building-and-recc-chat

[drowsy spear]

It is just in responsive

[clever eagle]

hmm

power supply?

[proud galleon]

rm750x

[obsidian wigeon]

that's not the issue tbh

[clever eagle]

yea i figured

[proud galleon]

driver change didnt help

every game in the menu alone is running below 20 fps or in that area

so confusing

the 3070 is detected by everything im wondering if there some kind of connection issue

its fully utilized in task manager as well

[clever eagle]

show photo of ur graphics card in ur pc

im being braindead rn

[proud galleon]

it’s a bit dark in the case atm but:

it was lit up before i turned aura lighting off

so i was under the impression it was connected fine

[clever eagle]

is it connected with 2 pcie cables or 1

im pretty blind

[proud galleon]

1 pcie cable

2 cable extensions

[clever eagle]

use two

[proud galleon]

was thinking about trying thag

i’ll test it quick

[clever eagle]

ok

[proud galleon]

fps still plummets

i think my issue from earlier might be possible

when i seat the gpu in the pcie slot, it clicks in

the left side of it is easily pulled out from the slot

my friend told me this was the case with his and he has 0 issues but im wondering if this should not be the case here

[clever eagle]

hmm

what driver version

[proud galleon]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/180223/en-us

started with most recent

and then went back to this version per suggestion

and neither have done the trick

[clever eagle]

hmm

[proud galleon]

i have a sneaky feeling it’s my gpu not seated properly on my mobo

[kind vortex]

look fine to me

[little osprey]

Whitch is better case Deepcool MATREXX mesh 4F or Cooler Master MasterBox TD500?

[obsidian wigeon]

Just get a 4000D or P400A digital ngl

[fossil cedar]

4000d airflow*

Td500 mesh is a good option but the non mesh is
https://c.tenor.com/RvWIf6kYd0oAAAAM/thumbs-down-you.gif

[trail elbow]

Need a build for my friend budget 1,300 USD Country: USA i dont care if the parts aren't easily obtainable.

[obsidian wigeon]

ez

A prebuilt

It sadly is like that to get best value lol

[fossil cedar]

Can they stretch to 1350? https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 cuz this v nicr

[trail elbow]

can u make one with the prices of the parts as MSRP i know a guy that sales a bunch of parts at a MSRP price thats why i said idc if they arent easily available

[fossil cedar]

If they can't stretch to 1350 https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194?itemPosition=1-11&exactIndex=0

[trail elbow]

didnt see u

mb

[fossil cedar]

Unless they sell gpus that's the only problem with building atm

Rest of parts are fine

[trail elbow]

he does

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189

or dis

oh wait

[fossil cedar]

You know they legit?

[obsidian wigeon]

Same one as pato posted ree

[fossil cedar]

Hehe

[trail elbow]

yes ive been freinds for 12 years

bough atleast a dozen of card from him

[fossil cedar]

Okay then 1 sec

[trail elbow]

all real\

[fossil cedar]

@trail elbow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8JPRT

[trail elbow]

sick thank you

[fossil cedar]

Np

[analog pulsar]

what makes a case have good airflow likw how can you tell by looking at pics

[obsidian wigeon]

Fan mounting points, vents and how they're arranged

[analog pulsar]

someone wanted to buy this what you think

[little osprey]

I wouldn't

It's an okay case, but for that price there are definitely better options

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a bleh case

No airflow

[little osprey]

It's relatively ok airflow-wise, it's not that bad, but like I said, there's better options

Insert corsair 4000d airflow suggestion here

I wish the meshify 2 xl was still 130 bucks

[fossil cedar]

@analog pulsar that case looks overpriced and meh, if you want that just get a p400a digital or p500a digital

[analog pulsar]

yea they were only look at 3 cases but we talked to them i think they are gunna get 11od

this case but not XL

[obsidian wigeon]

ehh

it's meh tbh unless you go custom loop

[stark steppe]

Oi Oi

Got a question for you uber-experienced builders

I'm buying on a pretty strict budget here, and I was wondering what the cheapest graphics card is that I could get while still being able to run more graphics intensive games (new MW, Halo, yknow, the beefy ones)

[obsidian wigeon]

What's your budget?

[stark steppe]

Less than 500

Legit i just wanna be able to play some of the prettier games like subnautica on better settings than trash

cuz my laptop can barely run youtube on full frames

[obsidian wigeon]

Whelp

That's sad but all I can say is save up at these hard times

Unless you get lucky with used parts

[jagged ember]

500 is not gonna work now for graphically intense games

Unless you're like really lucky yeah

[halcyon mist]

Does this seem like a good prebuild? Also can someone recommend a good cpu cooler apparently the one that comes with it ain't good

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala253/p/N82E16883360157?item=N82E16883360157

[glacial umbra]

anyone know if the Acer 27" XZ270U is decent? it's on sale for cheaper than the M27Q so it piqued my interest but I'm not great with monitors

[topaz kestrel]

seems overpriced imo, ask pato for ideas lol

.

[fossil cedar]

Just for the gpu or for the whole pc?

[topaz kestrel]

whole pc i assume

[scenic rock]

Prices are so dumb rn

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala254/p/N82E16883360158?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=4 just get this or this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 orhttps://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1

[thick rock]

ok so i have 16 gigs of ram and having 20 chrome tabs open fricken eats up 14 gigs so Ima get 32 gigs of ram and im wondering what sticks of ram would be good for a fast 32 gig on a slight budget?

[halcyon mist]

Ill get the first one, thank u

[topaz kestrel]

Crucial Balistix

[thick rock]

ty ill check it out

[vague oracle]

Crucial Ballistix

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

If you're going to buy a new kit, depends on cpu, if you're going to add instead of replace buy the exact same kit you have rn

[quaint swan]

Yo does it matter if the things that holds the cpu in was a bit off center?

[vague oracle]

That’s fine

[topaz kestrel]

If all the pins are in then no

[vague oracle]

That’s just how the mobo was designed

[quaint swan]

Ok

[humble rock]

@quaint swan tell me how that cpu runs when u get it going I was thinking about getting a 10850 k

[celest horizon]

They're decent for the price

[quaint swan]

Ok. I got one for 300 at micro center I think that under msrp

I’m new to PCs so I only vaguely know how to put one together

[jagged ember]

You can just look up benchmarks

[formal girder]

Just dont use ubm

[full inlet]

yo

I have a friend that wants to build a pc

here is his current list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqMDGq

[drowsy spear]

Can someone help me?

[formal girder]

Saying can someone help me doesnt help yourself or use if you dont just ask the question

But what seems to be the issue

[marble gust]

@drowsy spear I recommend watching youtube videos of PC building from Paul's Hardware and others. They are detailed, also, recommend reading/using Motherboard manual

[kind vortex]

gotta say for 750$ that is good

[drowsy spear]

Thanks

[vale epoch]

Is the msi creator good for studying work and some light gaming lets say assasins creed valhalla or forza for an hour a day

[vale epoch]

Nvm

Looks like my options for laptops good dor both work and gaming are limited

I might just get a macbook

Once the 16 inch model comes out

[obsidian wigeon]

I have literally suggested you a laptop like a while ago

I still wonder why haven't you decided lmao

[dusky hearth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YFWwRT i made some changes to the list, i changed the cpu cooler so it was $10 cheaper (i felt like using an aio for this was not very necessary), changed the motherboard because you might need to flash the bios, and the old one didnt have a bios flashback option. the one i chose also has more io (i think)
i also changed the storage a bit, added a hdd too for mass storage for a total of 2.5tb storage (2tb hdd, 500gb ssd)
and finally i changed the psu to something that i would trust more when compared to that brand that i was unfamiliar with
the price did raise by like $100, but if they dont need 2tb mass storage, they can buy the hdd at a later date, or maybe they can buy some other drive if they feel like it at a later date

[obsidian wigeon]

It's necessary imo

psu ew ngl

[dusky hearth]

old one was even more questionable, and i tried to keep the price low lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

tho that aio sucks lol, so it's wise swap

just realized

[vale epoch]

My parents say get a macbook pro

[obsidian wigeon]

it loves to leak

well if you game a macbook is death

[dusky hearth]

macs are so expensive for what it gives ngl

[obsidian wigeon]

Don't get a macbook if you plan to game

[vale epoch]

Have you ever owned one?

[dusky hearth]

no, but my school has them

[obsidian wigeon]

Macbooks sucks at gaming with the specs they provide for the price

[vale epoch]

For work and stuff they are like really good

[obsidian wigeon]

yes but not games

they're mainly productivity laptops

[dusky hearth]

though software made for the mac running on macs tends to work better than software made for windows running on windows

[obsidian wigeon]

anyhow imma make that build better

[dusky hearth]

yeah i enjoy using macs for my video editing, but that's about it really lmao

[vale epoch]

I think I might wait for a new 16 inch model since I love my 13 inch model from 2015

[obsidian wigeon]

ram is definitely able to be cheaper

i saw ballsistix for 74

[vale epoch]

Ram and ssd prices definitely sucks for macs

[dusky hearth]

any prices sucks for macs

like look at the big cheesegrater mac thing that i forget the name to which had $99 addon wheels or smth

those cpus are so expensive when you buy them from apple lmao

profit margin much

[jagged ember]

Again

No gaming

On mac

Period

Also, apple tax.

Because it's apple lol

[vale epoch]

Listen that machine isn’t for regular consumers and is meant for ballers(companies)

[jagged ember]

Lmao weren't the wheels 400 bucks

Or was it 100

Either way, ridiculous

Especially with the stuff you get inside the cheese grater

Unless, your workflow is fully integrated into the Mac ecosystem

[obsidian wigeon]

segotep gp is good psu tho

[vale epoch]

Ok what type pf regular consumer would even buy the mac pro

[dusky hearth]

a gamer

[vale epoch]

Daheck

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TsHs9N @full inlet

I myself don't think ya need 5700g tbh

[vale epoch]

Plus I believe the mac pro was meant to be used alongside the beautiful display pro display xdr

[obsidian wigeon]

Even 5600g is gonna be capable with future upgrades such as gpu

So that's basically 100 cut off the cost

oop

forgot to add ram, ree

[vale epoch]

(Okay I’m turning notifications off cuz you guys are gonna start talking about the stand)

[dusky hearth]

and obviously the $999 stand

lmao

even if you consider that this was aimed at businesses

it's a pretty hecking steep cost

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kTwFQD @full inlet sorry for double ping but this is the final form lol

anyhow

[dusky hearth]

especially for smaller businesses

[obsidian wigeon]

just dun get a mac

[vale epoch]

Macbooks are still da best for productivity accept that!!!!

[dusky hearth]

i have never heard of a segotep, is that psu reliable enough

[obsidian wigeon]

But you sacrifice games

Also yes

[vale epoch]

(Gotta beware of xps 17 owners)

[obsidian wigeon]

It's decent, just non mod and yellow cables

xps is almost as good as macbook tbh

And better gaming perf

[dusky hearth]

ketchup and mustard cables? dies of cringe

[obsidian wigeon]

ye but hey

Cheap

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[vale epoch]

Xps 17 cheap?

[dusky hearth]

nah the psu

[obsidian wigeon]

The segotep psu

[vale epoch]

Oh

[vale epoch]

You can game on 70w?

[obsidian wigeon]

There's xps with dgpu

But hella expensive

[dusky hearth]

isnt all the xps like a 1660 mobile or smth

[vale epoch]

There are 3050 and 3060 versions

[obsidian wigeon]

Just tell me your budget and Imma look for a laptop, again

If you're still unsure Imma just drop this lmao

[dusky hearth]

im on the dell site and they only have 1650ti for the xps 15

[vale epoch]

2k

[obsidian wigeon]

okie

[obsidian wigeon]

So you want it to be able to do school work and game, so batt life sure is a concern

[vale epoch]

Yeah

[dusky hearth]

is that xps 15 or is it 17?

[obsidian wigeon]

Not too hard at 2k

[vale epoch]

17

[obsidian wigeon]

That's 17 ye

[dusky hearth]

ah

but it looks like the 15 doesnt get rtx 30 series

[vale epoch]

Costco has pretty good deal right now on the msi creator if anyone’s interested

[dusky hearth]

wait what the heck

why is the xps 15 with the 1650ti more expensive than the xps 17 with a rtx 2060 max q

by like 50 bucks

these are both looking in the dell site

[vale epoch]

“TI”

[glacial umbra]

uh...

this isn't a good sign

[vale epoch]

Idk why I read cole as coke (the coke type of coke)

@obsidian wigeon you found anything yet?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://xoticpc.com/collections/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks/products/gigabyte-a5-x1-cus2130sh

I found this

It's a chunky boy tho

And probably eh battery life

[vale epoch]

Yeah this kind of defeats the purpose of laptop

What do you think of the alienware m15 r5

[dusky hearth]

what do you mean it defeats the purpose of a laptop

[vale epoch]

That looks like a desktop to me

[dusky hearth]

what

[obsidian wigeon]

https://xoticpc.com/collections/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks/products/msi-gp66-leopard-11uh-444

A tad over budget

[dusky hearth]

that laptop looks only slightly thicker than a thin and light

[obsidian wigeon]

But should have decent batt life in non game stuff

[dusky hearth]

well, around double

still not that big

easily will fit in your bag

[vale epoch]

Found something within budget

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

that should do then

[vale epoch]

But damn costco’s been going hot with gaming laptops

[dusky hearth]

have you seen costco's brand of cheese

[vale epoch]

Nope

[dusky hearth]

you can buy a 72 pound wheel of cheese for only like $700 or smth like that i forget

wait it

's 949.99

$13.20 per pound

cheaper than other places

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-whole-wheel-parmigiano-reggiano%2C-72-lbs.-.product.100096211.html

[obsidian wigeon]

Batt life looks decent

[vale epoch]

The only things I buy at costco are rice water milk yoghurt eggs toothpaste toothbrush salt sugar and sometimes meat

[obsidian wigeon]

According to a review with less efficient, older cpu model

But gpu is the same

[vale epoch]

And I recently found out their tech deals are great

[obsidian wigeon]

Gettin that would be decent

[vale epoch]

Yeah I really want to see it on display if possible tho

The costco I go to didn’t have it

[dusky hearth]

costco has good deals for basically any product

[vale epoch]

Yup

[dusky hearth]

costco superiority

[ionic osprey]

Hi guys, want to ask. Are 2700X + 5600 XT is enough for psu 550w 80+ bronze?

[obsidian wigeon]

Why are you choosing 2700X anyway?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qpzpfP

Gaming/streaming. Want to keep ram.

[obsidian wigeon]

Lian Li O11D sucks for non custom loop

I suggest 5000D Airflow instead

As for keyboard, go with keychron ngl

Unless you insist on gaming features

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yfmKW3 @little osprey

I hope ya like what I did, saved unnecessary costs

[frank stirrup]

I wouldnt get an rx6800xt to stream tbh

if you dont already have it look for nvidia

[scenic rock]

Only way to go with keyboard is custom smh

[frank stirrup]

My 5$ membrane keyboard disagrees

XD

[ionic osprey]

I gonna to use streaming and editing

[fossil cedar]

They've posted here a poop tun of times with pcpp link one message then underneath gaming/streaming, haven't listened once

[frank stirrup]

Ahhhh

one of those peoplw

makes sense

ill ignor

[fossil cedar]

You'd be better getting a 10700 or something

[clever eagle]

that would cost as extra 1200 here

[frank stirrup]

different currencies lmfao

it would cost 180000 here if you ignore currencies

[clever eagle]

lmao

r u in zimbabwe

[idle nimbus]

bertrum from jessie belike -

[full inlet]

ok

[full inlet]

yeah it's for video editing and ksp

[little osprey]

hey guys, im looking to upgrade some stuff on my PC, what would be the next best upgrade to my build. and im not looking for a new GPU rn. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84bZ68

im trying to look for something that would kinda improve every day performace yknow

[fossil cedar]

Nothing but gpu

[little osprey]

[frank stirrup]

GPU

[still roost]

Will be Goated#1491 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil cedar]

That's a good thing

[little osprey]

bro i specifiaccly siad i dont want a new gpu

[frank stirrup]

Then no point in upgrading

Its good as is

[fossil cedar]

Exactly ^

[fossil cedar]

Then don't get anything else

[little osprey]

ok thanks

what about a new cpu

[fossil cedar]

No

Your cpu is less than a year old lol

[little osprey]

is it a decent build tho? i got it in june for my birthday lol

[fossil cedar]

Yes it is

[little osprey]

my first build ever

moved from PS4 becasue i coudlnt get a ps5 lmao

[fossil cedar]

You did a really good job for first time

[little osprey]

shame i cant send pics lol

[little osprey]

thank you

[fossil cedar]

If you talk a bit more til your name turns green then you can

[little osprey]

i dont go on discord much

nvm a new egg server so

[fossil cedar]

It doesn't take very long but fair lol

It's just to avoid bots/spammers

[little osprey]

no ive been in a different serevr with the same rules its all retarte d

i mean look at the admins

💀

[fossil cedar]

Please don't filter evade

What's wrong with the admins lmao

[little osprey]

omds

[frank stirrup]

#build-pics

[fossil cedar]

They still needa have rank

[frank stirrup]

Oh they fixed it?

Nice

[fossil cedar]

Believe so

[vale epoch]

Whats the difference between ti cards and regular cards?

Do they just have more vram?

[stoic island]

It's a higher sku, that's the only generalization you can make

[vale epoch]

So can the 3060 ti handle 1440p?

[stoic island]

3060ti can handle 1440p.

[vale epoch]

Whats the reason 3060 can’t handle more than 1440p

[desert gulch]

just the gpu

its just its power

[stoic island]

The core just isn't powerful enough

Vram is not the limitation

It's like having 5 people paint a wall vs 10 people paint a wall

How much paint you have isn't the limitation, having more people just makes it go faster

[fossil cedar]

Better bar the 3070 ti, technically it's like 2/3% better but just think of it as the same card

[vale epoch]

What type of brand is maingear

[quaint swan]

I’m installing the Galahad 240 soon should I put the mounting bracket in the motherboard before screwing it into the case or after I screw it in?

[quaint swan]

I think they sell prebuilts

[full inlet]

that motherboard did have flashback

[dusky hearth]

Oh? I didnt see it lmao

[fossil cedar]

yes that motherboard does and its a lot better than the ds3h

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9tbBc i would do this unless they need the 8c on theres not much point, and in that case you might as well grab a 10700 or 11700 assuming main thing isnt gaming

[fossil cedar]

it does idk why they said it didnt

[full inlet]

yeah it is for some gaming and video editing

[potent portal]

What program for editing? Many use the gpu more than cpu threads now

What program for editing? Many use the gpu more than cpu threads now

[full inlet]

Movavi Video Editor

[potent portal]

Yeah that uses the gpu so cpu doesn't need to have all those threads

[fossil cedar]

Yeah so getting a 5700g over 5600g wouldn't really be worth it for them

Going with 5600g allows for more than 500gb storage too

[full inlet]

ok

how is this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d6Njwz

[obsidian wigeon]

they don't need that aio ngl

it performs meh, and tends to leak

[full inlet]

he also wants to stream ksp

[fossil cedar]

@full inlet i would do any of these options depening on how much ssd and hdd storage they want https://pcpartpicker.com/list/692nYg https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9tbBc

[fossil cedar]

bad aio, horrendous ram and oven case

[fossil cedar]

the coolers i gave you are plenty

and cooler master aios are known to have leaked

[fossil cedar]

ksp?

[full inlet]

ok

kerbal space program

it is a mostly cpu intensive game

[fossil cedar]

then its fine

then its fine

[full inlet]

wdym bad rma?

why is the ram bad?

[fossil cedar]

cl20

with really loose timings that is an awful kit of ram

you would be way better getting 3200cl16 for cheaper

also corsair ram in general it just pretty meh

[full inlet]

oh my bad

didn't realize those were the timings

he is concerned that the msi pro vdh doesn't have wifi 6

[fossil cedar]

no need to worry wifi 5 has a max speed of 1300mbps

[full inlet]

yeah

supposedly some people have been disconnected for no reason with that motherboard.

[fossil cedar]

thats just wifi being wifi, it sometimes drops etc

[full inlet]

yeah

I told him that

[fossil cedar]

any wifi device will have that problem

if they want a solid connection tell them to use ethernet through a long wire or even powerline if they so please

[jagged ember]

He also could just get a wifi 6 pcie card

[vague oracle]

First time I heard of someone wanting to stream with a sub 1k pc lol

[jagged ember]

I mean, it'd work if you stream at 720p 30fps

And 2500kbps maybe

[celest horizon]

You can stream quite well with just a 1050 ti / NVENC

[jagged ember]

If you can find one for a nice price

[full inlet]

yeah and it isn't like an fps game

[trail elbow]

I know im late but do i have to flash the bios on the board?

[fossil cedar]

Most likely not but probs a good idea to

[trail elbow]

ok

ty

[tawny violet]

Question

But not here

[fossil cedar]

Huh?

[fossil cedar]

Np

[tawny violet]

Checked in and didn't see which channel I had open

[fossil cedar]

Mkay

[potent plinth]

Ey

My dad needs pc

Prebuilt

Something thats fast and has a lot of memory, he is not gonna play games lol

Any suggsstions

[little osprey]

Privately msg me @potent plinth

[wispy matrix]

dude we can do it here

its not that hard to find one

@potent plinth ill take over from here

budget?

[potent plinth]

He doesnt know😂

He doesnt care

He says as cheap as u can get it

[wispy matrix]

just look at Abs on Newegg they have some good stuff

[potent plinth]

Hm

So I think I could go with igpu

Ssd

[wispy matrix]

you can build one with a igpu

[potent plinth]

Ryzen 3 3200g?

[wispy matrix]

but let me see

[potent plinth]

Wait imma build something

Gonna send it herd

Wait

[wispy matrix]

alright

[potent plinth]

Is 2200g gonna work

[wispy matrix]

first time hearing about the 2200g

[potent plinth]

R3 2200g

[wispy matrix]

ye i seen

[fossil cedar]

Budget?

[potent plinth]

I think its alr for office

[potent plinth]

I said it right belks

Blow

Belos

Below damit

[fossil cedar]

If he doesn't care bout budget then you could go with a 3080 lol

[potent plinth]

.

[wispy matrix]

pato he wants a cheap office pc with fast memory

[fossil cedar]

I would not buy any non Ryzen 5000g apu, either that or intel with igpu

[potent plinth]

I mean hes using a 2008 office pc

Igpu

Intel

[fossil cedar]

Ohh mist that bit

Tarik what country?

[potent plinth]

In my about me

Wait lemme build something

[little osprey]

Total is 620 usd

[fossil cedar]

@potent plinth what country are you in?

Us?

[wispy matrix]

i dont think so based off his bio

[wispy matrix]

?

[fossil cedar]

620 usd is way higher than possible

Ahh bosnia

[potent plinth]

Bro

620usd noway xd

That mid-high end pc here l

Lol

[fossil cedar]

No point anyway lol considering your in bosnia?

[potent plinth]

Ye

I built something

So

[little osprey]

Idk

[potent plinth]

Wanna hear it?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[wispy matrix]

ye

[fossil cedar]

And include prices in list pls if it's a wall of text

[little osprey]

Gt 210 and core 2 duo with 1mb of ram

[fossil cedar]

No

[wispy matrix]

thats a big no

[little osprey]

Lol

[potent plinth]

I went with

Ryzen 3 2200g
B450-M DS3H
Kingstone HX Fury DDr4 8GB 2666mhz

I will add other in minutr

Gimme a sec

[fossil cedar]

Prices?

And ehhhh

[potent plinth]

Uhh

100€ for processor

[little osprey]

My suggestion Ryzen 5 5600g

[potent plinth]

40e ram

70e mbo

[fossil cedar]

Lol no

Tarik can you send the sites you'll be buying off of, I'll put something together for you

[potent plinth]

Alright

Olx.ba

Wait

I gotta send somethong

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[potent plinth]

Can I dm u

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[little osprey]

Well I bought A 5000 usd pc but i hate it

[wispy matrix]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Ok

Completely irrelevant to a guy that lives in bosnia tho

And price doesn't equal good

[wispy matrix]

@little osprey #rules

[little osprey]

Ok

Cool if I share a list here?

[potent plinth]

sure

[little osprey]

Looking for feedback and compatibility

Shared List https://newegg.io/a1482443

Ideally the card is sub $1500

[potent plinth]

Looking good

[little osprey]

Nvidia for studio drivers and premiere pro

Any editors in here?

[wispy matrix]

@little osprey can i make a better list for you

but the psu is overpriced

so is the gpu

storage

[rustic flower]

I am going to temporarily channel Captain Obvious and say the stock cooler is not enough for the i7-11700F, and that a dainty upgrade may help in this regard. So dainty. That is all. https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-dark-rock-tf-2/p/13C-001F-00063?Description=be quiet! Dark Rock TF2&cm_re=be_quiet! Dark Rock TF2-_-9SIA68VEVU5362-_-Product 😆

[wispy matrix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Wh868 @little osprey

well this is a bit better

@fossil cedar any suggestions

or you working with the other guy

[little osprey]

Open to ideas from anyone, appreciate it!

[wispy matrix]

i would suggest to change the Gpu from a 3060ti to a 3070 for that price

[little osprey]

Video cards are confusing now. Looks like that cooling kit isn’t available in Canada

[wispy matrix]

oh your in canada

[little osprey]

🇨🇦

[wispy matrix]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGDGq there

changed to canada

[little osprey]

I have a 1050 right now so anything that’s better than this on a $1500 CAD budget which is about $1200 in USD

[wispy matrix]

so 1500 cad budget

alright

editing?

[little osprey]

Video editing premiere pro with Nvidia studio drivers

[wispy matrix]

i guess i can change out the build for something else

[fossil cedar]

hey so matt, youre budget is 1500 canadian and what is your use case again?

[fossil cedar]

i was but done now

[wispy matrix]

hes using it for editing

[little osprey]

4K video editing performance and live streaming

[fossil cedar]

1500 cad?

tight budget

[little osprey]

That’s just for the video card

[fossil cedar]

ohh

whats total budget?

[wispy matrix]

i would say you would be good with a 3070 with that budget

[little osprey]

The link I shared was about $3700 CAD

[fossil cedar]

okay

[rustic flower]

$1500 CAD might getcha a used GT 720..... grumble grumble shortage complain. XD

[fossil cedar]

well thats way too high, you could fit a better gpu in there or decrease total cost

[vale epoch]

So build chat I decided to go full productivity and decided to wait for a 16inch macbook pro and decided to get a pc for gaming after a while (after I graduate college)

[fossil cedar]

matt would you prefer better or less money?

also do you need wifi?

[vale epoch]

I’ll be back in 5 years and flex a high end card on you guys

[little osprey]

Max budget $3800 just trying to get an optimized build that’s good for longevity

[fossil cedar]

okay cool

and you want 4tb of nvme storage?

[little osprey]

2TB is fine I’d rather have more RAM

[fossil cedar]

grand

[little osprey]

Prefer Samsung Evo

[desert gulch]

I'd wait for ddr5 and see what next gen Ryzen will offer tbh

With 3.8k

[little osprey]

How long on that?

[wispy matrix]

prob 4-5 months

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little osprey]

I can definitely wait

[desert gulch]

Nvidia 4000 series will prolly be out around then too

[fossil cedar]

why?

you can get just as good drives for cheaper

[little osprey]

Reliability I guess never had any issues after years of use

Video cards are crazy 😝 4000 will be very expensive I’m sure

[fossil cedar]

well going samsung is gonna cost an extra 100$ or so

not really worth

[little osprey]

What brand do you use?

[fossil cedar]

also nvidia 4000 wont be out for another year and a bit

okay here is one option https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MsgkX

[little osprey]

I really don’t mind buying a card that’s a level below the top end cards. I don’t get why some of them are $800 and others several thousand. So many releases of cards over the last year

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7qtbBc here is another option

[fossil cedar]

well the 3080 in the 2nd list will be more powerful and has 2gb extra of vram which is a bonus in video editing

and obvs more fps in games

[little osprey]

This is a solid build, what are the chances I’ll actually find that video card?

[fossil cedar]

well the 3070 one was amazon pricing

and the 3080 one was quite close to amazon pricing

[rustic flower]

Find it? Easy. That price? Welll... 🤷‍♂️

[fossil cedar]

1500 cad for 3070 and 1900 cad for 3080 is plenty of room tbf

[little osprey]

The price on that card fluctuates a lot!

Newegg had it for $1299 now it’s over 2K

[fossil cedar]

Well any 3070 or any 3080 will do, don't look for a specific model of it

They were just the first ones that came up

Also a 3070 ti instead of a 3070 is okay, just don't pay any more than you would for a 3070 for it as they are basically the same card

[rustic flower]

I know, I am just grumbling. The market is what it is.

[little osprey]

I get it, it’s confusing

[fossil cedar]

what can ya do

[little osprey]

That’s why I’m here asking for advice lol

Thank you

[fossil cedar]

That's what we're here for lol

No problem happy to help

[rustic flower]

As an outlier, consider an RX 6800 XT or 6900 XT, usually in the same price range and also suitable for your stated use. OR wait a bit for the INtel GPUs to be sold out on launch - I mean 'available' XD

[rustic flower]

I can grumble. It's what I am good at. That and I am not actually badly affected, I have an adequate card for the foreseeable future.

[fossil cedar]

Not for streaming

[rustic flower]

Admittedly, the 30XX are better for that. But it can be done.

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh i mean yes its better than nothing but it's more of a last resort due to how amazing nvenc is

[brittle copper]

Any RGB puke people here

[fossil cedar]

Why do you have 2x 3080s?

1 better be full time mining lol

Ehh i can try with rgb puke but not great

[little osprey]

I like having control over lighting not sure if I’d use it

[jagged ember]

I don't like rgb

Because it's a headache to set up

[long rock]

So the 3600X return was a success from last week, I think what I’ll do, is on Monday, cash my check, it’s gonna process for a bit, then if I have the money, commit 5600X

[fossil cedar]

You got a physical cheque for your money back?

[long rock]

Not yet

I think I got the money tho, idk

That’s why I’m waiting

I’m hoping the new RAM and CPU really make a difference, from what I’ve been reading, I think it’s Gonna be pretty noticeable

[fossil cedar]

You should just get it in your bank account

It will be

[long rock]

Yeah I need to look at the numbers and stuff and make some calculations

I’ve cashed a few checks since then so idk what is and isn’t from Newegg

[fossil cedar]

I can't believe you've had to cash cheques, i haven't used one of this in like 4 years? After i was paid for a camp thing and we were paid by cheque as a "gift" lol

[vernal dirge]

Imagine getting paychecks right guys?? Guys..?

No direct deposit for me..

[marble dune]

Ay how Im supposed to hook up my fans rgb if one of the spots for the pins are blocked out, its not gonna go into tbr rgb header

[peak ginkgo]

Direct deposit for the win, haven't had to cash any checks since 2002...

[fossil cedar]

Really??? That like never happens in Ireland, bank transfer has been the only way to get paid bar cash in hand sometimes lol

[fossil cedar]

There should be an rgb header the same layout

[marble dune]

Man yall the same ppl that was in the other chat why couldn't I just get assistance there

Theres a 4pin

The one for the fan is 3 pin

[fossil cedar]

Ayy attitude we do volunteer we're not slaves or paid for this

Can you send a pic

[marble dune]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Uhhh

It might be okay but i haven't actually done rgb stuff before, mb check to see if there's a different rgb header

[marble dune]

I never done rgb stuff before either

Thats why I am ultra confused

And thats def not ok

Its blocked out so it would destroy the pin on the header

[worn wave]

That's a RGB header and an A-RGB device cable

You need to look for a ARGB or DRGB header

[marble dune]

Oh so basically f me

[worn wave]

Some older motherboards dont have ARGB headers

[marble dune]

Yea

Dont think so

[worn wave]

A system I built last weekend for someone diddn't and it was annoying

Their 3070 did not fit the case either

[marble dune]

Tragic

Yea I dont think it has argb

Tuff

No rgb den

[worn wave]

You are able to buy an ARGB controller

[marble dune]

I really didnt buy it for the rgb but I was gonna hook it up anyway

[worn wave]

ah

[marble dune]

Its not worth me getting a controller

That's the only rgb fan in the pc

And the rest of the case is ugly and in horrible shape so idrc about rgb

You cant even see it anyway

Cause the case has this tiny acrylic panel that you can barely even look thru

So I guess the cable will just chill there

[quaint swan]

So I’ve circled fan 1, 2, and 3 ports on the motherboard. Fan 1 is in the middle of the motherboard, but does it matter if I plug fan 1 into the 2nd port, fan 2 into the 3rd port, and fan 3 into the 4th port to avoid routing a cable into the middle of my motherboard?

[fossil cedar]

You can do whatever order you so please

[quaint swan]

U sure?

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Yes it's just so you know which one you're controling if you want to have separate fan curves

[quaint swan]

Ok thx

[long rock]

Oh we don’t have direct deposit, our dealership hasn’t gotten that far yet

Prolly too much money and too complicated for them to set up

[fossil cedar]

They haven't gotten to the 21st century?

xD

[long rock]

They have not

It’s interesting

Got to uh, save money, I don’t think we have a whole lot

It’s a car dealership so it’s kinda odd

[cerulean root]

how do i tell how many fans the https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi has? ive looked at the manual but im confused

[fossil cedar]

Do you mean fan headers?

It has 1 cpu fan header, 3 regular fan headers and 1 pump header which can be used as a fan header too

[cerulean root]

so i can have 4 man fans and a cpu fan?

main*

your knought reeding this corectly

also, how come i havent heard much of the ryzen 5700X?

no one has ever suggusted it to me

[dense field]

Does that exist

[cerulean root]

yes

duude

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/

[still roost]

Scroppy#4509 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cerulean root]

not that lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box

this

dude it seems good

whats wrong with it???

[jagged ember]

You mistyped

First of sll

[dense field]

3700x not 5700x

[jagged ember]

Second of all it's overpriced to hell and back

[cerulean root]

oh frick

[dense field]

Yeah bad price range

[jagged ember]

And has its ass handed to it by the 5600x

Except for multicore

And only marginally

[cerulean root]

ah

i missread this, im stupid

[jagged ember]

So, it's not a bad cpu if you already own one

But if you're buying one?

No way

[cerulean root]

kk so 3600X

[jagged ember]

Eh

[cerulean root]

5600X

[dense field]

No

Yes

[jagged ember]

11400

[cerulean root]

ooo intel??

[jagged ember]

Instead of 3600x

Same thing for less money

Ofc get a b560

[cerulean root]

yes

[jagged ember]

Not a b550

[cerulean root]

ik

the one i have rn has a version in both thinks

things*

but intel's socet has wifi 6 instead of wifi 5

[jagged ember]

Eh

Not really something to be concerned Abt imo

Wifi 5 has max of 1300mbps

[cerulean root]

i mean better is improvement still

[jagged ember]

Yeah, but

If your router is wifi 5

No point

Okay brb

[cerulean root]

how do i tell what my wifi router is?

[dense field]

The protocol

[cerulean root]

also i have some random router things

[dense field]

Like ax

Or ac

[cerulean root]

what is a dlink router?

[dense field]

Just look it up

Probably not wifi 6

But It can be if it's new

[cerulean root]

it said the link speed is 1000 mps? does that mean anything

[dense field]

You want the wifi technology like 802.11ax (Wifi 6)

802.11ac, or 802.11b/g/n

Getting a good route is a good investment if you want fast wifi

[cerulean root]

dont i need to upgrade wifi speeds to?

like i got the frontier wifi, wouldent i need to upgrade speeds as well?

[dense field]

Yes your speeds are limited by the weakest link

[brittle copper]

3D Renders, usually redshift and vray

[cerulean root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#sort=-name&page=1
if i go intel which of these should i choose for best peformance?

11400

(just enter that in search bar and act like that link worked like magic)

[brittle copper]

Best of what kind of performance?

[cerulean root]

game

basicly intergrated grapics or no

[brittle copper]

Oh

What GPU are you going to be using

[dense field]

Yeah that's the most important question

Do you have a gpu

[cerulean root]

im going to be using (hopefully) a 3060 ti fe

[cerulean root]

not the one i want for build

[jagged ember]

Don't aim for a specific model tbh

[cerulean root]

i have spare tho

[jagged ember]

Just go for any 3060ti

Fe is real hard to get

[cerulean root]

my budget wont allow it

[dense field]

?

[jagged ember]

Oof

[cerulean root]

im choosing fe cuz at msrp it cheapest

[brittle copper]

This man is right

[jagged ember]

Well, good luck

[brittle copper]

I’m gonna be honest with you

[cerulean root]

and there is no 3060 fe

[dense field]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

Maybe you'll find some 3060ti on sale one day

[cerulean root]

nahh ima go through the fight at bestbuy

the fricking warzone

[dense field]

Gl

[jagged ember]

Lol gl

[cerulean root]

lol

[dense field]

Massive luck to you

[brittle copper]

Trying to buy any FE at this point in time is kind stupid

Trust me

[cerulean root]

what type of cpu tho?

[cerulean root]

i believe you, but if i succed

[dense field]

Idk how but my friend bought a 3090 fe from microcenter

[cerulean root]

also i have about 500ish in my account rn and i still need to save up so i can start trying now to get 3060 ti fe

[dense field]

Save some more

[cerulean root]

if i dont get it then i can switch

intergrated grapics (on cpu) or no?

[brittle copper]

You won’t, 3060 TI FEs are EOL

[dense field]

That's really up to you but if you are buying a 3060

Then no

[brittle copper]

So rather than you won’t

It’s more like you can’t

Unless you want to buy it off eBay

[dense field]

It's all if you can get that 3060

Which is really difficilt

So you might want integrated graphics

Unless you have a spare gpu

[cerulean root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ScroppyIsDead/saved/#view=zngvjX

this is full build, if i cant get 3060 ti fe ima go for 3060 or something along those lines

[brittle copper]

The 3070 FEs and up are still being manufactured tho @cerulean root

[dense field]

If you have a spare gpu don't get integrated graphics

[brittle copper]

What GPU do you have now?

[dense field]

Yeah do you have one now

[cerulean root]

nope

it sucks

its like a 1050 2gb

from the dell optiplex

[dense field]

Ok that's fine

You can use that while you hunt for a 3060 ti or whatever

[cerulean root]

how good will that do?

when i tried it, it had 15 fps minecraft

[brittle copper]

Getting a 3060 under 500 is still gonna be pretty difficult

[cerulean root]

with fastest settings

[brittle copper]

You better go evga for this

[dense field]

It's better than integrated graphics apparebtly

[cerulean root]

or maybe 1080 ti? how much are they?

[dense field]

Minecraft is cpu intensive

[brittle copper]

More than a 3060 lol

[cerulean root]

single core bound ik

it had a 3.1 ghz 4 cores

it was somesort of i5

[dense field]

Hmm idk

[brittle copper]

You should keep an eye out for Intels DG2 GPU

[cerulean root]

omg intel is joining the race??

oh dear god

[brittle copper]

They already did

The DG1 has been out for couple months now

[dense field]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-Minecraft/3776/191450.0.0.0.0

[cerulean root]

are they good for mining? might be able to take attention off nvidias for a minute or two lmao

[dense field]

Bad site but whatever it seems 1050 should run Minecraft fine

[cerulean root]

tf?

why did it only run like 15 fps for me???

tf is this

ok so i can use that hopefully for a little bit.

[dense field]

There are videos of it running fine

[cerulean root]

huh

well in that case what gpu should i go with?

[brittle copper]

Keep in mind they run Minecraft on phones now

[cerulean root]

bedrock

[dense field]

Java is different

[cerulean root]

brb

[brittle copper]

Oh yeah Ig

[dense field]

So you should stick with your 1050 and try to get a 3060 ti or whatever later

[brittle copper]

You should join the evga queue

@dense field oh btw I have a random question for you

[quaint swan]

Which way do I plug this in?

The ports are symmetrical, but the cables aren’t

[desert gulch]

Look how it's keyed

And which way the clip will work

You cant put these in the wrong way, physically not possible

So make sure clip is on top when plugged in

[quaint swan]

So do I take half of one and half of the other for the 8 pin and half of one for the 4 pin?

[desert gulch]

Yeah a full 8 pin for one and a 4 for the other

Most likely you don't even need to plug in the extra 4 pin but it doesn't hurt ig

[quaint swan]

But these r the cables

[desert gulch]

Looks like one of those comes apart into a 4+4

The one on the left in the photo

[quaint swan]

They both do

[desert gulch]

Oh then just separate one

[quaint swan]

I can’t the ports are symmetrical and the cables aren’t

The 8 pin is symmetrical

[desert gulch]

You may need to rearrange them and pull them apart and stick them on the other sides of each other maybe

[quaint swan]

I’m pretty sure this is incompatible with my motherboard

[desert gulch]

It isnt

[quaint swan]

It’s an msi agf psu with an msi mpg mb

[desert gulch]

It'll work

%100 gaurunteed

[quaint swan]

Is it possible to plug the left half of both of them one into the right side of the 8pin and the other into the 4 pin?

[desert gulch]

Idk how they're exactly keyed, one sec

[quaint swan]

Those are the layouts for both the Psu and the mb ports

[desert gulch]

So yeah looks like it'd work but you should just be able to do it like how it's supposed to work

[quaint swan]

The only way it could work is if I take 1 cable and plug half into the psu then plug the other symmetrical end into the 8 pin

[jagged ember]

You usually only need the 8pin

Just make sure you plug in the cpu power to the cpu part of the psu

[quaint swan]

There r 2 different shape pins, do those shapes necessarily have to be plugged into the same shape?

[jagged ember]

Is the cable labeled cpu?

[quaint swan]

That end is yeah

[jagged ember]

Assuming that's one cable

Plug one to psu, one to cpu 8pin

Again, plug it into cpu labeled part of psu lol

[quaint swan]

So even if there r different shapes, it can be plugged into the 8 pin?

@jagged ember

[jagged ember]

It'll go in

As long as the cable is labeled cpu

[quaint swan]

I g the square shaped pins r for both shapes

Thx

[dense field]

@jagged ember is it better to get a 1700 prebuilt or hope to get a good gpu

[jagged ember]

Post here

We'll see if it's worth

[dense field]

Well i don't have one yet

[jagged ember]

O

Well in this economy

Prebuilt better value

So am assuming 1700 budget

That's a nice budget

https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189

This is real nice

If u can push 100 more bucks

https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194

[dense field]

Oh it's 1700 usd

[jagged ember]

This is still fine, but am sad about 3060 only

[dense field]

So we can go higher

[jagged ember]

Mm

Sure

[jagged ember]

But this is pretty pog

[quaint swan]

What is this?

[jagged ember]

Molex

The cursed connector that should have been banished

[dense field]

Oh youngings

[quaint swan]

Do I need it?

[jagged ember]

Don't need it if nothing uses molex

[quaint swan]

What uses moles?

[jagged ember]

Fans, old usb hubs and stuff

My homies hate molex tho

As long as nothing in ur pc needs 4 thick and dumb pins

Ur good

[dense field]

Yeah

[quaint swan]

I literally don’t see anywhere it could go on the mb so I think I don’t need it

[dense field]

It's old people stuff

[jagged ember]

No, doesn't go on mobo

Goes on fans and stuff

If nothing u have has 4 thick pins it's useless

[quaint swan]

All my fans r plugged into mb w/o molex

[jagged ember]

Good

Then u probably don't need it

[quaint swan]

Next question out of prob dozens

[jagged ember]

Who is our sponsor?

Ting mobile

[quaint swan]

Wideus tip tips

[dense field]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali554/p/N82E16883360184 is there something a little cheaper than this

[quaint swan]

Why does this sata power cable have four ends and do i need all of them

[jagged ember]

Haha that's outta budget

But damn that's spicy

[jagged ember]

If you have 4 hdds/sata ssds

Yes

Otherwise, you only need to plug as many sata drives as you have

[quaint swan]

Why r There r some sata ports on the mb?

[jagged ember]

That's to read data

[quaint swan]

I have 1 hard drive btw

[jagged ember]

Note, the ones on that cable are long port boys

The ones on the mobo are shorter

Longer is power, shorter is data

You require both to be plugged in

Power from psu to hdd

Data from hdd to mobo

Double note, some mobos will disable some sata ports if some pcie slots or m.2 slots are used

Refer to manual for further information

[quaint swan]

This is part of my case pre installed cables. Do I need 1 sata pwr for my hdd and one for this?

[jagged ember]

What's it connected to?

[quaint swan]

The case

[jagged ember]

Mm

Well you probably need it for a fan hub

Which is probably in the case then

Can't think of much else on a case that needs sata power

[quaint swan]

In the case manual it says this is to plug into the psu so I’m assuming I use the pwr cable

So fan hub yeah

[jagged ember]

Well, it's nice to know where it goes or what it powers

Eh, plug it in

[quaint swan]

And I’ll use the second one for my hdd

[jagged ember]

Won't hurt

[quaint swan]

Cool

[rustic flower]

Extremely aqdvanced technology. Also known as a molex connector.

[dense field]

It's alien technology. Get it right

[rustic flower]

Indeed. So mysterious!

👽

[long rock]

So people have emplored me to add an SSD to my build, are they expensive right now? Will prices go up or down in the future?

[vague oracle]

They aren’t really expensive

If you have an M.2 slot on your mobo then I’d go for a P31 gold

[obsidian wigeon]

They're like 90-140 for 1tb

Depending do you want highest speed or nah

A P31 Gold is about 134

Platinum is coming out soon tho, so that's the better one

Denser nand