building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

I mean, that's not too rare

I throw away some boxes soon after getting them

[jagged ember]

I throw em away after the return period ends

[stoic island]

To keep room clean and have space

[jagged ember]

until then the box is staying

unless I really don't care about the product like if it's a deskpad

[lusty tendon]

Got an ASUS (TUF gaming) FX705GM laptop, 2.5 years old, everything worked perfectly fine until I played GTA V and then suddenly the entire thing shut down and the LEDs that indicate that it's charging or that the charger is connected stopped working as well. I can't turn it on at all, it's not even going into POST.

I used a multimeter to troubleshoot my charger, but the AC adapter that I stick into the laptop is outputting the right voltage (19.7 V to be exact for my AC). I did the usual as well with going into the laptop, disconnecting the battery (once alone and another time with CMOS as well) - then I stuck in the AC adapter again to see if it would work but still nothing.

For context there was no smoke, no sound and nothing obvious that instantly happened at the moment of the crash - it was as if it had force shutdowned - not even so much as a windows logo, just a black screen

And I couldn't smell anything that might indicate something has fried

After having googled, only thing I could find on google was that it's either the AC adapter (not in my case because the multimeter says it's fine), the battery (again that shouldn't be a problem because if I disconnect it, the laptop should then work off of the AC adapter being connected), the AC jack (one thing I'm not sure of) or the MOBO

I'm just wondering if is the AC jack or something else I haven't thought of - because the RAM sticks are fine (and i tested both of them), the fans are working fine (they are recently replaced ones that I bought from a qualified seller), the SSDs are just fine and the thermal paste isn't seeping out into any components (it even has a black film + other means of protection to prevent this)

[earnest olive]

sudden death like that is probably something on the mobo

[still roost]

Elodere#3872 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

if AC adapter failed you'd see gaming perf sharply drop as it switched to battery

instead of immediate death

if battery failed you'd still be able to run on AC

[lusty tendon]

Yeah it was literally just an instant death

[earnest olive]

i think instant death can only be a failure on the motherboard

[lusty tendon]

But that's crazy though, how would that happen if everything seems to be fine?

[earnest olive]

especially if you were able to test ram, fans, storage, etc

[lusty tendon]

I saw no clear indicators of any damage anywhere whatsoever

And it's not like this thing has been around for ages, it's only been 2.5 years roughly

[earnest olive]

i am not smart enough to tell you about tiny component failures

i just think logically it has to be mobo

[lusty tendon]

me neither, I have no clue how electricians do that stuff lol

yeah I get it

[earnest olive]

could be some tiny cap or resistor anywhere

[lusty tendon]

you think it's still worth a shot to go to the repair shop in case it's something else?

[earnest olive]

even on cpu or gpu package

could be BGA problem

[lusty tendon]

BGA?

[earnest olive]

if cpu/gpu solder balls cracked

it could have disconnected the cpu without you being able to see it

kind of unlikely for 2.5 year old device but idk

not impossible

[lusty tendon]

for context, this repair shop was recommended to me by my parents, so they seem to be fine

they've worked with them before

[earnest olive]

sometimes overtightening a cooler can crack that solder

you mentioned working on it yourself so it's not 0% chance

[fossil cedar]

Still bad price

[earnest olive]

if it's a solder problem it's technically fixable? might cost more than the laptop is worth

those tiny solder balls are not easy to work with

[lusty tendon]

the thing is, this is copper pipes we're talking about, and the last time I ever opened it and put on some paste was in february

and it's worked mighty fine

until it didn't, in an instant

[earnest olive]

it can take some time to fail

you ever heard of people reviving dead gpu by baking it?

same thing

heat reflows the cracked solder

[lusty tendon]

oooooh

[lusty tendon]

actually this is the first time I've heard of this

[earnest olive]

anyways, i am not saying this is likely to be the cause, just throwing out possibilities considering you can't see any damage

[lusty tendon]

yeah, thanks so much for the quick response

I really appreciate it

[earnest olive]

but yeah there are so many tiny components it's hard to figure out

[lusty tendon]

hopefully the repair shop maybe has some answers that aren't too costly

[earnest olive]

maybe you can have the repair shop go over everything with a multimeter and look for shorts

do they do like a free or cheap diagnosis kind of thing?

[lusty tendon]

I think so yeah

[earnest olive]

yeah might be a good bet then

i do desktop repairs, i'm not good enough to do it on a sub component level though so i pretty much just figure out which part is causing the problem and replace it

i do free diagnosis if i can't fix the problem

[chrome jackal]

i need to find a decent price on a 6600 gpu

[remote iron]

anyone have a build thats between 500 or 600

[earnest olive]

target a used gtx 970 for around $150 imo

once you find that you can build the rest around it

[viral ore]

quick note on that, do not bake pcbs in the same oven you bake food in.

[earnest olive]

heat gun is a superior solution to oven for sure

[viral ore]

definetly, you can get paint stripping heat guns for a reasonable price.

mine does 500F and 1000F

roughly

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWFw9N this'll get the job done, you have some budget room left so you can do some upgrades such as
upgrade to 1tb ssd or add 2tb hdd to the 500gb ssd
add rgb lol
you could go for a 10400f cpu if you don't care about either of the above and don't mind stretching a little past 600, debatable how much this matters with a 970 though

10400f no frills: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BR72p2

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M8pdp2 10100f + spending like $30 on some rgb for fun

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Np72p2 10100f + fat storage

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2vLht or finally 10100f + 1tb ssd

@remote iron knock yourself out

[remote iron]

thanks

[earnest olive]

np

look for the gtx 970 on r/hardwareswap

i've gotten some for below $150 so $150 is a reasonable price target

[remote iron]

is there a way to save it ?

[earnest olive]

you can just save/bookmark the link, it doesn't go away

[remote iron]

alright

[chrome jackal]

@earnest olive will this be good

my dad is not looking to spend $600

[earnest olive]

depends on your definition of good

that's a pretty good price for a 1650

but what are you expecting it to do?

if you want to play games like csgo, league, rocket league, overwatch, it'll do pretty well

if you want to play games like cyberpunk or flight sim 2020 it won't do very well

[chrome jackal]

i had a gt1030

[earnest olive]

it's about 3 times as powerful as the 1030

[chrome jackal]

nice

[earnest olive]

and about half as powerful as the rx 6600

it all comes down to expectations

[chrome jackal]

i can’t find a decent price for my dad to spend

[earnest olive]

for people playing flight sim at 4K 3090 is too weak

but many people can be happy with a 1650 for esports and slightly older titles at 1080p60

[chrome jackal]

is there any $6600 for a decent price

[earnest olive]

rx 6600?

will probably be in the $500 range

[chrome jackal]

yikes my dad was like that’s expensive

msi recommend me 1650

[earnest olive]

1650 for $210 is not bad

[chrome jackal]

will i need extra power

[lyric thistle]

Nope

Runs off of the slot

75w

[chrome jackal]

i am trying to not have too many cables

[lyric thistle]

Doesn't make much difference to me

[chrome jackal]

will this be better then a 1030

[lyric thistle]

Yep

Should be on par with like...a 1060 3gb

[chrome jackal]

yeah

[chrome jackal]

Dennis $600 for just a grafics card about the 6600 gpu

that’s crazy price

[real grail]

Need some help people .... Just got an alder lake i9 processor and compatible motherboard. The mother board has a slot for an nvme ssd. I have an old m.2 ssd from my old razor laptop from 2015. Should I be concerned about compatibility Or can I just slot it in ???

[fossil cedar]

Nope slot in, although you'll want to reinstall windows if you're using it as your main drive to avoid motherboard swap errors

[real grail]

This is a brand new build .... Got my hands on a 3060 last week. Now I need to buy my dream cases, the thermaltek view 71. I'm going full RGB on this build. So excited. Haven't built a PC in 10 years.

Thanks @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Np

[errant fiber]

hey patio

oops

pato

@fossil cedar i ended up buying off of nzxt but cancelled because it was an idiot decision

so then i bought something off of newegg for way cheaper and it has the same specs

[fossil cedar]

Lol good

[errant fiber]

Check this out on @Newegg: ASUS ROG Strix GA15DK Gaming Desktop PC, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, GeForce RTX 3070, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD, Wi-Fi 5, Windows 10 Home, GA15DK-DS776 https://www.newegg.com/asus-ga15dk-ds776/p/N82E16883221675?Item=N82E16883221675&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-221-675-_-11042021

i purchased this

and i'm going to recase it

and do my own upgrades to it

do you know any solid cases?

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Oven crap cancel it

Bad cooler too

Cheap mobo

[errant fiber]

i'm recasing it and doing a new cpu cooler and all that

[fossil cedar]

Why

[errant fiber]

is that a bad idea?

[chrome jackal]

gamers nexus review lots of pre builts

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[chrome jackal]

he will be like no don’t get it

dell uses a intel bracket on a allienware amd cpu

[errant fiber]

why

[chrome jackal]

that’s cheap

[errant fiber]

just an extra $150-200

[fossil cedar]

Bad mobo bad cooler, overpriced

Overpriced in the first place

Also are you buying a prebuilt because you don't wanna build or because easier for gpu?

F1

[errant fiber]

it's my first pc, and i'm willing to learn and do upgrades to it since it has some cooling problems and all that

[chrome jackal]

it’s easy

[chrome jackal]

the careful part is the cpu

[fossil cedar]

Still, they skimp on mobo and stuff too

[errant fiber]

what's the difference between the mobo it comes with and one that's a normal ATX not mATX

[fossil cedar]

It's a b550 prime board, not enough for 5800x, matx is just form factor

[errant fiber]

what's a good motherboard to pair it with?

and how's it not enough

[chrome jackal]

probably Proprietary

[fossil cedar]

Nope prime b550 not proprietary

[fossil cedar]

Bad vrms

[stoic island]

Depends on which b550 board, but some just have crappy VRMs that won't have fun with a 5800x

[fossil cedar]

Like asus tuf of gigabyte aourus elite or something

[stoic island]

5800x gets hot and can draw a decent amount of power

[fossil cedar]

It's a prime

[stoic island]

Prime b550-a is ok, Prime B550m-k sucky

[fossil cedar]

Think it's k

Linus did vid on

Had 0 heatsink

[chrome jackal]

dam

[stoic island]

Just get pro vdh wifi at that point :p

[chrome jackal]

i don’t recommend allienware

[stoic island]

Cheap with decent VRMs

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but no point buying crappy asus prebuilt to remake

[stoic island]

(and actually a small heatsink on the VRMs)

But yea crappy prebuilts are just that, annoying to deal with

[chrome jackal]

yeah junk

[fossil cedar]

@errant fiber why fix up when you could do this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali506-gladiator/p/N82E16883360106R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=4&quicklink=true

For cheaper

[errant fiber]

i don't want to go open box

i had a bad experience with my last one

[fossil cedar]

@errant fiber https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=7&quicklink=true then get this and swap the cpu if you want an 8 core so bad

[errant fiber]

Ok i requested an order cancel

how long does it take

[stoic island]

Shouldn't take more than a few hours

[errant fiber]

alright

[earnest olive]

should be fine for stock maybe not for pushing 200W PPT

[errant fiber]

does it matter what reason i choose to cancel it

[fossil cedar]

The board has negative heatsinks i stg

Say you changed mind or found better product

[earnest olive]

it's not that bad of a board the vrms can handle 105-142w for sure

uhh

are we looking at the same board

[errant fiber]

alright i did

[earnest olive]

it's not the best sure but it's got heatsinks

[stoic island]

Prime b550m-k was what we thought it was

[earnest olive]

oh

[stoic island]

B550-plus and b550-a should be okay

[earnest olive]

yeah ok nvm that is an ewaste mobo

[fossil cedar]

Afaik it's b550 k

[earnest olive]

all I saw was b550 prime

prime b550m-k is ewaste

lower end a520 board in disguise

not a very good disguise either

[errant fiber]

okay the newegg order was voided

[earnest olive]

they could have at least taped some shiny cardboard onto the vrms smh

[stoic island]

It's not even a decent a520 board, it's a 50$ a520 board turned b550 :p

[errant fiber]

how long do i wait for the money to go back into my bank

[earnest olive]

asus moment

[stoic island]

That depends, it's better to ask the bank yourself

[potent portal]

Depends on your bank

[earnest olive]

name all the motherboards the same thing with some random alphabet soup at the end

hope people get confused and buy your terrible products

[stoic island]

Lol

[potent portal]

Usually 1-3 days, maybe 4 if your bank policies suck

[errant fiber]

alright

[stoic island]

Pro-vdh is the only alphabet soup board that's decent :p

[earnest olive]

oh god

imagine if asus started doing 3 letters

[stoic island]

Oh god

[earnest olive]

every board is just rog strix + 3 letters

asus rog strix-fff is an a520 mobo with 3 phases and no vrm heatsinks

[stoic island]

"Do I buy Prime GSH or Prime Xxx Gamerboard xxX or Rog strix HDG"

Are there even 3 phase pwm controllers?

[earnest olive]

asus rog strix-aaa is a $1200 mobo with 69 phase 90A vrms and monoblock

[stoic island]

I know some boards do 3+1 core+io

With a 4 phase pwm controller

[earnest olive]

what if 2 phases for core, 1 phase for igpu, 1 phase for memory

cursed

[stoic island]

Ah yes

[earnest olive]

if dell could make a 1 phase motherboard I bet they would

[stoic island]

CPU: Can I have 1.2v
Mobo: Best I can do is 12v

[little osprey]

CPU: can I have 1.2v
Gigabyte PSU:

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-power-supply-bomb-gn-gif-22830454

[earnest olive]

1usmus would love a mobo that's willing to supply 12v to cpu

[stoic island]

Lol

[stoic island]

They doesn't want 12vo, they want 240vo :D

[earnest olive]

[little osprey]

[frank stirrup]

God no please

[earnest olive]

yes

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[little osprey]

super over-clocks\

[cunning spade]

Have y’all got any part from Newegg?

S

[potent portal]

Tons
Why?

[cunning spade]

Just asking

How long does the parts take tkk on come in?

To

[potent portal]

It depends on where you are and what warehouse it ships from

[earnest olive]

I bought a dozen eggs from newegg

they were indeed new

[potent portal]

Stuff usually ships from socal for me and comes in a day or two

If it ships from Kentucky to me it's around 4 days

[fossil cedar]

All i have is old eggs :0

[little osprey]

aygg

[analog hearth]

ha you're bad

gottem

[stable tinsel]

Does anyone have 32gb ddr4 recommendations for under 200$ Canadian has to be rgb

[potent portal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/xn848d/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw32gx4m2d3600c18

Just remember that you're sacrificing some performance for the rgb at that price

[fossil cedar]

Those timings killl me

[potent portal]

I know, but that's what you get for 200 cad if you have to have rgb

For under 10ns cas it's 226 cad

[fossil cedar]

Btw their formula for that is v wrong lol it just uses cl and not timings

[fossil cedar]

I'd go this saving a few bucks https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZRpmP6/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf4d432g3600hc18jdc01 or thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/H7hmP6/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzn

[potent portal]

I avoid recommending team unless I know what board they're running, they've had compatibility issues

[potent portal]

Yeah that's why I specified 10ns cas, not first word

[fossil cedar]

Oh really?

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[vestal flare]

Do you think a 1600af and a 1060 6gb can handle vanguard?

I bought a 1060 off my friend for $100 and recently a 1600af from the internet so

[jagged ember]

you really shouldn't ask people after you buy your parts...

and by vanguard, you mean COD vanguard?

as in the latest one?

if so, maybe on lowest settings it'll have at most 60fps

[little osprey]

hey im upgrading my rig i made this part list up is this alright for under 2000 au

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6vd8LP

[trail sundial]

I run warzone on an rx 550 level nvidia quadro

It runs, not good, but it does

So don’t expect much, but you should manage in low settings

As for the cpu, I have no clue what the 1600af is

[vestal flare]

I know what id be getting when it comes to performance not gonna lie im just a person who needs like reassurance tbh

[little osprey]

would you guys changing anything on my build list https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6vd8LP

[vestal flare]

Not necessarily but id only get one set of 3200mhz ram instead of 2

[desert gulch]

Why 32 gigs

Yeah

Also prolly better options out there

[desert gulch]

It's basically a R5 2600

Pretty damn close

[little osprey]

i like having the head room and some of the games that i play i can give more memory for it to use

[desert gulch]

You won't use that all that ram in games when you have a 2600 and 1660

[little osprey]

plus its cheap as well

so i might aswell

[desert gulch]

Use the money to get a better gpu

Instead of 32 gigs of ram

[vestal flare]

One sec @little osprey

[little osprey]

k

[vestal flare]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzWY4d

@little osprey

Are you in Australia

[little osprey]

yer

the prices here are bad thats why i went for the 1650

[vestal flare]

So the pricing is different than what im seeing rn huh

One sec lemme change my currency

How heavy are you looking to game @little osprey

[little osprey]

some what heavy

[desert gulch]

Do you already have a ryzen motherboard @little osprey

[little osprey]

no sadly im upgrading my build

from this build

[desert gulch]

Then 10400(f)/11400(f) and a b560 may be better

[calm dove]

You will buy a 1650 ?

[desert gulch]

Value and performance wise

[little osprey]

yer if i cant find anything better

[desert gulch]

If we build the list the right way I'm p sure you could squeeze a 2060 in there or something

[calm dove]

Imo the 1650 is bad

[vestal flare]

That explains the component selection. I do remember that places like canada and aus are bad with prices

I mean

I see nun wrong with it

If it can game

And you got a gpu

[still roost]

YoJAG#2238 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal flare]

F it

[little osprey]

its beats what im running now

[vestal flare]

Sorry

What do you have now

[little osprey]

i5 2500k

16 gb of ddr3

and a gtx 970

[vestal flare]

Ay you got a nice emulation machine in my eyes that baby is still good enough but yeah i get why you’re tryna upgrade tbh

[calm dove]

970 and 1650 have almost the same performance

[little osprey]

yer but the 970 has a 90m fan zip tied to it because the fan is broken 😆

[calm dove]

Rip

[vestal flare]

Ahh

[little osprey]

so its time to put it to rest

[still roost]

YoJAG#2238 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal flare]

Dang it

[little osprey]

because the cheapest rtx 2060 i can find is

is 849.00

[desert gulch]

Check r/hardwareswap

They have one in your area I believe

Sometimes you can snag a gpu for a decent price

[calm dove]

Just wait

[vestal flare]

Wow

A 1660 is near 1000

In aus

[little osprey]

yep its bad

[vestal flare]

In usd its 620 some

The lowest 1650 in usd is $210

[little osprey]

yer because we have a fair amount of places that brought cards for mining

[vestal flare]

Ah thats some stuff

[little osprey]

so thats why i went for those parts\

[trail sundial]

The gtx 980 is around that price but has more performance than the 970 and 1650

Goes for a good price to performance in the current market

[little osprey]

yer its been a while since upgrading my rig they dont make my keyboard now lol

would that build list be able to have windows 11 installed later on

[stable tinsel]

@fossil cedar thanks he took ur advice

[little osprey]

hihi

could someone give me a list of what I should buy

I’m gonna buy a gtx 1660 ti

so I’m wondering what I should buy with it

I want a amd cpu with it

also my budget it 1.5k

is*

also my theme is all white

[stoic island]

uh

[stoic island]

how badly do you want everything to be white?

[little osprey]

ehh

f

hmm

kinda everything

[stoic island]

what

[little osprey]

Idk

all white gaming pc basically

[stoic island]

do you already have a 1660ti?

[little osprey]

no

[stoic island]

I'd try to at least get 3060 considering the budget

[little osprey]

.

3060?

[stoic island]

@little ospreyeverything except for GPU for 750$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLmf68

that's way overpriced btw

[little osprey]

oh

[little osprey]

ah

[stoic island]

this was in the shuffle earlier today for example

[little osprey]

Holy

Bruh I need to save up money quick

[stoic island]

wat

[little osprey]

Idk

but yea

[little osprey]

so this

and the 3060 ti

[stoic island]

If you're not buying it now, things can change

[little osprey]

crap

I’m buying it later

In like 6 or 4 months

[stoic island]

Come back for another list when you get closer to buying it then

[little osprey]

alright.

[stoic island]

in that amount of time, a lot of things will change

[little osprey]

alr

[stoic island]

we're expecting zen 3d/4 to come out in the next couple of months

[little osprey]

okay tysm

also

I’d prefer a amd cpu than intel idk why

amd seems better

but

I’ll check up later

[stoic island]

Might as well wait for zen 3d to come out if you're waiting half a year

[little osprey]

ye

[stoic island]

and hope AMD has something good for the value end this time around

[little osprey]

Yep

Alright time to wait

meanwhile

get my grades up

and have a glow up

6 months isnt that long

right

31x6

186 days

rip

alr ima stop spamming ig byebye

[rugged sparrow]

yo is this good for around a $1500 pc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Xc6TJ

with a 3060 ti FE

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

The cooler, ram and psu is problem points

You're payin too much lel, lemme fix

[rugged sparrow]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

Better case for cheaper too

[stoic island]

its a start, I'll let foxy do their thing with list

[vague oracle]

Don’t forget the mobo

Asrock Intel boards

[floral ore]

ok so

[zealous edge]

Ok

Which headphones?

[floral ore]

They some beats

[zealous edge]

Ok well that happens with my beats too.

Solo3 I'm guessing?

[floral ore]

Idk lemme check

[zealous edge]

Ok

Are they plugged in all the way?

[floral ore]

solo2

[zealous edge]

Ok.

[floral ore]

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

@rugged sparrow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/chQ3qp

[zealous edge]

Do younhave speakers?

[obsidian wigeon]

For windows, I say just get some ebay keys or something

[zealous edge]

Is your game sounds fully turned on?

[floral ore]

no

I think

[obsidian wigeon]

Don't need to pay 100 for windows

[rugged sparrow]

ok

is the 3060 ti FE still good if i buy it for around 400

[obsidian wigeon]

I dunno which sites to get it from, gotta research lel

[zealous edge]

For sure lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Also yes

[zealous edge]

Much cheaper.

[floral ore]

The jack is maybe 1 degree bent but I still get other aufio

[obsidian wigeon]

That's pretty much msrp

[zealous edge]

Also not allowed to recommend here btw.

[rugged sparrow]

ok ty @obsidian wigeon

[obsidian wigeon]

That's why I said do your own research

[zealous edge]

Yeap.

[zealous edge]

Alright.

Well take the headphones out.

Completely unplug them.

[floral ore]

Done

[zealous edge]

Close minecraft.

[floral ore]

done

[zealous edge]

Plug the headphones in.

All the way in.

[floral ore]

ok and load mc?

[zealous edge]

Select headphones on the bottom right .

Click the speaker

And select yoyr headphones.

[floral ore]

"Headphones" high quality device or smth

[zealous edge]

It will probably say Realtek audio or something

Yea

[floral ore]

load mc

now?

[zealous edge]

Yes load it.

[floral ore]

I love you

[zealous edge]

Works?

[floral ore]

ya lol

[zealous edge]

Nice

Glad to hear that

Have a good night.

[floral ore]

You too mate

[idle igloo]

Hello! I'm looking for some advice on what to buy. Either mac or pc, which is better for accessibility and school work? I've grown up with Mac, but I'm leaning towards PC for the customization and access to more apps that can perhaps provide more accessibility stuff.

[little osprey]

pc is better and cheaper for schoolwork “mainly accessing more apps”

if u want a pc for mainly studying, etc u came to the right place

I suppose

I’m just a regular ;-;

[little osprey]

and for gaming of course

[zealous edge]

What are you specifically look for? A Desktop or a laptop?

[little osprey]

this is the guy @idle igloo

[idle igloo]

lol fair enough. Also if anyone has recommendations for text to speech voices that isn't Cortana and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

lol well hello! I am looking for a laptop

[little osprey]

oh laptop

ok ok eternal can help u

[zealous edge]

Any specific things you want to get out of the laptop?

Video editing?

Gamig

[idle igloo]

My wife wants me to get a desktop for gaming lmao I keep trying to tell her it's for school work and I cannot carry a desktop to school

[zealous edge]

Haha

[little osprey]

There are gaming laptops

Haha

But yeah

[zealous edge]

Well it depends on your needs if I'm being honest

You can always get a cheaper laptop

And a more expensive desktop.

[idle igloo]

Yes, but limited video editing, gaming is like, 6/10 important atm, I am quite happy with my consoles lol

[little osprey]

this is what you’re looking for then

[zealous edge]

What is your price range however?

[idle igloo]

I also need the RAM tho, I run a lot of apps at once all of the time. Price range is $1000 - $2000

[little osprey]

WHAT THE

wait I read wrong

i read 10k-20k

[still roost]

RhysPug007#5640 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

uh

why cuss

[idle igloo]

Oh, I gave Jeff Bezos a bad nickname

I referred to his space rocket

[little osprey]

oh lol

spacex

.

space x

.

[little osprey]

his budget is 1k-2k

[zealous edge]

How much ram is a lot for you?

Are you compiling code?

[idle igloo]

I am not compiling code no, but I do run heavy apps at once, Chrome, music, and video editing or photoshop

[zealous edge]

Ah ok

[idle igloo]

what kind of ram should I look for?

[zealous edge]

Well this would honestly be personal preference, either a mac or a windows device should be alright.

Let me look around for some options for you.

[idle igloo]

oh, why thank you, I really appreciate that!

[zealous edge]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000A-0K4R4

[idle igloo]

I am also worried about virus/bugs (I sail the open seas on occasion), but I've been told there are a lot of free options and it isn't so bad for PC as it once was?

[zealous edge]

As long as you don't download obviously malicious software, shouldn't be a problem.

Windows defender had gotten significantly better and better over the years.

If you really want some more protection I would look into Malwarebytes or even Bitdefender

[idle igloo]

oh that's awesome to know, thank you. And yeah, I am pretty good at telling the difference, but sometimes I pull a dumb

okay, so this DDR4 is the ram I should be looking for?

Also also - what is the little nubby/mini-joystick thing in the middle of my keyboard, I do not understand. Is it for gaming???

or no, the 32GB refers to the ram... I got there lol

[zealous edge]

Yes the 32 GB refers to the amount of RAM the machine has.

[idle igloo]

right right lol

[zealous edge]

Well this is one option.

Again, personal preference.

[idle igloo]

so is there really a difference between the companies? like Dell v. asus, etc

[obsidian wigeon]

The nub acts as a mouse

It's got nothing to do with gaming

[idle igloo]

huh. alright then lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Well, you mentioned a nub-

Is it a laptop?

[idle igloo]

yeah lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Which laptop is it?

I can suggest you the correct ram if I know the rest

[idle igloo]

dell uh.. something. I'm pretty sure this is Windows 8?

[obsidian wigeon]

Whelp, how about you give me info about its specs, then?

[idle igloo]

oh it is windows 10! huzzah! I have found the about page lol I'm on a library computer, so

I wanted to try and get used to PC before I spent money on a newer model

intel i5 and 8gb ram

[obsidian wigeon]

That's pretty vague

[idle igloo]

thank you so much for your help, man, I really appreciate it!

[obsidian wigeon]

I suggest bringing up device manager

And show me info about the cpu and ram, also gpu

[idle igloo]

I can't, it's a public computer and I'm not the admin

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

So you don't even have your own stuff at your disposal rn? lol

[idle igloo]

nope lol

besides, I'm here looking for advice on a new laptop, not the one I have right now

[obsidian wigeon]

Aight

Gimme your budget and use case then

I can suggest as a guideline

[idle igloo]

budget - $1000 - $2000 CAD, Use - generally a lot of apps at once, like chrome, music, video editing or photoshop at once.

Also, what is the difference between all the companies? Like Dell, asus, msi, etc

[obsidian wigeon]

Model over brand is the motto to go with

Every brands does make bad laptops here and there

So, is battery life a must?

That budget allows you with many good options for basically any needs

[idle igloo]

yes, battery life for sure (though I'm fine with give or take 6-8 hours)

[obsidian wigeon]

Gimme a moment

A good while actually, gonna compare prices between retails lol

[idle igloo]

oh, well thank you so much! I really appreciate the work!

🎵 whaaaat is with the off-centre trackpad! 🎵

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_1925_1920_1923&item_id=200981

A bit over budget

But you get 3070

Much better than 3060

Tho this thing is not thin or light by any means

But it offers everything for you just fine

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-grey-amd-ryzen-9-5900hs-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-rtx-3060-win-10/15264488

This one's lighter and thinner, but of course less gpu power

Up to ya on either

@idle igloo forgot to ping lol, but take a look

[idle igloo]

oh okay, thank you!

and thank you for looking specifically at canadian sites lol

[obsidian wigeon]

It's np

[idle igloo]

okay, so you think about 16+GB of ram is pretty good?

*for what I need

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah

It'll be okay

I suggest add more but it's optional

[idle igloo]

oh okay, cool cool. And ram is something I update/change in a pc whenever, right?

*provided I buy the parts

[obsidian wigeon]

Yah

You should look at like DDR4 so-dimm, 3200mhz specifically

[idle igloo]

kay, and would changing the ram effect the storage capacity?

[obsidian wigeon]

And 16 gb stick

Nope

It's just more ram for more freedom with the stuff you do

Storage will remain the same

[idle igloo]

oh okay, cool, thank you for the suggested specs, that will help a lot

[little osprey]

I just fixed an X58 system for my college

[obsidian wigeon]

noice

[idle igloo]

yeah well done

[little osprey]

The hard drive is mega dead though

Did take long to figure out the issue

Didnt*

[obsidian wigeon]

Anyhow, taking apart those laptops shouldn't be too hard for ram upgrade

Just be delicate about it when you eventually decide on it

[idle igloo]

yeah, okay. Well thank you so much for your help!! I really appreciate it!

[obsidian wigeon]

Come back to me if ya need more help in the future

[idle igloo]

Will do!

[rapid radish]

I don't really text here much but I figured anyone here's willing to talk tech! After struggling on day one I've got a 12900kf and xpg lancer ddr5 5200mhz already on pre order!

Gonna be uploading my userbenchmark if anyone is curious

[viral ore]

sheeesh ok moneybags

also UB?

🤢

🤮

use passmark or something reasonable

[rapid radish]

Please I'm using freetime not like I'm trying to get it's every bench up😂

[viral ore]

nah it aint that, userbenchmark is literally

the worst

just

pretend it doesnt exist

[potent portal]

Biased garbage

Time spy is a better indicator, there's a free demo version on steam

[viral ore]

passmark has a good overall system performance indicator tho

if thats more what youre looking for

[rapid radish]

Oh goodness

[viral ore]

https://www.passmark.com/products/performancetest/index.php +15 social credit
https://www.userbenchmark.com/Software -115000000 social credit

basically

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

[rapid radish]

Well hey its not much work so I'll do it so everyone can get their educated opinion since it was awful trying to get my hands on these retail

One moment the 12900kf is $670 the next hour the 12900k is $1600

I wasn't gonna buy 12th gen just to get a ddr4 board so it was an all or nothing choice

I'm an intel over amd guy and I've been running my poor pcie 4 gpu and nvme at gen 3 speeds so it's time to give everything a boost

[potent portal]

Gen 3 vs gen 4 isn't a big difference for a gpu (or any in most cases), and a lot of gen 4 nvme drives are worse than good, cheaper gen 3 models

[rapid radish]

I'm thinking my wd sn850 should give quite a big difference

Real world an sn850 can get up to about 6900Mbps over the sn750s 3400MBps now sure games won't use that much speed but it still fully works

I mean next thing I'm gonna hear is someone saying cheap dram cacheless inland ssds are the best

[obsidian wigeon]

Sequential speed isn't everything

Heck in games random speed is where it matters the most

[rapid radish]

Now if only optane was affordable but unfortunately reports show a big hit from intel internally even with the lowest latency and highest 4k randoms its just not feasible

Great in concept but just like itaniums it'll only be in special use cases

[obsidian wigeon]

You don't need an optane to say that lel

[rapid radish]

You got that 100%

Well still gonna upload my 12th gen results when I can so anyone who wants can see how it performs first before buying

Praise Amazon's "secret" not front page results from related items and b&h photos pay up front reservations

[obsidian wigeon]

Seems it's better than 5950x in all ways at least

[rapid radish]

As an intel fan that makes me excited and I really hope it's not topped by 3d v-cache

[obsidian wigeon]

It likely will be topped by that refresh from amd tbh

At least ADL as a whole is doing decent, better than many has expected

[rapid radish]

And thats my other preference I'm pretty opposite from meta because on terms of ADL amds gpus are a definite favorite

And the fact there's a opengpu translation for Cuda now could change things up in the future

I really want amd to get an edge on nvidia

[potent portal]

I'm not so sure. Early reports said the 3d cache offered up to 15% improvements, but seemed closer to half that on average. I think it'll come down to specific games and workloads.

[frank stirrup]

Falcie btw zen 3 refresh isnt only stacked cache

[potent portal]

True but they have a lot of ground to gain back

[frank stirrup]

Not a lot

All the testing ive seen so far has been with pbo off

[potent portal]

Yeah but if you let one processor run up the power bill you have to let all the others do it too. Granted, due to heat 12th gen isn't overclocking too well yet.

[frank stirrup]

Yeah and newer k intel skews have their auto oc feature turned on by default on z boards

Pbo isnt on by default

[potent portal]

Most benchmarks I looked at today said they either disabled that or have separate results

[covert vapor]

GN didn't yeah? That is why their power consumption benchmark had the 12900k so high innit?

[potent portal]

I'm too tired to rewatch them all so I'll check again in the morning. I think GN didn't but Jay did.

[humble fossil]

Hello

support ?

..

[frank stirrup]

Chairs offer good support

Especially office chairs

Gaming chairs dont have good back support

Ur welcome

[humble fossil]

hi How warranty if I will collect pieces

[flint sapphire]

[obsidian wigeon]

engrish

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-yes-yes-yes-oh-fo-sho-for-sure-nods-gif-12018369

[fossil cedar]

Glad to help

[keen fractal]

My pc turns itself on when I turn on the button. It turns itself on without having to press the power button

[humble fossil]

??

[fossil cedar]

What ?

[fossil cedar]

This is not customer support but if you have a tech problem we can help, customer support would be messaging @fresh garden

[humble fossil]

I am an Arab and I do not know much but I want no more than warranty @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

You want to return you item under warranty?

[spice prairie]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

That should be fine, is your pump at 100%?

[spice prairie]

Yup

Temps were completely fine once i took off 2 panels

[fossil cedar]

Kinda ruins the whole point lol, what does your fan curve look like btw?

[spice prairie]

Its on an aio pump header and apparently its at 100% in the bios but there’s def a curve

[fossil cedar]

Can you send a pic of it?

[humble fossil]

I want to learn more about ensuring the pieces

[fossil cedar]

Right, well your items will come with a warranty anyway, which will cover it if it breaks /is damaged within a certain amount of time that wasn't done by you, insurance on computers isn't really a thing

[keen fractal]

What is this light

[humble fossil]

Just add insurance, better?

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like power status light

[frank stirrup]

Not needed

[fossil cedar]

1 not needed, 2 if you're talking about extended warranties they're just taking your money 95% of the time, they usually just offer nothing that they don't already offer for free

[humble fossil]

@frank stirrup @fossil cedar Thanks for everything and sorry if you bother you

[frank stirrup]

No problem

[fossil cedar]

No bother at all, happy to help

[humble fossil]

@frank stirrup @fossil cedar. have a nice day

[frank stirrup]

Same to you

[fossil cedar]

You too

[little osprey]

Any good air flow white case Recommendations 🤔

Looking for mid tower case

[mossy venture]

WhY nOt GeT tHe h510

(Don't actually)

[little osprey]

Currently have cooler master dt500 but moving to new build to 12th gen

[mossy venture]

Why not wait for better timings on ddr5?

Also I think there's a white version of the 4000x but I could be wrong

[little osprey]

Umm got white strix 3090 and have 10700k so need to upgrade lol

[mossy venture]

What resolution?

[little osprey]

2k gaming , CAD working and stuff

[mossy venture]

For 1440p that isn't that bad of a combo, of I was you I'd wait for better ddr5 timings but it's your choice

[little osprey]

I mean 10700k is still good but idk were waiting for 12th gen to upgrade

[mossy venture]

Seeing as 9700k is enough for a 3080 ti at 1440p 10700k is fine for a 3090

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't think you really need to hop up

ddr5 is expensive rn

[mossy venture]

10700k is similar to a 5800x right?

[little osprey]

I ordered cheap crucial ram and rgb heatsink on it for now

[mossy venture]

:p

[little osprey]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

10700k isn't that similar to 5800x tbh

[mossy venture]

Really?

[obsidian wigeon]

its mc is like 5600x

[little osprey]

Ill upgrade it to better ram when theres good one

[mossy venture]

Oh right 10700k is similar to 11600k

Mb

[obsidian wigeon]

not that great

[mossy venture]

How much did the ram cost you

[little osprey]

215$ for 32gb

[obsidian wigeon]

but ddr5 is still the most expensive point

apart from mobo

[little osprey]

350for mobo

650for 12900k

[mossy venture]

Eh, I mean not the worst but you'll have to spend close to that again for new ram

WHAT

350??

What motherboard

[little osprey]

Rog strix z690

[mossy venture]

:p

[obsidian wigeon]

Is it ddr4 one?

[little osprey]

No its ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

If so you're limited by the ram

Ah

[mossy venture]

I was thinking about getting a 12600k but A I'm broke B I don't need the upgrade C prices going to drop

[obsidian wigeon]

Cause it's 300 or so for 4800mhz kit atm

[little osprey]

I love rog strix idk lol

[obsidian wigeon]

32 gigs

4800mhz ddr5 that is

[mossy venture]

I'm waiting to see what happens to 5000 series prices

[fossil cedar]

P400a, p500a, 4000d airflow, td500 mesh(although not good value anymore)

[little osprey]

I got 32gb for 215 +20$ for rgb heatsink lol

[obsidian wigeon]

AMD recently dumped 5900x's price iirc

[mossy venture]

Ah it's the 4000d I was thinking of

Not x

[obsidian wigeon]

Wait is that $215 ram ddr5?

[little osprey]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

What speed?

[little osprey]

4800mhz

[mossy venture]

What heatsink

[obsidian wigeon]

Nice

[mossy venture]

I doubt it'll be enough to cool a 12900k

[obsidian wigeon]

What's the kit exactly?

heatsink for ram, I think

[mossy venture]

Ohh

That makes more sense lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

idk how 12900K performs with existing coolers atm

[mossy venture]

20$ heatsink for a 650$ cpu lmao

That'd hurt

[obsidian wigeon]

Like liquid freezer II

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09338PSRB/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_6FB584S25DH55VNGZ7KB

[obsidian wigeon]

Cause different mounting bracket

And different socket

[mossy venture]

Someone supposedly hit 8ghz on a 12900k but I don't believe that yet

I know 6.8 was done

[obsidian wigeon]

It is real

I checked on cpu-z

[mossy venture]

Really? Holy sh**

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[little osprey]

Asus still not sending me bracket for my aio

[mossy venture]

It's also insane that 12600k beats 5900x in single core

[obsidian wigeon]

Wait did you get a ryujin aio?

[little osprey]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

[little osprey]

Lc360

[mossy venture]

And barely loses in multi core

[fossil cedar]

Not really

[mossy venture]

Was what I was seeing yesterday wrong then?

[obsidian wigeon]

12400 has no e-cores tho :(

6c/12t

[little osprey]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Only p-cores

[mossy venture]

Yeah 12600kf will be the cheapest cpu with them

12500 won't I dont think

[little osprey]

11400 was very good value tho . Probably 12400 will be too

[fossil cedar]

Well i meant more it's not hugely impressive as the 5600x beat the 10900k and 11900k in many situations in games too

And 5600x is a year old

[mossy venture]

The bench I was looking at yesterday has nkw changed

It showed 12600k as only 5% worse in multi core

Now it's 20%worse lmao

[fossil cedar]

12600k is good at multi core but in most instances the 6 extra p cores vs 4 e cores is an easy enough win

[mossy venture]

So the e cores will run smaller tasks, right?

Or are they just to save power while doing low usage tasks

[little osprey]

Yeah they taking easy tasks

[obsidian wigeon]

Tho the e-cores are strong

[mossy venture]

So like if I'm gaming with discord and chrome open the e cores take those?

[obsidian wigeon]

They're like rocket lake perf

[mossy venture]

Wow

[little osprey]

And power cores kinda sleeping while not needed

[mossy venture]

Mm

[obsidian wigeon]

They're atom cores

[mossy venture]

I probably won't be upgrading for s few years anyways

[obsidian wigeon]

Like newest atoms

[mossy venture]

Only play val and mc rn

So no point whatsoever

[little osprey]

While gaming and heavy work , e cores still getting easy works like discord and chrome ets and keeping it away from power cores

[obsidian wigeon]

For older games just assign em to e-cores kek

And boom, efficiency

[little osprey]

Lol

[mossy venture]

Wait you can assign them?

How?

[obsidian wigeon]

Core affinity

[mossy venture]

That's sick

[obsidian wigeon]

Like literal task manager stuff

[mossy venture]

I figured they'd just decide what to do

[obsidian wigeon]

Just assign it to the e-core

But with win 11

[mossy venture]

That's sick af

[obsidian wigeon]

It should figure itself somewhat

[little osprey]

Wow i didn't know that either lol

Win 11 optimizing for 12th gen

[obsidian wigeon]

Tho apps definitely needs to optimize for it to abuse its full potential

[mossy venture]

I wonder if amd will have anything like e cores

[obsidian wigeon]

Not even in zen 4

[mossy venture]

Also interested to see the 5000 series refresh

[obsidian wigeon]

It's.. gonna take em a huge while before they start doing that ADL stuff

[mossy venture]

A cpu that may or may not beat 12900k that can run on a b550?

Pog

[little osprey]

Amd will catch it next year probably

[mossy venture]

Very pog

Since the benches I saw were wrong

How's 12900k vs 5950x?

[little osprey]

Probably pretty similar

[rugged sparrow]

Is the Ryzen 7 5800x better than an i7 10700k?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[little osprey]

Lil bit yeah

[mossy venture]

5800x also very hot

Has to be water cooled or have a very expensive heatsink

[rugged sparrow]

Hmm

[mossy venture]

What gpu you got?

And what's the point of the pc?

[rugged sparrow]

Gaming

I was thinking of the 3060 Ti FE

[mossy venture]

5600x or 11600k would be fine

5800x overkill for a 3060 ti

[rugged sparrow]

Ok

I’ll prob buy the pc when the 3060 Ti Fe comes back in stock

If I can get one in time

[mossy venture]

Good luck

[little osprey]

10700k is nice for gaming too but its probably discontinued

Since 12th gen came

[mossy venture]

Yep

Can be found used tho

[little osprey]

I got mine for 250$ on sale but its over 300 now lol

[fossil cedar]

Good luck, fe cards are rare cuz they're the only ones at msrp and only done by best buy(for us idk bout other countries) honestly aim for any 3060 ti/3070

[rugged sparrow]

What 3060 ti/3070 should I be looking for as well

[mossy venture]

Any model other than ventus

Ventus 3x isn't awful

Any other ventus sucks

[rugged sparrow]

Do you know how often they restock on Gpus or is it random

[stoic island]

mostly random

[fossil cedar]

Also there's this like it really does depend, like it does sometimes but in a real pure fps bench like csgo it doesn't

[mossy venture]

Yeah what I saw was wrong

[rugged sparrow]

Hmm just missed the 3060 Ti FE

As soon as I get a call and answer they go back in stock

[mossy venture]

F

[rugged sparrow]

Guess I got to wait another week or so

[fossil cedar]

check pins in #graphics-cards

[round thistle]

So I'm in the process of getting parts to build a ~$2300-ish Flight Sim rig. But I'm stumped, AIO or Air Cooled. Figured there's a lot more smarter people here than me so 😋

Got a case already, H710i

[fossil cedar]

oh god

that case is an oven my guy :/

[fossil cedar]

whats your country and what else have you already bought?

[round thistle]

I know I know, its 😬 but I'm planning on a front cover mod for it to get better airflow for that side in the very least

[fossil cedar]

youd be better off just returning it tbh

and then youd save money too

[round thistle]

US, and not a ton, I am shooting for the 5800x, have seen nothing but good news about it

[zealous edge]

Why not just get another case?

Like a corsair 5000d

[fossil cedar]

Can you tell me what else you've purchased so i can figure out what else you can put in, also i highly recommend returning and getting a better case

5000d is meh

[zealous edge]

It's decent

I mean still better then a h710i

[lucid minnow]

What is the intel equivalent to the 7 5800x?

[obsidian wigeon]

12700K

Actually better but whatever

11700K can't match 5800X lol

[zealous edge]

Lol

[lucid minnow]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

Meh, the 4000x or 5000x are better options unless they add a good bit of fans

@round thistle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R6XL68 I'd personally do this and return the h510i, there's a white version of p400a and p400a doesn't show its mesh too much

[zealous edge]

True true

[brittle copper]

The 11700K

[brittle copper]

This is incorrect

[fossil cedar]

no, its correct, 5800x leads ahead of the 11700k

[desert gulch]

And you also save money since you don't need a expensive chipset to oc s 5800x

[brittle copper]

In what? price?

I tested them both in PBO and a requisite overclock

both are equivalent in gaming at stock but the 5800x is marginally better in applications also at stock

[desert gulch]

Pbo with a 11700k?

Uhhhh

[brittle copper]

in PBO with with a 5800X and all core turbo boost oc with 11700k

[brittle copper]

requisite overclock

keyword is requisite

[desert gulch]

Pbo is a amd specific term

[brittle copper]

requiste means the equal pertaining parameter to the auxiliary party

with the 11700k being the auxiliary party

anyways'

[desert gulch]

Still doesn't quite translate but aight

[brittle copper]

under their pertaining OC conditions

[desert gulch]

What cooler did you have on the 5800x?

[brittle copper]

with 5800X with pbo2+Auto OC

[brittle copper]

arctic liquid freezer 420

[void canyon]

@desert gulch

[brittle copper]

and with the 11700K at its turbo boost clock all core

the 11700k was marginally faster than the 5800X in gaming

[desert gulch]

You run any benches or nah?

[brittle copper]

and equivalent in applications '

[desert gulch]

Geekbench, 3dmark

Any of that?

Actually 3dmark ig is better for gpu stuff

But still

[brittle copper]

3DMARK? really?

[desert gulch]

Yeah I was thinking of GPU for some reason lol

Try blender renders

Any of that stuff?

W10 I'm assuming also

[brittle copper]

yeha windows 10

tested Cinebench R23 , V-ray, R20,

[desert gulch]

Got any metrics on it or just observation?

[brittle copper]

Korona

[desert gulch]

Prime95 or Geekbench too?

[fossil cedar]

Price and performance

[brittle copper]

yes i tested geekbench 5.3.1

[desert gulch]

How much different did they compare

[brittle copper]

on my notepad

stock multicores were

[fossil cedar]

3dmark good for gaming performance comparisons yeah

[brittle copper]

11,059 for 5800x and 10983 for 11700k

[desert gulch]

Yeah it's a more real world thing, not too great for CPU tho

[fossil cedar]

Also what ram where you using?

[brittle copper]

OC multicores were 11538 for 11700k and 11,189 for 5800X

[desert gulch]

Try manual oc at all or just auto oc by the bios?

[brittle copper]

T force XTREEM ARGB 2x16 3600 C14

[desert gulch]

1800fclk I'm guessing for that 5800x?

For that 1 to 1 ratio

For best perf

[brittle copper]

Nah I overcocked it to 3800 C14, its a b die

1900 FCLK

[desert gulch]

Oh ok

Yeah that's good then

You ran occt and tm5 on that ram to verify stability?

[brittle copper]

yeah I was able to get it stable down to 14 14 14 14 32

any lower timings will not pass

[desert gulch]

What configs did you run on both occt and tm5?

[brittle copper]

I did avx for occt

did not run tm5

[desert gulch]

Hmm ok

Offset mount on the lf2 with that 5800x?

[brittle copper]

i did run memtest tho

[brittle copper]

oh yeah of course

[desert gulch]

Good

Yeah those chips are so damn close in perf it's difficult

[brittle copper]

I dont know why gamer nexus calls it an offset mount

when its the ONLY ryzen mount that came with the aio

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[brittle copper]

the only other mount was an x shaped intel mount

[desert gulch]

Prolly just offset compared to like a center mount for an Intel