building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Plenty could go wrong if you try to built it

[empty cliff]

you could tell huh?

[fossil cedar]

In these times yeah basically

[mossy venture]

Just by the 3800x

3800x gets very hot and is basically a more expensive 3700x

[obsidian wigeon]

i mean 3700x is also not worth gettin

[mossy venture]

And thermal throttles to the point it's worse than a 3700x pretty often

Ofc

[obsidian wigeon]

5600x better choice

[mossy venture]

I said that

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

[mossy venture]

Just talking about between it's own gen

But 5600x is the better cpu in that budget, but the 10400f in that pre built is enough for a 3060 ti

It's slightly better than my 3600 that I run with my 3060 ti

[little osprey]

i went for a 3900x over a zen3 cpu

[empty cliff]

I pretty much know nothing on how to build a pc so I was guiding myself mostly by prices

[fossil cedar]

3800x is same thermals as 3700x

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's not a great way to pick pc parts, I'd just go with the prebuilt i linked

[little osprey]

Yea in this market, a prebuilt is pretty much the best way to go for getting a new system

[empty cliff]

yeah I think Im better of buying a prebuilt

[little osprey]

too bad most prebuilts suck so you have to be careful

[little osprey]

that doesnt really seem like a reliable source if im being honest

[mossy venture]

Same core and thread count right?

Yeah true

It's techspot

Lowkey a meme

IlL jUsT uSe LiNuS

[little osprey]

also PBO is based off thermal headroom (and other factors). so theoretically, yes, they can boost to a similar speed, but the 3800x still has a higher base speed

im pretty sure thats how it works anyway 🤔

but yea the 3800x still isnt really worth it

[mossy venture]

Idk, I'm mostly talking about stuff I heard here a while back

I was thinking about buying a used 3700x and I saw multiple 3800x for the same price

[fossil cedar]

2-3c is close enough to margin of error

[mossy venture]

People told me what I said above ^^

[empty cliff]

just tried to get it they are apparently out

any other recommendations?

[fossil cedar]

Abs nice tho

[little osprey]

yea, thankfully lol

[fossil cedar]

It was in stock like 5 mins ago, you sure ? Or are you in a different country?

[little osprey]

my brother got a cyberpower back in 2016, it still works, but when he got it, he had to RMA it because the GPU was dead LOL

[empty cliff]

says out of stock

im in the us rn

[fossil cedar]

@empty cliff https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?itemPosition=1-11&exactIndex=1

[worn wave]

I got a Cyberpower back in 2016 and one of the RAM sticks were DOA

[fossil cedar]

Ugh sorry

[mossy venture]

Abs is pog

[fossil cedar]

Idk why it says that

[worn wave]

GPU was not seated in slot properly either

[fossil cedar]

@empty cliff https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568/p/N82E16883360198

[empty cliff]

for the one you just sent

is it worth getting the 3060 ti?

[mossy venture]

It's a big jump from 3060 to 3060 ti

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

Like what, 25%? I forget exactly how much

[fossil cedar]

3060 ti is a lot better anyway

[empty cliff]

just checked and the 3060 ti one is cheaper right now

[mossy venture]

2070 to 2080s, I know that

[fossil cedar]

3060 ti is like 10% worse than 3070

3060 is like 2070/2060 super

[mossy venture]

Ye

I just go by 2070 vs 2080s

Close enough comparison

[empty cliff]

think I'm going to get it

[mossy venture]

3060 ti is great

[empty cliff]

thanks for the recommendation @fossil cedar

[mossy venture]

When i played I got a consistent 144fps on warzonr for the most part

Oh also

You should get a gaming monitor

[empty cliff]

maybe once gpu prices go down I will try to actually build a pc

[mossy venture]

Not sure if you know about that

[empty cliff]

and give this one to my brother

[mossy venture]

You should get a 144hz 1080p monitor imo, unless you wanna spend 300$ for a 1440p 144hz

Basically

Higher refresh rate is how often the screen updates

[empty cliff]

if its higher than 720p its good enough for me

[mossy venture]

If you currently have a pc, im guessing your monitor is 60hz

Resolution isn't all that matters

Refresh rate is different

@fossil cedar any reccomendations for a 1080p 144hz monitor?

[fossil cedar]

Np :>

[empty cliff]

I was thinking of getting a monitor with a minimum of 144hz

[mossy venture]

You don't need more than that

Unless you play competitively

[fossil cedar]

For 1080p msi g241/msi g242 for 1440p m27q

[empty cliff]

but going higher makes them like $200+

so yeah a 144hz is what I'm going for

[mossy venture]

The g241 or g242 it is then

Or m27q if you really want 1440p

But it's like double the price I'd guess

Idk how much those 1080p monitors cost

And i don't feel like checking lmao

But somewhere around twice the price

[empty cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047?Description=msi optix g241&cm_re=msi_optix g241-_-24-475-047-_-Product&quicklink=true

that's the g241 right?

[mossy venture]

Looks like it

The 242 looks to be 350$ on newegg lmao

Scalper tryna scam people who don't know much about pcs

241 is what you'll want

[fossil cedar]

Yee

[empty cliff]

guess I'm all set then

thanks for the help guys

[mossy venture]

Not that I did much but happy to

[empty cliff]

do you guy know if honey works on newegg?

[mossy venture]

I dont see why it wouldn't

[obsidian wigeon]

It works on newegg

[empty cliff]

gues it has no promo codes right now

[obsidian wigeon]

I have tried it

Yeah if it has none, it wouldn't work

[fossil cedar]

Np :)

[carmine swallow]

Would you guys recommend buying a used 1080 for a cheap build that's been used for data mining?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on budget tbh

[mossy venture]

Depends on budget, cpu, and price of the gpu

[carmine swallow]

i5-10400

around 700-1000$ gpu included

[mossy venture]

How much is the 1080?

[carmine swallow]

250 on current bid

[fossil cedar]

How long is left on the bid tho

[carmine swallow]

nvm went up to 320$

5 days

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's going up

[mossy venture]

Yeah that ain't gonna end in your favor

[fossil cedar]

You could probs find a 1070 tho

[mossy venture]

How much of your budget can you spend on gpu?

Check out r/hardwareswap if you have a reddit account

[carmine swallow]

prolly 300$, so im not going for that 1080 anymore lmao

[mossy venture]

Yeah 1070 would probably be your best bet

[fossil cedar]

980/980 ti/1070

[carmine swallow]

yeah i started looking around and was thinking the same thing

980 ti and 1070 are similar in performance?

[light tangle]

What's the best gaming laptop under $1000. Need to get one for my 11 year old nephew any suggestions?

[little osprey]

yea they're similar but the 1070 is better in pretty much every way

[fossil cedar]

@carmine swallow I'd do something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dvkncT

[mossy venture]

Theyre the same basically

Other than nvenc

[mossy venture]

Usd?

[light tangle]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Alr, I'm at school rn and have to do smthn if no one else does first I'll take a look when I have a min

[light tangle]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

What's he do?

Is it just for games like minecraft, or is he going to be playing stuff like cod

[light tangle]

I think more like games like Call of duty.

[mossy venture]

Ah

I found a laptop with a 3060 for 1100, but it only has 8gb ram

And 16gb is kinda needed now

Might have to settle for a 2060 or 16 series so everything else in it is decent enough to keep up

[light tangle]

What brand and model is it?

[mossy venture]

I mean, 3050 ti is meh but there's this
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Display-Processor-GeForce-82JW0012US/dp/B08YKG5K7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=3060+laptop&qid=1634051112&sr=8-21

Definitely imbalanced in terms of overkill cpu for that gpu

Here's that other laptop https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gf65-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-rtx3060-512gb-ssd-8gb-memory-black/6456144.p?skuId=6456144

[light tangle]

Thank you. I'll look into these

[mossy venture]

I'm still looking around

[light tangle]

Ok

[mossy venture]

This is def more balanced of the three but also over budget a bit more so https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GF65-144hz-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B09FZMZ3BV/ref=mp_s_a_1_29?dchild=1&keywords=3060+laptop&qid=1634051285&sr=8-29

Also, is he dead set on a laptop?

[light tangle]

Yeah that's what he seems to really want.

[mossy venture]

I'm tryna find smthn with 16gb ram, but most 1650 laptops seem to have 8gb, 2060 laptops seem to be overpriced, and 3060 laptops are all over budget

Could always upgrade ram ig

[lyric thistle]

find replaceable ram slots and just plug in another 8

[kind vortex]

😎

[lyric thistle]

getting 16 from the company is never worth it

[kind vortex]

epic gamers idea

[kind vortex]

why

the ram slow?

[lyric thistle]

massive upcharge

[kind vortex]

oh ok

[lyric thistle]

they ask way to much for it lol

[kind vortex]

like pay extra 50$ for another 8gb ?

[lyric thistle]

lol

[mossy venture]

Maybe just get smthn like this and upgrade the ram https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-17-3-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx3050-ti-512gb-ssd-eclipse-grey/6464212.p?skuId=6464212

3050 ti is meh with 4gb of ram

But all 3060 laptops will be over budget, and I cannot find a 2060 laptop under budget for the life of ke

[lyric thistle]

last gen stuff is expensive

[peak ginkgo]

Which is ridiculous

[lyric thistle]

I wish I could get a 2060 :>

[light tangle]

I have some thinking to do

[lyric thistle]

and like an i3-10100

money

[mossy venture]

Anyone who says money can't buy happiness likes being wrong

[light tangle]

True

[stoic island]

Money can buy things for happiness

[feral bobcat]

hi

[mossy venture]

Yes

For example

You can buy infinite entertainment

[feral bobcat]

a 5000 usd build for 5900x 3080

[mossy venture]

Hell no

Very much no

[worn wave]

5000 USD can get you a hell of a lot more than a 5900X and a 3080

[mossy venture]

5000 usd can get you more than a 5950x and 3090 pc lmao

[worn wave]

Yeah lmfao

[feral bobcat]

ok

what about 3500

[mossy venture]

Still no

Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC - Intel i9 10900K - GeForce RTX 3080 - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB DDR4 3200MHz - 1TB Intel 670P M.2 NVMe SSD - RGB AIO 240MM Cooler - Windows 10 Pro 64-bit https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali567/p/N82E16883360197?Item=N82E16883360197&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-197-_-10122021

[fossil cedar]

@feral bobcat https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3bNFz7 if you can spend more but this will do nicely too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4Rbqp

[feral bobcat]

thanks

[fossil cedar]

Np

[carmine swallow]

is there a good apu out there for a 1000$ build? im kinda done being charged 500 for 980 ti in Canada XD

[fossil cedar]

Ohh you never mentioned you were in Canada, so your budget is 1000$ cad, that changed everything lol, Ryzen 5 5600g is probs your best bet for apu

[little osprey]

hey guys would i be able to mix these ram? they are both same model but diff brands and one is 3000mhz, other is 3200mhz but mobo caps at 2933 for current ram

[mossy venture]

No

[little osprey]

unstable?

[mossy venture]

The die is what matters, theyre made by different companies so most likely use different dies

[little osprey]

ahh i see

thanks

[fossil cedar]

Would be a bad time yeah

[carmine swallow]

yea i keep forgetting my b. i did look into that and the 5700g. they are both very close in pricing

[fossil cedar]

Not really 5600g is 289, 5700g is 420, 5700g really isn't worth it majority of the time unless you need apu with more cpu cores

[carmine swallow]

oh you're right. I was looking at a different chip

what about the ryzen 5 3400g. For some reason its the same price as a 5700g

[fossil cedar]

Nah it's pretty crappy

[carmine swallow]

alright i've chosen the 5600g, now i just need a decent mobo for it

[earnest olive]

may i ask why

you have a dedicated graphics card

the 5600g is strictly worse than the 5600x and even the 10400

if you are going to use dedicated graphics anyways

[carmine swallow]

i dont have a dedicated graphics card. this is my first build and i was trying to decide between different cpus. I was going for 3600 or it 10400. But either of those are way too expensive here in Canada when considering for a build since i have to get a gpu on top of this and well you know how gpus are right now

[earnest olive]

didn't you have a 1650 yesterday

[carmine swallow]

nah i was going for one but then decided not to

[earnest olive]

you should seriously just buy that 1070 pc i linked you yesterday then

[carmine swallow]

i realized 400 for 1650 is too much

i messaged them, but havent gotten a reply yet

[earnest olive]

like i get that you want to build your own but is it really worth sacrificing 90% performance

5600g integrated graphics is nowhere near your performance target

unless you only play games that are about 10 years old and only expect up to 60 fps at lowest settings

[carmine swallow]

its cheaper than a 3600 here

[earnest olive]

still not a reason to get it

the 3600 is inflated to hell everywhere

[carmine swallow]

at this point i dont mind 60 fps if it means waiting for a decent gpu

[earnest olive]

because they stopped producing it but people still want to buy it because of youtube videos

[earnest olive]

did you read the rest of what i wrote or only the number 60 lol

60 fps at lowest settings in 10 year old games maybe

[carmine swallow]

so then what would you suggest, cuz im pretty sure that 1070 is gone or will be by the time i can get to it

[earnest olive]

i suggest putting more effort into looking for a gpu

i found that 1070 pc in about 6 seconds

[carmine swallow]

if i dont go apu then i gotta pay crazy high for a dedicated gpu

[earnest olive]

in modern games (3 years or newer) you can expect to see 20-30 fps at 1080p lowest settings on the 5600g

idk about you but that's not what i consider playable

especially not by the standards for an $800 pc

[storm dagger]

Can I run a r7 265 on a HP compaq 6300 pro mt prebuilt? It has a 320 watt power supply. Currently running a r7 240 on it. And looking for an upgrade on the machine.

[earnest olive]

does it even physically fit

that is a very small chassis

[storm dagger]

yeah, the case is big enough

its not the sff version

[earnest olive]

does the power supply have a 6 pin pcie power on it?

[carmine swallow]

im looking at all options. I havent even started buying anything, still looking around. Apu is a backup plan in case i dont find a gpu at all. Im not paying 400$ for 1070. I dont mind waiting, but idk how long it will be for cards like rtx 2060s to come down close to a reasonable price

[storm dagger]

No, but I have a sata to 6 pin extension.

[earnest olive]

NO

get a molex to 6 pin

sata to 6 pin is a fire hazard

it looks like they made a typo on the spec page i'm pretty sure the pcie slot cannot supply 725W of power

it's most likely a proper 75W slot though

so it should work

just get a molex to 6 pin please

even if your sata to 6 pin has been working fine so far

[storm dagger]

Should I be able to run the card if I get molex to 6 pin ?

[earnest olive]

you are going to increase the load on it to 75W

that is melted connector territory

r7 265 has 150W tdp

75W slot 75W through 1 6-pin

[earnest olive]

i'd recommend no less than double molex to single 6-pin

double molex will be safe to push 75W through

single molex or sata is pushing it

i'd say sata to 6 pin has a roughly 100% chance of melting or catching fire under a sustained 75W load

[tranquil dust]

i need a new cpu but then i need a new motherboard and if i get a better cpu then i need an aio then i need more power then i need a bigger case

[storm dagger]

Thank you for your time and knowledge , mate !

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.com/Xertas-Molex-Express-Adapter-Y-Cable/dp/B072XPL8T2/

this will do fine for $7

enjoy

[tranquil dust]

i got an intel i3-8100 what should i upgrade to

[earnest olive]

man that would be hilarious if HP actually built that motherboard's power delivery enough to supply 725W through a pcie slot lmao

the pcie connector would probably melt

[earnest olive]

"need" is a strong statement

you can absolutely air cool an i7-8700 or i5-9400 lol

what motherboard do you have? bottom tier h310?

if you have a bottom tier h310 i'd stick to an i5

[worn wave]

What case do you have also?

You might not "need" to upgrade your case

[earnest olive]

i've seen z370 boards hit 110c vrm temps, those i7s are NOT kind to bad vrms

[tranquil dust]

well i have the stock cooler and when it’s pinned at 100% fan speed my temps are 80°. i already replaced thermal paste and everything. i have a z370 a pro.

[earnest olive]

i mean... air coolers besides stock cooler exist

[worn wave]

Stock Intel cooler is not great at all

[tranquil dust]

yea but i like the look of an aio

[earnest olive]

i'd grab an i5-8600K or i5-9600K along with an id-cooling se-224-xt or thermalright peerless assassin pa120

and you'll be able to do some mild oc

[worn wave]

An AIO is going to be very expensive in comparison to a air cooler

[earnest olive]

unless you can get a nice deal on an i7-8700

if you find a nice deal on an 8700 absolutely take it

[tranquil dust]

8700k?

[earnest olive]

i mean

if you find a stupidly cheap one sure

but it's not worth paying a premium for

your board is not exactly built to push an 8700k to the limit

[tranquil dust]

good point

i was thinking maybe an all NZXT build

[earnest olive]

the z370 board i had was a much better one and was still hitting 110c vrm temps

[tranquil dust]

ut thats stupid expensive

whats a good price for an i7 8700

[earnest olive]

150

it really depends on your budget, if you have $230 then yeah you can get i7-8700 or i7-9700 + 240mm aio

[tranquil dust]

i found it on amazon for $330 💀

[earnest olive]

if you have $200 you could still get away with an air cooled i7-8700

well of course you'd have to look for a used one

I bought a used 8700K for $150

but that was a mistake

they degraded it

[tranquil dust]

what about the i7-8086k

oh jesus nvm

[worn wave]

Not a great idea at all

[tranquil dust]

@earnest olive i found a i7-9700K for $270

[earnest olive]

way overpriced

stop looking at retail

go browse r/hardwareswap

[serene pulsar]

What’s up everyone

I had Covid and was out at the hospital for a while

[frank stirrup]

#general-chat mate

[serene pulsar]

Any good prebuilts show up while I was gone?

[frank stirrup]

Ahh ok

whats ur budget?

ill link u one

[serene pulsar]

1500-1700

[frank stirrup]

glad ur better!

[serene pulsar]

Looking to game and stream

[frank stirrup]

ah aight gimme 2 mins

are you fine with open box?

@serene pulsar

[serene pulsar]

What’s open box

[frank stirrup]

basically someone returned the pc for some reason but its still all in order

@serene pulsar

and hes gone

nice

[mossy venture]

F

[frank stirrup]

eh well

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali479-gladiator/p/N82E16883360074R
open box

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali463/p/N82E16883360048
not open box

[serene pulsar]

Not open box

[mossy venture]

Nice prices

[serene pulsar]

Is Ryzen 7 3700 good cpu

For gaming

Like decent

[frank stirrup]

yes

and the 3070 is great

[mossy venture]

^^

Good for 1440p if you want to run it

[serene pulsar]

You don’t think it’ll heat up?

[frank stirrup]

I would buy this but its open box

[serene pulsar]

Being that it’s not mesh

[frank stirrup]

nah itll be fine

3700x doesnt run very hot

[mossy venture]

Yeah 3700x is relatively cool

As long as the heatsink is even close to decent you'll be fjne

[frank stirrup]

its got airflow on the side and bottom

so as long as its not put on a carpet itll be fine

[serene pulsar]

I shoulda taken the 1400$ one Pav gave me way back when lol

1300-1500$ don’t exist anymore

They all sold out

[frank stirrup]

i mean they are there

just a 3060/ti

not 3070

I gave you good prebuilts for ur budget

if you wanna decrease it lemme know

ill send other ones

[serene pulsar]

how about for 1400$

Or 1500

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195

[fossil cedar]

Smexy

[zinc root]

Hello everyone! Looking to upgrade my Video card and I need help!! Motherboard Gigabyte AMD FX 8350 (Current video card {1G VRAM} in PCIEX16 named slot) Desktop/tower set up. Looking to buy a 3G or 4G VRAM capable from Newegg.

[whole girder]

FX8350 will bottleneck pretty much most gpus you try to upgrade to

[zinc root]

Running NEW World and I get the min fail message. It will still run but it's laggy and delayed rendering is an issue

[fossil cedar]

I would advise not playing that

[zinc root]

ha!

[whole girder]

new world kills gpus

[fossil cedar]

Has literally killed graphics cards

[fossil cedar]

Not a joke lol

[tawny lava]

I recently picked up a 3070 ti FE on a Best Buy drop. With the hardest part out of the way I need to start a build. I would prefer to go with an AMD build and wonder where I should start.

[whole girder]

what gen of Ryzen are you looking for?

[fossil cedar]

Whats your budget?

[tawny lava]

This is a completely new build and I am not brining forward any parts but maybe a case and Windows 10 license

[fossil cedar]

Not a valid q any ryzen but buying Ryzen 5000 is invalid in 2021

[whole girder]

can still go with ryzen 3000 to save a bit of money

[serene pulsar]

This is good aye @fossil cedar

[tawny lava]

The budget is kind of up in the air. I dont plan to stream but I do want it as a gaming PC for my son and I

[fossil cedar]

Lmao nooooo 3600 is the price of a 5600x

[whole girder]

well maybe not then lmao

just grab a 5600X and a decent b550 board and your laughing

[fossil cedar]

Do you have a ball park of how much you'd like to spend?

[serene pulsar]

any opinions on my build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rwrsqp

[tawny lava]

I guess my question is what am I getting with a 5800 vs a 5600 other than more cores or future proofing

[whole girder]

amd is moving to a new socket for the next gen of Ryzen i think so in the long run its not gonna matter

if your just gaming you dont really need more than the 5600X unless you plan on using a monster gpu

[fossil cedar]

Good, I'd go with the msi gaming edge wifi personally but yeah looks good

[serene pulsar]

So a change up in the mobo

[tawny lava]

I have been out of the PC building game for a while. What do I need to know about AMD motherboards. I am planning on using PCIe gen 4 for SSD.

[serene pulsar]

Ya know I’m real stuck on whether I should buy these parts and wait for gpu prices or get the gpu first

[fossil cedar]

Wellllll 5600x and 5800x are extremely close in gaming so unless they will be doing heavy multi tasking or rendering or just want a bit of a more premium feel or things like that I'd go 5600x

[fossil cedar]

Well 1 don't bother with gen 4 ssds, the marketed speeds are sequential which is only used when transferring large files, what you want is random performance which is what you'll notice in day to day

[fossil cedar]

For the motherboard side, get a decent b550 for a cheaper better motherboard than x570 like 90% off the time

[fossil cedar]

Not necessary but just bit of preference

[fossil cedar]

100% get the gpu first otherwise if you have a dead on arrival part your screwed

[tawny lava]

I know at this point the graphics card you can get for a decent price is most of the decision. Was picking up a 3070ti Founders Edition a bad card to pick up?

[fossil cedar]

Nope, getting a founder edition from best buy is fantastic

[tawny lava]

I keep reading that 3070 Ti from a benchmark and price perspective isn't a great buy but I picked it up for MSRP which was lucky I think.

[earnest olive]

$600?

at $600 it is good

[fossil cedar]

Any gpu at msrp is ppl just don't like it because it's basically a 3070 for an extra 100$ in theory

[feral bobcat]

YOU TECH GUY ARE SO COOL

THANKS!

[fossil cedar]

Np

[earnest olive]

I agree pato is cool

imo 3070ti is worse than 3070

[feral bobcat]

but prices of the new egg is too high

[earnest olive]

sure you get 3-5% more performance but at 40% more power draw and you have to worry about gddr6x being gddr6x

on the FE cooler you might even need to do a repad just for gaming lol

[fossil cedar]

Well just buy from newegg where its the same price as other sites or cheaper, that's what we have pc part picker for tho :)

[earnest olive]

dual slot dual fan card trying to dissipate 300W with gddr6x

and if you decide to mine on it to help recoup the cost that +40% power draw becomes +100% power draw

[tawny lava]

what does repad mean? Also how is it a 40% increase in power draw?

[earnest olive]

I wouldn't be surprised if mem junct temp could exceed 100c just during gaming

[earnest olive]

saying the 3070ti uses 40% more power than the 3070

repadding means disassembling the card to put on better thermal pads

I did it to my 3080 that was hitting 110c mem junction

https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/368582.535d7029802317a1bdc145a1882ca3c8.1600.jpg

https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/368582.6a0fa49af82c11ca79e544a31e4e074d.1600.jpg

[tawny lava]

Should I stick to a CPU air cooler. I ask because the the graphics card is gonna blow all the heat over my memory. Or can I rely on more fans up front of the case.

[earnest olive]

if you're not doing ram overclocking then it doesn't matter if your graphics card is blowing on it

no reason to care about ram temps unless you're tightening tRFC/tREFI and running >1.5v

[whole girder]

my 3070ti hasnt overheated at all

[earnest olive]

is it a founder's

what mem junction temp are you getting at what fan speed

[earnest olive]

lol

a strix

you better hope a strix isn't overheating

[whole girder]

it was one of the only 3070s in stock

[earnest olive]

your card is like double the size of the founder's edition

[fossil cedar]

Whichever, if you're going 5600x I'd go air or aio but if you're going 5800x I'd go aio

[whole girder]

it doesnt go much over 60c

[fossil cedar]

Well duhhhh

[earnest olive]

mem junct is probably higher than 60c lol

even after modding the 3080 mem junct will still creep up to 90c sometimes

x)

but like

[whole girder]

never really thought to look for those temps tbh

[earnest olive]

you have the BEST model of 3070ti

and we're talking about one of the worst

[whole girder]

fair

[earnest olive]

even in gaming I saw the 3080 hitting 106-108c mem junction before repadding

lol

and that's with a larger 3 slot 3 fan cooler at 100% fan speed

[feral bobcat]

thanks guys

[earnest olive]

gigabyte was universally slammed for their terrible stock thermal pads

[feral bobcat]

warning: 10 gb ram of 3080 is not enough for far cry 6

[tawny lava]

I am considering going with the 5600X with the stock cooler to start. Them maybe later getting an AIO.

it comes with a cooler that is supposed to be decent. I don't plan on overclocking initially.

[earnest olive]

sounds fine as long as you stick to gaming at stock

decent is a strong word

the stock cooler was decent on older gens

but now zen 3 runs much hotter and they haven't upgraded the stock cooler

it'll stop it from melting, that's about it

[tawny lava]

With the 5600X being a step down on TDP compared to 5800 I figured it would be decently cool

[earnest olive]

funny they actually downgraded the stock cooler from the 2600x

the 2600x stock cooler had a copper core

[earnest olive]

tdp doesn't mean much

[fossil cedar]

I would highly recommend investigating in at least a 30$ cooler for that, tdp doesn't actually mean much for thermal output these days, 5600x is a toasty boi

[earnest olive]

anyways it depends on what you do with it

gaming at stock will be ok

but I've gotten 5600x to hit 85c+ with a 360mm aio and just PBO no manual overclocking

in a mesh case with 7 fans going at 100%

prime95 is fun for stressing your cooler to the limit lol

[tawny lava]

If I see a decent black friday deal then I might pick up AIO.

[earnest olive]

your plan is fine

but the stock cooler cannot really be called decent anymore

"usable" at best

[tawny lava]

32GB of memory shold get me by but is AMD picky about what brands are.

[earnest olive]

not really

that was the case for like, ryzen 1000

ram compatibility is totally fine now

I've done maybe 30 ryzen builds and never had an issue with ram compatibility

never even looked at the compatibility lists

as long as it's ddr4, it'll work

[fossil cedar]

Tbh 16gb will be plenty for gaming

But get 3600cl16

[earnest olive]

get 32gb if you don't plan to upgrade for a decent amount of time imo

I think 32gb will be the baseline for ddr5

so in a couple of years maybe 16gb won't be aging as well as it has so far

32gb isn't pricey anymore

[tawny lava]

any issues with starting with dual channel 16 GB (2x8GB) now and adding another 16GB later

[earnest olive]

well, xmp might stop working

that's about it

if you buy a kit with different ICs, xmp has pretty much a 100% chance to stop working

if you buy a kit with same ICs, there's still a chance for xmp to stop working

[fossil cedar]

Yeah imo just get ballistix 3600, very likely will be the same ic if you want to buy more

[tawny lava]

Lower CL is better correct? I am on PCPartPicker getting a build ready. Lots of options for 3600 and above memory. I know people like the Trident Royal for the wow factor but what are the better brands for good performance.

[fossil cedar]

Yes lower cl is better

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix is great and usually the cheapest and best upgrade wise

[tawny lava]

I am seeing lots of reviews for Trident Z Neo. A little bit of color on what looks like some high performing RAM.

[fallen cloud]

so i guess i can ask build questions here

[fossil cedar]

Trident z 3600cl16 is fine but way more expensive for a not as good ram mit

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you can

[fallen cloud]

alr

[frank stirrup]

I get day after tomorrow

:(

[fossil cedar]

Pog

Why not yesterday

[fallen cloud]

so i have a friend that wants to make a $1500 build, is it ok to try to get a 1070 or 980 ti secondhand?

[frank stirrup]

Because people in my state decided they striking

[tawny lava]

@fossil cedar so your pick for something with better performance would be?

[frank stirrup]

Ballistix 3600c16

[fossil cedar]

3600 ballistix

[fossil cedar]

Boof

[frank stirrup]

Yea

So they shipped today

And it arrives day after

[fossil cedar]

Uhh as a placeholder?? Cuz you can easily just get a 3060 ti prebuilt for 1300

Or a custom build for 1500

[earnest olive]

you aiming way too low for 1500

[frank stirrup]

For custom i would aim for 3070 in that budget

3080 if ur good at deal hunting

[earnest olive]

it you want to custom build and don't want to spend the time hunting for a gpu at MSRP you should look at a 3060ti LHR for 750

if you want to put in the time to get a GPU at MSRP, 3070/3080 is doable in $1500

[frank stirrup]

I feel ignored

[earnest olive]

same

[fallen cloud]

huh

[earnest olive]

it's really not hard to fit a scalped 3060ti into a $1500 budget

[frank stirrup]

Yeh but ur hot so its fine

[earnest olive]

they're $750 on r/hws

[feral bobcat]

no one is home on #peripherals-and-displays

[earnest olive]

I only go to general, build chat, and overclocking

[feral bobcat]

best gaming keyboard with wrist rest please

[tawny lava]

I found a 32 GB Ballistix kit as a placeholder. I may half the memory if I over budget. What kind of storage do I want? I don't want to overpay but I would hate for saving money there be my bottleneck when gaming.

[earnest olive]

I don't know anything about keyboards

[frank stirrup]

Speeds?

[frank stirrup]

Same. All i know is clicky key good

[tawny lava]

I went with a 3600 16CL like yall suggested. comes to like $170 I think.

[earnest olive]

just get a 1tb nvme for $90 and you chillin

[feral bobcat]

corsair, razer or steelseries?

[earnest olive]

I just have a prebuilt keyboard covered in custom keycaps my gf made lol

[feral bobcat]

i also need backlits

[frank stirrup]

Weak. Real men use a 5$ membrane keyboard because they blew all their money on the pc itself because parts in their country are overpriced to all hell.

[feral bobcat]

any one knows about roccat

[fossil cedar]

Place holder??? 32gb is definitely future proof for gaming

[fallen cloud]

umm if you don't need the tactile feedback i would aim for cherry mx reds

[earnest olive]

even my mom has a $40 rgb keyboard

[fallen cloud]

if you do care, get brown switches

[earnest olive]

my mom is kind of an epic gamer

[fallen cloud]

epic

[frank stirrup]

Yeah rub it in why dont you

:'(

[earnest olive]

bro

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-cry-sad-tears-upset-gif-11667710

[earnest olive]

I'll trade you a keyboard for some butter chicken

PLEASE

I'll trade you one of my 3070s too while I'm at it

[feral bobcat]

your mom? epic gamer?

[frank stirrup]

I like this deal

[fallen cloud]

@frank stirrup i will give you a keyboard for a 6 piece chicken nugget

[earnest olive]

dude I miss butter chicken so bad I think I'd trade a 3070 for some

[feral bobcat]

😭

[frank stirrup]

Bro i can teach you how to make butter chicken

Its not too dificult

[feral bobcat]

go on

[earnest olive]

lol my mom doesn't want me to try making indian food

smells too strong in the kitchen

[frank stirrup]

Sadge

[tawny lava]

If I go over budget I would cut here first. If I have the budget I may just spring for the 3800X and drop the RAM initially.

[earnest olive]

why 3800x

[fossil cedar]

3800x is frankly an awful backup

[frank stirrup]

But fr sippy guess how much i paid for all that

[tawny lava]

Sorry I meant 5800X

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhhh i thought you meant you wanted more lol

[tawny lava]

I am getting all my speed numbers mixed up with my model numbers

[fossil cedar]

Well if getting 5800x you'll definitely need to buy a good cooler

[feral bobcat]

cooler master psu!?

[fossil cedar]

It's fine lol

[earnest olive]

what size is the ssd I can't read it

[fossil cedar]

Good psu

[frank stirrup]

500

[earnest olive]

okay

[feral bobcat]

i'm boon tobias about it

[earnest olive]

well in the US all that would be roughly 580 after tax

[frank stirrup]

Also 16 gb ballistix 3600

[earnest olive]

soooo

oh

[frank stirrup]

That havent arrived yet

[earnest olive]

then 670 after tax

so for you maybe

[feral bobcat]

what cat breed is this

[earnest olive]

75k inr

[frank stirrup]

Very close

68k

[earnest olive]

ah

so 900 usd

[frank stirrup]

Took me 3 days of deal hunting and visiting shops throughout the city

And i live in a large city

Its worse in other places

[frank stirrup]

Yeah approx.

[earnest olive]

I kind of want to build a pc in china lol

watching linus build a pc in china was interesting

[frank stirrup]

300$ 11500 was surprising honestly

I was expecting a lot worse

[earnest olive]

oh right that's an 11500 not an 11400

that would be more like 700 after tax in the US if 11500 was at msrp

it basically doesn't exist so

[frank stirrup]

Yeah thats an advantage of living in an underdeveloped country

Things are always in stock because people are too poor to buy them

[earnest olive]

lol

ryzen 3 3300x was apparently quite common in india

I had to buy some 3100s because 3300x doesn't exist here

[frank stirrup]

Oh btw did i tell you i saw like 20-30 3070s in stock on shelves in one of the shops i visited

[frank stirrup]

Yeh

[tawny lava]

WD Black SN750 overkill for Gaming build?

[earnest olive]

how much were they though

[frank stirrup]

1.4k usd

[earnest olive]

if by overkill you mean worse than the hynix gold p31 then sure

[frank stirrup]

All were msi models too

[earnest olive]

yikes, they'd probably be sitting on the shelves at 1.4k in the US too

3070s aren't hard to find for 850-900 here

[frank stirrup]

3060 for a low low price of 950$

[fossil cedar]

It's just not a great ssd in terms of rand especially for the price, I'd recommend mushkin pilot e or sk hynix p31 gold

[earnest olive]

$950 for a 3060

stop

it hurts

[frank stirrup]

Oh btw sippy wanna hear something worse?

[earnest olive]

no

[tough shell]

The bottom one is what I use now, the top is my new stuff. Any issue if I use the new one with the old one?

[frank stirrup]

The prices woulda been the same even without gpu shortage

[earnest olive]

xmp might stop working

[earnest olive]

alright that's it

I'm buying india right now

and injecting it with PC parts

[tough shell]

Even with both being xmp 2.0 enabled?

[earnest olive]

xmp profile is rated for the kit as is

[frank stirrup]

Last year pre gpu shortage, 2060 was for 600 usd

[earnest olive]

2x8 and 4x8 are not the same thing

it might work, it might not

you can try it

[tough shell]

Hmm

[frank stirrup]

And 2080 was like 1500 usd

[tough shell]

Would it damage anything if it doesnt work? Or just disable xmp automatically?

[fossil cedar]

Different dies, you might have issues

[fossil cedar]

No damage

[tough shell]

So ill be safe to try it and see what happens? Whats the worst that can happen?

[earnest olive]

xmp can stop working with same dies too

[tough shell]

And do I need xmp? What does it do for me?

[fossil cedar]

You bought an extra kit of ram for no point

[earnest olive]

the worst that can happen is that your data and OS install gets corrupted

[fossil cedar]

Make your ram not work at 2133mhz

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah that too

[fossil cedar]

Ik but more likely to work with same dies

[earnest olive]

I've killed 4 windows installs with unstable ram so far

[tough shell]

Had looked at it and was 99.99% sure it was the same, get it, and then nop

[earnest olive]

[earnest olive]

even if it's the same it's not a 100% chance of working

[tough shell]

So I should get another of the same ram before I use the new stuff?

[fossil cedar]

There's no way of telling before looking at the stick of ram anyway sooo

[earnest olive]

am I invisible

[tough shell]

No

[earnest olive]

[tough shell]

Lol

[earnest olive]

running 4 sticks is harder than running 2 sticks

[fossil cedar]

Did someone say something

[earnest olive]

yeah

I said pato you're banned

[tough shell]

Lol

Clapped

[fossil cedar]

10900 should handle 4 sticks tho

[earnest olive]

I mean

[fossil cedar]

[earnest olive]

yes

there's a high chance of it working

but not 100%

the IMC is unlikely to be the bottleneck

[tough shell]

If I get the same type or if I use what I have rn and my old stuff you mean? Sorry

[earnest olive]

more likely to be the dimms themselves

dude I said this like what 4 times now

[tough shell]

Im sorry

.<

[earnest olive]

even if it's the same ram it is not a 100% chance of working

[tough shell]

Ok

Imma try it then

[earnest olive]

because 4 sticks is harder to run than 2

[tough shell]

If the windows install corrupts ill just need to do a windows reinstall?

[earnest olive]

it can also corrupt your data if you run unstable ram

unlikely but possible

[tough shell]

Hmm.

Good to know

[earnest olive]

most people who are serious about overclocking ram have a dedicated SSD with a sacrificial windows install on it

and nothing else

[tough shell]

And how do I tell if its unstable? Just try it?

[earnest olive]

run stress tests

[tough shell]

Any issues would pop up as a memory error would it?

[fossil cedar]

Stress test with occt or test mem 5 extreme anta then if you see an error, stop asap and run the commands/bat file in pins of #windows-ios

[earnest olive]

yes memory error

[tough shell]

Lmfao

My current ram does that

🥲

[earnest olive]

[fossil cedar]

[earnest olive]

set vccio/vccsa 1.15v and try again

[tough shell]

Been using it for a while now and its like nope

[earnest olive]

hope you don't keep anything important on that pc then

[tough shell]

Ill try that but idk how to do it @ orange

[earnest olive]

file operations go through ram

[tough shell]

Only all my schoolwork

[earnest olive]

if you get a bit flip in your family photos have fun finding it

[fossil cedar]

Imma leave this one to you sips, enjoy :p

[earnest olive]

I gotta go drive soon though

👁️

[fossil cedar]

[earnest olive]

get back here

bad techie

sit

stay

[fossil cedar]

No

[frank stirrup]

If i was techie i would stay to help

Thats all im saying

[potent portal]

What do we need a techie for?

[earnest olive]

you get watchlist

[tawny lava]

So 3x NVME is fine for gaming then? I see the SN850 is like $30 more than P31 Gold

[potent portal]

You could do that and it'll work, but keep in mind about 98% of games won't use any speeds faster than sata

[tawny lava]

Whats the limiting factor then? If games are slow what is the point using the NVMe at all then?

[potent portal]

Windows likes faster access times

[tough shell]

Well, at the very least, it worked to boot up my pc

@earnest olive

[stoic island]

Directio should be coming, but have been in the 'should be coming' phase for a while now

[fossil cedar]

P31 better for regular user

[potent portal]

Games still have to implement it once it launches, but yes for future proofing nvme is nice

[fossil cedar]

Now run occt mem test or test mem 5 extreme anta

[stoic island]

But anyways faster rnd means faster load times and access times and such

[tough shell]

My pc temps get too high. Reach like 85

[stoic island]

But it can't fix windows search being dumb

[potent portal]

85 is within spec

[fossil cedar]

85 isn't too high and has nothing to do with ram?

[stoic island]

Also, what temp is going to 85c

[tough shell]

Ohh thought u meant stress test whole thing

Im big dumb

[stoic island]

85c CPU fine

85c GPU hot

[tough shell]

Ye

Was gpu

So cancelled that quick

Normally the highest it gets it 65

[fossil cedar]

You were running mem stress test and gpu was getting hot ;-;

[stoic island]

Just gonna ignore that for now because annoying, but 85c quite high for gpu

[tough shell]

Idles at like 30-40

[stoic island]

Anyways

Tm5 anta777

[tough shell]

Nop, thought he meant test everything sry. Im dumb dumb

Whats that? The test I should run?

[stoic island]

Testmem5 with anta777 config

[fossil cedar]

Not like ive said that 3 time or anything ;-;

[tough shell]

and where do I go to download that?

[fossil cedar]

Google test mem 5

[stoic island]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[tough shell]

and what point should I know if I need to cancel it?

[stoic island]

It'll crash

[tough shell]

well, can't even open it lmfao

its a rar file

[stoic island]

Or the errors section will say

[fossil cedar]

1 error= fail

[stoic island]

Use 7zip

WinRAR suck

[tough shell]

well, gimme a bit. need to find a 7zip of it

[stoic island]

What

7zip is a program

That is capable of opening rar files

For free

[tough shell]

oh

o.o

do I run the executable before I use TM5 on it?

the 7zip exe*

[stoic island]

Prob need to install 7zip

[tough shell]

I just did

[stoic island]

And when they ask you how you want to open the rar file

Say 7zip

[tough shell]

comes up with 7zFM.exe and 7zG.exe

[potent portal]

7zfm

[tough shell]

as soon as I load TM5 will it start testing?

and it already ran tests 0-5 once, how long/many cycles should I test for?

[potent portal]

It'll tell you when it's done

But you'll want to load the anta777 extreme config

[tough shell]

oh, it doesn't automatically load it?

[potent portal]

It loads a default profile to start

[tough shell]

ahh

how do I load the config? do I need to install something else?

[potent portal]

There's a button there that says load config

Then when it exits, load it again and it should say anta777 extreme instead of default

[tough shell]

where do I find the anta777 config? It's not in my files

[potent portal]

It should have come with the program

[tough shell]

found it

well, now we wait

[potent portal]

Yep. Grab some lunch, it'll be a while

[tough shell]

oki

its normal to use 30.9/31.9gb for the test right?

[potent portal]

Yes

[tough shell]

thought so

[potent portal]

That way it tests all the memory

[tough shell]

good stuff, talk to ya in a bit

if you don't hear from me you know what happened

.<

And @fossil cedar sorry, I just get nervous with this stuff cause its a good chunk of money :/

[earnest olive]

I mean there is zero risk of hardware damage here

[fossil cedar]

^

[earnest olive]

the worst you can do is break the software side

[little osprey]

i broke the first 3 computers i had

well technically the first 2, + the DS Lite i had before that

I was like 5, and I put my DS under a running faucet to try and clean it LOL

[tough shell]

If im right, itll have to cycle four times since I have 4 sticks of ram right? @potent portal

[potent portal]

Depending on how much memory it can take 2-8 hours

[fossil cedar]

It will stop when it's finished anyway, will take a few hours

[potent portal]

With 32gb you can expect at least 3

[tough shell]

Kk

[fossil cedar]

32gb takes about 2-3 hours usually

[tough shell]

Sounds good. Imma go have a nap lol

[potent portal]

If it's overclocked yeah, were they at stock or overclocking?

[fossil cedar]

Xmp 3200cl16

[tough shell]

Im not oc’ed

[potent portal]

Probably closer to 3 then

[tough shell]

Oki

[fossil cedar]

Technically xmp is oc

[tough shell]

Oh 😮

[potent portal]

If you ask intel yeah

[tough shell]

Should I have all other processes closed while its running

[fossil cedar]

Nah it's fine

[potent portal]

Ideally yes but it doesn't make a difference in practice

[desert gulch]

I can verify this

xmp is oc

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[potent portal]

I... guess that's technically what I said so yeah

[desert gulch]

Yup

[clever eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/890413487216525332/unknown.png

[tough shell]

OOF

[marble whale]

Is this good?
Im trging to install windows 10

[obsidian wigeon]

disable secure boot in your bios

the win 10 image you're using probably wasn't made for secure boot

[blazing aurora]

wrong ping my friend

[tough shell]

wrong @ sorry >.<

[blazing aurora]

all good my man

[tough shell]

@earnest olive @potent portal I should be good to go now?

[earnest olive]

most likely

[tough shell]

pog

[earnest olive]

anta777 extreme1 isn't 100%

but you'll probably be fine

[tough shell]

Sounds good

thanks :]

[stoic island]

it's like 98%

[kind vortex]

me 99%

build me a pc (also 700$ now 😎 )

[little osprey]

sure

GT 710

ryzen 9 3950x

13GB of ram

800W great wall PSU

rasperry pi

[obsidian wigeon]

1200w dell server psu

they cheap

[kind vortex]

why

WHYYYY

[little osprey]

is something wrong

[kind vortex]

hmmm gt 710 is not bad

BUT IT BADDDD

[little osprey]

what do you mean? it beats the 3080 by 5-6%

when you turn the resolution down to 1x1

[kind vortex]

bruh

[strange heath]

Hi, new guy here. I need some help. I have acquired several used GPUs. My plan was to experiment with an open rig. I bought a 10-GPU rack, risers and PSUs. I think I made a mistake buying the motherboards. The first ones I ordered came back cancelled due to availability and I did not pay close attention when I replaced the order. The motherboards I bought are extra wide and designed to operate without risers and look ideal for a case setup. SOOOO. I would like to buy cases that fit this new style motherboard and get the right motherboard to fit into the open rig racks I bought. Can you point me in the right direction??? Please. Here are the motherboards I bought: BTC-D37. and the cases were: lzndeal Stackable

[little osprey]

"experiment with an open rig" "10-GPU rack"

sounds like mining 🤔

anyway, you're looking for a case that can fit the motherboard then? Do you know the dimensions of the board? It's not any standard form factor right

[odd crypt]

Hey is there any good gpus out there under 250$?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, used that is

You can get like 980 or something

[odd crypt]

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

At hardware swap on reddit and such

Yeah, gpu market's pretty bad atm

[strange heath]

I added the description of the board and rack. Motherboard is 554*195mm

[obsidian wigeon]

Back then a 1660 super was possible

[odd crypt]

I thought gpus were starting to go back down to msrp

[strange heath]

Yes, I have bought a bunch of miners, but also some loose cards. Trying to purpose them.

[worn wave]

No lol

GPU price is expected to stay crappy throughout most of 2022

[odd crypt]

Mind if I ask which cards? I might wanna buy 1 of u

[odd crypt]

Oh this is very sad

[strange heath]

Some AMD 580. Nvidia 1070, 1080

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh, this server has a no selling rule too

[odd crypt]

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

And those cards usually go over 250 easily anyway

[strange heath]

Not looking to sell. I want to buy the right stuff from NewEgg

[obsidian wigeon]

Not usually, always

[odd crypt]

I might have to wait till microcenter honestly

Get a 1650 4gb

[obsidian wigeon]

ehhh

i would instead go used

1650 for 250, big no

[odd crypt]

Hm would u mind helping me find the right card?

[little osprey]

dang thats huge

[odd crypt]

If so here is what I got so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYLXxc

[little osprey]

I dont have any cases in mind that might fit it besides some large full-towers

[obsidian wigeon]

I can't really help rn

But r/hardwareswap should have some deals somewhere

[odd crypt]

I might try that

[spice prairie]

If i make an upgrade to a ryzen 9 5950x will my 280mm rad be enough?

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your current specs?

which aio ya got too

[spice prairie]

Intel i7 10700k. Nzxt mb. Nzxt 280 radiator. 3070 vision oc. Lian li al120/al140 fans in a lian li mini

[little osprey]

yea that should handle it no problem

[jovial blaze]

Hello everyone. By any chance would any of you be able to help me diagnose a power up issue on my build?

[kind vortex]

cool

[vague oracle]

Why do you want to upgrade to a 5950x?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

It's not worth it

If you're gonna upgrade, wait for zen 4

[vague oracle]

Or 12th gen inte

[obsidian wigeon]

might actually be beaten by zen 4

idk

next gen gonna be zen 3+

[covert vapor]

What? I thought the talk about Zen 3+ was proven to be fake and that it isn't a thing? Did some new info come out recently?

[spice prairie]

When is zen 4 supposed to be expected?

Idk much about ryzen tbh. Gonna end my relationship with intel after years

[earnest olive]

damn, you were dating Intel?

every single employee at the same time or what

[spice prairie]

Yes, i always stayed loyal my brotha

I just need a cpu with a high core count rn

[little osprey]

haswell xeon

[frank stirrup]

?

[little osprey]

[spice prairie]

I have no money for xeon cpu

[frank stirrup]

thats why old xeon

cheap on ebay

[little osprey]

muahahaha

[obsidian wigeon]

^

or aliexpress

[little osprey]

ebay usually has the same or better prices

@spice prairie https://www.ebay.com/itm/185063168676?

[spice prairie]

I might still get that ryzen 9

[little osprey]

if im being honest there's no reason for you to invest in this platform considering you already have a 10700k, that's not far behind this CPU in terms of multi-core performance

[little osprey]

yea it might be better in your case to go for that lol

[earnest olive]

run 2 10700K in SLI

easy

[little osprey]

facts

[earnest olive]

16 cores

anyways what do you do with your pc

[little osprey]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/572309443886740/ LOL I LOVE SATIRICAL POSTS

"dont low ball me i know what i have" "minor damage"

[spice prairie]

Rendering 3d scans

[earnest olive]

did he put it in a blender?

[drifting timber]

how often do you all dust clean your pc

[frank stirrup]

whenever I see dust on my intake mesh

[drifting timber]

what kind of cpu cooling do you have?

[little osprey]

it almsot looks like it got shot or something lol

[frank stirrup]

decent enough

air cooler

[drifting timber]

ohh

[frank stirrup]

doesnt matter tho since im talking about case fans

[drifting timber]

yeah

[spice prairie]

Almost everyday. OCD

[feral bobcat]

hi

is it good

https://cherryamericas.com/cherry-mx-board-3-0-s.html

https://us.testseek.com/computers/input-devices/keyboards/cherry-mx-board-3.0s-rgb-p-08f1d86c-9b71-6897-e8ce-33f23c7f6828.html

testseek is metacritic of hardware

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't do cherry mx board

just do keychron

[feral bobcat]

why

[obsidian wigeon]

Keychron's cheaper

iirc

And it's like as good

[feral bobcat]

it's high score: https://qpad.com/product/qpadmk75/

[obsidian wigeon]

keychron has 100% keyboards for half the price

not worth gettin the mx

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32294075072601

like this for example

[feral bobcat]

thank you sir

full black wired full keys please

[obsidian wigeon]

They don't have full black, sadly

[feral bobcat]

its ok just wired

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what switch option is better

[obsidian wigeon]

Depends on your needs

Red is silent, no tactile bump

Brown has tactile bump, quieter than blue

Blue is clickly and has bump

[feral bobcat]

for gaming, Which is softer and gives a better feeling

[obsidian wigeon]

Gaming? Red would suit you the best

Or brown, if you want tactile bump

But red is the fastest switch, cause it lacks the bump

Blue is clickly, loud

[lyric thistle]

Reds just make you misclick all the time

[fossil cedar]

Tbh just pick the switch you like the most