building-and-recc-chat

[thorn wyvern]

On a scale from 1-10 how hard would it be to build a pc with no experience and bad with instructions

@rich helm

@earnest olive

[stoic island]

2

[potent portal]

It's pretty much plug stuff in and it works as far as the building goes. Things are designed to fit only one way. The hard part is when the wiring gets complicated like doing RGB.

[stoic island]

If you don't read instructions, 6.
But if you at least spend some time to read instructions, it's just Adult Legos :p

[marsh kiln]

I would read your instructions watch a few building videos from a few YouTube people that know what they are doing and or talk to some of the amazing people here

[thorn wyvern]

Ok so

Would it be easy to just hop in a dsc call and you tell me what to do

Also

I don’t have any parts

Also 1 thing is

I am a mute

[potent portal]

Then I would suggest PC building simulator

[thorn wyvern]

My pc I have rn can’t run it lmfao

[marsh kiln]

Pc building sim is a great game for that also ltt videos or a bitwit how to build a pc guild about 55 minutes and his video can be applied to almost any computer

[potent portal]

It's pretty low spec honestly

[stoic island]

I don't like PC building simulator, it plays weirdly imo

It puts less emphasis on what actually matters imo, actually getting cables from where they come from to where they need to be plugged in :p

[fossil cedar]

Integrated not supported is a bit odd imo but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil cedar]

That's fair, but they can watch a YouTube tutorial for that i suppose

[earnest olive]

they saying not officially supported, could just be due to APIs?

[potent portal]

Most iGPU don't match the GTX 660 lol

[marsh kiln]

Try the building sim from the app store it plays like a 10 year old made the game its so scuffed

[stoic island]

Lol

[earnest olive]

a UHD 750 can't match a GTX 660

neither can ryzen APUs

[thorn wyvern]

I have an I3

[earnest olive]

i7-8809G integrated will smash it though

[thorn wyvern]

Runs windows 7

[earnest olive]

i dont know any other integrated graphics that will beat the gtx 660 convincingly

[potent portal]

If it's at least a 4th gen i3 it can beat the i5 2500

[stoic island]

It will run on uhd 620 in my experience, although not well.

[thorn wyvern]

Idk what gen tho

[potent portal]

That's supported

[fossil cedar]

I feel like 4650g would handle it lol, also you could always just play low 720p lol

[earnest olive]

4650g won't match a gtx 660

but yeah "minimum" is subjective

i dont remember how it ran when i tried it

[stoic island]

If you can tolerate single digit fps or so, it'll definitely be fine

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but it's not thatttt far away

[stoic island]

I was doing like 5fps lowest settings 720p with uhd 620

[fossil cedar]

Or just play like 480p

[potent portal]

What year is the computer from?

[thorn wyvern]

2005-2007 idk

[earnest olive]

depends lol most people would say 50% is far away

[thorn wyvern]

It takes at least 3 minutes to get out of the start screen

[fossil cedar]

Is it really 50% worse than a 660? Damm

[thorn wyvern]

And loading my account

[earnest olive]

i posted the benchmark

[thorn wyvern]

5 mins

[earnest olive]

using gt 1030 to represent ryzen apu

[fossil cedar]

It's late, i read as 200 point diff lol

[potent portal]

The very first "i" series was 2006

[earnest olive]

660 is slightly more than 50% better and also has 3gb vram while apu would be restricted to 2gb

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[thorn wyvern]

Let’s just say it’s old

[earnest olive]

rx vega m gh is a special case

an igpu with 4gb hbm2 on die

performs at around 1050ti level

[fossil cedar]

See if it's included in geforce now, just incase it is lol

[desert gulch]

What's the price and socket?

[earnest olive]

...nuc

[desert gulch]

Oh can't just buy the Apu?

Cringe

[earnest olive]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-hades-canyon-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-gaming-amp-entertainment/p/1VK-004K-002H3

i7-8809G

i mean

i'm sure someone would be willing to sell you one if you offered enough money

[stoic island]

4gb of hbm on die in an apu is interesting

[earnest olive]

you'd have to solder it on yourself though

BGA2270 socket lol

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Lol

[fossil cedar]

I7 has vega graphics ?

[stoic island]

It's special

[earnest olive]

yeah

intel cpu with radeon igpu

[thorn wyvern]

Wait does everybody here just but the operating system from a site for 100$ or go on another website???

[desert gulch]

eBay key 5 bucks

[earnest olive]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/130409/intel-core-i7-8809g-processor-with-radeon-rx-vega-m-gh-graphics-8m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html

[fossil cedar]

That is illegal

[desert gulch]

Lol

[earnest olive]

the best part is

it has 2 igpus

[thorn wyvern]

Don’t use eBay lol

[earnest olive]

rx vega m gh AND intel hd 630

[stoic island]

Lol

[earnest olive]

pato's head hurts now

[desert gulch]

Why even include 630?

630 is crap compared lol

[earnest olive]

probably for power saving reasons

just like laptops

[desert gulch]

Maybe

[earnest olive]

use intel igpu when not gaming

vega gpu when gaming

[stoic island]

It's a nuc so basically laptop

[desert gulch]

Ye

[thorn wyvern]

But for real any other sit does everybody here just but the operating system from a site for 100$ or go on another website???

[earnest olive]

you were already answered

stop asking

[stoic island]

Buying win10 key for 100$ too wacky

5$ keys nice

[fossil cedar]

100$ for Windows is a rip off, you can use perfectly for free or if you want to activate it to get rid of the watermark and a few other tiny customisation features you can pay like 20$ for a key https://www.urcdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1966-20.html that's legit, they get keys from India etc where it's like 5$

[potent portal]

Yeah the $5 ebay keys from reputable sellers are fine

[thorn wyvern]

Kk

[fossil cedar]

I mean it just seems so wrong you know, it's like if pepsi and coke made a special edition cola

[earnest olive]

lol absolutely

[fossil cedar]

I just recommend urcdkeys cuz definitely not mass license soo

[marsh kiln]

Could someone please make a pc parts list around 3 ot 4 hundred it would need to run games but not real have triple A games just like discord running Google Chrome and running on a minecraft server where there maybe lots of intense moments for the computer like fireworks tnt and many other things. This computer list would be very very appreciated.

[potent portal]

You'll be buying used parts in that budget. Probably repurpose an old prebuilt that someone stripped the GPU out of but still has the APU.

[marsh kiln]

Ok thanks for the idea

[desert gulch]

Ye optiplex time

[marsh kiln]

Yea my friend does not have a big budget that's why was wondering seeing what I could get her

[desert gulch]

PS5/Xbox series x/s

[stoic island]

Might be some decent refurb options somewhere

[desert gulch]

Maybe

[marsh kiln]

She needs a pc

[desert gulch]

Hmm optiplex and GPU would be best bet imo

[stoic island]

Do they already have monitor mouse keyboard headphones?

[marsh kiln]

Yes

[stoic island]

Could do iGP build and GPU later

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fG43xc probs the best off the shelf pc you could do for 400$ unless you lived near micro center, where you could get a 10100 for a bit cheaper

It would not be able to host a mc server very well if that's what you meant btw tho

[marsh kiln]

I would be doing that on my pc she would just be joining

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah it should be fine for just playing mc

Ideally you would go i5 11400 and b560 for the better igpu and a bit faster ram but :/

[marsh kiln]

I was thinking of trying to find a dell optiplex that runs ddr4 and a decent cpu that way I can upgrade the ram if need be and add a used good gpu

[fossil cedar]

Swap the memory out for this too if possible in budget https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LhjBD3/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-su016gxlzu320bdaj6 and if in budget grab a b560 for 20$ more

[fossil cedar]

A 1050 ti would cost like 300 on ebay sure

[marsh kiln]

I'm also checking my school they might be getting rid of there old desktops and I'm trying to get a few of them

[fossil cedar]

Schools will probs have ddr3 if they getting rid of

[marsh kiln]

It would not be the best at all but it would be something and some are ddr4 they just have chromebooks for the entire school so the don't really need them

[rich helm]

Ddr3 not that bad for flips tbh

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but if it's a school pc probs has like a 4th gen i3

[marsh kiln]

No

[fossil cedar]

Also it's for a friend so ddr4 would be nice

[marsh kiln]

All the ones I have use have like drr4 8gb 15 4000 series

[fossil cedar]

Huh?

I5 4000?

Ddr4?

[marsh kiln]

I'm pretty sure idk I know some have i5 and ddr4

[fossil cedar]

They newer then 4th gen anyway then

[marsh kiln]

Yes

They can run coding and light games and 3d modeling on Google

[potent portal]

At least 7th gen then, probably 8th

[marsh kiln]

And score not to bad on the cinnabench

[cursive wharf]

Ye that's the one. Formulamod stopped that bundle on Ali site. Might be able to find it on their actual site but I havent checked to see what shipping prices are for a long time (during mid extreme covid stuff shipping wasnt fun for them apparently).

[marsh kiln]

But we will have to see were things go

[cursive wharf]

You could ask Formulamod to modify this kit or smth, add a 360mm rad or smth
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002484285469.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.2.360e41f5PHwv72

[stoic island]

Huh

[cursive wharf]

Formulamod being the store that I first used however long ago

[rich helm]

@marsh kiln what is your friends budget

[cursive wharf]

Might be something nice here, idk
https://www.formulamod.com/

[desert gulch]

They legit said kek

[rich helm]

I ain’t got time to scroll

Hmm you could pick up a cheaper system locally

Like i7- 4770

Then put a 960 in it

[marsh kiln]

I have been thinking about going to a used computer store and seeing what they have

For cheap

[rich helm]

Computer store probably more expensive then whatever random pc you’ll find on like Facebook marketplace

Unless they have gpus

[marsh kiln]

I have found some that are not to bad

I know there might be something else I put in the pc as a gift/surprise

[untold vessel]

Could anyone help me find an $80 (or lower), quiet PC Case that has built-in fans for airflow?

I currently have the P300A as my case and am purchasing 2 extra fans. I wish to simplify this and just get one great case and no extra fans.

Here is my current Case, alongside its build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PYwBc

[stoic island]

could just grab a neo air

[desert gulch]

why a unlocked cpu on a locked mobo?

and why that hdd?

[untold vessel]

Y'know what, you're right. I need to at least give myself the option to overclock. Could you please recommend a new motherboard to me?

[desert gulch]

z590

or if you dont want to overclock go 11400 and keep that mobo

its up to you

[untold vessel]

I was told by bob that that HDD is the fastest, cheapest-for-what-you-get 7200 HDD that uses CMR recording in the market

[desert gulch]

hmm

[untold vessel]

Ehhh, very tempting, but i need at least the 11500 for the integrated graphics

[desert gulch]

arent you getting a gpu first?

[untold vessel]

which if I do at least get a 11500, should I not just get a 11600 and go into overclocking

[untold vessel]

Nope! I'm going to wait until the market goes alllll the way down, and then get myself a snazzy 3070ti

[desert gulch]

nice

[untold vessel]

yep!

[untold vessel]

Oh shoot, this is expensive. Is there a cheaper z590, or perhaps even an alternative to a z590?

[desert gulch]

some z490s will i think

[untold vessel]

Looking up now

[desert gulch]

gigabyte i think has some

im guessing most manufactures by now have released a bios that will support them tbh

[untold vessel]

These are even better priced, but still $60 more than the current board

[stoic island]

I mean, at that price, grab a x300 4tb lmao

x300 is great

and 4tb for the same price as 2tb

It's also cmr, 7200rpm

[untold vessel]

What're the perks of it? Sounds really good!

[desert gulch]

well thats because it gives you ability to oc

[untold vessel]

*Whoop, just told me

[untold vessel]

Eh, y'know what, you're right. OCing is not for me. Have any good CPU downgrade options for me to save money?

[stoic island]

11500

[untold vessel]

Have a link for this, 1111?

[untold vessel]

11500 it is!

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/toshiba-x300-hdwe140xzsta-4tb/p/N82E16822149627

[stoic island]

Do keep in mind it keeps going out of stock, it's supposed to be around the 230$ mark

not 300$

[desert gulch]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1621134-REG/intel_bx8070811500_core_i5_11500_2_7_ghz.html

bh is getting more soon

[untold vessel]

Will do, the cpu will be one I should go to best buy for

[stoic island]

11400 also works, but slightly worse iGPU

11500 has the same iGPU as the 11600k

(uhd 750)

[untold vessel]

thanks intel!

[untold vessel]

putting this in rn!

[untold vessel]

Hold on, I'm reading the reviews of the x300 4tb, and they're not as good as the 2tb WD Red. Is this because perhaps the x300 is less reliable / has a shorter lifespan?

[thorn wyvern]

Anybody know what is the best laptop on Amazon, Newegg, Best Buy, etc (no eBay or websites I don’t trust) for $1250 max

[stoic island]

It should not be, and well, depends on the reviews you're looking at

[echo vale]

which one is a better aio

[stoic island]

Actual reviewer review for example:
https://www.kitguru.net/components/hard-drives/simon-crisp/toshiba-x300-6tb-hdd-review/

[echo vale]

arctic freezer or galahad

[stoic island]

Depends on what you want, they're close enough

[echo vale]

is there something better than those 2 or they the bang for ur buck

[stoic island]

Freezer ii is the best bang for your buck

125$ for 360mm is great

[echo vale]

kk

[desert gulch]

but if you want good looks then go galahad

freezer ii kinda ugly ngl

[echo vale]

like the socket

or the rad fans

[stoic island]

Always keep in mind reviews on retailer sites aren't always from the most knowledgeable people

And well, the star rating can easily be misrepresented by someone rating a product 1 star/wegg because of late shipping or something that has nothing to do with the product.

[untold vessel]

completely right. I've made your adjustment

[untold vessel]

Could you recommend a cheaper but just as effective motherboard for this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PyrkX

[untold vessel]

Hey Intel, have any cheaper Mobos for this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PyrkX

[desert gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rpj9Mv

ez

[stoic island]

I mean, b560m-a is just 10$ cheaper

[untold vessel]

This one doesn't support 3600 ram

[desert gulch]

ye it will

should be able to

[untold vessel]

I just looked it up

[potent portal]

B560 can do overclocked memory

[desert gulch]

ur prolly looking at JEDEC speeds

[untold vessel]

https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/gigabyte-b560m-ds3h-vs-asus-prime-b560-plus

[untold vessel]

I think

[potent portal]

Incomplete list

[untold vessel]

I don't know too much, but I think the Gigabyte one doesn't support up to 3600

[untold vessel]

Which one?

[potent portal]

Any B560 board will support the same, with a few exceptions in compatibility with brands

You could get any B560 up to 4000+ in theory

(In practice it might need a little tweaking)

[stoic island]

I mean, with 11th gen imc, shouldn't be an issue to do 4000+ even xmp

[untold vessel]

***Guys, will build be able to Play AAA games at 4k60hz?

What fps do you estimate I might get? ***

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Znn47X

[potent portal]

4k60 is going to be tricky on a 3070 ti. You might need to turn a couple details down.

[rich helm]

Yeah going to need 3080 at least prob

Or 3080tie

[little osprey]

hii

[potent portal]

@little osprey No bottom rad? Weak

[little osprey]

I tried, wouldn't fit/connect the pipping properly

That and the board didn't have enough power connectors for a bottom rad

I tried to do top, front, rear, bottom, and then two on the back of the case as well, but alas not enough connectors @potent portal

[potent portal]

Well that means you need a controller then with supplemental power/rgb connections

[little osprey]

They don't allow that in PC builder tho

Or I would

I definitely would

Two or three of them if needed

[potent portal]

I figured as much, it's a little limited when you get into the super custom stuff like that

[little osprey]

Unfortunately

[potent portal]

If you had a way to do more headers you could do intake fans on the bottom at least

[little osprey]

Its great if you want to mess around and learn how to build and then do tests on builds you're interested in, but that's it

[little osprey]

I wish you could also change if fans are intake or exhaust

[stoic island]

hi

[little osprey]

Hey 11

[potent portal]

Lian Li Unifans would be nice on there

[earnest olive]

pc building simulator omits the most fun part of pc building

[little osprey]

You mean the 3 or 4 fan in one?

[earnest olive]

cable management

[little osprey]

It auto does it for you

And it does it pretty well actually

[potent portal]

That's the problem lol, it's fun figuring out where everything needs to go

[earnest olive]

yup

sometimes cable management is frustrating

but it always feels worth it in the end

[fading oyster]

Ayo

Does anyone know how to build a pc

[earnest olive]

...yes?

[fading oyster]

Would u be willing to hop in a call

Im stuck

[earnest olive]

can't

sorry

what are you stuck on

[fading oyster]

Im trying to get all the cables plugged into the mobo

And I don’t know which ones go where

[earnest olive]

manual

[cursive wharf]

Manual is OP

[violet crown]

So I'm still having issues with my 5rx580 rig.... I can get 4 up and running... when I plug im the 5th to the first PSU
All the other GPUs fans are off while that ones spinning

I unplugged the 5th and the 4 stopped working..... (I assume the 5th gpu had an older bios on it?)

So I DDU and reinstalled 21.4.1 adrenalin.... got a black screen and a notice from AMD software

So DDU again reinstalled, same issue...
DDU again... reinstall 21.6.1
Black screen and alert from AMD.... why is it not installing the software correctly
But it did that the first time I recently got 4 got work?

[earnest olive]

might have better luck asking in r/gpumining

most of us don't put 5 gpus in one rig

[potent portal]

You could also check with a mining server like ethermine

[cursive wharf]

BIOS settings changed maybe?

[violet crown]

Where's that channel

[cursive wharf]

Auto changed and then didn't revert after taking GPU out?

[potent portal]

It's not a channel, it's a different server. I can DM the link.

[violet crown]

Thank you

[earnest olive]

i've never had more than 2 gpus in one rig so dunno

[violet crown]

Probably sticking to nvidia if I do another rig... amds being a pain

[cursive wharf]

In the meantime make sure the last 580 properly works in a separate system

[potent portal]

Do you have "above 4g decoding" on in bios, or whatever the option is called in your bios?

[violet crown]

Rx 580 red devil 8gb i believe...x6 but I think I botched one by plugging in something backwards... and I think #5 may have been botched too

I open adrenaline and turn all to compute mode then run msi afterburner

Msi after burner is dial up laggy every click when I plug 4 gpus back in that were working

[little osprey]

@violet crown most motherboards don't support 5 GPUs, only a max of 4

[violet crown]

Mine does 6

[potent portal]

That's why I mentioned the 4g decoding option, it's specifically made to help that

[little osprey]

It might have 6 slots, but the firmware will only allow 4 max

[violet crown]

God damn

[cursive wharf]

"Plugged it in backwards"
Did everything work after that? Sounds like smth to cause a catastrophic failure

[little osprey]

What's the motherboard? I can help you look it up

[still roost]

PHUCKER#2659 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

?

[violet crown]

I think 3 years ago I plugged a sata cable into a pci e.... and also a riser in backwards.... but somehow for the past 2 years it was mining with melted cables

[little osprey]

.....

[violet crown]

Still alive somehow... new psu

[little osprey]

Umm....

[violet crown]

Sorry ask rock

Asrock btcpro

H81 pro BTC

[potent portal]

How would you manage to plug a sata into PCIe? They're completely different

[violet crown]

6pin into a 8pin?

[potent portal]

Ohhh on the power supply

That can cause a short circuit

That's why the cable melted

[little osprey]

@violet crown i unfortunately don't see anything about crossfire/sli compatibility so I can't help here

[potent portal]

Mining doesn't fall under Crossfire

[little osprey]

There is 1 pcie x16 and 5 pcie x1 slots so....idk

[little osprey]

Ahh

I'm sure it still only supports up to 4

[violet crown]

So... melted cables, plastic in gpu port... picked it out with a needle.... plugged it in but I know 1 was causing issues... not sure on the other
But currently 4 gpus are noticed but msi is laggy AF..... I assume the bios still didn't install correctly?

[little osprey]

I think you might just be screwed GPU wise

[violet crown]

How did I have 5 up and running 3 years ago? What happened since then? Windows update?

[little osprey]

🤷

[violet crown]

I planned on building a test bench to test the 2 gpus.... but now I'm wondering if I should just rebuild the rig.... maybe the mobo is bad now?

[little osprey]

I would say upgrade but with prices how they are.....

[potent portal]

Short circuit could have killed it gradually

[violet crown]

Well I have a dual 1080ti but I want a something with 3090 in it... but then ill have a 5gpu rig sitting

[potent portal]

580s are nearing the point where they're not profitable anyway

[violet crown]

So since it was still running with its leg blown off, the new (psu) is stitching it back on but there's bad blood flow is what your saying... somewhere?

[little osprey]

I have a 2070S, I really want an upgrade, but prices....

[little osprey]

Kinda.....I think

[violet crown]

6gpus pulling in about $60 every 5 days

[little osprey]

...I make that in 5 hours doing real work.....

Wait...no....45 minites

*minutes

[violet crown]

Haha... well before I start just buying random parts is there a way to fix the possibly smaller issue?
Some arnt as fortunate, thats about half a day pay

[little osprey]

New motherboard?

[still roost]

PHUCKER#2659 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[potent portal]

Depending on your power costs you're probably only making $100-200 a month, not counting running your AC more if you're not exhausting heat out of the building

[violet crown]

Comon dont censor me

I was able to smoothly run 4gpus for 3 days straight just yesterday... until I plugged in the 4th

Bios?

Rents now $600 w/s/g free.... sooo getting there

[potent portal]

Or the 5th is shorted and grounding one of your power planes

[violet crown]

DDU and reinstall 21.4.1 again and again until I dont get a black screen and alert?

[earnest olive]

well you can mine and do real work at the same time

i have 2 jobs and do a little mining

[violet crown]

I need a new job, where's the door so I can get my foot in

[potent portal]

You can check continuity on the circuits with a multimeter pretty easily

[earnest olive]

more income is more income

sure the amount i mine per day is only worth one hour of my wages

[violet crown]

My current entire offtime is trying to get this rig to work.... ive been off since 6pm

[earnest olive]

but i didn't have to actually do work for that free extra hour per day

[violet crown]

Preach@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

the only work is the initial setup and then minor maintenance

[desert gulch]

Passive income pog

[potent portal]

I like making money while I'm on vacation 😎

[earnest olive]

i like making money while i'm asleep

and eating

and playing games

[violet crown]

If you can't make money while you sleep, you'll be working the rest of your life--warren buffet

[potent portal]

I just play my Switch more so my gpu can do more work lol

[earnest olive]

the games i play only knock off about 10-15 mh/s from my 3070

[violet crown]

And currently im making less soo now I can't sleep

[earnest olive]

can still get 45+ mh/s on it while gaming

usually over 50

[potent portal]

And the games I play crash the system if I mine while playing them

[violet crown]

Thats the GeForce 3080?

[earnest olive]

no, 3070

it gets 62 mh/s idle

[violet crown]

Woof

[earnest olive]

45-50 mh/s running league or genshin impact

for some reason the 3080 loses more hashrate to play the same games at the same settings and fps

[violet crown]

38mh when I play league

[earnest olive]

3080 gets 94.5 mh/s idle

65-70 mh/s running league or genshin impact

therefore i choose 3070 as my main gaming gpu until mining dies or i get rid of it

i'm starting to downsize

[violet crown]

Soo you guys think DDU clean instal? Rstheb then spend more money on a new mobo and have the same issue?

[earnest olive]

getting rid of a 3070 soon

and a 5700xt

power bill is getting expensive in summer

[potent portal]

If your problem is hardware related no amount of software/firmware fixes will help

[violet crown]

Why would I get black screens with an alert... but one time it goes thru... luck of the draw?

[earnest olive]

sorry but i don't have any clues about why your rig isn't working

[potent portal]

It's hard to pin down the exact problem, which honestly points even more to hardware to me

[earnest olive]

i only do 1-2 cards per mobo

[still roost]

PHUCKER#2659 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

PHUCKER#2659 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[earnest olive]

lol

[potent portal]

Oops lol

[earnest olive]

i wonder if he's gonna come back

[potent portal]

I sent him the link and told him it was just a kick, not a ban, so maybe

[earnest olive]

there he is

[violet crown]

I'm here, now I guess whats the cheapest pieces I can buy to install my current CPU and try to run 4-6gpus on

As I want to build a 3090/3080rig but also do water cooled if its ever available for those

[earnest olive]

as a small time miner i've decided if i'm already wasting electricity i don't also want to create e-waste

[violet crown]

For my final build

[earnest olive]

so i just put 1-2 cards on a modern motherboard with a modern gaming cpu

no risers no special psus

later on i'll just sell all the hardware i bought in gaming systems

[potent portal]

Water cooling is possible on 3080/3090, you just need one that has a water block designed for it

[earnest olive]

you should consider it

more expensive initial capital but you make back your entire investment

same cannot be said for mining rigs/risers/etc

[violet crown]

I definetly am, because this rig has been work for years... computers arnt built for it i guess

[earnest olive]

and yes water blocks are a thing for 3080/3090

not all of them though

just gotta check if your desired model has one

[cursive wharf]

honestly, watercooling 3080/3090 on mining is good for the resell, not needed for usage

[earnest olive]

language 🙂

[cursive wharf]

I thought that was directed towards me for a moment, welp

[violet crown]

Sorry man I do need to work on that I tried editing that

[earnest olive]

there are some 3080/3090 models that come with water blocks pre-installed

[cursive wharf]

those are bad in pricing, wouldnt recommend those

[earnest olive]

it's fine when i first joined here i tripped the bot a lot

now i'm a mod

[desert gulch]

Ekwb is hella pog

[cursive wharf]

ek sad

[earnest olive]

worth it if it's the only one you can get and/or you're scared to install your own block (then again, if you're custom looping this is unlikely)

[violet crown]

Well I've never done a water build... never thought I would but now, I wanna do it for the glory and to have as a forever rig

[earnest olive]

ryoku built a custom loop because the only 3080 he could find was water blocked

[potent portal]

Or just get one that has an AIO on it like the Kingpin

[cursive wharf]

Ye, if it's custom block you shouldnt really be scared of damaging it cuz leakage more of a concern. AIO on the otherhand, eh

Kingpin is actually insane value if you're in the US

pretty much same price as any other 3090 other then FE

[violet crown]

Is AIO different the water?

[earnest olive]

AIO is water cooling but it's factory sealed

[potent portal]

It's still liquid but you don't ever need to change it

[earnest olive]

it's basically a prebuilt water cooling loop

[cursive wharf]

custom block is for an actual custom loop

[violet crown]

You have to change it if you put on your own water block and worry about leaks?

[earnest olive]

pump, coolant, reservoir, radiator is all combined

generally leaks are not a concern with reputable aios

[potent portal]

Yeah if you do custom you have to worry about all that, change the coolant once in a while so avoid growth

[earnest olive]

if you put on your own water block then you are essentially throwing away the AIO so no reason to pay extra for one

[cursive wharf]

eh, coolant doesnt really need to be changed on custom with the right stuff

[potent portal]

Leaks after you build it and test it isn't usually a problem

[earnest olive]

custom loop is more expensive, leaks are a concern, and you must maintain it regularly unless you build your loop in a very specific way that sacrifices aesthetics for practicality

[potent portal]

If you have any color in it you definitely need to change it and flush it

[earnest olive]

i've heard people running custom loops using black rubber tubing and diluted automotive coolant that don't need to maintain their loop for 10+ years

plastic tubing and/or colored coolant will cause buildup over time and you'll need to perform maintenance

[potent portal]

Auto coolant is thick, need a powerful pump

[jagged ember]

So dilute it

[earnest olive]

they said they were running 10% automotive coolant 90% distilled water

[jagged ember]

Lol idk how thicc it is tho

[potent portal]

Ah that makes more sense

[jagged ember]

Or get an industrial pump

[potent portal]

Since the auto coolant will have anti-growth and everything it's less likely to have issues

[earnest olive]

their logic is there's no reason to pay a premium for epic gamer coolant when the automotive industry has had more than a hundred years to figure out their coolant and they won't be able to see it through the rubber tubing anyways

seems sound enough to me

[jagged ember]

But like, it'll go through the micro whatever tubes on the cpu block right?

[earnest olive]

micro fins?

[jagged ember]

Those yeah

[earnest olive]

yeah, they say that plastic tubing and/or colored coolant leaves deposits on those micro fins over time

while auto coolant and rubber tubing does not

[potent portal]

Or go for the pro gamer move and do all copper

[earnest olive]

should be similar logic to not wanting to drink a water bottle that's been heated for the past 5 years

there's probably some level of plastic in that water

[violet crown]

Soo instead of a water build i should look for a pre-built closed AIO with a 3090 in it, because thats the only way ill get a 3090 anyways... and I won't have to deal with leaks?
Would i be able to put in a 2nd gpu with waterworks and it attach to the AIO?

[earnest olive]

1. prebuilts with aio 3090s are probably gonna harder to find than a 3090
2. no, aios are closed loops

[potent portal]

Since an AIO is a closed loop, you can't modify it in any way to add more to it. You could add a second GPU but mounting the rad will be tricky if it also has an AIO

[earnest olive]

just need a case with a lot of rad support

[desert gulch]

You can do a duplication glitch on automotive coolant rn, just warm up car real good and take off radiator cap... It's all duplicated coolant

Do it a few times and you'll have enough for a loop

[violet crown]

Hmmm soo i have better luck buying a non AIO desktop, but I can't add a 2nd 3090...... custom tunes are issues.... not parts that are already built my reputable companaies

[jagged ember]

Why 2 3090 tho

[potent portal]

Mining

[lyric thistle]

guys

I got my rammy 😎

[still roost]

MrManiac3#3473 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[lyric thistle]

lol

[violet crown]

I think its my mobo? I DDu the gpus im safe mode---exit safe mode tried installing it installed restarted then when I opened it again nothing happened so I tried re-installing now I'm probably gunna DDu again

[potent portal]

Try again lol

[lyric thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306263175861633035/865811421346267156/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306263175861633035/865811649080066048/20210716_205620.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306263175861633035/865811695292907530/20210716_205930.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306263175861633035/865811737982926898/20210716_210140.jpg

rammy

[potent portal]

1600, not too bad for DDR3. I've got a set of DDR2-800 coming. A full 2GB worth. It's gonna be great.

[lyric thistle]

epic

I'm pretty sure 1600 is the highest I can get on this thing, no real memory oc on a Q87 chipset or i5-4460/i7-4790

it's 9-9-9-24 which is nice, I've only ever used 11-11-11-27 or whatever

[potent portal]

Yeah without an OC board you're kinda stuck

[lyric thistle]

not miffed at all :^)

still gonna be better than anything I've ever had

my pc at home has 12GB 1600 CL11

the stuff that came out of here is 8GB of the same timing

[potent portal]

12GB on 2 sticks or what?

[lyric thistle]

yea

8GB 4GB

[potent portal]

Oh mixed kit I see

[lyric thistle]

seems to be a common combo for OEMs

[potent portal]

Yeh my lappy came with 6GB, 2+4

[lyric thistle]

ah

I think my aunt's 1st gen Core i7 laptop has that

[potent portal]

Well it came with a single core Sempron so that should date the laptop

Luckily this was before soldering in the cpu was common so I upgraded to a dual core with the same tdp

[lyric thistle]

epic

[potent portal]

Yes, that's a fun phrase I said, upgraded to a dual core

[lyric thistle]

😎

[potent portal]

I don't even think there's any single core CPUs left, even mobile has 4+

Even the worst Celeron from 2013 has 2 cores lol

[lyric thistle]

storage controllers maybe

pretty sure I've seen single core on the SSD spreadsheet

MX500

's controller is I think

[potent portal]

Possibly in the networking world too, like low power switches

[lyric thistle]

ah

very fascinating

[potent portal]

Checking on Intel Ark it looks like the last single core (without HT) CPUs were way back when Intel was PGA

[lyric thistle]

👀

[violet crown]

I finally did it.... 6pm-11:46
Roughly 6 DDUs later and 1 long report to AMD about the crash... individually adjusted msi and boom..... now I can make money while I sleep

[jagged ember]

O

Isn't mining not nearly as profitable anumore

[past bane]

If anyone has a fractal meshify 2 compact with air cooling ping me

[past bane]

What is this

Damn mining ethers

[flint sapphire]

I have the regular first gen fractal meshify C but it’s fairly similar. Feel free to ping or dm me

[vague oracle]

What card is that? @violet crown

[past bane]

Thank you, the reason why I asked for something so specific is because I want to buy the Compact case. Moreover, what peaks my interest are the temperatures the case achieves with stock or aftermarket fans

I plan on building that case with air cooling, stock or arctic p12/14 pwm pst co

I wanna see with what size fans does the case perform best with

My cpu is 11500, scythe fuma 2 and hopefully a 3060/ti

[vague oracle]

I was looking into the Meshify 2 Compact but I ended up buying my bae

[fossil cedar]

Cases will always perform with the largest and most fans possible, for example if you can fit 2 140s in the front or 3 120s do 3 120s

[flint sapphire]

So my general build right now (not at home I’ll give you the run down when I get back) is a 3800x on a dark rock pro with some thermal take tough fans acting as intake and exhaust. With all the foam/mesh dust filter I believe I hit around 77 max on my cpu

[past bane]

Well thats great temps

Do you recommend anything better than arctic P fans?

Pwm pst co, as I mentioned

[flint sapphire]

Bang for the buck wise those are pretty much the best

I think I have a pic of my fan setup one sec

[frank stirrup]

Arctic f

[fossil cedar]

Why arctic f, arctic p are newer?

And have more cfm

[past bane]

Thats really nice

Why the noctua at the bottom?

[flint sapphire]

Lol my brother got the big old air cooler and couldn’t fit it in his case

Stole it from him

[past bane]

Ah okay hahah, the thing is

[frank stirrup]

Arctic f have better flow iirc

[past bane]

The bottom 120 fan can do its job properly if the HDD bays are removed

[frank stirrup]

P is for rads mainly

[past bane]

What is rads

[past bane]

Thats why I was considering 140’s

[flint sapphire]

Oh yeah, I have the drive cage removed only using ssd’s

[past bane]

Yeah so thats better

How much SSD do you have

[frank stirrup]

Radiators

[flint sapphire]

So I’m using 2 860 evos in raid and a 980 pro for boot and more frequent games

All of em are 1tb

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup p is for any obstruction not just rads

[past bane]

So CFM isnt important in that way?

[past bane]

Oh thats many

What mobo do you have

[flint sapphire]

I think it’s a msi carbon pro gaming w.e 570

Lol

[frank stirrup]

Yeah but as case fans f are also very nice

[past bane]

Yeah I dont know which to pick between the 2 haha

[past bane]

Aha okay then thanks

[frank stirrup]

Both are equally good for u imo

[past bane]

Just curiosity since I want to build my pc onto a similiar case of yours

Have you guys seen my build?

[frank stirrup]

Mine?

[past bane]

Darvans, he has a meshify c and I plan to buy a mesh 2 compact

The question marks are for not decided fully yet

Ill also get all of these parts for a discount except the cpu and cooler

[fossil cedar]

I suppose, little to no diff tho

[frank stirrup]

There do be a price difference tho iirc

[fossil cedar]

P12 cheaper and quieter iirc

[frank stirrup]

Sn550 for 127$ is yucky

[past bane]

Yes it is terrible, used to be 97 on discount

Its actually euros

[fossil cedar]

They live in small eu country, kosovo

[frank stirrup]

Go a-gf 750W imo

[past bane]

Really? Why is that

[fossil cedar]

@past bane what's the price difference between 650w and 750w

[past bane]

Let me see

112.50 euros

18 euros difference

[fossil cedar]

Ehh nah

[past bane]

Will the 650W not support my system fully?

[fossil cedar]

It will

750w just leaves headroom

See if enermax revolution 750w is there/how much it is?

[past bane]

There isnt any

Only enermax Maxpro

[fossil cedar]

Nope

Or you can also check phanteks amp or corsair rmx

[past bane]

Does the pcpartpicker calculate watt usage?

Maybe its not even close to 650w?

[fossil cedar]

It does technically but watt calculators assume stock and don't account for boosting or anything

650w is good up to a 3070 ti so you're fine

750w just gives more room

If you upgrade in future you wont have to buy a new psu etc

[flint sapphire]

I’m also using a 750w in my build we could match more

[past bane]

Yeah fortunatelt I wont upgrade

[past bane]

The wattage is 379

With a 3070, not ti

[fossil cedar]

The thing is psu's can easily last 10 years if not more, its one of the few select things you can bring over

[fossil cedar]

Lmao that's way too low

[past bane]

Based on pcpartpicker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYMYxc

[fossil cedar]

Yeah wattage calculators are dumb

[past bane]

Correct me if I placed something wrong

[flint sapphire]

It can definitely pull more at peak

[past bane]

Aha so where can I calculate it or how

[fossil cedar]

You can't really, all wattage calculators don't account for boosts or anything so just take Nvidias word for 3070 and get a 650w psu

Nvidia recommends 650w psu for 3060 ti and 3070 and 3070 ti iirc

[past bane]

Okay, does the gpu brand matter

[past bane]

Great

Is nvidia founders edition good?

Or a better question, what should i avoid on a 3060/ti/70

[fossil cedar]

Whatever you can get for closest to msrp

[past bane]

Do the fans matter?

I see a 3060 with one fan only

[past bane]

And are you saying this because of gpu shortage or did this rule always apply

[fossil cedar]

Bit of both

The only difference is the coolers soo

[fossil cedar]

Really? Link it

[past bane]

Sec

[fossil cedar]

Don't get a 3060 one fan if there is one, i didn't think their was

[past bane]

https://gjirafa50.com/cka-ka-tre/kartele-grafike-msi-geforce-rtx-3060-aero-itx-12g-oc-12gb-gddr6/

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[past bane]

https://gjirafa50.com/pjese-per-kompjutere/kartela-grafike/gaming/per-gaming/kartelë-grafike-palit-geforce-rtx-3060-stormx-12gb-gddr6/

[fossil cedar]

Okay just don't get a 1 fan

[past bane]

And if you want ti check the graphics card at my store

https://gjirafa50.com/pjese-per-kompjutere/kartela-grafike/gaming/?rel=1

Out of curiosity

[past bane]

Yes okay

Im aiming for 3

[flint sapphire]

Clearance in the meshify can get a bit tight

[fossil cedar]

3 is nice but 2 is fine

[past bane]

Based on the meshify specifications, it can fit a 300mm fine

[vague oracle]

VENTUS

[past bane]

Actually 341mm

[fossil cedar]

Well if possible, it just wont overclock well

[vague oracle]

I’ve seen corrosion build up in the heat sink on ventus cards

[fossil cedar]

Wth

[vague oracle]

Exactly

[flint sapphire]

I have a few extra centimeters of space on my old evga 1080 ftw 3

[past bane]

On your meshify c?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah

[past bane]

How big is your gpu and how much can the case fit

[flint sapphire]

Lemme look up the specs

[past bane]

Okay

[vague oracle]

That’s corrosion starting to happen in a 3080 ventus @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[past bane]

Those are supposed to be aluminium

[vague oracle]

The fact that is was just opened and it was like that

[fossil cedar]

Ngl ir looks like smoker dirt

[vague oracle]

The guy bought it brand new and sealed and he took it out and it was like that

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[past bane]

This is mesh 2 compact

This is mesh c

Apparwntly the mesh c is quite smaller

For the gpu

[fossil cedar]

It is

[flint sapphire]

315mm is case clearance

[vague oracle]

Glad I didn’t get the Meshify C then

Wouldn’t be able to fit my gpu

[past bane]

This is mesh c right

[flint sapphire]

Yessir

[past bane]

How big is your gpu

[past bane]

Where can i find the info you found for mesh c but for a mesh 2 compact

[vague oracle]

324mm

And it’s a 3 slot gpu

[past bane]

I believe it can fit your 3 slot gpu

[vague oracle]

Meshify C can’t

[fossil cedar]

Meshify 2 can

C can't

[past bane]

Aha okay then why did you say that youre glad that you didnt get compact? Or did you mean C ?

[vague oracle]

I meant C

[past bane]

You mean meshify 2 compact to be exact right

This naming man, too long hahaha

[fossil cedar]

They got a lian lin lancool ii mesh instead

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[vague oracle]

Lancool II Mesh is bae

[past bane]

I wish I could get that

There is none in stock or ever sold in my shop

[vague oracle]

Rip

[fossil cedar]

:'(

[past bane]

Yeah really sad tbh i like that case, its mechanism is amazing, not even mentioning airflow

[vague oracle]

At one point I was trying to get a small ATX build but I gave up on that because no cases were really that good

And I saw the Lancool II Mesh at microcenter and fell in love

[past bane]

Why didnt you buy one

[vague oracle]

I did

I bought 2 of them

[past bane]

…okay gahaha

[vague oracle]

I remember when I first saw the Lancool II online I didn’t like how there was a tempered glass panel on the cable side yet now I love it

[flint sapphire]

i gotta defend my lovely meshify C. Great to build in and a pretty small form with a lovely tinted side panel 😍

[jade scarab]

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE mATX Motherboard for AMD AM4 CPUs https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08BN8VD23/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_31ASXV3SRC5BYMY87NWD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Does this support the 5600x

Ryzen 5 5600x

[flint sapphire]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Does lancool ii mesh not have 360 top rad, sad :/

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[vague oracle]

Sad yeah

But it can fit a 280

We need a Lancool II Mesh XL

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

Yes

[past bane]

Guys any fans that are equally good or better than the p12 or p14 pwm pst co but with rgb?

[frank stirrup]

p12 argb

[past bane]

I think those are pwm pst but not co

Is the co important?

[frank stirrup]

nahh

[past bane]

Whats it for

[fleet pagoda]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-amp-holo lil expensive but its in stock ig

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[vague oracle]

Eew Zotac

[fossil cedar]

Zotac and 1800

[vague oracle]

I’d be willing to pay that much for maybe a strix or an Aorus master or elite, hell even a FTW3 ultra

But definitely not a Zotac card

[fleet pagoda]

Whats wrong w zotac cards

Besides price

[fossil cedar]

They have been known to forget things like thermal pads

[fleet pagoda]

Oof

[vague oracle]

And weird power limits

[fleet pagoda]

Well i bought a 3070 ti lets hope thats good

880 after tax

[fossil cedar]

That's fine i guess

Bit expensive tho

[fleet pagoda]

Still not sure if i wanna keep it or not i might cancel the order

[jagged ember]

Zotac hot

But fixable if u buy thermal pads

Its also a meme

[violet crown]

Mining ETC.... 4x rx580 red devil 8gb
Can't figure out the other 2 rx 580s

@vague oracle

[vague oracle]

Oh that’s really nice

[violet crown]

Thank you, it was my first build 4 years ago... still alive

[charred knot]

can you guys check this out
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Fvtht
I have the ssds, psu, and mobo so far.
the mobo is from a shuffle combo with a 3080ti that i am gonna try to trade for a 3070, so i am also willing to buy another mobo and sell current, if there are better suggestions
also still unsure about case, this is my first build and need to do more research about all my components fitting in

[earnest olive]

do not pay $530 for an i7-11700K man

that's just nonsense

if i were you i'd just sell the mobo and get a more reasonable i5-11400/b560 combo, you really don't need this much cpu and this much mobo for a 3070 FE

corsair ram kinda poop

[charred knot]

i was more talking about the build itself not the prices
i'll look into your combo suggestion thanks!
what would be your ram recommendation?

[earnest olive]

oh YIKES okay i just checked the prices on 11400

people buying them in droves now

if 11400 is $300 i think you might just want to go ryzen 5 5600x

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhWvMv

could do this instead

5600x, decent b550 board, 3600c16 ballistix ram

if you're not buying immediately i'd keep watching the price of i5-11400/11500 and see if their prices fall back to normal levels

at normal prices they are better value than the 5600x

[charred knot]

thanks for the help!
would this build still work if i can't find a trade for a 3070 and keep the 3080 ti?

[earnest olive]

yeah a 5600x is a fine pairing with a 3080ti tbh

[vague oracle]

For the case get a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

[queen dagger]

what would y’all say the best prebuilt for around 1600 is? asking for a friend who is looking to upgrade

[untold vessel]

Hey guys, I'm looking for ALL of your opinions on my most current build. What do you think of this?

***Will this build be able to Play AAA games at 4k60hz?

What fps do you estimate I might get? ***

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Znn47X

[charred knot]

thanks for the suggestion

[charred knot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cfr8Vc
after your guys' input
what can i change?

[earnest olive]

liquid cooling isn't really necessary on an i5-11400 but if you like the aesthetic or lower noise then it's not really a problem

[charred knot]

i would like the quiet doesn't have to be water cooled. any suggestions?

[earnest olive]

could just keep it as is

[charred knot]

alright, thanks for the help I appreciate it

[rich helm]

@earnest olive check Best Buy for 11400, usually stays regular price on there

[earnest olive]

honestly cant recommend a 3070ti for 4k AAA gaming

8gb vram makes it a 1440p card

[desert gulch]

At least it's better vram

Gddr6x

Instead of normal gddr6

[rich helm]

3080ti is best 4K card

Besides 3090

[desert gulch]

Nah gt710 is

[rich helm]

I mean I think gt710 can run a 4K screen

[desert gulch]

And games

It'll run cb2077 4k ultra with rtx on tbh

[earnest olive]

real talk i'd go 6900xt for 4K

if you can catch an AMD drop

3080ti should be fine too

[vague oracle]

Hell the 6800XT will still handle 4K but yeah 6900xt is the way to go

[earnest olive]

yeah 6800XT would do fine

6900XT technically lower priced than 3080ti though if you get it from amd direct

[vague oracle]

Yeah my 6800xt is getting about 70-80 FPS on high to ultra settings

[wide sparrow]

@silk harness specs?

[wide sparrow]

Great for 1440p to

[calm knot]

Can someone help me with my monitor it has a weird issue I don’t know why

[silk harness]

Thermaltake view 51 snow case
Asus x570 pro motherboard
Ryzen 7 5800x
Rog strix 3070 white edition
Rog strix cpu cooler
Corsair vengeance 16gb sticks
Thermaltake exhaust fans
Lian li pro cables
Corsiar 850w gold

[wide sparrow]

Beautiful pc

[silk harness]

thank you! im having issues with getting the rgb side but other than that its done

[silk harness]

whatcha got

[frank stirrup]

whats the issue tho

and what monitor

and what gpu

@calm knot

[scarlet rampart]

would this be a good ram to get?

[rich helm]

Nah team group ram is a little sketch

If you have a very tight budget then it would be fine though

Or an older cpu

[desert gulch]

False

Their dark pro stuff and select other stuff is actaully p good

[marsh kiln]

What would you guys price a computer with these specs?

I7 3770 l-12gb DDR3-Asus Maximum 5 - GTX 650Ti - 750gb hdd - 850w psu

There are the rest of the specs

[ancient wraith]

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME

[marsh kiln]

I can try what's up

[ancient wraith]

my friends pc says it needs a update but everytime he updates it windows says it couldnt complete and he cant use any windows related apps like microsoft store or game bar

[marsh kiln]

Sorry I can not help there I don't know to much about windows been fussy

[ancient wraith]

ok thanks man i might just reinstall

[desert gulch]

Tell him to restart the PC and check how much storage he has

[ancient wraith]

he has 20 gbs free

were wiondows is @desert gulch

[desert gulch]

Hmm

Restart PC?

[ancient wraith]

have lol

[potent portal]

#windows-ios message

[ancient wraith]

ok

[tough shell]

Is the basic geforce rtx 3080ti an ok gpu, or kinda poor due to having only one fan?

Or maybe im just blind/dumb and there is more than one fan?

[ancient wraith]

LMAO

[potent portal]

There's 2. One over the gpu die and one on the end for the paasthrough cooling.

[tough shell]

So assuming I can get my hands on one, is this a good gpu, or should I be looking for some from other companies?

[potent portal]

It'll get the job done. It's a surprisingly good cooler design.

[tough shell]

Cause my gpu legit wont even let me start my pc up past booting rn lol

Sounds good thanks

Im just hoping my pcie port isnt damaged from my dead gpu

😬

[potent portal]

Not likely, unless it sparked

[tough shell]

I dont think it did

[potent portal]

You'd see a small scorch mark by the slot of it did

[tough shell]

My first month of paycheques from work this fall will be going toward a new gpu then 😂

Would it be either top or bottom?

[potent portal]

On the slot itself. If it shorted or sparked you'd see it more to the left where the power pins are

[tough shell]

Oh. So id have to pull the gpu out to see?

[potent portal]

Yep. You can just look at it before you put in the new one though

[tough shell]

Yeah probably do that since this one is a pain

Wasnt even able to put all four screws in my fans onto my radiator when you helped me put it back together lmao

Into my bottom fan*

[potent portal]

2 is enough for a fan. A 240mm rad really only needs 2 or 3 also, depending on how much it sags.

It's best if they're diagonal from each other if there's only 2

[tough shell]

Yeah. Same idea as on a tire, haha

[cerulean trellis]

Does the xspc 8 way 12v 4 pin rgb splitter have a software so I can change the colors?I can’t find one.

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar @frank stirrup what’s ur opinion on this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mw82dD

[little osprey]

seems fine but i might swap the ram for crucial ballistix

[icy kestrel]

It is crucial

[little osprey]

Oh i thought i read corsair

Lmao oops, it should be good to go, i'd still wait for response from others though before buying

[meager nacelle]

Hey uh can someone help me out?

Is this enough thermal paste?

[potent portal]

Probably

[meager nacelle]

Lol how probably on a scale from 1-10

[potent portal]

Like an 8

[meager nacelle]

Alright I’ll take it

Thanks man

[potent portal]

You'll want a different cooler and a Z490/Z590 motherboard

Are you dead set on liquid cooling? Because a Scythe Fuma 2 will be enough cooling for cheaper

[potent portal]

Slightly more money but you'll be allowed to overclock, using that unlocked k processor to its potential. We call it the overclock tax.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C9tTLP

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzhpTJ better?

[potent portal]

So you're going for the white AIO look? Go for this one instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pYZzK8/lian-li-galahad-aio-240-rgb-6917-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-galahad-aio-240-rgb-white

[icy kestrel]

Yeah I originally had that but I wanted to save money but If it’s that much better I guess

[potent portal]

It's very noticeably better, one of the best we recommend

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lian-li-galahad-240-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler/6.html

[restive violet]

Hi! Newb question about bios versions. Is the F34 version on this website the stable one or is this a beta? Also the letters are meant for what? Thanks in advance.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-11/support#dl

[potent portal]

The letters are hexagonal notation, base 16 math instead of the base 10 you're used to. Base 16 counts 0-9 then A-F

In other words, it's another way of writing a version number

Looks like a standard bios release but it does have a beta agesa code, which isn't a bad thing

[icy kestrel]

Is this a good one

Hold on

[potent portal]

Yes, the Galahad is one of the best AIO coolers we recommend here. Possibly the best all white one.

[potent portal]

I know the Vetroo name but I've not seen that cooler before. Could be a rebrand.

[icy kestrel]

Should I get it?

[potent portal]

Checking reviews

I'll go down the list as I see things
The tubing isn't as tightly woven (so it can fray) and is a little short

Lighting looks nice

Only a 3 pin pump so no PWM control

Manual is a little iffy, not really beginner friendly

Not the best cooling but you get what you pay for there. Passable.

[icy kestrel]

I guess lian it is

[potent portal]

It's LOUD. 50 dB at 75%.

[icy kestrel]

Definitely lian the way

[potent portal]

For comparison the liquid freezer II (best of the best, still good price) is only 39 dB at 75%

Yeah I'd stick with the Lian Li for a white AIO

[meager nacelle]

Can I get a second look at what I just put together?

[potent portal]

Personally I would have rotated the fans so I couldn't see the cord as much and cable managed it behind the motherboard. Looks good though.

[icy kestrel]

What would be a good cheaper aio in any color

[frank stirrup]

Get an 11400 and a lian li galahad cooler to stick with the white theme

[icy kestrel]

11400 i5?

[frank stirrup]

If theres a letter after the numbers its a beta bios

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[icy kestrel]

It’s a little over budget

[frank stirrup]

You can get it at 180$

Its being scalped rn

[icy kestrel]

I’m tryna keep it around 1950 to leave room for tax to end around 2000

[frank stirrup]

Can you go to a micro center or a best buy

[icy kestrel]

Oh ok

[frank stirrup]

Get an 11400 from there

Itll be like 180$

Might take you a few days to find one in stock

But check with them over call daily

[icy kestrel]

Alright

[earnest olive]

wheres second monitor

[frank stirrup]

U took to put inside pc

[earnest olive]

oops

[potent portal]

You've asked this at least twice already

Do you plan to keep asking until you get the answer you want?

[untold vessel]

Check it out, It's my newest newest build. Changed 4 of the parts

[thorn wyvern]

No

[potent portal]

The link is the exact same as the previous 2 times

[untold vessel]

Hey guys, I need multiple, 2nd, 3rd, and maybe even 4th opinions on my absolute final build.

What fps do you estimate I might get playing AAA games at 4k60hz? Maybe I'd get 60fps? Maybe 30? What do you think I would get?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Znn47X

[thorn wyvern]

No

[potent portal]

4k60 is possible if you don't use high settings

[untold vessel]

thank you

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YmMNMv

@untold vessel

slight tweaks

Also 4k->1440 isnt a big jump in quality

I would go 1440p higher refresh rates

[potent portal]

1440 you can do higher fps and pixel density is good unless you're 6 inches away from the screen up to about, what, 35"?

[frank stirrup]

Think so yeah

4k only shows a difference on large monitors

[earnest olive]

does anyone here have a 30 series gpu and ANY asrock motherboard

[frank stirrup]

no ur beautiful

No u more

If im beautiful for eternity ur more beautiful than me

[potent portal]

You're both beautiful, ok?

[frank stirrup]

NO UR BEAUTIFUL

[flint sapphire]

Eh you’re all okay

The dark rock pro 4s screwdriver tho 😍

[frank stirrup]

uggy

[graceful star]

Hello. everyone.

Can any body help me whether NVMe SSD is working with AUS PN51 bare bone which has M.2 PCLe slot

[potent portal]

It should be compatible

[graceful star]

I am a kind of noob in technology

old generation

Thank you very much ^.^

[queen heath]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbgWp2 Will this build pair up with an rtx 3070?

[potent portal]

I'd go for 750W for a 3070

Faster memory too, like 3600 c16

[queen heath]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbgWp2

[earnest olive]

that board has issues with holding sustained unlocked power limits. unlikely to be an issue if purely gaming but it will adversely affect performance if you ever do productivity workloads such as video editing.

[queen heath]

The max motherboard can do is 3200 my budget is 2000.

[earnest olive]

3200 limit is nonsense

[queen heath]

Could you edit my build for better properties I'd appreciate it.

[earnest olive]

3200 is merely the official intel spec. gigabyte themselves advertises support for 5333.

[potent portal]

B560 can do whatever you want it to for memory

[earnest olive]

like i said. for pure gaming it won't be a problem. will you do any heavier productivity tasks?

[queen heath]

naw mostly gaming

[earnest olive]

understood, assuming you just want a board that won't hold it back in any situation regardless?

the lower end boards quickly become a disaster when running all-core loads...

third one is the wifi version of the board you selected. otherwise identical

[potent portal]

Avoid Asrock on Intel in general

[earnest olive]

ah, fal'cie, if only the problem was limited to asrock

[queen heath]

yessir I need a build for $2000 I was trying to buy a board for a good price because I heard overpriced boards have the same performance as base.

[earnest olive]

gigabyte, msi, asus, asrock, all of them

b560 is just a minefield in general

[potent portal]

True but Asrock is the worst offender, most of the boards are power limited by default and overheat if you unlock it

[queen heath]

@earnest olive I don't mind if you start from scratch my budget is $900 without GPU.

Unless you want me to try another build.

[earnest olive]

so i am actually going to recommend the asrock b560 pro4

unless you upgrade anytime soon, the b560 pro4 actually handles an i5 perfectly

[queen heath]

Is this build future proof like I can change cpu and GPU?

[earnest olive]

well

would you be upgrading to another 11th gen

[potent portal]

Both Intel and AMD are on their last series for the current sockets

[earnest olive]

cause this motherboard only supports 10th and 11th gen regardless

more likely your next upgrade wants a new motherboard

if you see yourself upgrading to an i7-11700k or something of the sort then no you will need a more expensive board

[queen heath]

@earnest olive yea I'd love a new board that's future proof

[earnest olive]

asrock b560 pro4 and msi b560m pro-vdh are both great choices for an i5 that come in at $130-135, the b560m pro-vdh is slightly cheaper but the b560 pro4 is a full size board that looks nicer for not much more money

if you want to be able to upgrade to high end 11th gen then go for a gigabyte z590 ud ac at $170

[queen heath]

The Alder Rocket Lake is around the corner.

[earnest olive]

there is no such thing as "future proof"

you cannot put alder lake into current motherboards

the maximum upgrade on a current intel motherboard is i9-11900K

[queen heath]

Oh I know I was just saying AMD and Intel are not on there last current stocks as a zen 3 and rocket alder lake is releasing.

[earnest olive]

well... that's not what he was saying

regardless of whether you buy intel or amd right now, both of them are getting a new socket next gen