossil cedar
@icy thunder do they already have the gpu?
And do they really need 3tb of ssd space?
fossil cedar
Nice
icy thunder
yeah i scored it for them today]
now they just gotta order everything else
just wanted to check if we should change anything before that
fossil cedar
@icy thunder id do this, personally don't like the look of that mouse - looks low quality I'd probably opt for a razer viper mini white or some other white mouse instead of pink maybe
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWnQzf
icy thunder
is that cooler pre filled?
the problem is that they specifically wanted a pink build
i know pink makes options very limited
fossil cedar
is that cooler pre filled?
Yes all aios are
fossil cedar
the problem is that they specifically wanted a pink build
Yeah, that case looked pretty low quality that's why white would be a better option really, would have given white aio too but not many have the 12th gen mounting yet
stoic island
<@131106658242789376> id do this, personally don't like the look of that mouse -...
Pato what's with the Mobo choice
fossil cedar
Pato what's with the Mobo choice
White build
stoic island
Wack
fossil cedar
Yeah but it is what it is
stoic island
It doesn't have flashback and doesn't have debug LEDs which is sad
icy thunder
they want looks as well sadly
idk what i would do without debug leds
ive had so many problems with my ram
its 4400 and its running 3400
stoic island
Maybe go z690 steel legend
fossil cedar
Is steel legend okay tho? How's the vrms i can't recall?
desert gulch
Or could go b660 Asus prime and 12400(f)
icy thunder
idk how you guys can all remember this stuff
icy thunder
so what motherboard should i do
stoic island
Worse VRMs than the Z690-a it seems, but that also applies to z690-p iirc
The MSI z690-a is just too good atm ig
icy thunder
so thats what we should go with?
desert gulch
Its not white tho
stoic island
If you're fine with motherboard being black
icy thunder
lemme see
desert gulch
Honestly motherboard being black in a white build isn't super noticeable
fossil cedar
I'd personally just go prime p, it's fine -unless black is okay
desert gulch
Cause CPU cooler, GPU, etc
icy thunder
black motherboard okay
desert gulch
Yeah then z690 pro a
fossil cedar
desert gulch
Insanely good for price
icy thunder
they are still asking for pink case
desert gulch
Hmm
stoic island
Apevia made some random pink cases
stoic island
Can't really reccomend them, they're kinda just random cases that happen to be pink
icy thunder
someone recommended this one before
stoic island
As in, we know little info other than it's pink
fossil cedar
Omg there's a vetroo one that looks suspiciously like a 3 fan h510 flow
stoic island
Lol
stoic island
Nah looks better, its got 3 front fans
fossil cedar
Yeah but it looks very similar in style
icy thunder
so uhm, would any of those work?
stoic island
It'll probably work
fossil cedar
Probably, just check radiator compatibility
strong raft
Which ifixit kit is that?
hollow anchor
Im putting an r9 390 in my ryzen 5 5600x pc until I get a 3060ti
stoic island
Nothing wrong with that