#building-and-recc-chat
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A used 1tb HDD is not worth $100
and considering this is in a 10 year old system
Is this system a Dell optiplex?
it's probably not that far from failing
Hold up
even 1tb nvme ssds can be had for less than $100 lmao
Lemme get the link
Is there another kind?
Wdym?
Ok. Where can I send the link
Only optiplex I know is dell
Here
we don't need to see it
Im curious
It's awful and you should not buy it.
Ok ok.
White name can't link
Oh
it has a processor that was considered bottom of the barrel over 10 years ago
no ssd
a graphics card designed for office pcs that loses to modern integrated graphics
it shouldn't be hard to build a pc that's 6-7x as powerful for $370
Does anyone know if bots get all the gpus when they’re in stock on Best Buy
Best buy has been doing in store drops lately too
Sometimes exclusively in store
Most drops are in store I do believe for Best Buy
How can I make sure I get a gpu when its in stock?
Go to your local best buy I suppose
If you're near microcenter they have some in stock right now at most branches, mostly the expensive models but still...
Sold out at my local one. Is there a way to get an email when they’re in stock?
Well Best Buy sells 3060 ti for $399
Each MC does it differently, you can ask
That's the FE model only
So?
Good luck getting that, it's literally the most desirable model because lower price
the way my microcenter did it is they have a code u pinned the the front of the store u scan the qr code with ur phone camera and it puts u on a waiting list it randomizes ur position and they call everyone to the front who got a text saying theyve been selected to receive a voucher and usually its one or 2 cards
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pMnJcT this is below $370 lol @iron wind
would run circles around that i3-2120 + gt 710 + no ssd
the only thing is im pretty sure theyre getting mostly 3080tis and 3060tis cause when i was there 2 days after a drop occured they had remnants of 3080ti shipments
lol
Circles? It's running whole laps around the 2120/710

practically achieving liftoff
i didn't even put dealhunter prices on the used stuff
those are just pretty normal prices
I’m liking it. Will one fan be enough?
case comes with 2
Oh ok
yes
Why specifically the i7 10th gen?
thats what i was gonna say
What’re you going to be using it for?
For around 2k you can do buildredux and get a 5600X/3070 system
i would go with amd but its up to you
Rendering personally I’d go ryzen and nvidia
BuildRedux can really high markup on their parts right now from what I’ve seen
For rendering I’d go for the 5900x
Ryzen 5000 are the top dogs right now in almost everything
5950x if you really need the 16 cores but I doubt you do
I have a 5900x in my CAD/ rendering and it’s handled everything I threw at it
amd is also made for gaming
It's a processor
It's made for processing
This doesn’t seem to be that bad
Yeah maybe nzxt-bld instead of buildredux
Are they? It's usually one or the other is good
Kracken + h510 🤢
A 3060 build is 1900
With a 5600x
Bruh lol
These are your only AMD cpu options
custom building isn't that bad anymore that prebuilts would be cheaper
Yeah better to do custom right now for sure but only if you can get a GPU
like if you have 2k to spend on a 3070 prebuilt you could definitely pick up a 3070Ti for 900 off of r/hws and end up below 2k total build cost
that 3 heatpipe cooler and poor airflow case
prepare for 5800x to become chernobyl recreation
not a fan of the blower 3070 either
Oh shoot I didn’t see that 3 heat pipe cooler
though i suppose blower might be better in such a bad looking case
$1955 + tax is a very premium price
They usually slap whatever model they can get into those prebuilts, not always the one pictured
Ye
my city has pretty low sales tax and that would total out to 2126.06
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JvdYkX you could buy a scalped 3070ti, double the storage, get better ram/ssd/cooling, much better case, and still come out with significantly lower price
buying a prebuilt for the cheaper gpu is dead imo
If you're rendering you probably want 32gb
11700 is comparable to the 5800X, worse than the 5800X in some cases
we're back to the point where buying a prebuilt is for buying a prebuilt
Needs more cores for rendering, it wasn't just gaming
fair
i was on clx gaming and this is what i found lmao
They're delusional if they think that'll sell
yeah
most likely
i ran 3070 and 3080 both 100% load on a 650w
it was fine
yall overestimate psu needs
still cheaper and better than the prebuilt
and thats overpaying for a 5800x
If it's a decent quality unit sure, it's fine. It's the 3080 and up that have transient load issues where higher power is more helpful.
Good 'nuf
started mining on it not realizing that afterburner decided not to apply settings
so they were both running full blast stock wattage
for 20 mins
r/hardwareswap
20 minutes isn't enough to trigger OTP if it was too much power for the fan to handle'
wont take that long to find one
Would yall say that a dell xps pc is a good gaming pc?
NO
everything dell is bad
Even Alienware, which is Dell
Damn
except maybe their monitors
The fact that I almost bought an Alienware just to rip a 3090 out of makes me cringe
Whats a $1000 pc yall would recommend?
You saw that video too huh? Where the Dell 3090 was the only good thing in that system?
Wait the 3090 in it was good?
I ended up buying an NZXT prebuilt for 3k and ripped the 3090 out of it
It didn't overheat or anything once it was removed from the hotbox it came in
Check Newegg for ABS computers, or do you feel comfortable building one?
I dont feel comfortable building one
Yeah ABS is a good enough brand
Abs doesnt have a gaming pc $1000 and under
feel like he could point at a rock and that statement would still be valid
Look local on craigslist, facebook market, etc, or check r/hardwareswap in the morning
If you're near a microcenter you could pretty easily get something like a 6700XT (3070 equivalent) for like $700
You can ask them when their next shipment is, if you're lucky they'll tell you or put you on a notification list
Each one restocks different days but I've commonly seen Tuesday and Friday
Found the video https://youtu.be/_8k5PCmFm7c
We called Dell’s G5 5000 a "warranty with e-waste attached." We said the 1660 Super in that system was the bottom of the barrel, but maybe, just maybe, Dell’s RTX 3090 can redeem them.
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This video looks at the De...
Puts $499 in title
Says in description it's $1500

Looks legit at least, I'd offer like $1200 and see if he'll meet in the middle at $1300 or so
does anyone know where to buy thermal pads to replace the putty ones on a 3080ti?
Amazon
is it just called thermal pads?
I got these ones personally, you can buy a few different sizes to try to match the height of the ones on there and return what you don't need https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YYJ299Y
awesome thank you so much
You want pads with a fairly high W/mK rating but you don't need to spend $100 on them, 12W is about the sweet spot for me
kk
MSI MPG Series A750GF Power Supply?
Good power supply
Hello guys do i need an anti static shock bracelet or do I build in certain places/with certain clothes on
^just plug your psu into a socket and touch every so often if you're worried but parts are pretty static resistant these days so i wouldn't worry hugely
Just don't build it on a carpet
If you have to build it in a room with carpet wear shoes and put it on a table
Oh yeah I should have said no carpets around if possible
actually have a question for something i cant figure out
has anyone set up RGB control on an asrock motherboard?
the polychrome software doesnt work
how do i control the 5v header?
it wont even launch the program unless you have a asrock graphics card or asrock USB RGB controller
i just want to control the 5v header thats built into the motherboard
Someone else had problems with this before i believe but can't remember if they got to work, @earnest olive has a b550 steel legend iirc tho they might know
i figured it out
you have to go to the specific motherboard model drivers page
and download THAT version of the RGB software
not the generic one they post on the main page to download
Lol
@austere condor even better use OpenRGB
i figured it out
polychrome takes very long to start up
you have to go to the specific motherboard model drivers page
and download THAT version of the RGB software
not the generic one they post on the main page to download
using an asrock board in my personal rig
polychrome was working but I ditched it for openrgb
neither one wants to control my ram though
everything else is dandy
Like all of that needs to be changed
Budget of 500?
@uncut pelican does the buid need wifi?
Cooler can be removed from the list and added later if needed
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founder's Edition AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (6 Cores/12 Threads) AMD Wraith Air Cooler MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Motherboard 16GB HyperX Fury RGB DDR4 3600MHz Memory (2x8GB) 512GB Intel 660p M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB Seagate HDD 500W EVGA Power Supply Windows 10 Home RGB Lighting Kit & Rear RGB Fan Appearance may be different than shown
Could someone explain why this has such good specs for $1699?
I dunno about their quality so idk
Just look at newegg with abs systems tbh
They got a 3070 for 1499
That psu choice is not good
It could be a crappy evga psu
Even one that burns down, who knows. The N1 is known as fire hazard
Is an i5 even that good with a 3070?
Yeah it would need 650W 80 plus gold
500w on a 3060Ti, eehhh
Whats the best Newegg pc for under 1800 AU?
No it don't lol
Better than 3600
ah good
The one infite linked is better
Cpu isn't as good but rest is better
Ok I was just looking at prebuilts because I was feeling lazy
I’m still probably building one myself
Not really worth getting an abs prebuilt at that price, 1800 aud won't even get you the 2060 i5 10400 build
ive found a pc thats got a 3060 and 5600x for 1600 AUD on BPC tech
Yeah that's way better
Will a 1660 super work with i9-10850k and is it easier to get than a 3060 ti FE? (Probably is)
are prebuilts better than building atm?
Damn that’s pretty good but my@budgets 1k or lower 😔
Ooo alr i’m probably gonna be getting that one
1660 super will, is an okay gpu to do you until you can get better but only if you get if for like 250 or under, and no the 3060 ti is rarer than unicorns
Look at 3060s or 3070s
Its a good price and it comes with an RTX 2060 and meets your pricepoint.
so my friend has their storage and their gpu but asked me to put together a list of parts to get a little upgrade under $500 and want to see if there is any adjustments i need to make https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdzxp2
I would return the ssd for starters
they wanted to keep it cause it pretty much gifted to them as a birthday gift for their old prebuilt
Ehh okay
But the have 500$ for the non purchased parts?
@formal girder do they want micro atx?
yeah
Aight
small small desk
they run ethernet
I like this build
ok thanks ill send them the list and let them buy it cause when i go see them again they will have me build it
Nice, keep us posted
will do
I am not keen on the ssd but yeah rest is nice
i said the same to her
I mean it's not gonna be baddd
Like if it was 40$ then it would be reasonable but ye
Can get an mp33 for that
yeah but it was a gift so cant complain for a free ssd
i just assumed the price on the price list for the ssd
ive seen that at my staples for like $60 and i just stood there in disgust looking at the price

yeah i mainly go there to do pickups for friends when they need switches or adapters
yo so sadly i wasn’t able to get the prebuilt due to like too much cost at once so is there any good pc part picker lists u know abt under 1k? plz and thank u
Buying parts 1 buy 1 is a terrible idea, you want to order them all within like 2 weeks incase of any dead parts etc
Oh dang, i just don’t really have the money sadly to buy it all at once or within 2 weeks
Just save it up
Wait@oh yeah i forgot lmao ok thx
But u guys have any good 1k or lower pc part picker list?
Ehh lemme see
@little osprey 1k usd? You need wifi etc?
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VXjQrr
3060 but 3060 ti/3070/6700xt if you're super lucky
O tysm
Yes
It's obviously very budget, its for my mom to do calls and her work
Well that will be a beautiful office machine
Could probs save on psu if not adding a graphics card
@uncut pelican https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ghq8Dc I'd do that then
My dumb ass forgot gravity existed so I applied thermal paste while the pc was standing

Why not 10105?
If tight budget
Definitely won't add a gpu ty
Also a rly cheap b460 and wifi adapter may be easier
you could but 6c nice but 30$ savings, suppose its up to them but i would pay the extra 30$
Its not like having faster ram will really help in office setting
yeah mb i was avoiding adapter for gpu but imma reconfig a bit
You can find a z590 for the same price bro
@uncut pelican https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LV7Fvf this actually is what id do
ohh actually the mobo you used ye
Ebic
Also you can save like 5 bucks by going mp33 if needed
this one ^
yeah i was gonna but i think sn550 worth the 5$ if available
Maybe
hm
Dhhdbfir
What abt it?
The bigger hmm
Ye we fixed that
I just suggested the cheapest b560 with wifi lol
Was actually cheaper than crap b560 + wifi adapter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vibox-VIII-27-Gaming-PC-Processor/dp/B08XQXKNQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=gaming%2Bdesktop&qid=1628884544&sr=8-13&th=1&psc=1
Link for @neat helm
Is that price before or after VAT?
cx 550 is like 15 usd more, is this build not going to have a gpu in it?
lol usb wifi dongle go brrr
I thought VAT was 20%
Look at it, it's not gonna be a high tier gaming build
Ill see that for later but like is the company legit?
With an igpu build, it won't help at all to get a cx550
i’d go with the cx 550w, would be a lot better for future upgrades
I've never heard of it, not feeling too great about the picture
office building doesn’t really need a 10400. a used 10100 would suffice even.

and might as well just go dirt cheap on the B560 boards, unless ur tryna mess with 10400 power limits…
Do you need 32GB of ram?
I suggested 10105 but pato said no
office pc
Prices in the uk and rest of eu are after vat
It seems to be a competitive price for the UK, but the build quality doesn't look promising
Yeah kinda
They needed WiFi, cheaper than bottom of barrel board +adapter
Person pato, please tell me your thoughts about this //www.amazon.co.uk/Vibox-VIII-27-Gaming-PC-Processor/dp/B08XQXKNQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=gaming%2Bdesktop&qid=1628884544&sr=8-13&th=1&psc=1
1 sec
10900f and 3070?
Wegg has this https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/abs-ali484/p/N82E16883360079?quicklink=true
It'll need monitor, peripherals, and the extra ram
This
No clue what the upgrades will run
The Amazon one may have a stock cooler
Maybe 300 pounds?
Probably, not sure about the build quality that's for sure
The ABS one is better, imo
Uk :us is roughly 1:1
reviews mention loose components and cables
Ewwwww
Talk about QC or lack of
Dell: "what's that?"
QC "if it posts it's good, right?"
That's how most of these companies operate.
Turn on, verify power light, unplug and package
No customer support either, I'm sure
Hey, they can blame it on shipping xD
then why board with onboard wifi + adapter lol..
I didn't? If i did it was mistake and fixed anyway
^
@uncut pelican https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTpL3Z btw just realized the wifi adapter at the bottom of the list was in there from previous one
Our build is more efficient
Since a gpu prolly will never go in that thing
ty
'efficient' explain?
Psu is running at close to half capacity full load on ours
PSU is most efficient at half ish load
In general
No point spending more on that psu
Yw
no point in spending more on SN550 when mp33 is cheaper no?
For this build*
Sn550 perf diff
Bigger psu no perf difference
Noticeable one at that
Yeah
would be better for upgradabulity id say
But it's an office pc for mom
Lol
10400 seems overkill for office pc..
10100 or 10105 minimum
10400 is good
dont need much more than that
used 10100 would save a lot of money tbf
30$
used
i havent seen many used 10100s
maybe its because i'm not looking for them

Well you could say that about almost every used part
Havent seen many used camerons either 

so I'm rebuilding a system and I've got a "difficult" CPU cooler
it leaves almost zero room for one or two motherboard mounting points
think I should install it last?
I mean I could partially install it before it's in the case
Yeah install it last
You should be able to install it's backplate and mounting hardware before installing Mobo tho, should save some time
thought so, thanks
Goddamnit i went down 200 points in time spy
Also i noticed that SAM brought down my time spy scores
sam is hit and miss depending on the game soo
Maybe the wegg egg is causing the issue
nah my cpu score went down 500 points and my gpu score went up 100
maybe i should go back to the manual OC instead of PBO when running time spy
How do you unlock cpu tdp?
He's talking about power limits I think
Like on a locked board like b560
Intel xtu or throttlestop
Wrong reply?
Yep...
Discord mobile playing me soz
Hi guys, I am changing my CPU and mobo. What do I need to do for my current storage with all the softwares that was installed and all other files and folders?
What will happen to the windows?
Link the windows key to your Microsoft account if you havent
Sometimes it'll get mad if you change parts otherwise
Reinstall windows if you're not changing the drive
Make a backup of anything you need first tho
So in
So uhh
I feel like my cable extensions aren’t gonna work
Well. My cable management is so terrible and I twisted my mobo cable extension. Do u guys think it’ll work?
what do you guys think about the B550-A Rog Strix
Nice mobo if you want white especially
If you don't care of colour there's better options imo
Why it poop?
well
the main people paying extra for that board would care about aesthetics
however asus is allergic to argb headers
therefore it only has 1
it also lacks front usb-c compared to the steel legend
and it's more expensive
Ahh but apart from that it's g right, was worried it had dog vrms or something
it's fine
and that's pretty much the problem
it doesn't offer anything more than "fine" for the price premium
download speed is not measured in ms
Mbps is speed
not necessarily
Oh yeah that’s what I meant
jitter is also measured in ms
My ms was 14
Is my download speed good?
speedtest ping measurement is meaningless
100mbps download is good enough
if you have to ask this question, the answer is yes
Yeah ping matters more on the games servers
if it's bad you will notice 🙂
Lol
download speed usually has little to do with the pc hardware
Is the b550 f gaming WiFi good?
What's "good"?
With the antenna?
lmao
Still need a definition of "good"
Wow.
Too subjective
again
if you have to ask if it's good or not
it's good enough
it supports wifi 6
Ok
probably better than your router
Yep
I’ll just update the drivers and hope for the best.
At least you didn’t say it’s terrible. I’m stressing out over this pc.-.
If jitter was 101ms big yikes
What are your entire specs?
lol i think id rather just skip the internet and play the dinosaur game
Lol same
Was bored in work today, chrome has a new feature, create a qr code instantly and i just mashed random keys and watched the dots dance
👁️
when i'm bored at work i just play games
working from home is nice
i'll miss it
Yes
R7 3700x, 1tb ssd, b550 rog strix WiFi, don’t gotta gpu, and I’m getting the msi 750w psu
Dont tell the boss shhh
And a x53 aio
There u go
I’ll probably get a 3060 or 3060 ti if they r in stock
Lol
?
it happens
Is a 650w psu good enough
for what system
where do these cables go to
came with case
came with aio
The one that comes from the aio is for the pump or fans
As for the case, idrk
Could be front panel or something
someone make me this build in this chat. Do I need to make changes to this one guys?
not too sure about that ram or nvme
Other than 970evo plus
And maybe that monitor
I'd rather a m27q for that price
Cheaper too
240hz tho
And way better
Yeah but m27q is 170
You won't be able to see the difference in fps
You will be able to see increase from 1080p to 1440p tho
P31 is justified
Ye
i just bought that monitor for 299$
rip
It's just order they were added in
That's all
the one made me this build said that this ram is top tier right now
mhm
I mean kinda but kinda nof
it's expensive
damn
Yeah I mean for it's price you won't find better, that's for sure
The stuff you got
which mobo is better b550-a rog strix or aorus pro b550
I’m almost certain I won’t get the 3060 ti fe from Best Buy, so is this a relatively good price for a 3060?
Also this:
Or this:
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask, if I wanted to upgrade, what should I upgrade next?
Ryzen 5 2600x
GeForce GTX 1660 ti
Corsair Vengeance 16GB RAM
Corsair RM750 watt
Asus ROG B450-F gaming motherboard
Silicon Power 1TB SSD
Mines decent.
i would say either the Cpu or Gpu
but if you upgrade the cpu you might have to change the mobo
depends on what you do with it
How did u get your 3080?
Just wanna upgrade for gaming. My gpu is able to handle smoothly with like non ultra settings lol.
I just would like to know for future reference.
click fast
and be ready
I’ve been told once, to upgrade either GPU or Mobo just wanted better experienced people opinion
it's a pretty balanced pairing so you'd be looking at upgrading both
It's been a long time since I've heard of someone having a 2600x
Dont see them super often
Ideally I'd say upgrade the cpu and gpu around the same time, your motherboard is fine for like a 5600X.
Haha yeah. Best I could do with my budget at the time.
I see I see
Thanks everyone
Yeah if you decide to put that gpu up for sale you will make a ton of money in current market
At least what you paid for it originally if not more, yeah
I'd say 500 could sell
800-1k or something on Amazon one time
Yea
And then buy a 3060 with that money, ez upgrade
Ye
Never thought to sell my GPU first and then to buy a better one lol
Cant PCs run without a gpu
Yes but it won't display anything
It literally won't run without a GPU or iGP
Get a 5700g apu and you can use the graphics on that while you wait for a real gpu
Not necessarily, it'll just max out your 2600X. You'll still get more performance.
the only thing you would prob be good with is that 750w
The mobo would be fine too, just not for anything too high power
Tons, every brand has at least 3 models lol
All 3060 cards have the GA106 chip tho
Nah just get the one you can get, they're midrange so cooler and stuff doesn't matter as much
All that changes is the PCB and shroud
Well. If I can even get to sell my GPU
Oh wait what
NVIDIA EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB XC Graphics Card is only 670$
Thought it was in the thousands. Probably just the newer ones
Yeah, because the next step up is the $400 3060 ti (at msrp)
That one can be used for mining on the side too so you can get away with paying a little extra and mining when you're idle
These prices are outrageous.
It's basic economics, demand is far exceeding the supply so the prices go up. There's other factors at play too.
That too but still
Right, it still sucks
I’m uh
Building a pc at the moment
It’s been 5 hours
And I’m lost and idk if I plugged in the right things
Is it just not turning on or have you not turned it on yet?
I’m not finished building jt
It
Like the wires and stuff I’m looking at the manual guid and stuff like that but still kinda lost
Already have my AIO and motherboard and fans plugged in
Getting a GPU Monday
Ah don’t worry too much about it then, it’s fairly simple the most annoying cables are just like the power and power led stuff, since usually they are all tiny separate things 
Probably did
Like they went in yes but idk if it was correct place
Usually the cables are well marked like one side will say psu and the other will say what it goes to
Don’t worry too much about it until you get tht gpu 👍
So if I were to turn this on to see if it works and it doesn’t turn on
Or parts of it does and others don’t
hey im new to building pc's and i was wondering if someone could help
@fossil cedar if they are alive or any of our techs
What’s an In VDG
It’s a rgb controller
Where would it go on a Arous elite V2 motherboard I can’t find it
Little three pin thing
👍
Eh just look around if anyone else is around I’m a bit busy 
Alr
imagine owning this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTNHCz just messing around again
honestly if ur gonna make something overkill like that it definitely would be another 3090 in there for sli or watever they call it now and it would 100% be liquid cooled
pretty sure theyd toss in a bunch of sabrent roket 8 tb just for fun too lol
beat me by 2k
i beat you by more just didnt feel like putting the effort to find the custom loops stuff for this kind of pc
nah thats too cheap bro lol
White or Black 🤔
Genius
im jking black
👍
gottta put in scalper pricing for gpus
so expect around 20k per gpu
somehow I don't think people are scalping those
they probably are
gaming gpu
all that vram makes them very good for gaming
mosstly for fortnite
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVy2Jf @earnest olive
nice thermal paste
ik shhh
gotta make sure you have plenty thermal paste
True
but thats just a beginner build isnt it
Wym Beginner build?
is that your new beginner build? (just as a joke)
Yeah fs
Reason: Bad word usage
bruh
The reviews on the Gpu 😂
Dont hesitate to crap on me if it is bad build but i have to ask is it any good im learning or at least trying to. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qs7JcT
I finished the of build
A few rookie mistakes
Like the 24 pin wasn’t plugged in 🤣
It looks nice though everything is all good
how do i download linux for the first time?
Looks good
Tht psu might have some issues down the road btw
Not sure why exactly but the ltt psu list puts its pretty far down at d tier
Just a heads up
So it’s not good?
Rip
I’ll just have to see how it treats me
Yeah
what am i looking at
can i ban you for recommending to buy ryzen 5 2600 for $186 and gtx 1660 super for $638
this seems like a valid ban reason
this is almost the same price as my 5800x + 3080 build for what
fine ill restart
Gambias kratos m1
yeah it's not listed in the tier list
fine let me fix it Bleach

ignorance is bliss I guess
This thing
Seen it on a YT pc build and chose to get it cuz I didn’t have a psu
Before I knew about the Corsair ones and stuff
It’s on there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i give up Bleach you can take @somber knot's list
What’s the lowest tier
I just interpret it literally
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qs7JcT but this was his first list
if I find no Kratos and M1 in the same bit I find no Kratos M1
not mine
That’s the direct phrase it was listed under if u just search on the page
Is D tier the lowest
yeah I know, but I still struggle to find things for the reason I said above 
E is the lowest
E for everyone 
Usa
Eh first build you tend to not research too much besides the cpu gpu
what's the best gpu to pair with the 3400g before severe bottlenecking?
depends on game settings resolution
in general I'd say 1060 is pushing the limits of the cpu
1080p primarily
do you already own it and looking to upgrade to dgpu
that's gonna bottleneck for sure
but im just talking about theoretical
I'd consider selling the 3400g + mobo and picking up an i5-10400 and cheap mobo for it
will pretty much break even with current 3400g prices
i was stupid and got a x570 motherboard for it
also please don't dodge the profanity filter
my bad
3400g is very weak on the cpu side
you could sell the cpu and mobo separately
3400g is a pretty high demand item
used x570 maybe not so much but you could get rid of it for the right price
an i5-10400 or i5-11400 will be much better
but if you would rather keep the board
you could sell the 3400g and pick up a 5600x
i want to keep the board for futureproofing
and probably end up paying like $100
futureproofing doesn't exist
next gen is new socket new chipset new ram
Buy a chair and some nice speakers and a decent case. Those are fairly future proof
i mean, it's better for newer cpus like the 5000 series

not necessarily
in general b550 boards have better vrms than same price class x570s
unless you're telling me you have an x570 godlike paired with your 3400g
or perhaps an x570 waterforce
either way my b550 board was $90 brand new and barely even wakes up to run a 5800x and 3800c14 ram at full blast
its a gigabyte x570 aorus miniitx
you have an itx system?
I really recommend just selling the cpu and board
3400g is 4c/8t zen+ with gimped cache
gaming performance will be somewhere along the lines of an i7-2600K
Personally would say sell the cpu and just keep the board
competing against 10 year old hardware isn't a high bar
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I see no reason to keep x570 itx in a case that isn't even itx
i dont even have a case for it yet
locks you into overpriced zen 3 as well
could probably break even with an i5-11400 + cheap b560
compared to spending an extra $100-150 upgrading to 5600x for practically the same performance
if you sell the 3400g at $180 and the mobo at $200 you get $380
buy an i5-11400 for ~200 after tax and a b560 that's not bottom of the barrel for ~150 after tax
compared to selling the 3400g for $180 and paying 320 after tax for a 5600x
anyways
if not upgrading the 3400g I wouldn't go higher than gtx 1060 6gb
if you upgrade to 11400 or 5600x then the sky's the limit
both will work fine with 3090s
*cries in ebay
it retails for 220
even if you get 170 for it you still break even buying the 11400
really a no brainer imo
11400 runs laps around the 3400g in cpu performance
and if you're going to pair it with a dgpu you don't need the better igpu of the 3400g of course
the 11400f would be fine too
Nah i at 5.50am i tend to be unconscious xD thanks tho
Or if you can spend tiny bit more as you'll be waiting longer for gpu, 5600g is nicer to use til then
Im thinking about upgrading my ram but i dont want to spend to much so is Team T-Force reliable or should i spend 20 more dollars and just get corsair vengance
Corsair is the opposite of reliable, team make decent ram ye
ok would ripjaws be more reliable then team
They're all basically the same if you're not overclocking
ok thanks for the help
Speed and latency is more important@cursive patio
ok
What cpu are you going to be using?
ryzen 5 3600x
I wouldn't buy that in 2021!
i already have it
Ahh
im not making a new build
Ahh
just upgrading ram
and wanna get 32 3200
I'd go 3600 instead
ok
yea
ok thanks for the help
Np
now im looking at the whole build and im worried that my power supply isnt strong enough and its a 500w so do you think i might have to go to a 600w or should the 500 be ok if im not overclocking
What GPU do you have? 500W is probably ok for a mid or low tier GPU.
I have a 2060
That'll be fine then
@fossil cedar and others
Is this good deal?
Cyber power is not the best thing in the world
That's a pretty garbage deal tbh, CPU and GPU are worth maybe $750 if it's a good model 3060, the rest of the parts bring that to a $1000 PC
Do the newer strix cards 3080Ti+ sag a lot?
it doesnt sag as much as you think but it does sag a lil
Ehh the 3 fan gpus are quite chonky so there is a possibility of sag, if you're worried about it you could always get a bracket
can someone help me find a new gpu for this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yaboy2412/saved/#view=2BWZJx
vecause i heard not good things about the 3060ti
What bad things have you heard? It's fine overall
@ripe relic what's your budget and have you bought anything yet?
One of the best value/performance ratio cards
Okay
Ehh can you return it?
Ehh actually it will be fine
Lemme put a list together
What's the use yaboy?
It'll be fine sure but keep in mind that mobo has features that you'll never use and a fan that can potentially fail
just general gaming and maybe streaming/recording
Okay
The 3060 is really good. A lot of people talk bad about something because they're jealous that they don't have one so they try to make you feel bad for having it
oh
someone said i should just get 3070 because it's only a little more expensive and like 2x better
so it's fine?
DOOM Eternal, powered by idTech, running on a GeForce RTX 3060 Ti at 4K with ray tracing enabled to experience the game’s stunning visual fidelity and frantic action like never before.
PC Specs :
● CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x @ 4.95 Ghz PBO (https://amzn.to/3qlT8NW)
● MOBO: MSI b450 Carbon PRO AC (https://amzn.to/3452T7T)
● RAM: HyperX Predator DDR4 ...
Max settings, 4k, RTX on, 80 fps lol
ok uhh
@ripe relic https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vckZNP i woo do this, a 3060 ti or 3070 if you're really lucky but a 3060 will do as well, i went 5600g so you can use the pc while waiting for the gpu
Cuz it's gonna take some time to find a gpu
The APU he picked out will run things that use less GPU like cs:go really well, but high performance games won't be playable
Where have you been looking?
i've been looking at a youtube livestream that tells me which websites have it in stock
idk though
It will run older/lowe end games until you get a gpu ye
and why did you down grade my cpu?
You can do a stock drop discord too, you can sit in the voice chat and you'll hear a tone when something is in stock
Ahh, there's a guide in the pins of #graphics-cards if ya need a hand
It's not a downgrade
I didn't it's better/sameish performance depending on the workload
It has less cores sure but those cores are up to 20% better
And it has integrated graphics

