building-and-recc-chat

[topaz kestrel]

which would make sense

@bold turret what ssd was it

[bold turret]

Corsair MP510, Force Series, 480... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B084ZW96N8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[topaz kestrel]

thats why

[fossil cedar]

Noone said Amazon doesn't have overpriced stuff

[topaz kestrel]

basically every pc part is overpriced on amazon lol

[topaz kestrel]

shouldve just got a sn550

[bold turret]

Went what ever got suggested here last year

[topaz kestrel]

suggested by who? a monkey lol

[bold turret]

Who remembers by noe

Now

Here is my build

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DYCXwh

[topaz kestrel]

oh god that mobo

[fossil cedar]

Nah you just need to make good choices

Mobo is fine if you didn't pay that price for it

[topaz kestrel]

thats what i mean its stupid overpriced lol

im pretty sure the b550 is cheaper lol

then again it was a year ago

[bold turret]

True

[topaz kestrel]

you didnt pay 220 for it right?

[bold turret]

Nah 118

[topaz kestrel]

ok that aint that bad

[bold turret]

Yh

Luckily i got my gpu before the downfall

[fossil cedar]

That's decent ye

[topaz kestrel]

yeah same, a 760ti.... :/

lol

[bold turret]

I got a 2080super

Jeez im checking prices rn why tf every pc part is up

[topaz kestrel]

not everypart is up

but miners

and scalpers

[fossil cedar]

If you're looking at old parts, they're being sold 3rd party at just stupid price

Miners and scalpers only affect gpus and ddr5

[mossy venture]

Miners have little to do with the prices of lhr cards/non 5700xt, 8gb rx cards or fhr 30 series

[topaz kestrel]

thats why i said and scalpers

[fossil cedar]

Majority or price increase is covid and demand skyrocketing

[bold turret]

Dam

So when is best time of the year to upgrade

For best prices

As I aint in a hurry

[fossil cedar]

Prices for ram etc haven't been affected

[fossil cedar]

Black Friday/cyber Monday/day after Christmas usually

[topaz kestrel]

and new year sales

[bold turret]

Alright btw what u guys think of amazon warehouse

[topaz kestrel]

scary

[bold turret]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazon-Warehouse-Deals/b?ie=UTF8&node=3581866031

This warehouse @topaz kestrel

[topaz kestrel]

spoopy

[spiral sentinel]

Hey guys, again.. when i’m installing windows 10 which boot device do i choose?

[worn wave]

Which ever device you are installing Windows from

Most likely your USB drive

[spiral sentinel]

I got windows media create tool on the usb

Would i pick the EUFI or regular usb?

[worn wave]

UEFI

[spiral sentinel]

Thank i’ll try it

I had the same problem when i tried it, it gets stuck on the motherboards logo

[kindred pawn]

why is display scaling so much more blurry than gpu scaling

[tame oyster]

@little osprey congrats on your build bro

Those are super high end parts

Did you get your GPU close to MSRP?

[little osprey]

Thank you

GPU was $2150

Not mine. I run a shop. It's for whoever buys it

if my h100i says pump failure but gets about 45*c under load is it still okay to play?

[worn wave]

Just because your CPU is still cool don't mean the pump is failing.

How old is the H100i?

Is it making any sort of audible noise?

[little osprey]

its like 1 day old

[little osprey]

no noise is being made, the fans are moving extremely fast and thats it

[strong raft]

@little osprey Looks good . Does the mobo have extra 90degree connectors or what? GPU power wires need to go straight down, but that's my ocd. 😅

[little osprey]

question: https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221?Item=N82E16883360221&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-221-_-12182021

would this pair well with m27q?

[strong raft]

A 3070 + 11400F, I'd say mostly yes. It's hilarious the higher tier GPU's are almost 1/2 the price of some builds.

[little osprey]

fr lol

[little osprey]

They can't go straight down, the case cutout is the only way to feed the cables.

Most Dark Motherboards use angled connectors

[strong raft]

I know, funny we don't get a cut out that's more adjustable. Ah, that's cool. With all the room from no HDD cages (usually), I'm surprised we don't get "straight-forward" mobo ports often, and go back to how GPU power ports were too.

[winter fractal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F3nkkX

looking for suggestions

[vague oracle]

Did you buy anything yet?

Also what’s your budget?

And use case

[stoic island]

I'm hoping it's not built yet and looking for suggestions on improving list, because if so, many things should probably be changed

[oblique gull]

good amount of improvements needed

[winter fractal]

Like?

keep in mind i already have this system, looking for upgrades

[stoic island]

CPU&platform are 3 generations old, 1tb HDD doesn't make sense considering price of 2tb hdds, weird storage setup, h510 as a case is well, h510

Yea working off of that is more annoying

[oblique gull]

power supply, case imo most important

oh yeah and an easy upgrade of storage

[stoic island]

BR is just not a great unit in general

[oblique gull]

weird storage but you already have it so whatever

[vague oracle]

Case and power supply probably would be fine for now

[winter fractal]

i just kinda picked up the storage as i went along

[stoic island]

It's just BR450 with a 3060ti

I would rather not if possible

[vague oracle]

I’d get a 750w MSI A-GF

[winter fractal]

BR450?

[oblique gull]

650w is enough

[vague oracle]

I meant fine as in the only things to upgrade

[stoic island]

EVGA br 450w

[winter fractal]

oh

[stoic island]

A decent 500w unit will do just fine with 3060ti, it's just BR isn't a great unit

[vague oracle]

750w extra headroom for future upgrades

And it’s dirt cheap compared to the 650w version

[winter fractal]

it makes sounds when i turn the PC on so i feel like thats a good point

[vague oracle]

…uhhhh

That ain’t good

[stoic island]

(wattage is not the real issue, it's just quality of PSU in terms of protections, voltage regulation, ripple, etc)

[oblique gull]

that power supply u should upgrade first

poopy one

[stoic island]

Well, coil whine doesn't actually hurt anything if you have coil whine, it's just really annoying

But noises from other things can be bad

[winter fractal]

its a loud scratching sound

[vague oracle]

Pretty sure 600w is the recommended for the 3060ti

[winter fractal]

only when turned on

also when turned on it turns off the turns itself back on a few seconds later

[oblique gull]

that dont sound good

[stoic island]

Does it sound like smth like
https://youtu.be/HP73edpQwgc

[stoic island]

Reccomended but not necessary, a good 450w unit should do fine assuming lower power draw CPU, but yea, more doesn't hurt.

[winter fractal]

my gpu does that from time to time

but the PSU sounds like sharpening a pencil

[oblique gull]

i think its just best you get a new and better power supply

[winter fractal]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-gt-220-gt-0650-y1-650w/p/N82E16817438186

[stoic island]

What's your current budget

[winter fractal]

this one good or is there a better option

hoping to stay in the 60-70 range for a PSU

[stoic island]

eh

Would've liked 100$ range but well, check if Bitfenix formula gold 750w is still on sale

[winter fractal]

https://www.amazon.com/BitFenix-Formula-Standard-BF-750G-BP-FM750ULAG-7R/dp/B07771GXGZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=Bitfenix+formula+gold+750w&qid=1639891921&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=A6VC1S20HPFGP&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWUNSMFhGV0RBVDhBJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTcyNTc4MzVLNkxQQ01PNFBERiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzM1NDM4MTZOR1Y1UDA4VVc2SiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

???

[stoic island]

My wifi doesn't really want to work with me atm

I'll just throw this link down for reference for you
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Looks like the correct formula gold

[oblique gull]

yeah

A tier

that should do more then fine

[winter fractal]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G6-1000-X1/dp/B08WJJQRGB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3MFYJXGULS71U&keywords=Supernova%2BG6&qid=1639892054&sprefix=supernova%2Bg6%2Caps%2C304&sr=8-1&th=1

[oblique gull]

get the one you had before

much better deal

[winter fractal]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-gt-220-gt-0650-y1-650w/p/N82E16817438186

this one?

[stoic island]

No

Formula gold

[oblique gull]

no no

the amazon one

https://www.amazon.com/BitFenix-Formula-Standard-BF-750G-BP-FM750ULAG-7R/dp/B07771GXGZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=Bitfenix+formula+gold+750w&qid=1639891921&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=A6VC1S20HPFGP&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWUNSMFhGV0RBVDhBJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTcyNTc4MzVLNkxQQ01PNFBERiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzM1NDM4MTZOR1Y1UDA4VVc2SiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

[stoic island]

GT is a worse PSU, G6 is more expensive

[oblique gull]

this one

best deal ur gonna get

[strong raft]

That link is like the great wall of china

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07771GXGZ

[stoic island]

G6 is a weird PSU coming from EVGA, it's seasonic OEM instead of the usual cwt, worse than G2 ofc but supposedly it included extra fixes on top of the normal focus gold platform

I still don't really know how I feel about g6, at least other PSUs tend to be better deals so I could reccomend those instead

[little osprey]

ahhh i still remember when i guy told me i cant use my ryzen 5 5600x on my x370 board while i was using it, felt like yesterday 🙂

[stoic island]

X370 doesn't officially support zen 3 so that's that, whether or not it actually works depends on the implementation.

[little osprey]

well the asrock boards do my x370 killer sli/ac is working wonders with it

idk about like msi

[stoic island]

Perhaps killer sli/ac works, but that doesn't mean all x370 boards work.

[little osprey]

boards

the killer sli/ac board is like 1 of 5 x370 series boards that support it lol

[stoic island]

The one generalization is that x370 doesn't officially support zen 3, individual implementations might differ.

[little osprey]

well ive been able to overclock my cpu all the way to 4.85ghz stable at 1.35v

ok, apparently my friend said that i5-11400f would bottleneck a 3070, which is kinda preventing me from getting this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221?Item=N82E16883360221&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-221-_-12182021 . is this accurate?

no lmao

dude a i5 11th gen will not bottleneck a 3070, NOW if you had a 3090 i would say otherwise

@little osprey

ok

thanks

gonna hit him with this ss

👍

that is actually a amazing prebuilt from what the specs are to the price @little osprey

thanks to pato and other ppl

[mossy venture]

11600k wirh 3090 is fine at 4k

[little osprey]

hey i remember you, you the guy that said i couldnt run my ryzen 5 5600x on my x370 board while i was running it lol, also to that i say, you could but itll be bottlenecked by a decent chunk

a 3090 is more meant towards like a i7 or i9 cpu, sure itll run on a i5 but u dont get as much performance

[strong raft]

most irrelevant statement of today. i5 12gen beats most i7/i9's of previous gens. Depending on the gen, i7/i9 has also usually been barely an upgrade in most games, 4k or not.

[little osprey]

?

uh ok surrreee

[mossy venture]

I said it wouldn't be smart lmao

I didn't say it wouldn't work

And 11600k is equal to a 5600x. At 4k it will barely affect a 3090

[little osprey]

you said that it would basically kill the vrms on my board and it didnt lol

[sand falcon]

By default the board shouldn't allow the vrms to supply more power than they're capable of, so as long as you don't oc or such you should be okay

[little osprey]

uh oh, but i do overclock to 4.85 ghz at 1.35v, but i dont do it much bc it gets my room toasty, but its stable and doesnt overheat surprisingly

[mossy venture]

Are you using ryzen master for that

Or bios

[little osprey]

ryzen

[mossy venture]

That would be why

Ryzen master is awful for ocing

[sand falcon]

What board?

[little osprey]

well i did use my bios to overclock and it had the same performance

[little osprey]

AsRock X370 Killer SLI/ac

it has some chunky heatsinks on the vrms lol

[sand falcon]

Size isn't everything

[little osprey]

well it is in a good airflow setups and stays cool sooo

i aint complaining, it just works

[mossy venture]

What cooler you got on that

[sand falcon]

Good news is as you've noticed you lucked into having an x370 that somehow supports zen 3

[little osprey]

i have a coolermaster masterliquid ml240 v2 rgb

[little osprey]

its like 1 outta 5 boards in the x370 series that can handle zen 3 lol

[sand falcon]

None of them are actually supported, some of them are able to work

[mossy venture]

Bob outta curiosity

[little osprey]

but i thought there is a list from asrock what boards support and which dont tho?

[mossy venture]

Are x370s and 350s similar to 550s and x570s in terms of vrms?

[sand falcon]

No

[mossy venture]

No like

I mean how 550s have better vrms normally

[sand falcon]

That's unofficial

[little osprey]

but it was on the official asrock website?

[sand falcon]

ASRock managed to hack unofficial limited support into the x370

[little osprey]

eh it works

[sand falcon]

Yup

[little osprey]

and i can still overclock

to a good stable 4.85ghz at 1.35v and stay under 70 degrees Celsius under load

[sand falcon]

70 on the CPU or vrm?

[little osprey]

cpu

vrm gets to 71 highest

[sand falcon]

Hmm

[little osprey]

from what i saw

[sand falcon]

I'm surprised they're keeping up that well

[little osprey]

well its still a really good board

[sand falcon]

I'm looking at the spec, they aren't great

Man, it's always amazing how much things have changed in the past few years

[little osprey]

yep

[sand falcon]

Six physical phases on a relatively high end board, these days that probably wouldn't push past mid tier

[little osprey]

eh as long my games can stay at a constant 165fps at maximum settings im set

[sand falcon]

Kinda curious to see what features ASRock cut to get that thing running

Have you noticed anything obvious?

[little osprey]

nope everything is the same, all it did was add support

nothing seems to be cut when i checked the bios, actually i think more stuff was added than removed lol

[sand falcon]

Looks like resizable bar is gone

No biggie for most people though

[little osprey]

eh never used it

nothing major disappeared so

alright im going to bed, my final cable i needed to finish my sisters computer for christmas is gonna come in tomorrow so ill be doing that

[cerulean sundial]

Is an evga hybrid kit for my 3080 ti XC3 a good investment?

[analog hearth]

what's the price?

[cerulean sundial]

109 on their website

[analog hearth]

that's a scam

what currency?

[cerulean sundial]

USD

[analog hearth]

bruh

don't buy that

[jagged ember]

bruh

[analog hearth]

mega scam lmaooo

[jagged ember]

that's the most suspicious price

ain't buying that

[cerulean sundial]

It’s on evga.com though?

[worn wave]

109?

[cerulean sundial]

Yes

[worn wave]

Do you mean 1090 or something

OH its a kit

[cerulean sundial]

I just need the cooling kit yeah

[jagged ember]

wait

[cerulean sundial]

Lol

[analog hearth]

ohhh

[jagged ember]

lmao

I thought you meant the actual card lmao

[cerulean sundial]

Oh no lol

[jagged ember]

109 for an xc? damn

[cerulean sundial]

Is the cooler even worth it ?

[jagged ember]

I mean why do you want it?

[cerulean sundial]

I haven’t used my computer yet since I’m deployed but I’m already concerned about temps

[jagged ember]

is the gpu regularly going past 80C or something?

lol nah not until you actually see its temps

then you can justify it

[cerulean sundial]

Ok for sure. Most I’m gonna be doing is 2k gaming , not max settings

[jagged ember]

yeah I think it'll be fine

unless it's a hotbox of a case like the h510 or something lol

[cerulean sundial]

It’s the lian li dynamic with like 12 fans including the gpu fans lol

[jagged ember]

sheesh lol

I think it'll be fine

[cerulean sundial]

Ok sweet thank you 🙏

[jagged ember]

but usually people use that case for water cooling

just fyi I guess

[cerulean sundial]

My cpu is water cooled

[jagged ember]

oh cool

yeah then it'll be fine

[cerulean sundial]

Bet

[jagged ember]

just monitor temps when you're gaming and stuff for a bit yeah

hwinfo, MSI afterburner with rtss

or I think nvidia has their own version

[cerulean sundial]

I can put an overlay of temps on the screen constantly?

[jagged ember]

it feels too intrusive tho

[jagged ember]

yeah with rtss

[cerulean sundial]

Rtss got it

[jagged ember]

it's great cause you can choose what's on the on screen display

anything afterburner can monitor can basically be displayed

[humble fossil]

hi

what the best?

MSI QHD Rapid-IPS Gaming Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 2560 x 1440 165Hz Refresh Rate Adjustable Arm G-Sync Compatible 27” Gaming Monitor (Optix MAG274QRF), Black

Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27” Monitor, 1440P WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, 165Hz (Supports 144Hz), G-SYNC Compatible, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync, Eye Care, DisplayPort HDMI Black

GIGABYTE G27QC 27" 165Hz 1440P Curved Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 VA 1500R Display, 1ms (MPRT) Response Time, 92% DCI-P3, HDR Ready, FreeSync Premium, 1x Display Port 1.4

SAMSUNG Odyssey G7 Series 32-Inch WQHD (2560x1440) Gaming Monitor, 240Hz, Curved, 1ms, HDMI, G-Sync, FreeSync Premium Pro (LC32G75TQSNXZA)

[topaz kestrel]

you not gonna send prices aswell?

[humble fossil]

SAMSUNG 852

GIGABYTE 505

Asus 706

MSI 578

Almost this price is a dollar

the price doesn't matter so much

[topaz kestrel]

the gigabyte one i'd imagine

[topaz kestrel]

you should never buy something with this train of thought lol

[humble fossil]

ok

[topaz kestrel]

@humble fossil what gpu do you have?

jw

[topaz kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/p/N82E16824012015?Item=N82E16824012015&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-v6I6s2JC.RjLxSo9.yZENw

long link moment

theres also a better version of it

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/p/N82E16824012018?Item=N82E16824012018

[topaz kestrel]

@humble fossil i'd say go with this monitor

[humble fossil]

what is the difference

[topaz kestrel]

higher refresh rate and frame rate

[humble fossil]

msi and asus 1ms

[topaz kestrel]

the one i said you should go with is 170hz and 0.5ms

[humble fossil]

i think

[topaz kestrel]

you also get a free copy of outriders if thats your thin g

decent game imo

but the gigabyte one i sent is the best

[humble fossil]

do you use gigabyte?

[topaz kestrel]

i know alot of people who do

im using a msi g24c6 atm

cus its cheap and good

[humble fossil]

are the colors perfect?

[topaz kestrel]

i'd imagine so yes

its ips

[topaz kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIqwxAZ-MQ

[humble fossil]

Are the msi colors perfect?

[topaz kestrel]

oh on my monitor

my monitor is only a 24inch 144hz, its just a budget but good monitor

[humble fossil]

MSI QHD Rapid-IPS Gaming Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 2560 x 1440 165Hz Refresh Rate Adjustable Arm G-Sync Compatible 27” Gaming Monitor (Optix MAG274QRF), Black

[topaz kestrel]

im not sure how the more expensive ones are

@humble fossil i recommend the gigabyte one, its the best for its price and if you dont like the stand just buy a cheap $20 one lol

[humble fossil]

i didn't buy my own PC it's the first time

ok thanks

[sand falcon]

How accurate do you need the colors? Pretty much any decent monitor has enough for basic gaming, but if you're looking at doing professional level content creation you should probably look at slightly higher accuracy

Personally I second Muffin's recommendation of the M27Q, but if you need a more professional monitor I can look around

[topaz kestrel]

^^

[spiral sentinel]

Hey guys, should i download the latest version of bios from my mobo or just the one that’s compatible with my cpu?

[sand falcon]

What CPU and what motherboard?

[little osprey]

My 12900k literally draws 300w when I OC it to 5.1ghz

About same as 3090 lol

[thin oar]

Does anyone know what cpu is best for an RTX 3060?

[little osprey]

11400 would be pretty enough

[thin oar]

I have an am4 mobo

[little osprey]

Oh 5600x is then

[thin oar]

ah cool

was gonna potentially go for a 3600

but a 5600x it is then

[little osprey]

It would be alright tho I think but 5600x is way better

[thin oar]

yeah

[little osprey]

Go for 5600x if you can effort

[spiral sentinel]

Ryzen 5800x and aorus b550 elite v2

In bios its says it has F1 but i need F10

[sand falcon]

I'd go for the most recent then

[earnest olive]

@desert gulch i found a way to win the b550 vs. x570 debate permanently

just use both at the same time

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/donate-anime-but-thats-illegal-what-if-jail-finds-out-gif-17851299

[earnest olive]

bribe them with an rgb fan

[strong raft]

If you have to update bios, might as well get newest.

[desert gulch]

hahaha

[spiral sentinel]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-dave-chappelle-chappelle-chappelle-show-you-got-a-deal-gif-18649803

[spiral sentinel]

Got it

After 8 months finalle

[tame oyster]

Which mobo is king?

[desert gulch]

for all out? x570

you get more pcie gen 4 lanes and stuff

and maybe better vrms if you get a really good one

its just that theres no point when a decent b550 will handle any zen 3 cpu

and most ppl dont have multiple gen 4 drives, or gpus running in gen 4

[spiral sentinel]

What keyboard layout do i choose?

[tame oyster]

Hmmmm

I have a x570

@finite sinew you and me almost have the same exact build

[spiral sentinel]

Beautiful

[tame oyster]

Thank you bro

You’re also beautiful

[tame oyster]

Also depends. If it’s only for gaming and you like to angle your keyboard a lot I suggest a 60% one. But if you wanna use it for everything I would go with a normal keyboard layout

[spiral sentinel]

I meant like for windows installation

[tame oyster]

Ohjjj

Thé standard keyboard layout?
I dunno tbh lmao

[spiral sentinel]

I have a gtx 970 and the drivers for it are for windows 7 and 8, do i still get it if i have 10?

[tame oyster]

I don’t know. I’m sure they may have drivers for windows 10 support. I think Nvidia has drivers for windows 10 on their site

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/

[spiral sentinel]

Yeah but i’m trying to get them for my gtx 970

And its an old card

Im going to upgrade when i can get a good priced gpu

[tame oyster]

What card do you want ideally?

And what cpu do you have?

[spiral sentinel]

I’m want a rtx 3070 but will settle for a 3060

I have a ryzen 5800x

[tame oyster]

Are you in the us?

[spiral sentinel]

Yes

[tame oyster]

New York?

[spiral sentinel]

No

[tame oyster]

3070s are always in stock here

[spiral sentinel]

Really?

[tame oyster]

But micro center charges a lot

Like close to 600-700$

[spiral sentinel]

I am 2 days from new york

[tame oyster]

You have a really good cpu

[spiral sentinel]

I’ll likely buy one for a little over retail or camp at a Microscenter near me

[tame oyster]

I have a Ryzen 7 5800x

[spiral sentinel]

Sweet, i love it so far

When did u get it?

[tame oyster]

I got it around September

Bro they have a Ryzen 9 5900x for 400$ here

I’m tempted but it’s not worth it to upgrade given what ppl have told me

And a Ryzen 9 5950x is 669$

[spiral sentinel]

Thats a greate price

But its whatever you do with ur pc that might be worth the upgrade

[tame oyster]

I’m just worried about temps

Idk if my cooling is good enough for this toasty CPU

Also I only game and do school work. I don’t do heavy editing or rendering work so my tech friends say I’m just gonna be wasting money by upgrading to a R9 5900x or a R9 5950x

[jagged ember]

yep

absolutely

I'd say that lol

5900x is already a monster

unless, you sell the 5900x

for the 5950x

[oblique gull]

go 5600x or intel 12600k

also NY mircocenter gang lmao

[tame oyster]

I have a 5800x already

But the 12600k is the best bang for buck cpu out there I know that.

[tame oyster]

Oh nah bro. I got a 5800x

[oblique gull]

the 300 dollar deal?

[tame oyster]

Yeah but I’m talking about the one I currently already own. I would upgrade to a Intel cpu but I gotta buy a whole mobo and all and I’m not tryna do all that

[oblique gull]

understandable

[strong raft]

nvidia driver page, hit Beta/legacy drivers and see if you can select Win10 from the OS drop down menu. I can't check right now.

[earnest olive]

5800x is generally harder to cool than 5900x and 5950x

[desert gulch]

12700k can be if you live near a microcenter

its like $299 at mc lol

absolutely insane

[tame oyster]

No way? Fr?!

[earnest olive]

yeah, it's because of the higher heat density

5800x has a single core complex with the highest watts/core

5900x and 5950x spread out those cores into two core complexes and have lower watts/core bc more cores have to share a power budget

[tame oyster]

Wow

[earnest olive]

i've got a 5800x under a galahad 360 that hits 90C in under 1 second if i start up prime95

hitting 18 watts per core

in a smaller area

[desert gulch]

Yeah they run hottttt

[earnest olive]

5950x will do like 12.5 watts per core? over a twice as large area

[tame oyster]

Then how would you explain the heat issues ppl get when they upgrade from a 5800x to a 5900x/5950x when they game in warzone for like 4-5 hours. Like they get 10 degrees more than the 5800x when they have the 5900x/5950x. They got the 360mm Corsair Hi150 elite AIO too

[desert gulch]

5900x/5950x puts out more heat

Just over a larger area

[earnest olive]

5950x @ 220W: subtract 20W for SoC, 200W for cores / 16 cores = 12.5 W/core
5800x @ 165W: subtract 20W for SoC, 145W for cores / 8 cores = 18.125 W/core

[desert gulch]

5800x puts out a lot of heat, but in a tiny area

[abstract vigil]

I too have a 5800x with Nzxt X73. with stock settings it goes to 90C if i run cinebench23

I had to adjust PBO limits to lower temps

[earnest olive]

that's just heat saturation while the 5900x/5950x are doing more work probably

i'm speaking worst case scenarios

[tame oyster]

True they get much more frames in warzone

[earnest olive]

where your cpu is hammered to 100% the whole time

[tame oyster]

Like 50-70 more frames

[earnest olive]

that sounds more like a ram or gpu difference

5800x 5900x 5950x should all be within margin of error in most games

[desert gulch]

Yeah warzone isn't THAT cpu heavy

It's much more gpu

[earnest olive]

my 5800x is a lot less efficient than my old 5600x though unless i use my custom power plan

[tame oyster]

Must be their 3090 then

[earnest olive]

same games that my 5600x would draw 40W in my 5800x likes to draw 70W+

at locked 60 fps

lol

[desert gulch]

I was seeing about 40% usage on my CPU locked to 3.6ghz on my 3600 on 1080p ultra

And my 5700xt was pinned

Saw about 200 fps

[earnest olive]

i saw my 5800x hit 155W in the loading screen for cold war lol

82C

[desert gulch]

Lol

That's more than my GPU takes in loading screens haha

[earnest olive]

it was way lower in the actual game

[desert gulch]

I use adrenaline to make sure I don't get more than 170 fps now

[earnest olive]

damn i didn't have RTSS on when i was testing the game

i was just using the in game fps counter

my 3080 bottlenecking the heck out of my 5800x

[desert gulch]

Haha

Get a better gpu

[earnest olive]

yeah

[desert gulch]

7900xt

[earnest olive]

time to buy 4090ti

[desert gulch]

I have faith in Radeon taking a noticeable margin of better perf over nvidia

I mean, they're improving really quick

When you consider my card is the best Radeon 5000, and it was only 2070s level

[earnest olive]

the other day my 5700xt crashed 3 times trying to open DDU with no GPU load

[desert gulch]

Lol I heard

Gotta lower that vram

[earnest olive]

it's gonna take a bit for amd to convince me that radeon is worth buying

lowering vram made it less stable

[desert gulch]

Radeon drivers are flawless now
Source : Trust me bro

[earnest olive]

it went from 0.6% invalid shares at 1850MHz

to instant full system crash at 1800MHz

radeon cards are so weird to OC

[carmine swallow]

I need some insight on this build. Its my first build and I've done some research on parts and I think i've got some good stuff here. MY budget is 1200-1300$ range (peripherals included). Heres the build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9cjj8J . Lemme know if theres something i could change out for better price to performance. Also, I wanna know if the power supply is good. I don't want any of those exploding supplies i've heard rumors of.

[earnest olive]

you can definitely do better than integrated graphics for a $1300 budget lol

[desert gulch]

Psu is a solid meh

Like, could be better, could be worse

I'd def grab a better one tho

[carmine swallow]

these are CAD prices btw. So whatever the USD price is, its about 1.5x more

[earnest olive]

even if you need to fit in a keyboard and a 144hz monitor you can at least squeeze in a used gtx 1070

yes it's a canadian list i can see that

[carmine swallow]

1070 is 600$. ill have to wait a bit to buy any gpu XD

[earnest olive]

also $220 for this mobo?

$600 from where?

[carmine swallow]

its 120$

for mobo

[earnest olive]

well pcpartpicker says $220

[carmine swallow]

did you change the country to Canada?

[desert gulch]

Not on my screen

Says 120 for me

[earnest olive]

oh i see what was wrong

for some reason my canadian pcpartpicker was set to amazon only

[desert gulch]

Lol

[carmine swallow]

amazons horrible for pc parts here x.x

everything inflated there

i couldnt find any psu to fit the budge. Especially the fully modular ones. Semi should be ok right?

[earnest olive]

semi modular is easier than fully modular in most cases

[vague oracle]

Really?

[earnest olive]

it's not a meaningful difference at all

but yeah

it's not like you are going to power your pc without mobo power or cpu power

the fact that they're bundled together makes it a little less cluttered in front of the psu

[vague oracle]

True

[carmine swallow]

also i heard power ratings are just a "flex" thing and dont actually do much to benefit for the amount they cost, so i just opted for a bronze one

[earnest olive]

bronze is fine

but this specfic unit is mediocre

[carmine swallow]

can you recommend a better one?

[earnest olive]

it's fine as long as you're not trying to power a 3080 with it

so

at this budget might as well keep it and save some money

[carmine swallow]

no, maybe a 3060

but when prices drop

[earnest olive]

should be ok with a 3060

[carmine swallow]

even 3060ti should be fine right?

[earnest olive]

up to a 3070 should be ok with this

3070ti and up no

[carmine swallow]

ok thats fine, im not planning on breaking the bank that hard anyways XD

[earnest olive]

idk what the canadian used market is like but 1070s go for $300 usd all day down here

[carmine swallow]

i was thinking between this and i5-11400, but im the performance is better on this ryzen cpu?

[earnest olive]

no

well, cpu performance 11400 wins

gpu performance 5600g wins

but you should really be setting your sights higher than integrated graphics

[carmine swallow]

1070s are going for 500-600 here on ebay and amazon

well gpu prices have never gone low since covid started and idk how to find a gpu to fit my budget

[earnest olive]

might want to try canadian r/hardwareswap or someone on US r/hardwareswap willing to ship to canada

[carmine swallow]

even 980ti is going for 400$

[earnest olive]

i get the vast majority of my used deals from US r/hws

[carmine swallow]

the shipping prices are insane here

[earnest olive]

i know

[carmine swallow]

ill be paying as much for shipping as the actual card xD

[earnest olive]

i shipped a graphics card to a friend in ontario

$43.65 USD shipping here and she had to pay $25 import tax to pick it up

[carmine swallow]

i tried to sign up for newegg shuffle, but realized its in USD and shipping fees apply so i gave up on that

[earnest olive]

and the card itself was only 140 USD

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianHardwareSwap/new/ anyways you could try here

[carmine swallow]

i've looked there

[earnest olive]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kyCpdD this would leave you $375 budget for a used graphics card

at US prices that could get a 1070

[strong raft]

It's a bummer. I do suggest hunting for a comparable 10 series if possible, 1070 uses a lot less power.

[earnest olive]

980ti isn't a bad alternative but you'd prob need to up the power supply a bit

1070 is literally more than 5 times the performance of the 5600G you're thinking about using so..

if you can do it then do it

[carmine swallow]

1070 at 300$ sounds horrible for the price lmao

literally 4 years old xD

[earnest olive]

well you wanted to pay about $100 for an igpu with 1/5 of the performance of the 1070

considering the 5600G performs about the same as the 3600 on the cpu side

[strong raft]

1/2 price of any 3060, not a bad bang for buck overall.

[earnest olive]

and matches/loses to the 10400 most of the time

so... the market is what it is

used 1070 is still way smarter than gaming on a 5600G

[strong raft]

Not brand new big deal, it's actually funny how good 4 year old GPUs are, depending on the game and res

[earnest olive]

if you can't find a 1070 for $375 a 1060 would still be miles ahead

you're severely overestimating the 5600G's integrated graphics if you think it can even begin to compare

GTX 1060 is still ~4 times as powerful

[carmine swallow]

then im capping my budget with a 4 year old card, vs paying 1k for both a cpu and built in gpu, while it is worse, atleast i have something to wait until gpu prices go down enough so i can snag a decent gpu

[earnest olive]

like i said

5600g is literally a worse cpu than the i5-10400

so you're not making a big brain move by slotting a 3060 in with the 5600g

and you can just resell the 1060 whenever

budget gamers will always exist

but if you're convinced that you're right then go on ahead

[carmine swallow]

nah its just a difference between having a built pc right now and waiting for an unexpected amount of time

[earnest olive]

age of the components is far less important than you seem to be fixated on... 4 month old integrated graphics are still much weaker than a 5 year old midrange graphics card

we still have 8 year old cpus aging relatively well

[carmine swallow]

no i meant like if i get a apu, i could have a working pc right now, which is something i need. Vs having to wait until i can get a 1070 at around 300$

[earnest olive]

sure i mean i'd rather spend a week looking for a 1060 for ~$300 and have a 4 times better pc

up to you

it's not going to be hard to find a 1060 around $300 lol

[carmine swallow]

its been harder than you would expect here xD

i do have a week before i really need one

i can always look around and if not then APU is the way i go ig

[earnest olive]

even after international shipping i still got my canadian friend a gpu with similar performance to a 1060 for sub 300

[carmine swallow]

how much do 1070s go for in usa?

[earnest olive]

300-325 depending on model

i just sold one for 325 recently

that's usd though so like 370-400 cad

[carmine swallow]

325 USD?

[earnest olive]

i was saying you could go down to 1060 and still blow that 5600g out of the water

[carmine swallow]

1060 would be under 300$

?

oh i just found one for 270 usd XD

[earnest olive]

1060 6gb trending at around $200-225 usd over here

[carmine swallow]

that shipping price is kinda nutty tho

still sounds better when considering the build you sent me is around 100$ cheaper

[earnest olive]

a week is a decent amount of time to find a good enough deal

[carmine swallow]

now that i think about it, its not that bad getting it shipped from usa. Only thing is, i have no way of knowing if the seller is selling a legitimate card or trolling

[earnest olive]

usually people don't bother trying to scam when paypal buyer protection is involved since it's known to almost always side with the buyer

can try local marketplaces too, facebook, kijiji, etc

[carmine swallow]

and the resell value wont drop much im guessing

kijiji is a mess here

[earnest olive]

if you can find a local deal it'll definitely be cheaper

[carmine swallow]

local bestbuys never have a gpu in stock either

[earnest olive]

you'll basically have until mining ends to resell it for a similar value

which is currently expected to be around july i think?

[vague oracle]

July?

[earnest olive]

then there will be a mass exodus of used rx 580 8gbs for like $80 again lol

[carmine swallow]

they always keep increasing the dates tf

at first it was end of january

e.e

USA prices are not looking too bad, even with the shipping its still cheaper than any graphics card being sold here

[earnest olive]

damn

I found a 1060 6gb in ontario for $275 cad before

but my friend and I decided better if I buy one here and ship even if it's more expensive bc I know how to do maintenance on it and she doesn't

[carmine swallow]

yea i tried to get those, but they are always somewhere far away from where i live

and someone always beats me to it xD

[earnest olive]

gotta repaste those old cards

every good deal I've gotten on r/hws was on a less than 15 second old post

I just refresh the new post feed

[carmine swallow]

you must have decent luck

[earnest olive]

i'll have r/hws up on the second screen while gaming with friends

and refresh it once in a while

[carmine swallow]

ah

quick question for that build you sent me

@earnest oliveyou used 3600 mhz ram for i5-10400. I was always under the impression you dont need so much for intel and people usually opt for something like 2600-2900 mhz?

[earnest olive]

lol it's not a matter of how much you "need"

there's no such thing

better ram is better regardless of amd or intel

for the current price difference 3600c16 is worth it over 3200c16 for most budgets

[carmine swallow]

ah ok and for a gtx 1060, is there a specific oem model that is a better deal or just any work?

[earnest olive]

anything works, dual axial fan > blower = single axial fan generally

[carmine swallow]

alright thanks man, you helped me out a ton! 😄

[strong raft]

It'll be worth it the 1st game you play and not have it be 30fps

[earnest olive]

np

good luck finding a deal

[carmine swallow]

i actually just looked at ebay.ca for 1060s and seems like the price has gone down in the last 24 hours

managed to find one for 330 CAD. Debating whether i should buy or wait for a better deal xD

[analog pulsar]

i need a 5600G build pcpartpicker

APU build plz

ik pato made one but idk where it is

[topaz kestrel]

sorry for ping*

@analog pulsar ^

[analog pulsar]

thanks

[topaz kestrel]

no clue if thats what you're looking for but its a 5600g one lol

[analog pulsar]

most any build that has been made and cheap

[topaz kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GH2ywz @analog pulsar

i think thats the actual one

[analog pulsar]

okay thanks

[topaz kestrel]

np

[vague oracle]

I remember that conversation, boy that was something

[topaz kestrel]

lol

[desert gulch]

Holy crap that Mobo is expensive

Don't pay 180 for a b550 lol

[tough shell]

but yeah, @obsidian wigeon , I'm looking for something case wise that is small and sleek, but could handle a 3000 series gpu, as well as a 10th or 11th gen intel cpu. could possibly look at threadripper if I can catch it on sale.

preferably one of the 1000 or 2000 series threadrippers if that's the route i go

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[tough shell]

also will be sticking in 32gb ram

of ripjaw

[obsidian wigeon]

3000 series could mean anything so im still standing on meshify c

it's not that big but fits e-atx i think

oh nah, it doesn't

[tough shell]

is e-atx a different size than matx?

[obsidian wigeon]

i was thinking of the meshify 2 xl

[tough shell]

still not overly familiar with jargin >.<

[obsidian wigeon]

well e-atx is huge

[tough shell]

ahh

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the form factor that the mobos for threadrippers uses

[tough shell]

Oh, I see

[obsidian wigeon]

if ya want tr you're forced to go big

[tough shell]

so if I was to go with the meshify c, i'd be forced into the intel stream

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

nah, you can still do ryzen

like 5950x

still gonna be better than those older tr in most cases

[tough shell]

this is the one ur talking about right?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[topaz kestrel]

ofc, it was made a while back\

[vague oracle]

Older TRs were baaaad

I’ve been messing around with a 3960x rn and it’s just under my 5900x

If you really want a good workstation I’d honestly go for a 5950x or waiting for 5000 series TR

[flint sapphire]

5950x is a beast 👀

[tough shell]

@vague oracle could you please send me a link to an amazon posting of the 5950x in CAD? Can't find it on my own amazon

[vague oracle]

https://www.amazon.ca/DANIPEW-Sand-Man-Cotton-Performance-T-Shirt/dp/B0815Y8J9N/

[tough shell]

unlocked just allows for use of all threads? or is it allows for overclocking?

[vague oracle]

Weird link

[tough shell]

Cause he won't be doing any OC

[vague oracle]

Overclocking

[obsidian wigeon]

ocing

all ryzens are unlocked

[vague oracle]

All AMD cpus are unlocked

[tough shell]

interesting

[obsidian wigeon]

but oc is optional

[vague oracle]

What’s he planning to do with the PC?

[obsidian wigeon]

and pbo already does that well for ya

ryzen doesn't oc much

[tough shell]

pbo?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's auto oc

basically

[vague oracle]

Auto OC basically

[obsidian wigeon]

safer than manual

cause static voltage even on 1.35v degrades em

pbo is dynamic

[tough shell]

Work station for rendering, design, as well as basic tasks such as accounting software. Want to future proof it a bit, because he's had so many problems with his pc crapping out when running anything intensive

[vague oracle]

What programs will he be planning to use?

Probably your best bet would be a 5950x/64Gb of ram/ and a 3090

[tough shell]

I asked him for a list of what he's planning on, but I just want to take a look around and see what's out there

[vague oracle]

Somewhat of a “budget” version of my workstation

[tough shell]

he want's to swap to mac, but I can't help him with any issues that has

his current asus laptop is "only" 9 years old

[vague oracle]

That’s a horrible idea because of compatibility issues

[tough shell]

yeah

[vague oracle]

Many CAD programs don’t like mac

[tough shell]

thats why im looking at pc parts n stuff

yeah and Im thinking anything using 3d printers will freak with mac unless specifically designed for it

[tough shell]

alongside this, what would you think for storage? I was kinda thinking something like 2-3tb sata ssd, and 1tb m.2 ssd

[vague oracle]

I’m using 2 samsung 980 pros and 2 8Tb HDDs but I’d recommend a 2tb Toshiba X300 and a 1TB Mushkin Pilot E

[strong raft]

Does the X300 even have a 2TB option? The 4TB is $95ish currently

[vague oracle]

I think it does

If it doesn’t just go for the 4Tb

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah but not worth it

seagate is cheaper

or wd sometimes

[tough shell]

any noticable difference between these other than storage size?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[vague oracle]

I had too many Seagates fail on me, and Toshiba X300s out perform most WDs iirc

[obsidian wigeon]

only storage is the diff

[tough shell]

didn't think so but formatting on the names is different so was confused lol

[obsidian wigeon]

but x300 is expensive for 2tb one

[tough shell]

id probs go 8tb

10tb aint worth for how much it costs compared to 8tb

[vague oracle]

Why do you need so much storage?

[strong raft]

I've had a bunch of WD's, but the X300 4TB is what I'd get if I for some reason needed another HDD.

[vague oracle]

^

[tough shell]

cause I want it ;')

real talk though, I want to look at what the requirements of what my dad is looking to do before I look at the size of storage

[vague oracle]

Ahh so this is for your dad

[tough shell]

yes

my pc is pretty decent

[vague oracle]

What’s his work if you don’t mind me asking?

[strong raft]

8TB is good if we want to install every game we have at once huh, lol

[tough shell]

He's looking to start some entrepreneurial stuff, which will include 3d rendering , design, as well as just financial stuff. He's also looking to learn programming which is kinda secondary to the first part

[tough shell]

installing the last 2 cod games

[vague oracle]

Ahh I thought he was already doing it professionally

Id probably only do 4tbs and a 3070/3080 instead of the 3090

[strong raft]

best I can do is room for a demo of 1.

[vague oracle]

As well as 32Gb of ram

Maybe a 5600x/5800x

[tough shell]

yeah def doing 32 gb minimum, ik myself from gaming that 18gb was a bottleneck for some stuff as is

combined with school work

[vague oracle]

Ehh gaming and CAD are 2 different beasts

I’ve gotten away with 8Gb when I was first starting it

Only when I started doing big commissions not caring about optimizing it did I start using 64+

[tough shell]

my school work was maxing out my 18gb ram

I was doing multiple 3d rendering processes on mapping software

[vague oracle]

That doesn’t sound right

[tough shell]

while running games

my pc DID NOT like it

[strong raft]

I have to say, if you find a 2TB X300, it's likely an older model that's not even close to the same.

oh btw. For anyone about the X300.

Your screenshot up there was the older models.

[tough shell]

Is a Meshify C able to hold a 3080 with a matx mobo and fan?

[strong raft]

easily

[tough shell]

It's a relatively deep case is it?

my own pc is barely able to fit my 3080 in a mid tower

[vague oracle]

If you want something completely overkill get this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HBbtmk

My workstation

[tough shell]

I should just get the massive obsidian case

[flint sapphire]

The meshify c, the original one can fit a 2080ti ftw 3 if tht helps at all

Not much clearance tho

[tough shell]

you know what is great about your build? @vague oracle

he wants NO rgb, so it would be cheaper 😂
also only needs 1gpu 😄

though rgb ram looks 🔥

[flint sapphire]

Not the best shot to show the clearance but better then nothing

[strong raft]

idk which exact model, but mechify C

[stoic island]

if you want to check things, look at case for clearance stats, use this for GPU length stats
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/

[flint sapphire]

Eyyy same gpu

[tough shell]

Thanks 🙂

Meshify C has room for 2 120mm fans on the front, right?

oh im dumb

nvm that question

[flint sapphire]

3* or 1x140 and 2x120

[tough shell]

so if I was going with arctic pwm pst 120mm fans, I'd want 5 total, along with cpu cooler?

[strong raft]

haha, look at the pic 3 comments up

[visual sun]

Why does my pc keep sending me to bios?

[flint sapphire]

Oh wait

[tough shell]

can it not find boot drive?

[visual sun]

Why would it suddenly not?

[tough shell]

I've had sata cables fail before. replaced them and was good

other than that, I couldn't tell ya. Not good enough with pc's to know most of the ins and outs

[visual sun]

Its a m.2

[tough shell]

not sure then

[visual sun]

Might have come loose tho?

[tough shell]

m.2 port fail or sumthin?

[visual sun]

I didn't have a screw on it

[obsidian wigeon]

could just be corrupted os

oh yep

it came loose lol

why didn't you screw it in?

[visual sun]

Heat sink should have kept it on

[obsidian wigeon]

uh

you need to screw the heatsink in

[visual sun]

I didn't have one for it

[tough shell]

That's what I was gunna do with mine, cause it has 2 ports for m.2 but only 1 is available with my gen intel cpu, so stole the screw from the other port cause 1 was missing

[obsidian wigeon]

the screw is a must to secure it

[visual sun]

I screwd the heat sink on but the card was smaller

[obsidian wigeon]

then don't put heatsink on

just screw the ssd in only

otherwise the problem would still happen

[visual sun]

Yep came loos

[desert gulch]

yeah for sure screw in that ssd, itd suck if it fell and broke

[tough shell]

What do you guys think is better? Multiple displays using extended screen, or an ultrawide?

[obsidian wigeon]

i would do ultrawide myself cause seamless

no bezels

[tough shell]

what's better, clamp mounted stand, or normal stand?

[visual sun]

That... Was the most painful thing ive ever done

Who ever invented non magnetic screws... They are a monster

[obsidian wigeon]

shoulda taken gpu off

it doesn't hurt to do it

[strong raft]

Ultrawide would be cool but I'd still want a 2nd display for gaming to have Discord or other stuff on 2nd screen while playing.

[visual sun]

Easier said than done

[tough shell]

I can get it done. Not saying your pc would work after, but I can get it done

[strong raft]

normal screws + magnetic screwdriver = good.

[tough shell]

electronics + magnets = good

[obsidian wigeon]

the gpu looks to be in easy spot to take off

[tough shell]

especially if it's not mine

for a work station, do you guys think a ultrawide > dual monitors, or would duals be better?

[visual sun]

The screw is on already

[tough shell]

I've run duals, but never an ultrawide

[obsidian wigeon]

i know

[strong raft]

Need to go back to GPU power on the "end" pointing forward or towards mobo. How it often is on the outer side is junk, imo.

[obsidian wigeon]

i was sayin that it would've been much easier had the gpu not been there

[visual sun]

Yah. Anyway finally in

[strong raft]

Must resist pun...

Alright, time to boot?

[visual sun]

Almost

Any difference between these 2 speaker slots?

Rs and cs

[strong raft]

right speaker, center speaker is what I imagine

[visual sun]

Yah i assumed

Anyway dosent matter

[viral ore]

i think that stuff is used for surround, there should just be a regular line out

[visual sun]

Only those 2 and headphones witch i use normally so dosent matter

[strong raft]

yeah my lil 2.0 set uses a single cord and I have it in the Line-Out port. Headset is usb though.

[visual sun]

Ummmm

[viral ore]

Ummmm

[visual sun]

I booted let me in then when i tryed to open space engineers shut off during loading and now only loads to bios again

[strong raft]

in bios does it see the ssd? If not, I'd shutdown again and reinstall the drive

[viral ore]

how many times have you restarted your pc since this happened? does it always take you to the bios

[visual sun]

Wait its doing more

Around 10

[viral ore]

thats past the bios, so the drive is detected and bootable

run automatic repair i suppose, cant really hurt anything

[visual sun]

Ok it let me in

[viral ore]

nevermind then

try to make it crash again in the same way, see if its repeatable

[visual sun]

Im booting space engineers again

It booted!

[jagged ember]

nice

windows borked then unborked

[visual sun]

Ok i think it fixed whatever was happening there

[strong raft]

PRobably from the ssd getting jumbled loose w/o the screw in it.

[frank stirrup]

Run my .bat file thats pinned in #windows-ios once just to be sure

[visual sun]

It crashed
....

Said my device ran out of something and then into a problem after

[analog hearth]

memory?

RAM?

VRAM?

video memory?

storage?

e

[frank stirrup]

We cant help if you say it ran out of something

Give specifics

[analog hearth]

out of ur mom

[frank stirrup]

But it could be your page file

[analog hearth]

so, memory

e

[visual sun]

It let me in and memory was fine and now it just kicked me out and is asking for keyboard layout

[frank stirrup]

So did it crash?

You need to be specific and give details if you want help

[obsidian wigeon]

the problem started from his ssd coming loose

and he put it back on

[frank stirrup]

Most probably corrupt install

[visual sun]

And it was fine

[obsidian wigeon]

windows must've gotten corrupted during the process

[visual sun]

How?

[obsidian wigeon]

ssd suddenly coming off

that's how

[visual sun]

How do i fix it?

[obsidian wigeon]

reinstall windows

[frank stirrup]

.

[obsidian wigeon]

or do what rawr linked

[visual sun]

I can't get to that

[frank stirrup]

Yes you can

[visual sun]

Since my pc wont stay on

Geting to it on my phone wont help

[frank stirrup]

It doesnt have to

Just stay on for 5 mins

[visual sun]

?

[frank stirrup]

The thing goes through fixes in 5 mins

[visual sun]

Ok its a vid?

[frank stirrup]

its a .bat file

Windows commands

It opens in command prompt

[visual sun]

How would i reinstall windows?

Nvm pc decided to show me

Wait it loaded again i got to bat

Soo it found nothing

Then wth is happening

[frank stirrup]

.....

Press 1 to restart

Its not 1 big scan

Its a series of like 5

Restart pc and run the bat file again

[visual sun]

Its working for now

[frank stirrup]

Its not properly applied the fixes yet tho...

[visual sun]

I already hit 1

And after restarting it looks like its working for now

[frank stirrup]

Ah i see

Run the file again

[visual sun]

Ok

So fixed?

[earnest olive]

looks good

[visual sun]

Cool

Thanks gn

[kindred pawn]

Riddle me this
I install a amd chipset driver
I get less input delay in fortnite
After a few minutes
Suddenly I get input delay again

and even worse is that i can't gpu scale it just switches back automatically

i've been getting so many issues with my new pc it sucks

[flint sapphire]

How much input delay was there originally and how much has it changed? What’s your new pc specs?

@kindred pawn

https://tenor.com/view/rage-work-pc-stressed-pissed-gif-15071896

[fossil cedar]

You can turn off reply ping 🤦

[limber oyster]

@fossil cedar I fixed my motherboard boot/OC error

[fossil cedar]

Congrats

[limber oyster]

Got the Asus armory thingies and that fixed it

[kindred pawn]

There is originally 0, after a little bit it feels as though vsync was turned on, I know for a fact it's not on cause I tested it on and off, it's slightly less input delay than vsync

I have a gtx 1050, a ryzen 7 5700g, g.skill ripjaw 16 gb, b550m-k

[flint sapphire]

[fossil cedar]

Make sure xmp is on, having slow ram especially on ryzen will mess with your frame times

[carmine swallow]

Is there a huge difference between 3600 cl16 and 3600mhz cl18 ram?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

3600cl18 is almost never worth it over 3200cl16 even

As most 3600cl18 kits have horrible sub timings

If ryzen 3000/5000/12th gen intel go 3600cl16 or if you want to memory overclock, if not go 3200cl16 instead

[carmine swallow]

Ok ty

[quartz orbit]

Hi I am ordering the MSI MAG B560 Tomahawk WiFi Gaming Motherboard and want to know if I order 2 16gb of ram will it work or do I need to 4 slots of 8gb

[umbral needle]

Can anyone help me fix my computer

[fossil cedar]

Answered ^

[fossil cedar]

What seems to be the issue?

[sharp willow]

Noob to this chat, sorry if I'm breaking any form: I'm looking for some tips on building 19" Threadripper-based server with 8+ hot swap 2.5"/3.5" SATA drivers. I went to pcpartpicker, but am concerned that what I come up with may not either a) fit properly in the chassis, or b) be able to dissipate heat adequately. The cooler and CPU size are what concern me the most ... is there a channel to discuss this, or does anyone have direct experience with this kind of config?

[fossil cedar]

Pcpartpicker is great but as far as i know doesn't really include server cases and power supplies

[sharp willow]

y seems to be geared to building gaming rigs

[fossil cedar]

More just any sort of desktop

[topaz kestrel]

just send the pc part picker list and pato will halp u

[topaz gazelle]

Is this a good place to post my NewEgg PC build and get feedback?

[topaz kestrel]

yes

[topaz gazelle]

Cool! I'm building this around the MB and video card that I got in the shuffle a while back - this will be my first AMD system, and my first system in almost 6 years. Also never had an M.2 drive - but assume I can use the one on this list for system, and another SSD for storage. Would love feedback on whether I'm going too far overboard, if this is a good combo, and general feedback. Really appreciate it! https://newegg.io/d9753e9

[still roost]

PunkrGrrl#7763 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[inland cape]

@little osprey Could you let me know what case you used on this build?

EVGA X570 Dark + 5950X + 3090 FTW3```

Looks like it's holding an EATX mobo + a 3090 + radiator/fans and still having room to spare.  I've got a similar build (also 5950x + RTX3090) but with a Fractal case that's not deep enough to hold both my GPU and 360mm rad/fan so I had to move the radiator to the outside (no room on the top, either) and it looks like 💩  now.  Now I'm shopping around for a deeper case 😅

[fossil cedar]

What is your budget and what's the use case? And I'd use https://pcpartpicker.com/list instead of newegg.io so you can get cheaper prices from varying sites

[topaz gazelle]

Hey Pato! Thanks for a reply! Use case is an all around gaming PC - I'll move it over to parts picker.

[fossil cedar]

Perf, send me the link in the yellow box when you're finished and let me know your budget

[bold turret]

Hey any suggestions for a m2 ssd need it at 500-1tb size around and trying to get a good price but need a good fast a reliable for long term suggestion needed in uk

[stoic island]

Just need a cheap drive for storage?

75gbp for a 1tb sn570 seems good @bold turret
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09HKDQ1RN

[bold turret]

Well id love cheap but need it to work good and efficient as will be running a windows to it

Is that good?

[fossil cedar]

Sn570 is good

[bold turret]

@fossil cedar whats does the difference between m.2

[fossil cedar]

sorry? the sn570 is an m.2

[bold turret]

So what trying to ask whats the difference as a example between ur one

And mp510

[fossil cedar]

same tier drive just sn570 cheaper

[bold turret]

Really thats it so they work the same fast the same and life spend

[fossil cedar]

within margin of error

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nfpmP6/seagate-firecuda-520-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-zp1000gm3a002 this would be the next step up if you wanted faster but i mean not worth imo

[topaz gazelle]

@fossil cedar - Here is the system from PartsPicker. Its within my price range (would like to keep it under 2K, minus the board and GPU, which I already have). The parts I'd love feedback on are memory and M2 drive. For the ram, I was going to go with 4x16 @3600, but chose the 2x32 @4000 - the price was similar, and I'm not sure I need that much ram. I chose a full tower because I'm worried a mid wouldnt fit the two water cooled 2x fans, but if you know of a decent mid-ATX case that can do it - I'm game. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmGfsX

[bold turret]

@topaz gazelle u prob can find a much cheaper case thats whey to expensive

Btw what you going to use the pc as the item you selected are over done if is just for gaming

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/blain-predator-gif-20171253

@topaz gazelle ? Is this the reference? 🤘

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TgJVqp id do this

[strong raft]

P400/p500 are fine picks. Sabrent rocket ssd is good. Tons of ssd choices these days