#building-and-recc-chat

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fossil cedar
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Make gold xbox controller 02nod

obsidian wigeon
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yes

fossil cedar
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The leave free gold on the cpu smh

restive halo
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Same usually lol

restive halo
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Also side note. Watched a video for the 5600g build and it said they only got 30fps on WOW. That's not great especially if that's all they are using the PC for. Is that an accurate number? I feel like it should be able to run med/high on WOW?

obsidian wigeon
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Which res?

obsidian wigeon
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So far, I could see fh4 running on it at 1080p med at like 65 fps

fossil cedar
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Ram important for an igpu and for Ryzen

obsidian wigeon
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it's no slouch of an igpu

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16 gigs of ram in dual channel, 3200c16

fossil cedar
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5600g can do like 4000mhz cl18 as well soo

obsidian wigeon
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ya, easily

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wish it had rdna 2 lel

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imagine how fast it would get

restive halo
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She is buying that Balistic 3600 cl 16

restive halo
fossil cedar
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@restive halo wait are you putting the 5600g in that white build you showed earlier with a dedicated gpu?

restive halo
fossil cedar
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Ahh good

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Cuz otherwise what's the point of 5600g lel

restive halo
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So with the 5600g and that Ballistic ram what should she be able to get out of WOW?

fossil cedar
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Yeah should do lol

restive halo
restive halo
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The case she bought already. I had nothing to do with it

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The psu I'm giving her till she can get a better one

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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I'd also spend the extra 5$ for an sn550

fossil cedar
restive halo
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Asroc sorry

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That's the same MB for my wifes

fossil cedar
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Asrock pro 4 doesn't have bios flash back btw

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So you might need a ryzen 3000 series cpu yo update the bios

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3000 or older*

restive halo
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For the 5600g?

stoic island
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ye, zen 3 apus need pretty recent bios

little osprey
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is 5600x plenty for gaming or should i stretch my budget to get a better cpu

stoic island
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5600x plenty for most games

restive halo
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Oh the wife's is a Ryzen 5 3600

restive halo
little osprey
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If i wanted better which cpu should i get?

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just wondering

stoic island
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I mean, you have spare zen 2 chips you can flash a new bios on with if it doesn't boot so it should be okay if you can go through the trouble

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but smth like pro vdh wifi fairly cheap and has bios flashback

restive halo
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Ok I'll tell her to get the other board. I have no chips

restive halo
stoic island
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Ye

restive halo
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Also amazon has 2 pro vdh wifi look exactly the same but one is $109 and one is like 83

stoic island
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B450 and b550 I assume

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There's also b550 and b560

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All different chipset

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B560 is for Intel

restive halo
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Both B550 they even have different Ratings

stoic island
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One might be refurb/used

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Also weird sellers

restive halo
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Renewed

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Is that ok

stoic island
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It's refurb basically

restive halo
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Should I tell her to get the new one?

fossil cedar
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No need if ya don't mind using your 3700x or your wifes 3600 to update bios

restive halo
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No I mean for the 5600g build

stoic island
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Ye, refurb usually would mean it has older bios

restive halo
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With that board it has the flash anyway. I mean is refurbished ok to buy?

restive halo
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Ok I get what your saying use my wife's cpu to flash and then use it for her 5600g

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Got it

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So how would I go about doing that

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
restive halo
fossil cedar
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Imo

restive halo
fossil cedar
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B550 prime or pro 4 should be good

restive halo
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@fossil cedar Pro 4 is what I got my wife. That board?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
restive halo
fossil cedar
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Ye?

restive halo
fossil cedar
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Ehh idk tbh

restive halo
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New it is lol

fossil cedar
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Also why buying all on Amazon?

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Actually ignore that it's probably doing its dum Amazon thing of estimating shipping to me outside the us

restive halo
fossil cedar
restive halo
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Where can she get it

fossil cedar
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Nice

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Mb it was just a glitch or something

restive halo
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How good is the wifi on that. It looks intense compared to the 2 antenna on my PRO vdh lol

fossil cedar
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Same thing just a different style of antenna

jagged ember
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They don't really specify the specs of the antenna so

restive halo
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Lol . It just looks like it would be better

marsh kiln
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What do I do if a factory reset has been on 26 percent for like 5 minutes now

potent portal
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Keep waiting

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5 minutes is nothing

marsh kiln
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I guess I should not have reset the pc right now, now I am in someone's house resetting a pc to buy it

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How do I stop it?

inland parrot
potent portal
little osprey
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So for the p200a drgb does it include a fan hub?

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if so how many fans can you connect to it?

potent portal
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It appears the controller is integrated into the front panel, and you daisy chain the connectors with their proprietary cables. Then there's the connection to the motherboard that comes from the front panel.

little osprey
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How can I post in build pics and pet pics?

vernal dirge
potent portal
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Build pics you should be able to do already, pet pics and other channels you need to be level 3. Your name will turn green.

little osprey
# potent portal

So to use the controller with daisy chain i have to buy their drgb fans

potent portal
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Yes

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Isn't greed fun?

little osprey
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Damn.

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Do you know if i can connect the DRGB fans that come with the pc into an argb controller?

potent portal
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Yes, using the connector that would normally connect to the motherboard

little osprey
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Drgb is same pin out as argb then

potent portal
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Yes

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Same thing, different name. Like XMP/DOCP.

little osprey
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which argb fan controller would you recommend?

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Something low cost, preferably

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I saw a cooler master one but i’d have to sand down the fan connectors for it to fit in it (proprietary connections strike again)

potent portal
little osprey
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Yeah that’s what i was looking at

little osprey
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scuffed server permissions i see

potent portal
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More like anti-bot and troll measures

vernal dirge
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How long does it even take to get to level 3?

potent portal
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A few minutes tbh

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Just chat in general for a little bit

inland parrot
potent portal
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For some things sure but not really designed for drives like that, more for phones and stuff

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Basic specs don't tell the whole story for drives and that's really all it looks at

little osprey
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Youtube videos tend to be pretty informative

inland parrot
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oh

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silicon power a80 or sn550

stoic island
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depends on the price

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a80 if same price

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sn550 if cheaper at all

earnest olive
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@little osprey in p360a the built in controller supplied an additional standard ARGB connector

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not sure if it would be the same for p200a

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I was able to hook up the AIO's ARGB water block to the controller's extra connector and daisy chain the AIO fans off of that block

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so 5 things controlled by built in case controller in total

little osprey
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Oooh

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honestly p360a works too

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My only problem is my desk cabinet where i currently place my pc might not have room for anything larger than a p360a

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and if i get a p360a i'd probably want to look at the glass window

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but my desk isnt large enough

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then this room doesnt have space for a larger desk

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so big mess of what ifs sadge

little osprey
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I've been in the server for a long time, I just rarely chat

jovial radish
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wish my fan cables were longer

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I could route them behind the mobo to hide

little osprey
potent portal
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Exactly. I'm just saying it's not because the permissions are bad, it's because we have to take measures against the dozens of bots that try to hit the server every day.

little osprey
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Oh alright

snow wasp
little osprey
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too much clutter in this room for that, seems like a good idea otherwise

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I think im sold on the streacom da2 v2

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its expensive tho 😭

formal girder
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Why build the desk when the box it comes in is stable enough with it inside

viral niche
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Ah

vale garnet
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https://newegg.io/5cfe189 Building my own (and first) pc. I've got one right now (borrowing) but it can't run a bunch of the software/games i wanna run such as VR. I've done a good bit of research and i think this is around what i'd like here, still not sure how these specs will work together so i came here for help! I will be building it mostly by myself (I have a few friends that can help), and i have a budget of ~$1750. Feel free to DM or ping me if you can help :D

little osprey
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says the GPU is out of stock

vale garnet
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Thank ya i'll use that

little osprey
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This way you can list parts from amazon and other retailers too instead of just newegg

vale garnet
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Gotcha

peak ginkgo
peak ginkgo
blazing oyster
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Where can I get a good cheap starter pc that looks cool

little osprey
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ABS from newegg

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They have $900 options i think

obsidian wigeon
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no

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$900 options are outta stock

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lowest you can go is like 1.3k

peak ginkgo
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Everyone goes for the cheapest first so keep that in mind, they run out of stock a lot quicker than the more expensive ones

desert gulch
peak ginkgo
desert gulch
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@peak ginkgo you hear about the sn550?

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Looks like it's flash got downgraded sadly

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So now when slc cache is full it gets hella slow

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As in sn350 slow when both drives have their caches full

peak ginkgo
desert gulch
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Yeah sadly it looks like wd just gimped it, sad but now they join adata and crucial ig

peak ginkgo
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Oof, that is sad

desert gulch
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Yea

peak ginkgo
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I'm deeply disappointed in WD

desert gulch
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May be worth throwing a p31 on that list if in budget

earnest olive
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bruh

echo forum
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does anyone know what could be causing my rgb fans to not work? i have them set up on a controller and its dedicated sata cable. their corsair if that matters

earnest olive
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apology for poor english
when were you when wd sn550 dies
i was sat at home eating thermal paste when ryan ring
'wd sn550 is kill'
'no'
and you???

earnest olive
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i'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to corsair

echo forum
earnest olive
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did you open icue?

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i believe icue needs to stay open

echo forum
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i opened up icue but to no avail...

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this is my first build and i think i screwed myself

gaunt matrix
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are your fans plugged into the motherboard? it should be labeled sys_fan

echo forum
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the fans are plugged into the corsair controller i installed on the back

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same with the rgb

gaunt matrix
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and the fans are for the front of the pc or are they for a cooler?

echo forum
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yes the fans are nzxt fans and the cooler is a corsair h100i elite

jagged ember
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Welp

gaunt matrix
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ah ok

jagged ember
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Sn550 dead to me now

potent portal
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Why? Did they change the controller or something?

gaunt matrix
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in that case, your aio pump fans should be plugged into the pump_fan into your motherboard

jagged ember
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They made it so if it's flash is full

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It goes real slow

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So they definitely changed something

obsidian wigeon
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well that's the weakness of dramless ssds

potent portal
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Full being what exactly? 50%? 75%?

obsidian wigeon
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full? well you're in luck for slow speeds

jagged ember
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Honestly I can't answer anything past what I said

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I just reworded what they said above

potent portal
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What's your source then? I'll look

jagged ember
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Intel would know

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I'm gonna look in a bit I think

obsidian wigeon
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ah

jagged ember
potent portal
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Oh I just scrolled up and I see what you were talking about now. It's the CACHE not the FLASH. Big difference there. That makes a much bigger impact on overall performance.

viral niche
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Hi

earnest olive
obsidian wigeon
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oh

jagged ember
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I can still hear her

obsidian wigeon
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cache and flash changed

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sn550 yeah, dropped outta my heart now

jagged ember
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As if she's still on my pc, being my boot drive right now

potent portal
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That's the old drive you remember that you hear, she's changed now. She's no good for you.

obsidian wigeon
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meanwhile

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my wd green is perfectly fine

potent portal
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I raid my greens, they're good too

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Works fine for a game drive

analog pulsar
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Nice

frank stirrup
potent portal
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Oh please Shizuku is cute and you know it

frank stirrup
potent portal
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I... don't know how to respond to that

timid kiln
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I'm wondering what boutique PC case shops exist out there. I want to start making something special but I am really not feeling most of the things that are available out there right now. The most unique approach seems to be the Azza pyramid tower case.

obsidian wigeon
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nope

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there's sadly no such thing

timid kiln
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drat! I guess it's either build it yourself or do something different from existing cases 😩

potent portal
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There's even some that look like jet engines and stuff

earnest olive
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I'm buying that case immediately

empty depot
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Guys rn I can afford to do any one of these three :

  1. Add a 140mm fan on top of the case
  2. Replace the amd stock thermal paste with a good one
  3. Replace the amd stock cooler with an after market one (a very cheap one tho)
    which one will get me the most performance improvement
earnest olive
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3

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id-cooling se-224-xt is $30 and will do a fantastic job on the 3600x while being much quieter and already comes with good thermal paste so you don't need to do option 2

empty depot
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ok thanks

earnest olive
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now

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none of them are really going to give you performance as the stock cooler is good enough to overclock the 3600x without throttling

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but you will get significantly reduced temps/noise

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which is still worth it :)

potent portal
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You could see longer boosting performance at lower temps but besides that, yeah

earnest olive
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@frank stirrup

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you probably know india PC parts availability better than I do

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lol

frank stirrup
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good cooler in india?

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1 sec

empty depot
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thanks

real flicker
real flicker
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Yeah other but only 16gb of ram forgot to take that off

fossil cedar
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Well what is the pc for?

real flicker
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Gaming alot some heavy games, alot of fps games and sims

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As in simulators😂

fossil cedar
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Then 32gb ram mb

real flicker
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Yeah that is the plan to up the ram

fossil cedar
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I'd also change out the aio to an arctic liquid freezer ii 280/360 or lian li Galahad 360 or ek aio rgb 360

real flicker
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Any particular reason? I have thought about changing it

fossil cedar
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But if it's not to warm then that's fine just some cooler master aios have been known to leak

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Also 240mm aios are not near the perf of a 280mm even

real flicker
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Yeah I also do find that this one runs a bit loud but I think that's due to it not being in the correct mob port as I don't have an aio pump slot on it

fossil cedar
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Well aio pump are just fan headers running at 100% soo

tight sorrel
fossil cedar
tight sorrel
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I thought they were PWM controlled?

fossil cedar
tight sorrel
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yes, cos they plug into a PWM header

fossil cedar
real flicker
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Should they I thought they should adjust there speed to the temps?

fossil cedar
tight sorrel
marsh kiln
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Made this about as close as I could get it

vernal dirge
marsh kiln
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The pc I have now

vernal dirge
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Ah I see.

steady atlas
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Anyone know a console streaming like pc

vernal dirge
steady atlas
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what does iirc mean

vernal dirge
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Though you’re not going to get notifications and all that.

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For that you’d need a capture card and all.

marsh kiln
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I know xbox can stream but you don't get to have overlys or much other things like that. Or really get to look at chat what I did was start it on my Xbox and manage the stream to twitch with my phone

steady atlas
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I mean I can get a Elgato thing but I just need a simple pc too

vernal dirge
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You need a decent PC to stream at high qualities I thought.

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Not great, but decent CPU.

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IIRC anyways, I haven’t streamed in a while

steady atlas
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I can get a elgato but idk what I would need otherwise

marsh kiln
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Cables for it

vernal dirge
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Software too.

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But that’s free.

marsh kiln
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Yep

vernal dirge
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What do elgatos take as input, HDMI?

steady atlas
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Hdmi and 3.0 I think

marsh kiln
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I have a elgato hd60 and I have yet to use it

vernal dirge
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Lol

steady atlas
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Lord

vernal dirge
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I wonder if it’d be a good idea to use Ethernet as cable for HDMI.

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And get an extended set.

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Or if it’d be cheaper to buy 50 ft HDMI.

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Oh for sure HDMI is cheaper.

peak ginkgo
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You'll want a separate PC to stream so you won't drop frames

vernal dirge
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I mean if you’re streaming from console then all he needs is a decent PC.

steady atlas
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Yea Ik streaming from console using a pc

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Im^

keen plover
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anyone know why i cant change the color of my wraith prism cooler, i plugged the 4 pin thing into and rgb header and it turned the fan light off but the ring is still glowing but coolermaster software keeps saying "plug a cm device in to continue"

tight sorrel
keen plover
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i plugged the one into an rgb header, it turned the fan lights off

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but the ring and amd is still lit up

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i dont see any pin out that says usb 2.0

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just 12v rgb which i plugged it into

desert crown
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i just finished boilding an dual rtx 3090 for my birthday

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building

tight sorrel
# keen plover i plugged the one into an rgb header, it turned the fan lights off

the cooler has 2 small plugs for cables next to each other. one is for the cable you are using which plugs into the RGB header on your motherbaord. The other port on the cooler (covered with a little rubber cover) allows you to connect a seperate cable that connects to a USB 2.0 header on your motherbaord. If you bought the cooler new, all this should be in the box

keen plover
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i didnt i bought it used, one of the cables youre speaking of is missing

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the rgb cable is the only one i have

tight sorrel
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yeah. the RGB cable is bad way to control the RGB on the cooler. Its next to no control at all

keen plover
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so theres no way to change it

tight sorrel
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nope. not unless you can find the USB cable

keen plover
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that sucks

tight sorrel
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there you go

keen plover
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what exactly is the rgb one even for

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even when its not plugged in the rgb works

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infact plugging it in made some of the rgb turn off lol

tight sorrel
outer zodiac
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Do u guys this is a good deal?

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A 1650 super 4gb for $325?

wispy walrus
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That's just a waste of 335$

outer zodiac
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It’s for my gf she won’t be running much games, more so for sims and school

wispy walrus
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What processer

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Is it gonna have

outer zodiac
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Any suggestions ?

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I’m new at this thing

wispy walrus
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I mean if you want a cheap one go with Intel

outer zodiac
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Will it run well tho? Like I’m willing to spend like 350 on a processor

wispy walrus
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I mean I can send a link to 500-700$ computer if that's what you want

outer zodiac
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I’ll look at the parts in it sure

wispy walrus
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Yeah

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I mean if you get a decent Processer your Graphics card can be over clocked

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So maybe a Ryzen 5 2600x and a GTX 1080

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@outer zodiac

obsidian wigeon
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r5 2600x is bad lol

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Don't buy that

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Lemme make a quick list of mobo+ram+cpu

obsidian wigeon
obsidian wigeon
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wait

still roostBOT
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A Fox Named Kuro#2883 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

obsidian wigeon
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oops

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but lemme redo

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also im surprised how 11400f is 280 atm

sullen spoke
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Bad fox

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Go in time out

obsidian wigeon
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5600x cheaper

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demand i guess

outer zodiac
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Oh yea oky

marsh kiln
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what are some good rgb quiet fans?

outer zodiac
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I’m getting Corsair ones

obsidian wigeon
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corsair what?

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aio? nah those aren't great tbh

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i did my suggestion for the aio

marsh kiln
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mine is doing pretty good

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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arctic freezer 2, lian li galahad or ek aio only aios I would get

marsh kiln
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how do i know what sata plugins will not work after i install and m.2?

viral ore
jagged ember
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The manual

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Yep

marsh kiln
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i do not have one

viral ore
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then get one

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google your motherboard model

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pull up the product page for that model

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go to support or downloads or something like that

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download a pdf of the manual

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alternatively, the information you are looking for is located right on the product page

obsidian wigeon
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^

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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OH BTW @fossil cedar I got called an intel shill today

fossil cedar
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Lmao

frank stirrup
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also apparantly I have intel tattooed on my butt

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according to the same person

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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Idk what you talking bout eyes

marsh kiln
fossil cedar
marsh kiln
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Nah I am good with amd maybe a Nvidia eye lol

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Dang if I get put in a m.2 in my pc I loose 2 sata plugins

earnest olive
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he thinks I'm an intel shill too lmao

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typing from my ryzen 7 5800x

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sitting next to my wall of ryzen boxes

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
earnest olive
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smh intel shill

little osprey
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SMh am4 user

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is the peerless assassin 120 any good?

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5600x

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idk if low profile is good enough for 5600x

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?

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@fossil cedar

jagged ember
fossil cedar
earnest olive
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you're all intel shills

little osprey
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shut

little osprey
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5600x

fossil cedar
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For aio just get arctic?

earnest olive
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I bet your favorite game is userbenchmark lmao

little osprey
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scythe fuma no fit sadge

fossil cedar
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Arctic

little osprey
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money CryingMan

fossil cedar
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Or see if u12s redux fit or something

little osprey
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no

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153 max

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u12s is 158

earnest olive
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lp cooler should be ok on 5600x as long as you stick to gaming only

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fuma 2 fits in there

little osprey
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only mesh :((

earnest olive
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the actual max is 155 apparently

little osprey
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if i put glass panel it is 153

earnest olive
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ah

fossil cedar
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@little osprey what case?

little osprey
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nr200p

fossil cedar
little osprey
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no no no happy_mad

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đŸ€• sff is such a headache to plan

fossil cedar
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Lol

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@little osprey according to pcpp vetroo v5 fits

little osprey
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is vetroo enough for 5600x?

earnest olive
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if you do nothing but game yes

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strongly recommend undervolting

little osprey
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ooooh

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the enthoo evolv itx looks cool

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It also looks like an oven

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should i just quit the search and go o11d mini 💀

little osprey
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Think i just need to quit looking

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and quit this pc dream

versed rock
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If the Fractal Design Torrent hadn't come out, the O11D Mini would have been my next case.

little osprey
versed rock
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I wouldn't call it normie

jagged ember
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it's pretty normie

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basically everyone has it

peak ginkgo
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H510s are normies too but I'm not sure why

little osprey
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*ovens

restive halo
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Anyone know of a budget graphics card to pair with the 5600g? She wants to be able to play the new Harry Potter Hogwarts Legacy when it comes out?

peak ginkgo
restive halo
peak ginkgo
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Ooof, I would go used market then or save up to be able to buy a better GPU otherwise, she'll want to get another one soon after

frank stirrup
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Easy

restive halo
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The only thing she is going to use it for is WOW and that Harry potter

frank stirrup
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Integrated should be fine

little osprey
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use igpu until you can save up more

frank stirrup
#

Graphics settings will need change but yeh

restive halo
little osprey
#

then get a cheap used 970 or something on fb market

peak ginkgo
#

Unless you can find a 1070 for 200

frank stirrup
#

It shall run on a 5600g

little osprey
#

no

frank stirrup
#

Do not worry

little osprey
#

1050ti for 220 meh

#

not too bad but

peak ginkgo
#

Can find better cards for that price

frank stirrup
#

Stick to igpu imo

restive halo
#

Heard

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So plan on the 2060 down the road

frank stirrup
#

If needed

jagged ember
#

you intel shill

earnest olive
#

if you are going to get a dgpu then don't bother with the 5600g @restive halo

#

it's not like intel where you lose nothing upgrading from igpu

#

5600g has crippled cache compared to 5600x

#

performs like a 3600 in some tasks

#

just get a cheaper cpu if you are gonna give it a dgpu

little osprey
#

if i can snag a low profile gpu

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single fan

#

this would be nice

jagged hill
#

This is how the side panel came put before shooting clear.

peak ginkgo
#

I like it

jagged hill
#

I’ll show after clear as well.

#

thank you!!

peak ginkgo
#

You're welcome

little osprey
#

Woah

#

thats pretty cool

jagged hill
#

thank you as well 🙂

stiff gust
#

I have this system specced out, was looking for some good reccomendations

#

I already have cpu fan, cpu, ram, mobo, graphics card

#

not sure what case yet

hallow glen
#

whats ur budget for the rest

#

do you need to be pinged @stiff gust

jagged ember
#

Partially fills that one box on the bingo

worn wave
#

lmfao

hallow glen
#

okedoke

little osprey
worn wave
#

@stiff gust How much did you pay for the CPU?

little osprey
#

7700???

#

bruh

worn wave
#

Or are these old parts you have had or got for super cheap?

little osprey
#

hyper 212

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if you bought these new

#

istg

stiff gust
#

I'm sorry

#

no

#

i didnt

#

i got the mobo,cooler, and cpu for 75$

#

locally

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insane deal imo

#

and my budget for case, psu, and storage is about 125

little osprey
#

Okay not bad not bad

stiff gust
#

i got gpu for 50$ which is reasonable

#

i already have a 3600/5700xt rig but its nice to have a second one for friends/family to use

#

plan to upgrade gpu later, probably throw my gpu in there after i get a new 3000 series card

#

we will see.

little osprey
#

so this is what you have so far

stiff gust
#

also have the hyperx ram

little osprey
#

Is this for gaming?

#

Media server?

stiff gust
#

its a gaming/office pc

#

i wont need more than 1 tb though

little osprey
#

Hmm

#

$125 for 1tb storage, case, and psu is a stretch

fossil cypress
#

Im gonna build my first pc and am planning on 16 gigs, but Ive noticed alot of pairs for 32 gigs are only afound 40 bucks more. I plan on doing editing n stuff, should I bump up my ram, even if its not gonna be completely used by my cpu and gpu?

little osprey
#

if you do 1tb hard drive for OS your computer is going to run really slow

little osprey
#

Which kit were you thinking of getting?

fossil cypress
#

whatevers on sale at the time, not rgb cause thats extra and im not a fan of it

#

my budget is 500 and I have a list set up for easy upgrades when crypto crashes

little osprey
#

can you send your list?

fossil cypress
#

yeah sure

little osprey
#

not that

fossil cypress
#

sorry lol

#

everything empty I already have

little osprey
#

All good

#

You can enter parts and mark as purchased, you know

fossil cypress
#

Oh

little osprey
#

so your budget for the list is $500 or the whole pc?

fossil cypress
#

Thats the plan

little osprey
#

Which

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just the items on the list = 500 usd

#

or the whole pc is 500 usd

fossil cypress
#

Whole pc for 500

#

I can also take some parts from my uncle who has spares. I just cant garuntee ill end up with anything good

little osprey
#

Lmao

#

so whats the total of the stuff you already bought? so i can see how much wiggle room there is for the list

#

it does help if you could resend with the parts you have marked as purchased, for future reference

fossil cypress
#

oh the stuff I have is stuff Im not adding to the total, its just random stuff i have lying around

little osprey
#

Ah

fossil cypress
#

Im going ultra budget

little osprey
#

Got it

fossil cypress
#

Im wondering if I should stay with 16 gigs and get a 6 core processer instead

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Cause that would probably end up helping more in the long run, and integrated graphics added on shouldnt take more than 16 gigs under most work loads, or am I completely off

little osprey
#

Your idea kinda makes sense

#

what i would do is

#

get the best stuff possible with $500 then wait for a dedicated gpu

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Because then when you can get an actual gpu your system wont need to be upgraded to take advantage of the new gpu

little osprey
#

getting 32gb ram does not make sense in a $500 build

fossil cypress
#

Thats fair. I want to get the system working once I get everything together. Integrated graphics is fine for me, and depending on the cryto market to crash wont happen for a few years. Im not paying 400 for a 1060ti.

little osprey
#

Smart

fossil cypress
#

If I do want to upgrade my cpu, what should I get? im thinking a 15 9400 cause 6 core would be nice, but idk enough about the market

little osprey
#

9400 is fine (i have 9400f) but by the time you get a gpu its gonna be like 4 gens old

#

12th gen intel budget options are coming early 2022

#

so it will hit 3 gens behind pretty soon

fossil cypress
#

yeahh

little osprey
#

Damn.

#

$499.02

fossil cypress
#

thats barely on budget, but I might go for it

#

I already have a cpu cooler from my uncle so id save a bit there

little osprey
#

which?

#

if you know

fossil cypress
#

i have zero Idea lol

little osprey
#

it might not fit this cpu bracket which is why im asking

fossil cypress
#

Ill have too check. I can always move stuff around too.

little osprey
#

I meant the CPU cooler could potentially not be compatible with the CPU choice

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like its not the right fit

fossil cypress
#

I dont have to get a certain cpu cause nothing is purchased yet

little osprey
#

Well theres not many options for a modern budget CPU

#

11400 is kind of a no-brainer in todays world

fossil cypress
#

what about on the amd side

little osprey
#

AMD and budget dont go together

#

unless you get a super outdated cpu

fossil cypress
#

Ive heard about that, is it worth it to buy a used cpu

little osprey
#

Ehhh

#

In some cases yes

fluid pier
#

If i did pick up a new drive, and the sn550 wasnt available to me, which would be the go to, a sn750, or 970 evo plus ssd, both at 1tb

little osprey
#

but some used CPUs have been overclocked (even though the seller will pretend they didnt) and wont be able to boost as much as they should anymore

fossil cypress
#

I might just raise it to a i5 10400 and buy other stuff on sale. I scroll through the newegg sale list almost daily

little osprey
fluid pier
#

Is it worth a 30$ price jump?

#

Iyo

fossil cypress
little osprey
fluid pier
#

Would the difference be noticable in most situations?

little osprey
#

Probably not honestly

fossil cypress
#

thanks for your help cameron. I'll take your advice.

fluid pier
#

I would assume i’d only notice it when transferring my files from my old drive to the new onw

stoic island
#

970evo plus a bit wacky unless you have a real use

little osprey
fluid pier
#

I was thinking of pulling towards the 750

little osprey
#

Seems like a better decision

#

samsung tends to be priced higher

#

If you want to save some money you could go MP33

#

not sure how the MP33's speeds hold up to the SN750 or 970 evo plus

stoic island
#

P31 has a really good sale atm

fluid pier
#

The way i relate the difference in performance on drives is like the difference between 2k and 4k to the naked eye, if that makes sense

stoic island
#

107$ for p31 1tb is really good

fluid pier
#

Link?

stoic island
#

Lemme grab link

little osprey
#

seq is pretty stupid for the ordinary pc user

#

what you want to look at is random

fluid pier
#

Thats what i’ve been told

stoic island
little osprey
#

sequential tests are for one huge file, while random is more like a video game where theres hundreds of files coming into play to bring your game to life

fluid pier
#

So the p31 over either drive i listed?

little osprey
#

Yes

#

Usually i dont recommend p31 because it's quite pricey at times

fluid pier
#

Awesome, and it’s 50 cheaper than the 970

stoic island
#

Relatively simple info, 980 pro is rated for 7000mb/s seq read, p31 is rated for 3500mb/s seq read, and loads slightly faster

little osprey
#

but since there is a sale id say go for it

stoic island
little osprey
#

(i am more of a budget person)

stoic island
#

Anyways, game loading is simple chart for something you might actually do

#

Ofc, but yea

fluid pier
#

That coupon only brought the price down after tax to 131

#

121*

#

114 before tax

stoic island
#

Tax wacky

#

Thought it was 107, oh well

fluid pier
#

Tax do be wacky

stoic island
#

Still a good deal

fluid pier
#

Buuuuuut, i do have a 50$ amazon giftcard in my acct rn

desert gulch
fluid pier
#

So its cash money time

desert gulch
#

It was a amazon deal of the day, used to have no coupon

stoic island
#

Ah

desert gulch
#

But that was yesterday only

#

So yeah

stoic island
#

Still good deal

desert gulch
#

Prolly to welcome the 2tb capacity

marsh kiln
#

What is a good backup power bank for a computer and two monitors to run on for awhile?

#

Like 2 or 3 hours

stoic island
#

Ups

marsh kiln
#

Yep

little osprey
#

think they were asking what model

#

i think amazon basics has one but idk if thats usable for a pc

marsh kiln
#

Yea I knew what their called just would like suggestions because where I live I loose power or have power bumps almost anytime we have a storm

little osprey
#

Im not too familiar with these (i am also looking for a UPS for my rig)

#

our neighborhood has a sub-station that receives power from a different line so if the main one goes down we should still have power

jagged ember
#

I'd say cyberpower

#

But they're not meant to run your pc for 2 hours on end

#

Moreso just to stop you from losing your work

little osprey
#

ye

jagged ember
#

For that, you'd probably want a generator

little osprey
#

or a laptop

#

lol

jagged ember
#

Like jackery or smth

fluid pier
#

Just placed my order, appreciate the assistance as usual gents.

little osprey
jagged ember
#

My ups that's 350va over what I need will only run my pc around 21mins

restive halo
#

Ok I got it on but the graphics cards light is on but fans are not

#

Monitor says no signal

little osprey
#

fans dont need to spin

#

not 100% sure but mine dont spin sometimes on boot

restive halo
#

Anyone have Ideas?

#

The screen is not coming on at all there is no signal coming from the graphics card

#

R5 3600 and 5600xt

#

Oh 1 sec

#

Let me check

#

Maybe the gpu is not seated? That would explain the lights being powered from the psu?

marble hedge
#

Define "enough storage"

#

Is there a happy number?

restive halo
#

Checking now

marble hedge
#

Hobby piece?

#

Gaming

#

I have a 4tb boot drive

#

I have over 1.3tb of games

#

And will be getting more

#

With how big games are getting

#

Rather not

#

I like having access

#

See im kinda at the apex of my build. Getting a better cpu and mobo is a future thing

#

128gb 3200hz low cl ram

#

I'm out of reasonable upgrades

#

....

#

Not that this machine was reasonable

#

Yes uta overkill

#

Just cuz I was bored

#

I had 64

#

The wife gets my old parts lol

#

10700k, 1tb boot with 2tb ssd, 2080ti, 64gb ram

restive halo
#

Should I hit the nios button on the gpu?

#

Bios

#

Switch rather

marble hedge
#

For?

restive halo
#

5600xt

marble hedge
#

Flip it

restive halo
#

Flip the switch?

#

What does it do

#

Sapphire Pulse

#

Sapphire Pulse

#

What should I do

#

Yeah

#

The top gpu slot says crossfire. Can I put it in the bottom slot instead?

#

Should be fine right

formal girder
#

isnt crossfire just having the ability to run dual amd cards tho?

#

just amds version of sli

wanton flicker
#

someone check that?

#

@ me to tell me if its good

worn wave
#

Looks great!

stoic island
#

lmao

marsh kiln
#

1060 not bad

stoic island
#

@restive haloreseat ram and try booting with only 1 stick in slot 2

#

then reset cmos if no boot

flint sapphire
restive halo
#

I think I got it

peak ginkgo
#

I'm sure it's a white case with RGB fans

restive halo
#

It's for my wife

#

How do I make sure the nvme is my boot drive

peak ginkgo
restive halo
bitter igloo
#

Damn

restive halo
bitter igloo
#

That’s what I imagine when I was building my pc but looks nothing like it

restive halo
peak ginkgo
bitter igloo
restive halo
bitter igloo
restive halo
bitter igloo
#

I don’t have pictures privileges

restive halo
bitter igloo
#

Ye

#

My setup looks nice but my pc needs a upgrade

bitter igloo
#

I wanna build a mining pc, could someone help me out with parts

little osprey
#

budget?

#

are you only going to mine with it

bitter igloo
#

And gaming

#

Budget.. hmm

#

All I want is to get the money back in a month

obsidian wigeon
#

nope

bitter igloo
#

Not possible?

obsidian wigeon
#

Mining won't get your investment back in a month tbh

#

It's more of a long term thing

bitter igloo
#

Oh

#

So a year

obsidian wigeon
#

Like a year or more

bitter igloo
#

Dang

#

Hmm

obsidian wigeon
#

Half a year maybe if the price for parts is right

bitter igloo
#

Ah

obsidian wigeon
#

And that they're good at mining with high efficiency

#

The best way to get your investment returned in a month is investing in crypto, but it's volatile so it could take longer

bitter igloo
#

Oh

obsidian wigeon
#

I suggest investing before mining ngl

#

But be careful, do your research

#

It's volatile so it could go down or up in a matter of hours

bitter igloo
#

Yea I do a lot of stock research but I don’t know how to research coins

bitter igloo
# little osprey budget?

I have a few parts

Mother board- MSI B450-A pro
Gpu Ryzen 5 2600
16GB ram Ballistix
be quite 600 watts
Rx570
Then I can add 1k 2k if I have too

spark moat
#

should i get a gaming laptop or a prebuilt gaming desktop

#

as my first gaming setup, im using it for school, gaming, and mulltitasking and move around a lot

lyric thistle
#

I think I would prefer a lower power laptop for class but

#

if you're not actually in a classroom I guess it doesn't matter

spark moat
#

i have a ipad for school, but i move between my house and my grandmas house a lot so i bring my ps4 back and fourth

lyric thistle
#

oof

#

ps4s are small enough at least

#

could even order a second cable and controller and just bring the console lol

violet crown
#

Will corsair molex cables work with enermax revolution D.f 850w

worn wave
#

No

#

Never mix cables from different power supplies

lyric thistle
#

oof

#

mixing cables

#

insta death

bitter igloo
#

I wanna build a mining pc, could someone help me out with parts?

I have a few parts from my current pc

Mother board- MSI B450-A pro
Gpu Ryzen 5 2600
16GB ram Ballistix
be quite 600 watts
Rx570
Then I can add 1k or 2k if I have too

lyric thistle
#

isn't this the third time you asked?

bitter igloo
#

Yea and it’s the third time I didn’t get an answer

lyric thistle
#

fair

stoic island
#

thing with mining pc is that everything doesn't matter, other than being able to fit gpus

lyric thistle
#

I think if you got like a second 570 you could get going better

#

maybe a third even

bitter igloo
stoic island
#

?

lyric thistle
#

underclock core and overclock vram I think

stoic island
#

doesn't really matter other than just pcie bifurcation and fitting more gpus

#

you can prob mine on a 3080 off pcie 3.0x4

lyric thistle
#

idk I don't drill for oil thinkies

bitter igloo
#

Should I just make a whole rig and throw it in my garage?

stoic island
#

you could

#

wherever you have access to electricity and don't mind having more heat

bitter igloo
#

But that is valuable garage space

lyric thistle
#

people regularly use 1x slots for mining

stoic island
#

prob would work too

#

I mean, to start off, all you need is for the board to be able to do like 8+8

#

and you can just have risers

bitter igloo
#

Idk what any of that means

#

Lmao

stoic island
#

don't need crossfire or sli because you're not using it

bitter igloo
#

Oh

#

What do the gpus connect to?

stoic island
#

for mining, most commonly just risers then mobo

bitter igloo
#

Ah

violet crown
#

Where is a molex cable for the enermax rev.

bitter igloo
#

Is there a list of stuff I could just go off of ?

stoic island
#

prob in the box

#

molex not too common nowadays tho

worn wave
stoic island
bitter igloo
#

Ok

stoic island
#

but depends on how many cards you're planning on using in the end tbh

#

if you're just gonna use 2 cards, 2 x16 slots is all you need

#

but if you're gonna use more, good to look into it more

#

@bitter igloo as a side note, 570 4gb will prob be more profitable mining rvn, but 570 8gb will prob be more profitable mining eth

#

if you end up using nicehash, not a problem, but if you want to use like t-rex miner, gotta keep it in mind

bitter igloo
#

Ok, I was using salad to mine for the past 2 days but I was making .002 cents every 15 minutes

stoic island
#

salad is good

#

but don't look at 15min

#

look at daily

#

day to day variability for example

#

you could just get lucky with a day, or unlucky with a day

bitter igloo
#

I was getting 1$ daily but I had 86c temps and 120 w so I turned it down then tested and my earnings divided by 4

stoic island
#

should prob oc mem and get the clocks down

#

get voltage down too

bitter igloo
#

I did now it’s 75c and 106 w

undone cliff
#

my cpu is getting up to 60 celcius and then my cpu cooler starts taking off and then its cool again

#

but it should not get up to that temp

#

idk whats wrong

bitter igloo
#

I also have bad airflow, 3 intake 1 out

stoic island
#

not bad

#

but you gotta mess more with gpu settings

bitter igloo
#

Yea

stoic island
#

what I'm doing is like 65% power limit, running at like .85v, core clocks like 400mhz below base, memory is oced 1200mhz over stock, kinda thing

#

It's like 95% of the hash rate of the card at stock, except at less than 65% of the power

#

heck, it might even be higher hash rate than stock, too lazy to check

bitter igloo
#

Same

#

I could say my stuff but already turned pc off

stoic island
#

anyways

#

mess around with the settings

#

and wait for longer before coming to a conclusion of how well it's doing

#

(the "earnings divided by 4" part was concerning)

bitter igloo
#

Yea it’s annoying

hearty oracle
#

Hey got a question regarding dram frequency in bios.... Its showing 2133mhz and my ram should be capable of 4000mhz... I activated a-xmp profile one. But doesnt change current frequency.

Newer here. So should current frequency change or does it not change unless under load?

hearty oracle
#

B550m pro-vdh wifi. And amd ryzen 5 5600g

obsidian wigeon
#

hmn

#

well try booting into windows

#

and see if it displays ram speed correctly

hearty oracle
#

It doesn't. 2133mhz there... đŸ˜©

worn wave
#

What RAM?

#

Is it Trident Z?

hearty oracle
#

G.skill

frank stirrup
hearty oracle
#

Ripjaws

frank stirrup
#

Unless exceptional bin

#

Or fclk desyced

#

Return and get a 3600c16 kit

#

Or set values manually in the ram oc section

hearty oracle
#

Well it should be able to hit at least 3200 i think. But even when i put dram frequency from auto to 4000 doesnt change anything

obsidian wigeon
#

Rawr

hearty oracle
#

Dang xD

obsidian wigeon
#

5000G could run 4000 with no issue

#

They're different than the non G 5000 ones lel

frank stirrup
obsidian wigeon
#

So this is definitely weird

frank stirrup
obsidian wigeon
#

I think it wasn't desynced

#

They could legit run at those speed

frank stirrup
#

Source?

obsidian wigeon
#

The Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 7 5700G performance and benchmarks are well known already but in this video we discuss the effect of memory speeds and latencies on IGP gaming performance. What is the best memory for Ryzen 5600G and 5700G? Should you look for higher speed memory for the best performance or latencies? Or should you just save some m...

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#

this shows how they could run 4000 just fine

#

cause the igpu benefits from it too

hearty oracle
#

Maybe im missing a setting somewhere. 2133 is what its sticking.

hearty oracle
#

A-xmp1 profile 1 enabled. On auto now. Tested changing it to ddr4-4000 and nothing happened

frank stirrup
#

get back into bios

hearty oracle
#

Change to 4000?

frank stirrup
#

XMP

#

Not manually

obsidian wigeon
#

might have to reset cmos

#

or update bios

frank stirrup
#

Bios update maybe

lament tulip
#

Any suggestions on 16 gigs ddr4 ram for less than $80 USD?

frank stirrup
lament tulip
#

@frank stirrup it's going to be going in with a 3600 and an MSI tomahawk max

frank stirrup
lament tulip
#

Oh right, I forgot crucial ram exists.

#

Thanks mate

obsidian wigeon
bitter igloo
#

What’s a good price for a rtx 3070

frank stirrup
bitter igloo
#

Ok

bitter igloo
frank stirrup
#

idk depends on which 3070 is in stock

bitter igloo
#

Ah

keen plover
#

can anyone explain why my amd pc 5600xt 2700x runs horribly

#

fortnite literally freezing for full seconds

#

games crashing with amd giving driver timeout error

potent portal
#

Driver timeout error usually means you need to DDU the graphics drivers

#

Or your overclock is crashing

#

If you're having trouble uninstalling, removing or deleting your old video card drivers or having trouble installing drivers for a new graphics card? Then DDU may be able to help. This video is a step by step tutorial showing where to download Display Driver Uninstaller, how to install it to your PC and how to use DDU to uninstall your old Dis...

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hearty oracle
potent portal
#

You had the 5600G and 4000 speed memory right? Try enabling XMP now, save it, and go back into bios.

analog pulsar
#

I did take my OC off so now it's time to test

#

If you download optinal you will probably have crashes

#

Recommend driver is the way to go

hearty oracle
analog pulsar
#

Wait can amd run 4000

potent portal
#

The new G chips can

analog pulsar
#

Ah

potent portal
#

Some X can too if you're lucky

#

Mine does but not 100% stable

analog pulsar
#

Yea I don't know much about 4000 just heard it might not run it and most people said to just stick with 3600

hearty oracle
#

These settings right?

potent portal
#

That looks right so far. Try manually setting fclk to 2000.

#

Then boot into windows and run zentimings

analog pulsar
#

I currently have 3000 of my own ram

potent portal
#

3000 is kinda weak. It'll bottleneck some games.

analog pulsar
#

Lol

potent portal
#

You can try to overclock it

analog pulsar
#

I could it's 3000 C16

#

But I'm getting a whole pc upgrade soon

potent portal
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Ew that's not likely to be a good chip. Might still do 3200 c16 though.

analog pulsar
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Hehe

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Idk much about OC but ik XMP and some settings in bios

lyric thistle
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you have an 8700k right