building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

Really solid component list

[little osprey]

So it’s a good laptop?

If so, I may just get it instead, I already know prebuilts can be very pricey

[potent portal]

Yep still in stock

https://skytechgaming.com/product/blaze-3-0-intel-core-i7-11700k-nvidia-geforce-rtx-8gb-1tb-nvme-ssd-16gb-ram/

Includes 27" 1080p 144Hz monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, and a game

[little osprey]

No reviews on it…

[potent portal]

The company itself got glowing reviews though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYyBeYW4FX4

[little osprey]

Might just buy both then 👀

[potent portal]

Boy I wish I had that kind of money to get both lol

[little osprey]

Same, I wish I had that kind of money too

[tight sorrel]

@little osprey , please neaten those cables bruh.

[frank stirrup]

eh its fine

mine are worse lol

[tight sorrel]

hang your head in shame

welcome back btw

[frank stirrup]

Thanks!

[frank stirrup]

TBF tho they are under the desk behind my ups so not very visible

[tight sorrel]

hidden is fine

[frank stirrup]

they also arent neon green

[tight sorrel]

this is an easy fix, and would improve the build like ten fold

[tight sorrel]

whats the white cable?

[frank stirrup]

micro usb for my xbox controller

[clever eagle]

so many cables

you dont wanna see the back of my pc

just saying

[tight sorrel]

Im not saying all cables need to be super neat (back of my PC is no renneisance painting either) , just ones that are in high visibility areas.

[clever eagle]

yes i cable managed those

[still roost]

! Ander#7356 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

! Ander#7356 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

Pushkar#1111 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clever eagle]

what

[unborn kite]

Hyped

Only 662€ (786$)

[clever eagle]

cheap

here its 1250

[fossil cedar]

Aud?

[fossil cedar]

Pog

[fossil cedar]

Btw probs best not to price convert, can cause a lot of confusion

[clever eagle]

afford = no
am poor

[fossil cedar]

What?

[vague oracle]

Or just figure out good camera angles to hide the cables

That’s kind of what I did

[verbal quarry]

What is a good 650w psu for cheap?

[visual sun]

witch is best?

CyberPowerPC - Gamer Xtreme Gaming Desktop - Intel Core 17-11700F - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 1TB HDD + 500GB SSD - Black 1500 price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n3yJJf 1800 price

is the seond better and is the price worth it?

[stoic island]

Bottom one just gets you more things if you can get a GPU

@visual sun but you can get a much better prebuilt

There's a 3070 abs prebuilt on wegg for 1800

[earnest olive]

what's the point of having cables if you can't play jump rope with them between matches

[tight sorrel]

Best argument so far, you've convinced me

[peak ginkgo]

This

[earnest olive]

better not lose or your monitor falls off the desk

[fossil cedar]

For what specs?

[verbal quarry]

5600x/3060ti

[fast dust]

What’s your definition of crap?

Cheap****

Enermax Revolution DF 650w or MSI A650GF are good choices

Or if you budget is more like $45-55 a CWT GPU-V/R on eBay would work really well too, considering the GPU-V is literally the exact same as both of those just with a worse fan

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na probs this if you can reach for an msi agf

[fast dust]

I’d rather get a used CWT GPU-V fr fr

If you wanna stick to new yeah CX is fine

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Channel-Well-Technology-CWT-GPU650V-Gold-650W-Desktop-Switching-Power-Supply-PSU-/185018064451?

The exact OEM as the AGF and Revo DF

[little osprey]

hey was looking to build something high end with a budget of maybe 2k

would a ryzen 7 5800x be a cpu i get?

[fast dust]

Sure, you could. You could also take a look at something like an 11700k or 10850k from intel for cheaper

[verbal quarry]

The one I got sent works for what I need.

Also I need a cooler for the 5600x

[fast dust]

You gonna be doing overclocking?

Which PSU did you get sent btw

That CX?

[hazy wadi]

Use intel stock cooler

[lavish orbit]

I was wondering should I upgrade now or wait 2 or even 3 years to upgrade
I have a i7 8700k, gigabyte aorus ultra z390, 32gb ram, gtx 1060 3gb, corsair hx 860i psu, should I upgrade now or save as the game that I want to play isn't out and I don't really have any games I want to play but I do stream on a 4k monitor

[potent portal]

1060 3gb isn't going to work well for 4k at all. If you can afford to get it soon your best bet for getting a GPU in the US right now is Newegg Shuffle, or in person at best buy or microcenter

It's not worth buying scalped GPUs unless you don't have one at all

[little osprey]

when would the gpus be back in stock?

[potent portal]

They restock at different intervals depending on where you look

Newegg has the shuffle almost daily

Best buy does like twice a month

Microcenter is a few times a week

[lavish orbit]

the game I want to play isn't going to come out for at least 6 months

so I was thinking of getting a rtx 3060ti

[potent portal]

Might as well wait a little bit
3060 ti isn't great for 4k, it's more targeted at 1440p

It might take a couple months of effort to get a GPU, keep that in mind

[lavish orbit]

so I should just keep my system as is besides gpu, I can get a 3080 but because this game is a mmorpg, I am not sure if a 3060ti vs 3080 makes a huge difference in 4k for those types of games

[verbal quarry]

Yea the non modular one

I'm not planning to oc but this is a build for a friend who is trying to get into pc

[potent portal]

Is it the Harry Potter one?
It's too early to tell how much vram it'll use and other resources anyway

[lavish orbit]

what do you mean harry potter one

[potent portal]

Ah wait no the one I'm thinking of is ARPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_Legacy

[lavish orbit]

no but I might check it out if it's not like the previous harry potter games where wands are like guns

[potent portal]

There's some leaked gameplay footage from 2018 but who knows if that's still accurate

It's open world and everything which is nice compared to previous games that were basically on rails

[fossil cedar]

Ideally scythe fuma 2 but id cooling se 224 xt, gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 are all decent choices too but might struggle a bit

[lavish orbit]

will amd am5 socket cpu be ddr4 or ddr5

[potent portal]

DDR5

Intel tends to have a little overlap, sometimes boards support previous and next gen DDR, but AMD doesn't do that

[fossil cedar]

The previous gen ddr boards tank the perf anyway so

[potent portal]

Yeah and they only have half the memory slots for each

[lavish orbit]

ddr5 which means it's going to be like $300 for 32gb again

[fossil cedar]

Uhhhh possibly

Am5 wont be out til next year anyway

So prices might improve a bit

[potent portal]

Too early to tell

[lavish orbit]

is it worth getting a gpu now or wait until intel arc comes out

[fast dust]

My two favorite budget cooler options that would be great for a 5600X are the Gelid Phantom and Thermalright PA120. Both dual tower and dual fan coolers with great price to performance. Absolutely goated.

[fossil cedar]

But atm team are selling a highly binned 16gb kit for 300$

Soooo

I wouldn't keep your hopes up

[fossil cedar]

Noone knows, also intel arc aint coming til rtx 4000 anyway soo.

Uhh falcie did they instantly delete the ping to me or?

I saw something pop up for half a sec?

[potent portal]

Nah it was a link

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[lavish orbit]

The first 32GB DDR5 RAM kit lands at retail for $311 and it’s already sold out

[potent portal]

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-first-32gb-kit-of-ddr5-4800-ram-lands-at-retail-for-dollar311-and-its-already-sold-out/

First runs of DDR5 aren't going to be great, basically a trial run. Yields will be low and costs will be high.

[fossil cedar]

Well there's probs not much stock atm, or they only letting a certain amount of stock to be bought atm imo

[fast dust]

Wait is that divot right in the middle of that stick lol? It looks like a pain to line up where it goes

[lavish orbit]

so get a 3080 or 3080ti at msrp and upgrade the rest later on

[potent portal]

Ideally yes

[potent portal]

Not directly in the middle, it'll still only fit one way

[fast dust]

Yeah I know they’re not but it’s so close

[lavish orbit]

my 32gb ram is 3333 speed so I guess it's decent

[fast dust]

It’s already a pain trying to line up the DDR4 bump

[potent portal]

3333 is pretty decent for 8700k yeah

[earnest olive]

buys early ddr5
nowhere to install it yet
waits months for alder lake
finally get to install your new ddr5
it's defective
return window ended 3 months ago

[fast dust]

Risk worth taking

Just make a DDR4 slot to DDR5 slot adapter

[earnest olive]

you're a risk worth taking

[lavish orbit]

I generally wait for beta testers to buy it before I do

[earnest olive]

👉 👈

[lavish orbit]

like every new tech there are bugs and glitches

[earnest olive]

zen 3 spent most of its lifespan in beta testing 😔

[lavish orbit]

next gen gpu midrange is probably going to be like $800 rip with the increase in raw materials

[earnest olive]

I just want to not lose silicon lottery

I have the worst 3080 in the world

give me golden sample 4080

[lavish orbit]

you can always give it to me I will gladly take it out of your hands

[earnest olive]

okay

catch

just imagine that's a 3080 okay

[lavish orbit]

nvidia with their bs of oh miners won't be able to mine with Lhr

[earnest olive]

idk it just really annoys me that my 3080 can barely overclock at all

[potent portal]

I'd take an ok 3080 over my crappy 3090

[earnest olive]

other people pushing +1500 mem easily and I'm here with my +275 8)

[lavish orbit]

I have a 1060 3gb not sure why your all crying

[earnest olive]

because I went through the same pain as other people to get a 3080

but mine is like 10% worse than other 3080s

[potent portal]

And if you drop 2k on ebay you could buy a 3090, what's your point?

[earnest olive]

for no reason except bad luck

even after modding it it still overclocks like garbage

just like my liquid metaled 8700k that couldn't do 4.5ghz stable or boot with higher than 2666mhz ram

how about that one huh

I bet your 8700k is better than that

[lavish orbit]

lol I'm running on 5ghz oc lol

[earnest olive]

4.5ghz 1.4v max LLC unstable

[lavish orbit]

mines is stable 5ghz

[earnest olive]

your 8700k is more than 10% better than my delidded liquid metaled one

why? luck

[lavish orbit]

mines is delid metal

[earnest olive]

still

more than 10% better

purely because of luck

same deal with my 3080 being garbage compared to other 3080s

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/katniss-jennifer-lawrence-good-luck-hunger-games-gif-14497869

[lavish orbit]

if it helps this was a rma i7 8700k

[earnest olive]

lol

i rma my 3080 when it started crashing at stock

[lavish orbit]

yeah I sent it back and they must have gave me a good one

[earnest olive]

was praying they would replace it with one with better silicon

they just fixed the power connector

so it works but it's still bottom of the barrel silicon lottery

[fossil cedar]

Didn't dawid do something about a pcie to ram adapter 😆

[earnest olive]

make it single channel only

dawid moment

[lavish orbit]

I missed the days when only titan cards were 1k but now semi mid range cards are 1k

[fossil cedar]

✨white tax ✨

[earnest olive]

not even white tax

this model is fine

other people with visions get good ocs

it's just my card losing lottery as hard as possible

[fossil cedar]

Ohh i thought you said it was 10% more expensive I'm blind

[earnest olive]

nah i got it for below msrp

[fossil cedar]

I read as "worth" instead of worse

[fossil cedar]

6900xt at release

[lavish orbit]

do cpus bottleneck gpu's anymore

[earnest olive]

there is always a bottleneck somewhere in your system

by the definition of bottleneck

[potent portal]

Depends on what game you play, at what resolution, and what detail settings

Like if it's minecraft it will always be a cpu bottleneck

[earnest olive]

if your system had no bottlenecks then you would have infinite fps

[potent portal]

Assuming the game engine itself isn't the bottleneck yeah

[earnest olive]

well yeah game engine can count as a bottleneck

[potent portal]

Like skyrim and the 60fps lock

[earnest olive]

i've run into game engine bottleneck trying to push meme fps numbers in minecraft, overwatch, and league

~4150 fps in minecraft, 300 fps hard cap in overwatch, ~1300 fps in league

[fossil cedar]

Even a 7090 super and a 12900x with 1tb ram will have a bottleneck

[earnest olive]

lol you could make a 5950x bottleneck a 1050ti if you tried hard enough

[fossil cedar]

Btw 300fps isn't hardcap, i got 450fps in training arena before on a 1650 super lmao

[earnest olive]

maybe they updated the engine to account for 360hz monitors becoming a thing

it's been a very long time since i played overwatch

i just looked up a benchmark

guy running 10900K @ 5.2 and 3090 in overwatch at 1080p low

pegged to 400

cpu and gpu are both practically idle

so i guess the engine is limited to 400 now

[fossil cedar]

Yeah think it's 400 now

Sad tho

[earnest olive]

makes sense that they would increase the cap as 360hz monitors came out

[fossil cedar]

How many fps in csgo?

[earnest olive]

idk i've never played csgo

also

[fossil cedar]

You can get so many

All the fps

[earnest olive]

even like 4 years after quitting overwatch

the fact that i just happened to skip to a clip of bastion dying brings me great joy

[fossil cedar]

Bastion isn't as bad now

[fossil cedar]

Did you play when bastion had personal shield?

If so i found the root of your depression xD

[earnest olive]

no, but i do remember bastion + pocket mercy using damage amp + orisa shield + power bongo + temple of anubis entrance camping

[fossil cedar]

Sadge

That would do it too xd

[potent portal]

I'm usually mercy or dva, and I hate when I have to go battle mercy and end up with more kills than the rest of my team

[lavish orbit]

imagine me playing cyberpunk 2077 with my gtx 1060 3gb, hbw many fps would I have

[earnest olive]

i wasn't a particularly highly skilled player in overwatch either so uhh

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Depends on settings and what cpu to an extent too

[potent portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atI0AiqT5g

[wide sparrow]

highlight of the day

[earnest olive]

actually better than i expected

42 fps average on 1080p low

almost playable

[fossil cedar]

Dw, mercy hard work

https://tenor.com/view/fuckyeah-yeah-ya-yes-yup-gif-5820940

[earnest olive]

skipped to the end of the video... thanks youtube

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[lavish orbit]

is it worth getting a 3080 ti over a 3080 or 3090 for 4k

[fossil cedar]

3080 ti/3090 over 3080 for 4k yes

[earnest olive]

depends on price

[potent portal]

I've seen 3080 ti models going for less than 3080

Because LHR mostly

[earnest olive]

you will see a benefit going up to 3080ti, but whether or not it's worth depends on what each card is priced at

[lavish orbit]

I can probably get a 3090 in 6 months for msrp but is it worth 2,000

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[lavish orbit]

like I can save the money to get it

[potent portal]

Whether it's "worth it" is totally up to how you use it

[lavish orbit]

but is it worth it

[fossil cedar]

Sorry but msrp is not happening again for non founders edition cards

Also gonna be at least a year til things calm down

[potent portal]

3090 is good for mining and heavy 3D development and rendering

[lavish orbit]

i'm not playing 3AAA titles which is why I am debating if I should just get a 3080ti

[potent portal]

3080 or ti are almost as good for just gaming

Think of the 3090 as this generation's Titan

[earnest olive]

speaking of mining

i think my friend has gone off the deep end

he just used a credit card payment plan to buy a 3080 for $1500

[lavish orbit]

wait what why

[earnest olive]

when gpu mining has barely any months left

i was like

you realize that's not even going to hit ROI right

[fossil cedar]

Bro

[potent portal]

Plus paying interest on the CC

[earnest olive]

i convinced him to sell it while it's still worth about that much lol

[fossil cedar]

That's actually embarrassing amount

[earnest olive]

but it took a lot of convincing

[lavish orbit]

1500 is a 3080ti msrp

[potent portal]

No it's 3090 msrp

1200 is 3080 ti

[lavish orbit]

is the 3080ti that much better than a 3080

[potent portal]

Not really, the 3090 isn't even that much more than 3080

Personally, 3080 or ti, whichever is cheaper at the time you can buy it, is the one you want for just gaming

[fossil cedar]

Whichever you get the chance to buy

[lavish orbit]

I would do newegg shuffle but after hearing what happened with the gigabyte psu and gpu not sure if I want to go through that

[fossil cedar]

Gigabyte gpus are fine, pads on the 3080s and up are bad if you're gonna mine to offset the cost but apart form that fine, just don't use the gigabyte psu if you get one

Factor it as part of the gpu price

[potent portal]

They're replacing the bad PSUs

[lavish orbit]

from what I heard if you return the psu through newegg you have to return the gpu as well

[potent portal]

To do a return, yes, but not a replacement

That goes for ANY bundle

[fossil cedar]

You can get rma from gigabyte

And don't have to do anything with newegg

[potent portal]

Plus the Aorus Elite mobos they're bundling now actually aren't bad

[earnest olive]

i vouch for aorus elite

excellent boards

[potent portal]

Yeah and good VRM too

[earnest olive]

you could definitely do a lot worse as the basis of your build

[potent portal]

Way better than some random $90 Asrock board

[earnest olive]

i feel personally attacked

i have my 5800x on a $90 asrock board 😔

[potent portal]

And I'm sure that flimsy VRM heatsink would hold it back if you enabled PBO

[lavish orbit]

I heard that people say that the 3080ti is not worth it

[earnest olive]

👁️👄👁️

[lavish orbit]

and 3080 is better in terms of price since it's similar and 3080ti is only 10% more while 50% more

money

[potent portal]

If you're talking about msrp sure 3080 ti is awful price/performance, just like 3090. Problem is the current market.

[earnest olive]

it's actually a $180 board that i pulled some shenanigans to get for $90 if that helps lol

vrm heatsinks look pretty good

[potent portal]

That's better then, yes

[fossil cedar]

The steel legend is worth more tho, you just bought for that price lel

[earnest olive]

they have some actual fins on them

too many vrm heatsinks are just solid chunks of metal

[fossil cedar]

Sadge no flashback

[earnest olive]

yeah

[potent portal]

Less important these days

[earnest olive]

the only significant drawback of this board imo

but it came 5000 ready out of the box

i have a spare 3600x so i was prepared

there's a minor drawback in that the bottom m.2 slot only gets 3.0 x2 instead of 3.0 x4

probably because there's an m.2 wifi socket above it

not really a limiting factor as a game drive but it does halve the sequential

[fossil cedar]

I mean rand is the same so most ppl wont notice

[potent portal]

Is it X570 or B550?

[fossil cedar]

B550

[earnest olive]

b550

[potent portal]

B550 is always 3.0 on lower slot

[earnest olive]

yeah but it's usually 4 lanes

here it's 2

because it's sharing with that m.2 wifi

[potent portal]

Ohh I see

[earnest olive]

would be cool if it did 0+4 if m.2 wifi wasn't populated and 2+2 if it is

but it's just always 2+2 ig

[potent portal]

Yeah funny thing is if it was X570 it wouldn't have that limit, one of the rare cases it's better

[earnest olive]

yeah, i don't consider it a major issue though, like pato said it has no impact on rand

[potent portal]

You can always get a PCIe slot adapter for M.2

[earnest olive]

lol i don't have any more room for pcie cards

[fossil cedar]

What's in there?

[earnest olive]

this is taking up all of the empty slots

[fossil cedar]

Get riser cable kek

[earnest olive]

ah yes

[fossil cedar]

For the m.2

Ofc

[earnest olive]

time to install m.2 ssd on top of gpu

hey why is my ssd thermal throttling

[potent portal]

Low profile exists

[earnest olive]

true, still gonna block off some gpu airflow though

bottom intakes

[fossil cedar]

Nono, keep gpu where is, bring riser underneath support bracket/shove and bend behind brakcet

Or bring around

[earnest olive]

i think my system is working fine as is

[fossil cedar]

Ohhh wait o11d your fans would eat cable

[earnest olive]

yummy

[potent portal]

Not much

That's like, less than half height

[earnest olive]

i really don't need the extra lanes for a game drive

i would have to put it in the slot right below the gpu since the bottommost slot is x1

so it would definitely be blocking some airflow if it's directly pressed against the fan that's doing most of the vram cooling

and core cooling for that matter

[little osprey]

Hello.... I'm about ready to upgrade my current build and switch to a ryzen 7 I was thinking about the 3700x but my budget says 2700x. Besides thermals and a the 18% increase in performance is it worth the extra 50 bucks or so?? PS I'm coming from a i5-3450. Ty for any advice.

[copper mason]

Perhaps try a Ryzen 5 5600x, similar price range and even bigger performance gains overall even though you do lose out on 2 cores

[potent portal]

+1 for 5600X with a B550, for just gaming it's the best Ryzen option.
11400 or 11600 are good Intel options with B560

[little osprey]

I'm also am trying to stream lol I know I'm asking for alot

[copper mason]

Yeah, the 5000 series are just newer, far more single core strength on them which is great for games and streaming shouldn't be an issue

[little osprey]

Cool

[potent portal]

Even for streaming 5600X is plenty

It's 12 threads

[copper mason]

Streaming usually needs your graphics card to be better over your cpu

[little osprey]

I have a vtuber thing an I guess I was over using my cpu and programs started to just yeet themselves lol

5600x it is lol

[fossil cedar]

youd be better with a i5 10400 tbh

[copper mason]

Ahh yeah well a i5-3450 would do that lol

[little osprey]

Lol

[little osprey]

Why is that?

[fossil cedar]

better single core, better in gaming etc and cheaper

[potent portal]

Plus 10400 is usually cheaper

Like a lot

[copper mason]

5600x has better single core, but not by much, the 10400 is about $100 cheaper though!

[little osprey]

Damn what about upgrading down the line do I have a path?

[potent portal]

Right. For pure performance you pick AMD right now. But for price/performance where budget is a constraint, Intel is best

[potent portal]

If you get the 10400? Yeah you can go as far as the 11900

[little osprey]

Never thought I would read that lok

[little osprey]

Ok cool

[potent portal]

Yep it's a total flip from previous generations

[copper mason]

Ryzen so far has lots of upgrade paths as well since anything Zen3 works in the same mobo

Really a choice of price and brand preference for you

[vale epoch]

Whats a good time in the year to buy a gaming laptop

[little osprey]

I upgrade about every 5 or so gens and try to account for upgrading down the line

So both options the 10400 and the 5600x work well

[potent portal]

The problem with doing Ryzen right now is you don't have much upgrade path from here, Zen 4 will be on AM5

[little osprey]

Yea

[copper mason]

Black Friday/Cyber Monday is usually the go-to

[vale epoch]

So I should wait till Christmas season to buy one?

Any chances of new ones coming out by then

[potent portal]

Best time to buy is when you're in the market and can afford what you want

Nothing new before then no

[copper mason]

Patience is best, but with chip shortage how it is if you can snag it early and in-stock you are blessed hahah

[vale epoch]

So upon doing a shitton of research I found out the most a gaming laptop can last is around 3-4 years

[copper mason]

Can't wait for AM5, hope the performance gains are big

[vale epoch]

And with that in consideration should I still try for a 3070 laptop or get a cheaper 3060 laptop

[little osprey]

Won't that support ddr5 mem?

[potent portal]

Yep

[copper mason]

3060 will carry you just fine for the 3-4 years you'll have it

[potent portal]

I'm avoiding first gen DDR5 stuff because there will be bugs. Same with any platform change.

[vale epoch]

Ok so I should get a 3060 laptop

[potent portal]

Depends on what you want to do with it

1080p gaming? 3060 is fine

[little osprey]

Then it might be worth upgrading now and change mid way through

[low flare]

Just put my PC together, hit the power button, nothing happens except an RGB motherboard lights, can anyone assist?

[vale epoch]

1440p gaming

[copper mason]

There isn't much a 3060 can't do unless your trying out 4k 120hz VR or something nuts

[potent portal]

1440p you'll want 3070

[potent portal]

Keep in mind these are laptop model ones so not quite as powerful

[copper mason]

True, I'm used to desktop

[potent portal]

Laptop 3060 is about equal to desktop 2060

[vale epoch]

I wanna do vr as well cuz I’m planning on getting the oculus quest 2 in cyber monday

[stoic island]

3060 desktop wouldn't really do 1440p anyways

[vale epoch]

What about a mobile 3070?

[little osprey]

Ty for yalls help :)

[potent portal]

About a desktop 2060 super

[vale epoch]

Wow so I cant flex on my cousin with his desktop 2070 ti

Fck gaming laptops man

[potent portal]

3080 mobile beats the desktop 2070 super

[vale epoch]

Yeah I dont got 3.5 grand

[potent portal]

Yup. That's laptops for you.

[vale epoch]

Duck laptops

I might join the pc cult soon

[potent portal]

Please don't bypass filter btw

[vale epoch]

Hmm what do you mean?

[stoic island]

F words are bad

[vale epoch]

Oh you’re talking about cursing

[potent portal]

Deleting one letter is still the same word

[stoic island]

Screw laptops

[potent portal]

Yeah that would be fine

[vale epoch]

There better?

[potent portal]

That'll work, I was just warning you anyway for the future

[vale epoch]

Got it

[copper mason]

Doesn't 3060 (Ti at least) do 4k at 60 fps (barely, prolly 65fps on average) so why wouldn't 1440 work?

[potent portal]

No it doesn't do 4k60

Not without minimum settings at least

[stoic island]

3060ti and 3060 are different cards

And also, 4k60 doesn't mean it will do 1440p144

[copper mason]

Ah yee 144fps is a different story

[stoic island]

That's our definition for doing a certain resolution, at least my definition, being able to do 144fps

[stoic island]

For a specific example, pulling numbers from GN benchmark, 3060ti does 60fps in SOTR at 4k, but 100fps in SOTR at 1440p

[copper mason]

Gotcha, my standard is usually 120 but that's just me I guess

[vivid crag]

hi

[vale epoch]

Man whats up with you guys’ eyes

Are you all like those kids with over 5 power glasses

[copper mason]

Gotcha, yeah I haven't worked with 1440, didn't realize the performance difference was so large but it's not exactly much smaller than 2k

[vale epoch]

Here I am who can barely follow 60fps in genshin impact

[copper mason]

Lol I have 20/20 vision lad, just played too many competitive games and see everything in 120hz now haha

[vale epoch]

Give me your eyes

You cant have them they’re too much of a blessing for you

[copper mason]

Uhhh, sure 🖐️ 👀

[vivid crag]

l

[vale epoch]

[copper mason]

Whaddup Collision, got any spare eyes now I've lost mine, or you need some mediocre advice on how to build a PC 😊

[vivid crag]

xd

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MzkT2V

I

[stoic island]

Fun

Would change PSU

Prob get windows for cheaper

Would also change case

[vivid crag]

k k

[stoic island]

Do like a-gf for the PSU

Td500 mesh or p400a or smth for the case

[desert gulch]

I'd go with p31 too since it's a couple bucks more and better

[fossil cedar]

I'd spend a few more on the aio for the 360 galahad

[grim wraith]

Anyone know where I can find a decent gpu for a decent price? My wife has a 1060 and I’m trying to upgrade it for her

[potent portal]

#graphics-cards message

[grim wraith]

@potent portal I appreciate you. I’ve been trying to win the Newegg shuffle for awhile now. And I’m in those other queues to try and get one as well. No luck so far. Fingers crossed I guess

[potent portal]

That's all we can do, be persistent and hope you're lucky

[upper ferry]

Hello! I just purchased a new computer and would like to add an SSD drive. However, I am very unfamiliar with Laptops and their components so I don't know what kind of SSD I can buy that would fit. This is my laptop: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233457?Item=N82E16834233457. Can I get some ideas of what kind/size of drive I should look for, maybe add a few links for suggestions? I am looking for 1 TB drives.
Thanks!

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-1tb/p/N82E16820226901 this should do nicely

[potent portal]

Assuming the SSD isn't soldered in

Had to do some digging but it appears to have an open M.2 slot

[fossil cedar]

google says 2 m.2 drives

[potent portal]

Shout out to the Gigabyte website not having the full manual, only the quick start guide

[potent portal]

You should be able to add the drive that pato linked in addition to your current drive

[upper ferry]

Thank you so much!

[upper ferry]

Thank you!

[topaz kestrel]

Would someone be able to dm me and help me create a pc within my price range that would work nicely and would be upgradable in the future

[potent portal]

Absolutely. We do lots of lists. What's your budget and what will you use it for? If gaming, what resolution?

[topaz kestrel]

It would be around £300 which sounds stupidly low but I would only be playing games like minecraft etc so I wouldn’t need anything too strong

[little osprey]

Laptop

300 euros won’t get you anything

you’ll be able to afford like 2 parts

in this situation a laptop would be better

[upper ferry]

Followup question, when I'm installing this, is it just plug and play or do I need any sort of paste, etc?

[topaz kestrel]

I already have a “decent” graphics card and 8gb of ram but I can’t think of other stuff @potent portal

[little osprey]

Can you send the exact models?

[little osprey]

You’ll need to copy the data over to it

[potent portal]

It has an open slot, might need to initialize the disk but that's it

[little osprey]

Whether that’s cloning your current drive to a different spare drive, then cloning the spare drive to the new drive, or using whichever data interface (SATA, M.2) to USB

[little osprey]

But if you are just expanding your drive and not replacing it this is what will happen

[upper ferry]

Followup question, when I'm installing this, is it just plug and play or do I need any sort of paste, etc?

[potent portal]

There's a small screw to hold the drive down once you have it in the slot

EZ PZ

[upper ferry]

Perfect! Ok so do you recommend copying my old SSD from my old lap drive and moving it over, or reinstalling everything?

[potent portal]

Personally, to simplify things I'd leave everything on your old drive except for games, which you can reinstall or move using steam library

[upper ferry]

oops I'm just now seeing comments about this above, sorry!

[little osprey]

😆

[upper ferry]

lol

[upper ferry]

So Basically Copy/Paste everything but games

[potent portal]

What region are you in so I can get local prices

[potent portal]

The opposite, leave everything but copy the games to the new drive

[topaz kestrel]

England

[potent portal]

Gotcha, one min

[upper ferry]

Awesome, thanks!

[potent portal]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CBtJht

You'll have plenty of room to build on that

[fossil cedar]

just screw it in and youre good

np :)

[vale epoch]

What type of issues did people have with the asus strix g15 advantage?

[fossil cedar]

No gpu or igpu btw

Wth the bq so expensive?

[potent portal]

Yes I know. They have 8gb memory and a gpu already.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dLNNrr I'd do this instead btw

[topaz kestrel]

What’s the difference @fossil cedar ?

[fossil cedar]

thats the pound symbol

[vale epoch]

Is the legion 5 pro good?

[fossil cedar]

Better and cheaper psu, better motherboard with wifi, and slightly better cpu

[little osprey]

I d c

[topaz kestrel]

WiFi isn’t really a bother since I have Ethernet anyways but I’ll look into it

[little osprey]

What’s the difference between a euro and a pound

I have lived my whole life

thinking they’re the same

british pound and mainland euro?

[topaz kestrel]

About 14p

[fossil cedar]

Well it's a better board anyway, and the one with wifi was 2£ more

[topaz kestrel]

Cheers boss

[fossil cedar]

Uk pounds, rest euro

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

I've got the ram i need for my new build ordered, and now i just need to get the motherboard im so hyped rn

[clever eagle]

ok

[clever eagle]

yes

[clever eagle]

i read that as AND
am blind

[fossil cedar]

Well then yeah, that's 2 different currency's and countries

[fossil cedar]

Nice congrats :)

[little osprey]

Hey anyone think an amd a6 is ok for a budget office build? Would do school work and zoom stuff

It looks like da attractive at 50-60$ new

Duel core up to 3.7 ghz

Just wish it was quad core

[potent portal]

You can get a full used optiplex with a xeon processor for like $150

[little osprey]

Yea

Just kinda want to build one

But buying is way cheaper

[potent portal]

Building something like that will always be more expensive for less overall ability

[rustic flower]

I agree with Fal'Cie. A used office PC will do what you want to do real cheap, but parts - especially graphics cards - make building your own a headache.

[fossil cedar]

*that's only in the past 8/9 months for gpus

[steel musk]

My slightly revised part list. I'm not really sure if the CPU cooler is good, might just get water cooling instead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zfvnbh

[desert gulch]

I'd get better ram

Ballistix 3600cl16

Is great

Also a western digital 2tb 5400rpm HDD if you really want a hard drive

And don't pay $100 for windows

[humble rock]

Kinquin windows key all day

[desert gulch]

Nah those overpriced, ebay keys is where it's at

[potent portal]

*from decent rated sellers

[humble rock]

Never knew eBay had keys but I guess they sell everything

[potent portal]

Kinguin is fun for game keys still though, technically grey market

[still roost]

RATBEARDFISHHOOK#8507 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[potent portal]

Inwin fans are not very high quality and kinda loud to answer the deleted question

Arctic P12 are what we usually recommend

[humble rock]

i was looking at the inwin Saturn
there kinda cheap but they do have a nice daisy chain m,method for cable management

[potent portal]

Hubs are better for management imo, and you can have power and rgb all in one place

[humble rock]

im currently running noctua redux fans in the top but since i got my aio it throws the build off

[little osprey]

Anyone know of a good gaming laptop to play Minecraft windows 10, fortnite, and Minecraft Java?

[lyric thistle]

yeah anything really

[obsidian wigeon]

budget?

[little osprey]

$1k-$1.5k

[obsidian wigeon]

you're in luck for nice lappy then

lemme look for ya, what's your needs?

like do you want it to be light?

good battery life?

[little osprey]

Yeah, battery life would be good, weight doesn’t really matter, if it’s too light it’d move too much

[obsidian wigeon]

okie, gimme a min or two and i'll find the right lappy

[clever eagle]

chat build

[obsidian wigeon]

@little osprey https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/msi-ge66-dragonshield-11ue-441
https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/sager-np7859pq-clevo-nh58hpq
https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/sager-np7879pq-clevo-nh77hpq

these are all i can think of atm

the msi has 512 gigs ssd, others i have configurated to have 1tb

all fits your budget

[little osprey]

Okay thank you 🙂

[obsidian wigeon]

oops

lemme fix the links

there's no configs i chose

https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/sager-np7879pq-clevo-nh77hpq?conf=479505

https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/msi-ge66-dragonshield-11ue-441?conf=479506

https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/sager-np7859pq-clevo-nh58hpq?conf=479507

i'll look in newegg just to check

@little osprey keep these on hold atm, i found some sweet stuff on newegg kek

[clever eagle]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834155856?Description=gaming laptop&cm_re=gaming_laptop-_-34-155-856-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233446?Description=gaming laptop&cm_re=gaming_laptop-_-34-233-446-_-Product&quicklink=true

both of these are same price

1349 without rebate

1299 if you make a rebate form

[little osprey]

I'm partially through building my new computer and my old one died. Perfect

[potent portal]

It knew

[little osprey]

Pretty much

It was weird. Everything i clicked was ctrl+clicking to a new tab. I tried restarting, but when it powered back on it blue screened. It did that twice, and the third time it said "your computer's messed up and you need to wipe it" (but not in those exact words)

I worked over 12 hours. I'm too tired to harass people to help me, I'm leaving it for now

[obsidian wigeon]

probs windows going bork

[little osprey]

Yeah, it said it needed to wipe windows or something

I'm gonna finish the new computer, then maybe worry about this old one for later. Gonna use it in the living room to watch stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

sounds good

[clever eagle]

a

[olive cypress]

Guys I have a question
Why are zen 3 processors have much better performance than zen 2 processors? Even if the clock speed and core count is the same...?

I watched some benchmarks and there are some Very big improvements (like +10-15 FPS in games like cyberpunk 2077 or FL.simulator)
But one thing is that Vram/ RAM/GPU get used more on zen 3 processors

Can it be that they are optimized better and the try to use much RAM/Vram/GPU as they can?

[clever eagle]

hi

[fossil cedar]

Architectural improvements and precision boost overdrive got better too

[fossil cedar]

What benchmarks? If it was a cpu bottlenecked situation from zen 2 to 3 for example tho, it would explain why more of the gpu can be used

[clever eagle]

boost clock slighly higher
now L3 cache shared between all cores
more instructions per cycle

and ipc improvements

[fossil cedar]

Ipc is instructions per cycle btw

[olive cypress]

Ooh
Ok ty

[olive cypress]

The benchmark was a 3600+ 3080

[clever eagle]

dont worry im braindead

[olive cypress]

Only 0.19% bottleneck

[olive cypress]

Actually R5 3600x has a bit more bottleneck, so I think bottleneck doesn't change anything, the main things are probably this ↑

[olive cypress]

And this ↑

Btw a +0.2 GHz clock doesn't change much

[fossil cedar]

Sounds bout right

[fossil cedar]

For the love of no please don't use those stupid bottleneck calcultors

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

[fossil cedar]

Well yeah

[olive cypress]

[frank stirrup]

botleneck calculator and userbenchmark are garbage

Borrleneck depends on what program you use

[olive cypress]

I thought usebenchmark was good...?

[frank stirrup]

userbenchmark doesnt benchmark

it pulls numbers outta its ass and hands em to you

literally its like they dont even test stuff

their testing methods are that flawed

[olive cypress]

One day I used userbenchmark for my R5 2600x + 1070 and it said 67% gaming machine

BruB

[frank stirrup]

meaningless garbage

[olive cypress]

That's not ok

I think my rig is almost +85% for gaming

A GTX 1070?? It's a gaming gpu

Can still run AAA games 1080p ultra at 60fps

[clever eagle]

hi

back

[olive cypress]

Hï

@clever eagle how do you get the rank regular+?

[clever eagle]

lvl up

talk a lot

im due for the elite rank within a few days

[olive cypress]

Oooœh

What that rank gives u?

[clever eagle]

puts u above others thats basically it

[olive cypress]

Where can I see my level?

[clever eagle]

#ranks-and-levels

[olive cypress]

How?

Sorry I'm noob

[clever eagle]

you click on it

and type !rank

[olive cypress]

Ooh now I see
Ty man

[fossil cedar]

Trash garbo

@olive cypress https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg

[clever eagle]

lol

whats this again
im still braindead

i probably know

[olive cypress]

😳

[neat helm]

Is dis good pc

[clever eagle]

isnt it the clock speed before the multiplier
like 100x38

[clever eagle]

im blind lemme zoom in

[neat helm]

Ooky

[clever eagle]

yes
multiplier

[neat helm]

[olive cypress]

Looks fine

[clever eagle]

some improvements can be made

[olive cypress]

Yes

[neat helm]

Like what

[frank stirrup]

meh ram meh cooler and meh cpu

[fossil cedar]

Base clock is the lowest the lowest your cpu will go without throttling basically

[clever eagle]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the price

[neat helm]

I have 2000£ if you can find a better and trustable option be my guest plis

[olive cypress]

Ram is Bad

[neat helm]

1995£

[frank stirrup]

ram is meh not bad

[frank stirrup]

OH ABSOLUTE GARBAGE

[fossil cedar]

Too pricey for what it is

[neat helm]

Oof

[olive cypress]

Do you really need all that storage?

[neat helm]

I need 2tbs

[fossil cedar]

Hold on I'll get you something that's better

[olive cypress]

That's a lot

[clever eagle]

on a b560 board im not sure if it supports faster ram with that cpu
the ram is meh

[fossil cedar]

You can always add extra storage very simple

[neat helm]

I cant build tho

[olive cypress]

Ooh right

[neat helm]

Yesyes

[fossil cedar]

You dont need to, it's legit 2 wires

[fossil cedar]

Yeye i meant a prebuilt

[neat helm]

Yey thank you

[olive cypress]

Prebuilt make you pay like +20% more

[frank stirrup]

????????????

B560 allows you to overclock ram on any cpu

[clever eagle]

frik

[neat helm]

Too bad for me

:/

[frank stirrup]

Not anymore

getting the gpu is too dificult for that to be true

[olive cypress]

It's not difficult to build a pc

[neat helm]

My father is against it

[frank stirrup]

getting the gpu at msrp is

[neat helm]

Id do it tho

[olive cypress]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

@neat helm how much you wanna spend?

[neat helm]

2000£

Gbp

[olive cypress]

https://youtu.be/PXaLc9AYIcg
How to build

[frank stirrup]

Id actually recommend prebuilt> building it urself unless you already have a gpu

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[neat helm]

Yeah, its like legos

A really expensive set of legos

[olive cypress]

https://youtu.be/v7MYOpFONCU from linus

Prebuilt ar good only for GPUs

[neat helm]

Sad

[olive cypress]

Come on
It's easy!

[neat helm]

My father is against it

I want to do it but nooooo

Bad

[olive cypress]

My mom was too

[frank stirrup]

Drop it.

guy said no

move on

dont force your opinions on others

[fossil cedar]

@neat helm i personally would do this https://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-gamer-rtx-intel-core-i5-10400f-16gb-ddr4-8gb-asus-rtx-3070-1tb-m2-ssd-win-10-see-info but if you want to spend 2k, https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-gamer-rtx-intel-core-i7-11700f-rocket-lake-16gb-ddr4-10gb-evga-rtx-3080-1tb-m2-ssd-2tb-see-info

[olive cypress]

It's almost impossible to break something (unless you're Linus)

[frank stirrup]

its not nice

[fossil cedar]

It's cheaper to get a prebuilt atm and they clearly aint up for doing it

[olive cypress]

Is this the prebuilt ^

?

[clever eagle]

we all know its easy
if they cant they cant
h

[neat helm]

So 1tb ssd and 2tb hdd?

[fossil cedar]

Or you can add more ssds to it

[neat helm]

Yish

[neat helm]

O

[fossil cedar]

@neat helm i would go with the 1st one, way more value

But yeah

[olive cypress]

Let me check if the price is good
The price is 2000$?

[fossil cedar]

If you want to spend up to 2k get the 2nd

[neat helm]

U want something stronk

[fossil cedar]

They're in the uk ;-;

[neat helm]

I

[olive cypress]

£

[fossil cedar]

3070 is stronk

[neat helm]

But i5?

Idk

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

10400 is a good cpu

[frank stirrup]

10400 nice

[fossil cedar]

I5 i7 doesn't matter the model does

[clever eagle]

10400 cheap
pentium is where its at

[fossil cedar]

That's just not funny ;-;

Sorry but pentiums just shouldn't exist anymore lel

[neat helm]

Does 32 gbs ram make a huge difference

[fossil cedar]

Depends

[neat helm]

Oh well

Should I buy a 2k monitor for the pc u sent?

Or what would work best?

[frank stirrup]

what about pentium ✨GOLD✨ tho

[fossil cedar]

1080p if 24" or 1440p if 27" and up

[frank stirrup]

not for gaming really at least with the other parts

[neat helm]

Pog

[neat helm]

Nice

[olive cypress]

@neat helm the prebuilt is fine

Price is ok 👌

[neat helm]

The one pato recommended?

Pato is genius

I trust

[frank stirrup]

pato never leads you wrong

[neat helm]

Agreed

Pato is the godfather

[frank stirrup]

pato is my husband

[clever eagle]

umm

[neat helm]

Pato is cool

So

Does an ssd make a huge difference from hdd

[clever eagle]

yes

especially as boot drive

[frank stirrup]

depends

[clever eagle]

for games not much

i gues

[neat helm]

In gam8ng

[frank stirrup]

load time? yes. gaming experiance no

[neat helm]

Yesyeys

[clever eagle]

load times faster

[neat helm]

Lets goooo

[frank stirrup]

as long as you have an ssd to install windows ur good

[neat helm]

If i fill my ssd will it boot slower

[clever eagle]

slightly

[frank stirrup]

not really

you wont notice it

maybe half a secong max

[olive cypress]

https://youtu.be/V3AMz-xZ2VM
SSD hdd NVMe

[clever eagle]

my ssd read speeds suck
its 6700
before it was 6870

[frank stirrup]

irrelevant

[clever eagle]

but thats sequential

[olive cypress]

I had a laptop with pentium gold
It was so good it got yeeted from the window

[clever eagle]

not real world

perf

[frank stirrup]

only random reads and writes matter

[clever eagle]

yes

mine suck

[frank stirrup]

NVME is a protocol.

doesnt mean anythiing other than that

[olive cypress]

What?

[frank stirrup]

NVME is a transfer protocol

[olive cypress]

Sorry I don't understand

[fossil cedar]

My gf might have problem with that...

[clever eagle]

pcie

im listing random things

[frank stirrup]

NVME is nonvolatile memory express

its a transfer protocol

[olive cypress]

Ooh wait...
Ok

[fossil cedar]

Random is what matters to like 99% of people

[olive cypress]

Understood

[frank stirrup]

Dumping time

Rawr>gf

9/10 doxctors agree

[fossil cedar]

Like sata

[neat helm]

Pato are the parts for the pc trustable

Like

Good brands?

[frank stirrup]

yes

[frank stirrup]

[fossil cedar]

What if I'm 1/10 doxcters

[olive cypress]

Pato in Espanol → 🦆

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[neat helm]

Yeah but i am smoooth brain

[fossil cedar]

What rawr said

[neat helm]

So it will last a long time, hopefully?

[frank stirrup]

Oh btw pato did you hear about why evga cards were dying from anazon game?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[neat helm]

I aim to still be the epic gamer I am till 2800

[clever eagle]

tm5 loves me

[neat helm]

Epic

[frank stirrup]

windows reinstall time

[fossil cedar]

Ya but still think was dodgy dx12 call or something

[frank stirrup]

bad solder jobs

hardware fail

[fossil cedar]

Yes but think it was amazons fault a bit

[clever eagle]

dont worry i got 305 errors before it crashed

[olive cypress]

Eew

[clever eagle]

why

clean

[olive cypress]

Not mine 😂

[clever eagle]

oh

[fossil cedar]

Stop after you see 1 error, 1 error = fail

[olive cypress]

Looks nice btw

[clever eagle]

i know
i fixed it

[frank stirrup]

windows reinstall time

[fossil cedar]

Good

[olive cypress]

😳

[frank stirrup]

sfc and dism right away

[clever eagle]

already did sfc

[fossil cedar]

Actually rawr i might edit my pin in Windows with the batch file sips made but i made betterer

[frank stirrup]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/poor-soldering-killed-24-evga-geforce-rtx-3090-gpus

[olive cypress]

I just got 550mb/s on my SSD 😅

[clever eagle]

sata

[fossil cedar]

Still think was a combo lol

[olive cypress]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

What?

[frank stirrup]

thats what I use

[fossil cedar]

I improved

[frank stirrup]

more dism?

[fossil cedar]

That file only had 1 dism

[frank stirrup]

thought so

[fossil cedar]

Also i added pause so no auto close

[frank stirrup]

ahh smart

semd it over

[fossil cedar]

So then you can see error

I send lator on phone atm

[frank stirrup]

ahh aight aight

[clever eagle]

test from 1 month ago

test from last year but repost i was too dumb to screenshot random read and writes

[fossil cedar]

Lol rawr i was doing the corsair ddr4 hwbot thing and i couldn't get 4000mhz to boot at all, or any 3200cl14 :/

[frank stirrup]

c die momen

[clever eagle]

3200cl14
should i try that instead of 3666 cl18

[frank stirrup]

3200c14 "works" for me

[frank stirrup]

for intel? sure

[clever eagle]

i have cjr die

[frank stirrup]

Ryzen I wouldnt'

[clever eagle]

i not intel my username says it all

[fossil cedar]

Not for 5800x

[clever eagle]

ok

[fossil cedar]

They saying in general

[clever eagle]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Big sadge, tomie got c die to go 4000cl18 22 22 46 or something tho

:(

[clever eagle]

damn

[frank stirrup]

I can do 4000c18 or so too but fclk desync

[clever eagle]

oh

i can do 3800cl18 before any crashes

but i still get error so i went lower

[olive cypress]

Which do you think had the best design?
My GPUs

[clever eagle]

i using pbo -12 per ccx
should i make it -20
what should my pbo limits be i set it to auto for now

[frank stirrup]

dramless drive go brrrr

[clever eagle]

wow

[olive cypress]

Nice

[clever eagle]

sn550?

[frank stirrup]

yessir

[clever eagle]

this tho

does it matter?

[fossil cedar]

I manually set flck to like 1600 tho

[frank stirrup]

try desync

1000 fclk 2000 mem

[clever eagle]

do u think my usb can do better?

[frank stirrup]

not too much

[fossil cedar]

Mmm yeah i didn't think that good was like 2am lol

[frank stirrup]

Fair

[clever eagle]

my 3070 boosts to 1965mhz stock

is that good

[fossil cedar]

With or without oc?

[clever eagle]

without

no OC
u thr?

[clever eagle]

2.0 usbs are amazing

i got 5

not in a row but yes

i did ask after i bought the parts
im smart

[fossil cedar]

U thr?

[clever eagle]

yes

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

I was asking what you meant by "u thr?"

[clever eagle]

oh

u disappeared

[fossil cedar]

What?

[idle nimbus]

hey excuse me, so like if a gpu in this case 1660 super 6gb

does it run slower? since its 6gb

im not a very tech expert

please tell me im super nervous

since atm i have 1660ti 16gb

i want to know if 1660 super 6gb runs slower

[fossil cedar]

You don't have a 1660 ti with 16gb

1660 ti and super both have 6gb

[idle nimbus]

o

then

i got scammed

very nice

i have a dell laptop

it says 16gb

[fossil cedar]

Ti is tiny bit better but not worth more than like 10$ over a super

[clever eagle]

1660 ti 16gb doesnt exist

[fossil cedar]

That's your cpu's ram , not your graphics cards ram

[idle nimbus]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ok understandable

[fossil cedar]

So you're fine lol

[idle nimbus]

ty lol

also, is ryzen 5 3600 6 core

[clever eagle]

yes

[idle nimbus]

good? and is 500GB SSD also good?

[clever eagle]

5600x better

[fossil cedar]

It's fine, better alternatives

[idle nimbus]

i dont have that budget atm sadly

[clever eagle]

i havent checked the price

[idle nimbus]

oh ok

[fossil cedar]

This is personal

[idle nimbus]

oh

[fossil cedar]

@idle nimbus what's your budget and what country?

And you want a laptop?

[idle nimbus]

USA, around 1k

no laptops please

[fossil cedar]

Ohh okay

Cool

[idle nimbus]

i have bad experience with laptops

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[idle nimbus]

ye

[frank stirrup]

anyway imma head out bye pato

[idle nimbus]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shadow-0277-ne/p/N82E16883289152

[clever eagle]

1k pc
ok

[idle nimbus]

do u think this is good

for minecraft?

[clever eagle]

umm

[idle nimbus]

yesterday someone sent me it

[clever eagle]

is that a prebuilt

[idle nimbus]

i want to find more lol

yes indeed it is

[frank stirrup]

budget?

[idle nimbus]

i dont have the knowledge to build one

[idle nimbus]

1k

[fossil cedar]

@idle nimbus if you don't mind open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali416-master/p/N82E16883102994R, if you want new .. https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491/p/N82E16883360086