building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

oh LOL

[zealous edge]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[earnest olive]

okay I thought you meant it in a good way

[potent portal]

Could shoot for a 5600/XT, better than the 580

[rugged spear]

Thank you!

[potent portal]

And not scalped usually because miners don't like

[earnest olive]

5600xt is around $500

[rugged spear]

Let me try searching…

[zealous edge]

5600xt is definitely a better alternative.

[earnest olive]

5700xt is the mining meta though

[zealous edge]

But then again... price...

[zealous edge]

I have a 5700xt Lol

[rugged spear]

5600xt is around $500
Ooo... I don't know. A bit on the high side...

[earnest olive]

it just depends on how much budget you have, the rest of that build is good enough to support up to a 3070

[zealous edge]

Just before GPU prices staring going ballistic

[earnest olive]

would be fine with a 3090 if you had a better case and power supply

considering it's not going to be at 1080p

the 3600 is enough CPU for the 3090 at higher res

so just scale up the GPU as much as you can afford, don't worry about bottlenecks

[zealous edge]

It is.

[earnest olive]

that case and power supply will do okay with a 3070

[rugged spear]

Thank you so much🙇 🙇 🙇

[earnest olive]

np

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2z2Qt8

How’s this

[earnest olive]

if you could manage to cop a 3060ti FE for 400 or 3070 FE for 500 from a BB drop that would be the best of course

but easier said than done

[zealous edge]

Gpu ?

[earnest olive]

oh wait

I forgot you don't want nvidia

[zealous edge]

religious reasons

LOL

[earnest olive]

well, I've heard very bad things about AMD drops

apparently their website likes to ban humans instead of bots

[fossil cedar]

I'd change case to a metallic gear neo air or mx330 g air and just get a usb dvd reader instead

[zealous edge]

What's wrong with Nvidia lol?

[earnest olive]

he doesn't like proprietary drivers

[full atlas]

Those cases are bigger tho

[fossil cedar]

Yeah nvidia is best bang for buck atm and their drivers unless on Linux really then ppl dont like sometimes

[zealous edge]

I see.

[earnest olive]

I know radeon drivers are open source on linux, dunno about windows

[fossil cedar]

Yeah didn't think they were open source on windows but haven't looked into it

[zealous edge]

Iirc they are not.

But not 100% sure.

[earnest olive]

aiming for an FE 3060ti or 3070 and mining on the downtime to compensate for stretching the budget would've been the best option for sure though

[fossil cedar]

6600xt/6700xt would doooo but ehh not as good

[earnest olive]

6600xt does 32 mh/s at 55w so it's pretty goated from an efficiency standpoint alone

but that doesn't factor in price per card or the fact that you need 2 to match other cards

6700xt, well... there's a reason why miners straight trade BNIB 6700xt for used 5700xt

[zealous edge]

Was just about to say that

[earnest olive]

5700xt is still the best all things considered

[zealous edge]

Yea

[fossil cedar]

It's so weird how they went backwards lol

[earnest olive]

not really when you think about rdna2 architecture

they use infinity cache to alleviate the fact that they're using gddr6 non-x on a 256-bit bus

in terms of gaming performance

much less focused on the actual vram

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i guess

[earnest olive]

technically 3070 laptop GPU should be the raw efficiency king over 6600xt

but that's a laptop so

hard to shove multiple of them into one board lol

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but laptop lol

[fossil cedar]

Unlessssss

[earnest olive]

😳

desolder laptop gpu

someone in china or russia is crazy enough to try it

[fossil cedar]

I mean probs

[earnest olive]

chinese dudes are making BGA to LGA adapters and russian dudes are soldering more vram to their 3070s lol

[fossil cedar]

I mean Nvidia does run laptop gpus on pc hardware to test gsync so it's not not doable

[earnest olive]

gotta love aliexpress engineers

i9-9980HK on Z170

[serene pulsar]

Wait lol can someone explain the whole part difference between skytech and other companies versus ABS

There was some terminology I didn’t get. Something about ABS using the normal market parts

And the other companies using something else

[earnest olive]

most of the smaller system integrators will be using off-the-shelf components

[covert vapor]

OEMs use proprietary parts, ABS and others use normal parts that you can just go out and buy yourself

[earnest olive]

because they don't have the scale to manufacture their own stuff

off-the-shelf parts means you can upgrade whatever you want by yourself down the line

bigger companies like d*ll will use proprietary parts that only work with other d-ll stuff

it's designed to not be upgradable so you just buy a new machine and spend more money

HP also used to be like that but lately their gaming PCs are starting to use parts that aren't quite off-the-shelf, but are compatible with them

so you can upgrade them yourself

[gusty crest]

Can someone tell me what kind of glue I need for replacing a laptop's power button? It's a Toshiba Satellite P770D.

[earnest olive]

I'd imagine any glue that bonds to plastic is fine but I have no idea

[gusty crest]

It's the little thing that attaches to the motherboard, not the external button.

[earnest olive]

ehh just make sure it's nonconductive

[gusty crest]

thanks

[earnest olive]

the conductive parts are covered in solder mask

at least I think so

a nonconductive glue that can bond to materials such as plastic and resin should do the job

[little osprey]

pcpartpicker.com/list/vtttwz
Gaming/streaming build. Black rgb theme. I am getting 2 fake sticks of memory to fill the empty spots.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtttwz

[fossil cedar]

This guy really doesn't listen lol

[analog pulsar]

could someone make a pc part list for 800-900 buget

[fossil cedar]

Gaming?

[potent portal]

That's a 10100/950 build probably, I'm on mobile and pcpp hates my browser or I'd do it

[fossil cedar]

Can they do 850? If so https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491-challenger/p/N82E16883360086R?itemPosition=1-8&exactIndex=2

Best bet

[analog pulsar]

okay ill send them this

[rugged spear]

Is a Preowned PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card for $610 with Free Shipping on Ebay a good deal?

…This item literally sold out as I was writing the question...

[zealous edge]

Rip man.

[fossil cedar]

Good deal if you were selling it, awful for buying

[fair quartz]

hey guys what are your thoughts on this laptop? Processor
11th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-1185G7 Processor (12MB Cache, up to 4.8 GHz)
Operating System
Ubuntu Linux 20.04
Windows AutoPilot
No Windows AutoPilot
Memory
32GB 4267MHz LPDDR4x Memory Onboard
Keyboard
Black Backlit English Keyboard with Fingerprint Reader
LCD
13.4" FHD+ (1920 x 1200) InfinityEdge Non-Touch Anti-Glare 500-Nit Display
Hard Drive
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
Wireless
Killer™ Wi-Fi 6 AX500-DBS (2x2) and Bluetooth 5
Video Card
Intel® Iris Xe Graphics
Power Adapter
45W USB-C AC Adapter Black
Primary Battery
4-Cell Battery, 52 Whr (Integrated)

[fossil cedar]

Price?

[fair quartz]

xps13, total with tax included 1915

[fossil cedar]

Jesus no

That's a 4 core cpu I'm pretty sure

[fair quartz]

ok i originally wanted a macbook, especially the new one that just came out but too expensive

any other recommendations, linux preferably

[zealous edge]

1915 lol

[fair quartz]

i can afford up to $2000

[zealous edge]

You can get a better G Series for that much.

[fossil cedar]

Just get a laptop with windows and install linux yourself

[zealous edge]

Fr

[worn wave]

You can install Linux on pretty much any laptop

[fair quartz]

i need it for school and work

[zealous edge]

Ok

What about the older generation M1 Mac?

[fair quartz]

i need something heavy duty since i code a lot

[zealous edge]

Any gaming or no?

[fair quartz]

and also do video editing stuff

no gaming

i have a pc for that

[zealous edge]

And only considering a laptop?

Ah ok makes sense.

[fossil cedar]

Ehh programming is pretty light weight, compiling can take a bit if working on very large files but apart from that it will run on a potato monitor and keyboard

[fair quartz]

yes i need it to be a laptop, i work remote, plan on working on the go for the next couple of months and also starting computer science school in january

[worn wave]

It depends

[fair quartz]

so yea i need something good

[worn wave]

Some languages can require lots of RAM

Also depends on the size of the actual program

[fossil cedar]

Not for actually coding it tho

Like definitely don't need a 2k laptop for it

Video editing will make it worth it ish

[worn wave]

Hell no but compiling and debugging can eat RAM up

[fair quartz]

i want something that will also last, not buy this week and i have to get something new next year or the other

[worn wave]

If you are just a CS student, you do not need lots of RAM most likely

[fair quartz]

if its < 32gb i dont want it

any recommendations would be much appreciated

[fossil cedar]

@fair quartz https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000A-0K4R4 I'd get this

[fair quartz]

I'll check it out. thank you

@fossil cedar which ones in this list are good? https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100006740 600514831 600337010 600423304 601118869 601286795

[stoic island]

How much is having Linux on there worth to you...?

[stoic island]

You could just wipe the drive on this and install mint on this laptop if you want to

[gritty ruin]

For some reason, my monitor isnt recognizing my pc. Right now I have it connected through my hdmi port fpr the motherbord. Wasnt working for the graphics card either. Anyone know a reason for this?

[stoic island]

@gritty ruin was it working before?

[gritty ruin]

Nope. Never. No matter what, it wont show.

It can only turn on and thats it

[stoic island]

Yay normal troubleshooting steps time

@gritty ruin take a picture of the insides of the PC

[gritty ruin]

Kk give me a sec

[stoic island]

Also, tried different HDMI cables yet in case broken cables?

[gritty ruin]

They worl with my old pc

Work

[topaz kestrel]

new monitor?

[gritty ruin]

Ok check this

Im gonna fix that ssd later on.

[topaz kestrel]

@gritty ruin what cpu?

[gritty ruin]

I5-10400f

[topaz kestrel]

doesnt have integrated graphics

[gritty ruin]

With gammax 400 V2

[topaz kestrel]

thats why it wont be working xd^

[gritty ruin]

I had the rtx 3060 ti on it

And plugeed it in

Still didnt work

[topaz kestrel]

well plugging it into your motherboard wont be doing anything

dead card prob

[gritty ruin]

Im new to this so i didnt know

The card was working

[topaz kestrel]

you got a display port cable?

[gritty ruin]

Fans were spinning

Yes

[topaz kestrel]

doesnt mean it cant be dead...

[topaz kestrel]

try with that

[gritty ruin]

I just got it brand new

Brand

[topaz kestrel]

couldve been doa

worst case scenario

but plugging it into your motherboard wont work since its not a cpu with igpu @gritty ruin

[gritty ruin]

I see

Im gonna change it to display port

And see if it works

[topaz kestrel]

on your gpu

not mobo

it wont work on mobo xd

also what psu do you have?

[gritty ruin]

Ok hold up

[topaz kestrel]

that shouldnt be the issue

[frank spire]

try changing the input

happened to me

[topaz kestrel]

@gritty ruin did it not work with the display?

[topaz kestrel]

^

i was expecting him to try that anyways

[frank spire]

i was using displayport then it happened and i needed to use hdmi

[gritty ruin]

Ok so apparently I dpnt have the display port cable

My hdmi wont fit in it

[topaz kestrel]

try changing the output if you havent first

[topaz kestrel]

???

ofc it wont fit in the display port

[gritty ruin]

Muffin

I noticed that my 24 pin cable isnt all the way in my motherboard socket.

Does it need to be all the way in?

[topaz kestrel]

what do you mean? like its not in properly?

[gritty ruin]

Hold u0

Yes It is not flushed

[worn wave]

Push it all the way in

[topaz kestrel]

push it all the way in

[gritty ruin]

Wouldn't it break my motherboard though? I applied alot of pressure but never went in

Ill try to do it

[topaz kestrel]

wait

is that in the wrong way?

it looks odd

[worn wave]

Does not look like it

[topaz kestrel]

guess not

[gritty ruin]

It is not the seperate one

[topaz kestrel]

it looked weird

[gritty ruin]

Alright im gonna give it a try

Thanks guys

[sterile path]

well remeber when i said i needed the money of the gift to get enough money, well i got a lot more than i expected so i can buy my pc now.

but its almost impossible to get 6800xt, so what should i get as a temporary gpu

[pine junco]

Would anyone be able to dm me and help me find out if my stuff is compatible?

[little osprey]

Just post it here, im sure a lot of people would be willing to help

[cerulean root]

e

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ScroppyIsDead/saved/#view=XFQXkL

[kind vortex]

maybe

[wispy matrix]

So whats the usuage for the build?

[kind vortex]

holy

[wispy matrix]

so we got a budget of 1k

[kind vortex]

a pc part picker link

[cerulean root]

gaming

[kind vortex]

as i can see

not a bad build

[wispy matrix]

do you have the 3060ti already?

[cerulean root]

no

i has case and fans

[wispy matrix]

kinda hard to find that one for that price

[cerulean root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ScroppyIsDead/saved/#view=Cf8n6h

[earnest olive]

was gonna say that's a whole lot of power supply for a slot powered 1050

[kind vortex]

holy

[cerulean root]

there

[earnest olive]

but i see you want to upgrade to 3060ti

[kind vortex]

another pc part picker link

[cerulean root]

anything 3060 6600xt

1660 super

[earnest olive]

warning about the sn550

[wispy matrix]

mushroom im making a list

[earnest olive]

it has been stealth nerfed... it's not as good as reviews may lead you to believe

[cerulean root]

oh, why is it bad?

no dram or something?

[wispy matrix]

its been nerfed

[earnest olive]

they just nerfed its performance by downgrading it without telling anymore lol

[cerulean root]

why?

[earnest olive]

$$$

why else

[cerulean root]

bs

and the price went back up im changing lol

wait nvm

that tb version

what would be the easiest gpu to get?

i have a 1050 for the meantime but.

[wispy matrix]

@cerulean root do you already have the 2tb?

[cerulean root]

accually 3

couldent find exact model

[kind vortex]

gay

[earnest olive]

be warned that montech cases are a bit on the flimsy side in terms of structural integrity

[cerulean root]

but 200mm fans

and 120mm fan

[earnest olive]

yeah, it's a very good budget case besides that

[cerulean root]

lol, so just be careful when building

[earnest olive]

the steel they use is a little flimsy to keep costs down

yup

[cerulean root]

kk

[earnest olive]

don't bend the panels

[cerulean root]

k

im going to put it on my bed until im ready to build with it, cover it every night and cuddle

lol jk

what are chances a person wins newegg suffle?

shuffle*

[earnest olive]

overall a very good part list. i'd recommend changing the ssd to 1TB Team MP33

shuffle prices aren't great

[cerulean root]

dude i just want something

[earnest olive]

often more expensive than just straight up buying from a scalper

for example, the 3090 bundle in today's shuffle was ~40% more expensive than buying a 3090 from a scalper

[cerulean root]

even the cheapest option?

[earnest olive]

and the bundled item was just a motherboard

[wispy matrix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtPxnL

i would change the gpu price

[cerulean root]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaa

[wispy matrix]

give me a sec

[cerulean root]

omg i seen that motherboard too

is it worth to go to atx?

is there a real upgrade or just nice and look better?

[wispy matrix]

actually that gpu price is somewhat near msrp

[cerulean root]

do i really need 750w for a 3060 or 6600xt?

[earnest olive]

the b560m pro-vdh wifi is one of the best b560 boards

i am pretty sure the board he put is worse

[cerulean root]

but 10$ cheaper

[wispy matrix]

lemme change it

[earnest olive]

do you need wifi?

[wispy matrix]

pato is around i think

[cerulean root]

ye

[earnest olive]

then there you go, the pro-vdh wifi is cheaper

[cerulean root]

ye

[earnest olive]

just stick with it

[cerulean root]

is there rgb ballistix?????

[earnest olive]

yes

[cerulean root]

yes mine

there goes my wallet

[wispy matrix]

you want me to put that on the list?

[cerulean root]

ye

[earnest olive]

go Team MP33 over Team MS30

[wispy matrix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZKYcW3

ill change that give sec

[earnest olive]

you really don't need 750w but for $5 more i guess why not

[wispy matrix]

thats why i grabbed it

[cerulean root]

also that is msrp?

or almost

[earnest olive]

uhhh

power supplies are generally not being scalped lol

[wispy matrix]

ye

its only gpu's

i think

[earnest olive]

and some cpus

[cerulean root]

cpu

lol

ok, guys, what is the best advice you can give me for getting a 3060, 1660 super, 6600xt, 2060 super, ect.

[wispy matrix]

also show me your current 3tb storage so i can add it

[earnest olive]

depends on how desperate you are

[cerulean root]

msrp

[earnest olive]

ah

well

[cerulean root]

i dont have my phone rn

[wispy matrix]

well if you want one rn you can get one for like 400 dollars more

like whats it called

[cerulean root]

i know its a contellation sed es.2 or something

it has 3tb

[earnest olive]

1. camp outside at best buy
2. buy one of the 3080ti or 3090 that gets left behind
   3a. scalp it
   4a. buy a lower end gpu with the markup
   5a. pretend you got it at msrp

3b. trade for lower end gpu + cash

[cerulean root]

now what if i only have money to buy a msrp 3060?

[earnest olive]

get lucky or wait until 2023

[cerulean root]

so what time do i have to be at best buy?

couldent i just get a 3060 ti fe?

or are they online only

[wispy matrix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8Lr3Z there

[cerulean root]

or cant i just get a 1660 super? or something slightly cheaper

[earnest olive]

the thing is

most people at best buy are like you

and want to buy the lower end ones

so the chance to get the lower end ones is much lower than one of the higher end ones

[cerulean root]

what time must i be there

[wispy matrix]

this is the cheapest one ive seen so far

[cerulean root]

nooooooooooooo my wallet

[earnest olive]

depends on how populated your area is

some people start camping the day before

[cerulean root]

is there a way to tell

other than go outside and look?

[earnest olive]

i don't bother camping

i couldn't tell you

[cerulean root]

frick

[wispy matrix]

there is a 6600xt for 599.99

[earnest olive]

i'm a full time student with 2 jobs i don't have the time to camp for a gpu lol

[cerulean root]

lol

[earnest olive]

more expensive than scalpers

he said he can only afford msrp

[cerulean root]

how much for scalped

i can go up a max of 500$ for gpu

[earnest olive]

scalped 6600xt from r/hws tends to be around $580 but no tax

in my city that's equal to $533.33 + tax

[tame nexus]

If you don’t live in a crazy state like me you have a better chance at getting a 30 series but it’s not gonna be a cheap one

[cerulean root]

what about scalped 3060 by gigabyte? the 329$ one

[potent portal]

Only one day?
Last drop I was at the scalpers dropped a tent at the beginning of the line 3 days before, then came back with 13 people to resell them

[tame nexus]

Jeez

[earnest olive]

yeah like i said i don't know much about camping besides what i've read on reddit lol

[tame nexus]

That scummy lol

[earnest olive]

i don't bother

[tame nexus]

I’ve camped out for an hr

[cerulean root]

i just want a gpu man

[earnest olive]

scalped 3060s are around $600

[potent portal]

I got a good place in line, about #50, and I got there 2 pm the day before

[wispy matrix]

bro i could live in a line for 4 days lmao

[tame nexus]

And the funny thing was people where lining up in a thunder storm the night before

[stiff halo]

Ok can someone help?

I have a ABS gladiator. Wifi is great but I guess Bluetooth is not built in? Also one of the fans up top isn’t on. Did it get disconnected during shipment or do I need to turn it on manually on the software?

[earnest olive]

did it advertise bluetooth

[stiff halo]

Yes

[earnest olive]

take a pic of the inside of the pc let's see if any fan cables are loose

go to windows settings and search bluetooth, might be turned off

[stiff halo]

I see the wifi card but it just says wifi no Bluetooth text next to it

I can’t turn on Bluetooth and it’s also not listed under device manager.

[earnest olive]

does it say something like intel ax200

[stiff halo]

Ok hold on let me take a pic

[stiff halo]

No

[earnest olive]

well i'll just wait to see it

[stiff halo]

Ok give me a sec I’ll open

[pine junco]

I already own a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650. I am trying to build a pc around that for $500-$550. I would like to go the AMD way. I already picked out the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and the B450 Tomahawk too. Could anyone give me a solid build around that? If so, I would really appreciate it if you could DM me. I am new to building PCs.

[cerulean root]

so you guys are saying, that only chance that i get a gpu, is 1. buy scalped, or 2. go camping for 1-3 days

is there a way to tell when a gpu going to restock soon? at bestbuy?

[earnest olive]

did you already buy those?

you are really gimping yourself if you demand to go AMD

intel has been the budget option for a while now

i'm not going to get into the reason unless you really want to know

but you'd be much better served with an i3-10100 or i5-10400

[cerulean root]

how good is the i3?

like would it bottle neck a 3060 ti?

[earnest olive]

also, ryzen 5 1600 is at an absolutely comical price right now

so you really should not get it

[earnest olive]

depends

you can almost never say a gpu bottlenecks a cpu or vice versa as a blanket statement

in general, you would not want to pair an i3-10100 with a 3060ti

but there are situations in which the 3060ti would be bottlenecking the i3-10100 as well

[stiff halo]

Okay here

Oh. I can’t add photos here lol

[earnest olive]

DM

you need to be level 3 to post pictures

i'll post it for you

[cerulean root]

i have a build with a i5-2400, i think it bottle necks my 1050

[earnest olive]

depends

[cerulean root]

minecraft java

[earnest olive]

you can make a situation in which the 1050 bottlenecks the i5-2400

[cerulean root]

you and your little games

[earnest olive]

from @stiff halo

[cerulean root]

that dont look good

[cerulean root]

is that a gpu

where cooling?

[earnest olive]

that is a wifi card

[cerulean root]

:concern:

oh

nvm

[stiff halo]

It looks like there’s no Bluetooth eh? Just wifi

[earnest olive]

i can't tell you

the card pictured there is merely an adapter

the actual wifi card is on the bottom and i cannot see it

[stoic island]

Wifi usually means bt too

[earnest olive]

go into device manager and see what the wifi device is named

i also can't see where that fan ought to plug in, looks like the case is too cramped to offer a good view of the edges of the motherboard

you should use your finger to feel for cables coming out of that fan

give a gentle pull to help you figure out where that cable is going

i must warn you that if you do find the loose connector, do NOT plug it in while the pc is on

turn it off first

@stiff halo

[cerulean root]

is there a way to tell if a bestbuy is going to restock gpu?

[stiff halo]

Network adapter : Realtek 8821CE wireless lab 802.11ac pcie NIC

[earnest olive]

Realtek 8821CE indeed should have bluetooth support

let's try installing bluetooth drivers

https://www.realtek.com/en/agree-to-download?downloadid=54f09c928bb6ccb408d32b9979426592

https://www.realtek.com/en/agree-to-download?downloadid=4af6c78d0912f44210d3991b13e9d5d9 this is the WiFi driver, but if your WiFi is already working i would not bother

first link is bluetooth

[stiff halo]

Ok downloading now let's see 🙂

[earnest olive]

good luck

[restive halo]

Whats a good budget flip case for a red and black theme/

[earnest olive]

just go black with red rgb lol

[cerulean root]

montech?

[earnest olive]

red accents went out of style in 2017

[cerulean root]

montech X air, one second.

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/Pansonite-Mid-Tower-Supported-Pre-Installed-G01-DS6-0/dp/B08JV2P2KD/ref=sr_1_33?

[earnest olive]

zero airflow

[cerulean root]

https://www.montechpc.com/en/products_detail.php?nid=152

??

[restive halo]

lol I already have the gpu and its red and black

[cerulean root]

what about that

change rgb to red

[earnest olive]

yes i meant for the case

i did a budget build recently with red and black parts from 2015

just got a black case with red rgb

[restive halo]

case?

[earnest olive]

cougar darkblader x5, was looking for a budget case with built in vertical mount and argb controller

that motherboard is too old to have native rgb control, let alone argb

z170 motherboard from 2015 paired with an i7-6700K

[stiff halo]

crap it didn't work @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

perhaps the bluetooth portion of your card is just defective then

[restive halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WnTsX

[earnest olive]

i would contact customer support, wifi cards are not difficult to install so you could ask them for a new one possibly

[earnest olive]

not a fan of paying $200 for a 3600

[restive halo]

I got the MB, GPU, and PSU in a trade for labor

[earnest olive]

i assume you are locked to ryzen because you want to get rid of the x570 board

[fathom shoal]

does anoyone know a decent laptop for 1300 for school and to run val at like 200-500 fps

[restive halo]

yes

[earnest olive]

500 fps? lol

[fathom shoal]

idk

man

[earnest olive]

500hz laptop screen

[stiff halo]

thanks! @earnest olive

[tame nexus]

Just look at bestbuy

[earnest olive]

did you try gently pulling on the fan cable?

[fathom shoal]

like val smothly

[tame nexus]

You can prob get a 1650 ti laptop for like a grand

[fathom shoal]

yeh but theyre mostly all not that good

[earnest olive]

1300 is easily enough for a 3060

[stiff halo]

yes, it's pretty tight

[earnest olive]

give me a moment

[fathom shoal]

kk

[earnest olive]

oh

do you live in the US

country is very important

last time i helped someone find a laptop they ended up being in canada

[tame nexus]

This but it’s sold out lol Idk if it’s any good tho

[earnest olive]

quad core cpu and half the ram is soldered

lower wattage gpu

not my first choice

[tame nexus]

Shoulda brought my laptop to micro center today I’m stupid

Coulda got another 8 gb installed and another ssd out in

[restive halo]

tag me when you done helping Outlaw.

[earnest olive]

he's not the one i'm helping lol

just ask your question

[fathom shoal]

yeh

[earnest olive]

i can handle multiple conversations at once

[tame nexus]

Lol

I already got a laptop

I was just sending some 3060 laptops I seen on best buy

[fathom shoal]

how abt the asus zeyypgorusg15

[restive halo]

you good. I just was not in a rush lol

[fathom shoal]

it has a rygen 9 and a 2090

[earnest olive]

@fathom shoal https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-PH315-54-760S-i7-11800H-Keyboard/dp/B092YHJLS6/

this one is quite good for your use case

also, 2090 does not exist

[frank stirrup]

zeyypgorusg15 and rygen 9 doesn't either

[restive halo]

@earnest olive I was just letting you know that in that build I got the MB, GPU, and PSU in a trade for labor. So im just looking for parts to pair with it to flip.

[earnest olive]

well those i can guess lol

[earnest olive]

yes i already addressed that

[urban trellis]

Does anyone know if the p400 comes with screws that fit in the rog strix b550-f gaming?

[earnest olive]

$200 is a bit steep for a 3600, try to find a cheaper used deal

[earnest olive]

yes

[fathom shoal]

mb i meant 3080

[earnest olive]

that's definitely not $1300 then

[frank stirrup]

Maybe 2300

[urban trellis]

Are the shortest screws the one for the motherboard?

[earnest olive]

read the manual

the manual will clearly indicate which screws are to be used for the motherboard

[urban trellis]

It doesn't say which screws it needs

[frank stirrup]

You haven't read it well enough then

[restive halo]

that was just a place hold on the price. Also not tied to that cpu. What is the best AMD cpu to pair with a 4g 570?

[urban trellis]

I'm on motherboard installation and it doesn't say it

[earnest olive]

bro come on

[urban trellis]

I'll keep looking though

Oh

[frank stirrup]

5950x

[earnest olive]

it's literally right there on the top page

and then again on the second page

[earnest olive]

best is too vague

[restive halo]

whats the price on that

[earnest olive]

$800+

[urban trellis]

I was reading the motherboard manual

[frank stirrup]

^

[urban trellis]

Thanks for the help

[earnest olive]

ah

[restive halo]

best budget cpu to sell a flip with that gpu

[earnest olive]

well case manual tends to be more helpful for building it into the case

[frank stirrup]

My budget for the cpu could be 700$

[urban trellis]

Nice it's my first build so I had no idea

[frank stirrup]

5950x

[earnest olive]

if you can find a used deal on a 3100 for $80, great

but you know

if i were you

i would sell the mobo and use that money to get a lower end cpu+mobo

putting a 3100 in an x570 aorus elite is... well

lol

[frank stirrup]

People need to give a number instead of "budget" or "cheap"

[restive halo]

I might have a 3700

[earnest olive]

good luck

[earnest olive]

lol cheap definitely means very different things to different people

[frank stirrup]

Budget does too

A number tho is better

[restive halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaLc9AYIcg&t=52s

[restive halo]

Im trying to stay around $300 for the rest of the parts

[earnest olive]

sell the mobo

[restive halo]

will a 3700 work with that gpu and MB

[earnest olive]

work? yes

be a sensible pairing? lol no

[restive halo]

lol

to much?

[earnest olive]

...obviously?

you are pairing one with your 3060ti

think for yourself for a second ok?

[restive halo]

yes

[earnest olive]

rx 570 is less than 1/3 of the gpu of a 3060ti

[restive halo]

but I was also thinking that they could upgrade later

[frank stirrup]

Ur making my rx570 sad

[restive halo]

I have never done a flip

[earnest olive]

just draw a 0 on it idiot

free rx 5700

you're welcome

[restive halo]

Just built PC's based on the parts they give me

[frank stirrup]

I wouldnt go higher than a 3600 for an rx570

Ideally 3100

[earnest olive]

i did 3700x + rx 570 once

but it wasn't for a gamer

[restive halo]

ok

[frank stirrup]

Watch me sell a kidney to buy a 5950x with my rx570

[earnest olive]

primarily photoshop with some gpu accelerated effects

[restive halo]

Its just a flip so im just trying to ultimately make money off it

[earnest olive]

be a decent person and build a rig that makes sense for the budget

don't screw over someone that doesn't understand what they're getting

sell the pointless x570 mobo and buy something lower end to make a more sensible pairing with the rx 570

sell it for cheaper since you no longer need to drop $200 on a cpu that's too much for the rx 570

[restive halo]

What should I sell if for?

[earnest olive]

the mobo?

[restive halo]

yes

[earnest olive]

what condition is it in

[restive halo]

working condition lol

[earnest olive]

...

😐

does everything on it work?

physical condition?

[restive halo]

yes

the guy bought a prebuilt for the computer he already had and only took the gpu and cpu out gave me the rest

the ram is trash though

[earnest olive]

try selling the mobo for $150 asking price

it's retailing for $197

[restive halo]

would that motherboard pair well with the 3700?

[earnest olive]

yes but then you'd want a better gpu

[restive halo]

I was also thinking of sellint them as a pair

[earnest olive]

works

[restive halo]

what do you think I could get?

[earnest olive]

3700x + x570 cpu + mobo only $370 bundle deal

[restive halo]

that would buy most of the parts for the flip

[earnest olive]

yup

[restive halo]

so say I do that the all I have is a gpu and a psu. What do you recommend to build it out for a good gaming build flip

[earnest olive]

@frank stirrup hows ram oc going

[kind vortex]

holy that linus

[earnest olive]

not going to use the ssd?

or ram?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vcf7fP

[kind vortex]

i shall take the ram

[earnest olive]

i assumed you already had the ssd + ram

i would leave out the hard drive and offer it as an option instead

[kind vortex]

is the 10100 a good apu anymore?

[earnest olive]

apu?

[kind vortex]

i mean integrated cpu

[earnest olive]

it's still good for a budget build yes

[kind vortex]

what about the 3 3200g

[earnest olive]

oh

you meant without a gpu?

would not use the 10100 without a dgpu

[obsidian wigeon]

3200g is pure sad

[earnest olive]

3200g is fine for an integrated graphics build

but not good to upgrade

[kind vortex]

oh ok

ima go for 10100

[earnest olive]

cause the cpu side is very weak

[kind vortex]

but only 2666mhz ram

[earnest olive]

you can run the 10100 with faster ram as long as you are using b560, z490, or z590 mobo

[kind vortex]

b560 is expensive

[serene pulsar]

my current graphics with i3

rate it

[kind vortex]

sheesh

uhd 620

not bad

[serene pulsar]

yeee

[earnest olive]

the integrated graphics in my new laptop runs league at 240 fps

[serene pulsar]

3070 can probably run that at that too

getting it fridau

[earnest olive]

gaming on integrated graphics and mining on dedicated graphics

[kind vortex]

breh mining and gaming

[kind vortex]

woah

[obsidian wigeon]

for sure

[kind vortex]

what cpu is that

[earnest olive]

i7-11800H

[obsidian wigeon]

11800h

it has xe

[earnest olive]

says it in the picture

[obsidian wigeon]

so stronk

[serene pulsar]

how do you see he is mining

why is cmd open

[obsidian wigeon]

that's not cmd

that's the mining software

it looks like cmd

[serene pulsar]

whats it called

[obsidian wigeon]

there's lots of em

[serene pulsar]

@earnest olive whats the mining program called

[earnest olive]

t-rex

your 3070 is going to be nerfed for crypto mining

[serene pulsar]

and mining is like getting free gpus

whats that mean

[earnest olive]

all of the new cards are LHR

[obsidian wigeon]

lite hash rate

[earnest olive]

they don't mine as well as the non-nerfed cards

[serene pulsar]

meaning

[obsidian wigeon]

hash rate is cut

[earnest olive]

less profit...?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[serene pulsar]

im not selling it

[kind vortex]

hmmm is it worth it to get a b560 motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

mining profit

[earnest olive]

less mining profit

[serene pulsar]

i dont mine

[obsidian wigeon]

not resale

[restive halo]

Ssd yes just forgot about it. The ram that is in it is trash 2600

[obsidian wigeon]

then why'd you ask and say that

[serene pulsar]

i was just asking what the mining thing is

?

[serene pulsar]

im not educated in that

[obsidian wigeon]

alright

well lhr cards makes you earn less with mining

that's as basic as that

[earnest olive]

mining allows me to not feel like i'm wasting my 3080 playing league on it

[obsidian wigeon]

there's still some people around here, mainly white names that thinks mining is bad

[earnest olive]

when i tried uncapped fps on 3080

[obsidian wigeon]

and that it's taking gpus away from gamers

tfw a gamer mines too

[earnest olive]

i mean... it is

it's just not the biggest problem

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[vague oracle]

#building-and-recc-chat best chat

[obsidian wigeon]

they just make it a big deal tho

it's sad

[coarse mesa]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vkp9fP thoughts?

[kind vortex]

1200$ is kinda meh

it could be cheaper in your place idk

[restive halo]

@earnest olive https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TCJj2

[earnest olive]

...why?

[kind vortex]

lol

[earnest olive]

if you are just going to make a worse list after i make you one then go ahead and do what you want

[obsidian wigeon]

The stubborn energy in this is real

[vague oracle]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme swap the psu

evga white is scary

bombs even

the ram and mobo is gonna murder perf

[restive halo]

I was just trying to get the hang of it myself so I don't have to depend on other people. No need to be a jerk.

[earnest olive]

don't bother, i tried explaining this yesterday

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

f

i'll drop it den

[restive halo]

I want to learn

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah but erm

[earnest olive]

he plays a cpu bound game and refuses to believe b560 is worth an extra 1 lunch worth

[obsidian wigeon]

he gave you a guide

might as well follow it tbh

also damn

[restive halo]

Heard

[obsidian wigeon]

well some people are just dense

it's a shame

[earnest olive]

then ask me to explain why i picked something, don't just be like "here i don't care about the list you made me here's mine"

[vague oracle]

It’s not really being rude, this just happens way too often it pisses everyone off

[restive halo]

Not what I was trying to get across that's my bad

[earnest olive]

i'm not getting paid to do this

[restive halo]

Gotcha

[urban trellis]

Is it ok to build on a wood floor?

[earnest olive]

yup

[vague oracle]

Yep

[earnest olive]

avoid carpet - anything else is fine

[kind vortex]

is the 3000g good ?

[vague oracle]

Carpet should be avoided

[urban trellis]

Ok thanks

[earnest olive]

my friend started his first build on carpet

i told him

[urban trellis]

Yep static

[kind vortex]

breh

[urban trellis]

Oh god

[earnest olive]

alright mate, grab the cardboard box your case came in

that's your surfboard now

[kind vortex]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

you can build even on tiled floor

[vague oracle]

I once replaced a cooler and cpu on a carpet lmaooo

[urban trellis]

Did they die?

[vague oracle]

But it wasn’t like one of those shaggy carpets, so it barely builds up static

Nope they still work fine

[urban trellis]

Oh nice

[vague oracle]

Still not recommended tho

[earnest olive]

static is unlikely to kill pc parts

like

extremely unlikely

[obsidian wigeon]

I one time did an impromptu ram upgrade on my laptop, on my chair

[earnest olive]

but extremely unlikely is still more likely than zero

and it's an easy risk to avoid

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[earnest olive]

sooo

yeah ive fiddled with my pc in my room which is carpeted but there is a plastic mat under my chair

so i just stood on that

[restive halo]

Why did you pick those parts?

[earnest olive]

which one

or all of them

[vague oracle]

Good performance even better value

[restive halo]

Cpu, mb

[coarse mesa]

nah

[kind vortex]

0ok

[earnest olive]

why i picked i3-10100F over ryzen 5 1600: mostly single core performance

ryzen 1000 has the single core performance of intel third gen

[urban trellis]

Is it a bad idea to remove the HDD cages just so I can have more room to put my hand in and connect the cables to the psu

[earnest olive]

doesn't matter that you have 6c/12t if the 6 cores all suck

[earnest olive]

if you don't have an hdd, no

you can get rid of the cages

[coarse mesa]

what should i change it to at basically the same price? i wanna keep some extra power there for future upgrades

[urban trellis]

Yay

[obsidian wigeon]

sips was right

i can't help ya

[earnest olive]

why i picked the motherboard: cheapest b560 that has vrm heatsinks

[obsidian wigeon]

[earnest olive]

any board with no vrm heatsinks is really just bad

[coarse mesa]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest olive]

unless you are going to use some heavily power limited T series CPU or something

and even then you still really shouldn't skimp that hard

[restive halo]

I appreciate the time

[earnest olive]

b560 is a better choice compared to b460 because it allows you to use higher frequency ram

ram speed is very important for cpu performance in gaming

the cooler was what you already had, but it's a fine cooler and not much reason to change it if you wanted red lighting anyways

the vetroo v5 is also fine

[obsidian wigeon]

10400f and 2400mhz ram

that's a huge performance hit

[vague oracle]

Fan on the Vetroo V5 is kinda meh tho. Not very long lasting

[earnest olive]

source?

[vague oracle]

Give me a few, a guy explained this to me way back

[earnest olive]

i have a few vetroo v5s

interested

[vague oracle]

Im just going to copy and paste what he said once I find it

[earnest olive]

thanks

[restive halo]

Yea I put one in my wife's build to

[vague oracle]

“There are no reputable/thorough reviews when it comes to the Vetroo v5, the only things we can rely on are personal testing as well as the huge amount consumer reviews. The Vetroo uses a hydraulic bearing, hydraulic bearing are very vulnerable to dust and tend to have a short life span, and the Vetroo isn’t an exception as we can see from the mass amount consumers who have reported loud noise or fan failure. The only way I could recommend the Vetroo is if the consumer were to do a full fan swap. Some possible considerations if doing a fan swap are Gelid Stella(if you want RGB) or Arctic P12s(If going for a color neutral build), the Stellas coming in at $11 while the P12s are coming in at $10.”

Said by Perky on the flipping central discord @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

not at all surprised that it's using a cheaper bearing

it's still the cheapest way to get a fully black or white argb cooler into a build

[vague oracle]

What about the 224XT

[earnest olive]

replacing the fan with another cheap argb fan down the line isn't a significant downside to me imo

[vague oracle]

Isn’t the V2 all black?

[earnest olive]

argb

[vague oracle]

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-ARGB-V2-Cooler-Addressable-Heatpipes/dp/B08SLPQP84

$10 more than the vetroo

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-234-ARGB-Cooler-Addressable-Heatpipes/dp/B084G3Y7KZ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?

[meager citrus]

ID cooling stuff is decent

[earnest olive]

interesting, it's on sale for $40 now?

last i saw it was $48

at $40 i'd for sure pick this over the vetroo v5 yes

se-224-xt is a very nice cooler

[vague oracle]

Normally it’s $45

Better stock up

[earnest olive]

someone is going to buy this and feel very scammed when they do not receive a citrus fruit

[restive halo]

The ID is ARGB and $35

[earnest olive]

se-224-xt mounting system is very easy and effective

[vague oracle]

The one you sent isn’t the 224XT

[little osprey]

"ripped through the motherboard socket" LOL

[restive halo]

I know just had it in my viewed

[earnest olive]

grade A amazon reviewer

[restive halo]

@earnest olive Do you have another MB selection that one is sold out

[earnest olive]

does not look sold out to me

[restive halo]

weird

[earnest olive]

doesn't even have the low stock warning

just a pcpp glitch

[restive halo]

I refreshed and it came up.

Was saying out of stock

Glitch I guess

[jagged ember]

Pulled the cpu thru the socket

Mm yes

The socket is an endless void

He also lost the cooler

[earnest olive]

"I know how to install a tower cooler"

[stiff halo]

So what's the general consensus on Newegg's ABS prebuilds?

[obsidian wigeon]

good

[stiff halo]

better than ibuypower I guess?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeee

[stiff halo]

awesome

[frank stirrup]

I havent gotten any time yesterday and no time today either

Offline college started

[earnest olive]

smh

drop out for more important things (ram oc)

[stiff halo]

newb here. Where does my extra HDD go?

I have an extra hdd idk where in the case it belong lol

[frail valve]

Depends on the case. Most will have some sort of dedicated hdd bay

[calm heron]

still suffering *

stupid air flow

is removing the panel health for the pc ?

[stiff halo]

rosewill spectra d100 i think

[frail valve]

Here's the drive bay in the lower left corner of the case

You need to take off the back panel, the same one you access your power supply

[stiff halo]

Ahh. That’s the metal panel right the opposite side of the glass

[frail valve]

Yes

Lots of modern cases have drive bay out of the way for a cleaner look

[stiff halo]

Thanks. Totally didn’t know

[frank stirrup]

Thats the hard disk bay

[stiff halo]

It’s not supposed to fit snug is it?

[frank stirrup]

You need to screw the drive in to one of the trays and then just slide it in

Press that clip inwards and pull the tray out

Fit the drive in and slide the tray back in

[stiff halo]

Ok thanks. I’m using an old hdd from my laptop from 2015 so I guess it’ll fit

[frank stirrup]

Laptop hdd wont fit

Those are 2.5"

Those bays are 3.5"

Desktop hhds

[obsidian wigeon]

^

ya need a bracket

[frail valve]

Can't he attach the 2.5" drive to the side of the case?

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[potent portal]

You'll get more dust but it's not dangerous in any way

[frail valve]

So, I was going to scrape bottom of the barrel for a new laptop (10300h, 1650, $650) but then I stumbled across this for $200 more when looking though pre-black-friday sales (seems a bit early for those imo, but I'm not going to complain). Laptops are not my forte, so I don't know what's considered "good", spec wise or for the money. Is this worth taking a look at or waiting for Black Friday proper?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gf65-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-rtx3060-512gb-ssd-8gb-memory-black/6456144.p?acampID=0&cmp=RMX&irclickid=36dXvYz1BxyIRh%3AyY4X8ZS%3AyUkBSnCSJRTDURc0&irgwc=1&loc=Narrativ&mpid=376373&ref=198&skuId=6456144

[obsidian wigeon]

That's so good

Just get it asap

[frail valve]

...oh

[potent portal]

Yeah that looks good to me too

[ionic ruin]

that's essentasilly the laptop i have

i got an i5 10300h+3060 for 1300 aud

[obsidian wigeon]

10500H+3060 for 850 or so

[frank stirrup]

Insta buy

[obsidian wigeon]

that's crazy deal

It's what 1650 laptops goes rn here

[ionic ruin]

950 usd

is what i got mine for

[obsidian wigeon]

950 is still good

[ionic ruin]

yea

[frail valve]

The laptop I was referring to earlier was it's less powerful cousin
https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-GF63-Thin-i5-GTX-1650-MaxQ-8GB-256GB-Gaming-Laptop-15-6-FHD-Display-Intel-Core-i5-10300H-NVIDIA-GeForce-MaxQ-8GB-DDR4-256GB-NVMe-SSD-Windows-10-G/914922612?athbdg=L1600

[obsidian wigeon]

ehh

yeah that one's meh for sure

[frail valve]

I assume for the extra 200 the better CPU, gpu and 144hz screen is worth it given all of your reactions

[obsidian wigeon]

yee

[frail valve]

I'll buy it and post it in tech deals proper later. It's almost 3 in the morning and I need sleep

[frank stirrup]

Stole this for #tech-deals

[frail valve]

Well thanks for doing the Ctrl c Ctrl v for me

Now I really have to buy it ASAP tho >:\

The thing is, I would ask Dell for an out of warranty repair on my Dell g3

[potent portal]

This also reminded me that I have to buy a TV. Best Buy had a 70" 4k smart tv for $600.

[frail valve]

But it came to my attention that said Dell g3 was built with a cooling defect that weakened the joint between the monitor and main body

I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars for a machine that will fail in another year

[frank stirrup]

Daaaaammmmn

[frail valve]

Nice find. Might want to set a reminder via Google keep notes if you have an Android

[frank stirrup]

60hz or more?

[potent portal]

60Hz

I put up the link

[fossil cedar]

Would you not spend 30mins or so reinstalling linux on a Windows laptop instead of a linux one?

[fossil cedar]

I'd get a 5600g and build everything but the gpu now as you'll need all the money you can to try get that 6800xt for anything close than you budgeted

[tight sorrel]

from the user manual. 2.5" will also fit

[frank stirrup]

Ahh its one of those

Wanted to pull up the user manual but wasnt home

Rip

[versed rock]

Laptop Drives will fit just about anywhere you can Double Sided Tape them.

[frank stirrup]

true for all drives and the motherboard technically

[versed rock]

Ok, I wouldn't Double Sided Tape a 3.5" drive...

That's... not a great idea.

[worn wave]

I have double sided taped a 2.5" drive before lmfao

[versed rock]

And I definitely wouldn't double sided tape a motherboard.

[worn wave]

In a dell USFF system

[versed rock]

They don't weigh that much.

2.5" drives are fair game for doublesided tape

[frank stirrup]

Still not a good idea to

drives are susceptible to damage if they fall

leave it flat on a surface instead

[little osprey]

Chuck your 2.5inch drive across the room to test reliability

(dont)

[teal musk]

Quick question. I’m setting up my motherboard right now. There are three m2 slots and I’m only using one. Do I need to take the plastic off the thermal pads for the other two or leave plastic on?

[fossil cedar]

Leave the plastic on for the unused ones

[teal musk]

Thanks

[sterile path]

How good is the 5600G? Does the cpu perf change from the 5600X?

And how good is the gpu in the 5600g

[obsidian wigeon]

5600G is closer to 3600 in cpu

And the igpu is like over gt 1030 by a bit

[fossil cedar]

It's a bit better than the 3600, but it's a pretty alright interim gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[earnest olive]

double sided tape your cpu coward

[frank stirrup]

instructions unclear cpu stuck on ceiling

please advise

[little osprey]

instructions unclear cpu stuck on power supply

[earnest olive]

take it off and put it in the toaster

[little osprey]

ah yes, how silly of me

[frank stirrup]

Instructions unclear, ceiling stuck in toaster

[earnest olive]

congratulations you have successfully built your pc

[frank stirrup]

it no gib output

I hab igpu

[little osprey]

ceiling toaster ceiling toaster

[earnest olive]

did you make sure you plugged your HDMI cable into the toaster

[frank stirrup]

yes but no display

[earnest olive]

reset ceiling battery

[little osprey]

try underclocking toaster gpu

or reinstall toaster firmware

[frank stirrup]

I dont have one

[earnest olive]

return PC and buy nzxt prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

Yo sips did you see nzxt prebuilt is doing a build your own option kek

[earnest olive]

what

like they ship you the parts?

and you assemble it?

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yes https://youtu.be/-dLzeagH1Gw

[earnest olive]

lmao

but like

why

why does that exist

[worn wave]

To teach people

Even tho youtube exists

How overpriced is the kit

compared to normal NZXT pre built

[fossil cedar]

Idk watched the first 30 seconds and went bruh this bulllll

[earnest olive]

the worst part is that people are going to buy this

[worn wave]

I watched the whole video yesterday