building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

the memory controller might not like 32 gigs on 3600

[dusk bough]

3200mhz is 16 gb can i get it any bigger or is 16 the max it goes

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

it could take 32

[dusk bough]

ok

[summer tusk]

Been working on a build list lately. Any critiques? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3qWYg

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just that 3600 has less chance to work

3200 is gonna do better

[dusk bough]

ok

ill do 3200

thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

so you already bought the cooler and fans?

[summer tusk]

I have them in the build list just for reference. I don’t plan on buying them unless I need to

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

well i would suggest not gettin the cooler

lemme make some fixes for ya

[summer tusk]

Yeah. That was the plan

And thanks

[earnest olive]

comet lake IMC is very very strong

more likely just needs a manual vccsa/vccio setting

[obsidian wigeon]

i guess

[earnest olive]

a lot of people run 32gb >=4500 on comet lake

[obsidian wigeon]

but like it's just i3 tho

[earnest olive]

still the same IMC

[obsidian wigeon]

hm okie then

[earnest olive]

3600c18 shouldn't be a problem at all

maybe try manual 1.15 vccsa/vccio

[dusk bough]

what is vccsa/vccio setting?

[earnest olive]

they're voltages for the memory controller, setting them manually can make your RAM more stable

many motherboards set them way too high on auto like 1.3 when only 1.15 is needed

[rocky flame]

Does anyone know why I can’t post

[obsidian wigeon]

not enough level yet

gotta chat more

[rocky flame]

Oh ok cool

[strong raft]

I would support certain ranks needing a minimum amount of time along w/ number of messages.

[hidden vault]

@celest horizon

beautiful graphics card

your cpu may be bottlenecking it though

[celest horizon]

It'll be more beautiful after I'm done with it

Might epower, will see

[hidden vault]

ln2 it

oc its vram to 16k

[young sierra]

The i3 limits OCing on DDR4 to 2666

[desert gulch]

No

That's official supported

You can go higher, Intel just won't officially support it

Also that's assuming you're not on a locked chipset

[stoic island]

Limits are only on b/h boards

[desert gulch]

Except b560/h570

[young sierra]

Gotcha. My h410 limits me.

[desert gulch]

You can ram oc on those

[stoic island]

yea anything before b560 on b/h limits ram freq

[young sierra]

Well my z690 is on the way. I just mailed my z590 back this morning.

[desert gulch]

Going 12600k or 12700k?

[young sierra]

All I have is my backup h410 with an i3 right now.

12600K

[desert gulch]

Nice

[young sierra]

Yeah, it has been a Gonzo day.

I sent back my i5-11600K, my z590, and my 2x32 (3200) 16 18 18 38 RAM on a whim with help from a few find folks here this morning

I left my cooler backplate on the z590, but Newegg promised to send it back to me.

[desert gulch]

Yeah good choice

It'll be worth having a 12600k

Hella quick cpu

[young sierra]

Totally good choice. i5-12600K, z690, and now 2x16 (3600) 16 19 19 39, for $19.54 more even after shipping everything back.

[desert gulch]

Yeah that'll be epic

You're getting sooooo much more performance for those 20 bucks

[stoic island]

12600k op

[young sierra]

Just kicking myself for forgetting the backplate. I got pulled into a work meeting just as I got the motherboard out, so when I came back I just put it in the shipping box.

[desert gulch]

You're lucky tbh

Someone here had to rma a motherboard

And left a 1tb m.2 in it

[young sierra]

I got my m.2s out of it.

[desert gulch]

It was way gone before they realized

Never to be seen again

[young sierra]

Thats brutal.

[desert gulch]

It was a mp34 1tb

Big sad

Iirc it was yams that did it

[stoic island]

rip mp34

[young sierra]

I suppose now I just wont have anything left to buy.

[celest horizon]

My buddy accidentally rma'd his evga board to msi and msi board to evga

Could be worse

[young sierra]

Except I'll be on integrated Intel graphics until...

[desert gulch]

What'd they do after that?

[celest horizon]

Mailed it back I think

[desert gulch]

Lol nice

Why was he rma two boards at same time anyways?

[strong raft]

all this talk with 1cculus is having be 2nd guess going 11gen. Dang you all .(I mean dang my impulse on the discounted mobo 1st) I'd need tips on selling the mobo that was from Ebay, and no idea what cooler for a 12gen. (Tbh never returned items through the mail also )

[desert gulch]

He a custom PC builder?

[celest horizon]

hwbot

[desert gulch]

Aight

[young sierra]

put it back on Ebay? 🤷‍♂️

[strong raft]

Probably can break even huh. It was only $175 total. No idea what seller fees are like. I'll look into r/hws or something 1st.

[young sierra]

I've had success with Craigslist.

Ebay seller fees for tech are 12.5% or so

[strong raft]

Cool. Ebay could be another option if it wasn't sold somewhere else within a week or 2. Oh nice, Amazon returns are easier than I thought. Just gotta wait a day or 2 for cpu/hsf to arrive.

[strong raft]

Which cooler are you gonna use? I'd like to use the FS140 or similar but idk about compatibility. Actually can I get your full-ish build on pcpart?

[thin oar]

I did that

I think I did it wrong tho

I did it again and it didn’t work

[little osprey]

Help! I bumped this installing my graphics card and now my computer won't turn on. I'm pretty sure it's the cord to the power button. Which slot does it go into?

[frank stirrup]

those 2 are the pins for power button, but the thing ur holding looks like a fan coonector not the power switch connctor

[tight sorrel]

rawr is correct, the thing youre holding is a fan connector

[frank stirrup]

you want these guys

[little osprey]

Then I must have some other issue. Thanks

[frank stirrup]

nah without the button connected there, pressing the button wont do anything

try bridging the 2 pins i showed with a screw driver

[little osprey]

That's the only one that was unplugged. The power button connector was in

[frank stirrup]

it obviously isnt since i can see nothing where ur supposed to plug it in

literally showed you the completely empty pins where the power button goes

how is it plugged in?

[little osprey]

Oh, my wife accidentally unplugged that trying to help me. It was in

All those in that photo you sent were in

[frank stirrup]

and none of them are in the pic you sent

...

[little osprey]

They were before my problems started. Could be one was loose but I don't think that was the issue

Imma finish this pizza and then jump back into trying to get this done

[frank stirrup]

get your front panel headers done

[little osprey]

I got a 3080. I can't wait to just max my graphics instead of trying to pick and choose what to turn down to not lag!

[tight sorrel]

@little osprey ,you not gonna be playing anything if you dont do this part first

[little osprey]

I'm a computer idiot. I did, however, do a lot of research and built this computer from scratch. It's been working great, but I finally got a good graphics card. When I put it in my computer wouldn't turn on. I thought I might have bumped the cord to the power button, which I had problems with getting right when I first built this, but from what you guys are saying I think it was in right all along and I have some other issue

I'm killing this pizza my wife made before I keep working though

[frank stirrup]

lets do 1 issue at a time

[little osprey]

Step 1: pizza

I just worked a 10 hour shift, I'm hungry!

Actually more than 10

[little osprey]

Ok so

Forgive the dust, I can't find my canned air

Does it matter which is plugged in where?

[tight sorrel]

yes! LOL

get your motherboard manual

[little osprey]

Umm

I found the problem

When I plug in my graphics card it doesn't work

Wtf

[frank stirrup]

make sure gpu is properly in there

dont use 1 power cable for all ports of the gpu

make sure display cable is connected to back of gpu

make sure front panel headers are proper

[tight sorrel]

what power supply do you have?

[frank stirrup]

bro

that pcie slot is so dusty

get ur canned air

and clean it out

[little osprey]

I get that it's dusty. I'm gonna look for my air and buy some tomorrow if I can't find it. Still, it worked just fine before

[frank stirrup]

try another pcie port

reset cmos

[frank stirrup]

this first

[little osprey]

What's cmos?

[tight sorrel]

what happens when you plug in your old GPU?

[little osprey]

Remember: I'm a computer caveman

[little osprey]

I could try it but the old worked fine

[frank stirrup]

unplug ur psu from the wall and remove the circular silver battery from ur motherboard for 5 mins

[little osprey]

The old one is gonna be hard to plug in because it was a different cord that I completely took out

[tight sorrel]

do this first then

[little osprey]

I'm just gonna have to take this whole thing apart and piece it together again

Ugh

[tight sorrel]

good idea. and give evrything a clean. do you live in a desert?

😅

[little osprey]

Are these the right cords? The other end in the psu for both are 6+2

[tight sorrel]

yes, thats fine

[little osprey]

That's not the issue because it's when my card is in the mobo that it doesn't turn on, just wanna make sure I'm good there

Ok, thanks

[tight sorrel]

wait.. hold on

[frank stirrup]

clean out the pcie slot

clean the pic of the gpu

[tight sorrel]

there must be a label on the PSU side or on the cables

what does it say?

I dont think those cables are right

[little osprey]

It's when the card is in the motherboard it doesn't work. The card can be in with no psu cords connected and it doesn't work. I take out the card and it turns on

Ok seriously wtf

It turned on

I don't get it. I moved my whole computer to the living room to work on to have more room. I put in the graphics card but don't plug the psu cords to it. Now my computer turns on. I plug the psu cords to it and it doesn't

Makes 0 sense

[fossil cedar]

It works with the power supply in or not?

[little osprey]

It worked fine with my old graphics card. I took out the old, put in the new, it doesn't even turn on. I take out the new card, it turns on. I put in the new card, it doesn't. Even when the psu cords aren't connected it won't turn on when my new gpu is in the motherboard. I take my whole computer to my living room where I have a table and more space. Now it turns on sometimes with the gpu in the motherboard, but not when I connect the psu cords to it. There is no logic in this

Also this came with the gpu. What is it, do I need it, how do I put it in?

There was nothing about it in the booklet for the card

[fossil cedar]

Uhh what power supply and gpu?

Also make sure there's no dust/ whatever in the pcie slot or power connectors

[little osprey]

What about it? My old card used a 6-pin, this new one uses two 8-pins. That much should be fine

[tight sorrel]

thats just a support bracket

[fossil cedar]

Also send a pic of the power cables you are using?

[fossil cedar]

Just some power supplies are not good/not enough wattage for gpus

Okay that looks right

[little osprey]

In the gpu itself the other end for both is 6+2

And this is a 850w psu, should be enough

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 6+2 should be going into the gpu

[little osprey]

I found a can of air with no straw. I used a screwdriver with it and got much of the dust out. I don't think that's the issue though

[tight sorrel]

notice the plastic bridging the pins?

I have questions

[little osprey]

Now when I connect the psu cords to my card it won't turn on

Does this mean this end should be in the psu and my issue is the cords are backwards?

[bleak hound]

That does not matter tho I tried both sides had no difference in performance or wattage usage

[little osprey]

I'll be mad if that's the case but quickly not be if it works

Then idk. I have no idea what's wrong other than my gpu or these cords to the psu are defective

[tight sorrel]

is there a label on the PSU where you plugged them in?

[fossil cedar]

That means it goes into your power supply at that end

[little osprey]

I hope you're not asking me to dig in there >_<

[fossil cedar]

[little osprey]

The 6+2 end should go into the gpu?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[little osprey]

They were plugged into here. Is that the wrong spot? I thought it didn't matter

[tight sorrel]

ok, you have them plugged in the wrong way round. first of all.

second, there should be a cable running from that area to the top left of the motherboard. do you have that cable connected?

[little osprey]

Top left of the motherboard? Idk but everything worked fine BEFORE this graphics card

[tight sorrel]

in the top left of the motherboard you should have an 8 pin socket

[frank stirrup]

yes

[upper rock]

can a 2019 macbook pro support 2 external monitors?

[frank stirrup]

yes

[little osprey]

Trying something. Moment of truth

Success! (I think). Now to take it back to the computer room, plug in my peripherals and use it

Thanks everyone for the help! All I did was reverse the psu cords

[upper rock]

@frank stirrup can i get 2 different brands of 4k monitors and get that working

is it possible

also do i need any docking station or hub?

I am planning to get dell U2720Q

[little osprey]

It's working! Turning it off to put the case covers back on. I promise to get lots of air to clean this thing 😂

[frank stirrup]

yes

[frank stirrup]

yes

[upper rock]

@frank stirrup dell 4k U2720Q already has an inbuilt docking station

do you think that would suffice

or if i would have to get one, could you please tell me which one to buy. ( i dont have any budget )

[frank stirrup]

ull be fine since you have 4 thunderbolt ports

if you dont get a dock tho, ull have only 2 left for stuff other than the monitors

@upper rock

[upper rock]

thanks @frank stirrup

[frank stirrup]

np

[bleak hound]

Build is too dusty and needs some mediocre cable management effort

[errant fiber]

alright

i want to buy an arctic 280 but i'm going to need a fan hub/splitter since all of my fan spots are taken up on my motherboard. i have a fan plugged into AIO pump, another plugged into cpu fan, and 2 more taking the 2 fan slots on my motherboard. so if i were to buy the arctic 280, id need a a hub because i'm also adding 2 more fans (the ones on top of the rad) correct? and id also be filling my case with rgb p12's at some point in the near future too. so what i'm saying is, a hub would be perfect for this scenario right?

and to add onto that, the arctic 280 that i'm buying is controlled by a contnroller for its rgb, so that doesn't mean i plug the fans into the rgb port on the motherboard or what? will i need an rgb hub for later on upgrades since there's only 2 on my motherboard i think and i want to add a bunch of rgb p12's

[frank stirrup]

yes

and yes

[errant fiber]

i'm gonna need an rgb hub and a fan hub?

[frank stirrup]

theres some that can do both iirc

[errant fiber]

i saw an arctic fan hub for 9.99 but i don't know if it's limited to arctic fans

[frank stirrup]

should be fine for all

[bleak hound]

It's a fan hub if the connector fits then it will work with anything

[errant fiber]

can you guys link me one that's good?

works as both

[bleak hound]

I saw one from Deepcool in my local country online story

[frank stirrup]

@errant fiber if ur sure about the arctic p12s u might not need anything btw

they have daisy chain fan and daisy chain rgb

[misty raft]

Building my first PC (budget build) and using the Ryzen 5600g. Last piece I need is a mobo but trying to decide between what budget mobo with integrated wifi to get. Deciding between MSI b450m bazooka max wifi and gigabyte b450 aorus pro wifi. Any thoughts or advice? Anybody successfully run a 450 with the 5600g?

[frank stirrup]

budget for motherboard

and country

[misty raft]

USA $80-$130

[frank stirrup]

put everything ur planning into this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

and send link

the one thats there

leave motherboard out

ill suggest one and make improvements to the general build

@misty raft

[misty raft]

👍🏼 currently building the list

[frank stirrup]

aight cool

[errant fiber]

wym?

[frank stirrup]

you can daisy chain

and not have to buy anything

[merry drift]

I was trying to choose between a 570X and B550, I recommend the B550

[frank stirrup]

what mobo u got

[errant fiber]

is it ok if i buy a fan hub instead

supporting both the rgb ports and fan ports

[tight sorrel]

yes

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/Addressable-Lighting-Magnetic-backplane-Addressble/dp/B08JQFKXYK

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-7-Port-ADDRESSABLE-Splitter-Black-P7PRGB/dp/B087NGPS5N

i liked these 2

[misty raft]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dTtHfP

[tight sorrel]

id go for the CM. never heard of upHere

[frank stirrup]

Total budget?

For the entire pc

@misty raft

[errant fiber]

@frank stirrup can you link me a fan hub that works for both rgb and fan power

[frank stirrup]

@errant fiber

[frank stirrup]

@errant fiber

[errant fiber]

which one would you buy

[frank stirrup]

Id buy the cheaper one tbh

Coolermaster one looks nicer tho

[errant fiber]

so if i buyed one of those, i can connect plenty of fans there?

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[tight sorrel]

CM has magnet for mounting, other one uses double sided tape

magnet >>> tape

[frank stirrup]

Victor hear me out

[tight sorrel]

im listening

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Sheets-Adhesive-Backing-Flexible/dp/B07V5WGK3R/

Boom

[tight sorrel]

oh dang.

[frank stirrup]

Make everything magnetic

[tight sorrel]

just used your ult and I was on c/d

gg wp

[misty raft]

Idk, I’ve been piecing it together as birthday presents and Christmas gifts so unspecified budget.

[frank stirrup]

Count all the money you have and lemme know then

[misty raft]

Lol no

[frank stirrup]

I cant really work with that

[misty raft]

How does total budget affect mobo choice?

Or are you thinking of recommending a totally different build

[frank stirrup]

All i can say is crap cooler an ssd

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

That build you sent is not very nice

[frank stirrup]

LMAO

Thats how we do things around here

[misty raft]

I just threw in the cooler but I actually already have the other parts on the list

[frank stirrup]

Damn

[misty raft]

Yeah I know it’s not very nice. That’s why I just asked for mobo advice, not the entire build. When I say budget, I mean minimal budget haha

[frank stirrup]

Cant return em?

I can throw together a better 500$ build

[misty raft]

Then show me what you’d suggest

[frank stirrup]

Ill do it when i have a lil more free time

In a few hours

[misty raft]

👍🏼

[hollow gulch]

Pretty sure thermalright had a cheaper better one

[frank stirrup]

Link it then

[hollow gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09MQL33X9/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1

[frank stirrup]

I don like it

[errant fiber]

@frank stirrup So buy one of the two hubs you mentioned + the arctic cooler?

do you know the ram clearance for the 280mm

[frank stirrup]

Yee

[frank stirrup]

Wont be an issue

[fossil cedar]

Lf2 has daisy chain fans iirc btw i don't think for the rgb tho

[fossil cedar]

Tbf it's actually a decent cooler for lp but yeah not worth over amd stock

@misty raft can you ball park a budget?

[fossil cedar]

You're getting 4000d right? I plenty of room

[errant fiber]

Yeah i'm using one

[green cradle]

Yall builds look sick

[willow garden]

Tellow

no ?

The round circuit table

Sought on spill, they Vibed

why ?

: )

are they ekorner (norwe

[hollow gulch]

Ok

[willow garden]

Today another say, say say

(Sprint?

[willow garden]

You will need some side = all-launch the wide screen

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vjxkvf
@misty raft

[fossil cedar]

They didn't seem willing to swap out their parts tbh so i just recommend that board or b450 tuf to save like 20$

As they said they had all but board

[frank stirrup]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[fossil cedar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Fair

[frank stirrup]

im not dummy dum pato

usually

for the most part

i have my moents

mometsn

monenst

moments

[fossil cedar]

We all do

[frank stirrup]

yes

i totally wanted to mispell it like 80 times

misspell

ffs

spellings are hard

[fossil cedar]

True

[dusk bough]

hello

i have a question

[willow garden]

Why not try asking ? : )

[vague oracle]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[frank stirrup]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[dusk bough]

i have 2 16 3600 ddr4 ram sticks only one works at a time and im not to surewhy that is i asked in genral and the asked a whole bunch of question that i have no idea how to answer

[frank stirrup]

what cpu

and what ram exactly

[dusk bough]

Intel Core i3 10300

[frank stirrup]

what motherboard

[dusk bough]

that i bought or taht i have installed

[frank stirrup]

wait you have sticks in tthe pc already and ur adding more?

[dusk bough]

yes i wanted a upgrade

so i got some

its a prebuilt pc

[frank stirrup]

ok what motherboard

[dusk bough]

with 8 gb

its a gigabyte

[frank stirrup]

you can check using cpu-z

[dusk bough]

i have the model number

B560 DS3H AC-Y1 (U3E1)

[frank stirrup]

ok cool

now remove the 8gb stick thats in the pc rn

then put the 2 new sticks in slot 2 and 4

1 is closest to the cpu

4 is closest to the edge of the mobo

[willow garden]

Use another cable config

[dusk bough]

ok

[willow garden]

Or you can try suspend the each corners, let it ease, the copber might erase halfway diminies

[frank stirrup]

huh

[frank stirrup]

huh

[hollow gulch]

He's a troll idk

[willow garden]

Not working?

[frank stirrup]

ignore the merrycorsten guy

[willow garden]

: ) DOING SOME CIGARETTES brb

brb ; ? As kmore

[frank stirrup]

its fine if you dont brb

dont force urself to come back

[willow garden]

Cables are intertwined with the surface of all pc cases bought for a high amount of money

But brb

[frank stirrup]

pls dont

thanks

[hollow gulch]

Just call a mod

[dusk bough]

2 and 4 correct

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[dusk bough]

Ok

I've done that

[frank stirrup]

try booting

[dusk bough]

Ok

[willow garden]

Hm.. anyone up for some pizza?

[dusk bough]

What is this pizza you speak of

[willow garden]

Mozarella cheese, ham, bacon

sometin

[dusk bough]

It's on but it's not show the sign in screen

[frank stirrup]

what do you mean?

[willow garden]

The signs of the Lions

always..- like a 2nd

[dusk bough]

The lights are on but it's on showing any thing on the monitor

[willow garden]

not yours. mine too

the screen needs a feeder

[dusk bough]

Can you shush pleae

[willow garden]

Yes ! Yes !

[dusk bough]

It's acting like it wants to boot but it's not

It's hard to explain

Sorry

[frank stirrup]

no display?

like it doesnt display anything?

[dusk bough]

Correct

[willow garden]

rely on the old windows, they always delay the led

[frank stirrup]

Hmmm

ok so what slot was the old stick of ram in?

[willow garden]

?? ask more advanced

[dusk bough]

Uhh I think the first

[frank stirrup]

hmmm aight

[dusk bough]

Try that one ?

[frank stirrup]

now remove the stick in 2nd slot

[dusk bough]

Ok

[willow garden]

The middle tide with the whites one (most white

[frank stirrup]

so slot 4 is the only one with a stick

and try booting

btw

[willow garden]

Vaccum clean the whole cassette

[frank stirrup]

make sure you hear 2 clicks when putting in the stick

[dusk bough]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

it takes a bit more force than ur comfortable with

[dusk bough]

Yeah

[hollow gulch]

Just get an ABS Prebuilt and I will get a few more hands on you for your main 🙌 of this project in the next couple weeks

Yes

No

[willow garden]

??! Try monitoring the whole damn thing

[frank stirrup]

you got it?

[dusk bough]

Yex

[frank stirrup]

make sure both sticks click

and try

[willow garden]

)?

[dusk bough]

Wait so where do I put in the second one

Or am I just having ien stick in the 4 slot

[frank stirrup]

try both

make sure you hear the 2 clicks

[willow garden]

Famous ppl don't do so well in pc welfare do they

[dusk bough]

One on 2 slot

[frank stirrup]

ok now try booting

[dusk bough]

Do I need to have the tempers glass on when I boot

[frank stirrup]

nah

[dusk bough]

Ok

[willow garden]

The cassette is an ordinary filmware, it starts with yellow, do the red !

[dusk bough]

Still nothing doing the same thing

[frank stirrup]

ok try with 1 stick only in slot 4

[dusk bough]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

OK

[dusk bough]

It has a boot faliure

[frank stirrup]

i think i know whats up

[dusk bough]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

lets try a few more things

[dusk bough]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

remove the stick thats in slot 4 and replace it with the stick 16gb sticks thats not in the pc rn

[dusk bough]

Is it all right to shut down the PC with this boot failure

[frank stirrup]

yes

boot faliure was when it failed to boot with both sticks in

[dusk bough]

Oh

Ok so try now

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[dusk bough]

Ok

Still no display

[frank stirrup]

only 1 stick is in yeah?

[dusk bough]

Yes

[willow garden]

TRy this: reboot and stirr the Track of the space of the space u seemingsly have the plug-in for the monitors to stick in the hardware center

[dusk bough]

In 4 slot

[frank stirrup]

ok now try that same stick in slot 2

[sterile apex]

Hey guys, I’m just a bit worried since I just bought a ROG G15 laptops, I’m wondering if it has an Optimus switch.

here’s the specs: RTX 3070
R9 5900HX
32 GB RAM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08XPB337W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[dusk bough]

Still nothing

[frank stirrup]

no optimus

[frank stirrup]

that stick is broken then

[dusk bough]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

did you buy the 2 sticks in a kit or 2 single sticks

[dusk bough]

In a kit

[frank stirrup]

what kit?

could you link it to me?

since you need to return it anyway i could see if i can recommend something better

[sterile apex]

U sure? It says here that I has Optimus

does it have a switch is what I’m wondering

it can lower performance right?

[frank stirrup]

hm I could be wrong but no mux switch is what im seeing online

[dusk bough]

https://www.newegg.com/neo-forza-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-0097-00016?Item=9SIAC0ECPB1355&utm_medium=TraEmail&utm_source=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US&cm_mmc=TEMC-Shipping-New-Tracking-Notification-Responsive-US-_-9SIAC0ECPB1355

It may have been single sticks

Oos

That may be tracking

[frank stirrup]

ok return the kit

[dusk bough]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

since one stick is dead

[dusk bough]

Ok

Thank you for your help

[sterile apex]

Oh crap

@frank stirrup wait but dosent Optimus reduce performance?

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907
This is a better kit if you can spend the extra money

Otherwise get this one

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232928

[frank stirrup]

slightly but you wont have a problem

[sterile apex]

you sure it doesn’t have a switch?

Like u 100% sure?

[frank stirrup]

pretty sure yes

[willow garden]

Pretty much trouble about firmware, check the devices

Or cable?

?!

[dusk bough]

can you find somethine better to do with your ime

you confused me so just go find a corner to troll in and stop speaking nonsense

[willow garden]

Ask yourself: does it make sense?

hm.. brb cigarette !

[analog pulsar]

guys

[vague oracle]

How much is it?

[willow garden]

Aas !

[analog pulsar]

CPU
Intel Core i9-11900K
GPU
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
RAM
Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3000MHz 64GB
Primary Storage
WD Black SN850 1TB SSD
Secondary Storage
Seagate Barracuda 4TB

tbh this was 3.5k before but they upped price again

[analog pulsar]

3.7k

[willow garden]

Worship 4 k

[serene hedge]

what is the best $109 ATX mobo on pcpartpicker for a 5600G

?

[willow garden]

?? no sense ??

[analog pulsar]

@vague oracle

for the ABS

[fossil cedar]

🤮

[analog pulsar]

bruh

[willow garden]

cigarettes everywhere

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L2qBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-b450-plus-ii-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b450-plus-ii

closest thing

[analog pulsar]

i mean I think it could be a good build for 3.5k all you need to do is switch out case

but they upped price

[willow garden]

Oh. I got my voice back !

[serene hedge]

what about the elite

[willow garden]

Turn the round slippers and buy some Cassettes bigger than your own screen !

[fossil cedar]

elite what?

[serene hedge]

aorus elite

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro actually this is @serene hedge

[fossil cedar]

no, doesnt have bios flashback

[serene hedge]

are you sure? Gigabyte says it does

[serene hedge]

also what special about this motherboard compared to others?

[fossil cedar]

doesnt matter anyway, b550 is a better chipset, worth the 2$.andi dont see a bios flash button there

[willow garden]

It's perfect

[serene hedge]

does this one have BIOS flash?

[willow garden]

Which I don't use

[fossil cedar]

yes

[willow garden]

cindy

but .. uhm I think so

[serene hedge]

does it have an M.2 slot

[fossil cedar]

ofc

[willow garden]

The uses of slots were from the 90s

[frank stirrup]

pato

elite has bios flashback on the board

bottom

[willow garden]

dimmish nite flashback

[karmic bluff]

.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh well still

[frank stirrup]

circled is bios flashback on x570 elite

if thats the mobo in question

oh b450

yeah b550 is better chipset

[willow garden]

A problem is to choose the right skull for that thing

[frank stirrup]

can you please shut it

thanks

[willow garden]

Hm.

[serene hedge]

i'm also going to be getting 3600Mhz for the ram even though ryzen wants 3200Mhz for the 5600G

[frank stirrup]

5600g can do 4400mts ram

[willow garden]

no probs? ; )

[frank stirrup]

dw about it

[fossil cedar]

No it does it wasn't 3600 at least

[willow garden]

Does anybody.. live like this? The thing is, I live in a church

[misty raft]

Thanks for the build list!

[sterile apex]

ah yeah I just found out it dosent

but is the Optimus auto switched on or off?!

[willow garden]

Turn the optimus switch off

I was like a dwarf but now I am taller 2.87 metres

[karmic bluff]

I have a Lenovo p620 Threadripper Pro workstation with a 3945 wx and an RTX A6000. I game, stream, use Revit, and AutoCAD. Is it worth it to move parts to a rackmount and watercool it or should I sell it in favor of the 4090 when it gets released in a few months and a more conventional CPU with potentially DDR5?

[willow garden]

Yes ! : )

[mossy venture]

We can't give you advice on non existent things

[willow garden]

Explaining: The lenovo gives more muscles to non-exibit tracks run along, with the tide not stranding for psychical crime to be another stateform but having a controlled church behaviour, with the Kingdom exposing computing as a realm of a tide of a woman inside of the Grass industry?

Gain; fenced into my u kno,.. stone imp

[karmic bluff]

Fair

[karmic bluff]

Reading this, I feel like I had a stroke

[mossy venture]

Theyre a troll

[karmic bluff]

That makes a lot of sense

[willow garden]

Flewish English

[willow garden]

Oh, they're gone

But my family is here, nicey pricey M ?

[rugged sparrow]

Ok, I just got my pre built running, in signed in and everything, is there anything I should do

Before I install steam and stuff

[karmic bluff]

before downloads check BIOS settings make sure they are all optimized

[rugged sparrow]

Never did that so you have a YouTube tutorial or something

On what to optimize

[karmic bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgWq6__3jXM

[rugged sparrow]

Ty

[karmic bluff]

No problem! After that download Twitch and follow me lol

[rugged sparrow]

Sure thing I already follow hundreds of people

Lmao

[karmic bluff]

Thanks lol

My link is in the self promo tab

I would also check temps since it's a prebuilt

[rugged sparrow]

Ya

If it is hot I’ll prob get an AIO and a new case

[karmic bluff]

What's the prebuild specs?

[rugged sparrow]

3070 Strix and r7 5800x

So ya it may get hit

Hot

[karmic bluff]

What's the prebuilt company/case and how many fans in what config?

[rugged sparrow]

ASUS, and just an exhaust fan

So ya prob gonna get a Corsair ICUE with an Arctic AIO

[karmic bluff]

You might be fine if you can just fit in an intake fan and undervolt the CPU

The guys in the overclocking and cooling can help more

[rugged sparrow]

I don’t have msi bios so I don’t know how to go there

[karmic bluff]

Should be able to hit f11 on startup it will be a different configuration but a lot of the options should look similar

[frank stirrup]

p400a

[rugged sparrow]

whats the difference

[frank stirrup]

this video is meh btw

only thing u need is xmp on

[rugged sparrow]

between the two cases since I was looking at the p400a

[frank stirrup]

between the p400 and?

[rugged sparrow]

ICUE 4000

[frank stirrup]

icue 4000 doesnt have as much airflow and comes with less fans

[rugged sparrow]

ok, because I am looking at my temps and its at 58

with only chrome, spotify and discord open

[frank stirrup]

idle irrelevant

open up cinebench or something

and look at em

asus uses bad cases on their prebuilts usually

[rugged sparrow]

ya

it only has an exhaust fan and no intake

so I may add an intake fan

or just get a hole new case for 75 dollars

whole

[frank stirrup]

id do the new case

[rugged sparrow]

ya

https://www.maxon.net/en/cinebench this?

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[median inlet]

Can someone make me a pcpartspicker list for my friend with a budget of $1,500 and including a gpu at its original price. And for the build to be white too

[rugged sparrow]

do I need to download the program from https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6709-cinebench.html

[frank stirrup]

download links are here

[frank stirrup]

@fossil cedar u free i was boutta hop into bed

[rugged sparrow]

oh i found it ty

[fossil cedar]

not really doing something else just let someone else get

[frank stirrup]

fair

anyway gnight

[rugged sparrow]

goodnight

[frank stirrup]

best of luck to ya pato

[fossil cedar]

thx enjoy sleep

[rugged sparrow]

@frank stirrup its around 90 C

[frank stirrup]

download hwinfo and keep it open

when cinebench

thatll show u throttling

because ur cpu definitely throttling

[rugged sparrow]

I have hwmonitor

[serene hedge]

@fossil cedar

it has just went up $30

[fossil cedar]

Context?

[zealous edge]

Did it work yet?

Or do you still need help?

[thin oar]

Still need help

But I think I may have diagnosed it to be a faulty motherboard

[pale dust]

sheesh the ASRock cs rep told the guy to take the bios "under the table"

lol

[distant vortex]

Does the i5-12600k pair well with a 3060 ti?

[desert gulch]

sure

[bleak hound]

Absolutely the gpu and cpu both are current gen

[strong raft]

1 of these or similar for 12gen? Sourcing an lga1700 bracket for certain coolers deffo is a hold up for switching to 12gen. 2nd pic is part of why I've got a dilemma now.

[desert gulch]

Fuma 2 better of those two imo but idk about lga1700 brackets for those

Also keep in mind if you get a Asus z690 then you can just use a normal lga1200 mounting kit cause extra holes are the same as lga 1200

[strong raft]

Hmm, some msi too? Well anyways it would be awesome if the FS140 arriving soon was gonna work. 🤘 (dang thermalright bracket is $15ish and takes 2+ weeks from china.

[desert gulch]

Iirc Asus is the only manu right now doing the lga1200 thing

[strong raft]

Seems so. I looked at mounting holes. Well my Ebay z590 mobo isn't a simple return so I'll deal w/ trying to sell that 1st. Thnx.

[topaz kestrel]

@fossil cedar the ram didnt work 😦

lol

[little osprey]

Does anyone know a good external 2tb hdd

[fossil cedar]

Ohh on stress test? It's ballistix right?

[topaz kestrel]

no

i mean the ddr3

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

[topaz kestrel]

it literally just showed a black screen xd

[fossil cedar]

You try with 1 stick?

[topaz kestrel]

ill try now

nope didnt work

[unkempt roost]

MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX ARGB 2.5GbE LAN 3 PCIE X16, 1PCIE X1 6 SATA3 3X M.2 SATA/PCIE or ASUS PRIME Z690-P WIFI DDR4 ATX Wi-Fi 6 2.5GbE LAN 4 PCIE X16 1PCIE X1 3X M.2 SATA/PCIE whats the better motherboard

[fossil cedar]

Clear cmos

[fossil cedar]

Pro A

[topaz kestrel]

good idea

no worky still pato

[fossil cedar]

You tried all the slots yeah?

[topaz kestrel]

ye

[fossil cedar]

Not sure then

[topaz kestrel]

@fossil cedar if i leave it on for like 30 seconds the fans go to 100%?

on the cpu and gpu

i am so confused

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

What cpu is it again?

[topaz kestrel]

@sullen spoke any idea why my pc would not be booting with my new ram?
HMT31GR7BFR4C-H9 hynix 2x8gb 1333mhz pc3-10600r
HP 615943-001 Motherboard
e3-1270v2
760ti oem
and for some reason all the fans ramp to 100% after a few seconds

[topaz kestrel]

@fossil cedar

i accidentally pinged ghosty but i think he said hes used this ram before

apparently my boards "architecture?" idfk what that means

[fossil cedar]

I assume the mobo came with the cpu? Otherwise there might be bios issues

[topaz kestrel]

yes it did

im not sure why the fans 100% ramp tho

thats what confuses me the most

[fossil cedar]

Uhhh try the gpu in a different port?

[topaz kestrel]

trying that now

[fossil cedar]

Also make the sure the cpu cooler is connected go the cpu fan header

[topaz kestrel]

it is

the gpu fan goes crazy aswell xd

nothing change by swapping gpu port

slot*

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

[topaz kestrel]

i tried with a dp cable aswell

and another monitor

1 sec ill see if i can capture the noise the pc starts making xd

its like deafening loud xd

[fossil cedar]

Does that cpu have igpu?

[topaz kestrel]

no

[fossil cedar]

Dam

Hmm

@topaz kestrel are you actively pressing the bios button when booting? Or do you have an os installed on the boot drive?

[topaz kestrel]

os was already on a boot drive, should i try going straight in without the ssd installed?

removed the ssd, nothing happened

ima try with my tv for a display

still nuffin

damn

@fossil cedar when i flick the psu switch the pc shouldnt instantly turn on right?

i just noticed

my old ram was pc3-12800e and my new ram is 10600r, is that an issue?

[fossil cedar]

Uh it shouldn't, do you have the front header wired up correctly, make sure all the power is connected right

[fossil cedar]

Shouldn't be

[topaz kestrel]

the case im using has all front headers connected so i cant even fail to plug it in the wrong way etc

[fossil cedar]

Just make sure its the correct way for your motherboard, not always the same unless it's a hp case and mobo you're using

[topaz kestrel]

its a dead silence case?

idk the brand

aerocool ds230

[fossil cedar]

Check the mobo manual and the way they have it set out

[topaz kestrel]

thing is

i dont have the manual

lol

[fossil cedar]

Google my friend

[topaz kestrel]

thats the thing 2x

i cant find the manual

xd

also if my old ram worked why would that matter?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh you were just ram swapping?

[topaz kestrel]

yes

thats the only thing i changed

i wanted more ram so i could run beefier mc server xd

[fossil cedar]

Uhh can you put the old back in?

[topaz kestrel]

yeah

lemme see if it still works

[sullen spoke]

try one stick at a time, check that you are using the primary dimm slots for the mobo and ye maybe go back and when you can get into bios check ram profile settings

[topaz kestrel]

well thats a conundrum

its not posting with old sticks

nvm

it took a second

oh yeah ghosty quick thing

ive never been able to enter the bios on this board

like

never

[sullen spoke]

lol do you know what the bios key is

[topaz kestrel]

ive tried all the keys like del etc

and like f10-

and f11

it just wont open bios

wait wtf

[sullen spoke]

it might be skipping the setup screen, you can try a cmos reset

[topaz kestrel]

i just loaded into it and it said upgradign my system?

im confused

It goes straight to this, and before you ask all of them are connected properly it’s an on going issue where it says it’s not

[fossil cedar]

Try f1

[topaz kestrel]

it goes straight into my pc

like

login

[sullen spoke]

what does that say, press esc key for startup...

[topaz kestrel]

i did

literally doesnt have bios in it

[fossil cedar]

It has to have bios

[topaz kestrel]

ill send pic in it 1 sec

[fossil cedar]

Try f1-f12, and del

[topaz kestrel]

Literally all that’s shows up

[topaz kestrel]

i did already

[sullen spoke]

on hp i think its supposed to be f10

[topaz kestrel]

it is^

[fossil cedar]

Run uefi application

[topaz kestrel]

it opens my ssd

[fossil cedar]

Huh

[topaz kestrel]

i know

thats what i said

1 sec ill show

[fossil cedar]

Try f10 again

[sullen spoke]

can you select computer setup from that menu

[topaz kestrel]

thats what happens when i click on eufi

thing

uefi*

[topaz kestrel]

yes

but nothing happens when i click it

[fossil cedar]

Try computer setup (f10)

[topaz kestrel]

.

[sullen spoke]

hmm

the case of the missing bios

[topaz kestrel]

lol

[fossil cedar]

Even when booting and mashing button?

[still roost]

MeowMeow#5479 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[topaz kestrel]

woops

you shouldve seen the crap show i went through to download windows on this thing

took like 4 hours

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[topaz kestrel]

literally for the life of it wouldnt boot into usb even tho there we only a usb to boot into

[sullen spoke]

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02069558

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i had same issue with my old 2nd gen laptop lol

[topaz kestrel]

huh? tf is the cmos button

im assuming it means the battery

[sullen spoke]

some board have a clear cmos button ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[topaz kestrel]

oh

well mine doesnt

xd

[sullen spoke]

what system do you have

[topaz kestrel]

wdym by what system do i have

you gotta use stupid terms

im not smart

[sullen spoke]

like what model computer, or was this custom made

[topaz kestrel]

IM IN IT

[fossil cedar]

What pc model is the hp pc that you upgraded

[topaz kestrel]

IM IN BIOS

[fossil cedar]

How?

[topaz kestrel]

HOW TF DID I DO THAT

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[topaz kestrel]

IDK I WAS SMASHING MY KEYBOARD

[sullen spoke]

or you just magically get into bios

perhaps a different keyboard

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

[topaz kestrel]

dats bios right?

idk what old bios looks like

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[topaz kestrel]

ok what now xd

[sullen spoke]

take landscape so i can see more xD

[topaz kestrel]

ok xd

ignore the 900p monitor im using

[sullen spoke]

put a post delay of 3-5 seconds first, maybe it will be easier to get here than

[topaz kestrel]

ok done

[sullen spoke]

now look around at what options you have, system inventory, information, settings, etc

[topaz kestrel]

i think i selected smth by accident its taking forever xd

Now I’m here

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[topaz kestrel]

oh wait i selected full boot

thats prolly why

[fossil cedar]

Monke

🥵

[topaz kestrel]

how long does a full boot take 😳

um

i am confused

there is now a blinking white line as if there is meant to be text written

but i cant write

xd

my brain is actually gonna explode

[sullen spoke]

while i was installing stuff here it appears i lost my signal

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[sullen spoke]

something like that would come up if the system is trying to load a module or drive

[topaz kestrel]

note to self

dont click full boot by accident

[topaz kestrel]

tf is it tryna load? shrek in 16k ultra hd

[sullen spoke]

some systems like servers have other things they have to initialize when starting, remote controllers, drive controllers, sync system info

[topaz kestrel]

i found system info

[sullen spoke]

just look around to see if anything need possible change

[topaz kestrel]

there literally isnt anything to do with ram or cpu

etc

i am confusion

xd

[sullen spoke]

lol what slots do you have the ram in rn

[topaz kestrel]

1-4

1 through 4 i mean

like

all slots

[sullen spoke]

oh

[topaz kestrel]

but my new ram is just 2

[sullen spoke]

what did you change it to when you install new

[topaz kestrel]

2 dimms

old ram is 2gbx4 and new ram is 2x8

same speed

[sullen spoke]

which slots, 1+2, 2+4, 1+4 etc

[topaz kestrel]

i tried 2+4 1 in all slots, 1+4 2+3 1+2

it literally just didnt boot

black screen

[sullen spoke]

did you give it time, or it was just black for a minute and you turn off

if the mobo has manual check what ram limitations it has, also the cpu

[topaz kestrel]

mobo max ram is 32gb

and same with cpu

[topaz kestrel]

it was black screen for like 2mins and the fans ramped up after like 20seconds

[topaz kestrel]

noise was awful

[sullen spoke]

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-PCs-Workstations-and-Point-of-Sale-Systems/RAM-stuck-at-2-11GB-as-usable-on-HP-280-G2-MT/m-p/7306621#M30129

[topaz kestrel]

there literally isnt any tabs that say advanced or anything to do with memory in bios/boot

[sullen spoke]

this is interesting https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ecc-ram-not-booting.2639077/

[topaz kestrel]

what does registered mean?

[fossil cedar]

Registered what?

[topaz kestrel]

i am so mad

my ram isnt supported

and there isnt refunds

:/

[fossil cedar]

What ram did you get ?

[topaz kestrel]

HMT31GR7BFR4C-H9

sk hynix

2x8

[fossil cedar]

What did you have before?

[topaz kestrel]

apparently the z210 doesnt support ecc or smth

idk what dat is

xd

registered memory with ecc or smth

i guess i will now forever see these silver sticks

in agony

knowing i wasted money

xd

[fossil cedar]

Ohh i thought you had ecc and where going to not ecc

[topaz kestrel]

im going to leave them on my desk as a reminder to do more research before i buy stuff

[sullen spoke]

im seeing that it support ecc and non ecc just not at the same time and i cant find anything whether or not it supports registered

[topaz kestrel]

cry

Lol

[sullen spoke]

where did you get them

[topaz kestrel]

Le eBay

[sullen spoke]

ah

you can always try resell them local if you in a good area, there is a market for them

[topaz kestrel]

I live in the most tech deserted town

Lol

[sullen spoke]

or give em to me ahahaha infinite wam

[fossil cedar]

Uk -> us not the cheapest shipping

[topaz kestrel]

I just wanted more ram for a mc server for the Bois, guess I’ll have to do more work for some more

Lol

[sullen spoke]

oh you in uk?

[topaz kestrel]

Yes

[sullen spoke]

yikes, i have place in eu, but not going anytime soon lol

[topaz kestrel]

atleast i have more days at work this week to earn some more money for the ddr3 thats stupid overpriced in the uk

:/

cringe

might be better off just getting another 16gb kit and running the server off my main pc at this point

[sullen spoke]

is it just mc

[topaz kestrel]

3yes sir

yes sir*

modded

[sullen spoke]

should be fine i think

[fossil cedar]

Uhhhhhh

Depends

How many ppl and any mods?/lot of pluggins?

[sullen spoke]

we used to run the wegg fan mc server off ~16gb ram and it worked just fine though not modded if you using insane mods than maybe problemo

[topaz kestrel]

25 people with 400 mods I think it is

[sullen spoke]

omg

[sterile tartan]

What do you think about the specs guys

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's gonna gobble up your cpu/ram

[topaz kestrel]

Doesn’t matter when we can’t see the price

[sterile tartan]

It doesn't matter lol, I'm just wondering If I chose the right specs

[topaz kestrel]

:/

[fossil cedar]

Price does matter

[topaz kestrel]

We can’t tel you unless we see the price

[stuck yew]

400 mods holy

[sterile tartan]

Fine

[fossil cedar]

@sterile tartan what's your budget?/how much is that

Because can't tel you if it's good without price

[sterile tartan]

But it has already been paid

[fossil cedar]

It's good for like 2k, terrible for like 3k

[sterile tartan]

By the way

[fossil cedar]

Well what's the point asking then lol

[sterile tartan]

2800$

[topaz kestrel]

Rip

[sterile tartan]

I know

[fossil cedar]

Overpaid

[sterile tartan]

But I really need a new pc

[fossil cedar]

You can get just as good prebuilt for 2.3k that's why we say

[sullen spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯