building-and-recc-chat

[sand falcon]

Would be worthwhile if you were going to add a GPU, but cx is good enough

[fossil cedar]

ehh even if it was lower end gpu that cx would handle fine

[sand falcon]

Might be able to save a buck on the mouse and keyboard

[still roost]

CodingPenguin1#8267 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glossy fern]

Might be a few bad "gaming keyboard" combos on amazon for 30ish

[sand falcon]

Monitor could go down to $100 or so if you don't mind VA

[high kestrel]

I currently have a pre-built PC that I bought from Newegg several months ago. ABS
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali489/p/N82E16883360084?Item=N82E16883360084&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-084-_-11212021

I would like to at some point upgrade parts, but I'm not sure where to begin, or if it even matters where I begin. (Idk if I need to upgrade certain parts before others or not.)
I also would like to know if there's any services I can hire for replacing the parts, since I don't trust myself with doing it. (I watched a video on replacing the CPU, and I was like "Nooooope".)

[little osprey]

i9-9900k, gigabyte z390 aorus wifi mobo, 32gb corsair ddr4 3200mhz (2x16), 1tb sata hdd, 2 x 250gb nvme, corsair platinum 240mm aio, EVGA rtx 2070 super 8gb
would this be good to buy? its 1,250

[fossil cedar]

the only service that would do it would be like a local pc shop, the only thing i would do is change the cpu cooler to an id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 or gammaxx 400/gte

[fossil cedar]

sounds like a good deal

[high kestrel]

Well I know my CPU is a few generations behind. I'd like to upgrade to at least an i9

[stoic island]

a 10400 is definitely not obsolete at this point

And i3 i5 i7 i9 doesn't matter for much other than marketing

[fossil cedar]

its not, and no you really dont, youd have to replace motherboard and cpu cooler and possibly power supply and would be hard bottlenecked by your 3060 in gaming

[stoic island]

How I would approach upgrading, and I would not really upgrade anything until at least next year, because you really don't need to switch parts every few months:
First off, if you're going for 1440p or above, a GPU upgrade will probably be first, and you'll probably want a PSU upgrade first, something like a 4070 when that comes
After that, or if you find yourself CPU bound, I'd wait for next year and ddr5 to mature and to switch to a ddr5 platform, likely a 13600k or equivalent when that comes, with a new motherboard and ddr5 memory.
In general, if you want to, you can upgrade the case and cooler, probably want to do that if you're also doing some other major upgrade.

[slow valve]

What would be a good PC build with a price range of $1K-1.5K that is made for programming, gaming and streaming? I’ll be having a duel monitor setup of 24 inch monitors at 1080p with 165hz each. (PS I prefer Ryzen builds)

[fossil cedar]

can you narrow down your budget a bit, and 165hz in what games on what settings?

[high kestrel]

Aiming for either 1440p 21:9, or 4k 16:9.

[slow valve]

1.4K is the more exact range and I’m looking to play medium to high in triple A games or a good base line would be close to high in R6 and many MMORPGs at at least Medium.

[high kestrel]

Pretty sure R6 can be run pretty well on most PCs.

Mine runs it very well

[slow valve]

I don’t have an exact range in what to play, because it can change a lot from time to time, which is why I kept it very open ended

Like I love the Monster hunter series so imma probably get that as well

[fossil cedar]

then what you want to upgrade is gpu

[high kestrel]

Yikes. The amount of numbers on those price tags..

[fossil cedar]

okay cool

[fossil cedar]

you in the us?

[stoic island]

R6 is pretty easy to run

[slow valve]

Yes I’m in the US

But yeah I just want a generally great computer so I can play stuff that I can would plan to play or haven’t thought to play

[fossil cedar]

if you dont mind open box:
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala232-master/p/N82E16883360066R
if you dont want open box:
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali580/p/N82E16883360215
This is not as good value but bit more performance, for your case not worth it imo
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189

[little osprey]

hello, does anyone think i should build a pc with a $670 2060 or a 900$ 3060ti on newegg or buy a prebuilt with a decent card

[fossil cedar]

you can do a 900$ pc with a 3060 ti????????

if so definitely that

ohh you meant 900 for the gpu or 670 for the gpu?

neither

[fossil cedar]

whats your total system budget?

id get this instead of either of those btw

[little osprey]

yeah lmao

[fossil cedar]

whats your total system budget btw?

[little osprey]

aiming for <1600

minus the monitor

[fossil cedar]

Hmm, might be better off getting a 3060 ti/3070 abs prebuilt

[little osprey]

can you recommend some for me

[still roost]

jundoh#7119 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

💀

i’m new to this lmao

[fossil cedar]

Ofc, lemme see how much an eniac build would cost but I'm pretty sure prebuilt would be cheaper

@little osprey https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195

[little osprey]

anyone know if id cooling is gonna release lga 1700 brackets anytime soon for coolers like the se224xt?

current build: i7-11700KF
RTX 3080
2TB SSD + 512 GB SSD
32 GB RAM (3600)
ASUS ROG B560-G motherboard
6 Corsair fans
Corsair AIO Capellix
Corsair 4000x case
750w PSU 80 Gold

Should I upgrade mobo, and PSU? What motherboard would be a great upgrade ? Idk much about motherboards.

If you plan on overclocking your i7 sure get a new mobo

[fossil cedar]

Do you want to overclock your cpu?

[fossil cedar]

Also what power supply?

[little osprey]

z590 aorus elite 🙏

[little osprey]

No, but I do not know what the advantages are for overclocking. I do like to learn new things !

[little osprey]

it’s a be quiet one but gold for sure.. sorry I sound ignorant lol

[fossil cedar]

If you don't want to its fine then, the advantages are squeezing a small bit of extra performance for a bit more power and heat, if you don't want to overclock don't bother changing your motherboard

[fossil cedar]

Better than most people know tbf lol, I'll check which ones you could have now

[little osprey]

Ahaha got it! I just did a calculator for my power draw and it said I could benefit from buying an 850w via energy saving, but calculators on the internet could be super general too so..

[fossil cedar]

Yeah whichever one you have is good

[fossil cedar]

Wattage calcs dont do much as long as you don't oc your cpu your fine

[little osprey]

Sweet. Thank you! Glad I joined this group. Saved me like $500 lol

[little osprey]

My CPU does clock at 4400 MHz average when it’s gaming though, I don’t know the parameters that cpus have to be considered “overclocked”, but if that seems normal then I won’t touch anything and enjoy my baby

[fossil cedar]

Nope that's good, that would be your cpu boosting, overclocking is manually setting the frequency (clock) of the cpu

[little osprey]

You’re the best bro, hope you run into graphics cards at MSRP 🙏

[fossil cedar]

Thanks and no problems

[earnest olive]

that's not the only type of CPU overclocking 👀

tuning boost curves is CPU overclocking

[fossil cedar]

True but usually that's the one ppl mean

[earnest olive]

I did boost curve overclocking on my 11th gen Intel chip 😳

[little osprey]

Bro so the last thing I bought for my build was the GPU and I had to wait until it came it because the i7-11700kf does not have intergrated graphics.. I think that goes for all 11th gen processors? I was praying static wouldn’t take my fetus of a build till the mail came in lol

[earnest olive]

no, F means no integrated graphics

i7-11700K has integrated graphics, i7-11700KF has no integrated graphics

otherwise the same chip

[fossil cedar]

11700 also has integrated graphics just no oc ing

[earnest olive]

they distinguish them so that they can still sell units that have a defective igpu but the rest of the CPU is working fine

simply disable the igpu and make most of the money still

that's also why you will see less stock of F models as the production run matures

pato did you know there are HF laptop cpus

[little osprey]

I was misled! Thanks for the wisdom bro

[earnest olive]

cursed 😳

[fossil cedar]

No, whyyyyyyyy

[earnest olive]

I mean it's fine for anyone that doesn't care about battery life

but man it's weird seeing "i5-10300HF" lol

[little osprey]

I feel like I’m at a verrry small advantage though because no IG means my OS won’t potentially default to using IG instead of my GPU lol

[earnest olive]

oh wait it was 9300HF

[earnest olive]

every board I've used since 4th gen has defaulted to disabling the igpu if a dgpu is detected

and even then you'd have to plug the display cable into the wrong port to actually start accidentally using your igpu

actually I wish I had an igpu so I could drive my second and third monitors with it

but sadly no igpus on ryzen

it would be nice to offload wallpaper engine to igpu, I do that on my laptop

[fossil cedar]

It only dynamically switches on laptops

[little osprey]

I used to have the defaulting to IG problem when I was gaming on my laptop though (i7-10750H)

[earnest olive]

interesting

[little osprey]

Ah there we go lmao!

[earnest olive]

I have an i7-10750H and i7-11800H laptop

never experienced such a problem

[earnest umbra]

hey so i need a little help my friend who helped me build my computer, his computer is a little older and i want to build him a replacement but i dont know what part to get him as a upgrade(hes a strictly intel and nvidia guy) hes current build is a i7-7700k with a msi 1060 6gb ( i think its a overclocked card because we both have the same card but hes runs better that mine) and he always trying to run small server because he has really good internet the only thing i know imma get is the case which is a corsair 4000 d or x airflow

[earnest olive]

both correctly selected the 3070 in all games even light ones

I manually set it to use igpu for light games

[little osprey]

I think he should get the part that’s harder to get

[earnest umbra]

im paying for it

[earnest olive]

he already has the best CPU for his current platform, but if he's good enough at following instructions he can mod his board to accept 8th and 9th gen CPUs - it's not too difficult as most of it has been automated by now

[fossil cedar]

What's the budget for upgrading? And only choosing nvidia and intel only is just straight up ignorant

[earnest olive]

i7-7700K to i9-9900K would be a very steep upgrade on the same board

[fossil cedar]

If the board has good enough vrms

[earnest umbra]

i have 4k atm soo idk

[earnest olive]

can always run it at stock/undervolted and it'll still be a good chip

okay if you have 4k then no need to bother with saving money LOL

12900K, 3090, ez clap

[fossil cedar]

Well 4k is a brand new 3080 ti 5950x pc and having plenty spare

[earnest umbra]

i also have a 15-10600kf and hes always saying he would love my cpu because of how well it runs

[fossil cedar]

If you don't want to spend 4k lol that's a good starting point i guess

[earnest umbra]

i was thinking about getting the new cpu for myself and giving him my nearly new i5-10600

but what cpu is better a i5-10600 or i7-7700

[earnest olive]

only worth upgrading from the 10600K if you have a 3080 or higher and play at 1080p360

[earnest olive]

10600K puts 7700K in the dirt not even a competition

[earnest umbra]

im trying to get a 3080 for both of us

[jagged ember]

that's 3 generations apart

[earnest olive]

and do you plan to play at 1080p

[earnest umbra]

my monitor is 2560x1440 so id like to play to my monitors full potential

[fossil cedar]

10600k is fine for a 3080 tbh

At 1440p at least

[earnest umbra]

alright

well thanks everyone

[fossil cedar]

Np

[earnest olive]

yeah doesn't really need a upgrade

but yeah you can give it to him if you just want a shiny new toy for fun

[little osprey]

can someone give me some recommendations on prebuilts <$1700

[fossil cedar]

If you don't mind open box
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali454-gladiator/p/N82E16883360038R
If you don't want open box
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189

[little osprey]

are there any differences, downgrades, upgrades from the second and https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195

also getting a 27 inch 1440p 165hz monitor

[little osprey]

Oooh with those specs and a case upgrade you could get some niceee aesthetics without breaking the bank 😮

[fossil cedar]

No case upgrade needed

[little osprey]

Performance-wise I agree, I mean like if he’s aiming for an aesthetic, he could just migrate all the components to a case to his liking and the initial purchase isn’t too expensive either ^_^

[fossil cedar]

3060 ti is about 10% worse than 3070, 10700kf is a bit better cpu for gaming, better for multi tasking too, the open box one also has an aio, rgb ram and a 1tb ssd instead of 500gb

[earnest olive]

changing case is more work than just building it yourself

no point getting a prebuilt just to re-case it

[little osprey]

bruh lmao

dk what to do

[little osprey]

With the GPU market rn, that’s what I’ve seen 😅 people buying a prebuilt then migrating cases ahah

[earnest olive]

meh, you can buy a scalped 3070 for 950 including tax

could still end up cheaper than that prebuilt with a scalped 3070 custom build

[little osprey]

Ah I see so what I have seen is the impatience of other builders then! 😮

[earnest olive]

prebuilts are just what they've always been, less work

thanks to the work of reviewers we're starting to see better prebuilts crop up though

very nice to see prebuilts with mesh cases and decent power supplies

[little osprey]

Btw I just finished building my PC last week and it took me a month but like four months of planning lol.. I’m pretty new. Don’t mean to sound arrogant, just wanna help ^_^ honestly stared at prebuilds for a good half a month then decided to say “fk it” because of lack of reviews too lol!

[analog hearth]

@ripe wedge how’s the compute stick?

what’s the heaviest thing you’ve ram on it and how was the experience?

[little osprey]

alr thank you

[ripe wedge]

windows defender

slow as crap

lol

[analog hearth]

lolll

[ripe wedge]

its ok for very very basic stuff

like web browsing and yt

nothing else basically

[analog hearth]

could i play Roblox on it?

[fossil cedar]

Np

[ripe wedge]

maybe at 10 fps or less

but basically got the compute stick for free so cant complain I guess

[analog hearth]

loll that’s weak

[little osprey]

Can someone say a good pc with parts and everything that can run Euro truck simulator 2 highest graphics with like 100 FPS and can run gta on medium and fs22 with highest budget 600-800$

[analog hearth]

lol nope

what is fs22

[vestal flare]

Im excited and happy. I bought a i3-10100F, got a gpu from a friend, just hyped to build my pc after i get everything else. I had no choice but to get the 10100f bc the 1600af was and still is about 165.99 but the 10100f was like 99.46 total and out performs the 1600af and i couldnt get a 3300x because its hard to find one at msrp or close to it honestly its like 200+ some right now

[analog hearth]

congratulations

[vestal flare]

Ty ty

[desert gulch]

Ahh the good old days when the 1600af was 90 bucks

I barely remember those

[analog hearth]

i miss those days

[little osprey]

the influence of capitalism

[little osprey]

question

[analog hearth]

ask

[little osprey]

so pato recommended this open box and someone said i could migrate my components to another case
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali454-gladiator/p/N82E16883360038R

is it worth it

[desert gulch]

Depends on what you do

[analog hearth]

uhhh idk if it’s a good value (i genuinely don’t know) but you should be able to put it in another case

[desert gulch]

But yeah for it's price it's pretty good

[analog hearth]

it looks like just an ordinary Asus motherboard

[little osprey]

uh

[analog hearth]

that’s kind of an a-hole (mod check?) move if it’s some proprietary form factor

[little osprey]

dk what to do 💀

[desert gulch]

It's a z490p

As standard as it gets

[analog hearth]

ah

yeah it’ll for sure work

[desert gulch]

Abs never uses proprietary parts, they're not an oem, they're an SI

[analog hearth]

you could buy that whole system just to disassemble it and put the parts into another case if that’s what you’re asking

i’ve never heard of abs so i wouldn’t know lol

[little osprey]

open box is like used right

[desert gulch]

It's neweggs brand

Not necessarily

Just means a cord may be missing or something

But it's highly doubtful

Usually means someone bought it and returned it, didnt like it or something

[analog hearth]

could mean anything. could mean parts are stripped (correct me if i’m wrong), could also mean it was never turned on

[little osprey]

alr

think i should just buy this one or some other abs prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey I'd recommend top mounting your aio if you have enough clearance btw

[high kestrel]

I want to get more storage space for my PC, but I don't know much about PC parts. Do I need a specific kind for my PC? Or are they all universal or something?

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali489/p/N82E16883360084?Item=N82E16883360084&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-084-_-11212021

This is my PC.

I want an SSD with far more storage space than just around 500GB.

[fossil cedar]

1tb ssd? 2tb ssd?

[high kestrel]

What would the price look like for those 2?

[analog hearth]

probably $300-$400 total

[high kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804?quicklink=true
Found this

[analog hearth]

Samsung moment

[little osprey]

whoa

are you disrespecting samsung

[high kestrel]

Idk what's good and what isn't..

[fossil cedar]

For 1tb, 70-130$ for 2tb 170-220$

[high kestrel]

Ty Pato

[fossil cedar]

Samsung do make good drives but overpriced

Np

[little osprey]

oh lol

[high kestrel]

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for 1tb and/or 2tb?

[fossil cedar]

You in the us right?

[high kestrel]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QggQzy/crucial-p2-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p2ssd8

[high kestrel]

Thanks

[little osprey]

pato

do you think i should get that open box

and change the case

[high kestrel]

Is there any difference between the speed that they load things? Or is it the same across all SSDs?

[fossil cedar]

no need to change the case, also changing case is more work than building from scratch btw, but id get the open box one

[fossil cedar]

there are differences but they are good cheap ssds

[high kestrel]

Would you be able to tell if they're faster or slower than the SSD I already have on my pre-built?

[sharp tangle]

lmao how bad are i5 4690k's these days? have one in my first build just curious lol

[little osprey]

better than my i7-3537u

[high kestrel]

Newegg says my current storage is "512 GB SATA SSD"

Doesn't say any more than that, and idk how else to check.

[sharp tangle]

if u go to task manager, over to the performance tab and look in the top right corner itll say the model of it

[high kestrel]

T-FORCE 512GB

[sharp tangle]

550 mbps read and 500 mbps write

[fossil cedar]

they would be faster

[little osprey]

honestly might just get this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189

[high kestrel]

Sweet. Tyvm.

[fossil cedar]

fair enough

[fossil cedar]

np

[rich egret]

anyone using Core i9 12th gen? desktop

[fossil cedar]

No but i can answer almost any query you have about it

[little osprey]

I don’t believe I do.. the fans hit my ram 😪 my next project is probably migrating to a lian li and.. moreeee fansssssss

I was initially going to, then one heartbreaking mm ruined my day lol

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[void swift]

Hey guys I'm gonna need an opinion on this. (This is going to be my first build)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qhz7cT

[trail sundial]

The R5 1600 is pretty outdated by this point

but nice job finding a rtx 2060 for that price

I would do a lot for a deal like that

[stoic island]

I'd change everything but the GPU

[mossy venture]

please dont spend 150$ on a 1600

thats as much as a 3600 should cost

better off buying a used 3600 or a new 10400/b560

[stoic island]

something more like
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xsy4RT

[earnest olive]

"but muh youtube said ryzen 5 1600af budget king"

[gaunt moat]

I said id be back when i did some stuff i ended up keeping my 1080ti got it checked out it was just something with drivers being bugged out so its perfectly fine now and i found somone that really needed an x570 mobo and they traded me an msi rtx 3070 for it so i managed a 3070 and now figuring out a way to turn that into a quick sell with the 1080ti and the 9700k to turn around for a 3080/3080ti

[earnest olive]

they traded a 3070 for an x570 mobo????

straight trade?!

even the top end x570 dark isn't worth nearly as much as a 3070 LHR

please tell me you had to add money lmao

[mossy venture]

does the 3070 work?

[void swift]

understandable have a nice day

[wispy walrus]

is this a decent pc?

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-arch3-0-0181-archangel-3-0-gaming-computer-pc-desktop/p/3D5-000Z-00029

i know its skytech but I really like the specs

[stoic island]

For the price, no

ABS made a prebuilt with those specs for like 1200$ or 1300$

[potent portal]

Agreed too expensive for 3060/3700X

[wispy walrus]

I prefer Ryzen over intel

just a personal thing

[potent portal]

I've seen one with a 3070ti for that price

[stoic island]

Zen 2 is just not really worth buying atm

Zen 3, great, if the prebuilt price is good

[void swift]

I hate this shortage

[wispy walrus]

by any chance are you guys able to help me find a pc that is good and the specs are Ryzen and at least a 3060 and above ? please

[void swift]

everything is jacked up now

[wispy walrus]

I have been having such a hard time finding good stuff for the right price and Im some what new to this stuff

[void swift]

Hey before the shortage wasnt the 3600 ryzen $200?

[wispy walrus]

yeah

[stoic island]

A year ago, 160$

[wispy walrus]

something like that

[stoic island]

But also, right now, 10400 is 180$ for better performance than 3600 in games on an unlocked platform

[void swift]

WHY

MUST THIS SHORTAGE MAKE MY WALLET CRY

I just want to make a pc for my baby brother man

[wispy walrus]

um lets just say that this world is poo poo rn

lmao

[stoic island]

AMD dominating lower end is one year ago

Intel has the sub-200$ CPU market locked down right

[void swift]

now its 232 dollars now

man

[stoic island]

Honestly, everything but GPU has been fine

[wispy walrus]

@stoic island are you able to help find a Ryzen 7 3700x RTX 3060 or somthing like that

[void swift]

a 1600 is 200

[wispy walrus]

Please?

[stoic island]

On mobile rn, I could look later

[void swift]

Theres no shortages but everything is jacked up

[wispy walrus]

damn ight

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala239-gladiator/p/N82E16883360103R?quicklink=true

Case isn't great but specs are good

[stoic island]

If you're fine with open box, that is good

[wispy walrus]

I dont really care about the looks of the case lol

[stoic island]

SSD prices have only been going down, newer PSUs have been getting cheaper, mobos have stayed mostly constant pricing, cooler pricing constant :p

[potent portal]

By the case not being great I mean the parts will get very hot inside

[wispy walrus]

is there a huge difference between Ryzen 7 3700x and A ryzen 5 5600x?

[void swift]

well that stuff of course but

CPU's and GPU's are in the gutter to say the least

[stoic island]

So 80% of the parts have either gotten cheaper or stayed at same price :p

[potent portal]

5600X is better at single core (gaming) and almost as good at multi core

[stoic island]

Nah, the best option just switched companies, when AMD dropped zen 3, Intel dropped prices, and that has made them great for the past few months

GPU stock did go through the floor though

[void swift]

Understandable

[idle nimbus]

guys im going to microcenter in a few more days, do u know any good gaming pcs there? (rockville, MD)

[void swift]

Hey maybe when my pockets get bigger I will switch to AMD eh?

Intel is good ol reliabe

reliable* for the past few years so

[stoic island]

I mean, it's all about who offers the best performance at a price at any moment

[void swift]

eh

[stoic island]

Whether it's amd or Intel doesn't matter that much

[void swift]

yeah

but people man they will still loyal to bitter end

[stoic island]

Most people didn't care about AMD and asked specifically for Intel 2 years ago :p

[wispy walrus]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-arch3-0-0181-archangel-3-0-gaming-computer-pc-desktop/p/3D5-000Z-00029 will this have a glass part on the case or will it be dead ass open

[void swift]

ok

[wispy walrus]

like will the parts be exposed lol

[stoic island]

That's a glass side panel

[wispy walrus]

ok good lol I just dont see it in the picture lol

[idle nimbus]

u can see the reflection of the glass

[stoic island]

Unless it's an open air bench or some exotic case, it'll have a side panel.

[idle nimbus]

on the bottom left

guys im going to microcenter in a few more days, do u know any good gaming pcs there? (rockville, MD)

pls tell

[void swift]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

hey is this a good PSU

[obsidian wigeon]

for that price you can get something better

[void swift]

aight

[obsidian wigeon]

oh 49.99

but 550w psu is low for many gpus nowadays, just to add

[void swift]

thanks

[idle nimbus]

nhntnhmthmhtm

[obsidian wigeon]

microcenter's prebuilts are usually bad value

[void swift]

hey is 4 cores good enough these days?

[obsidian wigeon]

newegg has nice ones you can order online

[idle nimbus]

o

[obsidian wigeon]

well if it's 10100f it's okay

[void swift]

Thanks

[idle nimbus]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

but i would recc something at least 10400f

[idle nimbus]

ill go just to see

[void swift]

was just look at that HA

[obsidian wigeon]

i can make a parts list for 5600g rig if you want

[idle nimbus]

who me?

[void swift]

Im fine thanks though.

[obsidian wigeon]

depending on budget that is

[void swift]

800

[idle nimbus]

oh him my bad

[obsidian wigeon]

okie

[void swift]

-900

[obsidian wigeon]

that's definitely doable

[idle nimbus]

him/her/them my bad

[void swift]

Him

oh wow green cool

[obsidian wigeon]

@idle nimbus so what's your budget?

[idle nimbus]

mmmm

[potent portal]

Green means you can post links and pics now

[obsidian wigeon]

i can look up some stuff for ya on newegg

[idle nimbus]

1200-1500

[void swift]

yup

[obsidian wigeon]

usd?

or cad

[idle nimbus]

usd please

[obsidian wigeon]

good

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189 @idle nimbus

the best i found so far

[idle nimbus]

ooh

[obsidian wigeon]

i would suggest cooler swap just in case

[little osprey]

lmao i’m getting that

[idle nimbus]

do u have any between 1.2k to 1.3k?

just asking

[obsidian wigeon]

i do

[idle nimbus]

since i just realized i needed to buy a monitor as well

[obsidian wigeon]

but gpu is a good chunk weaker

[idle nimbus]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it's down to a 3060

[idle nimbus]

oo

im still down for a 3060

[obsidian wigeon]

3060 is like 2070 perf?

3060ti is 2080s

the difference is uhm, large

but if you mainly do 1080p gaming

3060 is plenty

[idle nimbus]

i mainly do 1080p

[obsidian wigeon]

well gotta go for a bit

brb

[idle nimbus]

i just need something which can handle val, fort, minecraft, etc

alr

[potent portal]

Those are all more CPU dependent anyway, especially at 1080p

[idle nimbus]

ye but as stupid as it sounds

i need it for education as well lol

sorry i pinged the wrong person on accident

i meant to ping fal

my

my bad

since im very dedicated to my education

and i want something which would increase my morale in education a bit more

since ever since my laptop broke

i haven’t had anything to do school work on

which is a downside

so i need to get something fast lol

thats the story fal

[lethal steppe]

whats important in a build for a pc that's used just for streaming videos like watching movies?

[potent portal]

You could get a cheap quad core PC with integrated graphics for basic stuff like that

i3 10105 for example

[idle nimbus]

yeah also need for hardcore gaming as well

since im planning to expand

[obsidian wigeon]

the 3060 ones will still do plenty for 1080p

[idle nimbus]

to gta

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme find one

[idle nimbus]

alr great

[potent portal]

3060 can handle AAA games at 1080p just fine

[obsidian wigeon]

as for monitor

[idle nimbus]

tysm

[obsidian wigeon]

grab msi g241/242

[idle nimbus]

oo

yeah ive been recommended that several times from friends

will check it out

[lethal steppe]

so just getting a good cpu but like i wouldn't need a gpu or something, integrated graphics on mobo is enough right?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali570/p/N82E16883360205?IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

cheapest 3060

[lethal steppe]

does it need giga ram as well or just like 16 gbs/avg speed okay?

[idle nimbus]

lol time for me to get an entirely new table as well XD

oh i like that pc

[obsidian wigeon]

non gaming you can just go cheap on ram

8 gigs is fine

and get something like i3 10100

[potent portal]

If not for gaming even 8gb is fine

[lethal steppe]

okay ty O_O my friend just wants something to stream movies, they have like a giga 4k tv but they said they aren't gonna use it for anything else besides movies and the laptop they use now is kinda crapping out on them

[obsidian wigeon]

i can make a parts list real quick

if you will

[lethal steppe]

i would highly appreciate that

[obsidian wigeon]

kk

[lethal steppe]

im still rookie at this stuff so i came to ask for help

[frank stirrup]

Just for watching 4k movies yeah?

[lethal steppe]

but because i built my pc irl my friends ask me xD

[lethal steppe]

yea

[frank stirrup]

Nothing else?

[lethal steppe]

nope

just streaming movies

[idle nimbus]

btw foxy is a 6600xt with ryzen 5 5600g

good?

[lethal steppe]

they have other pc's for work and stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

10100 is so expensive

[frank stirrup]

Depends on the price

[idle nimbus]

1,199

usd

[potent portal]

Check 10105 also

And 9100

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

10105 cheapest

[frank stirrup]

Its not worth nearly that much

[idle nimbus]

oh

ok then

ty

[obsidian wigeon]

from where?

[obsidian wigeon]

how much storage do they need?

if it's not much i can do ssd

[idle nimbus]

microcenter

website

[obsidian wigeon]

hmn

pics?

[idle nimbus]

their cases are so bland looking though btw

[obsidian wigeon]

i can't go there without a vpn

[idle nimbus]

ill show u

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[lethal steppe]

uh i think they will need some storage in case they go back to downloading movies

[obsidian wigeon]

hmn

[frank stirrup]

Oh the entire pc is for 1100

[obsidian wigeon]

i slapped 1tb ssd in there

[frank stirrup]

Not just the gpu

[lethal steppe]

ya

1tb should be plenty

[idle nimbus]

ye

[obsidian wigeon]

well

the case has no airflow on the front

basically

[frank stirrup]

I would do 250gb ssd and 2tb hdd tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

i would rather do the abs

oh good idea

lemme do that

[idle nimbus]

alr then ill get the abs instead

ty

[obsidian wigeon]

@lethal steppe https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3kjZgt

[lethal steppe]

tyvm

is the 10100 fine if they dont mind spending extra?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the exact same thing as 10105

don't pay extra for that

[lethal steppe]

ok O_O tyvm

[potent portal]

If anything the next step up is the 10400

[obsidian wigeon]

10100's price is crazy

[lethal steppe]

😦 im gonna get nervous about applying thermal paste again that was so stressful

[obsidian wigeon]

at that point 10400 makes more sense

[potent portal]

A lot of coolers come with pre-applied paste

[obsidian wigeon]

the stock cooler with the i3 does come with paste

you just install it on the cpu and call it a day

[lethal steppe]

yea 😄

[frank stirrup]

Lemme make a few adjustments

1 sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVGLvf

Corsair CX is amazing value rn

550W

[potent portal]

$420

[frank stirrup]

Nooo I made it 400

:(

[obsidian wigeon]

mail in rebate tho

that's the painful part

cause rebates can run out

or take loooong time to get to you

[frank stirrup]

Without the rebate its just as expensive as ur list

[potent portal]

Fastest I ever got a rebate was 3 months, slowest was never arrived

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

if we ignore rebate it's the same thing

[lethal steppe]

hmm

yea i dont think ill bother with the 10400 doesnt seem worth

[obsidian wigeon]

unneeded for movie streaming

[lethal steppe]

they dont wanna spend much anyways even though they can

[obsidian wigeon]

if only it was 420.69

that'd be even better

[potent portal]

I know, just 23 cents less and it would have been

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[frank stirrup]

For 100$ more

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GH2ywz

Theres that

Lot more capable

[obsidian wigeon]

can game too i suppose

but since gaming is outta their mind, just 10105 is okie

[frank stirrup]

But Id do foxys list or the one i sent before this one for movies only

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frank stirrup]

Stop typing fast :(

Me slow boi

:(((

[obsidian wigeon]

oop

[potent portal]

Git gud

[obsidian wigeon]

im too fast

[frank stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/833086904424988683.png

[lethal steppe]

ya ty again for the help everyone i gotta run

[obsidian wigeon]

now we just need rdna2 igpus

by then we'll get even better value outta budget builds

and not worry about gpu

6600g or 7600g i guess?

man it's gonna sound too close like 6600xt in naming

[potent portal]

You mean like the 5600X exists at the same time as 5600XT?
Here's hoping the refresh doesn't follow the XT naming they did on 3000 chips.

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[frank stirrup]

How else will we know they are eXTreme instead of eXtreme thooo

[potent portal]

Imagine a PC with a 5600XT processor and 5600XT GPU

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

"what gpu and cpu do you have?"
"just 5600xt"

[frank stirrup]

I give up foxy is speed

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[desert gulch]

ballistix is like 3 dollars moreeeee

[frank stirrup]

[obsidian wigeon]

anyway

if earlier xt is to be followed

i sure can see 5600xt getting $50 price bump

[abstract ridge]

hi

[obsidian wigeon]

and it'll become uh

[abstract ridge]

i want a 4090 ti

[obsidian wigeon]

349 usd msrp?

big freaking yikes

[abstract ridge]

and a 5995wx

[obsidian wigeon]

who's gonna buy 6 core chip for 350?

when 5800x has more cores n better perf for around that price most of the times

or 12600k for less

[potent portal]

Well if leaks are to be believed the refresh with stacked cache will be a HUGE bump in performance

[obsidian wigeon]

i do hope so

they better make the price bump justifyable

[potent portal]

Like 15% or so, putting them back in spitting distance of Intel 12th gen

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah that'd make it worth the price

if it's true at all

if not well then rip

[abstract ridge]

yes

[kindred pawn]

Guys I need help, I have a 1050 and a ryzen 7 5700g, I feel like I have input delay or something in games, my mouse feels too smooth

[obsidian wigeon]

too smooth?

that doesn't sound like input lag

[kindred pawn]

Thats not what i mean, it like doesnt feel as smooth and snappy as usual

It feels like i have vsync on but i dont

[frank stirrup]

Some games have mouse smoothing as an option

That can make it feel like that

[celest moss]

Looking to do a insane jurrasic world liquid cooled build, anyone have any ideas ? Would love to take multiple people's ideas and build the most unique custom rig ever

[potent portal]

How's your metal working skills? Having the classic clawed through metal look would be awesome

Or you could do a decal if you're not so good at it

[tight sorrel]

get some fake plants, put them on/around/in your PC to give it that "jungle" look

add some toy dinosaurs

[surreal compass]

it's only appropriate to incorporate western digital's Velociraptor HDDs

[tight sorrel]

brilliant

oh, have an internal screen showing the animation of Ned waggin his finger saying "uh uh uh, you didnt say the magic word"

[surreal compass]

not related but slather your computer in maple syrup

[little osprey]

if I change the CPU cooler would it be good? https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali575/p/N82E16883360210

[frank stirrup]

Its out of stock

[potent portal]

Yes, a 240mm liquid cooler on the top would work

[frank stirrup]

Might never return

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali576/p/N82E16883360211?Item=N82E16883360211 ($2,199)
or this one
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali575/p/N82E16883360210 ($2,099)

[fossil cedar]

2nd one is out of stock, but if you don't mind open box there's a one with an aio, 10700kf, 3070, mesh case, rgb ram, 1tb ssd and a lot cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali454-gladiator/p/N82E16883360038R

[celest moss]

I can actually do metal work very well that is a great idea I might even be able to weld up a t-rex head and claws and have them coming through the side ...

[hexed stump]

Hi, i have an alieanware auora ryzen edition and was wondering if there is any upgrades I should make for example fans for less noise and cooling. Any suggestions?

[celest moss]

What are the specs braski but next time you get a pc stay away from Alienware they are absolutely junk and you are paying for literally the name

[hexed stump]

LOL, i realized that after about a year I got it. I had 0 knowledge and just wanted a pc. I will look into specs. I will DM you

AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800 (8-Core, 36MB Total Cache, Max Boost Clock of 4.6GHz)
Windows 11 Home, English.
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 12GB GDDR6.
16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz, XMP.
1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s.

I just looked them up.

@celest moss

[fossil cedar]

Not a whole lot you can do without a new case motherboard power supply and possibly cooler usually

[fossil cedar]

No ssd?

[hexed stump]

Can you link some of the parts I can upgrade with

[fossil cedar]

I mean it would be a pain and pricey btw

[hexed stump]

Well i would be open to buying a new case and fans

specifically fans

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[hexed stump]

the other stuff ill upgrade in the future most likely

[fossil cedar]

What country?

[hexed stump]

US

[fossil cedar]

Do you have an ssd? Because if not that's a major upgrade

Also do you know what kind of cooler you have?

[hexed stump]

I dont beleive I do. Could u link one just in case

No

[fossil cedar]

An ssd? Ye 1 sec

[hexed stump]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

@hexed stump https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qqn63Z you'd possibly need a new cooler too I'm not sure if you're current cooler can be reused without a pic of it

[hexed stump]

Alright well thanks for the help. Would it be ok if I dm u with any questions?

[celest moss]

Are more then welcome to dm me for any questions

[celest moss]

Very first thing to upgrade is ram if you don't want a whole new build

[celest moss]

And what board is it because your board depends if you can overlook ram/cpu upgrading your board to one that can will be a huge improvement!

[fossil cedar]

Nah the ram is fine, ofc 3600cl16 would be ideal but if they already have 3200cl16 it's not worth like 85$ to get 3600cl16

[fossil cedar]

Nope, you can overclock on every amd motherboard except like a320's

[celest moss]

B450s do not allow overclock what are you smoking. And 16 gigs of ram games now are calling for 32 lol

[fossil cedar]

Yes they do lol, you're thinking of intel

[obsidian wigeon]

^

B460 is Intel chipset, B450 is AMD

[fossil cedar]

Also only flight sym 2020 and a small amount of other games can use over 16gb ram

[obsidian wigeon]

Also 16 is fine for vast majority of games still

[mossy venture]

Any recent amd cpu oc on nearly any motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

32 is nice to have but not an absolute need

it's not like 8

where that's simply not enough

[mossy venture]

I didn't even hit 16gb streaming warzone with at max settings with discord and Chrome open as well

[celest moss]

With his specs I would definitely be putting in 32 his ram is his biggest bottleneck tbh

[mossy venture]

Was like 95%, but still not out of ram

[obsidian wigeon]

eh nope

not really

it's nice to have

[mossy venture]

What's the system

[obsidian wigeon]

but not a problem per say

it's got 5800 and 3060

[mossy venture]

16 is fine

Anything over a 3070 I'd say yeah sure throw 32 in

Just bc if you're spending that much why not

[fossil cedar]

No, no it's not, the 3060 is his biggest bottleneck

[mossy venture]

5800x will run a 3090

[celest moss]

I would go ram then gpu upgrade 100%

[obsidian wigeon]

I mean 3600 will run 3090 at 1440P+ even lel

[mossy venture]

Gpu is a bigger bottleneck than cpu

[mossy venture]

Not ideal but yeah

[fossil cedar]

Nah ram is perfectly fine, upgrade the gpu first

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt put it with a 3080 ti, 3090, or 6900xt personally

[celest moss]

Well yes his cpu is Definitely over powered for his gpu but his ram is still low for his set up 100%

[frank stirrup]

I have 16 gb and its completely fine

[mossy venture]

It literally isnt

[fossil cedar]

No it's not

[celest moss]

Yes it is

[mossy venture]

Four people are telling you it's not

[worn wave]

32GB is for sure overkill for most gaming currently

[frank stirrup]

B450 allows u to OC ram and cpu

[mossy venture]

But go ahead, your linus tech tips is much better than years of experience

[frank stirrup]

[obsidian wigeon]

5800X is not that unbalanced with 3060

It's a fine combo

[celest moss]

And this is why I have a 40 thousand dollar set up and yall don't and why I guarantee you I get higher fps and faster numbers then you

[worn wave]

With 32GB being so cheap you might as well buy it since good kits are nearing $100 currently

[frank stirrup]

Flight sim runs fine on 16gb

[mossy venture]

LMAO

"Faster numbers"

[obsidian wigeon]

40 grand, yeah we're jealous about it for sure

[mossy venture]

Thanks for the laugh

[frank stirrup]

It can just use more if the pc has it

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frank stirrup]

I too have a spare kidney

[fossil cedar]

It's 5800 non x btw

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[mossy venture]

Ah yes

[obsidian wigeon]

nearly the same perf tho

anyway

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but it can use over 16gb

[obsidian wigeon]

16 is basically min for gaming, 32 nice to have but not needed yet

[mossy venture]

The elusive non existent 5800

[frank stirrup]

Im upgrading to 32 gigs soon btw pato

Like in few monfs

[fossil cedar]

Its actually hard to spend 5k on a gaming pc ffs lol

Let alone 40k

[frank stirrup]

Not at all

[fossil cedar]

How come

[mossy venture]

My friend spent 1400$ on a gpuless pc...

Bought overpriced fans, 240$ asus case

[obsidian wigeon]

the what

damn

[frank stirrup]

Ebay for scalped gpus

[mossy venture]

AND a 5800x

He bought an overpriced aio too

[frank stirrup]

Im running out these days

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-water-water-shocked-the-incredibles-violet-gif-12114173

[mossy venture]

And its a 240mm, with a 5800x, in a 1400$ build

[frank stirrup]

I have tons of things open these days

[mossy venture]

Hes throwing his 2070s in it from his current pc

[fossil cedar]

It kinda is tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

btw having "overkill" cpu for a midrange gpu is better than having weak cpu but same gpu

cpu bottleneck is painful

[mossy venture]

True

[obsidian wigeon]

stutters and such

gpu bottleneck is just fps

[frank stirrup]

Windows subsystem for android eats up between 2-4gb ram and its always open

[frank stirrup]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[fossil cedar]

Ohh okay that's different than paying 1400$ for a gpuless pc

[mossy venture]

No it doesn't have a gpu

Not in the 1400$

[fossil cedar]

Even then

[mossy venture]

He bought 6 20$ fans

[fossil cedar]

That's fine tho

[mossy venture]

Overpriced case

[frank stirrup]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234294004327?epid=11047364407&hash=item368d02ca67:g:uVgAAOSwnDdhlw0y

[mossy venture]

Personally I'd rather have better performance than know my pc cost more

[frank stirrup]

3650 USD

[celest moss]

Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC - Ryzen 7 3700X - GeForce RTX 3080 - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB DDR4 3200MHz - 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD - 240MM RGB AIO https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala236-gladiator/p/N82E16883360100R?Item=N82E16883360100R&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-100R-_-11222021

[mossy venture]

Very affordable

[mossy venture]

"Faster numbers"

[celest moss]

Would u like me to specify for you figured I would keep it simple since you think q good build is 16 gigs of ram

[frank stirrup]

Only 16 gb ram

[fossil cedar]

Lol there's cheaper ones on pcpp

[frank stirrup]

Ewwwww

[obsidian wigeon]

it's 2.1k

[mossy venture]

16 is fine :)

[obsidian wigeon]

so the problem is kinda there

[mossy venture]

-someone with 16gb

[celest moss]

The point was you can get the whole build for the price of the gpu

[mossy venture]

And a 3060 ti

[obsidian wigeon]

but idm much

[mossy venture]

My cpu bottlenecks my system more than my ram

[frank stirrup]

The point was I sorted my price high to low to find that gpu

Lol

[mossy venture]

Hell, my ssd bottlenecks my system more than my ram

[frank stirrup]

My gpu bottlenecks my system

So im buying ram to upgrade it

[celest moss]

I have absolutely zero bottlenecks thankfully

[frank stirrup]

The pc not the gpu

[mossy venture]

Literally impossible

[frank stirrup]

Not a thing

[mossy venture]

There is always bottlenecks

[frank stirrup]

Literally never possible

[celest moss]

I9 12th gen with a 3090 128 gigs of ram 5tb of ssd don't see a bottleneck anywhere

[obsidian wigeon]

the word bottleneck is well quite misused

[mossy venture]

Gpu bottlenecks the cpu lmfao

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9tprxr/gainward-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-3gb-video-card-426018336-3798 KEK

[mossy venture]

128 GB OF RAM LMFAO

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[frank stirrup]

Ouch this hurts

[mossy venture]

And that cost 40k?

[obsidian wigeon]

5510 bucks

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[frank stirrup]

My soul

Is in pain

Thatnks pato

[mossy venture]

Your stupidity is showing

[obsidian wigeon]

also 40k for that stuff is.. sus

[frank stirrup]

Dudley looking freak

[celest moss]

That is one of my computers lmao I have many more hahaha

[mossy venture]

sus impossible

[frank stirrup]

Isnt worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

those specs doesn't reach 40k

[celest moss]

Does when I have 5 other pcs

[mossy venture]

Definitely 12yo

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[mossy venture]

We aren't stupid, and you're not slick

[celest moss]

I'm 26 and a computer engineer lmao try again

[obsidian wigeon]

you said your one pc costed 40k

suddenly a twist huh

[mossy venture]

Yeah but it's funny

[obsidian wigeon]

imma just drop off this conversation

[celest moss]

No I said my set up cost me 40k one pc is not a set up

[frank stirrup]

I have dual socket epyc 7763 processors and over a terabyte of ram and 4 3090s in sli

[frank stirrup]

Beat that

[mossy venture]

Faster numbers

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup i struggled to hit 10k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YjTYy4

[celest moss]

Well I simplified for it since your 16 gigs of ram is insane op

[frank stirrup]

Amateur lemme show u something

[mossy venture]

Faster numbers

[fossil cedar]

Only 1 ssd and 1 gpu allowed

[obsidian wigeon]

No one said 16 gigs of ram is op

[mossy venture]

Guys his pc has faster numbers

[fossil cedar]

And not allowed use 5k 1060 cuz that's clearly dumb

[mossy venture]

We're all wrong

[still roost]

Danknation95#2494 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mossy venture]

Hehe

[obsidian wigeon]

Also ofc you would say 32 gigs is minimum for games cause you got 128 gigs of em

[worn wave]

faster numbers = better PC duh

[obsidian wigeon]

So nothing doesn't need to worry about using too much

[mossy venture]

Fairly sure he's just lying about it

[mossy venture]

Clearly

[little osprey]

I just wonder why most fans have aura sync support but no others 🤔

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s7ZMQD
@fossil cedar

[celest moss]

I mean dm me I'll show u some pcs I got

[obsidian wigeon]

they should work with other rgb programs too

it's just marketing

[little osprey]

Can't you control argb fans with any program ?

[obsidian wigeon]

you can

[little osprey]

I mean yeah its argb so lol

[obsidian wigeon]

like i mentioned, it's marketing

argb should work on anything that supports it

[mossy venture]

GUYS

READ HIS ABOUT ME

[fossil cedar]

Cheater i said gaming, and only 1 storage

[mossy venture]

"I try to stay positive to everyone i meet"

LMAO

[obsidian wigeon]

bacca

[mossy venture]

Sorry it's just hilarious

[frank stirrup]

Well it has 2 6lbs field cannons in the list

[mossy venture]

I'll stop now

[obsidian wigeon]

let's be civilized

and use facts

[fossil cedar]

Dammit

[little osprey]

Got msi spatium from newegg for great price today . Thanks

[worn wave]

The best PC parts

[celest moss]

Check out colorful 3090 Kudan most beautiful card on the planet

[obsidian wigeon]

kudan series is also rarest

they're made in limited quantity

[little osprey]

White strix 3090 is most beautiful card

[mossy venture]

Most beautiful card is the gefore 256

Also best

Can run any game at 600fps 8k with rtx on

[obsidian wigeon]

what about geforce 1

[worn wave]

TNT2 #1

[little osprey]

I love my beautiful white strix 3090

[mossy venture]

Wasn't the 256 the first ever gpu by nvidia?

[obsidian wigeon]

idk

[mossy venture]

Fairly sure it was

[worn wave]

I have Nvidia's 5th GPU model made

The Riva TNT2

[mossy venture]

Do old gpus like that hold collectors value?

[worn wave]

no

kinda

its about $100 on ebay I think

[obsidian wigeon]

they actually got pre geforce

[frank stirrup]

@celest moss btw whats ur main source of income that you can afford 50k worth of pcs

[worn wave]

Voodoo GPUs are worth a crap ton

[obsidian wigeon]

stg-2000 was nvidia's first ever gpu

then riva

[worn wave]

I really want to collect 3Dfx GPUs

[frank stirrup]

All pcs need that

Smh

[mossy venture]

Hes a "computer engineer" apparently

[obsidian wigeon]

1 mb of vram

nice

1 pixel shader

1 tmu and rop

[little osprey]

Upgrade from 4800mhz to 5200mhz ram probably not worth right now right ? 🤔

I wonder when high speed rams gonna come out

[obsidian wigeon]

249 usd in 1995 equates to 451.91 today

[little osprey]

Damnn

[obsidian wigeon]

that's what nvidia's first gpu costed at launch

[mossy venture]

Not really

[obsidian wigeon]

inflation do be like that

[mossy venture]

Not unless you haven't bought any yet

[frank stirrup]

Timings and cpu matter as well btw

[little osprey]

12900k with cheap crucial ddr5 rams for now lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ew no

just get ddr4

[mossy venture]

They alr have ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

i forgot

yeah stay with it

no need to upgrade

until like better sticks with better timings comes

[little osprey]

Lol got cheap 32gb ddr5 for now and waiting for better rams lol

I know its first gen of ddr5 but its still performing well

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine

just not worth compared to ddr4

but you already got ddr5, best to stick with it

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QwL9ht i have made the 43k gaming pc nods

[little osprey]

Yeah got 32gb ddr5 for 215bucks

[mossy venture]

15tb ssd

[little osprey]

Good ddr4 rams are also around same price

[mossy venture]

Didn't even know that was a thing

[fossil cedar]

15.3

93.2tb pc

[frank stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821056072310718494.png?size=48

[earnest olive]

inb4 he runs 3200c16 xmp

[fossil cedar]

93.2tb

[earnest olive]

16gb of 4000 14-14-14 tuned b-die would take a dump on his 128gb in almost every game

regardless of if it's ddr4 or ddr5

alder lake in gear 1 baby

[mossy venture]

He still hasn't shown me those 5 pcs of his

Told me to dm him lmao

[earnest olive]

imagine flexing that you only have 5 pcs

i have 7

[mossy venture]

I have 3

[earnest olive]

and there are people here with more

[mossy venture]

My phone, desktop, and laptop

[earnest olive]

lol i don't think a phone counts

[mossy venture]

Shhh

Semantics

[earnest olive]

inb4 he has ddr5 running at 4800c40 jedec

[fossil cedar]

@earnest olive @frank stirrup https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NT89ht 582.8tb ssd gaming pc

[celest moss]

Weird haven't received a single dm lmao

[odd crypt]

How in the raw sushi down bad is that possible?

[fossil cedar]

Pcie to 16 sata ports

[odd crypt]

Oh lmao

Who needs 580 tb tho

[fossil cedar]

For the memes

[odd crypt]

Oh🤣

Hopefully this friday i can actually get a graphics card😔

[little osprey]

@fast dust how’dd you get all the components bro? 😮

[fast dust]

Bought them used

[little osprey]

Damn I gotta keep an eye out then!

[mossy venture]

Apparently he counts his girlfriends pc and other pcs he's building as his setup

[fossil cedar]

That makes no sense lol

[mossy venture]

Can go to his stream and ask him

It's linked to his discord

[fossil cedar]

I cba lol

[celest moss]

Uhh I didn't say my gfs pc was apart of my set up lmao you are unintelligent lmao I just finished the build for her and am testing it u said to show you the pc I am on which is here do to testing lmao your just upset my gfs pc that yes I built out performs yours

[mossy venture]

I literally don't even use my pc to half it's extent. I could not care less if yours is better as mine is already overkill

[celest moss]

And i said my other pcs are simply sitting on my build table lol and I have 2 more no I did not count when i said 5 being built as of now

[mossy venture]

:)

[worn wave]

Yes, we get it, your better than all of us

[little osprey]

For non-gaming, is building worth it or should my sister stick to prebuilt?

I was thinking for her an i5, 8gigs and a 500 gigs SSD would be enough

No GPU

Mainly because I wanted to build

😂

I wanna do another build but I don't have anything to build

[earnest olive]

8gb ram in 2021, almost 2022?

do you hate your sister?

what did she do to you?

stabbed you in your sleep?

16gb 3200c16 is like $50 now just go 16gb ok?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QV1V17R

be a good sibling 👍

[mossy venture]

Lowkey want to buy this to send to my SO

[earnest olive]

i got my gf rev. e

need to oc it while she's sleeping sometime

[mossy venture]

They have a 3400g with an ssd now, a310 or whatever the amd version of h310 is

Can't remember the name

And 8gb ram

No clue what speed

Before it had a dying hdd

[earnest olive]

lol, my sister's laptop had an hdd

16 minute boot time

i put an ssd in and now it boots in 9 seconds

[mossy venture]

Theirs didn't take too too long to boot, but minecraft took like 10min

And mc would randomly crash and such

I ran multiple chkdsks

[earnest olive]

even managed to save the hdd from ewaste with a $8 usb hdd enclosure

[mossy venture]

The first one helped for a while

The second helped for a few days

[desert gulch]

When's danknation gonna show us his 40k PC and 4 other PCs?

[mossy venture]

Third did nothing

Very bad hdd

I bought them a sk hynix whatever 31 gold sata version

[earnest olive]

he showed it to me, one sec lemme get it

[desert gulch]

S31

Sata 31

[mossy venture]

That

[desert gulch]

Ye

[mossy venture]

LMAO

[desert gulch]

Lmao

That's actually prolly 40k

Collectors item

[jagged ember]

now that's the best pc i've ever seen

[mossy venture]

Nah he actually showed me his setup, it's clean but it ain't worth 40k

[jagged ember]

flames make it really fast

[mossy venture]

128gb headass

[desert gulch]

Got a pic?

[jagged ember]

lmao WHAT

[mossy venture]

Nah

[jagged ember]

128gb??

[desert gulch]

Dang

[mossy venture]

I joined his discord and then his stream because he "didn't want to buy something" to send me pictures

Because he doesn't know you don't need nitro to send pictures

[earnest olive]

i bet 38k of it is the corsair fans

[desert gulch]

I technically have 7 PCs if we are counting PCs built for customers

[jagged ember]

what?

what does that mean lmao

you can send pictures through discord?

[desert gulch]

Nah his 40k PC isn't capable of doing thar