#building-and-recc-chat

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errant fiber
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i quit because whenever id play on megas id lag

stoic island
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How did it do beforehand? That bit was left out

woeful plinth
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might be worth trying a new psu?

stoic island
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What PSU is it

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And right now I'd start with looking at the ram

woeful plinth
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Corsair RM Series, RM850, 850 Watt, 80+

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i tested with my old ram kit and it did crash

stoic island
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Should be fine, and well, might as well just clear cmos

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Clear cmos is useful for just resetting all the settings for testing

woeful plinth
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to do that i have to pull the lil battery from the mobo for 10 min right?

stoic island
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Unplug from wall, take out cmos battery

woeful plinth
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yeah, will try thanks!

stoic island
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5 min should do fine, you can do 10 if you want to

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Also, after you clear cmos, don't turn xmp back on

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Xmp is one of the things that could be causing instability here

woeful plinth
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sounds good!

stable tinsel
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Why does my pc blue screen after downloading games

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I can't figure out why after that it fixes itself

strong raft
# stoic island What PSU is it

100% gpu crashed their pc. Perhaps furmark or similar could duplicate the issue. Of course might still be ram as you mentioned

stable tinsel
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The games run no problem after that

lofty tundra
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Alright i put my gpu from my prebuilt into my new build. Do i enable it somewhere in bios?

woeful plinth
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am thinking it is the psu

woeful plinth
stoic island
stoic island
woeful plinth
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is it possible that the outlet is not giving the pc enough power? i have a few things pluged in the same outlet

stoic island
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plug straight into the wall instead of using extenders if possible, and if the PC is drawing too much straight from the wall, it'd trip a breaker in the house

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@woeful plinth btw, any other symptoms and anything in event viewer?

lofty tundra
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Fk.. help pls

stoic island
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?

lofty tundra
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I disabled my cpu integrated graphics because i put my graphics card from my prebuilt in and now i can’t get any graphics.

lofty tundra
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Idk why my gpu isn’t displaying graphics or how to get my cpu graphics back.

stoic island
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take the GPU out and clear cmos, that should get you iGPU back

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but why your GPU isn't outputting anything, who knows

lofty tundra
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Its a 1080 i just put it into the pins on the board and plugged it in. I mean is there anything more to it?

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That’s how it was in on my prebuilt.

strong raft
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Oh yeah I meant to say that psu could be issue and just doing 100% gpu in a game is partly what did it

strong raft
lofty tundra
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Ahh could i have needed drivers and stuff first? I thought you had to get it setup and have graphics for it to display.

woeful plinth
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Testing pluged from the wall, will see what happens

lofty tundra
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Like plugged in and stuff and it would display and then you update drivers.

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Wait wtf?

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Just shut down and rebooted and now i have graphics coming from it? After the 3rd reboot wtf?

woeful plinth
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i hope it doesnt crash and that it was the issue

rancid lodge
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Okay got a weird issue with my build I’m working on rn

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Got a M.2 (MP-E 500GB) and whenever I put it into the mobo and try to boot the screen is black

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Like not no signal black but just black

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Take it out and I boot to BIOS fine

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Started happening after I installed windows on it

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no matter what I do if I put the M.2 in it goes black screen

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Also the computer will start to power cycle a few times before boot light comes on but it doesn’t do this consistently*

willow crown
rancid lodge
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“For AMD” is just a marketing thing, was mostly for AMD 5000’s release iirc

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3600 CL18 is a bit meh depending on the CPU though

willow crown
willow crown
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i5-12600k

rancid lodge
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Uh yeah you’ll probably want CL16 instead

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DDR5 is early adopter funny rn so

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Okay yeah that specific kit on Newegg doesn’t do 2x8 3600 CL16

willow crown
rancid lodge
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It’ll say if it’s CL16 or CL18

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Lower CL = better

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So you’ll want to look for CL16 3600 prob

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Not sure about Intel 12th gen tbh but I’d assume it is hungrier for faster memory

dusty peak
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I got some thermal compound in the cpu socket- how bad is it? Its barely even visible and very contained but its in there

rancid lodge
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It’s usually non conductive

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You’ll be fine, clean it out with something non conductive as well

thorn trout
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does anyone have time to look at some parts i have picked out? Just looking for a couple opinions

rancid lodge
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Just be careful if it’s a Intel mobo

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Don’t damage the pins

dusty peak
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Appreciate it, i have no idea how it got in 💀

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Its amd btw

rancid lodge
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okay yeah should be easier

rancid lodge
rancid lodge
vagrant crest
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1300-1700

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1300-1700

strong raft
thorn trout
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im looking for suggestions and my budget is around 500$

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its just for casual gaming

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nothing too serious, its gonna be my first pc

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but im looking for improvements

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I also need a CPU and a graphics card

vagrant crest
mossy venture
vagrant crest
mossy venture
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11400 is good price/perf

vagrant crest
obsidian wigeon
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what sw?

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gotta know the exact use case

vague oracle
vagrant crest
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FSX 2020.

vagrant crest
vague oracle
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As in the golf simulator?

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Yeah stick with intel/Nvidia for that

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A buddy of mine has a 3700x and has problems with FSX 2020 because of it

obsidian wigeon
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oof

vagrant crest
brittle spindle
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So my friend built a computer and his keyboard and mouse are lighting up but no signal to TV. He has a red devil RX 580, which do have a history of not booting up to TVs first try, especially with HDMI. So we are thinking he try VGA first.

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We checked RAM, used one stick, moved it to every slot. Checked CPU. No broken pins. No disconnected cables as far as we are concerned. Everything lights up and spins when turned on.

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We even re-seated the GPU and M.2

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No luck

flint sapphire
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And I’m assuming there’s no post code or diagnosis light

brittle spindle
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I fixed it yesterday I got it to boot to BIOS and we installed Windows...he has a ASUS Prime b560 Plus

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but his brothers and dad keep messing with it and every time they do they mess up the computer somehow...both times it hasnt started after they touched it

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but now it just doesnt boot at all no signal at least

flint sapphire
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Thats weird af. You should see if just plugging into a different video output will make it work (different monitor)

earnest olive
glacial umbra
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would I be able to run a 3070 + 5600x on 550w (seasonic focus GM) or should I play it a bit safer with 650-750?

sand falcon
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Do you already have the PSU?

glacial umbra
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yeah received it as a christmas gift

frank stirrup
limber isle
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yup

frank stirrup
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It should be fine on a 550w

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But dont count on it

sand falcon
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I think it'd be fine, but it's tight

glacial umbra
glacial umbra
frank stirrup
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Smart

limber oyster
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What's a good name brand PCIE USB 3.0/3.2 USB hub? Atleast 5 USB-A ports preferabe

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Under $50 preferably too, can go lower # of slots or a reputable off-brand as well

fossil cedar
dull rampart
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Hey, I have a 3070 and 5900x (just got the 5900x on Christmas day) and a focus px 750, do you think I have enough headroom to OC my GPU by a decent margin? My temps on gpu max at 68c rn, and CPU max at 73c under full load. I would assume I have the headroom for it, but I figured I’d ask first so I don’t crash my pc and enter bios.

frank stirrup
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Its fine

dull rampart
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Thanks

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Bought the 750 hoping for some OC headroom

vague oracle
vagrant crest
dull rampart
vagrant crest
dull rampart
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Alright, understood. Your choice. That being said, desktops are quite easy to move since they usually only take a few cords, but space can be an understandable issue.

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To be honest with you, cyberpowerPC is a great brand.

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Very underrated.

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Don’t look at more heavily overrated brands such as Alienware, you’ll notice the pricing difference, not to mention, cyber power sends their Pc/laptops bloatware free, unlike dell.

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Just an option here even, relatively decent pricing.

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The only thing I don’t really like about that laptop is the CPU, not a big fan of the 11800h.

dull rampart
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That also only has 512 ssd, laptop storage expandability is questionable at best, other than that, that laptop is pretty good too.

vagrant crest
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I’m very new in the gaming PC world, so I’m very open to ideas, I was suggested Check this out on @Newegg: Gigabyte AORUS 15P Gaming & Entertainment Laptop (Intel i7-11800H 8-Core, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080), NVIDIA RTX 3060, Wifi, Bluetooth, Webcam, 1xHDMI, Win 10 Home) https://www.newegg.com/p/2WC-000Z-00AT3?Item=9SIA7ABFEM4022&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA7ABFEM4022-_-12272021 from a friend, who isn’t the most tech savvy but knows more than I do.

dull rampart
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I have nothing against the 11800h, I just think something like the 11700h would be better if they release it.

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Or 12th gen laptop processors when they’re released.

vague oracle
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How would it be better if it’s not even out yet

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As far as I know there wasn’t even an announcement that they are releasing it

dull rampart
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There isn’t.

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What I’m saying is the MSRP on the 11800h is very high for an 8 core 16 thread chip.

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$400

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11700h would also be 8c16t if it were released, but presumably more at the $330 price range.

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Just as 12th gen will most likely (I’m not 100% sure on this) introduce efficiency cores to laptop processors.

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Not saying that the 11800h is a bad chip by any means, just quite a high price point for its class.

fossil cedar
dull rampart
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You seemingly ignored everything else I said though

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It’s a good cpu for right now, and if you need a laptop now, it’s a good purchase, but in the next few months you can (again, presumably) get similar performance for far less money, or greater performance for around the same.

fossil cedar
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Laptop CPUs don't matter a huge amount msrp wise because only the whole laptop price counts anyway

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Also what would the hypothetical 11700h even be?

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There's been no leeks of it to my knowledge

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I mean if we're talking like that then we could just say the 11900k would be better if it didn't suck xD

dull rampart
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Yes that’s true, it’s an endless road of that happening, so saying to “hold out for the next generation” sounds absolutely dumb, but it should be released by February, because CES is coming soon, and they should announce them then.

fossil cedar
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Yeah but that's 2 months away

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Sure if you have something atm you can wait but it's not fun to wait that long if you don't have anything

dull rampart
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Not specifically referring to this article, but an example is this.

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6p cores, 8e cores, more threads, all around better.

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And it should be released late January.

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Never recommended against buying an 11800h, but if someone is able to wait just a few months, they’ll get quite a bit more.

fossil cedar
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Too be honest the gaming performance probably wont be a huge jump

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Sure multi core and battery life will be better with e cores

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But gaming is pretty reliant on single core so core count isn't really a big factor

obsidian wigeon
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And e-cores causes issues with older games

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The damn drms, gah

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I'm sure e-cores will be able to be disabled in bios at least, but still

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Painful

limber oyster
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Personally, I have a i7-11800H and my 7 3700x has better performance

rugged sparrow
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That isn’t open box

rugged sparrow
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I mean they are open box

frank stirrup
rugged sparrow
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There is that but how hard is it to take care of liquid cooling

rugged sparrow
frank stirrup
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30 day return policy

desert gulch
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Just put it in the right orientation and spray the dust out of the fins once in a while

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If custom loop then yeah itl have some maintenance, but I'm assuming you're talking aio

frank stirrup
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Rather have an air cooler

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Lol

rugged sparrow
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I just found this and idk if this is good it is 400 dollars off

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Buy Skytech Gaming Shiva Gaming PC GeForce RTX 3070 GPU AMD Ryzen 3700X CPU 16GB RAM 1TB SSD at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and more.

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It looks like it will be hot

frank stirrup
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Yeah its gonna be very hot

rugged sparrow
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I am trying to find a computer that has an rtx 3070 and has good cooling

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And that isn’t way overpriced

frank stirrup
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I sent you 2

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Ones below 1500$

rugged sparrow
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Ya I saw

frank stirrup
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Hdmi or display port

rugged sparrow
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Ok

rugged sparrow
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@frank stirrup

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Would that be ok cooking

frank stirrup
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Id still get the 10700k one

rugged sparrow
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What 10700K

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Are you talking about the 9700K?

stable tinsel
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My pc keeps blue screening after playing games and cannot fix it

stable tinsel
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none

fossil cedar
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I don't that's possible

frank stirrup
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Yeah no

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There has to be one

stable tinsel
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on the moba no blinking lights

frank stirrup
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On the blue screen

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There will be an error code

stable tinsel
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it says windos earror

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and then restarts

frank stirrup
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That on the bottom is the error code

stable tinsel
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yes

frank stirrup
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What does that say

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For you

uncut pelican
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Thoughts on the Toshiba N300 for a Nas?

sand falcon
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Very good drive

sand falcon
uncut pelican
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I bought one actually

sand falcon
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Nice

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It's one of the best drives out there

uncut pelican
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It was dead upon arrival unfortunately so I returned it

sand falcon
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Dang

uncut pelican
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But thank you 👍

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I'll probs grab one today

hazy wadi
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6

thin oar
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what’s the difference between 1440p and 1080p

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and is over clocking a monitor worth it

earnest olive
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don't even think about 1440p with your 1060 3gb

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and overclocking monitor is only worth it going from 60hz to 75hz

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no point on 144hz

oblique gull
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just build my first pc and everything seems to be running fine. but for some reason there is no input for my monitor. any ideas? (and yes i did see if it was connected to the gpu. it is.)

earnest olive
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by running fine you mean fans spinning lights on?

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first step is to try unplugging and replugging the monitor cable on both ends

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fans spinning lights on does NOT guarantee running fine though - system can fail boot and still have fan spin

oblique gull
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but imma double check by plugging and unplugging the monitor

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does this mean something?

earnest olive
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that's a boot fail

oblique gull
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i feel it does but i’m too stupid

earnest olive
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look closer

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each light there has a label

oblique gull
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ohhh i see

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anything bad?

earnest olive
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which label? it looks like VGA to me

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but pic isn't perfectly clear

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VGA means it got stuck initializing the graphics card

oblique gull
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what does that mean?

earnest olive
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graphics card no work

oblique gull
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better or nah?

earnest olive
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turn it off, turn the power supply off, pull out the graphics card, plug it back in, reseat the power cables to the graphics card

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then try turning it on again

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also pray that your graphics card is not dead bc that's the hardest part to replace right now

oblique gull
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i got it from mc

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with warranty

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so idc about that

earnest olive
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oh

oblique gull
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just need to get this over with cuz i have plans tommrow

earnest olive
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well do what I said if it doesn't work take it back

thin oar
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just curious

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like bumping it up to 1440p on my 1060

earnest olive
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expect fps to drop

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a lot

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lol

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even more than usual since 3gb vram

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maybe single digit fps in AAA games

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I got 20 fps in ac valhalla with a 1060 6gb at 1440p

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and the vram was at 100% usage

oblique gull
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also yeah btw i tried to get the gpu out but the wires seem stuck on

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but everything else a tried didnt work so it seems i might have a dead gpu

earnest olive
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even my 3080 struggles with that game

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gets like 80 fps at 1440p high

thin oar
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games seem to run quite well

earnest olive
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maybe if you're playing league of legends

thin oar
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Im not unfortunately

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not a game I’m actually that interested in

earnest olive
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must be a really old or undemanding title to run well at 1440p on a 3gb 1060

thin oar
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I don’t play many AAA games so I should be fine

earnest olive
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1440p has higher vram demands

thin oar
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I know

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I’m on apex legends and I’m getting mid 90’s

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Medium settings

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High 50’s to low 60’s on gta at high settings

little osprey
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anyone know how many frames a r9 5900hx + 3070 laptop would get in different games

thin oar
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If playing at high settings then most likely 60fps+

mossy venture
thin oar
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oh is it

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damn

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I didn’t know that

little osprey
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oh alr

oblique gull
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now i’m not good at organization but does this management look good?

earnest olive
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if it closes, it's good enough

jagged hill
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not too bad

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mine has no management

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i use the main side panel to manage my cables instead

hazy wadi
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yo guys most m.2 nvme gen 3 ssds (dram cache or not) will be relatively better than a 6 year old sata III 2.5 ssd right?
ofc generally speaking

obsidian wigeon
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Yes, much better

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Just an sn550 is noticeably faster lol

oblique gull
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dam it’s not closing. might of done a bad job lol

little osprey
lofty tundra
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I'm getting these stats on my cpu and I am only running visual studio code, discord, and a few tabs of edge. Isn't this pretty high for the cpu?

lofty tundra
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It's just like a text editor.

mossy venture
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ah

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what cpu and what cooler

lofty tundra
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12700k and nzxt kraken z73

mossy venture
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odd

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im not sure about 12th gen temps but that doesnt sound right

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are you sure you applied thermal paste properly?

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and do you have decent case airflow?

lofty tundra
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I just used the pre applied thermal paste from the cooler.

mossy venture
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what?

lofty tundra
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and I have 6 fans in my case.

mossy venture
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though that wont make a huge difference

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what do you mean by pre applied

lofty tundra
mossy venture
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i would switch 3 to outtake

topaz kestrel
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negative air pressure gonna be oofing ur case 😳

lofty tundra
lofty tundra
jagged ember
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it means the hot air has nowhere to go

topaz kestrel
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^

mossy venture
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yeah that thermal paste i dont think is decent

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i would reccomend redoing it

jagged ember
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so it stays all inside your case

topaz kestrel
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oofing ur cpu

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and gpu

jagged ember
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preapplied paste is fone

lofty tundra
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I just figured it would get pushed out the back.

jagged ember
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I'd worry about airflow first

jagged ember
lofty tundra
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But yeah did seem a lil toasty in there forsure. I thought it seemed kinda hot in my case.

jagged ember
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do a front intake and rear exhaust

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top exhaust too, probably

topaz kestrel
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do the 3 on the front as intake and 3 in the back as exhaust

jagged ember
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assuming your aio is top mounted

lofty tundra
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This is the setup. All fans face in.

earnest olive
lofty tundra
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3 on top and 3 on the side.

lofty tundra
topaz kestrel
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bruh

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you said ur cpu

earnest olive
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that's gpu temps not cpu temps lmao

lofty tundra
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Wut? It said cpu temps.

topaz kestrel
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since when did gpu-z track cpu temps

earnest olive
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since when do cpu temps come with an adjustment range

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lol

lofty tundra
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Oh actually nowhere do i see cpu temps

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Idk where i got that

topaz kestrel
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just use hwinfo

lofty tundra
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Lol oops.

topaz kestrel
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wait no

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i dont think hwinfo tells temps

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never actually checked

earnest olive
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but yes if your gpu is at 83C with nothing demanding running then something is very seriously wrong

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what

jagged ember
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what

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have you

earnest olive
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hwinfo is THE temp monitoring software

topaz kestrel
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ok it does

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use that

jagged ember
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actually used hwinfo?

earnest olive
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that's like saying you don't think intel sells cpus

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🗿

jagged ember
lofty tundra
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Is that like hwmonitor?

earnest olive
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hwmonitor is trash

jagged ember
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idk what you're on about

earnest olive
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hwinfo is hwmonitor except it actually works

jagged ember
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hwinfo good

lofty tundra
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I'm just watching a jayztwocentz vid about what monitoring softwares I should have on my pc.

earnest olive
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oh god

jagged ember
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oof

earnest olive
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don't watch jay for information

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please lord

jagged ember
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he ain't good for info yeah

earnest olive
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if you want to watch jay watch his water cooling videos and nothing else

jagged ember
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ltt isn't either

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well, nothing in depth

lofty tundra
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So hwinfo you said?

ebon fulcrum
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y’all wtf is this

earnest olive
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lol what

jagged ember
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wack

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what is that?

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or, who?

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who is that

earnest olive
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michaelsoft moment

topaz kestrel
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i'd imagine you didnt clear an sdd correctly and installed it with a defaultuser permissions lol

earnest olive
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..what

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🗿

topaz kestrel
ebon fulcrum
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🧍apparently i need to reinstall? that’s what other people said

earnest olive
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probably yeah

ebon fulcrum
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but how do i even fo that, i need a step by step guide

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google confoosing

earnest olive
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use bios to boot override into windows installer

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where that is located depends on what brand motherboard you have

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you will need a usb with at least 8gb that you can wipe

earnest olive
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I can't tell the capacity from that lol

topaz kestrel
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well its a windows install usb so i imagine it already has media tool on it

earnest olive
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you'll also need access to another working computer

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oh I didn't see the logo in the phone preview

ebon fulcrum
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🧍 ok i’ll just take this pc to my house, and i go from there

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sigh

earnest olive
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well I've never used one of those but I imagine it's the same

ebon fulcrum
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reinstalling windows is my biggest enemy

earnest olive
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just plug it in

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and reboot to bios

topaz kestrel
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you dont need another pc since you have the windows install on that usb

lofty tundra
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CPU is at 84 degrees f. So nvm think it's fine then. Was jw why it was sitting at 106 degrees on the cooler but ig you have to reopen the app for it to start moving again to what it is actually at.

ebon fulcrum
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oh

earnest olive
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god please never talk about temperatures in F

topaz kestrel
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^^^

ebon fulcrum
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uh

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why not f

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what’s with f

topaz kestrel
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its just wrong and confuses people

earnest olive
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nobody talks about PC part temperatures in F

lofty tundra
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Literally someone told me the only way to measure cpu temps is in f yesterday in this chat.

topaz kestrel
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nothing is wrong with 106f but alot is wrong with 106c

earnest olive
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who lol

lofty tundra
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Yesterday or two days ago.

topaz kestrel
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"who lol"

earnest olive
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that's not who

lofty tundra
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I don't remember

earnest olive
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well they're wrong

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literally everyone uses C

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except for that person apparently

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there's a reason why everything is in C by default

ebon fulcrum
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@earnest olive oh my, now it’s a black screen again i sob , i already did a CMOS

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what MORE DO YOU EANT FROM ME ARGHHH

earnest olive
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you're black screening from trying to get into bios?

topaz kestrel
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?

ebon fulcrum
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i was about to enter bios but it black screened on me

earnest olive
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🗿

ebon fulcrum
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it was in the shift + restart place

topaz kestrel
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?

ebon fulcrum
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it’s blue screen… with troubleshooting etc

topaz kestrel
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isnt shift restart for safe mode?

ebon fulcrum
#

you also enter bios through there

topaz kestrel
#

:/

earnest olive
#

sounds like PC is not having a good time

ebon fulcrum
#

it isn’t

#

i didn’t go through these issues with my own pc so i’m crying inside

#

debug lights tho start red with cpu though

#

and orange with dram

topaz kestrel
#

you tried reseating ram?

#

the omega fix to everything

ebon fulcrum
#

switching em?

topaz kestrel
#

:/

#

reseating

#

take out

#

put back in

ebon fulcrum
#

switching could also be reseating darn 🙄🙄

topaz kestrel
#

no switching is switching

#

reseating is reseating

#

🙄 🙄

ebon fulcrum
#

ugh 🙄 well ur reseating didn’t do SHET /joking

#

but no it didn’t do anything

humble rock
#

Hey I’m throwing a build together with a B560 torpedo and a 10400f with a 6600xt. I have a 550 watt psu a Corsair cv 550 does it matter that there’s only one 8pin for the cpu and the mobo has a 8 and a 4 pin

worn wave
#

You only need the single 8pin

humble rock
#

That’s what I thought it only has a 65 watt tdp for the cpu

flint sapphire
#

@void raft sorry for the ping we literally got the same tablet for Christmas, twinning. Love the setup btw Clapping

void raft
#

I'm so stoked to use it for my CAD work!

ionic ivy
#

How do I connect all the pins for the seasonic focus?

rose breach
stoic island
earnest olive
#

pretty much everything but the case

#

and CPU/GPU I guess

stoic island
#

To start, extra fans aren't really necessary, and if you want RGB fans, Corsair is not the way to go if you like your wallet

earnest olive
#

corsair 02puke

#

it's not just about the wallet

stoic island
#

Next, Corsair ram is just sad for the price, I'd just go ballistix, you can go for ballistix rgb if you want

earnest olive
#

it's about having to use icue lol

stoic island
#

Wallet and iCUE eats all of your CPU and memory

earnest olive
#

corsair rgb is the only rgb that has a serious performance impact on your pc

stoic island
#

And its just meh in terms of quality and performance

stoic island
earnest olive
#

corsair ram isn't just sad for the price it's sad in general with how often it can't do a not-very-aggressive xmp profile

stoic island
#

meant not white but anyways

topaz kestrel
#

lol

rose breach
#

i see

earnest olive
#

corsair in general is just a hard avoid besides a select few cases and power supplies

rose breach
#

ah

stoic island
rose breach
#

wow i made a lot of mistakes lol

stoic island
#

not that Corsair actually makes the PSUs, like RMx is based off CWT GPU, and another CWT GPU PSU, Revolution d.f., is 110$ for 850w, so yaknow

earnest olive
#

everyone starts somewhere

#

at least you asked

#

you don't want to know how many people buy some garbage then ask if it's good then any suggestions for changes are made with "well I already bought it"

earnest olive
#

but sometimes there are some good sales on good corsair psus

#

like when the txm650 was $50

stoic island
#

(was pointing out Corsair being overpriced compared to basically the exact same product)

earnest olive
#

🥶

#

txm650 for $50 is a cop for any budget-midrange build

stoic island
topaz kestrel
#

🥵

stoic island
#

I mean formula gold

earnest olive
#

my txm750 shrugs off a 3080 and a 3070 at the same time

#

no problem

stoic island
#

one of the bitfenix PSUs, its all CWT GPU PSUs so anyways

stoic island
earnest olive
#

lol I remember the guy that hammered a ryzen 7 2700x into z390

stoic island
#

sad days

worn wave
#

Did that actually happen?

earnest olive
#

or the guy that drilled holes into his flagship GPU then made it explode

rose breach
#

rip

earnest olive
#

yes i saw it with my own eyes

earnest olive
#

I wish I didn't

stoic island
#

rip

#

I mean, didn't buildzoid blow up a 6900xt or smth

earnest olive
#

yeah but probably not for the same reason lol

worn wave
#

Couple days ago I accdiently shoved a opteron into a motherboard and bent pins

earnest olive
#

this guy was trying to liquid cool his 980ti

worn wave
#

I somehow did not know the pins were bent and I tried to shove it in

earnest olive
#

and asked on a forum if he could drill new cooler mounting holes cause the cooler he had didn't quite fit

#

everyone said NO

#

he did it anyways and complained the gpu was no longer working

earnest olive
#

then he asked if he could use his screwdriver to bridge the hole he drilled

#

everyone said NO that's dangerous

#

he did it anyways and it exploded

topaz kestrel
#

lol

earnest olive
#

then he posted a pic where he broke it in half out of rage

stoic island
#

rip

earnest olive
#

some people are just too stupid to be helped

vague oracle
earnest olive
#

when you ask and 16 people say NO but you do it anyways and what they said would happen happens

#

imagine if it was an evga w1

vague oracle
#

I ended up buying an HX750

earnest olive
#

not too shabby

vague oracle
#

I didn’t even look at wattage or anything hehe

earnest olive
#

ngl I did something similar for case and mb

#

I didn't know the differences between cases and mbs

#

so I just looked for some with good reviews

vague oracle
#

Mobo i searched best motherboard for gaming

earnest olive
#

ended up with an alright mb and a terrible case

vague oracle
#

Ended up with a crosshair VIII Hero/3700x bundle for $400

earnest olive
#

lmao

#

me overclocking 3700xs in b450 pro4s

vague oracle
#

Now that I think about it a lot of things I did back in the day were really stupid

earnest olive
#

same

vague oracle
#

When upgrading ram I typed into Amazon gaming RAM

#

And bought the first one I saw

earnest olive
#

why did I buy a corsair 275r non-airflow

#

my poor 1080ti was screaming at 92C

worn wave
#

I bought an H500 couple years ago

#

I never even used it

#

I ended up just giving it to a friend

stoic island
#

Looking at google, just gotta hope people don't pick the first option they see

earnest olive
#

that case was probably worse than h510

#

I took off the front panel and gpu temps dropped by more than 10c

vague oracle
#

I “upgraded” from 16gb 3000mhz cl16 to 32gb3000mhz cl15

stoic island
#

yes

#

Only thing good there is CX-F

#

Oh and ion gold

earnest olive
#

lol I recently learned why so much cheap crap has blue LEDs

vague oracle
#

What about the smart buy? Isn’t it a smart buy?

vague oracle
earnest olive
#

apparently way back in the day blue LEDs were the most difficult and expensive to make

mossy venture
#

Question for yall that is completely unrelated to this, a lot of smart people just happen to be here: are there any speculations on the tdp of next gen gpus?

earnest olive
#

so seeing blue LEDs on products conveyed a sense of premium-ness

worn wave
#

Ah yes, epic floppies

mossy venture
#

Or any guesses yall have?

earnest olive
mossy venture
#

450w rumors?

earnest olive
#

we already have AIB models this gen exceeding 450w

#

yeah I've heard some rumors of 450w tdp on the 40 series flagship

mossy venture
#

I bought a 650w rmx since it was 40$ cheaper than the 750/850

earnest olive
#

nothing with substance but I wouldn't be surprised lol

mossy venture
#

And have been thinking about upgradability

earnest olive
#

nvidia feels like they need to outcompete amd

#

so they are pushing the cards hard

mossy venture
#

Yeah

earnest olive
#

30 series is already pushed so far past optimal efficiency level

mossy venture
#

And then amd will respond

still roostBOT
#
Haze#5259 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

earnest olive
#

why you can decrease power draw by like 100w and still only lose like 5% perf

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

sigh

#

why do all the spammers come when I'm on mobile

mossy venture
#

Or a sub generation, if that makes sense

earnest olive
#

it's so difficult to ban on mobile

earnest olive
#

it was pascal

#

lol

mossy venture
#

I mean with newer advancements

#

Would be nice to see low tdp cards with 30 series performance

earnest olive
#

that was only 2 generations ago

#

you can always undervolt a high end card anyways

mossy venture
#

True

earnest olive
#

quite a few people buying 3080s to run them at like 250w

mossy venture
#

Before I bought the new psu I would've bought a 3080 if I had the chance

#

Founders that is, from bb

#

And just sold mine

#

I guess I could just power limit it and still be fine

#

Now that you bring it up

earnest olive
#

I'm sure the people buying those blower 3090s are undervolting lol

mossy venture
#

Blower cards 🤮

earnest olive
#

have seen some blower 3090s being sold at premiums to sff builders

mossy venture
#

I'm curious as to the tdp of the desktop 3050

#

Might be a cheaper upgrade option for my SO instead of 6000 series apu

earnest olive
#

considering how high the 3060 is idk if it's going to be a 75w card

mossy venture
#

Just depends on their psu, I have yet to have them check it

earnest olive
#

3060 is 170w

#

1060 was 120w

mossy venture
#

Wait really?

#

3060 is that high?

#

I thought it was 150

#

Dropped my phone a bit

topaz kestrel
#

19 😳

earnest olive
#

check for yourself if ya don't believe me

#

19w lol

mossy venture
#

I didn't mean that as in I dont believe you

earnest olive
#

igpu moment

mossy venture
#

As in I didn't know that

topaz kestrel
#

potato energy moment

earnest olive
#

you can push some 3060s above 200w

mossy venture
#

My 3060 ti can only add 2% on pl lmao

#

I was surprised when someone said they can do 120%

earnest olive
#

my 3080 can add +0%

#

:)

mossy venture
#

I forget on what gpu

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

it's a 2x8 pin card

mossy venture
#

Ahh

earnest olive
#

so I am limited to 370W

mossy venture
#

Rip

earnest olive
#

vision oc

mossy venture
#

Would you run a 3600 and 3080 with a 75-80% pl on a 650w rmx?

earnest olive
#

lol you can do it at 100 pl

mossy venture
#

Only reason I'd buy it is to sell my card to a miner

earnest olive
#

3600x 3080 3070 ran fine on 650 focus gold

mossy venture
#

But thought it'd be too close

earnest olive
#

rmx is no slouch it can handle transients

mossy venture
#

Mm

#

Thanks

#

I'd still prolly pl a bit just to be safe, also because Temps on the FE vram isn't amazing

earnest olive
#

yeah FE kinda doodoo

mossy venture
#

All speculation

#

Low odds of me getting one off a bb drop anyways

earnest olive
#

repad mandatory

mossy venture
#

Oh sips

#

Because my psu is having issues

#

I currently have my case open with a room fan directly next to the pc pointing at the psu lmfao

earnest olive
#

🗿

#

ok maybe it won't run a 3080

#

what issues

mossy venture
#

The fan works

#

No it's an evga bq 750

earnest olive
#

oh

mossy venture
#

It's getting replaced by the rmx Thursday

#

The fan is being weird

#

Either rattling, off balance, or hitting smthn in the psu

earnest olive
#

I put a 500 gd in gf's build

mossy venture
#

I have rhe fan so the psu stays cool enough do the fan on the psu stays quiet

earnest olive
#

it was making a weird sound for a bit but stopped

#

probably coil whine

mossy venture
#

Because the fan noise is better than a ticking noise

#

Nah its not coil whine

#

I've verified it

earnest olive
#

not yours

#

gf's

mossy venture
#

Oh

#

Thought you meant the issue with hers was prolly the same one as mine

#

I wanted to buy another evga semi modular

#

To avoid recable managing

#

But the rmx was 65$

#

And no decent semi mod by evga is reasonably priced

earnest olive
#

gotta be careful... those cables may not be compatible anyways

mossy venture
#

Yeah

earnest olive
#

I had to buy a replacement pcie cable for a g3

#

it didn't list compatibility with b series

#

so

mossy venture
#

I had someone tell me they went from a corsair psu to a superflower

#

And kept the same cables

#

And it somehow works

earnest olive
#

unlikely you could keep the same cables between a bq and a g-whatever

mossy venture
#

That hurt me to hear

earnest olive
#

the corsair psu might be superflower oem

mossy venture
#

Yeah

#

Like the g2

#

I think

#

But evga

earnest olive
#

still not a good idea

mossy venture
#

Yeah

#

I'm not excited to redo that cable management

earnest olive
#

cable management isn't that hard better than risking a fire lol

#

I enjoy cable management

mossy venture
#

Yeah I just suck at focusing on one thing at once

earnest olive
#

most fun part of building a PC for me

mossy venture
#

I'll probably have my brother help me

earnest olive
#

nothing special about tossing some parts together so that they work

stoic island
#

G3 is a superflower leadex varient

earnest olive
#

cable management is where you get to express some skill

stoic island
#

G2 is also SF leadex

rose breach
#

i tried making a new part list without the white theme and the price dropped by like $600 lol

mossy venture
#

Oh orange

earnest olive
#

yeah the cable I bought said g3/g2/p2/etc

mossy venture
#

I hit 118wpm earlier

stoic island
#

Most corsair PSUs are CWT

earnest olive
mossy venture
#

I also hit 104wpm on a 13in laptop

earnest olive
#

it's just because you went with corsair

rose breach
#

man

earnest olive
#

I have a white build with 9 argb fans, internal monitor, custom laser engraved gpu bracket, RGB cables, the whole works

strong raft
earnest olive
#

same cpu and gpu

#

fit it all in for below $2000

mossy venture
#

3060 ti is 220 iirc

rose breach
mossy venture
#

My friends 3080 5800x build cost 1600$

#

He needs more case fans tho

rose breach
mossy venture
#

He got the 5800x for below msrp during the 5000 series shortage and 3080 asus tuf for msrp from bb

earnest olive
#

not a tuf and not from bb

#

when I said same GPU I meant same white model too lol

mossy venture
#

I wasn't talking about your build

earnest olive
#

oh

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

yeah

#

I prob could have gotten it around there if I didn't blow so much money on extras

#

but I don't mind

obsidian hull
#

Sup

mossy venture
#

I still wish I went custom

stoic island
#

oh yea the idcooling fans had a pricing error iirc?

earnest olive
#

every dollar I spent on making it look good was worth it to me

#

yeah

#

$3/each

#

pretty sick price

stoic island
#

otherwise could prob go for gelid stellas

earnest olive
#

filled out an o11 with argb fans for less than the price of a single corsair fan

mossy venture
#

He had a corsair something airflow I think

#

Looked to be a good case

earnest olive
#

and I can control them all with 0.0% CPU usage and 1.4mb ram

mossy venture
#

He just needs more fans, he currently only has two stock fans in there

earnest olive
#

thanks openrgb

mossy venture
#

It gets to 108c on vram while mining 🤮

stoic island
#

no rgb best rgb

mossy venture
#

I got a closed case so there's no rgb in mine

#

Well

earnest olive
#

yikes

stoic island
#

I feel like rgb is fun for a few days, then its just boring

mossy venture
#

You can see a bit of the rgb from the gpu through a mesh area lmao

earnest olive
#

I get 74-86c vram while mining depending on ambient temp

#

it's usually around 80

#

74c would be door open on a winter night

#

86c is midday summer

mossy venture
#

He should also repad

#

But he's scared to void the warranty

#

Which I don't think asus does for repadding

earnest olive
#

I live in literal hell so my ambient temps are hiiiigh

mossy venture
#

I got my gpu down to 25c earlier

#

Coulda gone lower

#

That was just with my mining settings

earnest olive
#

that's lower than my ambient temp in winter bro

mossy venture
#

If I turned fans up and pl down more it probably would've been under 20

earnest olive
#

I have to open the door sometimes cause it's too hot in my room

stoic island
#

MSI and EVGA for sure don't care, Asus prob wouldn't

earnest olive
#

my room ventilation is so bad

#

traps heat too easily

mossy venture
#

The ac doesn't work in my room

#

Gets so damn hot in the summer

#

Currently with my case open with 55% pl 65 on fans -502 core +1250 mem I get 46c on core while mining

earnest olive
#

last summer we had our AC break during a heat wave

#

I had to abandon my PC entirely

#

and hide downstairs

#

measured 106F room temp

mossy venture
#

Jesus

#

You live down south?

earnest olive
#

115F outside

#

cali

mossy venture
#

I'm by nyc

stoic island
#

cali on fire half the time so

mossy venture
#

In one of the do nothing states

earnest olive
#

yeah I remember one day waking up and outside was just o r a n g e

stoic island
#

Orange Mushroom invades California

earnest olive
#

cause of fire

#

never felt more strongly like I lived in hell than that moment lol

mossy venture
#

I can confidently say I've never seen a forest fire

#

But there is absolutely nothing to do in my state

#

Not that I'd rather live by forest fires

#

gender reveal fires

earnest olive
#

wildfires and earthquakes or hurricanes and snowstorms

#

pick your poison

mossy venture
#

We get very bad blizzards but that's about it

earnest olive
#

I wish I lived somewhere colder for overclocking purposes lol

mossy venture
#

We got three feet of snow in October one year

#

A tree fell on our house

earnest olive
#

yikes

#

snow doesn't exist here

stoic island
mossy venture
#

It wasn't the snow rhat was the issue

#

Just when it happened

earnest olive
#

put laptop in snow to run benchmark beehive_o_kekw

mossy venture
#

If we got three feet in December it'd be fine

#

Also normal

earnest olive
#

gonna melt the snow and kill the laptop

#

sad

mossy venture
#

Ima prolly move to Canada when I'm older

#

Not for temp purposes

#

For reasons I can't discuss in this server

earnest olive
#

should I take the offer

#

might have to learn french

#

lol

stoic island
#

free room, sure, get over there from time to time

#

quebec mainly english afaik

mossy venture
#

Every in CA speaks English

stoic island
#

just a few places that do speak french

mossy venture
#

French is more so a second language

earnest olive
#

yeah but I've heard a lot of quebecois refuse to speak english to people that look foreign

mossy venture
#

Just wear a goose on your head

#

Duct tape

earnest olive
#

ahh yes

mossy venture
#

Canadian goose

topaz kestrel
#

is this general chat #2 😳

mossy venture
#

Yes

#

Well

topaz kestrel
mossy venture
topaz kestrel
#

lol

earnest olive
#

branched off from a discussion about temps lol

#

but nobody actually needs help rn so not a big deal

topaz kestrel
#

to canada 😳

mossy venture
#

I need help

#

With trig

#

I really should catch up on my math work

#

But god I hate trig

#

WHY AM I EVEN DOING TRIG IN PRE CALC

#

PAIN

mossy venture
#

I'm taking stats next year

earnest olive
#

because trig is inseparably woven into calc

mossy venture
#

Not touching calculus again till college

earnest olive
#

calc without trig is like pc without cpu

#

it's not gonna turn on

mossy venture
#

I hate math

lofty tundra
#

wrong chat

mossy venture
#

And im going to need four years of it for what I want to do

topaz kestrel
mossy venture
#

In college

stoic island
earnest olive
#

fair

#

spherical integral moment

stoic island
#

sphere

mossy venture
strong raft
# mossy venture 3060 ti is 220 iirc

The point of 60 (ti) or lower used be a cooler sub-150w gpu & a couple sub-75w cableless models. Now Nvidia can toss out a 3050, 3040, 3030 or w/e. Yikers

mossy venture
#

I currently csnt even figure out how to do cos, sin, and tan stuff

#

I was good at math until algebra existed

#

Then I wanted to die

#

Also doesn't help that I skipped algebra 1

stoic island
#

b r u h

mossy venture
#

And didn't pay attention to alg2 and geometry

earnest olive
#

3060ti is 200w

#

3070 is 220w

earnest olive
#

it's actually a lot easier than it looks lol

#

calc 3 stuff

stoic island
#

multivariable calc?

earnest olive
#

it's pretty much just 3 integrals in a row

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

nah seriously

stoic island
#

I cannot remember how chain rule works for integrals soooo yea

earnest olive
#

it's not much harder than a single integral

mossy venture
#

You speak in tongues, witch

mossy venture
strong raft
earnest olive
#

wait until you have to find the volume of shapes that don't exist

#

4 dimensional objects

mossy venture
#

I can do radius and circumference

#

And diameter

#

That is as much geometry as I know

#

Not really but it's pretty bad

#

Idk how i passed alg 2 and geometry

stoic island
#

linear algebra looked quite fun from what I looked at

#

like the space of a matrix

mossy venture
#

I don't get why I need 2-4 years of math to be a nurse

#

Like

strong raft
mossy venture
#

You need basic math, yes

stoic island
#

It might and prob will become useful at some point

#

Best to know how it works

mossy venture
#

Fairly sure I don't need to find the hypotanuse of triangle c to give someone a cast

#

That came off ruder than I meant it

#

Sorry

stoic island
#

or smth wacky like that

#

tbh trig itself feels pretty useless, but the functions definitely have uses elsewhere

#

Identities are good

mossy venture
#

I currently have 70$ from hannukah to spend

#

I dont really need anything that I can think of

#

Maybe i should buy 280 sticky hands

earnest olive
#

RGB cables

#

done

mossy venture
#

Cooler master n400

#

Closed case with no glass panel

earnest olive
#

sad

mossy venture
#

Maybe I should buy a third wifi card

#

100%

strong raft
#

A third?

mossy venture
#

Currently use an internal and external together

#

Works surprisingly well

#

Can't use ethernet

mossy venture
#

?

#

It works

strong raft
#

Gears are turning in my head. Using 2 wifi adapters at once.

stable tinsel
#

I'm blue screen driver error

#

I don't know how to fix

strong raft
#

Error code, you give us, hmm

stable tinsel
#

Gpu driver error

mossy venture
strong raft
#

Hard to give help, it is, with no code

mossy venture
#

But the internal isn't very good

#

Together they're probably still not as good as ethernet

stable tinsel
#

It said something driver error

strong raft
mossy venture
#

And no they stay on at the same time

stable tinsel
#

Should I Uninstall gpu driver

mossy venture
#

I think smthn doesn't like two at the same time and randomly disconnects one tho, not super often

strong raft
#

Yes, reinstall fresh drivers. Do "clean" installation option

strong raft
mossy venture
#

Nah they work well

#

Never had connection issues since I got the second one

stable tinsel
#

How do I properly uninstall drivers

#

Graphics

strong raft
#

DDU might be 1 option. I've used revoUninstaller in the past, but lately just the normal way

topaz kestrel
#

a normal delete doesnt always get all the files

#

and then causes more errors

strong raft
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Yeah revoUninstaller is kinda neat has 3 different uninstall options and then shows all the found files/registry stuff before deleting that. I'll try DDU myself next time.

balmy python
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how you manage the cables to make the build clean

flint sapphire
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Typically you’d look at the ending locations of cables, then just generally bunch the ones going to similar spots together (you can use cable ties, twist ties etc.) lots of cases if not most come with cable routes.

balmy python