building-and-recc-chat

[sacred plank]

Yes at a much cheaper price you may get lucky and snag one at a microcenter like I did

I say cheap relatively

still scalped

[prime birch]

I mean if you are pushing a 1080p at 60hz run a potato

[visual sun]

I want mid rendering distance on mods simular to rl craft

[sacred plank]

3060 ti would be perfect for everything you'll be doing now and in oncoming future including VR

[visual sun]

Ok

[prime birch]

3060ti is a great card for the $

[sacred plank]

I got mine for 600 bucks and Im honestly not even upset

[visual sun]

Ok

So whats a good i7 amd?

[prime birch]

Got my 3080 FE for $630

[sacred plank]

an i7 11700 would be a good choice

[visual sun]

Or would intel be the better go

[sacred plank]

@prime birch oh you lucky

[visual sun]

Ok

[sacred plank]

Id say intel right now because good luck finding any amd stuff

[prime birch]

AMD actually is pretty easy to get now

[sacred plank]

Depends on location

[visual sun]

Ohio

[prime birch]

Could get a 5600G so you don't need a GPU right away

[visual sun]

Also how many gb on the 3060

[sacred plank]

3060 has 12 gigs while the 3060 ti only has 8 gigs but at a higher bandwith I do believe.

3060 ti is on par with the 2080

[visual sun]

Meaning?

Ok

So 8

[sacred plank]

Yeah

[visual sun]

Whats the 5600g like?

[prime birch]

Honestly I'd say either wait to save enough money to buy everything as new gen CPU might be out by then. Or grab a 5600G and you can have a decent computer that can game without a GPU and then save up and find a 3060ti

[half junco]

Bro wdym

U can find amd stuff

[vague oracle]

No it wouldn’t, 10700k and 5800x are way better options

11700 isn’t good value and is outdone by the 10700k

[visual sun]

For price?

Ok

[vague oracle]

Performance wise

[prime birch]

6 core. 12 thread. Integrated GPU with decent performance for mild gaming

[potent portal]

If you were to build it right now, this is what I'd do for a 2k system with a 2060 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrVJJf

Room in the budget for a better GPU if you can get one

[vague oracle]

Why the CL18 ram?

[clever eagle]

cl18

why

wait

hmm

[potent portal]

With that much memory you'll have to get very lucky with the IMC to get 3600 c16 working

[vague oracle]

Oh yeah

Didn’t notice the 64Gb

[prime birch]

Haven't seen an actual reason why he would need that much memory anyway

[potent portal]

Anything past 32gb is quite stressful for it

[potent portal]

rendering

[vague oracle]

Yeah rendering will do that

[potent portal]

He wanted 6-8 slots filled at first too lol

[vague oracle]

Well depends on the program

I’d try to maybe fit a 5900x but not really necessary

[prime birch]

I don't know how much he's actually rendering. Seems pretty basic from what he said

[vague oracle]

What did he say?

I wasn’t around when he said

[prime birch]

He started with TR. I saw

[potent portal]

If anything the 5900X could hurt gaming experience when threads switch between the CCX, unless you know how to lock threads

[prime birch]

Basically play Roblox...need TR hahah

[potent portal]

2nd gen TR at that lol

[vague kelp]

anyone know good websites to make custom pre-built i give up trying to buy a Invida RTX 3060 ti

[potent portal]

The sites I know for build-to-order stuff are really overpriced right now

[vague oracle]

Imo he really doesn’t need the 64Gb 32 will last him perfectly fine

[prime birch]

ABS from NE are decent. I've had one

[potent portal]

As long as you don't need to contact support
They tend to send people here if they don't know an answer

[vague oracle]

Wait actually?

I mean they aren’t wrong by doing that

[potent portal]

Yeah it happens a few times a week

[prime birch]

Mine also came with one of those sweet gigabyte PSU....

[formal girder]

Ohh fun get rid of it

[potent portal]

It's usually really specific questions that an average support guy, or even supervisor, might not know

[vague oracle]

Also I would go for the 5900x and 32Gb of ram only because unity likes high core counts

[potent portal]

"Is X compatible with Y specialty part" kind of things I see a lot

[visual sun]

i dont want so much memory i want alot of ram

[vague kelp]

i guess is time to go back to being a child thats depress and wait for a Invidia RTX 3060 ti

[vague oracle]

Gaming wise there really won’t be much difference

[visual sun]

ok

[prime birch]

RAM is memory....random access

[vague oracle]

Falcie also why the SN750? Just curious about that

[visual sun]

yah but ram and memory sticks are diferent right..

or..

[vague oracle]

…nope

[visual sun]

wait was i lied to......

[vague oracle]

Ram is memory

[potent portal]

Decent price right now

[prime birch]

Random access memory....RAM

[stoic island]

Random
Access
Memory

[vague oracle]

You’re thinking of storage heatwave

[visual sun]

yah but thats like a tool box for fars acces

oh..

ok

yah i dont care to much on storage

[potent portal]

5900X with 32gb puts it over budget, you'd have to sacrifice other things

[vague oracle]

Rip

[visual sun]

this one ?

[vague oracle]

If I remember correctly unity3d likes high core counts with a decent amount of ram and fast ssds

[visual sun]

yah 500$

[prime birch]

5900x with a 2060. Man that's way outta balance

[visual sun]

what would a 5500x do?

[potent portal]

That was one of the first requirements he said, must be 2060

[vague oracle]

Must be a 2060?

[visual sun]

yes

for mine craft

[vague oracle]

[potent portal]

That's only a minimum, we already recommended the 3060 ti over that, which still fits in budget

[vague oracle]

Go for the 3060ti

[visual sun]

ok

would this work?

someone mentioned it earlyer

[potent portal]

NO

[visual sun]

ok

[potent portal]

Pls do not do that one

[visual sun]

ok

[potent portal]

The older 10700k actually beats it in several tests

[visual sun]

ok

so the 10700k or????

[potent portal]

Revised list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n3yJJf

[vague oracle]

JEEZ I LITERALLY ALREADY SAID TO NOT GET THE 11700K

[visual sun]

ok

[potent portal]

5800X is still better than any Intel comparable processor

[vague oracle]

^

[visual sun]

ok, i can knock the case off the price

so 80 less

[potent portal]

If you don't need a case then you could upgrade to the 5900X

[vague oracle]

What case are you going to use?

[visual sun]

a dell 2 core....

i think

[vague oracle]

Yeah you need a case

[potent portal]

Sounds like an old prebuilt case, probably bad airflow so it'll choke a processor like 5800X/5900X

[prime birch]

My recommendation...buy an ABS from Newegg....Good luck

[potent portal]

Still under 2k before tax https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qXkFRT

There's a little flex room on some parts to drop it lower if needed

[little osprey]

A 3060ti with a 5900x

[stoic island]

yes

[potent portal]

Rendering threads, and Unity

[little osprey]

Y

Also why is 3060ti price at $600

[prime birch]

But worse Minecraft and Roblox....

[stoic island]

would up psu slightly to cx if possible but ye

also

would change ssd like mp33 prob

mp33 1tb is real cheap atm

[vague oracle]

Unity tends to like faster SSDs

[potent portal]

Because that's what they sell for at retail now

[stoic island]

pilot e then

or if unity likes rnd more, sn550

[little osprey]

You’re joking

[stoic island]

aib cards do start at around 500-600

[potent portal]

Nope, this is the world right now

[vague oracle]

Didn’t WD change the sn550 tho?

[little osprey]

Wtf

[vague oracle]

Or was that something other ssd

[stoic island]

so did they sn750, supposedly

but yes

just writing to native tlc is slower

[jagged ember]

Brooksy, sorry you had to find out this way

But gpu are real expensive now

[vague oracle]

These are the days where 6800xts go for 1.2-1.4K

[jagged ember]

Yep

God, that one hurts

[vague oracle]

…did I buy one at that price?

…maybe

[jagged ember]

I can't believe it's real

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-rtx-3060-ti-ventus-2x-8g-ocv1-lhr/p/N82E16814137673

That was on the Shuffle today

[vague oracle]

Eww 2 fan

EWW ventus

[potent portal]

Yeah, it's even a bad model and it's over $600

[vague oracle]

The 6700xts in microcenter are more enticing than that

Idk why but there’s something satisfying about having an all AMD build

[potent portal]

SAM?

More than just satisfying, small but measurable performance gains possible

[vague oracle]

I mean psychologically

SAM is nice tho

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTMRrr can someone recommend a mobo and a white air cooler for this pls

[vague oracle]

Air cooler for the 5900x?

Why air cooler in specific?

[little osprey]

Oh I thought I had a 5600x in there oops

Aio then

Prob just do a Galahad?

[vague oracle]

Yeah that’s what I put in

[potent portal]

Yeah galahad is best white option

[vague oracle]

Mind if I change the PSU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MmLtvf

[little osprey]

Yeah I’m not there yet

Thanks

The rmx was from a uk Build lol

[vague oracle]

LOL

[little osprey]

It autocorrected all caps lmao

[crimson thicket]

Could always go b550 steel legend for mobo as well would save ya like $20 and comes decently well recommended from ppl like AHO @little osprey

Good vrms and an error code readout on the mobo

That and I'd avoid the sn550 they changed the nand and made it worse

[stoic island]

isn't that bad for most people

just writing native to tlc is slightly slower

doesn't affect peak or rnd

could go pilot e then a-gf tho

[earnest olive]

i vouch for the b550 steel legend as well

the only downside to report is that the bottom m.2 slot is limited to 3.0 x 2 lanes

not a huge deal for stuff like game loading but hurts if you are doing heavy sequential stuff on your secondary drive

haven't had any other problems while using it as my daily board

and i don't even consider that to be a problem since my second drive is just a game drive

[opal orchid]

i want help upgrading the storage on my MSI Sword 15 laptop. Any recommendations? trying to do it with an ssd but i'm not sure it i need a sata and power cable

[earnest olive]

can you be more specific?

like a model number?

[opal orchid]

of course

[earnest olive]

or product page?

if a laptop takes a sata drive it generally has a fused connector attached to the motherboard that does power and data, no cables required

[opal orchid]

thats what i was seeing, but i just wanted to make sure

[earnest olive]

if it's m.2 you will need to check if it supports m.2 sata, m.2 nvme, or both

[opal orchid]

it supporst both

[earnest olive]

i've serviced many laptops and any that took sata had that combined connector, it's standard for laptops

[opal orchid]

ok cool

[earnest olive]

but not all laptops support those sata 2.5" drives

so

you still need to check what your laptop supports

[opal orchid]

Sword 15 a11UD-001us

[earnest olive]

alright, good thing you asked

your laptop does NOT support any 2.5" drives

only nvme is listed

[opal orchid]

it comes with an nvme so i wanted to add an ssd just for that extra storage

is there a certain type of ssd i can still install in it>

?

[earnest olive]

it only has one slot, so you will have to replace

you cannot add

consider an external ssd if you would prefer not to replace

[opal orchid]

damn, really no special ssd for laptops? XD

[still roost]

greenbiscut#0386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

no, laptops and desktops use the same ssds

[opal orchid]

damn XD aqlright welkl thanks man

[earnest olive]

same hdds too technically, but you won't be able to fit 3.5" in a laptop normally

i pulled a hard drive out of my laptop to use in my first desktop build, worked without issues

[opal orchid]

guess i'll just worry about the memmory for now

[earnest olive]

@opal orchidhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/f493LP

[crimson thicket]

I thought that laptop had 2x nvme slots or was that a different model?

@opal orchid @earnest olive https://www.myfixguide.com/msi-sword-15-review/

[earnest olive]

mm yeah looks like the info i saw was wrong then

was looking at best buy Q&A because i couldn't find a review

the review you linked is a different config but i doubt they would change the number of ssd slots

just a different config, motherboard should be the same

[opal orchid]

it only has 1xm.2 slot

i opened it up and took a look already

it has a bay for an ssd which is why i thought i could put one in. like why have a bay if there isnt a drive that'll fit in it

[earnest olive]

hmm

do you have a pic of it opened up

[opal orchid]

i do not, but i'll look for the actual page for it

i'll open it up tomorrow and send you a photo, i need to get some sleep

[pseudo arrow]

Hey guys, so I'm finally gonna be building a PC and needed to know if the entry level build list would work with the RX-78-2 case from corn electronics. I'll go get the links real quick.

Check this out on @Newegg: CORN GUNDAM RX-78-2 Middle Tower Gaming Computer Tempered Glass Case Support ATX/ MATX/ ITX Support 280/360 Liquid Cooler https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00GU-000A9?Item=9SIA4REE2T9591&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA4REE2T9591-_-09012021

Shared List https://newegg.io/28ffedd

To me it doesn't look like there would be an issue, but I wanted to get a second/third opinion still just to be safe since I'm still learning

[serene pulsar]

Not much airflow in it

Just a box

You have 2 cases in the list?

Fractal Meshify and this one you put

[pseudo arrow]

The list is the base entry level one off Newegg with no modifications since the Gundam one won't pop up even with a new list all together.

Essentially the case isn't even available to do a build list on Newegg.

I am gonna make a copy of the list removing the case on it. I guess I should also add some case fans then?

[clever eagle]

hmm

[little osprey]

If there's no display coming out and keyboard isn't being detected on boot

What will be the problem of it?

[obsidian wigeon]

ram

i'd suspect it's the ram first

reinstall it in diff slot

[little osprey]

If it's not?

I'll try reseating the cpu

[formal girder]

Check the pins for any damage(doubt that will have any affect) while your at it but could be cables as well

[little osprey]

No damage to the pins, already reseated the cpu and the ram

Still nothing

[formal girder]

Have you checked all the cbales to ensure are all plugged in all the way

[little osprey]

Yep

[formal girder]

Whats your motherboard?

[little osprey]

Msi b450m mortar max

[formal girder]

And you only have an APU no gpu?

[little osprey]

Yeah

It's the processor?

[formal girder]

Yes apu is amds version of IGPU for the cpu so yeah

So your issue may lie within your motherboard not having the bios updated to support the apu and need the bios update for it

[little osprey]

It already booted

This happened last night

[formal girder]

Alright then do you think it could be the cables to your monitor have issues?

Trying to cover all grounds and any debug lights on your motherboard?

So idk if this will help but first power off your psu and unplug it from wall then remove the flat battery on your motherboard (cmos battery) then wait five minutes before putting battery back in and then power back on to see if that helps

[little osprey]

Dram led turned on then the cpu

[formal girder]

So that may appear to be a ram based issue

[obsidian wigeon]

gotta reseat it as i said

cpu is the least concern here

[formal girder]

Do you have one or two ram sticks

Cause if two then remove one and attempt to boot off that

[obsidian wigeon]

one time my laptop refused to boot

it was ram apparently getting dirty

[formal girder]

Rip yeah ram can be finicky sometimes

[odd meteor]

would you recommend getting a pre built pc or building a pc on your own or getting pc parts and giving it to someone to build it

[tight sorrel]

not a simple question to answer. individual hardware components (GPUs) are hard to find and expensive these days, but you will always have the knowledge that you got the best parts for your budget. on the other hand prebuilts are readily available and the pricing is very competitive, butthe quality of prebuilts is questionable and the parts you get will not always be the best.

[formal girder]

In the current state of the market getting a prebuilt can be a more recommended option for pricing and Neweggs ABS prebuilts have some decent pricing for their pcs

[odd meteor]

hmm. i would rather buy pc parts with some knowledge. bc i bought a prebuilt, i doesnt have bluetooth, bad keyboard, gt710 :[, i7 but 1st gen, and no wifi also, i had to buy a wifi dongle

[formal girder]

If you can find reasonable priced parts and snag a deal on a gpu then more power to ya

[tight sorrel]

Im biased cos ive always built my own, so I lean towards that. If you have patience then thats the direction I would go

[odd meteor]

hmm ya

[formal girder]

Also do note of where you get your prebuilts from like i recommend ABS because its a prebuilt i can trust

[odd meteor]

hmm

i am from india

soo i dont think they will ship it here

[formal girder]

Oh ok

Thats understandable

[tight sorrel]

I am not so sure. https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali502/p/N82E16883360097?Description=abs gaming desktop&cm_re=abs_gaming desktop-_-83-360-097-_-Product this one for example comes with an exploding PSU and a case thats will cook your parts

[smoky steeple]

Hi all! What’s the most reasonable desktop pre-built system you’d recommend? Will be used for gaming and school, 6th grade through 8th or so. Good for gaming and school work, thanks!

[formal girder]

So the psu brands vary with such prebuilts

[odd meteor]

lol yea

[formal girder]

The case on otherhand yeah thats a yikes

[odd meteor]

do they, newegg, deliver to india?

[tight sorrel]

ill be honest, im going off the product image, so you are 100% right there

[languid nimbus]

Oof

[fossil cedar]

Depends on your budget/how much you're looking to spend, and what country you're in

[empty kayak]

im new here i got a question

is WD - Blue 1TB SATA 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive a good ssd to get

its on sale for 94.99 at best from 189.99

[fossil cedar]

No it's not

It was being stupid overpriced before

What's the rest of your pc parts?

[empty kayak]

i got a 500gb nvme now and a 8gb extrnal hard drive gaming hub from firecuda

[fossil cedar]

Do you have another m.2 slot?

[empty kayak]

my whole build is a ryzen 5 5800x 16gb of ddr4 3200 rtx 2060 1000 watt power supply and a asus rog b550 board

yes i do its a gen 3 slot i got the 500gb nvme in the gen 4 slot should i take it out to put it in th e gen 3 slot

[fossil cedar]

Okay so you should habe an extra m.2 slot

[empty kayak]

i do

its a gen 3 slot and i got a gen 4 slot whats the 500gb nvem, is in

[fossil cedar]

Gen 4 isn't worth it atm, you can leave it in the slot

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8 I'd get this

[empty kayak]

ok but i dont got much money cause im also buying another 16gb of ddr 3200 to put me at 32gb of ddr4

[fossil cedar]

Right

[empty kayak]

cause its on sale right now

[fossil cedar]

Make sure it's the exact kit you have right now

[empty kayak]

it is 3200

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101 if you wanna save money

[empty kayak]

when i bought it like a month ago it was 101 now it down to 87.99

[fossil cedar]

I mean make sure it's the exact same brand and kit and everything, best chance you have for it to work

As buying extra isn't garunteed to work

[empty kayak]

i have the CORSAIR - Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.2GHz PC4-25600 DDR4 DIMM

[fossil cedar]

Also 3200 is kinda slow for Ryzen 5000

If you can if recommend selling those sticks and buying a new 3600mhz cl16 kit 2x16gb or something

Obvs that might not be possible but

[empty kayak]

best buy only got something ones i hate buying online sometimes

so i should go for 3600 for the 5000

CORSAIR - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.6GHz PC4-28800 DDR4 DIMM

what about that @fossil cedar

[clever eagle]

whats happening here

[fossil cedar]

No if you're buying more and not replacing get the exact same kit

The 3600 kit would have to run at 3200 anyway

[empty kayak]

no i mean take out the kit i got now and go with the 3600

since you said 3200 is two slow for the 5000

[clever eagle]

if you dont need 32 gb ram
then you can take it out for 3600
wait why are you replacing

i havent read chat yet

[tardy heron]

Anyone wanna see my dusk filter working

[empty kayak]

i was thinking going to 32gb but then he said 3200 is to slow for the 5000 cpu i have

[clever eagle]

yes

[empty kayak]

cause they have my ram on sale

[clever eagle]

you could get the same ram then OC all of them

[empty kayak]

so i was gonna go pick up another 16gb kit since its on sale

i dont know how to do that

im not go with all of that

[clever eagle]

oh

[empty kayak]

so i dont know how you would over clock the ram i kinda know how to overclock the cpu

[tardy heron]

Need to wait to fully clean the pc when my compressed air arrives but just did a quick sweep and taking the big bits off

[clever eagle]

overclock ram in bios

[empty kayak]

asus - rog strix b550-f gaming am4

[clever eagle]

i feel like you would know enough by scrolling through #overclocking for 20 mins
oh u cant post links till u get regular role

[empty kayak]

thats my motherbOARD

[clever eagle]

ok

yes you can OC ram on it

pato is typing

[empty kayak]

so i dont know to much about the bios on this motherboard just yet i know i think i got it set to xmp

[fossil cedar]

I mean it's not too slow it's just not optimal

[fossil cedar]

Clean it :/

[tardy heron]

Just did

[empty kayak]

anyone had this board before

[fossil cedar]

Are you in the us?

[empty kayak]

yes i am im in georgia

[fossil cedar]

Ram oc is not for the light hearted

[clever eagle]

true

[empty kayak]

has anyone had this bored before

[fossil cedar]

RAM OC TAKES WEEKS

[empty kayak]

board

[fossil cedar]

@empty kayak get this then https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

[empty kayak]

cause i dont know where to go in the bios to set the overclock

[clever eagle]

dont bother then

[fossil cedar]

No but it's a nice board

[fossil cedar]

Don't bother it's hard to ram oc

[empty kayak]

but i want to learn

i want to get some good stuff out of my pc

[fossil cedar]

Don't start with ram oc then

I'd start with learning how to turn on pbo and use the curve optimiser

[empty kayak]

whats pbo

[clever eagle]

precison boost overdrive

[fossil cedar]

Precision boost overdrive

It's like a ryzen 3000/5000 how you oc

Because it's usually better than a manual of(especially on Ryzen 5000)

[empty kayak]

i think i got it on then

[clever eagle]

what offset (mV)
all core or per ccx?

[empty kayak]

i cant remember

[clever eagle]

oh

[empty kayak]

could someone teach me or help me out

will i see anyone imporivements if i go to 32gb from 16gb

[clever eagle]

yes

do you need 32gb tho

[empty kayak]

and to be honest i dont know what offset (mV) is or all core or per ccx is

i just want to fill up all 4 slots

[clever eagle]

oh

[fossil cedar]

Depends on what you do with your pc

[empty kayak]

thats the only real reason and to see if i get more imporvents

gameing and watching youtube and sometime stream

[fossil cedar]

What games? Settings resolution?

[empty kayak]

doom eternal assassine creen new one call of duty wold war resident evil village and many others

and i got a 27 inch 1440p 165hz and a 27 inch 1080p 240hz

[fossil cedar]

You multitask much?

[empty kayak]

and i want mostly high settings

just discord and looking up stuff online about a game i am playing if i get stuck

[fossil cedar]

Idk you might tbh

[empty kayak]

or destiny 2

i mean destiny 2 i play to

so do you think i will see any diffent if i go to 32gb from 16gb

without overclock the ram

[clever eagle]

yes

[empty kayak]

WD - WD_BLACK SN750 NVMe Gaming 1TB PCIe Gen 3 x4 Internal Solid State Drive

then i thinking of getting that is that a good nvme

[clever eagle]

umm

[clever eagle]

here

[empty kayak]

its on sale for 119.99 from 259.99

[clever eagle]

oh ok

you can get

[empty kayak]

im trying to get stuff from best buy

since it the closest to me

[clever eagle]

ok

[empty kayak]

or should i stick with a sata ssd

all it gonna be use for is storing games my windows is on my 500gb nvme

like all my mmorpgs games

[clever eagle]

hmm

[empty kayak]

and like maybe call of duty

so with that being said should i stick with sata ssd or nvme cause the sata one is 94.99 and the nvme is 119.99

WD - Blue 1TB SATA 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive

[clever eagle]

how big is the sata

[empty kayak]

1tb just like the nvme

[clever eagle]

95 vs $117

[empty kayak]

119 lol but yea are wd blue good sata ssd

[clever eagle]

how much does SK Hynix gold cost in USA

or the sn550

[fossil cedar]

Sn750 is aight but nowhere near worth 200

[empty kayak]

idk never heard of t hem

its on sake for 119@fossil cedar

sale

and the wd blue is 94.99 it was 189.99

[fossil cedar]

If you're going budget get the mp33

[empty kayak]

i just never use wd blue or whatever it was always samsung

which one is that

[fossil cedar]

@empty kayak https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101

Mp33 is team

[empty kayak]

im trying to stick with best buy and not have to order i really dont got a card to use

[fossil cedar]

Not really

[empty kayak]

so im limted

[fossil cedar]

The wd is barely worth 95$

Ohh 1 sec then

[empty kayak]

i hate to ask is crucial mx500 any good

[fossil cedar]

@empty kayak https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1

Yeah it's good

[empty kayak]

ok i can get that one its in stock at my local best buiy

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't say it's worth extra over the mp33 but

[empty kayak]

but they dont got anything team at best buy

or at my local best buy

they just got crucial samsung wd blue wd black nvme

and sandisk but i heard bad things about them

so like i said im limted and the closetest micro center is over 3 hours away from me

best buy is only like 20 mins

so out of crucial mx500 and wd blue and the wd black sn750 nvme which would would you buy

they all are 1tb big

2 of them are sata ssd and the other is nvme ssd

[fossil cedar]

Hence the shrug

[fossil cedar]

Sn750 if boot drive, mx500 if mass storage

[empty kayak]

i got my boot drive on the 500gb nvme i got now

[tardy heron]

Same

[fossil cedar]

Yeah can move to 1tb if you wish like

[empty kayak]

so you would go with crucial mx500 for storing my games

[tardy heron]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-3-100-Internal-Solid-MZ-V8V500BW/dp/B08THW4S3T/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=500gb+m.2&qid=1630490025&sr=8-3

isnt this qute a good deal

50£ for samsung 980

[empty kayak]

i dont to really order cause i dont got a card

[tardy heron]

also how good is this cause i have it and got it on sale for 40£
(i got the 500gb 1)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT500P2SSD8-500GB-Internal-2300/dp/B086BGWNY8/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=500gb+m.2&qid=1630490205&s=computers&sr=1-5

[clever eagle]

back

what happened

[tardy heron]

do u know how good the crucial p2 ssd above u is

[clever eagle]

yes i do

[tardy heron]

can u tell me lol

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

P2 is pretty meh

[zinc ermine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VXyqqs/silicon-power-a80-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-su001tbp34a80m28ab

this one isnt a bad choice either

@empty kayak

[clever eagle]

hi

[rancid briar]

Me after getting a pre built pc

[wheat coral]

, @warm pasture

[wheat coral]

floppa is custom gammer

[clever eagle]

my epic pc

[peak ginkgo]

That's hot...

[warm pasture]

Oooohhhhh

[wheat coral]

That’s your first message

[covert vapor]

Are those holes drilled into the top randomly? Fascinating. Should've kept it closed to get the smoke really circulating

[solar pond]

mmm, love me some magic smoke in the morning 😄

perfect to start the day!

[stone pendant]

turning my pc into a smoker

[crimson thicket]

@covert vapor that was a common case mod in the early 00s

Add exhaust fan on top

[covert vapor]

In order to put an extra fan in, the holes would have to be in some sort of organized pattern to be capable of having a fan screwed in, this looks like just a bunch of holes randomly drilled in

[charred quail]

Is the AMD NZXT mobo good? I absolutely love the look

[crimson thicket]

@covert vapor some ppl were better than others at it idk lol

[tight sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_xy6O3CdA

[crimson thicket]

@covert vapor ^^

My case from 2004

[charred quail]

Can I buy a mesh like the NZXT mobo?

[covert vapor]

Oh, I don't mean to imply it isn't a good way to squeeze more out of an airflow limited case, I've even considered doing it myself, but drilling holes willy nilly in a manner that doesn't allow you to really benefit, such as putting in another fan is an...interesting idea

[cedar rapids]

Can someone please tell me why my pc is turning on but doesn’t have a display output on the motherboard or gpu?

[fossil cedar]

It's alright but v overpriced

[charred quail]

Ty

[fossil cedar]

Np

[vernal dirge]

I gotta ask.

Are you actually plugged into the GPU and are the monitors on?

Second, is the GPU seated properly?

Third, is the Ram seated properly?

Try reseating all 3 and see if it works.

Worse case scenario you get a little PC speaker and plug it into the speaker pin out to listen to beep codes.

Could be a bad ram stick.

[covert vapor]

Or it could be that the PCIe slot be borked

[vernal dirge]

That too.

What kind of mobo is that?

[covert vapor]

Looks like an oem board to me 🤔

[vernal dirge]

A dell maybe?

[stoic island]

Could just do single stick and then clear cmos

[covert vapor]

Maybe, it seems to be standard atx and Dell did use some boards compatible with normal psus

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks like some intel mobo

not actually dell

[covert vapor]

Actually, yeah it is an Intel board, I zoomed it in a bit and it says Intel desktop board above the PCIe slot

[charred quail]

11900k or the 5950x?

[obsidian wigeon]

what do you do? like use case for those chips

also 11900k horrible choice for anything

[charred quail]

Mk noted ty lol

[obsidian wigeon]

5900x is gud for gaming, even workstation, 5950x even better for workstation stuff

5950x is a tad slower in games than 5900x

[charred quail]

Was only debating bc I love the NZXT mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

nzxt mobo is overpriced piece of crap ngl

[charred quail]

Looks so clean and aleep

Tbh I just want a clean sleek pc

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks clean but it's crap

[charred quail]

Buttery smooth

Any other mobos like that?

Can I buy covers for mobos to make em look like it?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope, sadly

[still roost]

Frostybox#2021 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[charred quail]

Heck

I want so bad

The all white or all black looks so fine

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah it's a shame

[real flicker]

What way is the nzxt mobos crap just curious

[fossil cedar]

5950x, 11900k is 💩

[charred quail]

Ty

[fossil cedar]

Yw

[charred quail]

I'd probably still get that mobo if it was AMD

God NZXT makes pretty stuff

[fossil cedar]

The b550 nzxt aight, the z490 and z590 dont touch

[charred quail]

B550? Why no touch others?

[vague oracle]

Z490 is a pretty bad OEM

Z590 is just Asrock which speaks for itself

[charred quail]

Asrock?

[vague oracle]

A brand of mobos

Which rn isn’t very good

[charred quail]

Oh the strix b550

?

[worn wave]

No

Strix is a Asus brand

[charred quail]

Ohhh the NZXT B550

Oh my goodness they do have amd lol I maaay get it I want it

So clean

All black parts some cold white led fans

Muah

[vague oracle]

This is really the only white mobo I can recommend

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-Strix-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B08F9VP2RC/ref=asc_df_B08F9VP2RC/

[fossil cedar]

B550 steel legend if you have a older cpu to upgrade with

Or gigabyte vision works lol

[vague oracle]

The gigabyte vision B550 is barely white

It’s mostly black

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah

I mean the b550 nzxt is alright

Like asrock make decent amd boards

They just hate intel

[vague oracle]

@charred quail Do you care about overclocking?

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

[fossil cedar]

Tbf derbaur ln2 oc'd on the n7 b550

[obsidian wigeon]

b550 nzxt is p good then

[fossil cedar]

And it was decent

[vague oracle]

It should be good then

[obsidian wigeon]

also classic question of "why nzxt bad"

kek

[crimson thicket]

@fossil cedar I have 2 ASRock Intel boards they work great in my experience

[vague oracle]

From when?

[obsidian wigeon]

asrock is meh lately

[vague oracle]

Old ones were good

[obsidian wigeon]

for intel

[vague oracle]

New ones are meh

[fossil cedar]

I mean they work just not great

[crimson thicket]

@vague oracle 2 of those

[obsidian wigeon]

h570 is a bit meh but works same as b560

well it's non ocable anyway, wouldn't matter

[vague oracle]

^

[crimson thicket]

Power limit overclocking

[obsidian wigeon]

if we talk z it's meh

yeah but it's not actually oc

power limit just lets cpu boost more often and higher

[charred quail]

No

[vague oracle]

Power limit overclocking isn’t really OCing

[charred quail]

Idk even how

[obsidian wigeon]

?

[vague oracle]

I think he meant to reply to me

Then yeah just go for the NZXT B550

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

[fossil cedar]

B560 can do that tho

[charred quail]

:>

I wanna build a 3090 build

Clean as hell 3090 5950x

[obsidian wigeon]

do you really need the 5950x?

just gotta ask cause 5900x better for games

n cheaper by a big gap

[charred quail]

U sure?

[viral ore]

wait for 3090 super O_O

and yeah, tf you need a 5950x for

[vague oracle]

And what do you need a 3090 for?

[charred quail]

Idk the frames

[obsidian wigeon]

yes im sure

5900x is faster in games

[fossil cedar]

Same frames as a 5800x

Lel

[obsidian wigeon]

5950x is slower cause more cores

lower clockspeed

[tame nexus]

What’s like best cooler I can get

[obsidian wigeon]

depends on the cpu

[tame nexus]

5900 I’m thinking

[obsidian wigeon]

but generally i'd say se-224-xt, nh-d15 and fuma 2 for air

that cpu needs an aio lel

like 240mm at least, like arctic liquid freezer ii

[fossil cedar]

Arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm for non custom

[obsidian wigeon]

420 sure is best ya

but spensiv

[charred quail]

3090 super??

You're messing with me

[obsidian wigeon]

3090 super is coming soon

[tame nexus]

Cheaper on Amazon

[charred quail]

Then wouldn't you want a 5950x for that??

[obsidian wigeon]

no

5950x makes you lose gaming perf actually

lel

[charred quail]

So a 5900x is the pro gamer move?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[charred quail]

I'll order that now

Ty homies

[vague oracle]

5800x would be a better choice for pure gaming

[charred quail]

Well I also wanna do other stuff

[vague oracle]

Like what?

[charred quail]

I work as a video editor

For collage kids

[vague oracle]

What programs?

[charred quail]

Like myself

DaVinci

[obsidian wigeon]

5800x is even plenty

just use the gpu

nvenc is speedy

[charred quail]

5900k is what I please

[obsidian wigeon]

5900x ain't that needed tbh, unless you don't want 5800x to save cash

[worn wave]

It is better to save money and spend it elsewhere where it might actually help performance or help to get something higher quality

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[analog hearth]

even more of an underrated opinion, get parts that are reliable as well

[worn wave]

reliable should be implied when you say high quality

[analog hearth]

that's true though

[charred quail]

Bench marks show 5950x is the same as 5900

U rite

[obsidian wigeon]

which benches?

[formal girder]

Better not be ubm that your using to compare because thats just biased scores

[tame nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[charred quail]

Ubm

[tame nexus]

Am I going overkill with the mother board

[worn wave]

It's best to look at application specific benchmarks.

Userbench is awful

Very inaccurate and you should never use it

[tame nexus]

Wait is that build link blank

[worn wave]

Yes

[tame nexus]

Tf

[worn wave]

Copy the link above the list

[tame nexus]

Ah I’m slow

[viral ore]

these are averages, so they are approximate

[tame nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WYFc9N

[charred quail]

Intel ftw?

[tame nexus]

Am I going over kill with the mother board

On that

[obsidian wigeon]

nah lol

11900k is expensive

not worth the money

[worn wave]

Passmark is pretty good "generic" benchmark software

But it is always best to find application specific benchmarks

[viral ore]

^

if you're just gaming though

get the best single core perf you can

[obsidian wigeon]

ew CL18 ram

change it to 3600C16 ones

mobo is also unneeded

you can go b550

like something like aorus master

or asus strix b550-f

as for ssd, i don't really recommend sn550 much

better to get p31, 980, pilot-e and stuff

[vague oracle]

Definitely

[obsidian wigeon]

ram is meh

[fossil cedar]

Don't think p500a fits the 420mm

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RYjfXb

It fits it in the front of it

[fossil cedar]

Also rm

[vague oracle]

Look at the new link

[fossil cedar]

Ahh good

[fossil cedar]

Ohh it does?

Smeggsy

[vague oracle]

It should

[fossil cedar]

:o

Damm

I thought it only did 360

[tame nexus]

What would be a better case then

Or is that fine

[vague oracle]

That case is fine

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[vague oracle]

Wait Pato are temps of 62C good for a 5900x under prime 95?

[dark island]

[tame nexus]

Wait so is 750w good bc on your list you got that

Bc I thought I had to go with 850w

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[dark island]

Yeah get 850 to future proof the build for any future upgrades

[obsidian wigeon]

future proof?

850w is not even enough for 3090 kek

just to asd

[dark island]

Spoiled

850 is plenty

[versed finch]

Hello

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't have a 3090

but 3090 needs a 1000w psu to be safe

[vague oracle]

Nope 850 is not plenty for a 3090

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[vague oracle]

I had a 3090

[fossil cedar]

Not for a 3090

[obsidian wigeon]

3090 alone peaks at 400-500w

stock

that's load spikes btw

so it's dangerous

[dark island]

ITS LIKE U GUYS HAVE A 3090

[obsidian wigeon]

850w psu isn't even that good for 3080

[dark island]

Bruh

[obsidian wigeon]

these cards are hungry

[vague oracle]

…I literally did have one up until a few days ago

[fossil cedar]

@vague oracle had one lmao

[dark island]

Barely anyone has 30 series cards

[obsidian wigeon]

wut

[dark island]

Spoiled

[vague oracle]

Lmao that’s not true

[tame nexus]

As soon as I get my Labor Day pay check ima start buying my parts

[obsidian wigeon]

many has 30 series here

also having 3090 doesn't mean one is spoiled

i guess someone saying this would be a child

[tame nexus]

One is lucky*

[vague oracle]

Spoiled? I worked my ass off for pretty much everything I own, try being cut off from any funds your parents may give you since 13-14

[tame nexus]

I’ve worked all summer for this lol

It’s gonna hurt

[dark island]

If a child has a 3090 his parents spoiled him so bad lol

[tame nexus]

When I’m done

[dark island]

Ok sorry lol

[tame nexus]

3k is gonna hurt so bad

[vague oracle]

I’m 17 and had a 3090

Doesn’t mean I’m spoiled

[dark island]

@vague oracle UR A GUY DESERVES 1 TAKE A 👑 KING

[tame nexus]

But at 18 making around 1k or more every 2 weeks while in school is a W for me

[fossil cedar]

Lol heard of a job

[vague oracle]

Yeah that is pretty solid for being in school

[obsidian wigeon]

"barely anyone has 30 series" is a stupid thing to say

[dark island]

No

[formal girder]

Yes power hungry

[tame nexus]

I was making close to 2k over the summer

[obsidian wigeon]

how is it barely when everyone keeps buying it???

[tame nexus]

But I was working 120 ish hrs

[obsidian wigeon]

it keeps having shortages

[dark island]

Most people still in the gtx

[charred quail]

Does everyone overclock?

[vague oracle]

Not really

[charred quail]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

sure but many actually has 30 series cards

[dark island]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

a good chunk with 20

[dark island]

It’s a challenge

[obsidian wigeon]

oc is not a challenge

[vague oracle]

Only reason I overclock is trying to get higher and higher on timespy rankings

[obsidian wigeon]

you just need to have hw and knowledge

[dark island]

If ur pc has a water cooling system

[obsidian wigeon]

and you're off to the races

[tame nexus]

I never knew how much taxes hurt until I started making good cash lmao

[vague oracle]

I have water cooling and it ain’t a challenge

[obsidian wigeon]

aios exists

[tame nexus]

I wanna cry when I see like -400 on my net pay

[obsidian wigeon]

pretty easy to set up and isn't super expensive

custom loops are the expensive stuff cause you buy the parts and put it together yourself

aio has everything in one

[tame nexus]

Is there any parts I should wait for like Black Friday time to get

[obsidian wigeon]

custom loops needs pipes, fittings, rad, fans, pump, and block

[vague oracle]

You could put together a cpu only loop for fairly cheap

[obsidian wigeon]

those add up fast

[vague oracle]

Like 5-600

[obsidian wigeon]

coolant too

[charred quail]

Should I learn to overclock? Seems like everyone does

[obsidian wigeon]

well expensive compared to an aio

nah, not needed

[vague oracle]

Nah

[charred quail]

Extra fps?

[obsidian wigeon]

the cpu you're getting has auto oc

it's called pbo

[vague oracle]

Barely

Pbo is nice I love having a 5.15ghz boost 5900x

[obsidian wigeon]

pbo is safest and easiest way to oc

you set it and forget it

[vague oracle]

Ryzen master and stuff is fun to mess around in but it really isn’t worth it

Unless you have a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't oc these days myself even with nice cooling

nvidia has auto oc thing that works ok for gpu on 20 and 30 series

while amd has pbo

the work i do get barely gets me more fps, just scores lel

[vague oracle]

And it has an auto OC for its gpus but I didn’t test it out

[obsidian wigeon]

hmm

im curious how amd's works

[charred quail]

And the NZXT b550 will be okay with a 3090 5900x?

[obsidian wigeon]

wait you're talking about 3090 you had?

and yes

[vague oracle]

Why a 3090?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's gonna be fine

[charred quail]

I want it

[vague oracle]

But do you even have a use for it?

[obsidian wigeon]

3080 better value

[charred quail]

Yeah

[vague oracle]

No point in spending money to spend money

[obsidian wigeon]

very same perf in games tbh

[charred quail]

No no I have the cash soon so I want to get the 3090

[vague oracle]

And what are you going to use it for?

[fossil cedar]

Pbo on Ryzen is a couple switches that's all you really need to know, better than manual of

[charred quail]

Gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

your use case doesn't really guarantee a 3090

3080 is very close to it

[vague oracle]

Exactly a waste of money, a 3080ti is better value and better perf in some games

[versed finch]

and thats some facts

[charred quail]

Mods

[vague oracle]

The 3090 is more of a workstation card because no gaming with actually utilize 24Gb

[charred quail]

Best ones all but require 3090

[vague oracle]

What?

No

[versed finch]

3090 its more for developing

for gaming its overkill

[charred quail]

Mhmm and I want it

[obsidian wigeon]

3080 would save you good chunk

to spend on like cooling, case, psu, or storage

[vague oracle]

What mods “require a 3090”

[charred quail]

4k skyrim mods

Lmaoo

[obsidian wigeon]

eh nope

same performance as 3090

[vague oracle]

I could run 4k Skyrim mods with a rx480…

[obsidian wigeon]

shouldn't even matter

in 4k, all games

[charred quail]

I've seen it run with both 3080 and 90 and way better with the 90

[versed finch]

me having RX550

[obsidian wigeon]

3090 has shown to have tiny gap of performance

like a few percent

[charred quail]

Yes and I want it

[obsidian wigeon]

very lil gap

[vague oracle]

Just go for a 3080ti then

[obsidian wigeon]

if you want to waste money then go on

[vague oracle]

Same perf as a 3090 but cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

if not listen to us lel

[charred quail]

Lil gap between 1080 and the 3060

[vague oracle]

What does that have to do with anything?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[versed finch]

hey guys what do you think about Intel I9 10850k and RTX 3060?

[obsidian wigeon]

prebuilt?

[versed finch]

nope

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

10850k is not bad

price is decent

[vague oracle]

I’d bring up the GPU if you have the budget for it

[obsidian wigeon]

3060 is eh

but feasible

it's not bad

[versed finch]

i cant really upgrade now with the prices beeing so high

[vague oracle]

So then yeah go for the 3060

[versed finch]

I'm gonna use it for Video Editing

[obsidian wigeon]

should do decent

[charred quail]

Benchmarks I see in games gives 3090 like 45% on the 3080ti

[obsidian wigeon]

nvenc helps

wut

45% is false lmao

where did you get that info

[versed finch]

wikipedia maybe lol

[obsidian wigeon]

let me show ya gn review of 3090 or something

[vague oracle]

That’s not true

Where did you read that?

[versed finch]

.

[vague oracle]

Ehh Wikipedia is actually a pretty solid source these days

[obsidian wigeon]

https://youtu.be/Xgs-VbqsuKo

it's actually like 10-15% perf diff between 3080 and 3090

not bad

but however 3080ti is same perf as 3090 lel

[versed finch]

first of all why would you even play 8k?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just thumbnail, ignore that

the review is actually good

[versed finch]

and isnt MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio 24G the best?

[obsidian wigeon]

ehhh, not really

[versed finch]

The leap for the RTX 3090 isn't quite as dramatic, with 20% more RT cores than the RTX 3080. (i also found this)

[versed finch]

for ya

[obsidian wigeon]

https://youtu.be/Vtkk-_0jrPU

see

[versed finch]

The RTX 3090 Is For Content Creators

[obsidian wigeon]

close to 3090 in perf

like few fps difference

[versed finch]

like 10-20?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[versed finch]

as i heard

[obsidian wigeon]

not 10-20 fps

[charred quail]

Cool I'll get it lul

[obsidian wigeon]

5 at best or something

[versed finch]

bruh

[charred quail]

But will a 3090 fit inside of a meshify 3 case?

Or meshify 3.0

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta check gpu length with case support

[charred quail]

Ty I will

[obsidian wigeon]

The case looks small so it might not fit, if you put an aio inside on the front or something

[versed finch]

wait

[charred quail]

Inside the front? Wym

[tardy heron]

depends on the 3090

[charred quail]

Fe

[obsidian wigeon]

on the front, front of the case

[vague oracle]

There’s a Meshify 3 now?

[versed finch]

isnt this case that one who used Linus on that 5000 dollars PC for IntelGamingDay?

or some' like that?

[charred quail]

No I mean 2.0

[obsidian wigeon]

nah there's no meshy 3

ya

[vague oracle]

You can fit up to 360mm gpus in the Meshify 2 C

[tardy heron]

thats very close to the 3090 being 336

actually its got a bit of room ig

[vague oracle]

And 467 in the Meshify 2 with the front fans

[obsidian wigeon]

so the non compact is the version to go

[vague oracle]

With the HDD cage is becomes even less

With it it drops down to 316

[charred quail]

Think a 3080ti could play cyberpunk on 2k with Ray tracing?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

as well as 3090

[charred quail]

i talked with the modding group who makes mods

they said after testing the 3080TI is closer to 3080 in pref

very Vram heavy in modding i geuss

but thb i may still go for 3080ti

u rite

last question foxy

3600 ram? 4x8? or 2x 13

[versed finch]

wait wait wait

2x 13gb ram sticks?

[charred quail]

16

mb

[versed finch]

u wrote 13

[charred quail]

?

[versed finch]

??????????????

[charred quail]

my bad

[stoic island]

2x16 nice for upgradability

[charred quail]

do i need 64?? like ever?

[versed finch]

wath cpu u use?

[charred quail]

imma gi 6900x

5900x*

[versed finch]

9 5900x?

or 7

or 5?