#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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?

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1tb hard drives can be found for $20

worn wave
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A used 1tb HDD is not worth $100

earnest olive
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and considering this is in a 10 year old system

worn wave
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Is this system a Dell optiplex?

earnest olive
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it's probably not that far from failing

iron wind
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Hold up

earnest olive
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even 1tb nvme ssds can be had for less than $100 lmao

iron wind
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Lemme get the link

potent portal
worn wave
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Wdym?

iron wind
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Ok. Where can I send the link

potent portal
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Only optiplex I know is dell

worn wave
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Here

earnest olive
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we don't need to see it

worn wave
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Im curious

earnest olive
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you should not look at a pc like this for $370

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lmao

worn wave
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It's awful and you should not buy it.

earnest olive
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$100 tops

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i'm sticking with it

iron wind
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Ok ok.

potent portal
worn wave
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Oh

earnest olive
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it has a processor that was considered bottom of the barrel over 10 years ago

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no ssd

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a graphics card designed for office pcs that loses to modern integrated graphics

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it shouldn't be hard to build a pc that's 6-7x as powerful for $370

quaint swan
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Does anyone know if bots get all the gpus when they’re in stock on Best Buy

obsidian wigeon
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It's not always bots

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It's people

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Lots just wants a gpu at this day

potent portal
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Best buy has been doing in store drops lately too

obsidian wigeon
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^

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They're in huge demand so ya

jagged ember
worn wave
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Most drops are in store I do believe for Best Buy

quaint swan
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How can I make sure I get a gpu when its in stock?

obsidian wigeon
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Go to your local best buy I suppose

potent portal
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If you're near microcenter they have some in stock right now at most branches, mostly the expensive models but still...

quaint swan
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Sold out at my local one. Is there a way to get an email when they’re in stock?

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Well Best Buy sells 3060 ti for $399

potent portal
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Each MC does it differently, you can ask

potent portal
quaint swan
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So?

potent portal
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Good luck getting that, it's literally the most desirable model because lower price

echo vale
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the way my microcenter did it is they have a code u pinned the the front of the store u scan the qr code with ur phone camera and it puts u on a waiting list it randomizes ur position and they call everyone to the front who got a text saying theyve been selected to receive a voucher and usually its one or 2 cards

earnest olive
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would run circles around that i3-2120 + gt 710 + no ssd

echo vale
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the only thing is im pretty sure theyre getting mostly 3080tis and 3060tis cause when i was there 2 days after a drop occured they had remnants of 3080ti shipments

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lol

potent portal
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Circles? It's running whole laps around the 2120/710

earnest olive
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practically achieving liftoff

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i didn't even put dealhunter prices on the used stuff

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those are just pretty normal prices

iron wind
earnest olive
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case comes with 2

iron wind
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Oh ok

clever eagle
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yes

wispy matrix
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just give us a budget and amd or intel

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prebuilt or built

vague oracle
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Why specifically the i7 10th gen?

wispy matrix
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thats what i was gonna say

vague oracle
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What’re you going to be using it for?

potent portal
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For around 2k you can do buildredux and get a 5600X/3070 system

wispy matrix
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i would go with amd but its up to you

vague oracle
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Rendering personally I’d go ryzen and nvidia

vague oracle
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For rendering I’d go for the 5900x

potent portal
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Ryzen 5000 are the top dogs right now in almost everything

vague oracle
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5950x if you really need the 16 cores but I doubt you do

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I have a 5900x in my CAD/ rendering and it’s handled everything I threw at it

wispy matrix
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amd is also made for gaming

vague oracle
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Ehhh

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Not sure where you heard that

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Don’t bother with build redux

potent portal
vague oracle
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This doesn’t seem to be that bad

potent portal
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Yeah maybe nzxt-bld instead of buildredux

vague oracle
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Oh god not NZXT BLD

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Even higher markup than build redux

potent portal
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Are they? It's usually one or the other is good

desert gulch
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Kracken + h510 🤢

vague oracle
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With a 5600x

desert gulch
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Bruh lol

vague oracle
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These are your only AMD cpu options

earnest olive
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custom building isn't that bad anymore that prebuilts would be cheaper

potent portal
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Yeah better to do custom right now for sure but only if you can get a GPU

earnest olive
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like if you have 2k to spend on a 3070 prebuilt you could definitely pick up a 3070Ti for 900 off of r/hws and end up below 2k total build cost

vague oracle
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Sips what do you think of that Asus prebuilt I sent?

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Any good?

earnest olive
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that 3 heatpipe cooler and poor airflow case

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prepare for 5800x to become chernobyl recreation

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not a fan of the blower 3070 either

vague oracle
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Oh shoot I didn’t see that 3 heat pipe cooler

earnest olive
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though i suppose blower might be better in such a bad looking case

vague oracle
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It’s a blower 3070?

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Forgot those existed

earnest olive
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looks like it to me

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i don't see an axial fan there

vague oracle
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Yeah looks like a blower

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Nah it’s passive kekw

earnest olive
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$1955 + tax is a very premium price

potent portal
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They usually slap whatever model they can get into those prebuilts, not always the one pictured

desert gulch
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Ye

earnest olive
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my city has pretty low sales tax and that would total out to 2126.06

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buying a prebuilt for the cheaper gpu is dead imo

potent portal
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If you're rendering you probably want 32gb

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11700 is comparable to the 5800X, worse than the 5800X in some cases

earnest olive
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we're back to the point where buying a prebuilt is for buying a prebuilt

potent portal
earnest olive
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fair

wispy matrix
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i was on clx gaming and this is what i found lmao

potent portal
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They're delusional if they think that'll sell

wispy matrix
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yeah

earnest olive
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the sad part is it probably will

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they just gonna find someone uninformed enough

wispy matrix
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most likely

earnest olive
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i ran 3070 and 3080 both 100% load on a 650w

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it was fine

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yall overestimate psu needs

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still cheaper and better than the prebuilt

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and thats overpaying for a 5800x

potent portal
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If it's a decent quality unit sure, it's fine. It's the 3080 and up that have transient load issues where higher power is more helpful.

earnest olive
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B tier

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seasonic core gm

potent portal
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Good 'nuf

earnest olive
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started mining on it not realizing that afterburner decided not to apply settings

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so they were both running full blast stock wattage

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for 20 mins

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r/hardwareswap

potent portal
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20 minutes isn't enough to trigger OTP if it was too much power for the fan to handle'

earnest olive
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wont take that long to find one

inland yarrow
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Would yall say that a dell xps pc is a good gaming pc?

potent portal
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NO

earnest olive
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everything dell is bad

potent portal
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Even Alienware, which is Dell

inland yarrow
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Damn

earnest olive
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except maybe their monitors

vague oracle
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The fact that I almost bought an Alienware just to rip a 3090 out of makes me cringe

earnest olive
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😳

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yumy green pcb 3090

inland yarrow
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Whats a $1000 pc yall would recommend?

potent portal
vague oracle
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I ended up buying an NZXT prebuilt for 3k and ripped the 3090 out of it

potent portal
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It didn't overheat or anything once it was removed from the hotbox it came in

vague oracle
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Woah

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Oh yeahhh that guy on tiktok

potent portal
inland yarrow
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I dont feel comfortable building one

potent portal
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Yeah ABS is a good enough brand

inland yarrow
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Abs doesnt have a gaming pc $1000 and under

potent portal
earnest olive
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feel like he could point at a rock and that statement would still be valid

potent portal
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Look local on craigslist, facebook market, etc, or check r/hardwareswap in the morning

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If you're near a microcenter you could pretty easily get something like a 6700XT (3070 equivalent) for like $700

earnest olive
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keep looking on r/hws i see a lot around 900

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you just have to be fast

potent portal
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You can ask them when their next shipment is, if you're lucky they'll tell you or put you on a notification list

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Each one restocks different days but I've commonly seen Tuesday and Friday

potent portal
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Puts $499 in title
Says in description it's $1500
thinkies

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Looks legit at least, I'd offer like $1200 and see if he'll meet in the middle at $1300 or so

echo vale
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does anyone know where to buy thermal pads to replace the putty ones on a 3080ti?

echo vale
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is it just called thermal pads?

potent portal
echo vale
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awesome thank you so much

potent portal
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You want pads with a fairly high W/mK rating but you don't need to spend $100 on them, 12W is about the sweet spot for me

echo vale
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kk

earnest olive
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i've tested both gelid gp-extreme and thermalright odyssey

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both are good

delicate plume
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MSI MPG Series A750GF Power Supply?

fossil cedar
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Good power supply

little osprey
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Hello guys do i need an anti static shock bracelet or do I build in certain places/with certain clothes on

jagged ember
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Just plug in the psu

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And touch metal parts of it for destaticing

fossil cedar
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^just plug your psu into a socket and touch every so often if you're worried but parts are pretty static resistant these days so i wouldn't worry hugely

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Just don't build it on a carpet

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If you have to build it in a room with carpet wear shoes and put it on a table

jagged ember
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Oh yeah I should have said no carpets around if possible

austere condor
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actually have a question for something i cant figure out
has anyone set up RGB control on an asrock motherboard?
the polychrome software doesnt work
how do i control the 5v header?
it wont even launch the program unless you have a asrock graphics card or asrock USB RGB controller
i just want to control the 5v header thats built into the motherboard

fossil cedar
austere condor
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i figured it out

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you have to go to the specific motherboard model drivers page

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and download THAT version of the RGB software

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not the generic one they post on the main page to download

fossil cedar
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Lol

earnest olive
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@austere condor even better use OpenRGB

austere condor
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i figured it out

earnest olive
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polychrome takes very long to start up

austere condor
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you have to go to the specific motherboard model drivers page
and download THAT version of the RGB software
not the generic one they post on the main page to download

earnest olive
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using an asrock board in my personal rig

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polychrome was working but I ditched it for openrgb

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neither one wants to control my ram though

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everything else is dandy

uncut pelican
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Opinions?

fossil cedar
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Like all of that needs to be changed

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Budget of 500?

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@uncut pelican does the buid need wifi?

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Cooler can be removed from the list and added later if needed

quaint swan
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MAINGEAR

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founder's Edition AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (6 Cores/12 Threads) AMD Wraith Air Cooler MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Motherboard 16GB HyperX Fury RGB DDR4 3600MHz Memory (2x8GB) 512GB Intel 660p M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB Seagate HDD 500W EVGA Power Supply Windows 10 Home RGB Lighting Kit & Rear RGB Fan Appearance may be different than shown

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Could someone explain why this has such good specs for $1699?

obsidian wigeon
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I dunno about their quality so idk

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Just look at newegg with abs systems tbh

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They got a 3070 for 1499

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That psu choice is not good

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It could be a crappy evga psu

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Even one that burns down, who knows. The N1 is known as fire hazard

quaint swan
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Is an i5 even that good with a 3070?

obsidian wigeon
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it's enough lol

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10400 ain't slow

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it's like a 3600

quaint swan
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Ryzen 5?

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Idk much about cpus

obsidian wigeon
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that 5600x vybe thing isn't safe to use

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the PSU isn't enough for the gpu

quaint swan
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Yeah it would need 650W 80 plus gold

obsidian wigeon
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500w on a 3060Ti, eehhh

icy blaze
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Whats the best Newegg pc for under 1800 AU?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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ah good

fossil cedar
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Cpu isn't as good but rest is better

quaint swan
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Ok I was just looking at prebuilts because I was feeling lazy

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I’m still probably building one myself

fossil cedar
icy blaze
fossil cedar
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Yeah that's way better

quaint swan
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Will a 1660 super work with i9-10850k and is it easier to get than a 3060 ti FE? (Probably is)

little osprey
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are prebuilts better than building atm?

little osprey
little osprey
fossil cedar
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Look at 3060s or 3070s

peak ginkgo
formal girder
fossil cedar
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I would return the ssd for starters

formal girder
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they wanted to keep it cause it pretty much gifted to them as a birthday gift for their old prebuilt

fossil cedar
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Ehh okay

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But the have 500$ for the non purchased parts?

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@formal girder do they want micro atx?

formal girder
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yeah

fossil cedar
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Aight

formal girder
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small small desk

fossil cedar
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@formal girder they want wifi?

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Or any other features?

formal girder
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they run ethernet

fossil cedar
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Aight

peak ginkgo
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I like this build

formal girder
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ok thanks ill send them the list and let them buy it cause when i go see them again they will have me build it

formal girder
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will do

fossil cedar
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I am not keen on the ssd but yeah rest is nice

formal girder
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i said the same to her

fossil cedar
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I mean it's not gonna be baddd

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Like if it was 40$ then it would be reasonable but ye

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Can get an mp33 for that

formal girder
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yeah but it was a gift so cant complain for a free ssd

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i just assumed the price on the price list for the ssd

fossil cedar
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True

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Ahh

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It probs is 50$ tbf

formal girder
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ive seen that at my staples for like $60 and i just stood there in disgust looking at the price

fossil cedar
formal girder
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yeah i mainly go there to do pickups for friends when they need switches or adapters

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
little osprey
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Wait@oh yeah i forgot lmao ok thx

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But u guys have any good 1k or lower pc part picker list?

fossil cedar
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Ehh lemme see

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@little osprey 1k usd? You need wifi etc?

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3060 but 3060 ti/3070/6700xt if you're super lucky

little osprey
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O tysm

fossil cedar
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It kinda relies on a lotta luck tho

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And just as good as the 1k prebuilt

fossil cedar
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Would get the cooler if possible

uncut pelican
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It's obviously very budget, its for my mom to do calls and her work

fossil cedar
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Well that will be a beautiful office machine

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Could probs save on psu if not adding a graphics card

zealous cedar
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My dumb ass forgot gravity existed so I applied thermal paste while the pc was standing

desert gulch
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If tight budget

uncut pelican
desert gulch
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Also a rly cheap b460 and wifi adapter may be easier

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Its not like having faster ram will really help in office setting

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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You can find a z590 for the same price bro

fossil cedar
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huh?

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a crappy asrock one

desert gulch
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Yeah but it's still cheaper

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I'd get the Mobo on this list

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Then you gotta buy a wifi adapter

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One on my list has one included

fossil cedar
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ohh actually the mobo you used ye

uncut pelican
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Ebic

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Also you can save like 5 bucks by going mp33 if needed

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Maybe

little osprey
neat helm
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Dhhdbfir

desert gulch
sand falcon
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The bigger hmm

desert gulch
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I just suggested the cheapest b560 with wifi lol

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Was actually cheaper than crap b560 + wifi adapter

sand falcon
sand falcon
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Is that price before or after VAT?

neat helm
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Idk but its not a big difference

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Is vibox trusted

little osprey
desert gulch
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Forgot the PS5 ran at 30fps

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My bad

little osprey
sand falcon
desert gulch
neat helm
desert gulch
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With an igpu build, it won't help at all to get a cx550

little osprey
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i’d go with the cx 550w, would be a lot better for future upgrades

desert gulch
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It's literally a cheap office build

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We're trying to be as cheap as possible here

sand falcon
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I've never heard of it, not feeling too great about the picture

little osprey
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office building doesn’t really need a 10400. a used 10100 would suffice even.

neat helm
little osprey
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and might as well just go dirt cheap on the B560 boards, unless ur tryna mess with 10400 power limits…

sand falcon
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Do you need 32GB of ram?

desert gulch
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I suggested 10105 but pato said no

fossil cedar
sand falcon
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It seems to be a competitive price for the UK, but the build quality doesn't look promising

neat helm
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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1 sec

desert gulch
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10900f and 3070?

sand falcon
fossil cedar
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it looks aight but id check scan and box for their builds

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and newegg

sand falcon
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No clue what the upgrades will run

desert gulch
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The Amazon one may have a stock cooler

sand falcon
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Maybe 300 pounds?

desert gulch
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Altho it may just be a stock image

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Since it has a GTX card in it

peak ginkgo
desert gulch
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Mhmm

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Never heard of them

peak ginkgo
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The ABS one is better, imo

fossil cedar
sand falcon
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reviews mention loose components and cables

peak ginkgo
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Talk about QC or lack of

desert gulch
sand falcon
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QC "if it posts it's good, right?"

desert gulch
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It it lights up it's good

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No need to post

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Too much work

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Only RGB matters

peak ginkgo
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Turn on, verify power light, unplug and package

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No customer support either, I'm sure

desert gulch
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Probably

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Only Amazon 30 day thing

stoic island
little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Wasn't on purpose

little osprey
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budget is sub 500?

desert gulch
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Since a gpu prolly will never go in that thing

little osprey
desert gulch
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Psu is running at close to half capacity full load on ours

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PSU is most efficient at half ish load

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In general

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
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no point in spending more on SN550 when mp33 is cheaper no?

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Still a perf difference

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Mp33 to sn550

fossil cedar
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Sn550 perf diff

desert gulch
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Bigger psu no perf difference

fossil cedar
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Noticeable one at that

desert gulch
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Yeah

little osprey
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would be better for upgradabulity id say

fossil cedar
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But it's an office pc for mom

desert gulch
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Yeah

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We ain't upgrading this thing

little osprey
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Lol

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10400 seems overkill for office pc..

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10100 or 10105 minimum

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10400 is good

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dont need much more than that

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used 10100 would save a lot of money tbf

fossil cedar
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30$

little osprey
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used

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i havent seen many used 10100s

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maybe its because i'm not looking for them

fossil cedar
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Well you could say that about almost every used part

little osprey
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I havent seen many used patos around

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virginity probably

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😳

fossil cedar
little osprey
jovial radish
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so I'm rebuilding a system and I've got a "difficult" CPU cooler

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it leaves almost zero room for one or two motherboard mounting points

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think I should install it last?

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I mean I could partially install it before it's in the case

desert gulch
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Yeah install it last

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You should be able to install it's backplate and mounting hardware before installing Mobo tho, should save some time

jovial radish
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thought so, thanks

vague oracle
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Goddamnit i went down 200 points in time spy

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Also i noticed that SAM brought down my time spy scores

fossil cedar
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sam is hit and miss depending on the game soo

desert gulch
vague oracle
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nah my cpu score went down 500 points and my gpu score went up 100

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maybe i should go back to the manual OC instead of PBO when running time spy

static ravine
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How do you unlock cpu tdp?

vague oracle
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...you cant

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tdp is how much heat it gives off

desert gulch
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Like on a locked board like b560

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Wrong reply?

fossil cedar
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Yep...

fossil cedar
terse pebble
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Hi guys, I am changing my CPU and mobo. What do I need to do for my current storage with all the softwares that was installed and all other files and folders?

What will happen to the windows?

desert gulch
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Link the windows key to your Microsoft account if you havent

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Sometimes it'll get mad if you change parts otherwise

fossil cedar
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Make a backup of anything you need first tho

delicate plume
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So in

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So uhh

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I feel like my cable extensions aren’t gonna work

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Well. My cable management is so terrible and I twisted my mobo cable extension. Do u guys think it’ll work?

desert gulch
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It'll still work

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The 24 pin?

wintry tide
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what do you guys think about the B550-A Rog Strix

fossil cedar
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Nice mobo if you want white especially

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If you don't care of colour there's better options imo

earnest olive
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poop

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I chose b550 steel legend over it for a white accent board

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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well

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the main people paying extra for that board would care about aesthetics

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however asus is allergic to argb headers

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therefore it only has 1

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it also lacks front usb-c compared to the steel legend

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and it's more expensive

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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it's fine

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and that's pretty much the problem

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it doesn't offer anything more than "fine" for the price premium

delicate plume
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Yes

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I have the b550 f gaming WiFi

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Is 101ms download speed good or bad?

desert gulch
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What?

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Ms is ping

earnest olive
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download speed is not measured in ms

desert gulch
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Mbps is speed

earnest olive
delicate plume
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Oh yeah that’s what I meant

earnest olive
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jitter is also measured in ms

delicate plume
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My ms was 14

desert gulch
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Ok

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That's good

delicate plume
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Is my download speed good?

earnest olive
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speedtest ping measurement is meaningless

desert gulch
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100mbps download is good enough

earnest olive
desert gulch
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Yeah ping matters more on the games servers

earnest olive
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if it's bad you will notice 🙂

desert gulch
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Lol

delicate plume
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Ok

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This isn’t even my pc lol

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Another WiFi related question

earnest olive
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download speed usually has little to do with the pc hardware

delicate plume
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Is the b550 f gaming WiFi good?

desert gulch
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What's "good"?

delicate plume
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With the antenna?

worn wave
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lmao

desert gulch
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Still need a definition of "good"

delicate plume
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Wow.

desert gulch
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Too subjective

earnest olive
#

again

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if you have to ask if it's good or not

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it's good enough

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it supports wifi 6

delicate plume
#

Ok

earnest olive
#

probably better than your router

delicate plume
#

Yep

#

I’ll just update the drivers and hope for the best.

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At least you didn’t say it’s terrible. I’m stressing out over this pc.-.

fossil cedar
worn wave
#

What are your entire specs?

earnest olive
fossil cedar
#

Lol same

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

👁️

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when i'm bored at work i just play games

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working from home is nice

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i'll miss it

delicate plume
#

Mine?

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@worn wave

worn wave
#

Yes

delicate plume
#

R7 3700x, 1tb ssd, b550 rog strix WiFi, don’t gotta gpu, and I’m getting the msi 750w psu

fossil cedar
delicate plume
#

And a x53 aio

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There u go

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I’ll probably get a 3060 or 3060 ti if they r in stock

little osprey
#

Lol

delicate plume
#

?

clever eagle
delicate plume
#

Is a 650w psu good enough

clever eagle
#

for what system

plucky kiln
#

where do these cables go to

plucky kiln
plucky kiln
obsidian wigeon
#

The one that comes from the aio is for the pump or fans

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As for the case, idrk

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Could be front panel or something

little osprey
#

1.5k usd

#

This or 5600x?

wintry tide
#

someone make me this build in this chat. Do I need to make changes to this one guys?

little osprey
#

not too sure about that ram or nvme

desert gulch
#

Other than 970evo plus

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And maybe that monitor

#

I'd rather a m27q for that price

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Cheaper too

little osprey
#

240hz tho

desert gulch
#

And way better

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Yeah but m27q is 170

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You won't be able to see the difference in fps

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You will be able to see increase from 1080p to 1440p tho

obsidian wigeon
#

wew

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expensive ssds

desert gulch
#

P31 is justified

obsidian wigeon
#

swap that to sn550 or 980

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the 970 that is

desert gulch
#

Ye

obsidian wigeon
#

also idk why p31 seems to be secondary

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when it's faster than the samsung

wintry tide
obsidian wigeon
#

rip

wintry tide
#

lol

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might change in the near future

desert gulch
#

That's all

wintry tide
#

the one made me this build said that this ram is top tier right now

obsidian wigeon
#

mhm

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

it's expensive

desert gulch
#

Ballistix max 5100 stuff is the top tier

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800 bucks for a 16 gig kit

wintry tide
#

damn

desert gulch
#

Yeah I mean for it's price you won't find better, that's for sure

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The stuff you got

wintry tide
#

which mobo is better b550-a rog strix or aorus pro b550

quaint swan
#

I’m almost certain I won’t get the 3060 ti fe from Best Buy, so is this a relatively good price for a 3060?

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Also this:

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Or this:

earnest olive
#

no, no, and no

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all more expensive than my 3080 lol

little osprey
#

Hey guys. Just wanted to ask, if I wanted to upgrade, what should I upgrade next?

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Ryzen 5 2600x
GeForce GTX 1660 ti
Corsair Vengeance 16GB RAM
Corsair RM750 watt
Asus ROG B450-F gaming motherboard
Silicon Power 1TB SSD

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Mines decent.

wispy matrix
#

i would say either the Cpu or Gpu

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but if you upgrade the cpu you might have to change the mobo

earnest olive
#

depends on what you do with it

quaint swan
little osprey
#

Just wanna upgrade for gaming. My gpu is able to handle smoothly with like non ultra settings lol.

#

I just would like to know for future reference.

earnest olive
#

click fast

wispy matrix
#

and be ready

little osprey
#

I’ve been told once, to upgrade either GPU or Mobo just wanted better experienced people opinion

earnest olive
#

it's a pretty balanced pairing so you'd be looking at upgrading both

desert gulch
#

It's been a long time since I've heard of someone having a 2600x

#

Dont see them super often

potent portal
#

Ideally I'd say upgrade the cpu and gpu around the same time, your motherboard is fine for like a 5600X.

little osprey
#

Haha yeah. Best I could do with my budget at the time.

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I see I see

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Thanks everyone

desert gulch
#

Yeah if you decide to put that gpu up for sale you will make a ton of money in current market

potent portal
#

At least what you paid for it originally if not more, yeah

little osprey
#

I’ve seen.

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Ye

#

I searched it up and it’s up like

desert gulch
#

I'd say 500 could sell

little osprey
#

800-1k or something on Amazon one time

desert gulch
#

Mhmm

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500 on ebay or something would sell p quick

little osprey
#

It’s outrageous

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But probably

desert gulch
#

Yea

potent portal
#

And then buy a 3060 with that money, ez upgrade

desert gulch
#

Ye

little osprey
#

Never thought to sell my GPU first and then to buy a better one lol

#

Cant PCs run without a gpu

potent portal
#

Yes but it won't display anything

little osprey
#

Won’t be able to play games with it that’s for sure

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😂

#

Right right

stoic island
#

It literally won't run without a GPU or iGP

potent portal
#

Get a 5700g apu and you can use the graphics on that while you wait for a real gpu

little osprey
#

But heck. To buy a 3060

#

I’d have to upgrade everything else

potent portal
#

Not necessarily, it'll just max out your 2600X. You'll still get more performance.

little osprey
#

I see. I’m learning.

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Wanna see my pc organization

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😂

#

Jk hahaha. It’s bad

wispy matrix
potent portal
#

The mobo would be fine too, just not for anything too high power

little osprey
#

Oh heck. Alright. Thanks for the advice

#

Isn’t there like. Many different 3060s?

potent portal
#

Tons, every brand has at least 3 models lol

little osprey
#

Great god.

#

It’ll be hard to pick lol

stoic island
#

All 3060 cards have the GA106 chip tho

potent portal
#

Nah just get the one you can get, they're midrange so cooler and stuff doesn't matter as much

stoic island
#

All that changes is the PCB and shroud

little osprey
#

Well. If I can even get to sell my GPU

#

Oh wait what

#

NVIDIA EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB XC Graphics Card is only 670$

#

Thought it was in the thousands. Probably just the newer ones

potent portal
#

That's double the msrp of $330

#

I wouldn't pay more than $500 or so

little osprey
#

Oh wow they’re that cheap?

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Well at least they should be

potent portal
#

Yeah, because the next step up is the $400 3060 ti (at msrp)

#

That one can be used for mining on the side too so you can get away with paying a little extra and mining when you're idle

little osprey
#

These prices are outrageous.

potent portal
#

It's basic economics, demand is far exceeding the supply so the prices go up. There's other factors at play too.

little osprey
#

That too but still

potent portal
#

Right, it still sucks

little osprey
#

I’ll just wait Until it gets back to normal

#

It’s not like I need it now

low tinsel
#

I’m uh

#

Building a pc at the moment

#

It’s been 5 hours

#

And I’m lost and idk if I plugged in the right things

flint sapphire
low tinsel
#

It

#

Like the wires and stuff I’m looking at the manual guid and stuff like that but still kinda lost

#

Already have my AIO and motherboard and fans plugged in

#

Getting a GPU Monday

flint sapphire
#

Ah don’t worry too much about it then, it’s fairly simple the most annoying cables are just like the power and power led stuff, since usually they are all tiny separate things sadge

low tinsel
#

But I also

#

Don’t know if I put the normal cables in correctly

flint sapphire
#

Probably did

low tinsel
#

Like they went in yes but idk if it was correct place

flint sapphire
#

Usually the cables are well marked like one side will say psu and the other will say what it goes to

#

Don’t worry too much about it until you get tht gpu 👍

low tinsel
#

So if I were to turn this on to see if it works and it doesn’t turn on

#

Or parts of it does and others don’t

buoyant patrol
#

hey im new to building pc's and i was wondering if someone could help

flint sapphire
#

@fossil cedar if they are alive or any of our techs

low tinsel
#

What’s an In VDG

flint sapphire
#

It’s a rgb controller

low tinsel
#

Where would it go on a Arous elite V2 motherboard I can’t find it

flint sapphire
#

Little three pin thing

low tinsel
#

Yeah and it’s connected to something else

#

Says CH on it

#

I found it

flint sapphire
#

👍

low tinsel
#

Not the tiny part

#

But the Ch part

flint sapphire
#

Eh just look around if anyone else is around I’m a bit busy kekw

low tinsel
#

Alr

wispy matrix
echo vale
#

honestly if ur gonna make something overkill like that it definitely would be another 3090 in there for sli or watever they call it now and it would 100% be liquid cooled

#

pretty sure theyd toss in a bunch of sabrent roket 8 tb just for fun too lol

wispy matrix
#

okay ill add another

echo vale
#

boom

#

just the cpu alone is enough to raise eyebrows

wispy matrix
#

beat me by 2k

echo vale
#

i beat you by more just didnt feel like putting the effort to find the custom loops stuff for this kind of pc

wispy matrix
#

nope i win

formal girder
#

nah thats too cheap bro lol

somber knot
#

White or Black 🤔

wispy matrix
#

or

#

green

somber knot
#

Genius

wispy matrix
#

im jking black

somber knot
#

👍

earnest olive
#

we doing this again?

wispy matrix
#

yeah

#

let me start again

desert gulch
#

so expect around 20k per gpu

earnest olive
#

somehow I don't think people are scalping those

desert gulch
#

they probably are

#

gaming gpu

#

all that vram makes them very good for gaming

#

mosstly for fortnite

wispy matrix
earnest olive
#

nice thermal paste

wispy matrix
#

ik shhh

formal girder
#

gotta make sure you have plenty thermal paste

formal girder
#

but thats just a beginner build isnt it

wispy matrix
#

Wym Beginner build?

formal girder
#

is that your new beginner build? (just as a joke)

wispy matrix
#

Yeah fs

still roostBOT
#
Dave17#3275 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

somber knot
#

bruh

somber knot
clever eagle
#

this list much better price

somber knot
wispy matrix
#

@somber knot you want me to help you out

#

budget

#

please

low tinsel
#

A few rookie mistakes

#

Like the 24 pin wasn’t plugged in 🤣

#

It looks nice though everything is all good

marble whale
#

how do i download linux for the first time?

low tinsel
flint sapphire
low tinsel
#

First build, took almost 10 hours

#

Yeah it’s gonna be complete in less than a week

flint sapphire
#

Tht psu might have some issues down the road btw

#

Not sure why exactly but the ltt psu list puts its pretty far down at d tier

#

Just a heads up

wispy matrix
#

thats better Dave17

flint sapphire
#

Potentially

#

Plenty of good reviews out there though

low tinsel
#

Rip

wispy matrix
#

@earnest olive can you take a look at that list

#

i would guess budget of 1500

low tinsel
#

I’ll just have to see how it treats me

flint sapphire
#

Yeah

earnest olive
#

what am i looking at

wispy matrix
#

the list i did

#

budget of 1500

earnest olive
#

can i ban you for recommending to buy ryzen 5 2600 for $186 and gtx 1660 super for $638

#

this seems like a valid ban reason

#

this is almost the same price as my 5800x + 3080 build for what

wispy matrix
#

fine ill restart

lyric thistle
#

can't find Kratos M1 on the tier list

#

P1 and E1

earnest olive
#

i had a headache and this list made it worse

#

hyper 212

#

b450 tomahawk max

#

why

low tinsel
lyric thistle
#

yeah it's not listed in the tier list

wispy matrix
#

fine let me fix it Bleach

flint sapphire
lyric thistle
#

ignorance is bliss I guess

low tinsel
#

This thing

#

Seen it on a YT pc build and chose to get it cuz I didn’t have a psu

#

Before I knew about the Corsair ones and stuff

flint sapphire
#

Gamdias | Astrape E1 / M1 (Bronze/White) - Helios E1 White - Kratos E1

#

D tier

flint sapphire
lyric thistle
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy matrix
#

i give up Bleach you can take @somber knot's list

low tinsel
#

What’s the lowest tier

lyric thistle
#

I just interpret it literally

wispy matrix
lyric thistle
#

if I find no Kratos and M1 in the same bit I find no Kratos M1

wispy matrix
#

not mine

flint sapphire
#

That’s the direct phrase it was listed under if u just search on the page

low tinsel
#

Is D tier the lowest

lyric thistle
#

yeah I know, but I still struggle to find things for the reason I said above kekw

flint sapphire
#

E is the lowest

lyric thistle
#

E for everyone thinkies

low tinsel
#

So E then D

#

Right

flint sapphire
#

:x

low tinsel
#

Oh

#

It was kinda cheap

#

Maybe like near $100

lyric thistle
#

my EVGA 450BR is C tier

#

100 in what country :(

low tinsel
obsidian wigeon
#

100 for that

#

yuck

flint sapphire
#

Eh first build you tend to not research too much besides the cpu gpu

earnest olive
#

$100 for d-tier psu?

#

👁️

old oasis
#

what's the best gpu to pair with the 3400g before severe bottlenecking?

earnest olive
#

in general I'd say 1060 is pushing the limits of the cpu

old oasis
earnest olive
#

do you already own it and looking to upgrade to dgpu

old oasis
#

what about a 1660 super?

#

i have the cpu

#

but not the gpu

earnest olive
#

that's gonna bottleneck for sure

old oasis
#

but im just talking about theoretical

earnest olive
#

I'd consider selling the 3400g + mobo and picking up an i5-10400 and cheap mobo for it

#

will pretty much break even with current 3400g prices

old oasis
#

i was stupid and got a x570 motherboard for it

earnest olive
#

also please don't dodge the profanity filter

old oasis
#

my bad

earnest olive
#

3400g is very weak on the cpu side

#

you could sell the cpu and mobo separately

#

3400g is a pretty high demand item

#

used x570 maybe not so much but you could get rid of it for the right price

#

an i5-10400 or i5-11400 will be much better

#

but if you would rather keep the board

#

you could sell the 3400g and pick up a 5600x

old oasis
#

i want to keep the board for futureproofing

earnest olive
#

and probably end up paying like $100

#

futureproofing doesn't exist

#

next gen is new socket new chipset new ram

flint sapphire
#

Buy a chair and some nice speakers and a decent case. Those are fairly future proof

old oasis
#

i mean, it's better for newer cpus like the 5000 series

flint sapphire
earnest olive
#

not necessarily

#

in general b550 boards have better vrms than same price class x570s

#

unless you're telling me you have an x570 godlike paired with your 3400g

#

or perhaps an x570 waterforce

#

either way my b550 board was $90 brand new and barely even wakes up to run a 5800x and 3800c14 ram at full blast

old oasis
#

its a gigabyte x570 aorus miniitx

earnest olive
#

you have an itx system?

old oasis
#

i wanted to

#

i have the cpu, motherboard, and storage

earnest olive
#

I really recommend just selling the cpu and board

#

3400g is 4c/8t zen+ with gimped cache

#

gaming performance will be somewhere along the lines of an i7-2600K

flint sapphire
#

Personally would say sell the cpu and just keep the board

earnest olive
#

competing against 10 year old hardware isn't a high bar

flint sapphire
#

🤷‍♂️

earnest olive
#

I see no reason to keep x570 itx in a case that isn't even itx

old oasis
#

i dont even have a case for it yet

earnest olive
#

locks you into overpriced zen 3 as well

#

could probably break even with an i5-11400 + cheap b560

#

compared to spending an extra $100-150 upgrading to 5600x for practically the same performance

#

if you sell the 3400g at $180 and the mobo at $200 you get $380

#

buy an i5-11400 for ~200 after tax and a b560 that's not bottom of the barrel for ~150 after tax

#

compared to selling the 3400g for $180 and paying 320 after tax for a 5600x

#

anyways

#

if not upgrading the 3400g I wouldn't go higher than gtx 1060 6gb

#

if you upgrade to 11400 or 5600x then the sky's the limit

#

both will work fine with 3090s

old oasis
#

hmmm, got it

#

thanks for your input

#

ill think about it a bit

flint sapphire
#

It all really depends on if you can sell that board for 200

old oasis
#

*cries in ebay

earnest olive
#

it retails for 220

#

even if you get 170 for it you still break even buying the 11400

#

really a no brainer imo

#

11400 runs laps around the 3400g in cpu performance

#

and if you're going to pair it with a dgpu you don't need the better igpu of the 3400g of course

#

the 11400f would be fine too

fossil cedar
#

Or if you can spend tiny bit more as you'll be waiting longer for gpu, 5600g is nicer to use til then

cursive patio
#

Im thinking about upgrading my ram but i dont want to spend to much so is Team T-Force reliable or should i spend 20 more dollars and just get corsair vengance

fossil cedar
cursive patio
#

ok would ripjaws be more reliable then team

fossil cedar
#

They're all basically the same if you're not overclocking

cursive patio
#

ok thanks for the help

fossil cedar
#

Speed and latency is more important@cursive patio

cursive patio
#

ok

fossil cedar
#

What cpu are you going to be using?

cursive patio
#

ryzen 5 3600x

fossil cedar
#

I wouldn't buy that in 2021!

cursive patio
#

i already have it

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

cursive patio
#

im not making a new build

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

cursive patio
#

just upgrading ram

fossil cedar
#

Are you adding to an existing kit?

#

Or replacing it?

cursive patio
#

replacing

#

rn i have 16gb of 2666

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

#

Good idea

cursive patio
#

and wanna get 32 3200

fossil cedar
#

I'd go 3600 instead

cursive patio
#

ok

fossil cedar
#

Cl18 is fine

#

You in the us?

cursive patio
#

yea

cursive patio
#

ok thanks for the help

fossil cedar
#

Np

cursive patio
#

now im looking at the whole build and im worried that my power supply isnt strong enough and its a 500w so do you think i might have to go to a 600w or should the 500 be ok if im not overclocking

potent portal
#

What GPU do you have? 500W is probably ok for a mid or low tier GPU.

cursive patio
#

I have a 2060

potent portal
#

That'll be fine then

cursive patio
#

ok

#

thanks

serene pulsar
#

@fossil cedar and others

#

Is this good deal?

#
wispy matrix
potent portal
#

That's a pretty garbage deal tbh, CPU and GPU are worth maybe $750 if it's a good model 3060, the rest of the parts bring that to a $1000 PC

fossil cedar
#

Way better deal ^

zealous cedar
#

Do the newer strix cards 3080Ti+ sag a lot?

echo vale
#

it doesnt sag as much as you think but it does sag a lil

fossil cedar
ripe relic
#

vecause i heard not good things about the 3060ti

potent portal
#

What bad things have you heard? It's fine overall

fossil cedar
#

@ripe relic what's your budget and have you bought anything yet?

potent portal
#

One of the best value/performance ratio cards

ripe relic
#

1300ish

#

and i bought the motherboard already

fossil cedar
#

Okay

#

Ehh can you return it?

#

Ehh actually it will be fine

#

Lemme put a list together

#

What's the use yaboy?

potent portal
#

It'll be fine sure but keep in mind that mobo has features that you'll never use and a fan that can potentially fail

ripe relic
#

just general gaming and maybe streaming/recording

fossil cedar
#

Okay

peak ginkgo
ripe relic
#

oh

#

someone said i should just get 3070 because it's only a little more expensive and like 2x better

#

so it's fine?

potent portal
#

It's not 2x better, not even close

#

Like 5-10% over the 3060 ti

ripe relic
#

ahhh alright

#

how well will my build run doom eternal?

#

anyone know?

potent portal
#

Max settings, 4k, RTX on, 80 fps lol

ripe relic
#

ok uhh

fossil cedar
#

Cuz it's gonna take some time to find a gpu

ripe relic
#

yup

#

i've been stalking the stock for so long lmao

potent portal
#

The APU he picked out will run things that use less GPU like cs:go really well, but high performance games won't be playable

fossil cedar
#

Where have you been looking?

ripe relic
#

i've been looking at a youtube livestream that tells me which websites have it in stock

#

idk though

fossil cedar
#

It will run older/lowe end games until you get a gpu ye

ripe relic
#

and why did you down grade my cpu?

potent portal
fossil cedar
potent portal
fossil cedar
potent portal
#

It has less cores sure but those cores are up to 20% better

ripe relic
#

ryzen 5 is better than ryzen 7?

#

i didn't know that

fossil cedar
#

And it has integrated graphics

fossil cedar