#building-and-recc-chat
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i had that issue with my first build and it was just the 24 pin not being fully plugged in
but yea that was the purpose of me asking for a pic
Yes i even went thru unplugged everything and plugged it back in
but yea
alright just making sure, sometimes its the small things
If you ain’t running a dell optiplex gx620 gx520 gx280 then what are you doing with your life
pictures are for nerds 
Watch his gpu be plugged into his dimm slots
Whats flashbacka
how did you update bios
The thing you apparently did lol?
With a usb then i plugged it in and help that button on the io for a few seconds then the green light started blinkijg
If not just wham it into a laptop or smth lol
For msi boards you need to rename it to MSI.ROM
It got renamed automatically if I remember right
Back
.
I plugged in the gpu
@plain grove your gpu doesn’t haven’t integrated graphics
b550-f has debug leds, what do those say
Jokes
None show
what
It doesn’t ?
None light up
It was a joke lmfao
gigabyte.bin
no trolling in the official #building-and-recc-chat 
oh fun
😠
It switched from white to green
the display cord is plugged into the gpu right
Yes
@plain grove if it doesn’t turn on then you actually have an issue
But it still says boot
@plain grove did you plug the cables into the gpu
the cable to the gpu from the igpu
Yes
boot can sometimes refer to issues with boot device, could check and/or reseat ssd/hdd
Is it weird that none of the debug leds lit up?
How do I do that with the hdd
you know how to go into bios, dallying?
a little
@plain grove unplug reply
ok so turn off your PC
Replug*
and then turn it on and spam del on your keyboard
unplug and then plug 24pin in again
just in case
make sure it's in
fully
I did that also
I went thru everything multiple times but nothing worked
I’m waiting
For a sec it was on vga
asus documentation is dumb
give it a moment
Nah it went to boot
can ya take a pic now
Yeah it’s not working for me either?
Whats not plugged in is to the aio rgb fans its from earlier today ill get better ones ina sec
Thats before i went thru it again but its abt the same
sometimes I wish everyone just had great cameras
What psu do you have @fleet pagoda
Yeah
anyways, check eps12v again
Jw
can't see it
@fleet pagoda oh yea check if you have eps12v plugged into the 8 pin and just ignore the extra 4 pin up there for now
Whats eps12v
Try 1 stick of ram @fleet pagoda
Ill try 1 stick tmr and the 8pin for some reason isn’t split like 4x4 isn’t that usually how it is
what
the board has 8+4, the cable from the PSU should be a 8 pin that can split to 4+4, you should plug the 4+4 into just the 8 pin on the board
It is just in the 8pin the 4 on the left i didn’t bother with
make sure it's fully plugged in
What do I do I’m kinda stuck on this
It is
@topaz kestrel
Still struggling with it
What now I thought you got a gpu?
I did the monitor is still saying boot
@fleet pagoda take the stick that's in A2 out for now
The monitor or the motherboard
and then clear cmos again with the stick removed
^could be speed issues or just faulty sticks
Anyways @plain grove what’s it saying boot on your motherboard or monitor?
Mb
Im gonna gts now but ill try that tmr with you if thats fine
checked storage yet?
Then unplug the hard drive and replug it in @plain grove
Gn thank you for help
Gn @fleet pagoda
gamers nexus to you too
Unplug it from the hdd or from the mb
Both
Make sure to put it back in though of course lol
Where is your sata power cable?
@stoic island I’m not being stupid there is meant to be a sata power cable here right?
Yes it’s in
No that’s the sata cable
Sata 5
1 sec this cats being annoying asf
@plain grove check your psu for one of these to plug into the hdd
Sorry for flash but it’s a sata power
Hdd and ssd use a sata cable and a sata power cable
Does it have a specific name
from the power supply, it's just sata
it's usually just on a chain of multiple plugs
just use one
Found it
Plug that in
And hopefully it will boot
Your hdd isn’t getting any power without that lol
Ok got it in
Now power your pc on
Heard a beeping noise
beeping a bit weird but let it do it's thing for a bit
although hdd starting up sound could be described as a beep
None of the lights are on
give it a moment
give it like a minute
Alright I’m kinda anxious this took me like 7 hours to put together
patience is nice
Reason: Bad word usage
Lol
Woops
If worst comes to worst check your cpu isnt booped
I dbout it tho
Doubt*
What does that mean
Yeah check nothing is bent
bent pins make for not-fun things
Make sure ram is seated properly
My cpu is brand new I doubt there’s anything wrong with it
That’s not always the case
accidents happen
CPUs are easy to damage lol
Even if it wasn’t you it could have came damaged
I mean, not that easy to damage, but it's not that uncommon to accidentally bend a pin when installing the cpu
@plain grove power it off and reseat your ram
Alright
usually mobo preferred slot is a2
^
check manual if you want to doublecheck
I hope you don’t have a damaged cpu or mobo that wouldn’t be fun lol
tbf bent cpu pins are fairly simple to fix
Manual doesn’t work
wouldn't recommend tweezers to people like me
hands too shaky
just use a flatedge
I mean the manual sucks it’s not specific
How does your manual not work…
razor can work
Ok @plain grove just put 1 ram stick into your second dimm slot
what board again
MSI B560M PRO-VDH ProSeries Motherboard (Micro-ATX, 11th/10th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1200 Socket, DDR4, PCIe 4, M.2 Slots, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2, 2.5G LAN, DP/HDMI)
MSI B560M PRO-VDH
You only need the name not a background check on the motherboard @plain grove lol
this is literally on the 5th page for preferred slots >:(
What do I check
but yea
Ok @plain grove
a2 first
Go inside your pc
I put it in like that
Alright
I like MSI manual, the manual is good, what you might've read might have just been the quick start guide, not the full manual, btw.
Do I take out both sticks and put one back in
I’ll be going with gigabyte for my next build so I hope if anything messes up the manual is nice
I prefer asus cause they have diagnostic lights
Ram problem? dram light lights up
It’s on vga now
debug leds depend on the board, not the brand
Now none of them are lighting up
so does msi
Well that’s good
:p
Turn it on now @plain grove
I did
and MSI gets bios flashback much more frequently on lower end
You got a hdmi cable you can try?
HDMI slot
A dell optiplex gx650
Just the mb
I said what gpu lol
Idk your confusing me
not mobo
^
motherboard can't display what the graphics card is displaying
We have already established you don’t have integrated graphics
Now what gpu do you have
Name of the graphics card
Make this easy for us all please
Lol
So you can't even boot and get display if there's no gpu installed
GeForce gtx 650
Then connect the monitor to the gpu
That card doesn’t have a vga slot…
How so?
or a hdmi
I'm sure gtx 650 isn't too new
Unless that model of gtx 650 has only dvi or something
it might have displayport
Maybe
Only dvi-d and the useless cable
mini hdmi
rip
sad
@plain grove does your gpu say evga on it?
Yes
If so you are booped unless you have a dvi-d or a dvi-d to hdmi converter
Digital to digital is easiest
If you don't have an igpu, not plugging into the gpu is why you're not getting a display
@plain grove either order a new gpu or order converter cables
kek
Lol
I got an old TV that has VGA, DVI conversion is easy for that
Rip time for new cables
So a cable is needed
Or converter
Cable or a converter
Or else no display
How do Ik my pc will work with new cables
That’s the sexiest pfp I’ve seen ever Wideus#1940
you dont
Thank you
@jagged ember *
@plain grove well currently since you don’t even have a cable that will work I’d assume it’s your best bet
You have to guess before anything
Well regardless it should be working with a vga cord did I do something wrong that could be stopping the monitor from receiving a signal
But there's no issues with the ram it seems
Can I get a new vga cable
So I'm sure it's just no display issue
if you cant even plug the display cable into gpu it wont work
Just get hdmi to dvi-d
Your gpu doesn’t have a vga port…
yeah
My mb does tho
Nope
You don’t have integrated graphics meaning you need a cable or a new gpu
Please just listen
I think the rig itself is probably fine
We aren’t saying this to please us lol
Just no cable to connect to gpu
Truth hurts sometimes
Anyways who runs a gtx 650 with a 10400f lol
Probably no money for a new gpu
All the display ports on the motherboard can do is display an output from the integrated graphics, it can't display an output from your graphics card. To get the display from your graphics card, you need to plug the display into the graphics card.
Just get a cable:converter anyways
Well like i said I wasn’t planning on using a gpu
^
then you arent using that pc
period
Didn't you just
Say it doesn't have vga
You getting a pc for YouTube or smth lol?
if he isnt using a gpu he wont be using a pc ever period lol
I said the gpu doesn’t have a vga the mb does
The pc won't work if you can't connect the monitor
And we're saying you need to plug the display into the gpu to get it to show something
I hate Amazon links sometimes lmao
Because your cpu does not have an igpu
Please stop
I hate them too and I hate the 8$ I’m about to spend
It cannot display using the motherboard port
You are hurting my soul
Converter cables aren't costly at all
All the display ports on the motherboard can do is display an output from the integrated graphics, it can't display an output from your graphics card. To get the display from your graphics card, you need to plug the display into the graphics card.
Yeah compared to a new gpu or cpu your are lucky
It's needed, and it'll solve yo issue
Why so
I'm certain the ram's fine
Literally because that's how it is
Well cause you could connect the gpu to the monitor
Wdym why
Also ye, if you connect to mobo's display ports
It takes signal from igpu
But there's none in this case so you get nothing
I mean, you really don't have to listen to us if you don't believe us
Your mobo can’t show your gpu and your cpu doesn’t have integrated graphics because you chose the wrong one, so now you need a gpu which you don’t have wires for meaning you need a cable and the cable is cheaper than new cpu or gpu so please take this answer choose if you want a cable or a converter and stop
It's your pc and your choice after all
Buy the cable and your problem sure gonna disappear
But we're telling you the truth
tru
Alright thanks muffin I see it now
Ik lol
Finally
Alright I might just buy a new gpu for all of that but what if it still doesn’t work even after I connect it to the gpu?
Honestly might buy a ltt body pillow
Uh
It's
Wha
@plain grove then come back for help
Just an 8 bucks of cable away
That'll cost you more my dude
But yeah, I guess you can do that
If you didn’t plan on using the gpu anyways just get the cable
Lol
***You will still need to use the gpu but it cheaper than buying a new one ***
Alright thanks guy I appreciate I’ll lyk what happens when I get the cable
If you actually want to game etc I recommend buying a gpu though
But it’s your money lol
is there triple channel ram
na
3 dimm slot
It's like first gen intel core
nice
I think it was 6 slots?
remember those days when a 4 core cpu cost 200$
danm 150$ 1660 is normal those days
Bro you can see 1660 for like £320 💀
@topaz kestrel
My favorite muffin you there
Ig not anyone else tryna help me?
@obsidian wigeon
Check your boot settings in bios
What’s bios
The thing that controls every piece of hardware in the system
Bios is the software that controls your mobo
Well it doesn't detect any bootable drives atm
Gotta assign a drive in the bios, and install some os
So how can I fix this issue on my screen?
This is a step up at least, you can see a video output now
Or you don't have any drives connected
Do you have Windows installed?
ye it's working
No
How do I do that
Do you have another pc or laptop?
Yes
You need a USB drive that's been prepared with the microsoft media creation tool
^
Any usb or a specific one
Anything 8GB+
Any, as long as it's 8 gigs at least
Does it have to be completely empty or could it have some files on there?
Alright
Then use media cration tool
Just google "get windows 10" or something
Microsoft site should have it
I’m gonna back everything up first
@obsidian wigeon
Sorry it took so long had to download 30gb worth of files to the computer so I could wipe the usb
Alright
Is it a complicated process
@obsidian wigeon
What do I do after I download it
nope
Just launch it
Plug usb drive in, and follow through
Just make sure to choose the save to usb option or something
Alright it’s almost done
Then once it finishes, you plug that drive into the pc without os
Get into bios
And assign the usb drive to boot from in boot menu
Where’s the bios?
Sorry, got distracted. So, the bios is when the pc turns on with its logo
It should say press some keys to enter bios
Or setup
Alright so all I gotta do is but the usb inside the pc and press any key to start it up?
@obsidian wigeon
Not really
You turn it on with the usb in, and watch for the first screen, the logo when it first boots up
It should tell you which key to press to enter the bios
ye
Watch the screen closely, and press the key it tells to get into bios
Then show me the screenshot of bios, cause I'm not sure which mobo you got
Alright says my usb is ready but it might take a few minutes to clean it out should I unplug I don’t see a loading bar
Just wait for it
Was it finished?
Yeah I pressed finished
Alright just want to make sure my pc needs to be off and while it’s off I put in the usb then I turn it on and wait for a key?
Alright
@obsidian wigeon
I’m trying it
Alright let’s see what happens
I see the Msi logo
@obsidian wigeon
Anything?
Alright
ye
yeup
Alright easy enough
When will I know when I get to the bios
I guess so
Alright that’s good thanks guys for helping me I wouldn’t have gone this far without anyone here
I have a hdd
Wait
What if I don’t have a activation key do i skip that
skip it
you can do that at any time
and you don't need to buy one for a bazillion dollars
Yes
I’ll see with them
Which one
Your right they have everything in that store and I got 100 on my card anyways so I’ll go over there and get the key when I get the chance
Idk about that nothings free in America
True
Damn
I’ll go tomorrow
I went to Best Buy to buy it and when they told me 130 I went home with nothing
They got Xbox’s in there I’m sure they have a activation key
I sometimes forget people are discovering computers for the first time here
Do I click on “ upgrade: install windows and keep files, setting and applications” or do I press “ custom install windows only (advanced)”
Ik
university offers free winows yet their students live in basement floor apartments with none
For me if I even take off the plastic off the book they only give back 50% refund
Idk what’s up with that
Where do you get them from
university books are a masisve scam
You buy your textbooks?
I think i got through 5 years of college with only buying 12 textbooks
Bet you still spent more then a thousand
saved more than 10
Rent, Buy used
w/e
And pdfs
I can subscribe you to a VERY good domain, mind if i PM?
You bought a stat book?
Im using YouTube to get through stat
My professor said we didn’t need a book he says Kahn academy is good
Ngl I do that😂
What I hated was when I had a professor that wrote the book for the class, told us we had to buy it from the bookstore because we won't find it anywhere else (because only his class used that book lol) and when I got to the library it wasn't even a bound book, it was literally loose leaf in a 3 ring binder for $600.
Bet the bookstore is paying him under the table to tell the students that
He's paying himself to say that, he's the author after all
Advertising his own book it makes sense
wtf?
But guys
Isn't that illegal?
That's a flimsy as hell excuse and he needs to be reprimanded at a minimum. Copyright only applies to others using your work.
Good, as it should be
i diD wHaT I cOuLD
I'm checking that specific error code
That's a corrupt installer, try making the USB again
One of the required files is corrupt, so it can't be written to the computer without damaging other things
It's either a bad installer or the drive doesn't like the installer
The solution is to reinstall windows again on the usb?
Typically yes, unless it's the USB itself that is the issue which you'll find out after redoing the installer
Professors could get away with anything really
Alright thanks fal I’ll install it again
Someone tryna send the windows installation link?
Thanks
You want the installation media tool
So if it fails for a second time what do I do?
Then we can try using a third party utility or another USB drive
I don’t think it’s working it’s been stuck on 26% for a really long time
@potent portal
@obsidian wigeon
Try another USB drive if you have one
Alright
Unless that's the download stage, in which case it's probably delayed
Yeah it says getting files for installation
And it’s been on 26% for like 10 minutes
Be patient lol you are literally downloading the thing that makes a pc a pc
Getting files sounds like the download phase
It's about a 5GB download so it'll take time, and it doesn't always update every %
Like windows updates but better
No but The first time I put it it only took 7 minutes and it was the installing features that got corrupted
It probably didn’t install fully since it got corrupted lol
7 minutes? Geez yeah that sounds like you either have REALLY fast internet or it didn't finish the download correctly the first time
I wiped the usb and redownloaded it
Well I’m gonna wake up to this on 26 percent
Because it’s been 20 minutes and it’s still one 26
In order to download the file in 7 minutes you would need over 600Mb speed internet
I did the math lol
it never gave me the option to put my internet
It just goes at the fastest speed you can give it
Alright my guess is it might not be corrupted since it’s taking so long
@topaz kestrel
Boop
There’s my favorite muffin notice I got it working
The dvi-d?
If it works it works
You’re gonna need a sound bar if you want to be able to hear stuff out of your monitor
Or speaker
S
Ik
Ffs
I’m getting tired of this
What do I expect if it’s stuck at 26 percent for 30 minutes somethings wrong
Oh it was THAT step it got stuck on 26%?
Yeah
That's probably your USB drive, but if you want you can try a third party app
You aren’t downloading some skunked copy of windows right?
Is a 8gb usb drive good?
Fresh off the media installation tool
Only the ones they give me
8GB is fine
Oof no clue then
did you google the error code?
Yeah file is corrupt apparently
Just hold the power button and get some sleep, it'll be there tomorrow
Yes it's a generic corrupt file error
Usually caused by a bad install or drive
Yeah sleep will help you get through it tommorow
Alright thanks muffin and fal I’ll see if I can go get a activation key from my uni tmr as well hopefully it’s cheap
^
Pc still isnt posting and i tried 1 stick ram what next
I swapped the ram out still nothin
@obsidian wigeon
Try every slots first
If I have a corrupt install media what should I do?
Grab windows .iso image
How do I do that
And use rufus to make a bootable drive
Well you could do it thru media creation tool
Just choose the other option
Then once it finishes downloading the disc image file, download rufus
The update now option?
No
Uh, lemme show you then
Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy way
This is for rufus
So basically it cleans the usb
And I believe you only need rufus to do the same thing as media creation tool
But better
Alright so it’s the same process like the media creation tool
Not really, it's a few more but the guide helps
Alright bet I’ll lyk when it’s done
Question
Is it worth buying a 5700G now
And pair it with a 3070-tier GPU down the line?
For 1440p gaming and very light content creation
Point being the 5700G for gaming
I need a CPU+Mobo+RAM to play mainly EU4, HOI4, VIC3 and some minecraft and CSGO for 350ish USD. Those are all very singlethreaded games, and I do no productive or creative work, what should I get?
5600X+B550M PRO-VDH (MSI), Something like 3600mhz CL16 ram will do good
Assuming you're in the US
I think that actually goes over budget.. hmn
So aliexpress is the way to go
Oh rip, well that's sad
I think
Yeah I think there's
3600+B550 combos for 250-260
Lots of room for ram
I suggest buying ram in your country, ali sucks for nice ram
Equal
So just go with whatever's cheaper, but I suggest 3600 due to abundance of combos in ali
Last I've researched
The 3600 is oc'able, so it's better in that regard
I have a hyper212
Will I get a good oc with it?
If you plan to oc just mind that it can't push much
Turn pbo on and you're set tbh for oc
It's auto
Good enough cause ocing is a lot of pain to get it actually stable
pbo knows what's safe for the chip
In both temps and voltage
Hyper 212 is definitely gonna do decent on 3600
pbo on too
Is a 3600x worth the extra 20 dollars
nope
It's a smidge higher core clock
And better bin but nah
Just leave the money for ram
Aight thanks
Only reason I'd get 3600X if price is equal
Cause the X has higher tdp limit, more heat
Or if it's in like a prebuilt or something, like mine
I got a 3600X+1660S prebuilt from asus
What does this mean
vga
VGA is gpu related
graphics card/igpu
don't think boot is on, just shine from VGA
oh
The gpu fans stopped spinning
reseat gpu
Ok
make sure the pcie cables are fully plugged into the gpu, if it requires them
do f1
weird it says vga card is not supported by uefi driver
is it really that old
Its a 3070
cpu fan is prob just plugged into wrong place
yea okay weird error
but just press f1
setup bios
press f1
Ok
My gpu fans arent spinning
as long as it's displaying, just ignore it
fans don't spin if they don't need to spin
Okay
(if it's not doing work and creating heat, no reason to run the fans to dissipate the heat)
Im in bios what now
prob something was plugged in wrong inside
Ngl i think it was all the same
nice im using the same mobo too
lmao
EVGA responded to my broken 3070 ticket
and asked me to do all the troubleshooting steps that I already did
thanks for ignoring everything I wrote EVGA
love that 
Man back like 2 years ago my brother was trying to send in his evga card to have a fan replaced or just buy a new fan from them… they told him it wasn’t worth it and it was to difficult for him to do it on his own. 
Here I was still in the mindset that 2 years ago was the launch of Pascal...
yo, upgrade me pretty please :D budget is about 800$
@unborn shell can you send the ram kit you have?
Actually can you just send your specs in https://pcpartpicker.com/list
its not the same ram but both are ddr4 2400
Hmm
@unborn shell can you send your cpu cooler, case , power supply and monitor?
What 550w tho, brand and model
nop and im pretty sure you made me an upgrade that i couldnt buy because israel sucks
._.
Ahh yeah
Interesting name
Private list
yep
Cuz you'll be getting an matx board, kinda hard to fit a pcie adapter and gpu
Ahh g
So what's the budget in local currency?
im understanding about 10% of what you said
It's aight lol
Okay
@unborn shell do you know any local sites where you can get a new power supply?
Please
What is that
that doesn't look like an atx power supply lol
@unborn shell https://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=1007363 with https://il.pcpartpicker.com/list/zHD4rr
Think thats a bit over actually :/
1 sec
isn't the case same size as what i have rn?
Same case size but the case you have i think is a hard front panel from what i can tell, bad airflow
Ohh it's not the one you had in the pcpp list
If you can remove the power supply that came with it then you should be fine with that case yeah
alr
This one
but it is this one?
https://il.pcpartpicker.com/list/J8kcJf and this then https://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=1007363 you can possibly find cheaper on zap a few things actually lemme look
alr
but maybe i should get a new case so i could sell this pc? it has an APU
i think thats what its called
a gpu in the cpu
The 10400 is a bit cheaper that's about it lol
Up to you but yeah only thing reused is the gpu lol
Corsair DDR 4 16G (8Gx2) 3200 CL16 VENGEANCE LPX Black CMK16GX4M2E3200C16
will this work? its cheaper in israel than the one you gave me
welp-
Yeah the cheapest 3200mhz cl16 kit 2x8gb will be good
alr
so it comes out to 2145
without a case
Antec NX300 Midi Tower is this a good case?
._.
there is a mess with shipping rn so i prefer not to order out of state
Ahh
not really
airflow looks pretty sus
alr ._.
Mx 330 air what you mean?
Looks okay at first glance
Looks nice
You might need to buy extra fans though
POV UR ME: gave up on my pc because I couldn’t get a gpu
No top exhaust sadge but it's still an okay budget option
Yeah, looks like a nice case
Considering all fan slots are filled
Currently running an nx200m case also from antec lol
A little tight on space, but nice otherwise
As in, my hdd cable is permanently bent while installed lol
i would've just waited and bought the parts except for the gpu
You can always get like a gtx 980 to do you until you can find a new one or something
Why arent my gpu fans spinning
If you start a game do they turn on after it heats up a bit? A lot of GPUs have a silent mode where the fans don't spin until it hits a certain temperature
Im reinstalling windows rn ill let yk
idk about the case tbh
NR200 is a common larger ITX case
I like the look of it, because it’s clean and it will take up less space on my desk, but it might be hard to build in
Any ITX case isn't for beginners, I'll tell you that much
wrong chat
nah
That was cringe af
Good
I’m going to go to my local pc shop and get them to build it for me
You could go cheaper on the SSD. The 980 is good but the difference in load times between that and the P31 gold are about 1 second.
That's assuming the P31 comes back in stock of course...
Yep
Probably the 2TB
Nah, 1tb nvme gen 3
I see $115 with a $20 off coupon, and it appears to be in stock sold direct from Hynix https://www.amazon.com/SK-hynix-Gold-500GB-Internal/dp/B08DKB5LWY?th=1
Your in the us aren’t you
Yes, we kinda assume that here unless otherwise stated
Ah I see the AU pcpp link now
Yeah I’m in Australia so it’s of course different, and as I’m writing this the price just went down to 128
Well that's much more reasonable lol
Oof, yeah get what's available
Not a bad option yeah
660p got a controller change and it's no longer a good drive iirc
Here, get one off this list https://github.com/windshields/Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide/blob/main/SSD tier list.md
Gamezoid SSD buying guide, maintained and updated by the Gamezoid team. - Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide/SSD tier list.md at main · windshields/Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide
Most people don't really need more than the budget tier drives. Anything faster won't make any significant change in load and boot times.
All I’m going to be doing is gaming, so I reckon the mp400 is a good choice
