#building-and-recc-chat
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A mc
I cant and i gtg again
@full atlas https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNtzt8
Lemme fix it with the prices at mc I could get
Oh dang wait they don’t have 10400f anymore
That is with the prices at mc
You could do 10400 and b560 and mc for same price as 10400f and b560 elsewhere
I might just go with the i3 at this point or used 10400(f) Bc the new one is almost 2x as much
10300 😎 🔥
It’s not that I can’t afford It’s just I probably don’t need the extra 2 cores for that much more, if mc still had the 10400f for 140$ then I definitely would consider it
10325 🔥🔥🔥
I wish the i3s were priced better so a 10325 could be a compelling chip
super fast i3 cores
10320 😎
Fair enough
You can always upgrade to an 11400 later on or something
Can you mix 16 gb ram with 32 or up
You can if they have the same specs
Cas and speed you mean
Yup
Thank you

I think someone said they don't recommend it but they were specifying like 16 + 8
Don't know if it is across all sizes.
But shouldn't matter too much as long as you have the same specs besides size
Mixing is just not reccomended in general
It's a it can work but it can also not work thing
Ah fair enough. My bad. I misunderstood
Listen to mr.1111
3000 dollar
mr1111 smart
what are some good fans
p14
okay i found them
👍
so would these be okay to put ontop of gpu
yeah probably
not sure how effective it would be but idk what the gpu looks like
but
people dothat
does this only blow one way
well both my pcie slots are 16x 4.0 so i was gunna move my gpu down a slot and put that in
oh wait the top slot is covered by the gpu?
Gpu is in first slot but I was thinking of movinf gpu to second slot and put fan in first slot and blow air into it
yeah that makes sense
you can put the fan above the m.2 slot tho
it doesn't actually occupy a pcie socket
ohhhh
wait would i need to remove the heatsink
will this be good
lol
what are some fun or cool things you guys suggest i could do with a 1U rack server that has two e6 2650s, 8gb of ram, and four 146gb drives
I got it
@austere condor YOU USED A PA120 ARGB WHITE IN THAT BUILD
SICK
never knew it looked that good
defo buying that before price increase
ran out
sadge
no suggestions? 
thats why i was asking if anyone had cool ideas
run a server sounds like a normal thing to do
um.. yes
yea I had actually considered that, but I dont have time to manage or develop my MC server while living at college
I was developing a public 1.17.1 PaperMC server before the semester started
could try to host a unturned server for fun
Oh shoot I used to play that game a bunch back in 2016
Hmm yea that could be an actual option
Unturned servers with plugins tend to be way easier to put together than an MC one
might be fun to return to that game too
I set up a lan server in like 10 minutes although couldn't get it to work because network issues
I remember the biggest unturned servers were PandaHut servers, which the communities were so bad
oh yea I remember playing that from time to time
the first few servers were always full
so I would play on like pvp 8
never encountered admins because I never played on that server that much
thats fortunate lol
spent a lot of my time on a gold server few years ago, knew the people on there, became staff
dang
pretty sure the server still shows up in the server browser but it just doesn't work
they already came out with working 1.17.1 PaperMC jars tho
Yea I might actually consider starting an unturned server, that could be fun for a while. Not sure how I'd get my server out there though. I've never really been part of the Unturned community much
oh damn
they added achievements to unturned
I'm at 46/54 achievements now
might have to do those
People will probably just stumble upon it
true
Does whatever is used to run an unturned server prefer cores or clockspeed?
I know with minecraft it's a decent balance of available cores that can be used if it's on a network like BungeeCord, but mainly a high clockspeed is the most beneficial
not sure
The system I ordered has two e5 2650s, which are low clockspeed 8 core 16t cpus
it also only has 8gb of ram...
but i got it for a good price
decent hard drives too. probably gonna run it in RAID 5 though since it's only four 146GB drives
could try raid 10
hey what is a good hot-swappable mechanical keyboard
keychron
Hmm yea I had considered RAID 5 because I can have the storage-worth of 3 of the drives instead of just 2, as compared with RAID 10. Right? @stoic island
Yea, it probably would run faster in practice too. But they're already 10k SAS drives, which should be more than adequate for running an Unturned server (maybe not so much for MC though as my player-count gets larger).
@stoic island one that has light
fair
hmm yea i have some things to weigh
every keychron board I can think of has hotswap and rgb options
not all are on amazon
oh
some from keychron directly
a BungeeCord server with 100 players would definitely like fast storage. But then I'd only have about 240GB of usable space with RAID 10 lol
ye
Yea I've heard that plenty enough already. I don't need to run another operating system in my case. Windows will do just fine
Oh nvm
Will this work w a 5800x
yea
aorus pro works
It wont need a bios update either
if it does, it has flashback anyways
Ok
uh oh
oh fun
The io is jammed
And its completely stuck
Can i clean thermal paste off my cpu w a q tip
Smth like paper towel is just easier
Isopropyl alcohol wipes are the best to get it off easily if available
It's not like the CPU ihs is fragile
Ill see if i have any
Thermal paste just doesn't come off cleanly usually
The point of thermal paste is to fill in tiny gaps between the ihs and coldplate anyways
This good?
Good nuff for now
Thanks
I have AORUS GeForce RTX™ 3080 XTREME WATERFORCE WB 10G (rev. 2.0). Does anyone have any recommendations on what cooling kit I need? Is it possible to hook this up to a non-DIY cooling option?
HOW DID YOU GET A RTX
i has an rtx
ok
its not that hard
i got it in the newegg shuffle
There are the EK cooling kits which are good for beginners
Or you can try the loop customizer on the EK website
thank you
What’s your cooler on your CPU?
Because you might as well also add the CPU into the custom loop
It is an all new build. Would that be best?
If you have the extra money then I would definitely do that
I’ve been in the same place as you’re in now and I decided that a GPU only custom loop isn’t really worth it
I am a noob with custom cooling, so would I need to separate kits to incorporate the CPU
Just go through the EK loop configurator and it will set that all up for you
Just make sure that you select that you already have a GPU water block
that is very helpful, thank you
@bold root remember that you should not do hard tube to start off if it's your first custom loop
I appreciate that. I just am reading about that and hard tube needing a heat gun. I am not ready for that.
Also, keep in mind ek kinda really expensive
Well, custom loop in general is expensive
For very little performance gain
I would be ok NOT doing custom job. But I have been trying to get a 3080 for over a year. I got this GPU because I was selected in the shuffle. I wish this could just hook up to a prebuilt cooling option
you could try to trade it to someone for a normal air cooled model
I would be worried about getting scammed.
well you can try doing a local sealed box trade
custom loops will add a lot of cost to your build
if you're not excited about the idea of building a custom loop better trade
Yeah kinda forgot to mention that 😅
you're looking at like $200 for a basic loop
and the more advanced ones exceed $500
More like $400 for just the gpu if you want something well performing
and I know those wb 3080s from shuffle aren't cheap
you should be able to get away with a single rad and single pump no? assuming WB cost is already factored
even if you 480 rad I don't see how it would hit 400
Fittings, res, tubing
well yeah
I figured those didn't need to be mentioned
a 240 rad should be good enough
Earlier this year I was planning out a gpu only loop and pretty much everything I did came out to around $400
I know ryo spent like 400$ or so for his watercooled card
And that’s not including the waterblock
Bykski kit? They should
I remember they'd give you everything for a single 240mm loop for under $200
@cursive wharf gib updated link plz
and bykski is decent
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whats a fast and easy way to completely wipe a boot drive?
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Easy would be the usual wiping options you can find in bios, good way would be like DBAN
well I'm not sure the limited bios on this crap hp thing can do that
this was what I was thinking of yeah
could just sell the cpu/gpu block
I've heard good things about dban so it's here
https://dban.org/
Erase hard drives, desktops, laptops or servers free with a Darik's Boot and Nuke (DBAN) download. Try it now.
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@stoic island I like the soft tubing one. Can ask to switch over to hardtubing as well, or look for a hard tubing kit.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000807277229.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.846036benAy4WR
Yeye I like soft tubing too
What do you guys think of this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LZqGy4
it's a start, good amount to improve upon though.
@hollow frigate To start off, SSD.
Do you think it will run warzone?
the list needs improvements to be a well rounded list first.
For example, having a SSD
Do you want warzone to load in 50 seconds or load in 10 seconds kinda thing
As well as doing more budgeting for GPU
so ssd
My budget is $1100
ig it'll be simplier to just edit the list
Hell never last 10 seconds get outta here
1100
who
I've noticed
@hollow frigate updated list that gives you 80$ extra to spend on a GPU, hopefully a 3060 if possible, otherwise 2060/super, or at least a 1660 super would be nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7yGy4
@stoic island 11400F gone still?
Thanks
11400f too popular kek
don't like suggesting -f considering current situation but yea, gone...
Meanwhile my country has normal pricing
:(
Different markets
when the world needed i5-11400 the most, it vanished
Also is something like i5 3570 say worth 50 bucks in a mobo combo?
which mobo
It's some asus P77 I think
There is 10400F tho. Not as good, but better over all honestly cuz more GPU
I just randomly stumbled into one
yeah i'd rather go 10400F + 2070S > 5600X + 2060
Not actually buyin kek
Actually 10400 just $5 more then F and is apparently in stock
It is by Adorama tho so idk shipping
yea prob better option atm
PROBLEM
Razer keyboard don't work to get into bios
so going to my mom's work to borrow a spare keyboard she has
plugged new nvme drive into first m.2 port as is recommended
neither windows installer nor my motherboard see it
checked if it was installed properly, it is
@jovial radish do you have an intel 10th gen cpu in a 500 series chipset?
trying the other port tomorrow (I don't feel like tinkering anymore today) but I don't see why it isn't being detected
no, ryzen 3700x in a b550 motherboard
unfortunate
is it an asus board?
i had a z490 strix that really struggled to detect ssds
might be an asus problem
msi b550-a pro
ah
welp
one of them might be defective
or maybe you didn't plug in the drive all the way
not much else you can mess up with an m.2 drive
no cables
yeah
Maybe you forgot to turn it on with the power button
Didn't you know ssds have power button
lol

new motherboard too
/j aside my grandpa has an older Intel HEDT platform with some Samsung m.2 drive and it always messes up boot order according to him
M.2 weird
my m.2 is a cheap offbrand one
could be my system just doesn't like it
it won't make a difference if I have to use the other port as it's not a 4x4 drive
just hoping it's not dead
all usb?
yeah
got a ps/2 port?
yeah but no PS2 keebs
uh oh
see if you can get an adapter or borrow an old ps/2 keyboard
if anyone still has one
if that doesn't work
my guess is something shorted
but it's a very rough guess
I would say bios is the issue and I should flash to the updated one. But it boots to the screen that tells me press del or f2 so I don't think that's the issue
I would tend to agree
but it's really odd to me that of all things it won't detect any keyboards
well i might just get this https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041
Keychron K8 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. Tenkeyless Layout. Wireless or Wired. and users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Keychron Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. 15+ RGB Backlight
maybe I'll just flash bios
I'll try one more thing
dram light is also orange so hopefully I didn't mess up the ports or something
I'll try swapping it around
ye that's good
and I will just try them out
and since they are hot swapable that is even better
and should I get Optical Switch or Keychron Optical
neither
get gateron hotswap
I am a K8 owner
Older pic but whatever
tkl is tkl, it's basically the same size for most tkl boards
big or small is relative

yeye
eh, keychron c2 hotswap is a thing
i was talking about this one https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard
Keychron K10 Wireless mechanical keyboard has included keycaps for both Windows and macOS, and users can hotswap every switch in seconds; with the hot-swappable version. Please drop your email on "Notify Me When Available" if the product model is out of stock.
tbh I really like tkl, you don't really need numpad
wat
how
is your sister like 6
wat
ineffective
excuse me what
take the keycap off
show her
use a switch puller
take it out
show her the big ol' Gateron on it
"they're reds"
And I'm a potato
I’m having trouble installing a sea gate hard drive to a Bgears b-Voguish case can anyone help me with that?
Tried its too big
Cheap cases 🤷♂️
It's supposed to fit how you have it in the picture, but cheap cases you might need to bend a little
Damn
Had a question about using a Samsung 870 qvo 2tb ssd in a desktop and a set of teamgroup xtreem argb 3600mhz CL18, ddr4 288 pin ram, either 8gbx2 or 16gbx2, and if anyone had recommendations
keybord is keybord 
What do you mean recommendations? 870 is a halfway decent drive, 3600 c18 is meh, and most people don't need more than 2x8gb
compoopor is compoopor 
you know what, send her this
https://keyboard.university/100-courses/switches-101-xnyng
Switches put the ‘mechanical’ in ‘mechanical keyboards’ and make up the backbone of this entire passion. These little mechanisms have just as much character as keycaps and cases, despite being largely unseen, and understanding what goes into them is important to understanding how keyboards work.
3600c18 sad
3600c16 usually same price or cheaper than 3600c18 rgb sticks
Some people put looks over performance 🤷♂️
Well thanks for the info, or lack thereof, will just stick to the 500gb ssd and 16gb 2400hz I already have
You never really said what info you wanted though?
Was wondering if itd be worth buying as upgrades, but being dunked on is all I needed. Thanks.
I mean, the info is that this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083V93HJG
performs better and is cheaper than
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1Q32H7
definitely worth upgrading from 2400mhz ram tbh
as for storage needs only you can answer how much storage you need
What's the budget of your upgrade? We can give better suggestions
About 300, why the ssd was just a booster to store games on, the rams the real upgrade at need
do you have an extra m.2 slot capable of NVMe
because smth like mp33 2tb will cost pretty close to 870qvo 2tb
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beans tho
I have it, but Ive heard doubling on nvme might start drawing off of the 3070 gfx
Depends on the board
what motherboard?
most should not split pcie_1 bandwidth with m.2 slots
usually shared bandwidth is like if you use m.2_2 you can't use SATA_5 and SATA_6
m.2 3090
or like PCIe_4&PCIe_5 that are both x1 slots kinda thing
B560M DS3H, Gigabyte mobo
11th gen chip?
Yes, 11th gen I7 11700F
damn ds3h does it really weirdly
won't do anything if you have an NVMe ssd in m.2_2 but apparently SATA_1 will be disabled if you use a SATA m.2 ssd for m.2_2..?
but anyways
doesn't share bandwidth w pcie slots it seems
shouldn't affect any of that
Ah ok, like I said, mem was just a dump tank for games so could double that since it has two slots, just heard from a friend it might start interfering with how the gpu operates
In some cases it might but not this case
I don't know of any setups where m.2_2 will interfere with any x16 slots
anyways
keep in mind mixing ram makes the ram run at the lowest speed, and does not always even run
So always run ram of the same speed and timing
Why I was planning a full upgrade to keep it at 16gb with higher mhz minimum
Preferably just the same sticks
(2x8 2400c15 + 2x8 3600c16 = 4x8 sticks running at 2400c15)
Again, just gonna rip those lower ones out cause it wouldnt be worth underutilizing the better ones
My m.2_2 will disable pcie_4
This drive: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08CDM2HSS
Plus this memory: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B083V93HJG
That's what I'd do
yeye
$300 or so they said
Yep, hits all points, work was generous, giving me a few 50 gc
That'd be pretty hecking whack, chipset lane usage affecting CPU lane usage
Since sn550 is off the list now...
yeye
:( rip sn550
Id say higher, but this is a comfy spot between price and performance
sn550 still okay
Pilot E is the next cheapest good one at $219, SN550 is even more
They swap cache tho
That only affects certain power users
You'd have to fill the cache in order to get the speed issue, and it's a pretty good size cache still
Thanks for the suggestionsat least, and the info, will def look at these for payday
hooray
Idle doesn't matter, only full load temp
I'll rephrase, is it average for idle temps
It could idle at 60 but if it peaks at 80 it's still fine
All average idle temperature tells you is your room temperature
Ay
Hey if you want to see 90c+ just run smallfft
Like mine idles around 50 but never goes above 80
Hehe
Except with smallfft
sorry for being dense, mind is broken from doing nothing but PC building and troubleshooting
all day pretty much
Smallfft is just insane
Smallfft fun
One of the fs stands for fun
whats prime 95 then
It calculates prime numbers, but it makes a good stress test for CPUs
If you take him as satirical it's actually really fun to watch
Just purchased the keyboard https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041
Keychron K8 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. Tenkeyless Layout. Wireless or Wired. and users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Keychron Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. 15+ RGB Backlight
Just purchased the keyboard
noice
cant wait to try this out and its my first mechanical keyboard
MKBHD uses this keyboard.
really
yes
nice did he say anything about it
how much would a high end pc cost after the gpu shortage
define high end
by the time gpu shortage ends, 5000 series nvidia cards will be out
high end rn will not be high end then
lol
3090 will be 2 generations old
amd might still be better than intel
and with ddr5 ram capacity will go up
so the pc you described could be midrange by the time stock shortage is over
lol
whats an intel i11 lmfao
what i ment by originall question if the shortage didnt exsist what are the prices
then go build a system in https://pcpartpicker.com and google msrps for the cards and parts
nice
ive choosen an rtx 3080ti and the full pc not including the gpu is 1500$ and the gpu made it 3500$
bruh
Welcome to shortages and scalpers
@fast dust why are you using a 3080 with a 650w psu?
If you wanna send a https://pcpartpicker.com/list link with your parts can probs reduce the price a good bit
Ohh
Jeez
What's the use case and what budget would you be aiming for @sour sage
And have you bought anything?
Yeah that can easily be changed up and still have a better budget with more performance
Why do you need 64gb ram?
Ignore that forgot storage
@sour sage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbLzt8
Comes out at 3080$ to match the 3080 😎
Lol i was about to make that edit for ya pato with the same storage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqR2Xb
But i see ya beat me to it lol
two things
you dont need an aio
For 5800x you kinda do
wait thats one thing
Its a 5800x a miniature sun
^
Try to take a bowl of boiling water then try to blow on it in Arizona weather then tell me its not burning itself to the point of evaporation lol i will never air cool a 5800x
I mean technically but poor choice
Paywall ;-;
wdym
oh the cookies
Just stuck in translate lol
what
@winged lion they tested that on a 1700x ;-;
oh wait
oops
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this one is testing on the 5800x
Yeah it's hitting around 85c ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Not very optimal
Especially with pbo the lower the cpu temp the higher it will boost
def below throttle though
ok thats true tho
wait, in what testing
This
haven't been able to watch the video in a while
no i mean what RPM and stuff
thank
ok so those temps are actually like 105c
Not good temps anyway lol
i mean, i do want to know temps without all core curve and just pbo
you are right though 5800x is a beast on oc
Miniature sun
How to make an easy bake oven (list Nzxt case, air cooled 5800x, ventus 3090, 1200w psu flipped inverted with fan pulling air from inside of case)
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agreed
lol u forgor 11900k?
mini itx case with no vents
marshmello as thermal paste
Works for me
screenshot it
you also forgor replacing psu fan with nf-f12 because noctua good
u forgot this psu
the fact thats its 3 usd and has a 2 year warranty
ok i got a better screenshot
Oh thx I thought they didn't fit
The screws
You're welcome
600w psu 
@fossil cedar this

Bro dont use thermal paste
Thermal bacon
First
Just do it as you build
Oh I'm done building
Then just put in the cables that need to be plugged in lol?
Yeah ok
Make sure you actually plug them in
Thats actually bologna
And don’t plug them into your dog
Ok
Don’t eat the cables either
I already had it.
This FTW3 3080 only spikes to around 500w anyways which leaves 150w for my little 3600 XT plus rest of my system, and I never 100% utilize the 3080 anyways
I mean fair but ideally you don't wanna use more than about 520w of a 650w psu as it's better for life span and energy efficiency of psu btw
Surprised it doesn't trip
Sorry thought it was an 80 ti as well
Bruh I play valorant at 1440p 170Hz low settings the 3080 is a bit much for me lol
It gets 60% utilized maybe
I’m not boutta spend another $110 for a new psu when this one will work just fine for me
Unless there’s another $70 sale on a 750w Leadex III or something I’m sticking with this AMP
And I’m probably gonna undervolt a bit too for more added security
Fair
Omg
No no no
@fossil cedar do you remember when only the motherboard rgb turned on
Well it was fixed and now it happened again
It had something to do with the bios
What do I do?
I cannot remember sorry ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@mortal void if you want to improve that cable management try routing all of the front panel cables along the bottom of the mobo instead of using the bottom routing holes like this. best way to make matx in atx case look good imo
Was consider going from a 2070 / 3700x combo to a 3070ti / 10850k combo
is it a worthwhile upgrade if i’m fortunate enough to win a shuffle on newegg for the card? I game pretty heavily and love my graphics with performance when doable and want to move to video recording and editing in the near future
you can also try hiding that rgb strip along the top it would help hide/diffuse it and also help with the cable management
depends on the price, shuffle has been selling some cards for more expensive than scalpers
I found one today for a little bit less than 1k usd
i would say there's not much point in upgrading the 3700x
i usually wait until i see one that’s not in a combo
focus on the gpu
if you want a cpu upgrade wait until second gen ddr5
3700x is still very capable for video editing and it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to invest in a whole new platform
if you really want to get serious about professional video editing, a drop in upgrade to a used 3900x or even getting a 5900x would be smarter
i would not buy a 3070ti for 1k usd
3070ti offers like 5% more performance over the 3070 for 40% more power draw
i feel like 3070ti is the real black sheep of the ampere family and nobody talks about it lol
even worse than 3060
Well what motherboard do you have? If it's a good one you could do a drop in 5900x upgrade
just look at these two builds i did, one with a 3070 and one with a 3070ti
i guess the only reason i thought about a platform switch is because i’m probably going to create a whole new system, ready to sell my matx build
3070ti winning by 2.9% lol
If you needed more cores
i have the b550 tuf
and the 3070ti is running way hotter
That's a good board
i guess at this at this point i’m looking at maybe just a gpu upgrade
i’m hoping i can find a decent deal on a dual fan card though to fit better in my build
not looking to top mount my aio again
3700x to 10850k would be a lot of money for a small upgrade on a dead end path
why not? top mount aio is superior
top mount aio gives you better gpu performance
in the corsair crystal 280x i’m not so sure
i’ve had better temps with the front mount
ah, a glass oven
this actually upsets me LOL
something more low profile than my rgb mess
it was 2nd ever build and i thought it looked cool lmao
but i’ve managed to get over the aesthetics phase and now i want performance and low profile
oh i'm not upset at you
i'm upset at corsair
like come on corsair we know you hate making quality products
but don't you think this is taking it too far
no top exhaust... just a sheet of glass
no front intake... just a sheet of glass
💀
may as well take off the glass panels so you have a functioning case
i went for an o11 cause i like the glass panel look but i'm not willing to sacrifice performance for it
bottom intake is superior anyways
having 3 fans blowing directly on my gpu does very nice things for the temp
i considered that case but i think i’m eyeballing the phanteks p400a
but also the o11 looks rlly good imo
i found a used deal on it for $100
would have a hard time justifying full price on it
p400a is a great case
i’ll definitely have to do more research but i’ll think about saving and investing a little more for a 5900x and possibly go for a little bit more than the 3070 ti
basically need to do more gpu research
Just think of 3070 and 3070 ti as the same gpu btw just whichever you can get your hands on for a decent price
i'd argue the 3070ti is worse but i care about power draw
Guys buy 4 3090s
40% more power draw for 5% more performance is not a good trade imo
Yeah true but if you just ignore that lol
some people would happily ignore it but not me
3070ti is still worth buying if you get it at a very nice price
but i'd rather have a 3070 if i had the choice
I mean beggers cant be choosers tbf
yeah i'm just saying in a situation where there was a choice between 3070 and 3070ti at the same price
i would personally pick 3070
if only i had this much to my name LOL
honestly if i can find any of the dual fan cards to fit in my current system for a decent price they would be ideal
@potent portal I just got a job
So I'm planning a 2000 dollar game build for 1440p
What's the sort of setup I can get away with (if a 3080 can fit into 2k, all the better)
ive got a build for a 2070
i mean 3060
no operateing system
still saveing up for it myself
do dual fan 3070tis even exist
oh
there is literally only one model of dual fan 3070 ti
and it doesn't sell in the US
well, except FE
but FE is super rare
i wish they made more single-fan 3070s
reeeeee why
but idk how difficult that is
this is the only dual fan 3070ti besides FE
why less fans?
leaf blower mode engaged
You don't really want a dual fan 3070 tbh
Yeah you can
yeah it was either that for my compact space heater of a build or a new build
3070 hotter than 2070
You'll want to get 3600 ballistix instead and change the case and get a larger aio if possible
personally was looking at a new build but gpu stock is obviously an issue
3080 under 2 grand
While having to buy all peripherals?
unlikely
without peripherals tho
Oh hell yeah
Didn't realize you meant including peripherals
I can get those later
Get a shitty-ass keyboard and reuse the very old mouse I have with my laptop
so I'll probably do that
okay if I include peripherals as well
What can be done
AMD is preferred in terms of CPU
Do you need wifi etc?
it's a nice bonus, but not mandatory
i need a USB PCIe expansion lol
if it's like 20 bucks price difference, sure
Reason: Bad word usage
but if it costs a hundred more, hell no
i think a nice PCIe WiFi card is around $70(?)
any recommendations for a 600-700w PSU for a 3060ti and 5600x
Whats your budget?
opinion on the samsung 980? 🤔
Over priced for its performance
Hey I have a sorta complicated question that's related to running 2-3 gameservers at once. DM me if you'd like to help (i dont wanna post it here because it's a lot of info and I dont wanna disturb any conversations)
@tawny violet you could do something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mt4yGq
Msi agf 750w
ah, the good old fuma 2
MSI MPG A-GF 750w is a perfect choice
Oh pato beat me again crud
maybe you could help with my question lol
If its based on running a server im not the one lol rip
Get a mushkin pilot e or sk hynix p31 instead
Crucial P2 1TB?
@fossil cedar @formal girder thanks, almost exactly what I was looking for and it's on sale right now
it's cheap
But is it good?
It's meh
Np
P2 is pretty crap for the price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YwptMv@tawny violet you could do this
im already hooked back into PC building
and it hasn't even been a year since my first build
It's fun
fun and expensive, a bad mix lol
Indeed
Can confirm
oh no i dont need anymore storage
just wanted to hear what yall think
Yeah samsung isnt really worth it imo
If i ran up to a rock and slapped a samsung logo on it, the value would skyrocket but with no reasoning other than "Name"
Ahh well yeah it's decent for 100$ but poor price
woah
no one chatted here
for like 1 hour now
usually this chat is insanely active
W O A H H
lol
Not really
Uh
As long as it's not leaking
The fins are just metal fins, more important is that you didn't screw into the inside
are AIOs difficult to install compared to a regular air cooler?
interested in getting one but I don't know if I wanna spend the extra time getting it setup
Not really, same process, just you need to install the rad.
If its not leaking it should be fine
There will be performance difference but just hope it doesnt leak
Guess ill find out tmr if it leaks or not when my mobo comes
alright, thanks!

@solid dust tell me did I get scammed and buy a rtx 3060 or is it a 3090? 🤣
?
Yeah thats usd
Yea it’s usd
U deffo got scammed
But its an open box product so it can be defective
Thats a scam
Msrp iirc is $1500
Ye
Wait give it a sec I’m tryna send a pic it’s slow as hell
Could also just be the headspreader and someone bought it just for the pcb to put a water block on
They have proof of holding gpu
But they could mail the open box
Then they gonna send you an empty box with a tracking number
Could have missing thermal pads
@queen heath is it an irl deal, or they mail it

That's a 100$ fix if you got someone to do it for you tbf no way in hell
They’re gonna mail it
That’s fake
It's a scam!!!
It’s a 3060 isn’t it?
Please do not buy that
no its just box
There isnt gonna be a gpu inside
That’s a 3090 box or just a 3090 heatspreader
It says 3090 in the listing but it's not gonna be a 3090
Lol watch there be a Gtx 1030 in there
Most likely a 3090 empty box or nothing at all
I paid more than that for my msrp 3070
My 3090 was $1600 so thats a scam you got on your hands buddy
I wouldn’t go for that unless you want to pay 750 for a mystery box
Or it’s a printed picture trying to bait bots to resell
Lol imagine if it was real and some father was selling parts from his sons pc as punishment and guess how much it cost lol
Its a scam
It’s probably a real card, but they won’t send you the real one sadly
They can take all the pictures in the world but not send you the actual product
^^
Gt 710
I’m just gonna return them with a gtx 1030 and sell the graphics card for close to msrp and make a profit.
Depends on what it is
IT IS A SCAM sending more pictures for us to look at wont change that lol
did you already buy it?
Idk, I wouldnt even buy it, it’s allowing them to make money
I would just wait and buy a legit card from a retailer
Then can ship you an empty cardboard box, and then disappear off of ebay
Not even the gpu box
Oh no I was just saying if it’s a 3060 now I obviously see now we’ll then at least profit
Or ship a picture of the card in an envelope
You won't be getting a graphics card if you buy that ;-;
That’s a very thin slab of ice, I would just buy one legibly
Legittly
Legitimately
iPhone autocorrect 
Don't buy it just buy a legit scalped 3060 at that price ;-;
I already bought is the thing which really sucks money back guarantee tho
Start the refund process asap before the seller disappears off of eBay imo
Your right might as well wait for 3080 to reach msrp or $1k at least.
hey guys to remove preapplied thermal paste what is the best type of alcohol
You can get 3080s for 1k
vodka
Anything 80% and up

Way too low and full of water
Where 1k is pretty rare these days people pulled it up to 1.5
Rubbing, isopropyl,
thanks
#graphics-cards pins
Np
So I have wait for drops or something on the channel?
so my m.2 drive is detected in m.2 port 2 but not m.2 port 1, which the manual suggests to use

it's fine since both the second port and drive are gen 3x4 but kinda odd
Honestly, just a paper/shop towel takes paste off well enough. Don't need iso, but might as well get it clean if you're only mounting once every few years.
what about the little fibers that paper leaves?
It's not hard not to leave many, won't matter
paper towel doesn't leave much behind at all
If you really want, you can buy the low lint shop towels for like $3 a roll
in fact a dry wipe the first time will get a pretty good amount of the paste off, then you can use iso to get the rest
If you do use iso at all - do this
No-lint Microfiber is ideal
should I get a 31' monitor or 27', for 1440p
e
27 inch would have a better feel imo
Wait... Your saying 31 foot not inches cause '-is foot "-is inches
yeah
it feels pretty comfortable
from my personal experience my 27inch curved dell monitor feels pretty big and is perfect to get the jjob done
I'll grab a 27" then, it'll take a bit more saving but it'll be worth it
how many hertz are u looking for
144
nice thats what i use
what one do you use now
oh i still use the 144hz panel
i dont plan on getting another one higher than that
oh lol
its this one
idk how to shorten links lol
Get a Gigabyte M27Q or something in that name
but secret upscaling 😈
but if ur getting a 1440P or higher monitor dont get the dell one
The M27Q is brilliant monitor choice
is this decent?
it's G27Q
M27Q looks good too
and it's only a little bit more expensive
M27Q will do what you wish but im a little unfamiliar with the G variant of it
I might go for the M27Q then
Here's a quick comparison
Its so much better and wonderful for 1440p gaming
basically same price but the M one looks better
M27Q it is thanks
M performs better
alright cheers!
I got half my PC today! The case, cpu cooler, and monitor. Everything else comes tomorrow. I'm am very excited
nice
nice! send your parts list, what'd you get?
MY PC
CPU: 5800X
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra Gaming 8 GB
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz (2 x 8 GB)
STORAGE: 1 TB M.2 ssd, and 2tb HDD
PSU: 750W psu
MOBO: TUF X570 Gaming Plus WIFI
CASE: Lian li lancool II mesh rgb
CPU COOLER: Scythe fuma 2
MONITOR: Tuf VG27WQ 1440p 165hz
KEYBOARD: iKBC CD108 v2
and it came with a free copy of battlefield 2042, and a extra mouse
The ram I would have gotten the cheaper ripjaws or vengeance, but it came bundled for about the same price as those.
The entire thing cost $2500 ($2680 ish with tax)
with bundles and sales i got about $700 USD off
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i cant help but want to take everything and open the case and open extra pieces bags and start building it. except i dont have the internals of the pc to build it with
all i got open is the monitor because my family wanted to see it, and i checked to make sure it works. and i got the case out of the box and just sitting wraped up in the plastic cover to save space
Where are the motherboard screws supposed to be because they weren’t in my motherboard
Which screw bag for mobo
Bottom left
Check the case for any boxes
Mine was inside the hdd bay
Pc case?
ye
Alright
I really hope you get the updated version of that x570 or have a compatible cpu
Motherboard box😩
X570 plus wifi has no bios flashback sadly
Even tho at it's price point it def should
a 5800x is a am4 socket. and i checked, it will be updated on arrival
Socket doesn't matter, it's the bios
it was released p early but yea
Yeah it's all bios
