#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 1251

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:06 PM

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The guy who previously owned mine had it for awhile and apparently never repasted either

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And it’s still fine

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Under load

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Wonder if I’d get any noticeable difference by repasting

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:20 PM

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same here

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just waiting for a time to finally do it

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Yes sir about to buy some kryonaut

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:27 PM

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I literally cannot allign these 4 cpu corners 😭

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:33 PM

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edgy ravine I literally cannot allign these 4 cpu corners 😭

You trying to put a cpu into your SOC?

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It needs to be compatible with your chipset

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You may have the wrong CPU for your board

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:33 PM

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:/

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He isn’t that dumb

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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🗿well idk

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Unless they are 😳😳😳

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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I was gonna install a new cpu fan but i dont have the brackets for it so im putting my old one back in

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Why did you take your cpu out to swap your cooler?

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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I didnt

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i just took of the fan

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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jensen2

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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You mean where the wraith pokes through the board?

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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idk

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i guess

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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That isn’t the “cpu corners” xd

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Yeah, that got me confused

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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No i know where the cpu corners are at

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Iim just having a hard time trying to get all 4 corners lined up

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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So these brackets you talk about, are they so the cooler latches on?

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Yea

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but i dont have those so

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:37 PM

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I hate those coolers that are designed like that

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:37 PM

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This is difficult doing it by myself

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:38 PM

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It’s difficult to remove, I damaged my old cpu on my old build from one of those

edgy ravine Dec 30, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Ive been trying to align the holes for like an hour now

topaz kestrel Dec 30, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I remember yanking my phenom ii out of the socket lol

storm harness Dec 30, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Well, my new PC build came today, still can't find a reasonable graphics card. Guess I'll be fingers crossed on shuffle and use on-board Intel until the cow jumps over the moon.

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 6:48 PM

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topaz kestrel I remember yanking my phenom ii out of the socket lol

Same except for me a 3900x after the paste dried out

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I forgot to heat up the cpu for a bit

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That’s how I lost that 3900x

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Fortunately grabbed a replacement

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lisasu2

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 7:18 PM

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bruh

storm harness Dec 30, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Guys gals. I have the enthoo pro case. It has vents on the bottom of the case where the psu sits. Should I flip the psu upside down to face the motherboard or leave it facing the vents on the bottom of the case?

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This case has a cover plate that encases the psu should I leave it off? If I put it on there, then I will have to leave the fan on the psu facing the bottom

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 7:33 PM

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storm harness Guys gals. I have the enthoo pro case. It has vents on the bottom of the case wh...

leave it facing the vent

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 8:25 PM

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So glad I followed this guide to build my pc

storm harness Dec 30, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Anyone know if this enthoo pro case has a power led cable that goes to the jfp1? All I'm seeing is power sw, hdd led, and reset sw

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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little osprey

Can confirm. This works.

hazy wadi Dec 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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At microcenter right now, you guys reccomend rm750

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?

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Non x

simple olive Dec 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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That a corsair psu?

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 9:48 PM

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yes

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Where would I find 10400 drivers

simple olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Intel's website?

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:05 PM

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There’s nothing there

simple olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Cpu's don't need drivers

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Unless u mean iGPU?

stoic island Dec 30, 2021, 10:09 PM

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If you're looking for chipset drivers for the board, go to the board's website

fossil cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:14 PM

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weak anvil Where would I find 10400 drivers

Look for your motherboards chipset not the cpu, or you can download their auto detect thingy

storm harness Dec 30, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Anyone had to deal with this Enermax 3 on lga1700. Backplate isn't lining up. Screws coming through crooked and forced.

stoic island Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Does it have a separate lga1700 bracket?

fringe iris Dec 30, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Does the PowerColor RX 5600 XT ITX 6GB GDDR6 14 Gbps ITX EDITION have Raytracing on it?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:29 PM

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no

fringe iris Dec 30, 2021, 10:29 PM

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Dang

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Sucks Thank you

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:30 PM

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i just grabbed a 6600xt msi mech and it does but would not recommend lol

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:32 PM

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6600xt does, 5600xt doesn't

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it would run like crap even if they let you turn it on

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also ray tracing is going to punish the hell out of your 6600K lol @fringe iris

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ray tracing is a huge CPU load

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3600x wasn't bottlenecking my 3080 with ray tracing off

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but with ray tracing on the 3600x was struggling so hard

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even on my 5800x I see my CPU frametime increase to 2.5x

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while gpu frametime only increases to 1.7x

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gonna want at least a 5600x to keep up with ray tracing

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:35 PM

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i built a 6600xt 10400f build for my girlfriend i fired it up installed cyberpunk ray tracing was on by default i i got a solid 7 fps lol

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:35 PM

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humble rock i built a 6600xt 10400f build for my girlfriend i fired it up installed cyberpun...

L

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JK

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:35 PM

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well yeah

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3090s can barely handle that game with rtx on

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:35 PM

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barely.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:35 PM

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and radeon's implementation of rtx is kinda doodoo compared to nvidia's

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6900xt is like a 3070 with rtx on

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Oof

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:36 PM

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6600xt probably loses to 2060 with rtx on

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2060 mobile even

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should be an even larger gap if dlss is on

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:37 PM

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its a pretty good little 1080p card though

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Rtx is bit of a gimmick for now. At least HDR in certain older games didn't kill fps so bad. Oh wait, hdr used to be a bit of a gimmick as well lol

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:37 PM

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yeah 6600xt is definitely a 1080p rtx off card

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but it does that very well

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Yeah nice little rig turned out good

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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bruh…

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I’m so f

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jealous

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why

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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I like that overall ambiance. Very nice

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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end my life

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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I can't imagine sticking w/ a "normal" tiny mousepad like that weggNice

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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One of those dpi freaks

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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thats what i told her she said it was fine i was like no its not

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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oh

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humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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Mine and hers

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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yea no bye

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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"little"

td500 mesh

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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I was like that in older games because I hate lifting mouse to turn more. Plus, that was o.g. twitch shooters with no aDS or weird aiming like many newer games have

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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ain't nothing little about that case

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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yes sir

jagged ember Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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lmao that case aint little

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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strong raft I was like that in older games because I hate lifting mouse to turn more. Plus, ...

how do u prevent lifting your mouse

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I always hate that

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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"oh yeah I got my gf a little o11 dynamic xl with a double 360 custom loop"

jagged ember Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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I got myself a little full sized server rack

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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I almost did smh

jagged ember Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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only took up a corner of the basement

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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I was given a free 48U 4 post rack

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But sadly it was too tall for my house

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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how else are you gonna cool those dual 3090 nvlink while they render stardew valley in crisp 16K 240hz

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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i was going to go 4000d airflow but she didn't like the look of it

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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I got my gf a darkflash dlm21 pink mesh

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she loves pink

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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pink cases are so cute

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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little osprey how do u prevent lifting your mouse

Lol, just don't. I only do it more now because I had to lower overall sensitivity in some games to hit better.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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lmao I use like 2 inches of mouse space

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3200 dpi gaming

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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oh yeah learning how to stop lifting ur mouse helps so much

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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errant fiber oh yeah learning how to stop lifting ur mouse helps so much

are u being sarcastic

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errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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NO..

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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yes or no

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bruh.

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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i just upped my sens and it stopped happening

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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damn my phone isn't letting me log into pcpartpicker

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wanted to show gf's build

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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errant fiber i just upped my sens and it stopped happening

so basically a small mousepad and with high dpi?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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nvm I got in

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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little osprey so basically a small mousepad and with high dpi?

i'm literally playing on the floor rn bc i'm mid moving but yeah something like that

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/355220.9c1dddb06a79f7d12f947f669dd1442a.1600.jpg

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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errant fiber i'm literally playing on the floor rn bc i'm mid moving but yeah something like ...

o

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ni-

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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nice

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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earnest olive https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/355220.9c1dddb06a7...

WHAT

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/355220.0de68b0b03c49db5ecdc0fc9544766aa.1600.jpg

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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is that ari

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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errant fiber i just upped my sens and it stopped happening

That's it it works kekw

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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……

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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she sticker bombed the crap out of her case lol

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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dude that's so sweet

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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her wallpaper is ahri from league of legends yes

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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welp 3more months of saving up for my pc again 😄

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possibly 5

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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she paid for everything

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I just put it together

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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diesofcringe

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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$900 budget build

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still overkill for everything she does

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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970?

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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what gpu does she have

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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gtx 970

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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970 yeah

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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earnest olive still overkill for everything she does

google snake

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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visible heatpipes on gpus are so nice

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Actually I use lower dpi because some games have a crappy ingame slider and it'll be 1/8" from the left when it's a 5"wide slider

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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league, genshin, photoshop, normal web browsing/work

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that's about it

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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the overpriced 6600xt killed me though

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760 cdn

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Wha td the difference

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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paid 180 for the 970 at the peak of the shortage

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not too bad

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USD

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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just do express

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:50 PM

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custom is you select what you want to dl i think

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express is better tho

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Alr thx

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:51 PM

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@earnest olive what are u running in you're personal rig

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:51 PM

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3080

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 10:51 PM

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.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

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white non-lhr

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https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/368582.6338d93f5ae471561a74d6bb7b51a280.1600.jpg

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

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nice tried to get one but all i could find was a 3070tiand i had to buy a psu with it then sell said psu lol

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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yeah mine was bundled too

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sold the psu for full price

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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lol me 2

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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earnest olive yeah mine was bundled too

are those the lian li rgb cable extension thingies

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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ye

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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they look clean af

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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I feel kinda bad

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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compliments your build

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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one LED died on my 24-pin

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Which color jack do I plug my headset

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?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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and I contacted lian li for rma

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Mine isn’t as aesthetically pleasing as yours @earnest olive

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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they're sending me a new one

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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weak anvil Which color jack do I plug my headset

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earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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but the dead led fixed itself

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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oh

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i mean

weak anvil Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Which color jack for my headset??

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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lian li got nothing to lose

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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humble rock Mine isn’t as aesthetically pleasing as yours <@!122901618369757184>

yeah but yours is faster

errant fiber Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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u chillin bro LOL

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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yours has sonic and mine doesn't

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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weak anvil Which color jack for my headset??

green

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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true

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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I mean technically I can put sonic in mine

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that screen is an HDMI monitor

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I can put a video of sonic running on loop to make my PC the fastest

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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lol the 3080 makes your pc the fastest

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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nah

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my 3080 sucks

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lost silicon lottery too hard

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can barely oc it

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also 3080ti and 3090 exist

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and soon the 3090ti

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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i undervolted mine

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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mine is power limited to 370w anyways cause it's a 2x8-pin model

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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earnest olive paid 180 for the 970 at the peak of the shortage

That's really fine, only $20 more than I sold mine for last year & it's good for a lot of older games at 1080p.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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yeah that's back when market value was $200

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I recently got one for 135

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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earnest olive https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/368582.6338d93f5ae...

So mobos don't need much direct airflow nowdays?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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uhh only really on the vrms

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I've got enough airflow over the vrms

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Cool. I saw a high end mobo review & it had only 55c or so on the vrms. steveconfused pepesquid

fossil cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:59 PM

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earnest olive but the dead led fixed itself

Guess you'll have to forward it to me 😜

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 10:59 PM

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my freezer 2 has a little vrm fan but im not sure how good of a job it does

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:00 PM

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fossil cedar Guess you'll have to forward it to me 😜

I'll throw it to ireland

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catch

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my mobo vrms are barely even awake pushing a 5800x

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not a super power hungry chip

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:01 PM

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i was going to buy one but i thought id stick with the 9700k for now

fossil cedar Dec 30, 2021, 11:01 PM

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earnest olive I'll throw it to ireland

Okay I'm ready

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Well seller didn't use their newegg packaging and usps sort of threw it down lol, but: (no, was not full price) 🤘

fossil cedar Dec 30, 2021, 11:02 PM

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strong raft Well seller didn't use their newegg packaging and usps sort of threw it down lol...

The box looks fine to me

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:03 PM

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z590 what you buildin

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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fossil cedar The box looks fine to me

Yep seems fine, but find out later. It's brand new from a NE bundle :lul: kekw saved me about $65

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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wow that is a hideous board

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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humble rock z590 what you buildin

Now I have to hurry up & get m.2 ssd, ram, & fine well price i7 or just go 11600K

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:07 PM

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reminds me of an LGA775 board with all the colors

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:07 PM

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earnest olive wow that is a hideous board

"Can't see it from my house"

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Looks better in person? Lol, idk

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:07 PM

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they could have just said FORCE

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but instead it says FORCE FORCE FORCE FORCE FORCE

desert gulch Dec 30, 2021, 11:07 PM

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earnest olive wow that is a hideous board

you can tell the creator isnt proud of their product when they wont even put a pic of it on the box lmao

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:08 PM

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you'll have to make some good colour choices for that mobo

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:08 PM

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I thought it was on the plastic but it's not. ThisIsFine

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:09 PM

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what, the force?

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:09 PM

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X6*

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:09 PM

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yeah

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looks so stupid to have it 5 times lmao

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at least graphics card ought to cover it

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:09 PM

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Exactly

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:10 PM

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I strongly prefer neutral color everything lol

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so I can use RGB to make my PC whatever color I want and it won't clash

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:10 PM

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get that noctua 3070 thiccc boi to cover it up

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:12 PM

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humble rock get that noctua 3070 thiccc boi to cover it up

For sure, or use 38x120 fans on mine

stable tinsel Dec 30, 2021, 11:13 PM

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My pc blue screen with a kmode error

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:14 PM

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earnest olive reminds me of an LGA775 board with all the colors

Look up ep45-ud3h, that one just featured blue a bunch. 🤘

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:15 PM

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@strong raft im running 9 and i thought i had good airflow 38 the gpu will run at room temp always lol

stable tinsel Dec 30, 2021, 11:15 PM

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What's a kmode error

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:16 PM

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something overwrote something else@stable tinsel

stable tinsel Dec 30, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Is it very bad or harm my pc

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:17 PM

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im pretty sure you can fix it do a youtube search

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:21 PM

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The reason why I didn’t get the gaming force because I just think it is a really ugly motherboard

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It’s still a good motherboard but

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I just don’t like the color

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:22 PM

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humble rock <@!742588277898608713> im running 9 and i thought i had good airflow 38 the gpu ...

I'm runningjust 2 intake, 1 exhaust & 1 bottom intake for the gpu. Wouldn't believe how much I can keep the gpu fans before they turn on 🤘. Oh, and 1 of those small 3 speed fans that's hanging by the ram to help lower gpu pcb temps kekw

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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That’s nice

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Indeed, I've proved 65c max on 4k furmark w/ 35ish fan speed pepesquid

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Dan Dan you going all out

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Ratbeard I've always wanted 38mm fans but the deltas or something were always like $20/fan which is a lot to me, and they more for rads or thick hsf

still roostBOT Dec 30, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Taybeast#1077 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:26 PM

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What

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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💩 pepehmmm

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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All I was saying that it’s stupid that they charge that much sometimes for fans

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Well there is a reason for it

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Ya I know

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Hey guys, so I am getting my PC together soon and I have all the parts coming in. Can I get the PC started and going with out the main GPU installed when I have a integrated graphics CPU?

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Yup

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Yup

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Alright well that's good

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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You sure can

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Chilled

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Chillen

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Second question how do I get windows. I have my laptop that I guess I could get the files from there and import it to the new build. It needs a key correct?

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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38mm thick & good long term bearing is part of why they were spendy. I'd just get a few arctic p12 fans nowadays

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I got the same brand motherboard but it is the z-590 carbon

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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little osprey Second question how do I get windows. I have my laptop that I guess I could get ...

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/install-windows-from-a-usb-flash-drive?view=windows-11

Install Windows from a USB Flash Drive

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You can use Windows without a product key

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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The branding on mine is hilarious though.

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

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Here are the downloads for the tool to create a USB drive to install Windows

humble rock Dec 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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All 3 tomb raider games are free on epic today if anyone is interested

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Dang, thanks guys!

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Np

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Chillen

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@strong raft

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What cpu do you have

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:36 PM

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In my name, I don't have a cpu for the new mobo yet. Probably 10-11700k or 11600k. Almost don't mind an 11400(F), but bit of a waste

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Nice

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A good choice

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Ya that would be a bit of a waste

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I’m going with I9 11900k I just have to order it still

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Aye does a MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk work with Ryzen 7? I am debating between a cheaper Ryzen 5 5600g or a 5700g.

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Awesome. I'm Mostly familiar w/ Ebay so hunting on other places is tough

desert gulch Dec 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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little osprey Aye does a MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk work with Ryzen 7? I am debating between a chea...

yeah

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you may have to update bios if you go with a 5000 series

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but its got bios flashback so thats easy

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Amd has way better cpu support kekw

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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I just get all my parts from micro center

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Bruh the closest microcenter is like 4+ hours away.

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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7 for me

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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That sucks

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Dang

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Mine 2 hours away

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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There are like non in the south.

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Northern CAL needs 1

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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TN needs one

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Bro how does MN have one then

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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There is one 5 hours away from me in Chicago

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I don't really care about one being close since I just order everything online, I mean the CPU and motherboard combo deals are pretty neat though

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Bro you lucky

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I have to go and reserve mine and then go pick it up

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:42 PM

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My microcenter is 13 miles away

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kek

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WAIT 10

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It’s in houston

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Is it worth it to get a Ryzen 7 5700g or save the hundred or so dolllars and get the Ryzen 5 5600g?

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hm

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cinco

strong raft Dec 30, 2021, 11:44 PM

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I only want an MC for a cpu now, lol. But I miss having a big tech store like that to check out

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:44 PM

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little osprey Is it worth it to get a Ryzen 7 5700g or save the hundred or so dolllars and get...

well what are you going to do with it

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gaming performance is going to be the same

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Ya

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:44 PM

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are you going to use the extra multicore

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:45 PM

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earnest olive well what are you going to do with it

Yeah gaming I just want to get a integrated CPU so when I wait to get a 3060 Im not sitting here with a brick.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:45 PM

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get an intel cpu

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the ryzen G processors have half the cache of the non-G ones

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which basically removes one generation of performance

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:45 PM

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If your going for intergrated graphics go with intel it’s a lot better

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:46 PM

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you're paying for a weaker cpu with an $80 igpu basically

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Ya orange is right

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:46 PM

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may as well grab an 11600K or 12600K if you can afford it

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Okay, which intel would basically be around the same price? Im new to PCs so sorry lol

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Man intel names are kinda confusing let me check that one

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:47 PM

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if you really really really just wanna have ryzen then I'd rather get a 5600x or used 3600 and grab a gt 1030

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:47 PM

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And I do need a CPU cooler with that aswell. Unlike the ryzen intel doesnt have one with it.

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:48 PM

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trust me, the stock cooler for ryzen 5000 is only there to keep up appearances

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it's not something you should ever actually use on ryzen 5000

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Alright, good to know

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Coolers are also fairly cheap which is nice.

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Hey orange

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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yes?

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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You think the i9 11900k is a good starter cpu

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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no

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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for what price

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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11900k is a bad buy

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10900k beats it in all but the imc

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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For $300

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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oh

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i take that back

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Where you getting one for $300?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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not bad for 300

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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id be worried about a scam for that

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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including or excluding tax

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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It’s from my friend he only used it for a month

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Is the I7 9700k good?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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ah

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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He’s upgrading his pc

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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ah

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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little osprey Is the I7 9700k good?

yes

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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yeah it's a pretty good buy for 300

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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little osprey Is the I7 9700k good?

Depends on the price

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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I'd do it if I was in the market for a cpu

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 PM

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It's pretty old by todays standards

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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9700K worth 175 tops if it's bnib

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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worn wave Depends on the price

Its $327 on newegg rn

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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150 used

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Oh lmao

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Are used CPUs good?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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older processors that get discontinued tend to have unreasonable retail prices

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Buying any old CPU brand new currently is usually overpriced and not worth it

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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earnest olive 9700K worth 175 tops if it's bnib

doesnt it beat a 3700x?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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I'm a bit wary of buying overclockable cpus used

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in what?

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gaming? sometimes

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productivity? almost never

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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I just found a 3070 for 5k dollars

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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really

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didnt know that

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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also, 3700x is selling for around 200 frequently

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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thought it was all around better

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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9700k doesn't have HT

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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a

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Forgot to ask you guys think I should go with a ssd or a hard drive

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:52 PM

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it will beat the 3700x in workloads that scale negatively with HT on if you can clock it more than 15% higher than the 3700x

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

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SSD for your boot drive

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

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Oh lmao so on my current PC I have a OG Dell gaming laptop from 2016. It has a i5-7300HQ So basically anything will be better at this point. And a 1050ti

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

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wow

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that big of a difference huh

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

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Alright sounds good

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

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it's 8c/8t skylake vs 8c/16t zen 2

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zen 2 has 15% higher ipc than skylake

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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So you think a 980 pro would do the trick

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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I got 5368 cb on a 3700x at 4.4

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5364 cb on a 10700K at 5.1

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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https://github.com/windshields/stoRAGE-consumer-SSD-buying-guide/blob/main/SSD tier list.md

GitHub

stoRAGE-consumer-SSD-buying-guide/SSD tier list.md at main · windsh...

SSD buying guide & tier list, maintained and updated by select editors - stoRAGE-consumer-SSD-buying-guide/SSD tier list.md at main · windshields/stoRAGE-consumer-SSD-buying-guide

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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do the math

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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wow

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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skylake is generally better in gaming than zen 2 but

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a lot of games use more than 8 threads now

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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so then was there niot a big dif between 8th and 9th gen i7?

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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in fact the i7-9700K loses to the i7-8700K in a few games

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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wow

untold beacon Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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Oooof

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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6c/12t vs 8c/8t on the same architecture

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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so 9th gen is basically 11th gen

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?

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well

little osprey Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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I think tbh I might just go for a 5600g. I can always upgrade, its not that far off from a 5600x iirc

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:55 PM

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let me rephrase that

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same issue

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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well, no, because 9th gen actually had a relatively exciting flagship

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it was largely just a refresh though

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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I miss my 9900K tbh

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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it's literally called coffee lake refresh

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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The packaging was awesome

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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i3-8100 and i3-9100 are both 4c/4t

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i5-8400 and i5-9400 are both 6c/6t

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i7-8700 is 6c/12t, i7-9700 is 8c/8t

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i9-9900 is 8c/16t, i9 8th doesn't exist

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for desktops anyways

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there is an 8th gen i9 laptop chip

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM

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there was a 7900k, wasnt there?

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or am i remembering wrong

worn wave Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM

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HEDT

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM

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that's not 8th gen

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM

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i know

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM

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there are no 8th gen hedt chips

mossy venture Dec 30, 2021, 11:58 PM

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just because were talking about i9s

earnest olive Dec 30, 2021, 11:58 PM

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i9-7900x, 7920x, 7940x, 7960x, and 7980xe are all skylake-e

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then they got refreshes in i9-9900x, 9920x, 9940x, 9960x, 9980xe, and 9990xe (rare)

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then 10900x, 10920x, 10940x, 10960x, 10980xe

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skipped 8th gen

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but yeah thats all refreshes basically

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all same core counts between gens

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just higher clock speeds

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really funny how 7th gen had 4c/8t at the top of the consumer stack but 18c/36t was available for hedt

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:00 AM

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So I am looking at a B550 Tomahawk. Whats the wifi version of that? The B550M Mortar wifi? Or is that a completely different board, if its only a little different I might just go for that.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:00 AM

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there was even a 4c/4t extreme series lmao

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are you looking for any specific motherboard features besides wifi

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:01 AM

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That’s what I was just gonna ask

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:01 AM

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I'm not %100 sure what I should look for in them. Im going to run a m.2 and I want to pick up a 3060 when I can. Im new to desktops so I am not sure what I should look for.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:02 AM

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pretty much every modern mobo can run m.2

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Ya

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:02 AM

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rgb? usb-c? wifi 5? wifi 6? what cpu do you expect it to run? what form factor/size?

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:04 AM

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earnest olive rgb? usb-c? wifi 5? wifi 6? what cpu do you expect it to run? what form factor/s...

Okay, so I don't need RGB. I would like USB-c and preferably wifi 6 but 5 could work fine. And its normal ATX. Im going to be running a 5600g and G.skill ripjaw ddr4 3200.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Orange once I start building my pc I’m getting in a call with you and your gong to help me build the thing 😂

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I need your big brain

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:04 AM

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aim for better ram if you want to run a 5600g

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3200c16 is bottom of the barrel

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igpu performance is almost linearly tied to ram speed

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Lmao, What speed would be good for that?

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3600?

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Or higher

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:04 AM

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and if there's one thing those apus do well it's their monster memory controllers

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4400

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vVVD4D/patriot-viper-steel-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4400-cl19-memory-pvs416g440c9k

Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory

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may need to manually set fclk 1:1 in bios when applying 4400 xmp profile

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or even downclock it to something like 4200c18

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but you won't regret it

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:05 AM

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damnnnn thats cheap for ram

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prob because it doesnt have the rgb lights

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:06 AM

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this isn't just any ram lol

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it's b-die

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you don't want rgb on b-die

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b-die is temp sensitive enough that the rgb leds can cost you some performance

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:07 AM

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ah thanks for clarification

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Thats not too bad price. Would you think for PC VR this would hold up well? I wont be running the IGPU for long. Just keeping it till I can get a GPU. I have my laptop still.

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Use it till I can get a GPU*

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:07 AM

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as long as you're planning to keep the 5600g you might as well give it its best chance

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro i suggest getting this motherboard and adding a wifi card

MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

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the cheapest ATX boards that have both integrated wifi and usb-c are like $200 right now

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apparently wifi 6 cards are having supply issues, so here's a cheap but solid wifi 5 card (have personally used before) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MLJmP6/msi-ac905c-pcie-x1-wi-fi-adapter-ac905c

MSI AC905C PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:11 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/13-144-331 How about this one? It doesnt have built in USB-C but my case does have one on top.

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Or is that something else?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:12 AM

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the top usb-c port won't work if the motherboard doesn't have a usb-c header

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this DOES have a usb-c header and is a fantastic choice

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but it's not ATX

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so if you don't care about that you can absolutely go ahead and buy this

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Oh RIP

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:13 AM

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it's micro-ATX

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it will fit in a standard ATX case

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it'll just look a little small

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figured when you said normal atx you meant you wanted full size

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Do I need to use the Enermax compound with the liqmax3 or can I use this artic silver I have?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:13 AM

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you can use any thermal paste you want

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:14 AM

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earnest olive it will fit in a standard ATX case

Im running a Corsair 4000d airflow. I think it has spots for micro iirc Tbh I might get some better airflow because its not as cramped.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:14 AM

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here's an example of a microatx motherboard in an atx case

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if the look doesn't bother you then go ahead

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Oh thats not bad

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:15 AM

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airflow isn't really a consideration for motherboard size lol

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:15 AM

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It's been a while since I've built, do I still do pee size in the middle or pee size then some in other areas

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:15 AM

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What I mean is that it wont block as much of the fans possibly.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:15 AM

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it's not blocking anything meaningful lol

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so yeah if all you care about is making that usb-c port on your case work then the b550m pro-vdh wifi is good

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I did a build in the 4000d airflow where I used the b550-a pro cause I wanted usb-c to work and wanted to fill out the case

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oh wait

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no that was the z490-a pro

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similar board different chipset

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:18 AM

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This board is a bit more than a tomahawk but its wifi and has USB-C and its standard size. wait one for link

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550m-mortar-wifi/p/13-144-327 Looks a little more "gamer" lmao

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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this is micro atx

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Is it lol

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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it says it in the title

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Dang im dumb lol

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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the m in b550m stands for micro

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Oh okay

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:20 AM

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my 20 minute 4000d build

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they designed the case super well

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so easy to build in and cable manage

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thats why it took 20 minutes lol

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well, helped that there was almost no rgb to cable manage

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Dude I got to say this case looks great to.

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I got the black one

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In today actually

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:22 AM

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So this liqmax3 only has a 3 pin coming out of it. Where am I suppose to put it on this z690a pro? All my fan connectors are 4 pin. I have a couple 3 pins that are built in on the enthoo pro case

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:22 AM

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wanna guess which gpu that is?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:22 AM

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storm harness So this liqmax3 only has a 3 pin coming out of it. Where am I suppose to put it ...

you can put a 3 pin on a 4 pin header - try to find one that's labeled WPUMP

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that 3-pin header is the water pump header

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it doesn't need a 4-pin pwm connector because it's designed to run at full speed always

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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earnest olive wanna guess which gpu that is?

Im guessing not a 30 series card lol

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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it'll only fit on in one way thanks to the guiding tooth

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so don't worry about putting it on wrong

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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little osprey Im guessing not a 30 series card lol

it's a wifi card pretending to be a gpu

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Oh lol thats great

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Is there a GPU then?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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built it for a music producer

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Or IGPU?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 AM

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he just needed cpu power, no gaming

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Ok I'll try

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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so it's an i7-10700K using igpu

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Interesting Thats a NICE build

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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he's had no complaints with it

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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I have that case right behind me rn. I paid $7 out of pocket.

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I had gift cards so lol

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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i paid $0

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pc building is pretty cheap when the customer pays for the parts

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Lol I would think so

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:25 AM

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made $292.49 off of that build

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not too shabby for a 20 minute assembly

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Except 30 cards. That just takes your time away.

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Or spend a stupid amount of money to get one now

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:26 AM

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For real though, liqmax3 is difficult, cords everywhere

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 12:26 AM

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you should see the back of my build

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way too many rgb cables to manage

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it gets messy when you have like 40 cables to deal with

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 12:27 AM

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earnest olive here's an example of a microatx motherboard in an atx case

It's funny to bother w/ matx in a normal case that fits atx

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:27 AM

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I think I might be able to get all my parts in one order on newegg

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 12:27 AM

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I wish I would've taken off this front bay and put thr cooler there. Right now I have it mounted on top

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:28 AM

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I plan on getting a Corsair RM750. You think thats overkill for a 5600g and a 3060 (eventually)

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:30 AM

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I think that it’s fine it’s always good to have extra wattage

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:32 AM

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This is my build so far. Excluding GPU

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:33 AM

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That’s a good build

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You got your case yet

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Yes I got it in today

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4000d

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Nice

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I’ll shows you my build give me a minute

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System Builder - Core i9-11900K 3.5 GHz 8-Core, GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING X TRIO - PCPartPicker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Should I spend the extra hundred or so on a ryzen 7?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:34 AM

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You can if you want if your going for gaming performance I would do it

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But you don’t have to do it

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The build you have is just fine

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Just don’t do what I did

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Keep changing your decisions on what you’re going to get over and over again

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And then you realized that you shouldn’t have changed your stuff so much

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Oh Lord its $913 after TAX

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Taxation is theft

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Jesus

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@little osprey

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:41 AM

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?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:41 AM

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So do you have most of your parts our are you riding them all right now

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Ordering

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:42 AM

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I am ordering them I probably should have specified.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:42 AM

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Alright

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Hope everything turns out how you want it to

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Let me show you something

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Just got that beast today

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 12:47 AM

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little osprey This is my build so far. Excluding GPU

Can you send a link to it so I can make a couple changes? It’s quite meh in most places

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 12:51 AM

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untold beacon

Yeah basically the wifi model of mine. My current rig is Z77 & that mobo was $120ish. Pretty neat having such a rad mobo/setup (soon). Now I have to double check deals for all else besides psu/gpu Yikers 😅

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:51 AM

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Oh boy

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Have fun with that

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Chillen what you rocking for storage

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@strong raft

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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vague oracle Can you send a link to it so I can make a couple changes? It’s quite meh in most...

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Blackout2244/saved/9Vv899

Blackout first desktop 2022

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I have the case an I'll get any 3060 when I can

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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What’s the budget and use case?

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And RGB or no?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 12:59 AM

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I got RGB it fresh

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:00 AM

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untold beacon Chillen what you rocking for storage

Currently a sata 250 GB mx500 for boot/os & a 1TB wd hdd for data/games. Have a spare 1TB mx500 but I was deffo thinking nvme/m.2 for the new setup. Probably the Hynix S31

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:00 AM

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@strong raft is your set up rgb or is it just plan

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Oh curently just the Strix gpu w/ it's rgb-ness & a lil fan w/ blue leds on it haha

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Nice

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My whole motherboard is rgb 😂

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:02 AM

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vague oracle What’s the budget and use case?

Gaming, VR I don't really care about RGB rn. I would like to stay around the $800 after tax area. This is excluding a GPU for now I do want a IGPU

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I knew it that your budget was going to be about $1,000

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I was only $200 off though

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@strong raft

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What you doing

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Or anybody else

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:06 AM

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untold beacon I knew it that your budget was going to be about $1,000

Lol yeah the GPU will finish that price off.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Ya my budget is about $2000

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:07 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M83pxc Id do something like this

System Builder

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:07 AM

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untold beacon My whole motherboard is rgb 😂

You mean the carbon or what do you have before that? Idk if I want much rgb or not. The P12 fans from Arctic are well priced

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Ya the carbon

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It looks pretty nice so far

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I just hope it works well

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:09 AM

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No point in going for a 5700g, Pilot E has better RANDIO over the samsung 970 which is what really matters in gaming, Ryzen tends to have trouble using ram above 3600mt/s, MSI PSU is overall better quality than that Corsair psu

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:09 AM

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And it even has a BIOS update button on the back of it

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:09 AM

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untold beacon And it even has a BIOS update button on the back of it

Most modern mobos do

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:10 AM

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If you’d let me finish

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I was going to say it’s a nice upgrade from my last motherboard since it was a old piece of junk 😂

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And I don’t have to go in and update the BIOS and wait fore as long as I had to

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@vague oracle what are you rocking for specs for your pc

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Which PC?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Your main

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Gaming it is

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Give me a sec ill put together a PCPP

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Alright

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:16 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Gg7Dc

System Builder

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 AM

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I'm getting mixed messages on the 3600g should I have higher speed ram or keep a 3200 to 3600

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Huh?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 AM

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That’s a nice build

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Thanks

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Hold on I’ll show you mine I just am still think on a case to get

distant vortex Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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is 1000 a good price for a 3060ti?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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System Builder - Core i9-11900K 3.5 GHz 8-Core, GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING X TRIO - PCPartPicker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Definitely not

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Most id pay for a 3060ti is around 600

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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No that’s not a good price at all

distant vortex Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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vague oracle Most id pay for a 3060ti is around 600

it's hard to find that price

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Not really

distant vortex Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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It's always 800+

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on new egg

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Best buy has drops almost monthly where you can get one for MSRP

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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If you know where to look you can find a 3060 ti for $600

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Look at the pins in #graphics-cards

distant vortex Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Alright thx

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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distant vortex on new egg

Exactly why we search around. I also only buy from the 'zon sometimes for 5 or 10% back

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:22 AM

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vague oracle No point in going for a 5700g, Pilot E has better RANDIO over the samsung 970 wh...

GameStop has a MSI PSU 650w iirc My brother could get a discount for working there aswell

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:23 AM

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the AGF?

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If so then yeah go for it

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Is this good? https://www.gamestop.com/consoles-hardware/desktops-laptops/pc-components/power-supplies/products/evga-supernova-650-gt-650w-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-power-supply/252776.html

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT 650W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Power Supply ...

Buy EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT 650W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Power Supply at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and more.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:27 AM

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See thats my pc right now im just upgrading

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:28 AM

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little osprey Is this good? https://www.gamestop.com/consoles-hardware/desktops-laptops/pc-com...

@vague oracle This was the one I saw

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We got 15% off

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:29 AM

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I mean that would be fine

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:29 AM

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I can get the SSD cheaper

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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But I would go with a coarser 750 watt

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Corsair

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I would get that EVGA one for $59

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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But that power supply is still fine

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Pretty sure that EVGA is fine

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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That’s what I just said it’s fine

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:31 AM

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lol

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Id still go for the MSI A-GF but if you want that one go for it

distant vortex Dec 31, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Which do you recommend
prebuild or build

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Build

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You can spend less money on it

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A prebuilt cost more

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Sometimes

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:32 AM

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In this market I’d say go for a prebuilt

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ABS has very good offerings

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:35 AM

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AYYYEE

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They do have the MSI 750w

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For $98

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https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/power-supplies/products/msi-mpg-a750gf-750w-80-plus-gold-atx-fully-modular-power-supply/307214.html

MSI MPG A750GF 750W 80 PLUS Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply | G...

Buy MSI MPG A750GF 750W 80 PLUS Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and more.

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:38 AM

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vague oracle In this market I’d say go for a prebuilt

So, what ram should I get I was originally going to get the Ripjaw ddr4 3200 32gigs

vague oracle Dec 31, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Look at the pcpp list I sent

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16gb crucial Ballistix 3600mhz

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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vague oracle 16gb crucial Ballistix 3600mhz

What about the corsair 3600mhz 32gb? its like $40 more

desert gulch Dec 31, 2021, 1:41 AM

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little osprey What about the corsair 3600mhz 32gb? its like $40 more

Because corsair

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Sometimes won't even run at rated

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And ballistix has way more oc potential

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 1:42 AM

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Man this is craziness trying to figure out how to connect these fans and lights with control switch on liqmax3. Instructions really don't help.

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:45 AM

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So would getting a Crucial 3600mhz 16 gig be better than 3200mhz Gskill ripjaw 32gb?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Let me think

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Only if you often need 16+, but 32GB is the future. I run 32GB of ddr3 right now and all I do is game

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Bruh the Crucial is out of stock on Newegg.

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I play a lot of VR so I think 32 might be good but not sure

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Ya I’m a have to go with Chillen on this one

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Oh

hazy wadi Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 AM

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360 rad at front or top for 4000d?

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Whats reccomended

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Depends on timings also. 3200 cl16 = 3600 cl 18 in overall latency

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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I mean I am going to play VR myself and my cousin is very good with PCs and he said that 16gb of rham should be just

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For VR

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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strong raft Depends on timings also. 3200 cl16 = 3600 cl 18 in overall latency

The Gskill ram is 3200 cl16 No clue if thats good lol

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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That’s just fine

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I just run 3600 for my rham

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Cl18

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G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

hazy wadi Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Nvm

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Ram that's 3000+ isn't hardly a factor in games anyways

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Ya that’s true

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 AM

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So get 32 Gskill ripjaw?

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Its not that much more than 16 gig ones.

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 AM

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If deffo cl 16? That's a fine pick really

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Ya that is alright

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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It says cl16 on pcpart let me double check

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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I am upgrading to 32 gb of rham anyways

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Alright

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Yeah says cl16

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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That’s good

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Link? I might get it. I'm hunting for cheapish 32GB set that's at least those specs

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Well if I were to say I would strongly go with any brand of G.skill

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091?Item=N82E16820232091&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-ci_I2TMok8YxJG1ae_jMqQ

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:56 AM

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That’s a good deal

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:56 AM

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And I can get everything but SSD and PSU on Newegg. I can get the SSD and PSU for 229

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:56 AM

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What is your SSD

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Samsung evo 970 1tb

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Nice

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I got a 980 pro

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And a 980

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Should I get a aftermarket cooler or just use the Ryzen for now?

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I was recommended the vetroo v5

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But do I need thermal paste aswell?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Just use the Ryzen stock cooler for now and then once you have more money buy a aftermarket cooler

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 AM

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you're making a mistake buying 3200mhz ram for an apu

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I mean he’s got a budget

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Like I said earlier Im getting mixed messages about this ram

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 AM

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igpu performance scales extremely well with ram bandwidth

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:00 AM

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I mean you are right orange

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:01 AM

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it's not that expensive to get better ram

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:01 AM

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True

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:01 AM

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if you're really on such a tight budget get ballistix and manual oc it

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:01 AM

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But he needs money still for the graphics card

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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then why spend so much on this apu when you can get an 11400 or w/e

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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I am not worried about GPU cost rn I am good on that. I just want to get what works

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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then get the faster ram

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Oh alright that’s can make things a lot easier then

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Ya go with faster ram then

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Like 3600

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:03 AM

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i don't even settle for 3200c16 in $300 builds

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$30 ram kits will manual oc to 3200c14 pretty often

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Does the size of ram matter? Like I said I play alot of VR

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 AM

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wouldn't say 32gb matters much with a 3060 unless you play some very specific games

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haven't run into any limits yet with 16gb and a 3080

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Aight I can always upgrade later aswell

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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yep

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Would that b550m need to be bios updated for the ryzen 5?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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The majority of VR headsets require at least 8 GB of RAM. The only exception is HTC Vive Pro and HTC Vive Pro Eye that can run with just 4 GB. HTC Vive Cosmos also requires 8 GB

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Or is this just plug and play

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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it's possible

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can't say for sure

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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untold beacon The majority of VR headsets require at least 8 GB of RAM. The only exception is ...

Im running a quest 2

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 AM

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just depends on how old the stock you get is

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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I can play half life alyx on my laptop lmao

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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if you're going for the pro-vdh wifi that has a bios update button

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so doesn't matter

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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earnest olive just depends on how old the stock you get is

Ah okay

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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earnest olive if you're going for the pro-vdh wifi that has a bios update button

Wait what does the bio button mean? I just put the CPU in and its good?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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it means you can do bios update without a compatible cpu

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useful for putting newer cpus in older boards that don't support them out of the box

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 AM

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the Oculus Quest 2 across the board compared to its predecessor. The Snapdragon XR2 processor is several generations newer than the Snapdragon 835 of the original Oculus Quest, and the 6GB of RAM of the Oculus Quest 2 helps the headset run more smoothly.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 AM

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you get whatever bios was the latest when the board was manufactured

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you might get a board that was manufactured last week

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 AM

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So you would only need 6GB of ram to make it run smoothly

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 AM

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earnest olive you get whatever bios was the latest when the board was manufactured

Alright awesome

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 AM

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you might get a board that's been sitting in the warehouse since 2020

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but in the end it doesn't matter because you don't need to buy an older cpu to boot either

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Lol, could I ask for a newer stock if they have it?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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as long as you have the bios update button

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no

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Hopefully he’s got that

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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there's just no way to tell

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the board he wants does have it

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that's why i'm saying it doesn't matter

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Ya if really doesn’t matter that much at all

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It

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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earnest olive no

Would a 750w gold MSI power supply be better than the corsair RM750 I can get the MSI for $98 Does it really matter? Would a corsair fit better in my case? Basically the same price

stoic island Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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A-GF > RM if that's what you're asking about

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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msi a-gf should be better than rm750

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if they're the same price get msi a-gf

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Alright ill get the MSI then. I can also get my Evo 970 1tb m.2 for $110 which is nice

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:12 AM

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you also finally get to tell your parents you got a gf

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:14 AM

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@earnest olive

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Hilarious

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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You think a MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card is a good graphics card

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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for what price

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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$1000

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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including tax?

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Yes

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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ehh, it's alright

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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earnest olive i don't even settle for 3200c16 in $300 builds

Say I was eyeing 3200 CL 16 gskill & t-force vulcan Z. Go for ballistix?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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not a great deal not a bad deal

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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So a decent deal

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 AM

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strong raft Say I was eyeing 3200 CL 16 gskill & t-force vulcan Z. Go for ballistix?

5600G/5700G IMC is nothing like other ryzen

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go straight for 4400c19 patriot viper

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 AM

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For me on intel, my bad z590 & i5/i7.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 AM

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those chips will do 2200-2300 fclk

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oh

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just depends on how much you want to spend

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and whether or not you want to do manual ram oc

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Idc about oc or not, but thought $150 max for 32GB & perhaps save a bit just by doing 16GB

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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$150 can easily afford 32gb

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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So

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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oc matters, buying recommendations will be completely different lol

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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What I am getting here is get fast boi ram

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 AM

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yes

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Is patriot a good company I have never heard them

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w98bt6/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bda cheapest 32gb 3200c16 available

Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Haha, I've just seen how ram oc is way less easy than cpu/gpu oc

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 AM

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little osprey Is patriot a good company I have never heard them

They’re average

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc good kit for just running xmp

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Not bad but not super good

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BZwqqs/gskill-ripjaws-v-series-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl14-memory-f4-3200c14d-32gvk good kit for oc

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Patriot seems better in the ddr2 days tbh

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 AM

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brand of ram doesn't matter

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patriot doesn't manufacture the memory modules

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only the pcb and heatspreader

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underneath it's all hynix, micron, or samsung

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I think hynix is best iirc

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 AM

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even oloy has b-die kits

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only for ddr5

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also there's plenty of variation in the products from each manufacturer

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samsung b-die is the best of ddr4

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i have samsung a-die sodimms that can't even run 3200c16

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with a manual oc

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 AM

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@earnest olive

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Tell me if this is a good pc

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System Builder - Core i9-11900K 3.5 GHz 8-Core, GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING X TRIO, CRUSADER-F-BK ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 AM

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you didn't send the correct url

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Oops

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Ye the lists empty

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Never heard of that case

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Hold on

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:25 AM

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earnest olive https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-36...

Thnx for all links. I was thinking this but the 3200 version. Decent price and $20 over SP is ok for maybe better warranty.

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:25 AM

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SP?

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warranty on ram is basically a nonfactor

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it either works or it doesn't

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Silicon power im presuming

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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ah

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Oh and just deal with newegg or wherever? 👍

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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warranty on ram is always lifetime cause they almost never break

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Unless it's user error

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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kenzie: is that a challenge?

worn wave Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Where is Kenzie

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He has not chatted in awhile

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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lmao

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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It ain’t working it’s acting stupid

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Ye i havent seen kenzie here in like 4 days

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Kenzie is oddly quiet lately

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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aang bends air

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katara bends water

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Here I am with maybe 1 actually hardware issue in a decade & 2nd guessing choices so much kekw Yikers

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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kenzie bends ram

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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obsidian wigeon Kenzie is oddly quiet lately

Probably broke pc

worn wave Dec 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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I broke a stick of RAM in half a few days ago, it was some crappy 4 GB DDR4 stick

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It was completely dead

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:28 AM

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kenzie the ram bender

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:28 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFkBfP

System Builder

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Their we go

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:29 AM

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You dont need to buy thermal paste

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Cpu already comes with some

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I’m just buying some for extra when I change it out

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:30 AM

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That psu is overpriced

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:30 AM

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3600c18 bad

worn wave Dec 31, 2021, 2:30 AM

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You were recommended the MSI A-GF over the RM750 earlier

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Get this one

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Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro Series EA750G Pro 750W Semi-Modular, 80 PLUS GOLD, 120mm Silent Fan, PhaseWave Design, 7 Year Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GFQVR4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CBP12FZWER4D6W3NSY5P

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earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:30 AM

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cooler not enough

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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A tier psu

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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thats more expensive than the rm750 lol

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Wdym

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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$95

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twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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The rm 750 was $120

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Ohhh

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:31 AM

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mikey

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Isnt the 750 c tier?

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:33 AM

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what?

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did you just call an rm750 C tier

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O_O

twin sedge Dec 31, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Nvm

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:35 AM

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untold beacon https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFkBfP

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6GTbh

System Builder

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:35 AM

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I should have said that I already have the cpu cooler

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Whoops

earnest olive Dec 31, 2021, 2:35 AM

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well

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it's not going to handle overclocking the 11900K very well

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but i guess you can do stock gaming with it

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Ya

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I can also change out the parts later to

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https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd6VTDpr/

urban oyster Dec 31, 2021, 2:41 AM

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I think this is more of a build chat discussion

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Is the 200 dollar price jump from 4x16 3000 cl15 to 3200 cl14 worth it?

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:45 AM

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nah

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just oc your existing kit

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if you have the time that is

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 2:47 AM

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earnest olive 3600c18 bad

Even though same overall latency as 3200 c16, at least that's what I though. Dang it ram companies.

urban oyster Dec 31, 2021, 2:48 AM

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My current kit is well... horrid

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Horrific doesn't even describe it

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:48 AM

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oof

urban oyster Dec 31, 2021, 2:49 AM

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It's running at 2400 mhz cl19 overclocked

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Oof

urban oyster Dec 31, 2021, 2:49 AM

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It's that bad folks

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Without heat spreaders

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It's a tragedy

mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 2:50 AM

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ive got a random kit of hp ram with meh heat spreaders

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i could prolly oc it but im too lazy for ram tuning

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3600c18

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could get better timings probably

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:55 AM

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So, I asked some buddies what their opinion was. They said get the Ripjaw 3600 CL16. And I found a different mother board thats wifi and is normal ATX and has more ports. Second I am not %100 sure if I should get the Ryzen 7 or the Ryzen 5. Is it worth the extra $100?

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In total for everything except the GPU its $993

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Blackout first desktop 2022

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Here is the new list

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:57 AM

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ssd could be changed for sk hynix p31

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it's about as good as that samsung but cheaper

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 2:58 AM

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I would still go with the seagate

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But that another option as well

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 2:59 AM

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I can get this samsung for $110 from gamestop and the PSU for $98 on gamestop

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 2:59 AM

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hm

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fair then

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Mostly gaming? Ryzen 5 is probably a better idea.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:00 AM

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My guy

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You use benchmarks to compare the two

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 3:01 AM

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no gpu tho

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hence the g

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i would still do 5700g in this case

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Ya

obsidian wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 3:02 AM

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cause 5600g performs a lil meh

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 3:02 AM

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6core is the sweet sport, but some games or multitasking obviously 8core might be an idea

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:02 AM

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It is also $100ish cheaper

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I can always upgrade later

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:02 AM

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So just go with the 5700g

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Ok

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Wait 57 or 56?

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 3:03 AM

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I'd do 56 (6core). 8+ cores for now is when you know you want/need em. Tbh I don't know how the igpu compares between them, that's all

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:04 AM

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For extreme budget gaming, small form factor (SFF), and HTPC rigs, the Ryzen 5 5600G offers the lion's share of the more expensive 5700G's gaming performance, but at a much more palatable price point.

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The 5700g is more for gaming

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:05 AM

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The IGPU is really just to carry me till I get a GPU. so I think a 5600g would be okay for my use. Like I said anything is an upgrade than what I have now

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Just go with the 5600g for now

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And then upgrade later

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:06 AM

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^

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Thats what I was thinking.

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Is the IGPU any good?

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For somewhat gaming

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Atleast compared to a laptop 1050ti lol

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Older games & stuff w/ modest gtx levels

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Aight, well I guess we will see. I think im going to get 3600 cl16 Ripjaw 32gb

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Its expensive but it seems to be a good middle ground from what you guys were talking about

urban oyster Dec 31, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Cheesy ebay build you say >,>

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mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 3:10 AM

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little osprey Wait 57 or 56?

6000 series apus are coming out at CES on jan 4th

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unless you need the build immediately id wait to see pricing and performance on that

strong raft Dec 31, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Yeah, 6000 series cpu would be in a store a week after that, doubt it

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:11 AM

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mossy venture 6000 series apus are coming out at CES on jan 4th

Is the G going to be more than $350?

mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 3:11 AM

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no clue

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no leaks on pricing yet

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Should I buy everything except the CPU just to see if the 6000 series will be around that price?

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Or screw it and stay on track

mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 3:12 AM

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6000 series will use a different mobo im pretty sure

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:12 AM

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RIP

mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 3:12 AM

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idk, its your call

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if it was me id wait the 5 days

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Well if it was me

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I would probably do the same thing

storm harness Dec 31, 2021, 3:14 AM

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Well got everything together on my build but monitor is black, am I forgetting something? I'm using on-board Intel hdmi on a proz690a. No windows installed yet. Can't get to bios. Computer isn't beeping any codes at me

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:14 AM

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mossy venture 6000 series apus are coming out at CES on jan 4th

Does that mean its going to come out on the 4th or just get announced?

mossy venture Dec 31, 2021, 3:14 AM

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yes

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Yes

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:15 AM

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y e s

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Just see and wait for them to come out and then see if it is compatible with your motherboard or not

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And if it is buy it

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If it isn’t

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Just get a different motherboard

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Or get the cpu you were going to get from the beginning

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Tbh, I kinda just want to stay on track and if its coming out whatever.

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:16 AM

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At

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Alright

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I probably couldnt get one because they are new and you know people with new PC stuff.

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Its gets STUPID VERY FAST

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Well cpus they can keep in stock

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But graphics cards

little osprey Dec 31, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Heh maybe

untold beacon Dec 31, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Oh boy