building-and-recc-chat

[untold vessel]

At least until I get that 3070

[desert gulch]

go 11400

[tough shell]

you don't need a 10800k or whatever?

[untold vessel]

Why so?

[desert gulch]

kek

[tough shell]

just get something cheaper

lol

[untold vessel]

What will that do?

[desert gulch]

better gaming perf and itll save you money on motherboard

[jagged ember]

you didn't implement the gskill 3200 cl16 ram lol

[tough shell]

10800k is a board with integrated graphics

gskill is so good

[jagged ember]

3600mhz is more than intel will ever need

[rich helm]

If you aren’t over clocking 10600k is worthless

[tough shell]

exactly my point

[rich helm]

11400 time

[tough shell]

I got a 10900f and its more than what I need

cause I aint doing oc

[rich helm]

Yeah but the fun of oc tho

[jagged ember]

why not 11500?

like bob implemented before

[tough shell]

i'd be getting magical blue smoke

[desert gulch]

not big enough of a jump to justify extra price imo

[jagged ember]

oh, right i didn't see the price

[rich helm]

They ain’t using that extra gpu power and more expensive then 10600k

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think I should do?

[rich helm]

11400 then buy parts

[tough shell]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-la-beouf-just-do-it-motivation-gif-9226712

[jagged ember]

11400 is more expensive rn though

[rich helm]

Huh

[jagged ember]

as weird as that is, yeah

[desert gulch]

only 189.99

[jagged ember]

for me it's like 278

[rich helm]

Oh yeah it doesn’t check Best Buy for sone reason

[tough shell]

please, do make sure that cpu and mobo are compatible

[rich helm]

It’s in stock for 190 on Best Buy

[tough shell]

idk if yours are

didnt check

but yeah

[jagged ember]

oops

okay 11400 go

[desert gulch]

b560 and 11400 or 10600k?

uhh theyre compatible kek

[jagged ember]

much better price for 190

[tough shell]

ik

[untold vessel]

That's $50 more expensive than the 10600k

[tough shell]

i just wasnt sure what he was looking at

lol

[desert gulch]

best buy has it for $190

[tough shell]

why you NEED a 10600k?

if you're skimping for everything else, get a cpu that you can buy a good cooler for

and a good psu

[untold vessel]

Integrated graphics. Also, eventually, I plan to play AAA titles at 4k60fps

[rich helm]

Ehh the rest of this isn’t skimping besides case IMO

[desert gulch]

nothing is wrong with their psu...

[tough shell]

open air bench

[rich helm]

Ur going to want cpu upgrade either way lol, also 3070 isn’t that good at handling 4K gaming lol

[desert gulch]

nah 11400 can handle 4k 60 aslong as the gpu can

4k is much easier on cpu than 1080p

[rich helm]

Oh yeah rip my brain rn

[desert gulch]

but theyll need a 3080 to do 4k 60 in most stuff

unless they wanna drop the settings

[rich helm]

Doom eternal maybe?

[desert gulch]

maybe

or mc

ig a 3070 is able to handle mc 4k 60

[rich helm]

Most triple A games not tho

[tough shell]

smh

just play league

life solved

[desert gulch]

nah

[jagged ember]

yeah 11400 is way cheaper than a 10600k on BB

so

[rich helm]

Idk if a 3070 could do 60fps with rtx 4K

[tough shell]

you're now a toxic person tho xd

[fading oyster]

hey rawr so i just got windows installed on a flashdrive now what should i do?

[jagged ember]

i had an entire struggle of best buy locating me to somewhere near the Kamehameha Highway

[desert gulch]

yeah not happening

[jagged ember]

which i found out is actually in the us and it was fine the whole time

[rich helm]

My 3060ti only gets 100 on 1440p and 4k is so much more pixels

[desert gulch]

ye

[jagged ember]

i mean, there's DLSS

[rich helm]

100 is with dlss

[tough shell]

what is dlss?

[jagged ember]

just ai upscale it to 4k with rtx

oh, shoot

dayum

[desert gulch]

then its not real 4k tho

[jagged ember]

ehh

it's pretty close

[desert gulch]

cap

[jagged ember]

unless you really know where to look or you're actually paying attention to tiny details

which you really wont be in like doom eternal

rtx is nice but i don't notice it when im busy slaying

[rich helm]

Rtx Minecraft is hard to run lol

[jagged ember]

of all games lmao

[sand falcon]

Seus ptgi > Minecraft RTX

[untold vessel]

Okokokok

Guys

I got the NEWEST new link

What do you think of this:

**Hey! I'm trying to make my build as cheap as possible while still keeping 1 TB of SSD, 2 TBs of HDD. Could you guys check my build and recommend what improvements I can swap out / add? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXYWp2

*-I am not trying to Overclock.

-I am just using Integrated Graphics as of right now until the GPU market goes down in price. I'll just be playing Minecraft with no Mods or Visual Changers for right now.

-I am eventually going to get a 3070 GPU once the prices go down.

-I'll be using Ethernet.

Bottom Line, I'm trying to save as much money as possible and am willing to use different parts that have the same performance and reliability.***

[desert gulch]

literally the same thing youve been sending

[jagged ember]

wtf is that motherboard

[sand falcon]

What happened to the 11500?

[jagged ember]

and that, too

[desert gulch]

he doesnt take reccomendations

[jagged ember]

or the 11400 for that matter lol

[desert gulch]

just keeps posting the same list

[jagged ember]

rip wife

[untold vessel]

Have any cheap recommendations?

[jagged ember]

no more ray traced blocks

[sand falcon]

Weird ass motherboard, less than ideal CPU, expensive ram

[jagged ember]

why are you skimping on that lmao

[untold vessel]

The prices for the 11500 are too expensive

[jagged ember]

instead of cutting costs on cpu performance you won't use

[tough shell]

real question

[desert gulch]

11400 is literally cheaper bro

than 10600k

[tough shell]

is if you are so tight on money that you have to skimp so bad

[desert gulch]

but ok

[tough shell]

why you building a pc

[untold vessel]

Where?

[tough shell]

?

[desert gulch]

best buy

[jagged ember]

BEST BUY

[sand falcon]

It's more expensive because it's better

[untold vessel]

Need to cut costs

[desert gulch]

bruh

its still cheaper than your 10600k

if you wont take our reccomendations go out and buy your whole list

[sand falcon]

What's the max you want to spend

[tough shell]

@untold vessel why build a pc if you need to skimp so bad you can't make something that is usable. go get a job, make money, build a decent pc

[sand falcon]

I can make it fit

[untold vessel]

Could you please fix my list? I got like 8 people in one discord saying its good, 4 people in PC Master Race saying its good, you guys saying its bad, And I'm supuer confused

[sand falcon]

How much do you want to spend

[untold vessel]

Max is 1500 with GPU. I'm looking to get a 3070

[fading oyster]

guys

[desert gulch]

pcmr sucks

[untold vessel]

Figured

[sand falcon]

3070 is what, 500-600?

[untold vessel]

Welp, learn something new every day

[jagged ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6BrkX

[desert gulch]

same with reddit's build a pc

[desert gulch]

msrp, could be up to 800

[jagged ember]

the list bob put up there is alraedy good enough

[fading oyster]

guys if i just downloaded windows 10 on a flashdrive and it finished can i just unplug it?

[untold vessel]

yep

[desert gulch]

and me

[tough shell]

sort of as in only the techies

[jagged ember]

lol u not wrong

[desert gulch]

you forgot to mention me

[sand falcon]

Let's say you get the FE for 500 at bb

[untold vessel]

But I'm trying to make the budget more like $1,300

[tough shell]

you had it?

i wish I took electronics and programming in college

[sand falcon]

Wtf happened with case and PSU

[tough shell]

but im in an environmental management degree instead

[tough shell]

get obsidian 1000d series case, and a 3070. you need nothing else

LOL

rip

anyone know what the asus equivalent of dragon center is?

I just want to keep track of things such as pc temps

not rly looking to OC

wow

that's pritty sick

[untold vessel]

some people at pc part picker changed it

I legit need so much help lmfao

[tough shell]

at current prices, you could buy 1000board feet and a 3080ti

[jagged ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pfnG8J

[tough shell]

lol

[jagged ember]

oh, let me add the 500 dollar FE card into the list too

[tough shell]

lumber is insane, in canada 1000 board ft was going for over $1600 CAD or approx $1300 USD

[desert gulch]

change out ram

3600 c16 ballistix same price

[tough shell]

it's like people are trying to mine crypto using dimensional lumber

[jagged ember]

o

[tough shell]

imma dip for now, ttyl guys 🙂

[sand falcon]

Not sure how I feel about the supernova there

[tough shell]

good luck getting cera fixed 😂

[untold vessel]

How's it going so far?

[jagged ember]

mm supernova gt is low priority tier a

[desert gulch]

y

its good psu

[jagged ember]

preliminary searching did not yield ram of similar performance for the price

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DbTrkX

[jagged ember]

kekw my intel 111400 oops

too many 1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9wqvf

[frank stirrup]

Ssd is meh

[jagged ember]

he wanted to cut costs

preferably below 1300 so

[frank stirrup]

500gb sn550

[jagged ember]

he also wanted 1tb

ssd

[frank stirrup]

Ugh

[sand falcon]

Which is dumb

[frank stirrup]

I see

[jagged ember]

my 512 gb ssd still enough now lol

[sand falcon]

Screw it, I'm putting in a 500gb drive

[jagged ember]

still got 217gb left, thats an entire modern warfare game

[tough shell]

https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-hxi-series-hx1000i-1000w/p/N82E16817139082?nm_mc=KNC-MSNSearchCA&cm_mmc=KNC-MSNSearchCA-_-Power+Supplies-_-Corsair-_-9SIAHEBE3S2126&source=region&msclkid=3dc30a4e4e1618be9df56aa586297599&Item=9SIAHEBE3S2126 this is the psu the guy that made my computer gave me for no extra cost. would reccomend

[jagged ember]

we can't all get it for free though

[tough shell]

just steal someone else's

ez

but real talk, what psychopath pays $600.00 for a psu

0.o

[untold vessel]

Okay guys

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

There

[untold vessel]

I just talked through like 900 discords

What do you think of this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKKhQD

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

[untold vessel]

I'll cross reference these two

[tough shell]

take the ryzen from one

and the b560 from another

(not actually tho)

[jagged ember]

lmao changed nothing again

mobo go poof

[untold vessel]

brUHHHHH

Help me please lmfao

[jagged ember]

WE HAVE BEEN

Literally posting links

[untold vessel]

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING SO MANY THINGS

[sand falcon]

CPU is worse, motherboard is missing, ram is expensive, case could be cheaper, and SSD is overkill while also being meh

[untold vessel]

I don't know who to listen to

[sand falcon]

Us

Listen to us

[jagged ember]

Just make a list on microsoft word or something man

copy and paste

[sand falcon]

I'm a certified system administrator if that helps

[jagged ember]

bob gooder than me for sure

[untold vessel]

Sorry, here's the new link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kzX2dD

[jagged ember]

My List (11400) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9wqvf
Bob's List (11500): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

[untold vessel]

guys can we keep the 10600k please

It's cheaper

[jagged ember]

whY

[sand falcon]

No

Not worth

[untold vessel]

okokok why though

[jagged ember]

my 11400 is cheaper than that

[untold vessel]

Why so

[jagged ember]

also 11500 performs better

[untold vessel]

ok i like performance

[sand falcon]

11400 is cheaper, 11500 is way better

[untold vessel]

But how much is the cost uppage

[jagged ember]

62 bucks

if you really wanted to cut costs, 11400

[tough shell]

if you're looking at 62 bucks being a huge impact on your choices, you really might want to just save money and get a pc later

ngl

[sand falcon]

Between my list and your list, about 12 bucks

[untold vessel]

Oh that's not bad

and for 12 bucks more how much is the improvement

[sand falcon]

Did you look at my list at all lol

[untold vessel]

yes i did

[sand falcon]

Faster CPU, much faster GPU

PCIe 4

[jagged ember]

single core 11400 better

[tough shell]

so satisfying that it's green

[jagged ember]

multicore 10600k better but

that's the price you pay (or don't pay) to save costs

[untold vessel]

wait what

AHH

so which is better

10600k

OR

11500

[jagged ember]

11500 lol

[sand falcon]

11500

[untold vessel]

okokok

11500 it is

but now

[sand falcon]

Even the 11400 is better than the 10600k

[tough shell]

he could also get rid of the m.2 for a ssd connected using (I think they are) sata cables for cheaper, no?

[jagged ember]

i been talkin about the 11400 this whole time

[untold vessel]

Can we bring that SSD up to 1 tb again

[sand falcon]

No

[jagged ember]

but why tho

[untold vessel]

ok but why not

[jagged ember]

you have a 2tb storage drive

[untold vessel]

Yes

[sand falcon]

That's 50 dollars

Or more

[untold vessel]

wait 50 more?

[jagged ember]

it's also a 50 buck upgrade yeah

[sand falcon]

Yes

[untold vessel]

whewwwwwwww

okay then you guys are right

512 gb ssd it is

[tough shell]

what u gunna use a 500gb ssd for so quickly that you can't wait

until u have more $

[jagged ember]

500 is enough

[untold vessel]

nono you guys are right

okokok

SO

FINAL build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTZ2dD

[untold vessel]

This is Bobs

[jagged ember]

oooh bob with the mp34

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think

[sand falcon]

Yup

[tough shell]

I legit do 10hrs of homework a day using geographical imaging systems and only have like 1.5tb of saved stuff, my teacher did it for 8 years and had 4tb LOL

[sand falcon]

Mp34 in all budget systems, change my mind lol

[tough shell]

mind u, downloading COD or anything = rip 500gb

[jagged ember]

good list

COD is never touching an ssd

not in my system

GO TO THE HDD CORNER

[sand falcon]

Cod goes on HDD if you even install it

[tough shell]

I need to organize my drives

they kinda messy

like

REALLY REALLY awful

[jagged ember]

COD stupid big lol

MCC with everything up to halo 4 is 42gb

with H3 and Reach multiplayer only tho cause i only play those

[sand falcon]

ED that has an entire bloody galaxy, and is only 30gb or so

[jagged ember]

LOL TRUE

[tough shell]

gnite all

[jagged ember]

1:1 scale map of the entire milky way galaxy

[sand falcon]

R6, more maps and characters, ~80gb

[jagged ember]

Cod doin something wrong

we all know it

[plucky kiln]

do u think a 5600x and a 3070ti is a good match or a bottleneck

[sand falcon]

COD 300gb+

[sand falcon]

Very nice match

[jagged ember]

bottlenecks will always exist

but it's a good match

[plucky kiln]

alr ty

[sand falcon]

Could go 3080 if you want

[plucky kiln]

yeah but then stock issues

[jagged ember]

mm

[plucky kiln]

so i got what i can

luckily

[sand falcon]

Yeah

Nice

[plucky kiln]

snatched a 3070 ti

[untold vessel]

Why is COD 512GB

[jagged ember]

niice

[plucky kiln]

sadly it’s from zotac

[untold vessel]

not that i'll even play COD

[jagged ember]

COD is like 200gb lmao

[plucky kiln]

but then a 3070 ti is a 3070 ti i’ll take any gpu

[untold vessel]

but why and HOW in the world does it go above 512GB

[sand falcon]

COD is weird, we don't know

[jagged ember]

i think

[untold vessel]

damn, Jesus

[jagged ember]

unless they updated the size again

[untold vessel]

Welp, we made a $990 into a $690, so thank you SO much Bob!

[sand falcon]

Np lol

[jagged ember]

Best techie

[untold vessel]

Ok wait

One last thing

Can we get the 3200 ram up to 3600 ram

I don't mind brand

[sand falcon]

Nah

[untold vessel]

Just cost

[jagged ember]

intel won't need that high speed

[sand falcon]

Intel doesn't care that much

[untold vessel]

Why so?

[sand falcon]

Different MMU

[jagged ember]

idk about details, gotta ask bob about that

[untold vessel]

(I'm really, really new to all of this- please forgive me)

Ok

new question

what's MMU lol

[sand falcon]

Memory management unit, one of the few parts of a computer that's mostly a black box to me still.

Intel benefits from faster ram, but it's not anywhere near as much as AMD does

[plucky kiln]

what’s a good ram (4x8, preferably 3200 or 3600 speed)

[sand falcon]

What CPU, see above lol

[plucky kiln]

5600x

[sand falcon]

Go for 3600cl16 then

[plucky kiln]

do u have any specific models or brands

that u recommend

[sand falcon]

I'd probably lean more towards 2x16 over 4x8 too

[plucky kiln]

for future upgrades?

or

[sand falcon]

Upgrades and price

[plucky kiln]

ic

it’s bc i’m kind of going for the aesthetic side

[sand falcon]

Also it can make differences with memory speeds

[plucky kiln]

and 4x8 looks cleaner

[sand falcon]

Oooh, aesthetic

[plucky kiln]

yesss

[jagged ember]

there we go

[sand falcon]

Trident Z then

[jagged ember]

network is back to normal

[plucky kiln]

trident z?

okay ty

[sand falcon]

Best looking ram imo

[jagged ember]

or get one of those like rgb ram heatspreaders

[sand falcon]

Expensive, but dang does it look nice

[jagged ember]

the ones that make it look like you've got all 4 slots filled

[sand falcon]

I always forget about those lol

What brand is it that makes the 0gb dummy sticks?

[jagged ember]

✨aesthetic✨

I think thermaltake makes the heatspreader one

Idk about dummy modules

[plucky kiln]

ik corsair has dummy ones

i think

[frank stirrup]

@midnight stirrup You asked for suggestions in #build-pics. My biggest suggestion is throw out that nzxt H510 case

it is horrible and has little to no airflow

get a better case

[lime forge]

my suggestion is to monitor your temps and see if you actually would benefit from getting a case with better airflow instead of just instantly throwing it out...

i have a gtx 1070 vert mounted basically touching the glass in my corsair 275r (similar in terms of airflow) and my temps are fine

really nice setup though :)

congrats on the setup

[jagged ember]

An interesting way to set up the pc on the left and still see it

Would do what zach said tho

[frank stirrup]

No H510 is

burn them all

[untold vessel]

Can anybody find a cheaper compatible case for this? I absolutely do not care about looks. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJ2rkX

[scarlet rampart]

is it okay if i swap a ssd that I've been using on my old pc to my new pc

[desert gulch]

does it have windows on it or just files?

and will you use it for windows boot drive on new pc?

[scarlet rampart]

the ssd on my old pc still has everything all my games & all my files, i havent done anything to it, my new pc's ssd is completely new and all i did when i got the prebuilt was the windows setup

[untold vessel]

Alrighty everyone, what do you think of my build? Is there any other way I can optimize it? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FKL7xc

-I am not trying to Overclock.

-I am just using Integrated Graphics as of right now until the GPU market goes down in price. I'll just be playing Minecraft with no Mods or Visual Changers for right now.

-I am eventually going to get a 3070 GPU once the prices go down.

-I'll be using Ethernet.

Bottom Line, I'm trying to save as much money as possible and am willing to use different parts that have the same performance and reliability.

[fading oyster]

let's goooooooo

my pc is officially up and running

[lyric thistle]

Gaming

[jagged ember]

Time

[frank stirrup]

pog

[frank stirrup]

get an 11400 for 180$

[untold vessel]

Why so?

[frank stirrup]

ACTUALLY

[untold vessel]

what's the difference

[frank stirrup]

lemme fix it for u

[untold vessel]

yes tysm

please change into the mobo too

[frank stirrup]

cheaper and not too much difference

[untold vessel]

use the d3h

the gigabyte one

[fading oyster]

ayo

does anybody know if the fans are good on this case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YNdrxr/phanteks-eclipse-p360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dwt

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLNyMv
@untold vessel

[frank stirrup]

Its solid all around

[untold vessel]

could you please put back the ssd and change back to the cheap ram-- I also need the cheap cooler too

[frank stirrup]

Ahh I forgot ssd my bad

[fading oyster]

so look im getting 70 degrees C with this trash can omen cpu cooler but i dont have the money for an aio rn should i just get an air cpu cooler?

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2Dz3Z

there

[frank stirrup]

70C under load is very fine

no need to do anything tbh

[fading oyster]

oh my bad

that's ambient

not doing anything

temp of the room is fine too

[frank stirrup]

if ur ambient is 70C u should be long dead ngl

[fading oyster]

well not ambient but the intel stock cooler i had on my 10400 had better temps than this

all i had open was discord roblox and 2 chrome tabs

[frank stirrup]

How does it matter if overall costs are lower?

I mean ur asking me to put cheaper inferior parts even tho im under what the old one cost

[frank stirrup]

run cinebench all core

or smallest ffts prime95

[untold vessel]

hold on, so if you spend a little bit more, how much is the performance change? Drastic?

[frank stirrup]

for minecraft?

yes

[untold vessel]

Hmmm, okay, put the optimal parts in if it costs a little more

[jagged ember]

Oh wow

That list looks familiar

[frank stirrup]

I did

[jagged ember]

Its almost like weve already been here already

[frank stirrup]

.

[frank stirrup]

I operate on the same wavelength as pato when it comes to PCPP nowadays

I have my moments

[jagged ember]

No i mean me and bob already suggested similar parts

[frank stirrup]

I see

[jagged ember]

He said 11500 for better perf

I said 11400 for cheapies

[untold vessel]

Im going to level with you chief I have no idea what the heck to do

the 11600 costs less rn

[frank stirrup]

not werf it

[jagged ember]

Other than that our builds were the same

[untold vessel]

11500 is $276 while 11600 is $269.99

[jagged ember]

I liked my 11400 one though

[frank stirrup]

Thats at this moment... wait a week

[untold vessel]

I'm buying it now

[frank stirrup]

keep checking daily

[untold vessel]

like rn rn

[frank stirrup]

then go my list

[untold vessel]

As in I got that credit card in my hand

hmmm

[jagged ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9wqvf

This is what i went with

[frank stirrup]

u live near a microcenter?

[untold vessel]

sadly not

[frank stirrup]

kinda not great

[jagged ember]

He wanted to make it as cheap as possible

[frank stirrup]

IGP benefits from higher bandwidth

[jagged ember]

So what was i supoosed to do

[untold vessel]

Whats wrong with the Team T-Force

Besides brand name

Or what's wrong with Helix-L

[frank stirrup]

cas latency

[untold vessel]

Besides brand name

Oh cool

What's that?

[frank stirrup]

not great perf

[untold vessel]

(actually, i don't know)

[frank stirrup]

google

sn550 performs way better than a helix

[untold vessel]

uuhhh

The CAS latency is the delay between the time at which the column address and the column address strobe signal are presented to the memory module and the time at which the corresponding data is made available by the memory module. The desired row must already be active; if it is not, additional time is required.

so what does THIS mean

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah, he then conceded to a 500gb drive

[frank stirrup]

Also

[jagged ember]

I forgot

[frank stirrup]

u dont need to know

[jagged ember]

So yeah sn550 is fine

[frank stirrup]

its just slower

[untold vessel]

Ye I wanted a 1 tb ssd but I took the 512 instead

[frank stirrup]

thats all thats important

do u live near a best buy

[untold vessel]

I do

[frank stirrup]

@untold vessel

[untold vessel]

I do I do

[jagged ember]

Mm

[frank stirrup]

Ok then buy the 11400 from there

[jagged ember]

Then the list is fine

[frank stirrup]

its spensive online

[untold vessel]

But wait should I not get the Peerless Assassin for $17 less

[jagged ember]

Nothing i can find to complain about

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2Dz3Z

[untold vessel]

I've heard people on both sides of the Fuma Vs Peerless Assassin debate

[frank stirrup]

everything except the 11400 online

[untold vessel]

Some form Newegg some from pcpartpicker

what should I get?

[frank stirrup]

Fuma is a BEAST

[untold vessel]

Is it worth that extra $19?

And if so, how?

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[untold vessel]

or why rahter

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah its worth it

[untold vessel]

rather*

What's good about it?

[frank stirrup]

what makes a cooler better?

[jagged ember]

Basically a nh d15

[untold vessel]

Yeah!

What does make a cooler better

Faster fan?

Is that a thing?

[frank stirrup]

like literally the one point of a cpu cooler

[untold vessel]

Like more rpm?

[frank stirrup]

its ability to cool

[untold vessel]

orrr

[frank stirrup]

thats the answer

smh

[jagged ember]

Ye

[untold vessel]

Is it its shape?

I don't see how it's different

I want to see

But I don't see it how

[jagged ember]

You can look up cooler benchmarks...

[untold vessel]

Is it physically better?

Like it's shaping and 3d design?

[frank stirrup]

1. size of fin stacks and material used
2. number and size and also type of heatpipes
3. fan used

[untold vessel]

Hey man, I know you feel like I'm an idiot, and y'know, that's valid, I kind of am when it comes to this kind of stuff, So thank you for bearing with me

[frank stirrup]

TLDR the scythe fuma can cool an overclickes 10700k easily

[untold vessel]

Ahhhhh tysm

ok fuma it is!

[frank stirrup]

So yeah buy everything except the 11400 online

11400 microcenter

[frank stirrup]

MAKE SURE TO NOT BUY AN 11400F

[jagged ember]

but i guess we don't need that graph anymore haha

the F does NOT have integrated graphics

[jagged ember]

and that's the last thing you want

[untold vessel]

wait what

[jagged ember]

get the 11400, not the 11400f

[untold vessel]

wait DONT buy an 11400?

[frank stirrup]

its almost as good as an aio lol

[untold vessel]

Oh of course

[jagged ember]

because the 11400f does NOT have integrated graphics

[frank stirrup]

11400F

[untold vessel]

Yeah I need the igpu

[frank stirrup]

F means no igpu

[untold vessel]

yeah

[frank stirrup]

so normal 11400

[untold vessel]

K means overclocking compatible and such

[lyric thistle]

F means Frick why's it not working

[frank stirrup]

no letters at the end

[untold vessel]

okokok NORMAL 11400

[untold vessel]

lol

[jagged ember]

did they ever say what F actually stands for

[lyric thistle]

:)

[untold vessel]

yeah i looked it up wideus

[jagged ember]

other than paying respects

[untold vessel]

F

[frank stirrup]

frikin useless for troubleshooting

[untold vessel]

F for everyone's brains after they help me

[jagged ember]

well just go with what rawr did

good luck at microcenter whenever you go

[untold vessel]

Best buy

I have a microcenter but its 4 hours away

[untold vessel]

Do you know how the 11400 igpu vs 11600 igpu plays out?

[frank stirrup]

my nearest microcenter is 12-13 hours away by airplane

get on my level

[frank stirrup]

For minecraft not a lot

[untold vessel]

I might end up spending the extra $40 on gas by the time I get to the microcenter and back

[lyric thistle]

11500 has HD 750 right?

[jagged ember]

yeah

[frank stirrup]

yep

[lyric thistle]

Yea so the 11500 has the same igp as 11600, might as well use that for comparison instead of 11600

[frank stirrup]

doesnt make much of a difference in MC tho

[lyric thistle]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[jagged ember]

i mean, 11400 has the better igpu

10600k has the 630 while 11400 has the 730

[lyric thistle]

Interesting

Fr

That's wild xd

[jagged ember]

11500 has the best igpu of the bunch tho

[untold vessel]

Shouldddd I just get the 11500 instead then

[frank stirrup]

wont make a massive difference and its not werf it imo but if you get a goood deal at bestbuy go for it

[earnest olive]

it's worth 11500 igpu is massively better

[lyric thistle]

Oh misread as 11600K lol

[frank stirrup]

for minecraft?

he gonna play only vanilla minecraft

[earnest olive]

might make the difference between being able to use shaders and not

[jagged ember]

true

[frank stirrup]

fair

[lyric thistle]

Shaders fun

Prebby

[frank stirrup]

11500 is like 200-220$ max imo

[earnest olive]

im sure uhd 750 can run some light shaders at least

[jagged ember]

speaking of shaders time to check if optifine has new update

[frank stirrup]

wouldnt pay more

[jagged ember]

ay 2 versons more

[frank stirrup]

Waiting for 1.17.1

optifine

My server runs that

[jagged ember]

there is already 1.17.1

[frank stirrup]

WAIT WOOT

[jagged ember]

pre27

[frank stirrup]

SHEESH

[untold vessel]

alrighty so

basically

[frank stirrup]

ily wideus

[untold vessel]

if 11400's are sold out at my best buy

[jagged ember]

thanks

[frank stirrup]

11500

[untold vessel]

get the $267 11500 or 11600k?

they're both 267 rn

[jagged ember]

well if that actually happens definitely get the 11500

better igpu lol

[frank stirrup]

online or at bestbuy?

[untold vessel]

either

whatever's cheaper

[frank stirrup]

bestbuy an 11500

itll be cheaper

[fossil cedar]

Np, you too

[open oxide]

:D

[frank stirrup]

LMAO pato u got called sir

imagine being old

couldnt be me

[fossil cedar]

You're just jelly 😜

[frank stirrup]

Nah

I hate being called sir

makes me feel like a boomer

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/trouble-call-police-maam-wendys-fast-food-gif-17367948

[frank stirrup]

Is wednesday secretly wendysay

[fossil cedar]

Same but felt like they said it in nice way so idc

[frank stirrup]

I hate it regardless

[open oxide]

Chewsday

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Wait, like a week or 2, the i5 11400 will be back in stock for 189 soon and the 11500 back in stock for 220 soonish

[open oxide]

Hmm

[little osprey]

Is 850w really enough for 3090 or should I go to 1000w ? 🤔

I saw 11400in stock on bestbuy

[open oxide]

I think 1400 watts will be best?

[little osprey]

It's being in stock on Walmart frequently too

[frank stirrup]

told em

they said they are sitting with their credic card in hand

[fossil cedar]

1000w

[frank stirrup]

our brains really do be in sync pato

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[little osprey]

Lol

[open oxide]

Lmao

[little osprey]

I think so

[frank stirrup]

only thing is ur rank higher grrrrr

[little osprey]

Hardest part to pick is psu to me lol too many options

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-rawr-cute-punch-gif-14558168

[open oxide]

Bro which processor do you have or gonna buy?

[open oxide]

Oh

[little osprey]

I have 10700k right now and maybe I'll buy 10850k if i find very good deal or gonna hang out with it till 12th gen

[open oxide]

Oo

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078NL9SP3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_ESGHH33945DW4T11WRFS looking for this one right now

[frank stirrup]

I would wait till 12th gen

[open oxide]

I suggest a 1000 watt psu

From asus Rog

[frank stirrup]

the 11850h has made me hopeful about the new 10nm process

[frank stirrup]

ew

[open oxide]

Oh

[fossil cedar]

https://c.tenor.com/TcUuZ44P8U4AAAAM/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob.gif

[open oxide]

Sed

[frank stirrup]

crying

[little osprey]

Yeah 10700k is very power hungry cpu

[frank stirrup]

ive seen it pull 400W

moar even

[open oxide]

Sed

[fossil cedar]

Rmx 1000w imo

[fossil cedar]

Thermal take kinda ew

[little osprey]

Rmx looking good too 🤔 but I've been using thermaltake for a long time without any issue so idk lol

That grand rgb series is decent .. but their smart series is really eww

[open oxide]

Well a 850 watt is more than enough

According to whatpsu.com

[little osprey]

850w is recommended by nvidia and their test rig is with 10900k if I remember right

[fossil cedar]

Rmx v good psu, absolute a tier

[open oxide]

Oh

[fossil cedar]

For 3090? That thing has crazy power spikes i would just go 1000w

[frank stirrup]

10700k isnt a slouch in that department either

[open oxide]

Well that's also good cuz even you should not risk on PC

[little osprey]

Yeah I'll go for 1000w for extra room I think

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the oc i suppose

[frank stirrup]

450W spikes are sheesh

[frank stirrup]

tru

[little osprey]

My 10700k taking 120-140w without oc and I saw 200w with oc

[frank stirrup]

on a good unit a spike above the power output of the psu wouldnt do anything except a shutdown

[frank stirrup]

is that spike or what

[open oxide]

oh

[frank stirrup]

run prime95 small ffts

[open oxide]

btw

i got a doubt

which graphics card should i choose

[little osprey]

It just consuming that much

[little osprey]

Whatever you can find lol

[open oxide]

rtx 2060 or 3060

welp actually both are available

[little osprey]

Ofc 3060 if you can find good priced one

[fossil cedar]

The one that's closest to msrp and not a scam

[open oxide]

oh

ok

[frank stirrup]

thought so

[open oxide]

but its a prebuilt pc from newegg

[frank stirrup]

spikes shoot up to 300-400w easily

[open oxide]

oh

[frank stirrup]

3060=2060 super pretty much

[little osprey]

What thoughts about evga psus 🤔

[open oxide]

Hmm

[fossil cedar]

Then it depends on price of the 2, newegg have a 2060 prebuilt for 1050 iirc but the first 3060 is 1300, not worth the price increase

[fossil cedar]

Jusr remember 2060 super good bit better than 2060

[open oxide]

ok

[little osprey]

I have 40% off elite coupon from evga so Any a tier psu from evga ? 🤔

[fossil cedar]

They make some decent units but usually better for the price

[open oxide]

well

OMg i got a role

[frank stirrup]

O WAIT POOP

[open oxide]

thanks for role newegg

[frank stirrup]

I WAS WRITING AN EXAM

[open oxide]

sed

[frank stirrup]

why am I such a dumdum

lol

[vague oracle]

LMAO

[open oxide]

LMAO

[vague oracle]

Enermax Revolution DF =

[little osprey]

@open oxide lol they saying 700w enough ? Lol it's weird

[open oxide]

Yes

But i think its not gotta work

You’II need 850 to 1000 watt psu

[frank stirrup]

A-GF no slouch either for the price

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MKfp99/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr this one, but if coupon no work, rmx 1000w

[fossil cedar]

Caps at 850w tho :(

[open oxide]

Ok bye guys
Cya later

[fossil cedar]

Bye

[little osprey]

If i had 850w psu , I'd test it but mine is just 750w and it's about 4 years old so I need new one nd I probably gonna go for 1000w for extra room

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

Means you won't have to buy a new psu till that one breaks basically too

[little osprey]

Yeah that's why I looking for decent unit 🤔

My build is white actually but white psus are so expensive

[fossil cedar]

Will you even see psu?

[frank stirrup]

no

HAH get rekt

[little osprey]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-G6-1000-X1

[fossil cedar]

There is no white 1000w psu on pcpp

[fossil cedar]

Some cases you do

[open oxide]

bro

[little osprey]

Just one side .. and I can put sticker on it lol

[open oxide]

see build pics

[frank stirrup]

Time to whip out the spray paint

[open oxide]

there is actually a white psu

[fossil cedar]

Actually not on the list

[open oxide]

which is 1000 watt

[frank stirrup]

No no no like I refuse to look at ur psu

nerd

[little osprey]

@open oxide is that white one a tier ? 🤔

[fossil cedar]

@open oxide you can post pics here now btw

[open oxide]

???

[open oxide]

oh yeah i forgot

sed

[fossil cedar]

Yes

Focus gx is a tier

[frank stirrup]

Pato

ur an a tier

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

bruh how u gonna censor inda top left but have INR the currency visible...

[frank stirrup]

[open oxide]

Sad

I will do it again

One min

Sed

[little osprey]

Only g3 , g5 , g6 in stock on evga website🤔

[open oxide]

i think bro white psu in 1000 watt are rare

try getting it in local stores liek Walmart, Best Buy Etc…

[frank stirrup]

Also what difference does it make if someone finds out ur from india

its not like ur address is being leaked

just ur country

[lyric thistle]

billion people in India

[open oxide]

i really dont care lol

yes

Ok nevermind

[frank stirrup]

then why censor at all

[open oxide]

bro even my brother is chatting

like idk why

[frank stirrup]

including me lmao

[open oxide]

ok

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pubgmin_coming_soon-gif-20718169

[open oxide]

well

i dont play pubg

its bgmi Actually in india

[frank stirrup]

couldnt care less

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pubg-gif-18625783

[frank stirrup]

still couldnt care less

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pubg-pubg-mobile-emot-tertawa-laughing-gif-17663634

[frank stirrup]

NO

NO

NO

[fossil cedar]

G2 g3 are a tier iirc

[little osprey]

With coupon, it. Costs 140bucks whick is pretty cheap lol

[short geyser]

This good?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVypTJ

[vague oracle]

I just stopped by at some small tech shop in Poland and a 5600x roughly costs about $550 here

[little osprey]

Rip

[fossil cedar]

Theres no gpu and a intel chip with no integrated graphics, also the 11400 is way better, the ssd is a bit meh too, i would get the sn550

[frank stirrup]

change the ssd to an sn550

[short geyser]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

get an 11400 for 180$

[short geyser]

11400 not worth it rn, its 270

[little osprey]

And b560 mobo if you can

[frank stirrup]

I would get a kit of ballistix 3600c16 ram

[fossil cedar]

That's being scalped, it will go down to 189, where are you getting the 10400f for that price anyway?

[frank stirrup]

it is...

[fossil cedar]

That is b560

[frank stirrup]

best buy or microcenter my dude

[short geyser]

Micro center bc it takes 20$ off mobo

[fossil cedar]

Is the 11400 not at micro center?

If not get the 10400 non f, unless you already have a graphics card@short geyser

[frank stirrup]

11500 if no 11400 imo

[little osprey]

Sry I thought its b460 lol sry my bad

[frank stirrup]

better igpu anyway

[fossil cedar]

Well 11500 being scalped too

[frank stirrup]

10400 has a bad igpu

[fossil cedar]

True

[little osprey]

Actually 10600ka is for 190 on newegg

[frank stirrup]

bad igpu

[short geyser]

Micro center dont have 11400

[frank stirrup]

11500?

[short geyser]

10600k 11600k 10400f 10400

10400f is 140 and I have gpu

[fossil cedar]

That's fine then

[fossil cedar]

You didn't answer if you had a gpu or not lol so we had to assume you didn't cuz none in list

[little osprey]

Who needs igpu

[short geyser]

Ohh sorry abt that

[fossil cedar]

Is fine lol

@short geyser i would get an sn550 instead of the a60 ssd btw

[frank stirrup]

I would pay a little extra for a 10400

non f

[short geyser]

Yup just changed

[little osprey]

10400f is for 140$ is pretty good deal

[fossil cedar]

Not at micro, it's 180$ or something

[short geyser]

Have gpu

[frank stirrup]

Doesnt matter.

[short geyser]

Y

[frank stirrup]

the igpu can be VERY useful for troubleshooting

[short geyser]

I'll see

[fossil cedar]

Having igpu is nice for troubleshooting and other things like your igpu playing vids instead of your graphics card etc

[fossil cedar]

But it's not worth the extra 40$ at micro center

[short geyser]

Ya

[frank stirrup]

also if you edit and render out videos intel igpus help

make the rendering a lil faster in adobe premiere

premiere pato lol

[fossil cedar]

X)

[short geyser]

Over pricec everywhere

[little osprey]

Yeah cpu market also messed up right now

[marsh kiln]

When's the time we can buy gpus for 800 like people say you can?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the gpu, 3060, 3060 ti, 3070, 3070 ti, rn

@marsh kiln forget the pre tariff msrps

[marsh kiln]

3070

[short geyser]

This better?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrToast21/saved/gCxQP6

[fossil cedar]

You can buy 3070s for 650-800

[fossil cedar]

Nono, that drive is 💩

[short geyser]

Which

[fossil cedar]

The sata 256gb drive

Just get 1tb sn550

[vague oracle]

256Gb are pretty bad in general

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sD22dD@short geyser

7$ more, better drive and 250gb more

[marsh kiln]

From where?

[fossil cedar]

In the US, newegg shuffle, best buy, evga, amd.com if you don't mind going rx6800(xt)

[little osprey]

Also zotacstore Lol

[marsh kiln]

With it in stock

[vague oracle]

6800xt is bae

[short geyser]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrToast21/saved/gCxQP6

Can get it for 94$

[fossil cedar]

You needa wait for a drop

[fossil cedar]

Wdym can get it for 94$

[short geyser]

10$ coupon

[fossil cedar]

But get what lol?

[fossil cedar]

Looks good 👍

[short geyser]

Tysm for help

[fossil cedar]

Np

:)

[marsh kiln]

The newegg shuffle is a drawing there is almost no point for me to even try that

[fossil cedar]

Well you aint gonna get anything with that mindset jeez

[marsh kiln]

And none of the things on there are for 650 or 800

[fossil cedar]

Yes there are lol

3070s every few days in that price range

[vague oracle]

Huh Intel is dirt cheap here in Poland

Some processors are even below MSRP

[fossil cedar]

Probs just difff msrp for region lol

[vague oracle]

Probably

It’s weird

Intel is dirt cheap

Ryzen is like 2x US MSRP

[fossil cedar]

Mb the shop you're in hates ryzen xd

[vague oracle]

XD

[little osprey]

[fossil cedar]

Thanks for your input rommy XD

[queen dagger]

what should i buy on here? i got about $310. ram and NVMe? psu is a nono i already pretty much have it

[fossil cedar]

Wdym? You need ram and an nvme? Put all your parts in https://pcpartpicker.com/list

And tell what you're tryna do

[queen dagger]

oops i forgot it one min..

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z4pcp2

loil

[frank stirrup]

guy has been buying parts 1 at a time iirc

[queen dagger]

and yea i like to buy one at a time rlly

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[frank stirrup]

exactly

[fossil cedar]

Why you buy both monitors before motherboard

Cooler*

Buy the cooler and ram i guess

[queen dagger]

dont actually own the monitors just put them their so i remember and to make the price accurarte]

ik confusing

[fossil cedar]

Then why they marked as 0$

[queen dagger]

so theyt dont interfere with the build

the pricing

cuase i dont need them

i already do have a monitor

[fossil cedar]

I see i think

[queen dagger]

lol

[fossil cedar]

Also wdym psu is a nono

[queen dagger]

family is buying it when i go down to mass

microcenter*

[fossil cedar]

Wdym by that lol?

Ik you corrected yourself but still didn't clarify lol

[queen dagger]

later when i go down to microcenter my fmaily is buying it for me

cuase they cool

[vague oracle]

Do they know what model to get?

[fossil cedar]

The psu?

[vague oracle]

Or just any PSU off the shelf?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah give them the link for the revolution df because that's not in micro center?

[queen dagger]

is it not?

the more you know

[fossil cedar]

No lol micro center are pretty meh for everything but mobos cpus and gpus

They are usually ok for storage as they have sn550 etc but

Meh for everything esle

[little osprey]

sn550 !! ✊🏻

[queen dagger]

welp we'll see later in the year whatll happen

[fossil cedar]

Wdym? You're gonna let that stuff sit on a shelf for a year

[queen dagger]

like half a year yea

yea idk it its a great idea

[fossil cedar]

Whyyyy i mean it's not gonna damage anything, but if something is broken out the box you ain't gonna get an rma

[queen dagger]

im taking my chance and if something is doa then ill learn my lesson

[fossil cedar]

Gl

Imo just don't buy anything else yet till you have the money, at least if one of those are wack you'll be able to get money back

[queen dagger]

what should i try to get for a placeholder gpu of i cant find a 3080 for ok price

?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh i thought you already bought, that would be the first thing to buy before anything esle

Imo

[queen dagger]

nor wrong

oh uh do you know the fans that come with the Galahad? i cant find out for the life of me

[fossil cedar]

Nope lol, but just use the fans in the p500a for the rest imo

[queen dagger]

but mismatch fans

oh also anyone here play microsoft flight sim?

cause thast what i plan on playing at decent settings

[fossil cedar]

Get ek elite then imo, comes with 6 fans, can use the other 3 as case fans

[fossil cedar]

I don't but should be v nice on that

[queen dagger]

how does it perform compared to the galahad tho??

time to waste half an hour watching gamers nexus...

[fossil cedar]

Slightly better

[little osprey]

These are the only things not put in yet