building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

I left a comment to warn him

it's 4.3 slots

[jagged ember]

jeez

[earnest olive]

at that point I'd just keep the EVGA 3070 lol

[cursive wharf]

Yeah I'd just tell him to replace the EVGA fans with the noctua fans right there

[earnest olive]

he wants to straight trade his non-LHR 3070 for a noctua 3070 that's going to be LHR

[jagged ember]

does he just want it because he wants noctua fan

[earnest olive]

it's not worth paying effectively $250 for a fatter heatsink that you'll have to deshroud

[jagged ember]

cause he could just duct tape the fans into it

[earnest olive]

he said he wants it for the theme lol

[jagged ember]

dude just hydro dip the damn thing

[cursive wharf]

I mean, who doesnt want to support an overrated company that doesnt really even have the best fans

[autumn wolf]

for noctua theme build since he has a noctua cooler, theme cables and fans below the gpu so why not noctua theme gpu. problem is it wont fit unless he gets a new case

[jagged ember]

that would theme it up a lot

[earnest olive]

and he's effectively paying $250 for it

[cursive wharf]

Except GPU shroud is black isnt it?

[earnest olive]

non-LHR 3070 to LHR 3070

[jagged ember]

also

[autumn wolf]

gpu shroud on the noctua is slighly brown ish

[jagged ember]

wait what is his cpu fan configuration

[autumn wolf]

its pulling air from the back

[jagged ember]

ohh

so the heat just

[cursive wharf]

Literally tiny bit of brown lol. Just do some painting on the EVGA GPU

[jagged ember]

rises to the top?

oh yeah it is black!

just literally custom print the Asus x noctua lmao

on a sticker

boom, done

[earnest olive]

imagine noctua 3090 that has that 4.3 slot cooler below and then an extra layer of small heatsink and 15mm fans over the backplate

to fill the slot above it lol

gotta get some active vram cooling

gonna break compatibility with a lot of mobos though

[cursive wharf]

Just put a D15 on both sides

[jagged ember]

put 4

2 top 2 bottom

[cursive wharf]

Dont forget the two on the side, and one on back/front

[jagged ember]

oh right true

3090 hot

need more d15

[earnest olive]

giving my 3080 active vram cooling did almost nothing :(

[cursive wharf]

Best case for 3080 I heard was 5c less or smth

[earnest olive]

I put intel heatsink on top of vram area on pad modded backplate

with thermal paste

and put a case fan on top of the intel heatsink

[jagged ember]

did nothing

?

[earnest olive]

yup

[jagged ember]

sad

[earnest olive]

still 82c

[cursive wharf]

I mean that do be lotta inefficiencies. Kinda gotta do direct heatsink

[jagged ember]

lmao I just remembered I just held amd heatsink to the back of my laptop

when it was running really hot

[earnest olive]

I thought it would do something cause the backplate gets hot enough to burn skin

[jagged ember]

the heatsink actually got hot

and I think it helped my lappy

[earnest olive]

I wanted to remove heat from the backplate so it could absorb more from the vram

[cursive wharf]

I was lazy with my RAM cooling. Literally just AMD heatsink+fan sitting on RAM. Thinking about removing heatsink for better airflow soon tho

[earnest olive]

since it's metal and has direct pad contact

[jagged ember]

my ram cooling is just 2 p12s

[earnest olive]

I have no ram cooling and daily 1.53v

rev. e moment

[jagged ember]

actually maybe do that

[earnest olive]

that's what I was doing tho

[cursive wharf]

My bdie normally gets to like 40c just gaming. Stress tests be like 43c. I get errors on anta at like 45c

[jagged ember]

ohh

[earnest olive]

it just didn't actually help the vram temps

[jagged ember]

ripp

guess the small amount of thermal mass on the cooler isn't enough

[earnest olive]

my rev. e chills at like 47c during normal use/gaming

55c during stress test with a 3080 blowing heat over it

[fossil cedar]

Lmao that's a 4 slot card why would you put in an itx

[jagged ember]

for the aesthetic bro

[earnest olive]

tRFC starts having problems at 63c

[jagged ember]

he needs everything to be noctua

[earnest olive]

I included ram temp as a sensor for my case fan curves

so it went down from 63c to 55c

[cursive wharf]

Gotta get that brown plate
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/906920153147666432/w800203_678x452.png

[earnest olive]

and no problems at 55c

[jagged ember]

aw yeah

[earnest olive]

maybe b-die is a bad idea in california lmao

[fossil cedar]

Heard of idk paint?

[earnest olive]

I've had 42c ambient in my room before

errors at 3c above ambient pog

[cursive wharf]

Paint?? TF is that????

[fossil cedar]

How where you alive

[jagged ember]

totally couldn't 3dprint a heatsink for the 3070 and attach noctua fans to it

[earnest olive]

I abandoned PC to hide downstairs

[jagged ember]

what even is 3d printing

[obsidian wigeon]

just don't print one

[earnest olive]

AC broke in the middle of a heat wave

gg

[obsidian wigeon]

slap noctuas on bare heatsink

[jagged ember]

duct tape em

ez

[fossil cedar]

Idk some sort of liquid people slap on their walls cars, among other things

[jagged ember]

linus level engineering

[earnest olive]

linus:

[obsidian wigeon]

linus engineering actually works

[earnest olive]

we water cooled paint!

[cursive wharf]

Witchcraft

[jagged ember]

actually yeah it kinda did lol

[fossil cedar]

Well it kinda works, noctua asus gpu still cooler

[fossil cedar]

Well i mean if linus can do it with cement x)

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[earnest olive]

waiting for the linus video where he water cools linus

[cursive wharf]

linus cools linus

heck water cooling

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/palmsprings-palmspringsmovie-timeloop-quarantine-life-gif-18086925

[thick jungle]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/73Vkht

need help or opinions on this build

it's a build for gaming, streaming, school, and accounting

changes on motherboard, cpu, and gpu would be apprectiated

:)

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget?

[stoic island]

The peripherals there aren't great but to start off, what's with the extra fans?

[thick jungle]

currently 2.7 cad

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[thick jungle]

case doesn't have fans

[stoic island]

4000d airflow comes with 2

[fossil cedar]

Do you need wifi?

[thick jungle]

yeah

[stoic island]

Anyways, do you already have the 3080?

[thick jungle]

not atm but i'm waiting

[stoic island]

Do you have it pre-ordered...?

[thick jungle]

i have plans

[earnest olive]

damn, 2.7 cad?

might buy you an orange juice

[thick jungle]

2.7k

lmao

[fossil cedar]

I'd recommend getting a cpu with integrated graphics so you can build now instead of waiting months

[earnest olive]

[earnest olive]

starts with R and ends in GB

[thick jungle]

that too lol

[stoic island]

2.7k cad including or excluding expenses for peripherals?

[thick jungle]

alright

[stoic island]

My second worst enemy

[thick jungle]

i already have my mouse keyboard headset

[earnest olive]

are you only allowed the R

[stoic island]

Rip

[thick jungle]

i'm teetering on the 5600x and the 5800x

[earnest olive]

get the 3080 first then decide with the rest of your budget

[stoic island]

Or go 10400/11400/11500

[thick jungle]

i'm pretty sure i'm going for a ryzen build but thanks

[thick jungle]

alright

[stoic island]

It's just 11400/11500 has a decent iGPU and a better CPU than 5600g

[fossil cedar]

Is budget including peripherals btw?

[stoic island]

It wasn't

[thick jungle]

no i already have my mouse key headset

[fossil cedar]

Ahh good

[thick jungle]

ahhhh i see

[fossil cedar]

Including monitor or no?

[thick jungle]

no

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[thick jungle]

i don't have monitor

[stoic island]

Only if 5600g didn't skimp on the l3 cache :p

[thick jungle]

oh yeah btw

i already have ram psu fans

[fossil cedar]

Wait so budget is including or excluding monitor?

Ohh

[thick jungle]

including

[fossil cedar]

Can you return

[thick jungle]

i can try

but idk

[fossil cedar]

I would heavily advice returning

[thick jungle]

for what reason

[fossil cedar]

Psu is fine but better for cheaper

Fans are bleh

Ram is bleh and overpriced

3600cl18 is fine but 3600cl16 is what you should be getting for that price

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QZfywz this is what I'd do

[thick jungle]

oh i got them on sale

lmao

[fossil cedar]

How much did you pay for them?

Also the fans are just meh

No need for that many and overpriced

[earnest olive]

okay so

if you have already purchased items

[thick jungle]

well i'm pretty sure psu was 149.99
fans were 154
ram was 107

[earnest olive]

please mark them as purchased and put the price you paid

[sand falcon]

oof

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[earnest olive]

alternatively, ask before buying

[fossil cedar]

Then you heavily overpayed for the psu

[stoic island]

Btw 256mb wd blue is also smr so basically same thing as barracuda

[earnest olive]

lol i got that backwards

[fossil cedar]

But cheaper

[sand falcon]

keep in mind it is CAD, but still a bit pricey

[earnest olive]

5600g 🤢

[stoic island]

Yeye still saying

5600g is okay if they really want Ryzen and need iGP

[fossil cedar]

Well yeah but the rm is 139 on pcpp

[earnest olive]

5600g + 3080ti 🤢

[sand falcon]

yee

[little osprey]

I surprised my ryujin aio already had bracket for lga1700

[sand falcon]

Nothing wrong with the 5600g

[thick jungle]

that price is incorrect actually

[fossil cedar]

Well that or wait months with no pc

[thick jungle]

on the actual site

it's 150

[fossil cedar]

Well definitely return if you can

[stoic island]

a-gf 850w 140$ after shipping on Amazon.ca

[fossil cedar]

Still tho, better psu

[earnest olive]

12600k 😳

[stoic island]

Ddr5 annoying to get

[earnest olive]

could use it with ddr4

[sand falcon]

It's $129 with $10 shipping

[little osprey]

I got 12900k on hand already

[thick jungle]

on newegg?

[fossil cedar]

If you can I'd return everything you got @thick jungle

[sand falcon]

No, on amazon

[stoic island]

We don't have enough reviews on the lower end boards tbh

[little osprey]

Only missing thing is ram and its coming monday

[thick jungle]

alright

[stoic island]

Don't really want to see something like ASRock z490 again

[sand falcon]

We could use more reviews on all boards tbh

[fossil cedar]

The lowest end 12th gen boards I've seen are like 200$ anyway lol

[stoic island]

True

[earnest olive]

are there UHD 770 reviews yet 😳

[stoic island]

I still need to watch gn testing on win10 vs win11 on 12th gen

[sand falcon]

12th gen is undercutting amd on a per cpu price, but with the mobo and ram...

[sand falcon]

tldr, big

[stoic island]

Fun

[earnest olive]

ive seen good ddr4 beating average ddr5 in gaming on alder lake

[stoic island]

I need to spend some time to find reviews though

[sand falcon]

Drop em in techie if you find some good ones

[earnest olive]

first gen ddr5 latency too high

[fossil cedar]

Tldr not very much, 1% less in most apps, 6% in csgo

[little osprey]

Im glad i got 1000w psu instead 850w back then

12900k looks power hungry

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[earnest olive]

not really

[stoic island]

Oh fun

[earnest olive]

it uses less power than previous gens

[cursive wharf]

Feel like Zhrooms might do an okay DDR4 test

[stoic island]

Anandtech always good to look at

[earnest olive]

241w pl2 when 10900k can easily be pushed past 400w

[stoic island]

But yea

[earnest olive]

and 11900k as well

[little osprey]

Gotta pair 12900k with white strix 3090

[earnest olive]

12900k also looks to be more efficient than ryzen in gaming

[stoic island]

12900k up to like 350w oc compared to 11900k up to 400w adaptive boost iirc

[cursive wharf]

Never really understood why peeps complained that 12th gen was super high power. All other stuff has been as well

[earnest olive]

people will complain about anything intel makes

[sand falcon]

Intel is actually listing boost power now so they see that and think big

[little osprey]

I saw someone overclocked 12900k to 8ghz

[earnest olive]

it was fake

[sand falcon]

5950x unlocked and oc'd draws almost as much as the 12900k

[earnest olive]

exploiting a cpu-z bug

[fossil cedar]

Can leave a good bit of perf on table

[earnest olive]

highest real oc was around 7.4-7.5

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar that's read/write

[earnest olive]

in a literal synthetic bandwidth benchmark sure

not in gaming

[sand falcon]

This is not okay lol

[earnest olive]

you can see they're basically equal in that pubg lol

[little osprey]

I got cheap crucial ddr5 ram for now and gonna upgrade when high speed rams comes out

[fossil cedar]

The 2nd one is pubg?

[stoic island]

Like anandtech testing here with sticks at jedec

Not far off

[earnest olive]

yeah and they're basically equal?

[cursive wharf]

tbf XMP stuff is meh, I want fully tuned benchmarks of each

[earnest olive]

whats your point

[stoic island]

It gets further in some tests but they're close enough in general it seems

[sand falcon]

As of right now, no major advantage to ddr5 for gaming

[earnest olive]

the best ddr5 tested beats mediocre ddr4 3600c16 by a whopping 1.2%

big deal

and yeah, most timings not listed

this could be xmp

[sand falcon]

When ddr5 gets better and we start to get some good tuning going that should change

[little osprey]

Ddr5 rams not making huge difference now but soon it will

[fossil cedar]

3600cl16 is but look at 3800 for some reason

[stoic island]

Anandtech tests at jedec, so yea

[sand falcon]

The question is is it worth getting a ddr5 board

[little osprey]

Yes

[earnest olive]

because it's in gear 2

3600c16 gear 1 > 3800c16 gear 2

no surprises there

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

Didn't see that

[cursive wharf]

Wait 12900k should be able to do 3800 G1 no?

[earnest olive]

i'd like to see 3733c12 or c13 gear 1 smoke all of the ddr5 lol

[sand falcon]

Personally I'd say ddr5 board is worth even if there isn't any significant performance difference right now

[sand falcon]

Theoretically yeah

[little osprey]

Hopefully I'll build 12900k next week

[fossil cedar]

Look at the 3600cl16 diff in far cry tho wtf

[little osprey]

Im so excited

[sand falcon]

Maybe they couldn't get it stable without tweaking?

[earnest olive]

it's lottery

[cursive wharf]

That also looks like bdie too. Which, idk who buys bdie and runs at not that great timings

[earnest olive]

alder lake's ddr4 imc got basically no optimization over RKL

and 3733 tends to be the common limit on RKL

[sand falcon]

There's a lot of info that we still need to get lol

[earnest olive]

so yeah

[little osprey]

Does trident z royal already have ddr5 ram ? 🤔

[earnest olive]

3733 13-14-14 b-die with tight subtimings and gear 1 im sure would smack all the results on this chart

[sand falcon]

Think it might even be the same basic controller for ddr4

[earnest olive]

wouldn't be surprised

[sand falcon]

I'd have to find a die analysis though, that might be a bit

[earnest olive]

ddr4 is a compatibility feature not a main feature

[fossil cedar]

Don't think so

[earnest olive]

ddr4 is still very viable for the time being and in gaming can be better than ddr5

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey how much ram you looking for 32gb?

[earnest olive]

only downside is if you want to get ddr5 you need new mobo

but that's only a downside if you were planning to upgrade again in less than 2 gens

[little osprey]

Yeah 32gb at least lol

[frank stirrup]

Rawr need help

[earnest olive]

so it's not a major downside cause most people don't upgrade every single gen

[fossil cedar]

Okay I'll see

[fossil cedar]

Who rawr daIIas?

[frank stirrup]

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/pci-adapter/archer-t4e/
What chipset is used in this adapter?

[little osprey]

Ordered 215$ crucial one and rgb heatsing for it lol

[sand falcon]

https://en.wikichip.org/w/images/1/18/alder_lake_die_2.png

Why no embed

[earnest olive]

pretty colors

lol jesus

i tried copy pasting the image into chat

[frank stirrup]

73mb file

[earnest olive]

67.74 MB

[little osprey]

Im so happy that my aio which bought 2 months ago already had bracket for lga1700 lol

[sand falcon]

It's high res lol

[earnest olive]

reminds me of one of those gen 1 glitch pokemon sprites

lmao

[sand falcon]

Can see the P and E cores nicely though

[little osprey]

Lol

[frank stirrup]

A fren

[little osprey]

I just wonder can you assign apps to cores separately lol

[sand falcon]

Yup

[frank stirrup]

But fr I really need to know what chipset is used in that adapter

[earnest olive]

time for nintendo to copyright strike intel

[fossil cedar]

Wow ddr5 stock sucks

[sand falcon]

Look up core affinity

[fossil cedar]

Hmmm

[little osprey]

Yeah we all expected ddr5 shortage lol but im happy i had pre-ordered one at least lol

[cursive wharf]

I assume more fun stuff will come where you can just tell it to goto e cores

[little osprey]

Thats pretty impressive

[sand falcon]

I fully expect a program to come out soon that lets you set what you want to run on the P cores and E cores

If it isn't out already

[cursive wharf]

Should be pretty easy. Just setting affinity to correct core IDs

[fossil cedar]

I'll have a look but their site says nothing grr

[sand falcon]

Yeah, just needs some nice gamer friendly interface

[frank stirrup]

I looked on many of the interwebs before asking

[sand falcon]

Anyone see any alderlake benchmarks with SMT off yet?

[cursive wharf]

"Affinity Gaming"... "Choose your P and E cores"

Need that gamer ad stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[little osprey]

In gaming , it automatically moving light tasks to e cores

[sand falcon]

Sets affinity for every program except your game to E cores

[little osprey]

I think you can play light games on E cores too lol

[sand falcon]

Disables thread scheduler on your game so you never have any context switch latency

[fossil cedar]

Realtek RTL8812AE

[frank stirrup]

How in the...

Where

[fossil cedar]

http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/TP-LINK_Archer_T4E

[frank stirrup]

This why u tekkie

[fossil cedar]

tp-link archer t4e wifi chipset i googled this

Took a few tries lol

[frank stirrup]

Another hackintosh done

Thanks pato

[fossil cedar]

Welc

[weary cliff]

i cant send media but im getting the same "hardware error" with the exact parameters and code every time. multiple times a day

[worn wave]

LiveKernelEvent 141 has something to do with the GPU or RAM possibly

Is your GPU overclocked or anything?

Updated drivers and such?

[weary cliff]

ive swapped those already. essentially everything but my motherboard is brand new

no oc, drivers all up to date

[frank stirrup]

Brand new does not mean no errors

It could very well be your brand new gpu or ram

[weary cliff]

ive tried the new ram and then just the old ram and then both at the same time so i know its not ram. could be gpu, but i have no way to swap that as i dont have another gpu

[worn wave]

That error code is most of the time ia a GPU issue

[weary cliff]

i can send a ss of the error

[worn wave]

If you want

Do you know anyone that you could quickly borrow a GPU from to test?

Just to test before you would be spending money on a new motherboard.

[weary cliff]

possibly an rx580 yes

[worn wave]

I highly suggest trying that first because the error you are getting is GPU related

[weary cliff]

im replacing the mobo either way cause this board and its software has been terrible

but if the gpu is causing the errors then thats a whole new battle to fight lol

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMrvHz

Opinions on this for a nas?

[fossil cedar]

do you already own anything in here?

[uncut pelican]

only the ssd

[fossil cedar]

because id definitely change cpu mobo

[uncut pelican]

to what

[fossil cedar]

10100

[uncut pelican]

im open to all suggestions

[fossil cedar]

b560

[uncut pelican]

is it cheaper?

[fossil cedar]

a lot

[uncut pelican]

oh swag

[fossil cedar]

idk if you need 16gb of ram either

[uncut pelican]

i will do that rq

[fossil cedar]

not too familiar with nas's tho

[uncut pelican]

is that psu ok?

me either

[sand falcon]

What sort of load will you have on the nas?

[uncut pelican]

I have no idea but I need lots of storage and to be able for multiple people in my home to have access to it

so mainly my own cloud storage

but idk which mobo to put in it as a lot of these b560s are expensive

[sand falcon]

Just file backups etc, no movie streaming or such?

[uncut pelican]

nope

[sand falcon]

Cool

All looks good except that you have no graphics capability at all

[uncut pelican]

And I'd prefer for the case to look half decent because it will be in my living area

[uncut pelican]

I switched it to the i3 10300

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtbL68 id do this

[uncut pelican]

ok let me see

The problem with that is the case

[fossil cedar]

if you dont mind doing 15$ rebate

[uncut pelican]

I need atleast 2 3.5s to be able to fit

[sand falcon]

Ooh that's a nice deal on the psu

[uncut pelican]

it is wow

[fossil cedar]

3.5s? why

also internal or external

[uncut pelican]

internal

Because of the 5 people that need to store media and other stuff on it

[fossil cedar]

wait nvm ik why i had smooth brain moment

[uncut pelican]

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yMgBNP maybe something like this

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FDFsy4
Mebbe

[uncut pelican]

that cpu has ig?

[sand falcon]

Yup

[uncut pelican]

ooo and its cheaper

[frank stirrup]

Athlon 200ge very good enough for about 4 concurrent users

Wouldnt go above that

[uncut pelican]

and its able to handle all of the stuff?

[frank stirrup]

4 users at a time easy

[uncut pelican]

its not likely that 4 of us will be using it at the same time

awesome

seems to work out

[uncut pelican]

Does it come with a cooler?

[frank stirrup]

Pretty sure it does

Lemme check tho

[uncut pelican]

nvm lol

it does

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cT9cdD

[uncut pelican]

Although I have an extra wraith cooler I would switch it to

[sand falcon]

I think this is as cheap as it can reasonably go

Ngl, I'd swap the HDD out anyway

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXGP2V

Hmm

Case holds 4 3.5 inch drives

And a 2.5mm

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RXGP2V if you want to have 3 slots

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VgmD68 for only 2 slots

[uncut pelican]

ooo so many choices

you guys are so helpful I'm so grateful

[fossil cedar]

yw :)

[worn wave]

Everything is a 2.5" SSD mount as long as you have surface area

and VHB tape

[frank stirrup]

This has only 2 3.5"

[uncut pelican]

I think I would go for the cougar

[frank stirrup]

Guy wants 3.5" tho

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXGP2V

Look that case

[uncut pelican]

acutally

[fossil cedar]

woops thought i pulled slider to 4

[fossil cedar]

that was mistype

[frank stirrup]

Nerd

[frank stirrup]

Phil the case in the list I sent

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dmjHkX id do this instead, save 2$ and get mesh ish

[frank stirrup]

Its an athlon

Mesh no matter

An h510 will keep it cool

[uncut pelican]

Whats the deal with os?

Like how does that work

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik but cheaper

[frank stirrup]

Fair enuf

[fossil cedar]

Unactivated windows or linux distro of your choice

[uncut pelican]

Is this a local thing or can it be modified to be accessed anywhere

[fossil cedar]

Depends what way you set it up

[uncut pelican]

https://www.truenas.com/

What is this people have talked abt

[frank stirrup]

Windows for server is asking for problems

Its so painful

Use linux

[fossil cedar]

I mean you can do windows server

Windows server os is okay

[frank stirrup]

Nah

[uncut pelican]

Now, I am confused

[fossil cedar]

I've heard good things about it, never used it though

[uncut pelican]

Ok I can do some research

[frank stirrup]

Truenas is nice

[uncut pelican]

I'm assuming it's not free

[frank stirrup]

It is

[uncut pelican]

Oh good god it is

hmmm

I'll have to check it out

[uncut pelican]

Pretty swag if I do say so myself

I think I had a magazine a while back that had a nas article

[uncut pelican]

so is this the like os?

[limber oyster]

Im not going Alder lake

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[uncut pelican]

Is there any way to make the Nas accessible from anywhere

[potent portal]

Yes but you usually need a static ip address for that to work. That's usually business grade internet.

[subtle gyro]

can someone tell me radeon graphics card that can be compared to 306- performance

3060*

[frank stirrup]

My ISP does only static ip

[potent portal]

6600 or 6600XT

[potent portal]

You're in the minority then, the vast majority does dynamic shared IP

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

My other isp does dyn ip

Just main does static

Didnt have to pay extra either

[potent portal]

Lucky. My IP doesn't even do ipv4. I only get ipv6 and it's routed through a tunnel.

[frank stirrup]

I dont have any kind of ipv6 tho

Tunneled or otherwise

Ipv4 only

[potent portal]

Weird because ipv4 ran out of addresses ages ago. We're at over 12 billion internet devices.

[frank stirrup]

This isp gives me speeds pushing 300mbps on their 100mbps plan too

10/10

[rugged spear]

Was about to ask the exact same question, but you had already answered it for me, thank you!

[stoic island]

:)

Answer from more than a year ago lel

[little osprey]

wait what
how
my isp gives me 98.5

on a 100mbps plan

[uncut pelican]

Hmmm is there any other way in terms of software or nah?

[potent portal]

There's ways using a vpn service that offers static ip

[uncut pelican]

Hmm

My isp might do static not sure though

I will have to look into it

[dense hinge]

Is this a good place to ask about laptops?

[potent portal]

Sure

[dense hinge]

I was looking for suggestions on a +17" laptop with no numpad. (That way the keyboard is centralized.)
There is the Dell XPS 17, but that's a tad bit expensive with the 3060 and all.

[uncut pelican]

https://turbofuture.com/computers/How-to-Remotely-connect-to-your-NAS-device what abt this?

[jagged ember]

what purpose is it for?

[potent portal]

What's your budget and what will you use it for?

[dense hinge]

I was looking $1500 or under area. I don't need a dedicated gpu, mostly for college work, so lots of browser tabs, some excel/word, and probably a few obscure non-heavy duty programs.

[jagged ember]

no gaming?

[dense hinge]

Nah. Mainly a CHONKER of a screen, and centralized keyboard.

[jagged ember]

mm

maybe something like an hp envy?

[potent portal]

That might work but involves paid services as well

[jagged ember]

I'm not super familiar with laptops lol

[uncut pelican]

Ugh I'll just build it for local storage at first then lmao

[jagged ember]

I think I know lg gram has a 17 inch model

[neat lagoon]

Hey. I'm working on a build for myself using Newegg but I am not 100% certain if it will all work correctly. Is someone able to help?

[uncut pelican]

And is truenas a good os for it?

[jagged ember]

but it might have a numpad?

[potent portal]

Pcpartpicker.com is better than the newegg builder

[dense hinge]

Yeah, those are good, a bit pricy, but yeah, have a numpad.

[neat lagoon]

In what way exactly?

[dense hinge]

I'm checking out that hp envy, that might be a winner.

ty for the suggestion!

[potent portal]

Well for one newegg doesn't always have the best prices, pcpartpicker searches lots of sites

[dense hinge]

Ohh, the envy has a numpad. It has the right specs, and price, but not a centralized keyboard.

[potent portal]

I've also seen lots of bugs in the newegg builder also, like one person would select the power supply they wanted and it would say nothing is compatible with it

[neat lagoon]

I'll have a look at this then and see what happens.

Thanks!

[jagged ember]

rip, what about external keyboard?

[eager flower]

Wait

[jagged ember]

[idle nimbus]

hey guys i was wondering if the nzxt starter pc plus is a good buy. im thinking of buying it for black friday but before i do i wanted to ask a few questions on it…

1. can it run for long hours?
2. does it run well in fortnite, valorant, and minecraft?
3. would it be good for rendering stuff in blender?
   if anyone knows please clarify these questions for me ty
   also @ me when u answer mu questions plez

[autumn wolf]

for the most part pc's can run for long hours but its a matter of what temperatures youre getting thatll determine whether you should or not

for fortnite and valorant itll run those fine since for the most part assuming youre playing competitively, youll be running all or mostly all low settings. minecraft itll be fine unless youre running shaders then itll hit some bumbs depending on what shaders

for rendering stuff in blender? depends on what youre rendering and resolution and everything.

imo look at different prebuilts like from ABS on newegg as you can find some better spec stuff.

if you REALLY dont want anything and want nzxt, i recommend not getting that pc and getting the Starter Pro BLD Kit instead. at the same price you get a better cpu, better gpu, slightly faster ram and more storage however you have to build the pc yourself but they give you a step by step booklet to help you with building the pc

[desert gulch]

Keep in mind, REPLACE THE CRAP BOMB IN THE KIT IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE

[idle nimbus]

ah, well thank you for the answers i appreciate it very much

[desert gulch]

Yeah if you do go for bld kit, just buy a much better quality PSU, it's like 40-50 bucks

S12iii is beyond horrible

[idle nimbus]

oh

ill think about the bld kit

does nzxt pcs have sales during black friday?

[desert gulch]

Idk

[idle nimbus]

even the kits?

o

[autumn wolf]

not sure, they recently had a sale though

[idle nimbus]

oh

ok

[autumn wolf]

wasnt a big sale, think it was like 10% off but they could potentially have a sale for black friday

[idle nimbus]

ok ty

cuz i heard that nzxt is really good

like their build quality

[desert gulch]

For value rn, their BLD kits aren't bad

[idle nimbus]

etc

oh

[autumn wolf]

eh, its hit or miss with build quality. pricing wise its kinda gown down other than the bld kit

[idle nimbus]

oh

[desert gulch]

Their customer support is kinda clueless but at least you'll get a response really quick

[idle nimbus]

oh ok

[worn wave]

Having built in multiple NZXT H510 cases I can say their build quality is not that great

[idle nimbus]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

h510 is also not a great case for airflow

[idle nimbus]

then ill reconsider my thoughts on buying a nzxt pc

[worn wave]

Nor is the performance of many of their products but, if you get one of their systems at a great price it could be worth it

[idle nimbus]

ok well ty

[desert gulch]

It's not as big of a deal as them using a s12iii in their BLD kits

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[worn wave]

But it would have to be a really good price imo, otherwise buy a ABS pre-built from Newegg with a mesh front panel

[desert gulch]

No ocp on any rails as far as we know is really bad

[idle nimbus]

does anyone know w good pc which has a 3060?

like a prebuilt

[desert gulch]

Abs prolly has some on newegg

[idle nimbus]

alr ty

[desert gulch]

Yea

[idle nimbus]

ima check rn

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali580/p/N82E16883360215?Description=abs gaming pc&cm_re=abs_gaming pc-_-83-360-215-_-Product

do u think its good?

[obsidian wigeon]

that one looks good

has mesh front and all

[idle nimbus]

alr pog

tysm everyone

it has a lot of bad reviews

im gojng to browse a bit more

[worn wave]

Just looking at all the bad reviews right now it looks like people who most likely do not know what they are talking about

Most of the time 1 star reviews are human error or people not informed correctly about certain things

[desert gulch]

Id say tho for that price that abs system isn't amazing

[idle nimbus]

oh

[desert gulch]

Nzxt BLD kit is a 11400f and 3060ti and has a 1tb sn550

I'd say that's worth the extra 130 bucks but it's up to you

[idle nimbus]

i mean ill think about the bld thing

[desert gulch]

Yeah for sure

[idle nimbus]

yeah

ty

[desert gulch]

Yea np

[idle nimbus]

if u guys want to u can find me some good pcs which are under 1.3k, that is if u want to

[desert gulch]

I'll ping you if I find a deal on one

[idle nimbus]

alr pog ty

or u can dm me

[desert gulch]

Yeah sure

[idle nimbus]

alr gtg ty everyone for helping me find a pc that would satisfy me, byee

[steep berry]

hey everyone! i was just wondering, if I were to upgrade my current build, what would you suggest i upgrade first? this is it right now: CASE - NZXT H510i (Black - Red)

CPU COOLING - NZXT Kraken X63
MOTHERBOARD - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi)
GPU(GRAPHICS) - Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - ZOTAC Twin Fan
CPU - Intel Core i9-9900K 8-Core 3.6 GHz
POWER SUPPLY - EVGA SuperNOVA 850W G3 Gold
RAM - G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz
SSD - Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1.0 TB)
SSD - WD Blue 3D NAND (1.0 TB)

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcWcdD how’s this

[desert gulch]

Free microcenter ssd's?

Lol

Not bad tho

[full atlas]

Yea

[obsidian wigeon]

don't upgrade atm ngl

with that thing

ya gotta swap mobo and cpu

[earnest olive]

upgrade the case if you are itching for an upgrade lol

h510 is pretty bad for CPU thermals, might be able to push more out of your 9900K with a better case

but it's not really a big deal anyways

if your system works it works

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[steep berry]

ok thanks!

[earnest olive]

you have a pretty balanced build overall so there's no one piece that really screams "upgrade" you know?

[vague oracle]

Lmao looks like a quarter of the budget went into the mobo

[limber oyster]

Anyone know why my desktop won't boot when plugged into a tv, but will when plugged into a monitor?

[earnest olive]

oh I know I meant cpu and gpu

I'm not about to suggest a mobo upgrade

for a 9900K

storage and ram is fine

etc

what's he gonna do, downgrade the board?

[little osprey]

funny.

[wide sparrow]

https://youtu.be/d1LPCLt7s2g

[obsidian wigeon]

the psu

looks so cheaped out lmao

[little osprey]

im so tired of "wow expensive computer" builds and videos

i wanna see something unique

[obsidian wigeon]

budget badly allocated man

3k coulda had a beast psu

and 700w on a 3080

yikes

this dude really doesn't know things

[little osprey]

🚒

oops

🔥

well i guess the fire truck gets the message across too

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[frank stirrup]

Sad

[little osprey]

i have been summoned

💀

[obsidian wigeon]

scalping at its finest

[little osprey]

[insert trash can joke here]

[obsidian wigeon]

it's

a trash can full of cash at least

[little osprey]

I may finally get my rams and build my 12900k today too

[flint sapphire]

I’m just gunna wait for second gen on tht ddr5 hopefully price on those bad boys will go down a bit and the performance uplift will be there by then

I mean processor’s btw

[little osprey]

im not changing platform in my main system for another 3 years probably

doing fine on my b450 and 3900x

[flint sapphire]

I’m hoping the prices drop on the 5900x right before amds next release so I can just do a tiny upgrade and waste a bit of money

[little osprey]

well good luck lol

im trying to get some hardware for some lga2011 overclocking

[flint sapphire]

It’s fine if they don’t but the cpu seems to be in stock

[little osprey]

need to get an ln2 pot, a cpu (probably gonna get a 1680v2), and a bunch of other stuff

already have the board though

[flint sapphire]

Auto correct is driving me crazy

[little osprey]

yeai hate typing on phones

[flint sapphire]

I’m prob never going to get into ln2 overclocking but it seems like a good time.

[little osprey]

yea i havent tried it yet

ive been getting into XOCing recently

[flint sapphire]

Been watching Steve doing it and you got a urge huh? Lol

[little osprey]

nah actually but i have watched his stuff before

I dont remember how I got so interested in it lol

[flint sapphire]

Damn lol I’ve seen some of his livestreams so I’ve been a bit interested but I don’t think I can actually afford to be too interested 👀

[little osprey]

well ln2 OCing can get a bit pricey pretty quick i think, but you can still put together a really effective cooling solution for pretty cheap

Just this weekend actually, I put together an ice-water setup for an event at my college. you can see it in #build-pics

just have to scroll up a bit

#build-pics message

[flint sapphire]

Ah very cool

[little osprey]

funny pun 🗿

[flint sapphire]

Yeah my build isn’t too wild, 3800x 2080ti. And thank you 🗿

Pretty much muted besides accent light in a meshify c

[little osprey]

my personal system isnt too crazy either

pretty much all my focus goes on putting together and messing around with other platforms and stuff, part of that is overclocking, but yea

[flint sapphire]

I have a pretty moderate overclock on my gpu and a minor one on cpu… nothing you can’t do on air tho

[little osprey]

I just did a super quick and dirty OC on my 3900X. its at 1.25V at 4.3GHz or something

ok... and for some reason cpu-z cant get some info from my cpu now lmao

[flint sapphire]

I’m at work so can’t really hop on and post everything but… I know my cpu is overvolted like crazy lol… msi… I think it’s at around 4.2-4.3 kinda got a bad one

[little osprey]

do you remember what its at?

[flint sapphire]

Nah think the voltage is pretty close to 1.4

[little osprey]

im not really that familiar with AMD overclocking, ive always been more focused on intel architectures, even before i got into XOCing

oh alright

[flint sapphire]

It’s again high af

Lol

[little osprey]

👀

so its just not stable at anything under?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah pretty much

Messed with it for a while with my brother. Nothing seemed to really help

[little osprey]

hmm

[flint sapphire]

I’m very happy with it as it is, doesn’t get super hot under full load, around 72c on air

[little osprey]

well thats not bad

[flint sapphire]

Again no real issues with performance just that weird overvolt to get anywhere on the oc, probably killing the longevity of it but 🤷‍♂️

[little osprey]

possibly

I definitely degraded the 1660v3 I was overclocking though lmao

Got it around 1.58V on ice water, temps were under control, but i guess that CPU had had enough overclocking after being run at around 1.36V for about 3 weeks before that lol

[flint sapphire]

Oh god it started just giving up on ya huh? Lol

[little osprey]

yup.

I was trying really hard to hit that 5GHz milestone

But I probably would've needed upwards of 1.6V to do that speed all-core, and i just couldnt push that high on ice water

I got some good scores though, and some really good ones that i wasnt freaking able to screenshot to submit to HWBot

got a 1958 on r15 and 4480 on r20 that are lost now

so bummed

[flint sapphire]

Awww dang, how high up is tht on the board even

[little osprey]

also wasted 4 hours because i tried reinstalling W7 to see if maybe the OS was getting corrupted, although unlikely, and when i reinstalled benchmate it wouldnt freaking work

so after that i just manually installed each benchmark and monitoring software

wasted so much time

[flint sapphire]

Ah that’s rough man rip

[little osprey]

here's what I was able to submit
https://hwbot.org/submission/4848707_ r15
https://hwbot.org/submission/4848711_ superpi1M
https://hwbot.org/submission/4848057_ 11.5

[flint sapphire]

Noottt tooo shabby well done

[little osprey]

yea thats what i heard from other people, and i guess it is alright but im still super unsatisfied

i was on almost no sleep and barely any food because of the event's time limit i was participating in, and i lost such good scores :(

[flint sapphire]

I try not to touch overclocking because I’m worried about the unsatfaction of the whole thing lol

[little osprey]

4.9GHz at somehow only 1.475V in a friggin AVX benchmark. was never able to do that run again anywhere near those settings

[flint sapphire]

My brother got wrapped up in ocing his newest gpu for his entire work shift a couple weeks ago

[little osprey]

you know, its just sort of a weird hobby. it can be really tedious, but REALLY satisfying, and just fun messing with hardware

[flint sapphire]

Oh yeah I get it man that’s why I’m avoiding it lol

Specially if I start bricking components in this market

Lol

[little osprey]

this market? nah you dont need to worry about that. you dont have to buy the latest hardware to oc

heck, im about to OC some hardware from 2013

x79

if old hedt is sitll expensive, you could do z87 too

just as an example

[flint sapphire]

True true, but I buy pc hardware for most practical uses and just prefer the newer stuff, I wouldn’t just buy stuff just for overclocking. Guess you could make a server or something out of it but still

[little osprey]

that older hardware i was using to OC is still pretty capable hardware

The 1660v3 I used, still pretty good

8 core haswell

100 bucks on ebay

heck you can get 14 core haswell xeons for about 200 bucks, although that one (e5 2697v3) is locked

[flint sapphire]

Definitely a great budget rig for most of anything. Still though all I see it as is kinda a money drain. Unlike buying a new 5900x to replace my barely old 3800x 👀

[little osprey]

depends on what you'd do with the hardware

[flint sapphire]

Just gaming and spreadsheets aka my current hardware is already overkill and totally unnecessary

[little osprey]

well just remember you could put together an OCing setup for really cheap

another example on x79, the e5 1650 only goes for about 25 bucks

1650v2 goes for around 35-40

[flint sapphire]

It’s true… but 👀 hear me out

I could order lunch for those 25 dollars

[little osprey]

a pretty competent OCing lga2011 board only costs around 100-130

bruh.

[flint sapphire]

Lol

[little osprey]

25 dollar lunch? thats an expensive lunch

you'd throw away a whole experience just for a single meal or two? 😔

dont knock it till you try it

[flint sapphire]

Food is the experience, don’t knock it till you try it. I completely agree with everything your saying, just don’t think I want to get into another potentially expensive hobby is all

[little osprey]

oh i get it then lol

i have 2 expensive hobbies which kinda sucks in a way

[flint sapphire]

Yeahhhh

[little osprey]

Here's the x79 board I got 👀

extreme9

[flint sapphire]

👀 danggg looks beastly

Those heatsinks

[little osprey]

yea i got it on fb marketplace for 135 + all its original accessories and box

i was like

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[flint sapphire]

Def a great option 👀

[little osprey]

yea the board came with its sound card too

im into audio so that was a bonus lol

[flint sapphire]

Gotta watch out for parents punishing kids by selling their entire gaming setup on fb marketplace btw… my buddy a few years ago got a full setup like complete chair desk peripherals for 1200

2070super

Like dang fb marketplace

Some crazy good deals on there

[little osprey]

yea

actually i just came across this earlier https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/590936705365104/?

the CPU is pretty much crap but 200 + 20 for shipping just for the board isnt a bad deal

[flint sapphire]

Oooo I’ve always loved taichi boards

[limber oyster]

Anyone know why my desktop won't boot when plugged into a tv, but will when plugged into a monitor?

[flint sapphire]

Is it just not showing a image?

Or no lights/fans working in the pc when you go to boot it

🗿

I am now thinking you figured it out and feel bad 👀

[fossil cedar]

So pricey thoo

[flint sapphire]

Psshhh I wanted the taichi x570 a little while ago, was around 180 on sale

Has plenty of features for the price though

Pretty sure it has thunderbolt support even 👀

Ah I seem to be remembering wrong

[fossil cedar]

Might have thunderbolt header or something

[little osprey]

im upgrading to windows 11

[fossil cedar]

I'd advise not to tbh

[frank stirrup]

Tons of amd boards have usb c

Very few have thunderbolt over usb c

[vague oracle]

I think only like one or two have thunderbolt

[flint sapphire]

1.352-1.44 under load 1.44 is the max ive seen it hit, it tops out at 4300MHz when it spikes

[frank stirrup]

Yeah. I cant remember any of the top of my head

[flint sapphire]

im looking at the board now, it says thunderbolt 3 ready 👀

i was right

"Thunderbolt 3 AIC Header"

[frank stirrup]

That means you can add thunderbolt 3 using an add in card

Slap it into a slap it into a pcie gen 3 x4 slot

And ur off to the races

Works with any board

Has an intel thunderbolt chipset in the card

Taichi doesnt have thunderbolt 3 support

@flint sapphire

[worn wave]

I have a Z170 board with Thunderbolt 3

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

Thunderbolt was designed by apple and intel and a few others

Amd wasnt involved

So its semi proprietary

[fossil cedar]

ProArt does and one of the like 500$ boards

[limber oyster]

Just goes thru post for hours on end

[twilit salmon]

Didnt know where to ask this but does anyone know if microcenter sells PSU cables?

[fossil cedar]

Psu cables come with your psu, very few psu cables are sold separately cuz the pinouts are different on most psus

[twilit salmon]

Alright

I knew they came with it but i was wanting to buy a separate one since i only have one 4+4 pin connector for CPU

[fossil cedar]

That's plenty ,that supports up to like 420w ish

[twilit salmon]

Alright thanks

Was trying to ask about it yesterday and asked 3 times but no one ever responded

[fossil cedar]

Np

[frank stirrup]

Yeah I was talking mobo names exclusively tbh

Like they rare

[fossil cedar]

Yis

[untold vessel]

Can anyone here make a $1,500 Gaming PC Build (No Graphics Card, I’ll use the best iGPU) that MAXIMIZES PERFORMANCE and takes advantage of Any and All Black Friday Deals? I absolutely only care about Performance

[carmine tinsel]

can someone help me with a build, i like to use an i7 10th or 11th gen for roughly around 1,500

[fossil cedar]

Why no graphics card at that price?? You can straight up buy a 3070 prebuilt for that

[fossil cedar]

I'd go for an i5 10400/11400 depending on country

[untold vessel]

Okay okay, Could you make a $1,500 that is Maxed-Out for 4K gaming?

[carmine tinsel]

US

[fossil cedar]

Not really, 3070 can do like 4k 60 but why not just do 1440p, best of both worlds, better than 1080p, can have larger screen and more fps

[fossil cedar]

Then I'd go for 10400 and b560 motherboard

If you want me to put a list together i can

Or you could get this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221?item=N82E16883360221&itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0

[untold vessel]

Hmm, Fair enough, would $2,000 work for you?

[carmine tinsel]

this is great thanks

[untold vessel]

Yes please, I need that Pato-Genius Special

[fossil cedar]

I mean all depends on your luck with gpu prices

[fossil cedar]

Np

[carmine tinsel]

and also if you wouldn't mind

unless it's cheaper for the prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

Any visual preferences?

[fossil cedar]

It can be cheaper, depends what you can get a graphics card for, but you cant buy them right now, whereas with the prebuilt you can so, depends if you're okay with waiting a few months

And a good bit of work to get a gpu

[carmine tinsel]

yeah i can just get a 6600XT from Microcenter

so not the worst concern

[fossil cedar]

6600xt is a good bit worse than 3070

[carmine tinsel]

yeah ik

[fossil cedar]

6600xt is about 3060 level

[carmine tinsel]

and the drivers aren't the best

[fossil cedar]

Nah drivers are good

[mossy venture]

3070=2080 ti, 6600xt is around 2070s

[fossil cedar]

Problem is price and 3070 being way better

[carmine tinsel]

okay

yeah

[fossil cedar]

2070 not 2070 super

[carmine tinsel]

well i got a guy

[fossil cedar]

....

[mossy venture]

I thought it was about 5% better than 5700xt?

[carmine tinsel]

he works there

[mossy venture]

The 6600xt that is

[carmine tinsel]

so if they get a shipment i'll know yk

[fossil cedar]

Yes but thats not really the problem, you can ring and ask their restock days

It's the price and 6600xt probs being like 600$ which is like 3060 ti/3070/6700xt/6800 price

Imo your best bet is the prebuilt

@untold vessel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KmNywz I'd do something like this

@carmine tinsel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZG2rz7 or you can do this

[carmine tinsel]

yeah

[autumn tide]

How do you update the ryzen motherboards for the current amd cpus?

[fossil cedar]

Do you have a previous gen ryzen cpu or not?

[autumn tide]

No

That’s why I’m asking now

[fossil cedar]

What motherboard you got?

[stoic island]

some boards have flashback, some don't

[autumn tide]

Honestly i was thinking about getting a gigabyte motherboard

[fossil cedar]

Depends on what one

[autumn tide]

X570

[fossil cedar]

I'd get b550 instead

90% of the time

[autumn tide]

B550 is my other option

[stoic island]

if you need wifi, b550 aorus pro ac/ax great

[autumn tide]

Also looking at four usb 2.0 ports

[fossil cedar]

That has that

4 usb 2.0 ports is a pretty easy ask

Also usb 3.0 is backwards compatible too so

Basically all of them have at least 4

[autumn tide]

Oh yeah 3.0

[sharp tangle]

the gigabyte aorus pro ac b550 is on sale for like 162 on amazon rn if you do that

i ordered it last night

[autumn tide]

I have that on my amazon list

Honestly I’m doing my build one by one

[shrewd fjord]

Daym I found an old office computer my dad had with windows 7 pro and I downloaded Minecraft and it opens just fine but it tells me that I need to update video drivers. I tried to do that and it seems like every little thing pops up an error message and wont let me download the drivers.

[autumn tide]

That’s not good

[shrewd fjord]

Yeah...

[fossil cedar]

Buying one by one? Horrible idea

If you get dead on arrival part, rip

[twilit salmon]

So since im buying my parts 2 weeks apart would it be better to buy motherboard and cooler first or CPU?

[analog hearth]

probably CPU first

has more value

(afaik)

[twilit salmon]

Alright

[analog hearth]

and motherboards usually don't go out of stock as often

(iirc)

[twilit salmon]

Yeah thats why i wasnt sure

[fossil cedar]

Why not just buy both at same time? Literally 0 point buying 1 at a time

[twilit salmon]

Was wanting to cover it with my paycheck

So i know i still have about the same amount i had before it

[fossil cedar]

Huh? Just keep the money until you have enough to buy both?

[twilit salmon]

I have enough to buy both just figured itd be a good idea to separate the purchases

[fossil cedar]

Nah, if you only technically have enough and want money for food etc just wait 2 weeks or so and buy both at same time

[twilit salmon]

Alright

[pastel cobalt]

Hi, everyone! I was lucky enough to buy a 3070, but I’ve been debating whether or not to keep it. I currently have a 5600xt in my PC, but im on the causal side of gaming. Is it worth the upgrade from a 5600xt to a 3070 or should I just save my money? I’m not too educated on how to tell the difference. Thanks!

[lyric thistle]

should've checked before buying lol

[analog hearth]

i would say definitely keep it. you never know when you’ll come across such a find again

[lyric thistle]

but honestly sell the 5600xt for an effective discount :^)

[ocean oxide]

hello, im wondering if my pc would be able to run a VR? im not very good with pc stuff so i wouldnt know

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Cheesi_/saved/#view=Tc86rH

also what vr would you guys recommend if i could use it

also i have a gtx 970, not the gpu listed there

[mossy venture]

Gtx 970 would struggle with a lot of vr games I think

[frank stirrup]

Depends what you wanna run on vr

[fossil cedar]

Have you already bought this? If not delete like the whole list

If you have and it's recent return everything bar the WiFi module maybe

@ocean oxide if you haven't had that for a while, what's your budget?

[frank stirrup]

Im pretty sure guy has all that stuff pato

Saved list

And a gpu upgrade later on

BUT it does say christmas build

So yeah

Might be

HMMM

[ocean oxide]

yes i already got it. its name is christmas build from last year

[ocean oxide]

probably like $250, but i dont know the price range of vrs so it could go higher if needed

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhh that makes way more sense

[ocean oxide]

i didnt get the gpu until like 4 months later, thats why its changed to a 970

[fossil cedar]

Oculus quest is probs your best bet for vr, it's standalone but you can plug in to pc if you wish and or its like 300$

[ocean oxide]

ah alright thanks. ill look into that one

[fossil cedar]

Also I'd highly consider getting better ram

[ocean oxide]

i know, i should have gotten two sticks of 8 instead of 1 16

[fossil cedar]

That and it's really slow ram, definitely holding back your cpu

[ocean oxide]

oh ok i didnt know that

how do i tell a slow ram from a faster one

[fossil cedar]

See the way yours says 2666mhz cl19

That's very slow

[ocean oxide]

o

[fossil cedar]

You'd want something like 3200mhz cl16, which for a 16gb kit is like 50$

32gb is 100$

[ocean oxide]

if i do get a faster ram like that one, do i have to take out the old one and put that in?

or can i put both

and it would be 32gb

[fossil cedar]

No you'll have to take out the old stick

You might be able to sell it for like 25-30$ though

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5 I'd get a kit like this

[ocean oxide]

oh okay thank you

and i can just take it out and put the new one in without having to change anything on my pc?

[random latch]

Hey guys, I am in Kenya, and I would like to build my first PC. Does Newegg ship to Kenya? Or rather, where can I get parts that are fair?

Then, can anyone make a list of the best mid gaming gadgets? I will really appreciate

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

I don't know if they do, they have a store in saudi arabia though, they might ship from there to kenya

[random latch]

So I will be charged from the US to Saudi, the Saudi to Kenya?

[fossil cedar]

Nope they have a store in saudi, so it would be just saudi to kenya, assuming they ship to kenya

[random latch]

Okay. Let me see

Thank you

[fossil cedar]

Np

[shrewd fjord]

@fossil cedar can you help maybe?

[little osprey]

Bro

My Asus is still giving me a solid white light for my VGA

[fossil cedar]

whats your gpu

[shrewd fjord]

None

Its intel graphics

[fossil cedar]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html run this

@little osprey probs because your gpu is in the bottom slot, why would you do that? Bad for airflow and some baoards are only x8 wiring to x16 slots fyi

[little osprey]

I think the other slot has a bad lane

That's the only reason it's there

[fossil cedar]

Try put it back

If not rma your motherboard

乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ

[frank stirrup]

Its also routed through chipset so a lil more latency

And its not reinforced so more sag

Just put it in top slot

[digital trail]

hi

[frank stirrup]

Hello

[digital trail]

@frank stirrup i want play a game use ps controler what is best ps4 , ps5 ?