building-and-recc-chat

[viral ore]

[frank stirrup]

Pink is where ssd goes. Red is where screw to hold down ssd goes

[formal tundra]

yea i have tried that as well but will re-test a bit more methodically

[viral ore]

i hate that they put it at an angle

[stoic island]

Make sure you unplug the PC from the wall for battery method

And give it a few minutes with the battery out

[formal tundra]

yep everytime i put my hand in the case the power is removed

[trail sundial]

Thanks, I’ll tell that to my friend

He just wanted to verify that’s where the m.2 should go

[stoic island]

Good practice

[trail sundial]

For laptop ram, it just needs to be a SODIMM at the proper frequency, correct?

[frank stirrup]

SAME

[stoic island]

Of the correct generation, yea

ddr3 sodimm doesn't go in ddr4 sodimm slot but that should be simple

[remote iron]

Question should I buy a cpu cooler or use the one that came with it?

[next beacon]

I'm wanting to build a small computer for linux that will be used for server hosting/ and a normal computer, but i dont know a good processor, and gpu i prefer an amd as the drivers are easier to get

[fossil cedar]

What cpu?

[remote iron]

i3 intel 10th gen

[formal tundra]

unfortunately still not getting anywhere. I am not even getting anything on either monitor -- using the motherboard DP and HDMI both monitors say no signal. I read a few posts on reddit etc and some of had luck reseating the cpu. thoughts? anything else I should try? Unfortunately I dont have known good DDR4 or motherboard to swap parts around ...

[fossil cedar]

Stock coolers fine ye

[remote iron]

Alright

[fossil cedar]

What's your pc budget and why host server on same pc?

[next beacon]

budget is $700 to $800, and i dont wanna server host on my main since i use it for game developing, gaming

[fossil cedar]

Are you plugging them into the gpu? And what cpu?

[formal tundra]

using the built in video, GPU too expensive atm. Intel Core i7-11700K

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

[formal tundra]

I could throw in a old gpu

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WHKn3Z I'd do this

[fossil cedar]

Nah should be fine

[next beacon]

issue with it is the one server hosting im doing needs 2gb worth of a gpu for some reason.

its fivem (gta rp servers)

i thought about getting an amd rx 550 2gb for it

[fossil cedar]

Odd why would it need vram? Could it not just use the igpus ram?

[next beacon]

i honestly dont know if the 5600g would handle it

if you look it up fivem requires a 2gb gpu for vram

[fossil cedar]

Seems to be the games not the servers requirements which makes more sense

[next beacon]

ah

so would the 5600g be prefect for it?

[stoic island]

no GPU?

[formal tundra]

I am using the motherboard video, with the price of GPU now a days. I didnt buy one and can get by with onboard for now. I have a couple old GPU I could try

[stoic island]

Should probably try those

[formal tundra]

kool cant hurt

[fossil cedar]

I'd go 11400 instead

[next beacon]

alright

[formal tundra]

still no video and verified on old pc the gpu is good. I also checked the CPU and everything looks fine.

[next beacon]

is their any amd alternatives maybe?

[formal tundra]

the motherboard did squeak at me for not having power on the GPU but still the DRAM light is on

[formal tundra]

I did add power to the GPU

[fossil cedar]

Not as good with integrated graphics for the price

[next beacon]

only reason im asking is for an aircooler on the intel it may not fit fully in the case im gonna build in

im either going with a nzxt h210 or a lian li 011 mini

[next beacon]

thats only if i go with the mini itx)

[neon hedge]

Got a question for you guys. I currently have 16GB (8x2) of corsair vengeance rgb pro @3600 . I would like to buy a gpu but obviously thats rather difficult atm so i figured i'd throw some money at ram. If i were to buy the same kit but 32GB (16x2) and throw those in together for a combined 48GB would there be any negative effects because of the sticks having different sizes? Running a 5600x on an Asus B550-A btw

[next beacon]

32gb is more than enough.

im runing 32gb with a ryzen 7 3700x and barely ever hit over 16gb unless im doing heavy game development.

[neon hedge]

Agreed, but im only asking because of the price on the 32GB kit not being much more than the 16GB

[next beacon]

i don't know if their would be affects with throwing in two 16gb sticks so on the safe side just get another 2x8 sticks same mhz and brand.

i almost went and got two 16 but i stuck with buying another 2x8 pack

[neon hedge]

Well if anyone has the answer to this send me and @

[formal tundra]

Any thoughts on my next steps? Guessing I should either buy a new mboard or memory to try and determine the bad component?

[fossil cedar]

Both of those cases are meh, i built you a list of better parts btw and the case has way more hdd trays

[fossil cedar]

Running mixed kits like that is a bad idea

[neon hedge]

gotcha

[next beacon]

i actually think im gonna go for a 2tb, 500gb ssd, and 8gb of ram for now

with the intel cpu

the fivem server doesnt use alot of space to be honest

[fossil cedar]

That's fine too, thought it was gonna be a nas type server

[fossil cedar]

I'd get 16gb tho, no real reason to get 8gb anymore

[next beacon]

alright

i've been thinking about getting a 16gb kit of crucial for it

[fossil cedar]

No need, the 50$ ram i linked is all you need

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[formal tundra]

Ok tried a known good PSU. still the yellow dram light is on. Its down to cpu, motherboard and memory. I have no known good units to try so will have to buy one of them and try to eliminate. What do you think is the likely suspect?

[frail valve]

Anyone know how to properly benchmark 2 systems? (this will be about builds in a second I promise)

[thorn wyvern]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hWmy4 aight im probably going to get bullied but idk what else to get

My roomate is going to share the pc for his editing so that is the only reason i need 32gb of ram

[fossil cedar]

Have you already bought anything?

[thorn wyvern]

no

need to make sure its good first

[fossil cedar]

Okay good, budget is 3000$ ish?

Do you want curved monitors?

[thorn wyvern]

yeah

yeah

[fossil cedar]

And why 2nd one need to be the same one lol?

[thorn wyvern]

idk he wants it to be the same

and idrc about the monitors

[neon hedge]

I'm not the expert here but would a 5800X and a b550 or X570 better fit his needs?

[thorn wyvern]

i also have a 60 inch desk

[fossil cedar]

No

[stoic island]

if they lived near a microcenter, yes, if not, no

[thorn wyvern]

32 miles

also do i get fh5 for xbox or do i get fh5 for pc when i get one

[stoic island]

then 5800x is a good deal, since it's 300$ at MC

[neon hedge]

If you buy it on xbox or Microsoft store you can play on both

I just wouldn't buy it on steam

[frail valve]

Is there a problem with the steam version specifically?

[neon hedge]

If you have it on steam you can't play on xbox

[frail valve]

Well apart from that

Is the PC version bad right now?

[neon hedge]

Other than that no

[frail valve]

Oh ok

[neon hedge]

Same game on steam as Microsoft store

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fYfYg I'd do this

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47cBsX any changes I should make?

[fossil cedar]

What's the budget? Assuming you dont have the gpu yet?

[little osprey]

2k

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43zpZZ

[little osprey]

Why is the one I showed not good tho

[stoic island]

H100i kinda bad, ballistix better ram, p31 faster rnd, suprim x is a way too expensive model, a-gf better psu, don't need to buy full price win10

[fossil cedar]

Also i fit 3080/6800xt in there instead of 3070

[stoic island]

I'd prob do pro vdh wifi if they wanted wifi

[fossil cedar]

Oh didn't see they had WiFi board but ye

[little osprey]

ahh ok but all this will be compatible with a 3070 right?

[brave jetty]

is this hardisk https://www.newegg.com/global/il-en/mushkin-enhanced-2tb-tempest/p/N82E16820226969?Item=N82E16820226969
compatible with
https://www.newegg.com/global/il-en/core-black-msi-gp-series-gp66-leopard-11uh-032-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834155852?Item=N82E16834155852

[stoic island]

Should be, the laptop has 2 m.2 slots

From mobo manual:

[brave jetty]

could you elaborate how this would affect me? im not very familiar with topic

[stoic island]

The laptop has 2 m.2 slots, and since it should've came with a m.2 ssd, you should be able to get another m.2 ssd and put it into the second slot.

[brave jetty]

so i wouldnt have a problem expanding the storage thsi way?

this*

[stoic island]

Shouldn't have any issues

[brave jetty]

and is that ssd compatible with the board?

[stoic island]

Shouldn't have issues, should be m.2 key m

[brave jetty]

thank you comrade, appreciate it

[stoic island]

lol

You're welcome

[brave jetty]

do you think this laptop is a good choice for gaming/ 3d modeling?

[stoic island]

Specs are good, but not too sure about cooling

[brave jetty]

how can that be solved

[stoic island]

If cooling is not good, which I don't know if it is, you could get smth like a cooling pad or undervolt things

[brave jetty]

i see makes sense

thank you

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[earnest olive]

i have a similar model

the cooling is quite good, but might wanna redo thermal paste while you're upgrading ssd if you plan to run cpu-heavy loads like 3d modelling

you already gotta open up the laptop so not that much extra work

[brave jetty]

i see, makes sense, thank you mate!

[earnest olive]

if you're feeling a little bolder try liquid metal

i used liquid metal on mine with great results

+50% sustained CPU performance 👍

[strong raft]

Bold because it's electrically conductive? In any case, I'm getting tempted to repaste my cpu.

[little osprey]

What's a good PSU with 750 wats?

[fossil cedar]

Yep, needa be more careful

[fossil cedar]

I gave you a whole list ;-;

[little osprey]

I know but I cant find it on the newegg custom pc builder

[little osprey]

Is this a good one?https://www.newegg.com/tools/custom-pc-builder/pl/ID-58?diywishlist=0&SrchInDesc=MSI+MPG#

[fossil cedar]

You not building yourself?

[little osprey]

Nah im using the newegg custom pc builder

[fossil cedar]

Why didn't you mention that lol

[fossil cedar]

No list

[little osprey]

my bad, this https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-a750gf-750w/p/N82E16817701010?Item=N82E16817701010

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[next beacon]

can you take a look at this list and see what you think? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/phv2gt

[abstract ridge]

he put a 3080 in there

[abstract ridge]

seems ok

the motherboard is the only thing im not sure about but im no expert

[next beacon]

i have the same motherboard right now with my ryzen 7 3700x

[next beacon]

thats just for my server hosting/linux pc

[mild axle]

What’s the best value online pc builder in uk?

[next beacon]

for prebuilts?

[mild axle]

Ye

[next beacon]

i wouldn't know that since i'm in america

[mild axle]

Ok

[next beacon]

most of the time i do custom builds since sometimes they come out cheaper

but i got my gpu and cpu before the whole scalper thing happened

[earnest olive]

yes i may or may not have almost made my laptop explode

spilled liquid metal on motherboard

[abstract ridge]

wouldnt it be hot?

metal liquid = 1000+ degrees

how would that cool your laptop
maybe when it cools?

[stoic island]

Gallium is liquid at room temperature

and liquid metal is a subcategory of thermal compounds

[abstract ridge]

ohh galium
i thought you meant like molten copper or something

[stoic island]

Pretty sure most LM products like conductonaut are gallium based

[abstract ridge]

you should have used liquid caesium instead >:)

[restive halo]

Im putting a build together for a friends kid who cant spend more then $600

Any thoughts on this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PbyLvf

https://www.newegg.com/white-musetex-mk7-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00EH-00022?

The list with this case?

[next beacon]

looks good to me just make sure you have a cpu to update the bios if it needs it.

most of the time you just need a usb to flash it tho.

[rich egret]

anyone here using i9 12th gen desktop ??

[restive halo]

Thank you. Will I be able to do the update with just a flash drive?

[abstract ridge]

no

[stoic island]

Would do better on the SSD, mp33 kinda thing, that case prob bad, could go mx330-g air

[restive halo]

The only big request was the kid wants alot of rgb if possible

[frail valve]

Well, everyone knows that rgb makes you a better gamer

yes that was sarcasm

[restive halo]

lol

This is what I was told

[stoic island]

So that's why I have a 0.1kd /s

[restive halo]

This is from his MOM For Christmas I want to build him a computer and I have $600. He plays fortnite, minecraft, Warzone. Loves RGB

[stoic island]

Ig you could just go for montech x1 for rgb

Even though it's not great

It has rgb

[noble junco]

Hello can someone help me build a pc, please and thank you!

[abstract ridge]

what budget

[abstract ridge]

like build a parts list or a pc in real life

[next beacon]

i don't know if that apu will handle warzone well to be honest

[restive halo]

ok so same build just go with that x1 case

[restive halo]

really

that was the only thing I could think of to stay in her budget

[next beacon]

my old gpu (rx570 4gb) paired with a ryzen 7 3700x couldn't handle it

i'll see if i can find some parts to help but i have a feeling the apu may not perform well with warzone

[restive halo]

Let me know if you find anything. Thank you in advanced

[next beacon]

max fps on warzone would be 36 fps most likely

but i got an idea

[restive halo]

ouch

[next beacon]

so 1080p medium is 100fps

so it will work but i think i have something help the apu a little more

[restive halo]

oh ok

[next beacon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pk3sRT

@restive halo

only thing is you may just have to buy an extra fan for the rear

i will say if it was in your budget the nzxt h510 elite comes with 4 fans and has really good airflow for my ryzen 7 3700x and rx 5600xt.

underload everything stays under 65c

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-no-please-no-gif-5026106

[next beacon]

its actually good for airflow.

i played rust for 12 hours straight and it stayed under 65c

[potent portal]

Yeah on a 65W processor

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3496-nzxt-h510-elite-case-review-making-things-worse

[next beacon]

nzxt made a h510 flow so that fills in for that

[potent portal]

The flow is a good compromise. At least it's not a solid glass panel that air can't get past.

[next beacon]

my h510 elite has a side vent and a bottom vent

i would recommend the flow if someone has a 5900x and a 3090 or 3080

[potent portal]

Trying to make air turn at a 90 degree angle is bad engineering

The side panel blows against the glass, not over any components

[worn wave]

The H510 Flow is not good at all either

They gave it mesh, not airflow

[potent portal]

Yeah, better but still far from good and cheaper options exist that include just as many fans, like p400a digital

[restive halo]

Sorry my kid was getting into things. This looks great I have a extra fan I can through in there

[next beacon]

alright that works just dont put it in the corsair fan hub

unless its the same fan and compatable

[restive halo]

Can I buy just one fan that is the same?

[next beacon]

yeah just check the ones on the corsair case

cause with icue your friends son can control the rgb on the fans and ram. with out any additional software

[restive halo]

nice

Let me check

[restive halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n4WKCz
This was just sent to me

[next beacon]

that quad core wouldnt play warzone at all probably.

[restive halo]

Oh

[next beacon]

your better off with a 6 core for better performence

[restive halo]

Ok. I figured I would ask because it was shown to me lol

I'll go with the build you made

[next beacon]

i use to have a ryzen 3 2200g i will say that thing could barely handle roblox.

the 5600g i would say is a better value at the moment due to the gpu shortage and scalper prices

i've been looking at getting a 3080 or rx 6800xt

[restive halo]

I had the 3700x/5600xt before I got the 3060ti

If I get the 5600g could she pair the 380 with it later or would it be a waste

[next beacon]

3080?

[restive halo]

?

[mossy venture]

3700x better than 5600g

unless you mean 5600x

[next beacon]

he was talking about his computer

[restive halo]

No the 5600g is for a build for somone

[next beacon]

this is what where talking abt, which i dont know to be honest

[next beacon]

for me i wouldn't upgrade to a 3060 i would move on to a 3080 or rx 6800xt

[carmine swallow]

Quick question: I'm buying a msi b550 gaming edge wifi atx mobo, but I can't find the frequency of ram I should use. I was thinking a 3200 mhz should be fine. What do you guys think? Can I goto 3600 perhaps?

[next beacon]

what cpu?

[potent portal]

3600c16 is good for ryzen

[carmine swallow]

Ryzen 5 3600

[next beacon]

3200mhz c16 should be perfect

right now i have 32gb of 3200mhz cl16

[potent portal]

Only if you can't afford $10 more for better...

[mossy venture]

3600 is best speed for most ryzen cpus

good bit better performance

3600c18>3200c16

[next beacon]

my ryzen 7 3700x with my rx 5600xt handles unreal engine 5, blender and all of the games i play.

[carmine swallow]

Yea I've heard but man those get so much more expensive where I live

[mossy venture]

it handling it doesnt mean its as good as it can be

it would still run better with 3600mhz

[next beacon]

the gpu is where it struggles.

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/9IY_KlkQK1Q

[mossy venture]

and it isnt like 5600xt is hard foir a 3700x to run

[carmine swallow]

Whats the highest I could go comfortably? Is 4000+ mhz going too high?

[next beacon]

nope

[mossy venture]

yes, on ryzen

3600 is perfect for ryzen cpus

[mossy venture]

if you compared 3600c16 to 3200c16 both with 3700x/3080, youd see a noitcable difference

[carmine swallow]

Just gaming or blender and other applications?

[potent portal]

3600c16 is about 10-15% better than 3200c16

[next beacon]

yeah well i aint spending $1500 on a gpu thats normally $700 or something

[mossy venture]

bro youre missing the point

with your setup yes its fine

but theres still a performance difference

a decent one at that

[next beacon]

i know if i got a new gpu their would be

[mossy venture]

bro istg

nvm

[carmine swallow]

Do you need a cooler for ryzen 5 3600 or stock ones fine?

[potent portal]

Stock should be fine unless you overclock

[mossy venture]

depends on your case/airflow

and if youre ocing

if you have semi decent airflow you should be fine on stock without ocing

[carmine swallow]

Nah no ocing for now but I could with my mobo right? It's msi b550 gaming edge wifi atx

[mossy venture]

yes

very easily

also please dont spend 200$ on a 3600

it shouldnt cost more than 160$ now

[carmine swallow]

But I'm in canada

Every decent cpu cost over 200$ here lmao

[mossy venture]

then translate usd to cad

[carmine swallow]

I'll prolly wait a bit for prices to go down. I know electronic prices take a little longer here to go down

It's 269 cad rn

[mossy venture]

yeah not even close to worth it

[potent portal]

Won't get much better than it is this week for a long time

[carmine swallow]

According to you it should be around 200?

[mossy venture]

check used 3600s

new 3600s are overpriced, and for some reason they havent gone down in price since new cpus have dropped

[carmine swallow]

The 3.8 ghz are going for over 330$

This is bestbuy price btw

[mossy venture]

wdym

[next beacon]

are you talking about the 3600x?

the normal 3600 should be cheaper then that

[carmine swallow]

There's two types of 3600 showing here. Ones 3.6 ghz and other ones 3.8ghz

Ah yes that's the 3600 xt

[next beacon]

that explains it

[carmine swallow]

Not worth it I'm guessing?

[next beacon]

the 3600 is more then enough

[carmine swallow]

Should I wait for prices to go lower than it is rn?

269.95 CAD for ryzen 5 3600

[next beacon]

whats the normal price?

[carmine swallow]

That's normal price

No sale

[next beacon]

this might be a good time frame since amd cpus are about to get eatten by bitcoin miners for l3 cache

which i've seen alot of my friends buying the 3000 series processor since they're easier to get hands on for now

[carmine swallow]

Seriously? First the gpus now the cpus too??

[next beacon]

i've seen miners having 3 5900x's mining.

its a waste to me.

[carmine swallow]

Is this cuz of ethereum 1.0?

[next beacon]

i think so

[carmine swallow]

I thought people are switching over to nfts

[next beacon]

some people are

[carmine swallow]

Cuz the whole crypto bubble collapsing soon

January end I think

[next beacon]

well i think they're making so gpus wont be needed anymore soon for bitcoin mining

which i would love to get my hands on a rx 6800xt or 3080

[carmine swallow]

Those are going for 3k$ here

Almost 4k$ for ti xD

[next beacon]

the 6800xt is $1600 in america and $1600 for 3080

the 3090's are going for $3k

[carmine swallow]

3090 are a myth in canada

[next beacon]

bruv

[carmine swallow]

They only exist in fairytales tbh

[next beacon]

a rx 6900xt is $1600 in america right now

[carmine swallow]

That's why imma just hold off on gpus till next year July lmao

[next beacon]

i dont really wanna upgrade to ddr5 yet to be honest

i'll stick to what i have now for another year and just get a better gpu

[carmine swallow]

It's not worth it. 3-5% performance boost for twice the price xD

All this means is, ddr4 will be cheaper

[next beacon]

and to be honest i dont wanna go to windows 11 either yet

[carmine swallow]

I'd go windows 11

It's lighter on ram

[next beacon]

i actually thought about moving over to linux only if it supports everything i need

[carmine swallow]

Linux is nice. Better than windows especially now

[next beacon]

yep

and no more buying $200 dollar keys

[carmine swallow]

I swear they go for 10$ in some websites no?

[next beacon]

they do

[carmine swallow]

Found on where they went for 30$ but I used promo and got 15$ off

[next beacon]

ah

[carmine swallow]

And I just use the free ms word

The online one

So basically I only pay greedy Microsoft the bare minimum xD

[next beacon]

i'm working on getting a server hosting pc for $700 thats gonna use linux

[carmine swallow]

700$? That's ultra cheap lmao

[next beacon]

i'm getting the 5600g for it

lol

[carmine swallow]

How do you even get to that price point these days without cheaping out on parts

Ohh

[next beacon]

well i cheaped out on rgb

i'm going with a white/black build

[carmine swallow]

Idk if that's worth ngl. I was told 5600g is a decent apu but apu+ gpu is considerably worse than cpu+gpu

[next beacon]

its just for server hosting it aint gonna be to bad

[restive halo]

@next beacon Sorry I had a work cal. What I was saying was the only reason I upgraded to the 3060ti when I did was I won it in the New Egg shuffle

[next beacon]

ah

[carmine swallow]

Why not just use cpu and a really really cheap gpu like a 1050?

Or 980ti?

Wouldn't that option be cheaper?

[next beacon]

not nessecary

the ryzen 5 3600 are like $200 right now\

i'm not gonna get a 5 1600 as i heard it didn't like certain ram

[carmine swallow]

I was gonna get that

I heard the similar things

[sharp tundra]

55C is pretty hot for 10% cpu usage isn't it?

[next beacon]

probably

mine is under 47c at 10%

but thats if i have the ac on in my house.

[carmine swallow]

Also one last question. How is the armory crate software? I heard people find it annoying for rgb setups and such compared to asus mobos?

[next beacon]

armory crate is horrible

[carmine swallow]

Dam

[next beacon]

i have a msi mpg b550 gaming plus and its amazing software wise and for my ryzen 7 3700x

[carmine swallow]

No issues with rgb or anything?

[next beacon]

nope

[carmine swallow]

Then imma just buy that. It's for sale 179 CAD rn

Reg price is 259$

Seems like a good deal

[next beacon]

i got it at best buy for $125 usd since my other motherboard died

[carmine swallow]

Yea i don't think I'm getting cheaper than this lmao

Thanks for the advices bud

[next beacon]

np

honestly this motherboard gave me a 10-15% over my asus x570

up in perfomence)

[sharp tundra]

How is a motherboard boosting your performance by such a significant amount?

[next beacon]

well lets just say the x570 i had survived a fry along with my gpu and cpu

my cpu and gpu are running better then they always have even before that happened.

[stoic island]

Run to run variation most likely

[carmine swallow]

How much is ryzen 5 3600 in usa rn?

[next beacon]

$290

overpriced alot tbh

[carmine swallow]

How much should it be?

[next beacon]

i would say $240-$200

the 5600g is at $240 on sale right now

[carmine swallow]

Do ya think it'll go lower than that?

[next beacon]

which one?

[carmine swallow]

3600

[next beacon]

i have a feeling probably not

[carmine swallow]

Its being sold for 269 here in Canada

Debating whether I should pick it up along with the mobo

[sharp tundra]

I'd get a 5600x tbh

[carmine swallow]

Those are going for over 350$

[sharp tundra]

Tf?

Oh wait, CAD

[carmine swallow]

Yee

[sharp tundra]

I was thinking that was USD and I was like, "That's how much I bought my 5800x for"

[carmine swallow]

You Americans always get electronics for cheap xD

[sharp tundra]

But yeah, 5600x would be worth the money spent on it

[carmine swallow]

It's almost 100$ more

Kind of on a budget for under 1000$

[sharp tundra]

It's up to you, but you'll get better performance out of it than you will a 3600

[next beacon]

just go with the 3600

[sharp tundra]

Well if you're on a budget then don't go amd

[next beacon]

its not worth spending the extra money to be honest

[sharp tundra]

Intel 10400f

Pretty solid cpu for less than both of those chips

[still roost]

Hawk-i#7682 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[next beacon]

oof moment

[carmine swallow]

I used the poop word starts with s

Jeez xD

I was saying is Intel worth it over amd since their mobos are expensive and kinda bad

[next beacon]

i don't plan on switching from amd for awhile unless i have a great reason to.

cpu wise atleast)

[carmine swallow]

Like msi mpg has everything I need and more. Meanwhile anything from Intel that comes close to that is like twice the price

[next beacon]

lol

[sharp tundra]

Give me a moment, I'll sort something out for you

[next beacon]

amd, was smart to use the same socket for awhile to be honest

all they did was add more features every year.

[carmine swallow]

All Intel did was "MORE OVERCLOCKING YEAAA" -.-

And if you want more ports etc, then pay up 500$

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

[sharp tundra]

If you got a budget of only $1000 CAD, the MSI Mpg isn't gonna be a good idea.

[carmine swallow]

I'm getting it on sale tho

[sharp tundra]

And you gotta get the rest of the pc too don't you?

[carmine swallow]

Pfft I'll just not use a case

[sharp tundra]

The case isn't the issue

Is this your first time building a pc?

[carmine swallow]

Yes

[sharp tundra]

Okay, so I'll recommend a couple things

First, if you're budget is only $1000 cad, you can't get the mpg

Second, you can save more to spend more on a pc soxyou can get the mpg

[stoic island]

higher end mobo doesn't give you that much anyways

[sharp tundra]

But honestly for your first pc unless your budget is higher, your expectations need to lower

[carmine swallow]

I dont mind going up to 1200$ but that is max

[sharp tundra]

I'll be honest, my first pc was not pretty at all

[carmine swallow]

I can lower expectations, it's just hard to find stuff at good price and know what's right when everything is expensive right now

[sharp tundra]

Well let a techie or someone knowledgeable help you find good deals.

That's literally their job here on this server is to help people

[carmine swallow]

On tech-deals thread?

[sharp tundra]

That, and also, using pcpp already finds the cheapest parts from a plethora of websites.

[carmine swallow]

I am using pcpp

[stoic island]

send pcpp link then

[carmine swallow]

Gimme a sec

[sharp tundra]

You're not looking hard enough then

Let one of us see the list and we'll see what we can change to fit the budget better.

[carmine swallow]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2znqcT this is an intel build i made a while back

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2GMysX this is what i was going for since i was able to push to 1200$ so i thinking a few parts more expensive

[stoic island]

ono

[stoic island]

Do you have the GPU yet?

or anything in that list?

[next beacon]

he has a 2060 on the list of the amd one

[carmine swallow]

No im waiting till next year summer to buy one

[stoic island]

that's the one I replied to

uh?

[sharp tundra]

What do you plan on using till then?

[stoic island]

When are you building it?

[carmine swallow]

Next year. Just buying parts here and there for now

[stoic island]

Don't.

[next beacon]

wait to buy tbh

[stoic island]

Bad idea to buy parts in stages

[next beacon]

cause if someone is a bad part its gonna be a pain

*something

[stoic island]

It's just asking for regret and doa and pain in general

[sharp tundra]

Save up more money, buy a gpu first, and buy the rest of the pc at the same time

[stoic island]

And just wait till you're ready to buy to make a list

the market keeps changing

[carmine swallow]

I always thought gpu was last buy

[stoic island]

Nowadays, first buy

Because it's the hardest thing to get

[stoic island]

And you should buy everything at once anyways

[next beacon]

hes right

[sharp tundra]

With how stock is, you want to secure a gpu first before buying anything else

[next beacon]

im waiting to get my hands on either a 3080 or rx 6800xt/6900xt

[carmine swallow]

So if I want to build this say next year, you reckon this would be alright? I mean only the prices would change between now and summer 2022 right?

[next beacon]

the prices will most likely be cheaper for everything and gpu will hopefully be cheaper

[sharp tundra]

Just keep saving money, then come back when you're officially ready to build it.

[stoic island]

Prices and parts will all change

Next generation AMD chips will likely be out

ddr5 supply situation would likely have changed by then

[carmine swallow]

So I should buy everything same day? Not even wait 1-3 months for good sales?

[stoic island]

decent chance 12th gen Intel prices could have changed

Within the same month is good practice

[sharp tundra]

You'll be able to build a better performing pc and might even be able to spend some extra on cosmetic items like rgb

[stoic island]

since the return window is generally 1 month

[carmine swallow]

Oh true

Ig I can wait. I'll save up, then I can prolly slot a rtx 3060

[stoic island]

By that point, 4060 might be out

[sharp tundra]

@carmine swallow if you can though, secure a gpu asap

[carmine swallow]

I dont think that's happening anytime soon. My gpu price point is 350$ or less lmao

[sharp tundra]

With still the same stock issues as the 30 series

[carmine swallow]

I'm not caving to this gpu craze

[stoic island]

who knows, that's the thing with talking about 1 year in the future

[carmine swallow]

Ig imma wait lol ty all for the advice

See yall in a year lmao

[sharp tundra]

You don't have to, look on bestbuy.com every wed-friday from 9am-12pm, you should be able to get your hands on something at msrp

[carmine swallow]

I'll look but the gpu craze is worst here in Canada

[stoic island]

that's asking for a lot yaknow

[carmine swallow]

Rtx 3080 going for 3k$

And 3060 going for 1200$

[sharp tundra]

Well it's the only way to find a gpu at msrp right now

[carmine swallow]

Huge jump between 1200$ and 350$ xD

I wish nvidia would release rtx 2000 again, but ig they are too money hungry for that

[stoic island]

They kinda did

[sharp tundra]

30 series are actually cheaper than 20 series

[stoic island]

like twice now

[sharp tundra]

Well, at msrp they are

[stoic island]

They just don't have enough capacity to make more

[carmine swallow]

Oh

Well that sucks xD

But thanks anyways, ig imma just hold out a bit longer

[sharp tundra]

Yeah man, keep saving and maybe buy the summer you'll have enough to get better parts, and MAYBE gpu stock will return to normal

Highly doubt that second part tho

[potent portal]

12gb 2060 is coming

[stoic island]

ya

[potent portal]

The idea being the older process node isn't as overloaded as the new so they can make more

I guess that's as close to a 3050 we'll see on desktop

[stoic island]

I mean, afaik even 45nm is backed up

but we'll see

[potent portal]

It is but not as much as newer 7nm and 5nm

[sharp tundra]

Are the "new" 2060s going to have the tech found in the 30 series like gen2 rtx cores and other stuff like that? Or is if just going to be a carbon copy of the older 2060s

[obsidian wigeon]

it's exactly 2060 with extra vram it seems

the bus width is narrower tho

192 bits instead of 256

[sharp tundra]

Ah okay

Why do I feel like miners are going to snatch all of those cards too?

[obsidian wigeon]

i kinda doubt it

but possible

[kindred pawn]

yo guys
im using a amd ryzen 7 5700g, im experiencing delays as if vsync was on but it's not
not sure why because it's 10x better than my old pc and it didn't have that before
does anyone know why
it's every game too, started off with rainbow six siege then moved on to dead by daylight and now tf2

[potent portal]

Reduced bus size means reduced profits, it won't be too bad. Scalpers on the other hand...

[sharp tundra]

Well there is always scalpers, but the reason why they are such a problem nowadays is because of miners buying up so many gpus, so gpus because a luxury item so people started charging more for them.

[potent portal]

The scalpers exist because of the extremely high demand vs the supply. They're only able to charge so much because people are desperate.
Miners only come into play in that they're more likely to pay scalper price because they know they can recoup costs, then sell the gpu again.

I mean, the scalpers have always existed but this is the first we've seen them in computers. They used to do concert tickets, shoes, anything they can profit on

[jagged nest]

ok i am first time building a pc (switching from prebuilt 1800$ budget its fine if its over by a bit) what do i do/ what parts do i get

[potent portal]

First thing is to get a 3080. It'll take time to get it for retail price.

$900 or so is what you can expect for a 3080 from retail, maybe $1000 depending on model

[obsidian wigeon]

i would get a prebuilt cause im impatient

besides they're not bad value these days

[potent portal]

Yeah but you'd have to compromise on the gpu most likely, and bad memory.

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

the ram is usually eh on them

not usually, all cases

[jagged nest]

well alienware memory and ram is pretty bad lol

[obsidian wigeon]

abs is good value but the ram is eh

[rare musk]

I have some issues that are appearing on my pcpp list and I was wondering what I can change to fix them?

Warning! The Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version F10. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

Note: The Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply length of 160mm is within the Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case maximum of 325mm, but exceeds the recommended length of 140mm. Please verify that the connector locations on the power supply will not interfere with the structure of the case.

Note: Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

[cyan plaza]

🥲 if only sites banned gpu selling for at lest a year

Ebay, Facebook, those siyes

[frank stirrup]

Ignore the 2nd one and get a better motherboard

Ds3h is bottom tier

[abstract ridge]

the bios is ok

ur psu might be too big for the case

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/39LwrH/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-aorus-pro

[rare musk]

okay thank you

[abstract ridge]

good motherboard

[rare musk]

okay i will add that

[frank stirrup]

I mean it can ship with an older bios and that mobo doesnt have flashback so it can be problem

Lol

[rare musk]

thank you 🙏

[abstract ridge]

oh it doesnt

[frank stirrup]

Also its better to share ur pc part picker list here so we can improve/give advice @rare musk

[stoic island]

ds3h is very sad mobo

[rare musk]

uhh im okay with my specs but okay

[frank stirrup]

@fossil cedar go cry

[rare musk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PkbgRT

im not getting the keyboard

i forgot to remove that

[idle nimbus]

hey i wanted to ask

is a 3060ti with ryzen 7 5700g good?

i bought a pc with it

and i just want to know whether it performs well in anything i throw at it

[stoic island]

You can swap mobo for a b550m aorus pro, which has flashback in case bios, and I say you could swap for a dif case like say p400a and grab smth like a A-GF 750w for PSU

should be good if you bought it

[idle nimbus]

fr?

ty bro

appreciate it

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ntQhnL

@rare musk

[frank stirrup]

Revo df 750vcheaper than a gf

[stoic island]

that's rebate

rebate suck

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/73HJvf

[frank stirrup]

Fair

Also u for the most important part on that build

The cooler

[frank stirrup]

@rare musk id do this

[rare musk]

do any of the warnings matter?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

it doesn't matter

[abstract ridge]

the list is bad
you need a 5950x and a 3090

[stoic island]

I'd swap to p400a anyways

case wack

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frank stirrup]

Guy wants an matx build i thinks

So i didnt change

I try to keep as much of what isnt a problem in there personally

Because the guy selected it because liked

[stoic island]

usually people pick mATX case because they think mATX motherboard means they can't use ATX

and mATX is barely every smaller than ATX

[frank stirrup]

Im not talking only matx tho

If its good enough i keep it

Helps peoples confidence too

Unless a much better alternative is available

[stoic island]

which p400a is

And won't have any trouble with psu

and is easier to work with and build in

[frank stirrup]

Eh the case he picked out is fine

You can suggest but unecessary tbh

[stoic island]

p sure dealing with PSU cables will be tight without sfx/-l

[worn wave]

Most compact ATX cases take the same space on a desk as a mATX case just they are taller and maybe every so slightly longer or wider perhaps

[stoic island]

But anyways p400a >:P

[frank stirrup]

P400a is very nice indeed

Sadly not available where i live

Imma snag a 4000d airflow

[sharp tundra]

Does anyone know why ddr5 has stupid high latency?

[frank stirrup]

Ddr4 has higer latency than ddr3 too

As do all the other gens

Remember this is early stuff

Things should be a lot better in a year or so

[potent portal]

Early runs are usually about as much performance as a good kit from the old gen

DDR5 is much more than higher speeds, other things like the dual bus affect transfer a lot.

[next beacon]

anyone know a good micro atx case?

(prefered good airflow also)

[topaz kestrel]

Fractal c mini

[limber oyster]

Lol I had a guy ask me to build him a starter gaming desktop for $200

I told him Chromebook and GeForce Said

[earnest olive]

you could probably put together a caseless 2200g system for $200

unless he expects peripherals in that price too then he's just living in fantasyland

[little osprey]

Can I DM someone about the upcoming build

its for kwanza/Christmas

[frank stirrup]

Ask here

No need to dm

[little osprey]

Ok I will put it in build pic

We themed it blue

my mom and I

I cant post pictures there

it wont let me

[frank stirrup]

Lemme repost for you

Or you can talk till level 3

And do it urself

Ur choice

[little osprey]

I will dm you the image

@frank stirrup Repost it?

[cyan plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Knightw0lf/saved/4YZgBm
should i change anything going for a white/blue/gray build

skipping on gpu right now and psu 😛

ill have to change the motherboard for the USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers.

[frank stirrup]

Get rid of that h510i

That cpu

And that aio

Get a 5800x and a galahad white 360mm

And a p400a digital white

[cyan plaza]

o opps forgot to change taht

[frank stirrup]

You dont need thermal paste

Coolers ship with some

Get rid of that too

That ram is bad too

[cyan plaza]

wait people use the paste it comes with?

[frank stirrup]

3600c20 is oof

[topaz kestrel]

i hope this is joke

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[cyan plaza]

looks like pcparts doesn't have the 360 version 😄

also p400a?

[topaz kestrel]

case

[obsidian wigeon]

i mean

[cyan plaza]

o

[obsidian wigeon]

using included paste is fine

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y848d/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4w

That ram

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not gonna make it bad

[frank stirrup]

It does

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

but yeah that corsair aio is eh

[frank stirrup]

I already fixed it foxy

Me speed rn

Brrrrrr

[cyan plaza]

i'm talking to a dumb cat so why should i trust you

[obsidian wigeon]

i was just replying to the point that stock paste isn't enough

[topaz kestrel]

lol

[frank stirrup]

Dont

I literally dont care

[little osprey]

Hi, I am sorry in advance if my question doesn't make much logic, but is there any sort of use (OTHER THAN MINING) into using Risers, PCIE 1x to 16x 16x, or vice versa?

[obsidian wigeon]

no other uses tbh

they use usb

which bottlenecks the bandwidth so hard

[little osprey]

but I see so many ''Internal USB/Adapters/etc. Cards'' on Amazon

and the mining stuff feels like its just mixing it all up to me (someone who's starting to learn about PC building)

[obsidian wigeon]

those aren't for gpus

[little osprey]

I mean for PCI PCIEs

and usbs

[obsidian wigeon]

ohh

those can be used to add usb ports

i guess

[little osprey]

I mean the 'idea' of multiplying and mixing stuff like Usb and SATA and PCIE

[obsidian wigeon]

but not in a way they stick outta the rear io

or add-on card for extra rear io

[little osprey]

but there is no advantage into multiplying your 1x PCI using a 16x PCIE?

or whatever in that same train of thought

[obsidian wigeon]

well

there is if you wanna do it

like add many network cards? i guess

[topaz kestrel]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BEYIMEI-Expansion-Connector-Controller-Internal/dp/B07PPN9XXW/ i never knew these actually existed

[little osprey]

because the guy who installed my Asus Z-590-A told me that to use any of my 16x PCI-E other than my GPU would just affect the performance of my GPU?

[topaz kestrel]

i mean i'd imagine using a pcie riser has a performance diff but its prolly so small its not noticable

[sharp tundra]

I think by using other pcie slots you are taking away resources from the top slot and also usually only the first and second slot are 16x, and not all second slots are 16x, but it will usually go down to 8x, 4x.

[little osprey]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z590-A/

thats my motherboard

it has 3 x 16x

[little osprey]

yeah those 2 extra 16x

[sharp tundra]

Not 3 16x, 1 16x, or 8x, 4x and 4x

[little osprey]

i would like to use them as wisely as possible

oh

i see

its a sum

[sharp tundra]

Yes

[little osprey]

ah I see

well then, wouldn't a 4x being turned into multiple 1x PCE with adapters be a gain of possible storage

with NVMe adapters

[sharp tundra]

I think that's why gaming on 2 gpus is actually worse than gaming on one because you are taking the resources from the 16x slot and separating them across multiple slots

[cyan plaza]

how big of a difference in ram for the MHz of 32 and 36?

[sharp tundra]

Link your build?

[cyan plaza]

i was going to get the royal but was wondering the Mhz

[sharp tundra]

If you're going AMD, ideally you would want 3600cl16

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan plaza]

o ok got it

[little osprey]

would something like this give more possibilities of nvme through adapters on the 1x
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B097H53Z4P/ref=sspa_dk_detail_7?pd_rd_i=B097H53Z4P&pd_rd_w=waIwT&pf_rd_p=a2b32c5b-02b0-4273-a3c7-c6bfabb067a2&pd_rd_wg=DiUiD&pf_rd_r=STYDHSQA5RPYS0N37N4E&pd_rd_r=3858ee73-a7f0-4f24-862d-2e80e1543e74&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUEZPVFFFNTRGMDgwJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTYyOTc1MU81VFdZVlZOQThFRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDM2NjA4M04yQzZMM1FaTlE5UyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1

[sharp tundra]

3200cl16 is fine, but there is a loss in oerformance

[frank stirrup]

3600cl14 better

[obsidian wigeon]

but 3600c14 is expensive

[cyan plaza]

and the price jump rip never mind then 😄

[sharp tundra]

Yeah

[frank stirrup]

No u

[obsidian wigeon]

but 3600c16 is basically a must get

for optimal perf

[cyan plaza]

adds $100 just for a slight faster speed

[sharp tundra]

I used to know how to do the math for it, but I think I remember the difference not being very big

[sharp tundra]

I'll be honest, I'm not too knowledgeable on pcie, I just knew what I told you about the resources being divided

And that 1 gpu is better than 2 for gaming

[little osprey]

Oh I got a quick question, is the Original Ethernet port of your motherboard as good/better/worse than one added with adapter card?

[little osprey]

kk

[sharp tundra]

Depends on what the network card is offering, my motherboard has a 2.5Gb ethernet port and a 10Gb ethernet port, most have a 1Gb, so it really depends on what network adapter you get.

You really shouldnt need higher than 1Gb unless you're doing a lot of data transferring

[little osprey]

yeah that makes sense

thx

[sharp tundra]

Only time I would suggest a network card is if your motherboard doesn't have built in wifi and you have to use wifi.

@little osprey also I didn't ask, but are you just building a gaming pc? Also could you send a link of your build?

[little osprey]

actually its kinda complicated

I upgraded a few things throughout the years but now i'm stuck at the GPU bottleneck

I somewhat rebuilt it on pcpartpicker

not sure how to share tho

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/cGrV3C

@sharp tundraah there you go

[sharp tundra]

That's your current build?

[little osprey]

yep

[tight sorrel]

thats a very big case for the hardware you have chosen to fill it with

[little osprey]

Is the newegg custom builder good? if anyone has used it before

[stark comet]

Hey guys, I have a Meshify C and B550 Tomahawk. I'm thinking of buying a NH U12S- will it fit in my case and with my two Team Force Delta RGB sticks?

[obsidian wigeon]

instead of buying that

[frank stirrup]

Frost spirit 140

[obsidian wigeon]

get pa 140 instead

or that

[frank stirrup]

Pa intel op

Frost spirit better on amd

[obsidian wigeon]

i forgot about that

[frank stirrup]

Also im pretty sure pa is 120mm

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

yeah

but either way u12s is meh value

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

if i wanna go noctua i would do nh-d15

go all the way to that best air cooler

[frank stirrup]

Or hear me out

Get an arctic freezer ii

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a great idea yeah

but just saying if i really insist on air

which i won't but just an example lul

[frank stirrup]

Smort

[stark comet]

cool! thanks guys. Those fit with my RAM?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[stark comet]

awesome awesome. thanks guys!!!

[fossil cedar]

What cpu you tryna cool and what country?

[stark comet]

R7 5800x. Philippines but a homie is in the US right now to bring it home for me

[fossil cedar]

In the us?

[stark comet]

yeah US sorry, edited it

[fossil cedar]

Then definitely an arctic freezer ii aio ye

👍

Just as long as it's 240mm+

[stark comet]

im looking at it - which size should i get? and never dealt with an AIO. any tips on maintenance or maybe point out some common pitfalls

[fossil cedar]

Don't need to do maintenance bar cleaning dust out of it, just like you would with an air cooler anyway

Up to you, if you want to use precision boost overdrive (pbo) I'd lean towards the 280mm or 360mm but idk if the meshify c supports 360mm

Also use the Ryzen offset mount

[stark comet]

ok 280 looking good

yo this is dope. hard to find good advice around

[fossil cedar]

Yep it does btw

No problem

[little osprey]

yeah I didnt have any option... I lacked space and everything else bigger was back-ordered... so I just went big

[hidden vault]

XD

[surreal rain]

can someone help me do a 600 euro build with a gtx 1650 low profile ?

[tight sorrel]

what will you be using it for?

[surreal rain]

@tight sorrel gaming on competitive fps shooters like cs go

[little osprey]

step 1: reset cmos

[formal tundra]

🙂

[potent portal]

Do you have the 1650 already or is the price going to be included in the 600 Euros? Also what region?

[surreal rain]

@potent portal i don't have the gpu and from eastern europe, romania

[potent portal]

Ok, the only way to get a 1650 is going to be the used market, and you'll be looking at used things for other parts too at that price range. I have no idea what markets there are and how they're priced in that region.

[surreal rain]

it's on retail costing 320 euro

brand new

[potent portal]

But then you'll have no budget for other things. The case alone will cost about 75 euro for a cheap low end model.

Then the cpu, motherboard, power supply, memory, and storage...

[surreal rain]

yeah..

but i don't want to go with a igpu cpu

[potent portal]

Understandable. What you can do is get a used workstation with a xeon for about 250 euro and then you can get the 1650 to put in.

[surreal rain]

i currently have a 750 ti i maybe i should get the other parts and save money for a gpu for later

[potent portal]

That wouldn't be a bad idea

[surreal rain]

yeah but if you saw my other texts you can see that i'm annoyed at the fact that i have a 240hz monitor and i can't uncap it because of the gpu

[weak yarrow]

im looking to upgrade and i have been since late 2019 but when the pandemic came, the shortage hit and now idk what to buy. my specs are: i3 7100, b chip gigabyte board, rx570 4gb 2x fan, 500w psu, 16gb of ram, corsair spec-02 redshift case, 3 ssds totaling near 1 tb and a slightly corrupted os. im planning to go win 11 when i upgrade but i want to go amd. if i cant go amd how can i fully wipe my drives (we have another win 10 disc)? i dont want to do a boot n nuke, so where can i get a adapter?

optimal budget is around 400 bucks

[potent portal]

To start you can fix the corrupted OS with the batch file in the pins in #windows-ios

[weak yarrow]

whats a batch file?

[potent portal]

Any particular reason you prefer amd?

[weak yarrow]

performance per dollar. i dont have a job so all my money comes from gifts and/or taking a few oddjobs to help the neighbors

[potent portal]

Intel is better performance per dollar. The $150 10400 is almost as good as the $300 5600X

[weak yarrow]

ah i see.

[weak yarrow]

who posted it?

[potent portal]

It's this one #windows-ios message

[weak yarrow]

so just copy paste it?

[coral sable]

I bought a new motherboard recently, the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk, and it’s the socket isn’t recognizing my Ryzen 3 3100. Any fixes?

[weak yarrow]

im not on my desk top rn so ill do it l8r

[potent portal]

There's a file you can download and it'll run automatically, it ends in .bat

[weak yarrow]

ok cool.

thx for the help

[coral sable]

I also checked and I have no bent pins and went back to the other motherboard in order to check my cpu and it worked

[weak yarrow]

"Supports AM4 socket 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors, and future AMD Ryzen™ processors with BIOS update"-msi site

[potent portal]

@weak yarrow Here's a platform upgrade that will allow you to do Windows 11 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNJX8J

[weak yarrow]

thx

[potent portal]

3100 is based on 2000 series architecture, might need an older bios

[coral sable]

Oh I see and I’m trying to flash a new bios

Lemme try flashing an old real quick

[potent portal]

I'll check what version works for you

[weak yarrow]

the 3100 is a 1st gen i think. so im just looking at the ite

[coral sable]

Oh thanks

[weak yarrow]

idk much about amd

gen wise

[coral sable]

The Ryzen 3 3100 is 3rd gen ryzen

[potent portal]

https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C91vA0.zip

[coral sable]

I think it came out as a budget option

[potent portal]

It's third gen but based on second gen tech

[coral sable]

Alright I’m going to check

[weak yarrow]

yeah it supports the 3100. i just checked to be sure

matisse core ver tho

[coral sable]

Yee

[jagged nest]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lncmy4 thoughts (btw i already have a 2080 super graphics card)

[fossil cedar]

Wait are you using a 2080 super or 6600xt?

[jagged nest]

wrong link

lmao

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JqxtVc

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[fossil cedar]

Have you already purchased the cooler?

[jagged nest]

no

idk why it shows up like that

[fossil cedar]

Ok

[jagged nest]

so what are your thoughts

[restive halo]

Happy Thanksgiving

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxhBsX I'd do this

[restive halo]

Anyone have thoughts on a mini ATX build?

[fossil cedar]

Micro atx? Mini itx? Or compact atx?

[jagged nest]

whats better i5 or amd 5800x

[restive halo]

I want to try and build the smallest I can

[fossil cedar]

The 12600k? At the same price as the 5800x if you include mobos, you could get the 5800x for like 50$ cheaper but if you have /don't mind spending the extra 50$ I'd get the 12600k

[jagged nest]

ok

so pretty much keep what i have

[fossil cedar]

Itx then, i mean bit more expensive than atx/matx bit harder to build too, other than that it's fine ye

[near garden]

Hello stupid question what would be the best way to give my pc internet a wifi card ? I’m confused currently my pc has been running off a small wifi extender with a Ethernet cable it has been giving me a bunch of lag and high ping recently

[fossil cedar]

Yeah usually a pcie wifi card although I'd consider looking into powerline adapters as wifi isn't the best for latency

[jagged ember]

I've heard powerline adapters are not super great if your house is old

[fossil cedar]

Oh true yeah need to consider that

[hexed stump]

Hi, i was windering if its possible to case swap an alienware r10?

[fossil cedar]

Not without a power supply, motherboard and usually cooler swap

[restive halo]

That's the smallest

[cyan plaza]

Hmm got stuck on the case and motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vfHbNP

So many motherboards

[coral sable]

I’m so confused about motherboard flashing

The red light on my motherboard is done flashing and my usb is done but my motherboard is still on. Should I keep waiting?

[stoic island]

If it's done, it's done

[stoic island]

just use galahad if you want the rgb :p

royals expensive

and go like p500a

and b550 aorus pro ac

[coral sable]

The bios flashback didn’t work and my motherboard still doesn’t recognize my cpu :/

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[cyan plaza]

Ya that where my work incentive extra cash for working all week is going to

[stoic island]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

Royals also have a very specific look

Lets go with that ye

[cyan plaza]

Ya I was aiming for a cold ice 🧊 feel for a computer

And probably my only build for next 20 years

I'm making a extra $100 just for working all week so that's nice

[fossil cedar]

definitely don't look like rocks

[humble fossil]

hi

[fossil cedar]

I mean if you like them and don't mind the premium then sure just definitely better for the money

[frank stirrup]

Pato go watch latest ltt video

[fossil cedar]

When i home i will

On bus atm

[frank stirrup]

Oh I see

U gonna be sadge boi when watch

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Why lol

[cyan plaza]

so we can't have 3 cpus on 1 board

[fossil cedar]

Not with that attitude

[cyan plaza]

Video, rendering and gaming on each cpu

[humble fossil]

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 x16 Video Card TUF-RTX3070TI-8G-GAMING

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Video Card TUF-RTX3070TI-8G-GAMING

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 x16 Video Card TUF-RTX3070TI-8G-GAMING

What is the difference and what is the best?

[stoic island]

Looks like you copied the same thing 3 times?

[humble fossil]

@stoic island https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-rog-strix-rtx3070ti-o8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126511?Item=9SIAPMXGES5442

https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-tuf-rtx3070ti-8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126513?Item=9SIAPMXGBZ5560

[cyan plaza]

It's slightly differnt looks like

[viral ore]

different boost clock speeds most likely

[frank stirrup]

Just watch

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-bwahaha-bobs-burgers-gif-5632048

[restive halo]

Im going to through a build together

[humble fossil]

@viral ore What is the difference and what is the best?

[little osprey]

nothing that'll make too much of a difference

clock speeds, and cooling solutions being the main things

STRIX has higher boost clock

[humble fossil]

what is the best

[humble fossil]

link please

[viral ore]

the strix is the better card

but also its shipping from hong kong?

and its 1500 for a 3070ti

dont get either of them

[humble fossil]

I want something good for gaming and fast response

What do you recommend

[potent portal]

Get whatever you can that isn't inflated too high over retail value

We can't afford to be picky on brands and models right now, just take what you can

If you have to buy a 3060 or 6600XT to hold you over until you can get a higher end model, do that

[humble fossil]

I will buy in installments

[little osprey]

u sent the link..

[cyan plaza]

that's why I'm building a pc without a gpu

[potent portal]

That's fine, you'll be able to resell the used gpu for retail price and pay off the installment plan if you find a better one before the installments are done

[humble fossil]

what the best 3070 ti 3080 3080 ti

[stoic island]

Best in terms of what

Value? Pure performance?

Thermals?

[humble fossil]

Run games easily and good frames

[mossy kernel]

What would be a good gpu to play fps games im going to be at 1080p

[stoic island]

So performance, 3080ti

But value is bad

[potent portal]

What games? At what resolution? What frequency does your monitor run at?

[stoic island]

And gets expensive

[humble fossil]

4k for some games

[potent portal]

4k basically requires a 3080 or better

And even then a lot of games can't hit 60 fps

[cyan plaza]

And only get ready to over pay

[humble fossil]

144hz or 165hz

[humble fossil]

rdr2 the crew 2 and more not much

[potent portal]

Yeah you need a 3080, 3080 ti, 6900, or 6900XT

[humble fossil]

:(

[humble fossil]

😅 ..

[cyan plaza]

I still haven't won the newegg raffle after 4 months of entering for a 3080

[humble fossil]

:/

[mossy kernel]

What would be able to play 1080p 144fps on fps games I was looking at a 3060 or maybe something lower if I can get away with it

[humble fossil]

I registered for a contest that I haven't won yet :)

[humble fossil]

ok what the best 3080 or 3080 ti

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-ducktales-ducktales2017-house-of-the-lucky-gander-gulp-gif-21467706

[fossil cedar]

For 1500$ you can buy a 6900xt straight from Newegg soo

[humble fossil]

I think Nvidia is better

[fossil cedar]

6800xt smh there is no 6900 btw

[fossil cedar]

[potent portal]

Hmm. Thought there was.

[fossil cedar]

Nah bit weird tbh

Think they wanted it to stand out or something

[potent portal]

Nvidia and and are neck and neck. Nvidia only has extra features like nvenc and dlss

[humble fossil]

idk

[fossil cedar]

And better ray tracing