building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

otherwise looks good

[icy thunder]

its sad

[earnest olive]

what timings?

hopefully not cl19

that's b-die, if you're willing to put in the time to tune it you can run cl13 or cl14 for sure

[icy thunder]

i have no idea how to tune it sadly

[earnest olive]

my kit is rated for 3600c16 and I daily them at 3800c14

[icy thunder]

also the timings are set to the presets

besides the 3600 part

[earnest olive]

oh yikes

yeah that's really low performance then

3600c20 if it's gdm on (probably is)

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

try it out

[icy thunder]

which of the memory testing software should i use

[earnest olive]

I recommend using both testmem5 and occt

[icy thunder]

both?

[earnest olive]

but I only run testmem5 between timing changes

run both for stability

I run the anta777 extreme1 config between timing changes

and anta x arshia config at the end

I gotta dip for now but you can hit up #overclocking if you need help

knowledgeable people there

[icy thunder]

okay, thank you

[earnest olive]

fal'cie and fitz know their way around a ram kit

[vale storm]

Yep, I figured out why

The side metals should be like

[frank stirrup]

Me?

:(

[vale storm]

) ( not like ( )

[earnest olive]

no you are noob

[frank stirrup]

wow

that hurts

thanks sippy

[earnest olive]

go run xmp noob

[frank stirrup]

good frend

:'(

[earnest olive]

bro

aida64 started working on my laptop

with the latest version

[frank stirrup]

106ns latency moment

[earnest olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732776155169685515/901937599961243688/Untitled.png

61.2

idk what's good for tiger lake

maybe I should get some rev. e sodimms lmao

3600c16 laptop pog

[frank stirrup]

or b die

[earnest olive]

I posted on r/intel asking about expected latency range on TIGER LAKE and idiots are just flexing their mediocre ocs on skylake derivatives

[frank stirrup]

imagine building 50 pcs and still not having b die on main rig

[earnest olive]

like ok man 39ns on a 9900K isn't that good lol

[frank stirrup]

LMFAO

share ur OC

on skylake

[earnest olive]

I got 40ns on a practically broken 8700K

at 3200MT/s

zz

[earnest olive]

rev. e would definitely beat b-die in a laptop

temperatures

[frank stirrup]

strap a fan

[earnest olive]

I like it when my laptop can close lol

[frank stirrup]

Hmm i wonder if you can adapt sodimm to dimm

[earnest olive]

you can

it's not a good idea

but you can

[stiff halo]

Does anyone have any good internal ssd recommendations for storage expansion?

[frank stirrup]

https://github.com/windshields/stoRAGE-consumer-SSD-buying-guide/blob/main/SSD tier list.md

[clever eagle]

stoRAGE
RAGEsto

[buoyant flare]

if my case has 6 fans, where should i put the cpu cooler?

[obsidian wigeon]

uh

on top of your cpu?

where else would it sit

unless you have an aio

[buoyant flare]

yeah i have a aio

[obsidian wigeon]

for an aio top mount is the best, but front is okay too as long as top of the rad is higher than the block

[buoyant flare]

okay i should probably remove the top fans then thank youu

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[real geyser]

b die sodimm when

can you modify subtimings?

sub50ns should be achieavble

[trail sundial]

Can a decent 5600X build be made with 750$ budget?

Excluding the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

eh nah

[mossy venture]

5600g time

[buoyant hatch]

yo can i build a pc for 1500 dollars with 3070 and a 5600x

just asking

[mossy venture]

At msrp maybe

[buoyant hatch]

ty

[trail sundial]

I’m going to pair a gtx 980 with the system and maybe upgrade at a later date

I have little use for an apu

[mossy venture]

Mmm

Give me a few min

I think it'd be possible

I dont have enough knowledge on psus or cases to give a full parts list

But throwing some parts together on pcp to get a general idea of how much it'd cost looks like you can do it

@trail sundial

Especially if you buy some parts on cyber monday

[trail sundial]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

Pato or rawr could prolly throw a parts list together for you

I dont feel comfortable giving advice like that

[fossil cedar]

750$ budget excluding gpu ez pz

[trail sundial]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qcLbW3

This is what I tried putting together

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt cheap out on an aio

I'd use id cooling se-224xt

Cheap aios are a sure way to break your system

[trail sundial]

Yeah, I don’t really know what I’m doing

[mossy venture]

One sec

[tough coral]

Lol

[mossy venture]

I'll take a look at your list

I'd do 3600-cl18 ram instead

Otherwise you'd have to oc it to get 3600mhz, which is ideal for ryzen

I've never seen that psu but I dont know much about them, so idk whether it's good or not

[trail sundial]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4fByvf

actually, what good mobos support the 5600x right out of the box?

I don't exactly have a 3rd gen ryzen sitting around if I needed to update the bios

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TzTjfP

[trail sundial]

looks awesome, would it be possible to switch that mobo with a full ATX one?

[obsidian wigeon]

atx one will cost more

[trail sundial]

yeah, I guess there isn't much reason, just seems weird to buy a mobo half the size

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[fossil cedar]

No point going over budget for bit of extra board you won't use, it's different if you'll need the pcie slots

[long rock]

Ight so my new setup overheated I think, it shut off while cranking away, but I was able to restart it, so idk what’s going on

[potent portal]

You can watch temps with an overlay while you're gaming and find out

[mossy venture]

Could also be pl tripped

[long rock]

Yeah I have the NZXT overlay and it doesn’t pop up while I’m running Fallout 4

[mossy venture]

What psu do you have and what cpu/gpu?

[potent portal]

If it was power then you'd probably have to flip psu off and on

[long rock]

So, a 600 Watt EVGA PSU, and then a new R5 5600X and an XFX RX580

[potent portal]

Nvidia overlay works well, AMD too

[mossy venture]

Ah

Shouldn't be an issue then

Idt anyways

[long rock]

I mean my case does have only 1 fan on it lol

[potent portal]

Yeesh

[mossy venture]

Ew

[long rock]

I am gonna try and order a new Phanteks P500A this week

[mossy venture]

What cpu cooler?

[long rock]

Stock Wraith cooler

[mossy venture]

Ah

Yeah that'd be your issue probably

I'd upgrade that

As well as case fans

[potent portal]

Which is fine for stock 5600X... As long as there's airflow

[mossy venture]

Fine doesn't equal good tho

[long rock]

Yeah I don’t really have any airflow lol

[mossy venture]

Even with good airflow you'd probably still see 90c

[long rock]

I am seeing like 87 max is what I think I’ve hit, 81-82 is more common while under load

[potent portal]

Oh and the only fan is exhaust

[long rock]

Yup

I don’t think this case was designed for upgrades lol

It came with a passively cooled GT710, and an FX6300

I bought the thing for 400 in 2018

[peak ginkgo]

Typically not and they're normally not great for air flow

[long rock]

I think a P500A should help keep it cool

And then like, a Noctuna cooler, but I wish they were black and not tan

[potent portal]

The prebuilt I had originally had 3 intake and 3 exhaust, 2 front, 1 side directly over gpu, 2 top, and 1 rear

[long rock]

Yeah this was not one of those lel

I have 1 exaust and that’s it lol

[potent portal]

Mine was made for a hot phenom and Radeon 5770 lol

[fossil cedar]

Fine also doesn't equal shutdown lol

[potent portal]

I wonder if I still have that phenom somewhere

[mossy venture]

I bought a pc with a 3470 and 1030 for 400 and it came with a monitor, keyboard and mouse in 2017...

[long rock]

I do have this up front which makes me wonder if I can put fans up there

[peak ginkgo]

A lot of prebuilts are like that, they're bad. Not all but a lot of them are bad

[long rock]

Yeah mine came with the keyboard and mouse too

[potent portal]

You can put fans there but what's the front panel look like?

[long rock]

It’s a big plastic cover

[potent portal]

If it's a solid front panel it's basically H510 level bad

[long rock]

It doesn’t even light up anymore

[potent portal]

Oh the msi, that was even worse than the h510

[long rock]

Dammit that’s blurry

This is IBuyPower lol

🙃

[potent portal]

Yeah all they do is swap the badge lol

[long rock]

Ooohh

So H500A should be a big upgrade then hopefully

[mossy venture]

Does that case come with fans?

[potent portal]

Is that the digital p500a or regular?

[mossy venture]

If not throw some artic p12s in there

[long rock]

Yeah the H500A comes fully equipped iirc

The digital with the RGB is what I want

[potent portal]

Good the digital has the 3 rgb front fans

[long rock]

I’m also looking at getting an SSD

[mossy venture]

You def should

I got a sata sk hynix recently for my partner to use as a boot ssd

I can grab a link if you want

[potent portal]

Most effective computer upgrade is ssd main drive

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07SK5BNM1?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[potent portal]

I saw 2tb mx500 for $160 recently

[mossy venture]

Only took us like four hours in total because I had to direct them on how to do it

And legacy was on instead of uefi or whatever in their bios

I forget exactly what

But it was painful

[potent portal]

CSM ew

[mossy venture]

Their hdd was dying tho

Mc would randomly crash

Disk would randomly run at 100

Apparently they had been turning their pc off via the power button

That might explain it kek

[long rock]

God lol

[mossy venture]

They don't really know anything about pcs

Which is why it took so long

Also forgot it didn't come with a sata cable

So had to wait another week

Then tried macrium reflect

That messed up after like 90min

So then they got a flash drive and that took another 90min

Fun times honestly

[long rock]

Wow

[potent portal]

Yeah reflect doesn't like dying drives

[mossy venture]

Yep

Question fal

If they plug the hdd back in, and it gets wiped completely

Will it be usable?

Or is the damage done

[potent portal]

I wouldn't trust it

[mossy venture]

Theyre gonna need more than 500gb eventually

Oof

Alr

[potent portal]

Check the smart data with Crystal disk info and you'll probably see some issues

[mossy venture]

Alr

[potent portal]

Probably a lot of unsafe unloads from the sound of it

[mossy venture]

They have some minecraft hard-core worlds backed up so they're gonna have to plug it back in anyways to get them off of it

[long rock]

I’ve also got all the prebuilt stuff that I took out when I upgraded, idk if anyone would want it lol

[mossy venture]

I mean the 710 could prolly go for like 20$ if you want lmao

[long rock]

Yeah

Lol

[mossy venture]

Cpu and mobo combo maybe 50 or so

Oh

What ram do you have?

Out of curiosity

[long rock]

16 gigs of GSkills Ripjaws 3600

[mossy venture]

Nice

I just realized smthn

I should check my sos mobo and ram to see if they can use xmp

All I know is it's gigabyte, but idk what mobo

[potent portal]

If it's amd then the answer is yes

[mossy venture]

Oh cool

It's a 3400g so yeah

[potent portal]

Even the lowest end amd boards can overclock

A320? Still good to go

[mossy venture]

I figured some like 320s or whatever the amd version of hx10 is would be locked

Cool thanks

I'd guess it's slow ram though

Cheap build

[long rock]

So, my old setup was pretty shit, the FX6300 served me well though ngl

8 gigs of 1600 DDR3

[potent portal]

Yeah fx wasn't as bad as some people say

[mossy venture]

I wouldn't know

[potent portal]

8300 was good to me up until I got a 1060

[long rock]

Yeah I was looking at those but they weren’t a substantial enough of an upgrade for me

[potent portal]

Considering my previous gpu was an ancient Radeon 5770 I'd call that pretty substantial

Oh no wait I had the r9 380 also

[long rock]

Yeah my GPU jump from GT710 to RX580 blew me away

[mossy venture]

I went from 1030 to 3060 ti

Worth it

[long rock]

holy shit, I can actually run modern titles now😂

I’ve only had my RX580 for a year but the 6000 series GPUs look really nice

[potent portal]

I was still behind when I had the 1060, it could run fallout 4 but over time it would get really hot and corrupt textures

[long rock]

Awesomeness

[tough coral]

Would this be a decent pc to run on ? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/n2Xh4d

[mossy venture]

Don't buy 3600 in 2021, 10400 is better value

Or 11400/500 assuming you can get them for msrp there

[tough coral]

Dw I bought it when It was cheaper

180 pounds

[mossy venture]

Thats... not cheaper

Msrp for that is 200 usd

[long rock]

Doesn’t look bad, I like my 5600X though

[mossy venture]

I'd do 16gb of mem, unless you already bought that too

It is 3600mhz though so that's good

[tough coral]

Whatever there is purchase I already got

[potent portal]

CV power supply

[mossy venture]

Bruh

Why ask if its good after buying it

The psu is less than par though

Everything else is bearable

[tough coral]

I got budget, I ain't Elon musk who has billions

[mossy venture]

My guy

[peak ginkgo]

CV PSU is bad

[mossy venture]

For your budget

It's a bad psu

Psu is the one thing you don't want to cheap out on

Having a bad psu can kill your entire system

[tough coral]

My friend what do u recommend?

[potent portal]

10 pounds more gets you a higher capacity psu that won't catch fire

[mossy venture]

Evga b5 650w bronze

[tough coral]

Is 500w good enough?

[mossy venture]

Wattage isn't all that matters

Some psus are bad poorly

The one you selected is one of them

The amount of ram you have is more than is necessary considering the gpu you have

I would've got 16gb 3600mhz cl18

[tough coral]

32gb is enough for me

[mossy venture]

16gb is enough for gaming

[tough coral]

Too many chrome tabs 🤣

[mossy venture]

Especially with a 1650s

[potent portal]

16gb is enough for me, and I'm AAA gaming while streaming on a discord call and 3 different browsers open to 30 tabs

[mossy venture]

I've only hit close to 16gb while playing warzone at max settings no rtx, while streaming, with discord and chrome open

[potent portal]

CoD is really badly optimized too, an anomaly

[tough coral]

So I just going to need to upgrade my psu?

[mossy venture]

Anyways, the only huge issue with your build is the psu

But the cpu is overpriced for 2021 and the ram is an oddity for your build

[tough coral]

Kk

How much is the 3600?

[mossy venture]

200 usd

10400 is a better buy

[tough coral]

oh kk

[mossy venture]

Slightly better and cheaper

But you'd need a different motherboard

[tough coral]

I mean my pc only works on amd

[mossy venture]

Why

What are you doing

[tough coral]

it's just the bad mobo

I have

[mossy venture]

But you're buying a new motherboard

So why does that matter

Ok let's start from scratch

[tough coral]

Kk

[mossy venture]

What parts have you already bought

And what's your budget

[tough coral]

Gpu, ram and cpu

320 at max

[mossy venture]

For the rest of it?

I mean those are the main parts I was going to change

So

Doesn't really matter I guess

Just get a different psu

[tough coral]

From this website?

[mossy venture]

That's just a site to compile a list

It doesnt actually sell parts

[tough coral]

I know that

[mossy venture]

The evga g5 650w bronze is good

[tough coral]

I'll note that

@mossy venture good?

[kindred wharf]

@tough coral What are you trying to run?

[desert gulch]

I don't think that exists

You mean b5 bronze?

Or g5 gold?

[tough coral]

I'm trying to improve my list

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ymnNRT

[mossy venture]

B5 yeah sorry

The psu here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TzTjfP

[kindred wharf]

You need a higher power supply

Which is what your looking for right?

[desert gulch]

Not in uk tho

[mossy venture]

The psu?

Or the list?

[desert gulch]

Just get a txm gold 650watt @tough coral

Both

[mossy venture]

Oof

[desert gulch]

Try it in uk

[tough coral]

amazon ^^

[mossy venture]

I'll trust intel on this one then kek

Most people here know more than I do about psus

[desert gulch]

Txm gold is good price and great psu

[tough coral]

I need to get 650 watts psu?

[mossy venture]

I mean it leaves room for ocing and future upgrades

[desert gulch]

I would

Yeah

[tough coral]

over clocking?

[desert gulch]

You could go for a 550 but for upgrades or whatever I'd just grab a 650

[tough coral]

i got a 600

[mossy venture]

Did you buy the psu that was on your list?

Please tell me you didnt

[tough coral]

uh no?

just planning it for next month

[mossy venture]

Ok good

[tough coral]

u mean theses?

[desert gulch]

Yeah I'd just grab that 650

Or go through Amazon here and get a b5 like bacca said

[tough coral]

Ok, I think I am done

[earnest olive]

yes

idk about 50ns on tgl though

[real geyser]

show asrtc

i believe

[earnest olive]

if this was skylake it would already be sub 50

asrtc no work

[real geyser]

sad!

hwinfo?

aida64 engineer?

[tough coral]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kJFY4d what do you guys think?

[real geyser]

65535 tREFI work?

[earnest olive]

nothing allows me to view more than primary timings in OS

no

even 40k no work

it's laptop

[real geyser]

hwinfo?

[earnest olive]

hot air being blown across ram

[real geyser]

aida64 engineer?

[earnest olive]

hwinfo allows me to see primaries and tRFC

[real geyser]

try aida64 engineer

do you need a key?

[earnest olive]

that's what I used to make sure my boot didn't fail while ocing

[real geyser]

engineer has the memory timing viewer

[earnest olive]

@real geyser my download speed here...

[stoic island]

Fun times

[trail sundial]

imagine downloading a game at that speed

the last few I've done have been 50-70GB

took me almost a day to get Destiny 2

[earnest olive]

it's still downloading lol

reminds me of 2006 when I'd set maplestory to patch overnight

@real geyser guess i downloaded it for nothing lol

[real geyser]

lmao

run as adim?

[earnest olive]

oh that worked

cool

why is my tRRDL at 8

huh

guess it automatically sets tRRDL to double tRRDS

[icy thunder]

What is some good cheap thermal paste

[desert gulch]

Mx4/mx5

[icy thunder]

so either one?

[potent portal]

Whichever is cheaper that you can get yeah

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[icy thunder]

thank you

[desert gulch]

Mx5 is basically mx4 but a lil more viscous

So a little more liquidy

[urban light]

How much is a Lian li pcmr mid atx worth

[fossil cedar]

Pcmr?

Like the subreddit?

[fossil cedar]

Thought mx5 was a bit more thic?

[urban light]

It a le case

[desert gulch]

Nah

[tough coral]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kJFY4d can someone rate if its good enough?

[frank stirrup]

trash case and no need for thermal paste

cooler comes with some

[tough coral]

mad

[tough coral]

what kind of companies do u recommend? [for the case]

[frank stirrup]

p400a digital

and no company makes only good cases

[tough coral]

same thing

[long rock]

Dammit. It shut down again

I think it’s my cooling

There is no way my stuff is getting enough air

It’s not even that warm tho

[tough coral]

oof

check for dust mate

[long rock]

I need to find a way to get an overlay in game

I have had the glass off several times today, it’s fine

[tough coral]

how about psu?

[long rock]

600 watts, more than enough for a RX580 and a 5600X

[tough coral]

what does your pc look like?

[long rock]

Only 1 fan and it’s exaust

I’m prolly gonna be buying a new case here soon

This pre built case is crud

[tough coral]

check below your pc

[potent portal]

You had amd right? Try alt+z

[long rock]

Yup

[potent portal]

Might need to enable the overlay if it doesn't work

[long rock]

Alright got the overlay up

Let’s see what we are dealing with here lol

This is just in loading screens

[potent portal]

GPU looks fine but cpu might be some trouble

[long rock]

Oh the voltage?

[worn wave]

@dapper fern Looks like something from ID Cooling possibly

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-234-ARGB-Cooler-Addressable-Heatpipes/dp/B084G3Y7KZ/

[potent portal]

It's low current in that pic so voltage is little issue

I'm more concerned about it being 60c using 25W

[long rock]

So it’s a temp issue?

[potent portal]

Well how does it look under full load?

[long rock]

This looks sorta full load

Ehh, I can prolly work it harder

[fossil cedar]

Use occt or aida64 or something to test temps for full load

[potent portal]

That's still a 25W load and over 67C, not a good sign

[long rock]

PSU isn’t efficienct enough maybe

[fossil cedar]

Nah psu is plenty

I ran my 3070 on a d tier 600w white psu for a bit until i could get a new one

Efficiency just has to do with the amount of power coming out of the wall it takes

[potent portal]

RX 580 doesn't use that much power

[frank stirrup]

150W or so right?

[potent portal]

Depends on model but yeah

[fossil cedar]

Something small enough like that

600w psu is plentyyy for it like

[frank stirrup]

No i need 750W for my 570

because yes

/s

[fossil cedar]

[icy thunder]

@earnest olive hey, is this going to be a problem?

The motherboard M.2 slot #2 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.

[potent portal]

Only if you want to use both M.2 slots and all 6 sata ports

[earnest olive]

^

[jagged ember]

^^

[clever eagle]

^^^

[covert vapor]

^^^^

[white osprey]

best monitor for 150 USD?!

send links pls!!!

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali570/p/N82E16883360205?

good pc for 1.2k usd budget?>

[potent portal]

Ehhh, not really

It would do I guess but there's usually better deals

[little osprey]

if you could send a couple that would be awesome 👍🏻

[little osprey]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5-amd-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-5800-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-raven-black/6457349.p?skuId=6457349

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5-amd-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-phantom-black/6424472.p?skuId=6424472

Are either of these good options or is 1k too much for 1660 super gpu?

[potent portal]

For 1k I'd hope for at least a 2060

[errant fiber]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-ga15dk-ds776/p/N82E16883221675?Item=N82E16883221675&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-221-675-_-10252021

for $1799 is this a good deal? i'm aware of the cooling issues, is it hard to fix the cooling issues at all?

[earnest olive]

put it in a new case lol

[errant fiber]

is it that bad LOL

[kind vortex]

very bad

1660 super is NOT GOOD FOR 1K

[errant fiber]

no i'm talking about this

but yes i agree

[dapper fern]

I see thank you I never heard of it before it’s my friends pc prebuilt from eBay I was setting it up for him

[earnest olive]

i mean... there's nothing that a chainsaw can't fix

[obsidian wigeon]

it's actually not too bad

but l o u d

i have that thing myself lol

but tbh

mine is 3600x

so much less heat

[little osprey]

Anyone can send pc under 1.2k for me ? Thx

I found one from Abs that’s meh

3000mhz ram 😐

[obsidian wigeon]

It's the best ya could get

Not too bad lol

[mild trout]

Anyone able to help me trouble shoot a mobo/PSU/cpu real quick

[hollow dove]

Avoid Best Buy rn in general. They've been downsizing every GPU in every PC they sell and usually don't drop the price to compensate either.

[little osprey]

Yeah im running out of options so i finally looked at best buy

gt 1030 gaming pcs 😮‍💨

[kind vortex]

dont buy a pre buildt

[little osprey]

Im not buying it

[kind vortex]

just buy a gt 1030 for 70$

but they are like 150 now

[little osprey]

Why would you say they are $70 then 🤣

No use stating prices that are nonexistent nowadays

[jagged ember]

terrible idea

buy a prebuilt just not from best buy

have you seen the market?

[clever eagle]

lol gt1050 ti is cheap

[little osprey]

??

Nah cap

[clever eagle]

here it is kinda cheap compared to everything else

[fossil cedar]

Right now this the best pc for 1.2k

[fossil cedar]

3000mhz to 3200mhz not a huge diff tbh

[tight sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbzXLu0sIk

[frank stirrup]

Yep not a big difference at all

Some 3200 ram actually worse than 3000 ram

[fossil cedar]

That's down to margin of error tho

[frank stirrup]

Nah

3200 is jdec

3000 is not

[fossil cedar]

Ohh they did jdec? I assumed they did xmp with manual speed

Just downclocking the xmp

[frank stirrup]

No they did timings

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[frank stirrup]

I thought you were talking about what i said

[fossil cedar]

I thought you were talking about in the video

[frank stirrup]

We stoopid

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

Currently writing a restart option to my windows scan and fix bat file

So you can restart directly at the end of the bat file if you want to

Since sfc needs reboot to fix stuffs

[fossil cedar]

Smort

[frank stirrup]

On on win 10 yeah?

[fossil cedar]

What

[frank stirrup]

U use win 10 right

Not win 11

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

Can you make sure this works on win 10 later on?

It should

I see no reason it wont

[fossil cedar]

Not home til tomorrow night

[frank stirrup]

But better someone tries before I edit pin

Ohh

Rip

[fossil cedar]

Aye

[frank stirrup]

Ill find someone else then

[fossil cedar]

😤

[frank stirrup]

No sad i still ly

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/simp-simping-yelling-meryl-streep-shouting-gif-17852144

[cosmic wraith]

[little osprey]

Damn okay

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-cpu-kill-gif-22236310

[mint vine]

😦

[little osprey]

there's more

wait nvm

thought i had another gif 😔

[languid nimbus]

pain

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-linus-ltt-crawling-human-linus-funny-gif-16353049

[cosmic wraith]

Aaaaaaughhhwjsnsnse that hurts me

[little osprey]

I made a video where I put thermal paste in an LGA 775 socket, spread the thermal paste around in the socket with a screwdriver, poured water into the socket, then put a cpu in lol

[mint vine]

💀😭

I’d like your thoughts on this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qctsz7

[little osprey]

yikes..what is this going to be used for

[mint vine]

It started as just me wanting a good gaming pc and ended up more as an enthusiast build money isn’t an issue😂🤷‍♀️

[fossil cedar]

Kindly... Oh god

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-magic-no-no-sabrina-tv-gif-14293457

@mint vine what's your budget

[mint vine]

There is no budget lol

[fossil cedar]

Okay

@mint vine rgb im guessing?

[mint vine]

Yeah lol

[fossil cedar]

Kk

[mint vine]

What you all use this for😂

[fossil cedar]

you want to stream btw?

[fossil cedar]

Wdym?

[mint vine]

Yeah I want to get into streaming and anything else I want to use this computer to it’s full potential

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough

White or black?

[mint vine]

Black and thank you😄

[fossil cedar]

Np

@mint vine this is what I'd do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tktsz7

[mint vine]

Interesting thank you again I like these part choices might just go with this instead it’s a bit more organized than mine😂

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome :)

[jagged ember]

or get prebuilt

abs

oh wait no budget nvm

[long rock]

I wouldn’t go pre built if you are tryna go all out

[stiff halo]

ABS new pc. Get this every time I boot up.

I don’t have a cd drive. How do I get rid?

[topaz kestrel]

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/2906376154330983593/

[fading oyster]

mannn

why even have a beast pc if this is my wifi

[viral ore]

ethernet cable time

[mossy venture]

Are you using a wifi card?

If you can't use ethernet use an internal and external wifi card together

Works great for me

[potent portal]

Or use powerline adapters

[fading oyster]

i have ethernet 😭

cat 8 or 9 i think

my wifi just sucks

[potent portal]

... I don't think cat 8 exists yet

[fading oyster]

whatever the highest ethernet is

i forgot

lemme check cable

no it's cat 8

[potent portal]

Huh, I guess it came out last year. That's cool, 40Gb connection

[rich egret]

anyway i can pre order graphic card on MRSP price 😐 ??

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

[rich egret]

dont say that, i need some hope here

[obsidian wigeon]

Truth hurts man

[potent portal]

You can try evga queue but people are waiting in that for a year before getting a gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[tame nexus]

Luck is the only thing that can help

[earnest olive]

isn't it like 3 years at this point

[potent portal]

It's only been a year so far so who knows for sure

[earnest olive]

I saw people saying that if you sign up today it says you'll probably get it in 2024

[potent portal]

If they're even making them until then lol

[vague oracle]

Powerline connections kill speeds. They brought me down from 1gbps to about 12mbps

[clever eagle]

Qh

[fossil cedar]

That's not right, probs faulty/old af one, mine brought my 120mbps down to 50-60ish

[vague oracle]

Nope it was just my house

It’s very hit or miss depending on the house’s wiring

[urban light]

Hey guys how much is the lian li pcmr edition worth

[fossil cedar]

I'm guessing it's an o11 dynamic?

No more than the original price for the size of o11 dynamic it is imo

[urban light]

Yea it was a limited edition

[little osprey]

Would rhis be where i could get some help building my bare bones computer?

[worn wave]

Right here

[little osprey]

Ok

Did you see what my question was in general

[fossil cedar]

Can you repost your question here?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but o11d is overpriced anyway sooo

[urban light]

Yea it is

[little osprey]

Looking for where a GDV connection would be on a B450 tomahawk max ll mother board would be

@urban light. ??

[fossil cedar]

Gdv?

[little osprey]

Yes....

[fossil cedar]

What do you mean by that?

[little osprey]

The connection is marked like that

[fossil cedar]

What are you trying to add to your pc?

[little osprey]

Building for bro....conection comes fom a small board that is part of the case

Shadow h3 arbg

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhh it's an rgb connector

[little osprey]

Looking for a 3 pin connector on the MB

[flint sapphire]

ive acquired a 2080ti

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuHOXBYKCgU this should do

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-frog-frog-pog-frog-dance-gif-20735320

[little osprey]

Thanx

[mossy venture]

Got a challenge for yall

Can any of you find this pre built?

[autumn wolf]

dont think those are continued anymore since theyre the old omen pc's

omen obelisk, newer model but at the same time not newer since like i said they stopped with those

[mossy venture]

They were bought last year by my school

Curious to see the specs

I know single channel 16gb and a 120mm aio but I wanna see what cpu and gpu

I'd guess 10700 or 10400 and 2060/70

[little osprey]

Does anyone know what this Errol means

Error

[mossy venture]

If it was in English maybe

[little osprey]

Its saying i need a usb Windows or dvd repair

[autumn wolf]

the picture i sent has a 2080ti in it but the one you sent might have something lower. not familiar with blower style cards in terms of looks

[mossy venture]

Yeah same lmao, thanks

[mossy venture]

The worst thing is all they're used for is league of legends and rocket league

The school got a grant for an esports team

Like 15k I think

Bought 10 of those pcs

And monitors that look pretty nice

[autumn wolf]

at least theyre being used for games. theres some schools out there that have gaming pc's or sleepers that are being used for normal Word and stuff

[mossy venture]

I think members of the team bring mouse and keyboard?

I dont see them out

Or they're just in a cabinet or smthn idfk

Holy hell

Theres a working wii in here

It's on

[autumn wolf]

id assume kids bring their own keyboard and mouse for preference

[mossy venture]

I figured they'd atleast have regular keyboard/mouse incase kids don't have their own

[autumn wolf]

plus itd be a bit more cost efficient for the school to have the kids bring their own peripherals instead of buying them

[mossy venture]

Yeah true

15k was probably used for the pcs and monitors alone

Since they're omen builds

I acquired keyboard and mouse

They were in a cabinet

Theyre 9700k 2070 super, 165hz 1080p monitors

High end af keyboard and mouse too

Both logitech, not sure on keeb model but g pro x super lighy

[autumn wolf]

sheeeesh

are they greasy?

[mossy venture]

Not at all

[autumn wolf]

be a shame if one went missing

[mossy venture]

Lmfao

Only the esports team has access to them for the most part

I only got access to it bc I know the teacher from last year, and she knows I'm a tech nerd

[mossy venture]

Oh also

It's a 120mm aio

[autumn wolf]

ye

[mossy venture]

Atleast it isn't leaky lmao

[autumn wolf]

they threw a 120mm aio in the 2080ti build, wouldnt expect them to throw in a 240 or 280 in the lower end model

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[lucid burrow]

halo

question

is the biostar h510m any good

[fossil cedar]

No

[lucid burrow]

D:

compared to like a h510m-pro

[mossy venture]

Biostar overall is awful

I would not reccomend their products

[lucid burrow]

no wonder its so cheap

well thank you for saving me from making a purchase i was gonna regret

[mossy venture]

Glad you asked

[fossil cedar]

Biostar bad and h510 bad, get a b560

[lucid burrow]

i want to but its out of my budget

[fossil cedar]

There's b560 boards cheaper than h510

[lucid burrow]

can you recommend me?

[fossil cedar]

I'd get this actually https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxGbt6/asrock-h570m-pro4-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-h570m-pro4

[lucid burrow]

they dont sell those here :')

i live in malaysia btw

[fossil cedar]

Ohhhhh

Any b560/h570 would be better than a h510 tbh

[mossy venture]

That isn't Biostar

[lucid burrow]

i see, thanks for the info :D

[void lantern]

Was going to use it as a dedicated pihole machine, but decided to make a proxmox vm for it

[little osprey]

@long rock Got cable management?

[little osprey]

12900k sold out in a second

[viral ore]

oh that went down?

thats cool

not that they sold out instantly, just that they released lol

[little osprey]

ampere launch moment

I want to upgrade my 10700k but waiting for 12900k

[mossy venture]

I'd wait to see the performance first lol

It's 10nm though finally

[little osprey]

I mean its little bit expensive than 11900k and probably will much better 🤔

[frank stirrup]

7

But intel calls it 10

[mossy venture]

Oh

Odd

[potent portal]

Intel and amd measure gate size differently, but yeah 10nm is long overdue

[fossil cedar]

10nm but intel calls it "intel 7"*

[little osprey]

marketing 🤡

[humble dagger]

hello i wanna build a $500 pc

[vague oracle]

To do what?

[humble dagger]

game

[mossy venture]

5600g time

[little osprey]

yoooo

chinese x99 time

im not bias at all

i promise

[vague oracle]

…a little more info would be nice, like what games, what resolution, etc

[little osprey]

he wants

to GAME.

so let the man

GAME.

[humble dagger]

1080p in valorant and minecraft

[mossy venture]

5000 series igpu will be fine then

[potent portal]

If you can find one

[mossy venture]

True

[humble dagger]

i want a gpu

[vague oracle]

Well that ain’t happening for $500

[potent portal]

That's not likely in this market

[little osprey]

yea it can

[potent portal]

Unless you buy something from 10 years ago

[little osprey]

im not joking when i said x79 or x99 platform

well, lga2011, and 2011v3

[vague oracle]

But it would probably be worse than a 5600g

[fossil cedar]

Imo get a console instead for that price

[vague oracle]

^

[little osprey]

we do not speak of such things

[fossil cedar]

5600g, no case cheapest board cheap af psu maybe

[vague oracle]

Chinese B550

[potent portal]

In all seriousness, xbox can run computer games now, and emulators and stuff

[mossy venture]

Yeah throwing one together rq I hit $600, thought it'd be less

[little osprey]

@humble dagger so would you consider a console or are you sure you want a PC?

[humble dagger]

i want a pc

[mossy venture]

Might have to increase budget or buy used

[little osprey]

yea i'd suggest 550 but 500 is still workable if you manage to find a good deal on a gpu

[mossy venture]

Disagree

Apu build

[humble dagger]

buy used

[potent portal]

Specifically said he wants a gpu

[mossy venture]

Bruh

[little osprey]

yea that is a route he could go for, but lga 2011 or 2011v3 works too

[humble dagger]

😐 bruh

[mossy venture]

Why do you want a dgpu

[little osprey]

what?

[vague oracle]

GT1030

[humble dagger]

for fps

[mossy venture]

My guy

[humble dagger]

old

[mossy venture]

5600g igpu is solid

[potent portal]

I was thinking more 760/950

[mossy venture]

It will run minecraft and valorant more than fine

[little osprey]

you know lga2011 and 2011v3 were the highest-end platforms of their time right? and they're not even that old

[vague oracle]

Vega 11 is about on par with an RX460 iirc

[humble dagger]

but what if i decide to play somet6hing else

[vague oracle]

Then you need to up your budget

[little osprey]

for reference, a 2678v3 competes with a 2700X in multi-core benchmarks

[mossy venture]

For your budget you won't get any decent gpu that can run much better than a 5600g igpu

[humble dagger]

"of their time" imo its not the best option

[little osprey]

to me it seems you're not familiar with the hardware of that platform

[mossy venture]

Come here asking for advice and then ignores half the advice we give

[vague oracle]

Out of curiosity if you know your best option why are you here asking for advice?

[little osprey]

ikr

[mossy venture]

A 5600g will be your best option. You can ads a gpu later on.

Otherwise we cannot help you without increasing your budget

500$ is barely enough for an apu build buying used

[humble dagger]

is there a pcp i can use

[potent portal]

Doesn't work well for used parts, which you'll need several of

[mossy venture]

Buying used there won't really be specific parts to go for, should just look around and ask about parts that you find

The one thing you do not want to cheap out on is power supply

[humble dagger]

whats a good one

[little osprey]

keep in mind a 5600g's actual GPU is slower than a GTX 1050

[potent portal]

To a point. If just using igpu c or d tier might be fine

[mossy venture]

Still better rhan any gpu you'll get for a 500$ pc budget

[little osprey]

in this market, possibly

[mossy venture]

My guy

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7X7H68

[mossy venture]

1050 costs 150 alone

[vague oracle]

This is what I came up with

[humble dagger]

is a gtx 960 4gb for $160 good?

[vague oracle]

Not enough budget for it

[mossy venture]

Yknow

I'm done here

Yall have fun talking to a brick wall

[little osprey]

why are you getting mad?

[mossy venture]

Repeating myself over and over isn't a hobby I enjoy

[humble dagger]

i dont know if a 960 is ok

[humble dagger]

ok an igpu

[vague oracle]

YOU DONT HAVE BUDGET FOR IT

[humble dagger]

ok waht case should i do

[little osprey]

I think you guys are underestimating how much money can be saved by going with the LGA 2011 platform

[vague oracle]

Literally click the link I sent

[potent portal]

Not without buying into an older platform, which was also suggested

[little osprey]

an ivybridge 8 core 16thread cpu only goes for 18 dollars lol, not to mention it can use ECC DDR3 which is dirt cheap

[mossy venture]

Far

A cpu from 2011

Will not keep up with even a 960 4gb

[little osprey]

2013

umm

you know xeons dont have igpus right

so why are you talking about graphics performance

[mossy venture]

A 3rd gen i5 bottlenecks even a 1030

[little osprey]

yea... an i5

[mossy venture]

Far

Yknow what nvm

[little osprey]

you should try to be less impatient

if you arent familiar with a platform's performance in a current context you should try to learn more about it

[mossy venture]

Four people saying rhe same thing four times each should be enough

Also

Valorant and minecraft are both cpu dependant

[humble dagger]

rlly

[mossy venture]

Yes

Valorant can run on vega 3

[vague oracle]

Older intel CPUs are still pretty expensive and Valorant and Minecraft are both cpu dependent

[little osprey]

you know minecraft only uses a couple threads right

[humble dagger]

i thought a gpu was the sole and heart of a pc

[vague oracle]

Nope

[mossy venture]

I get 50fps with a 4030u

[little osprey]

and single core performance hardly matters on a game as unoptimized as minecraft java

[fossil cedar]

@humble dagger you could do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NhXNRT

[mossy venture]

On my laptop

And valorant

[fossil cedar]

That ram config thoo

[vague oracle]

[mossy venture]

Will not run on a 3rd gen i7

That build will be your best bet

[humble dagger]

thats above my budget 😫

[mossy venture]

By $20 my guy

Question

[vague oracle]

You probably could go for the MP33 like I did and get below budget

[mossy venture]

Are you above the age of 13?

[vague oracle]

LMAO I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE IT WAS 2400

[humble dagger]

i willsave up more then for that

[potent portal]

Guessing you didn't account for tax either it sounds like so you really have a $450 budget

[humble dagger]

wait in my microcenter the 5600g is $200 im set then thanks

[potent portal]

Oh sweet, that works

[vague oracle]

If you really want below $500 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4t2nZZ

[long rock]

Someone pinged me

[vague oracle]

@long rock

[long rock]

Yup

😂

[humble dagger]

nah the 5600g is $200 at MC no worries

[potent portal]

Not recently
You can see where the ping was by searching for "mentions:yourname"

[little osprey]

I just put together a 272 dolalr build using the same parts in your list except for the cpu, mobo, and ram

The replaced parts are a 2650v2, 4x4GB DDR3 ECC 1600, and an Atermiter X79 Turbo (its a good board)

So basically there's money left over for a better cpu, while keeping in mind the build needs a gpu

what do you think pato?

[humble dagger]

i dont rlly dont understand x99 (explain)

[vague oracle]

x99 is a motherboard

[little osprey]

Well this particular one is x79 (lga 2011)

A generation older, the 2650v2 is an ivybridge xeon

[mossy venture]

My guy

[humble dagger]

i just thought x79/x99 was bad

[mossy venture]

How will you put a better cpu

[little osprey]

how come?

[mossy venture]

On an x79 motherboard

[humble dagger]

its old

[mossy venture]

It is old as hell and doesn't support any cpu close to as good as a 5600g

[little osprey]

You know there are higher-end xeons than the 2650v2, right?

[mossy venture]

Xeons

That are meant for multi core use

Not gaming

[fossil cedar]

By 20$ i mean you can downgrade the case or run no case

[mossy venture]

And even a 2600 beats rhat old of a xeon in multi core

[humble dagger]

no case?

[little osprey]

@mossy venture i think you're being confused by that common misconception.

[fossil cedar]

500gb helix l lowest 500gb

[mossy venture]

Xeons

Are

Not

For

Gaming

They are work station cpus

[fossil cedar]

Dont think that mobo has bios flash

[little osprey]

would you be willing to tell me how old are you, because im sensing an extreme lack of practical experience and knowledge from you. @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

Far

Google is literally free

[little osprey]

well, thanks for satisfying my curiosity

[mossy venture]

An lga 2011 xeon

[fossil cedar]

I have no idea how old that xeon is but sounds not great

[little osprey]

@humble dagger DM me if you're interested in going the LGA2011 or LGA2011v3 route

[fossil cedar]

I mean yeah you don't NEEED a case

[mossy venture]

Far show a benchmark of an lga 2011 xeon

Versus a 5600g

Go look at one

[little osprey]

Basically, definitely lower IPC than Zen+ and onwards (for lga2011, zen2 onwards for 2011v3), but comparable or better multi-core performance. The main benefit of going lga2011 or lga2011v3 is the VERY high value you get for the performance. That's why I'm suggesting this is a route he could take since he's very lower-budget focused

[little osprey]

shoebox time

[fossil cedar]

Mobo box

[little osprey]

facts

actually

[little osprey]

Let's gooooooo

lol

[mossy venture]

Far why do you think a 2013 xeon is comparable to a current gen cpu

[little osprey]

this isnt an actual PC I use, its just a temporary OCing setup lol

[humble dagger]

dosent look safe tbh

[little osprey]

im not interested in having an argument with you, since it's clear you're just trying to flex the limited and narrow-minded knowledge you've acquired from 2 years of watching LTT and JayzTwoCentz videos, and reading reddit forums.

[mossy venture]

my guy

[little osprey]

nah it's fine for temporary usage

[mossy venture]

show literally any benchmark

of a xeon

against any current gen cpu

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Xeon-E5-2640-vs-Ryzen-5-3600

[little osprey]

btw that's an x99 platform in that photo there that im OCing, so far i've got my E5 1660v3 up to 4.8GHz, although im going more for stability in benchmarks than raw clockspeed @humble dagger

[mossy venture]

a 3600 absolutely destroys it even in multi core

[little osprey]

thats a sandybridge chip that's overpriced compared to other alternatives in the 2nd hand market, but okay.

[humble dagger]

nice

[mossy venture]

what xeon would you suggest then

and ill find a benchmark for it

[little osprey]

if you want to feel smarter than other people, go to reddit. i dont think this is the server for you.

[mossy venture]

far your entire argument is "wahh you stupid" instead of any actual information

[little osprey]

yea its definitely hot though lmao

Pretty sure my chip is at around 280W power draw

[humble dagger]

@little osprey i dunno what to get so can yopu show like a benchmark

[little osprey]

no problem

[mossy venture]

suggesting a multi core cpu for gaming

on cpu heavy games

just so you can fit in a dedicated graphics card

when 5600g igpu is more than enough minecraft and valorant

hell valorant can run on a 730 at low settings, let alone 5000 series vega 7

[little osprey]

@humble dagger This playlist has a lot of xeon vs [insert modern cpu here] videos, most of which are haswell xeons, but there are some relating to ivybridge and broadwell xeons as well. this should give you a decent idea of how these processors stack up these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gniO8BWy98&list=PL_cUpG5SRHpUdXniPnHeXIJRdLXo29vuP

[fossil cedar]

@humble dagger https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRPNRT you can do this, i just had a better power supply so you could add a gpu down the road but this works too

[little osprey]

wanna know what's fun too? an e5 2697v3 is a 14c 28t CPU with near identical IPC compared to Zen+, and its only 110USD on ebay

and of course it destroys a 2700X in multi-core

I need to get myself another one of those xeons

[mossy venture]

far

single core on that xeon

is not good enough

[humble dagger]

ill watcgh that