building-and-recc-chat

[slender lance]

I may need a new part

[frank stirrup]

you 100% need a fan hub or 2 splitters

[icy kestrel]

Is air cooling Better than water?

[lyric thistle]

It depends

Cheaper water coolers perform terribly from what I hear

(Or not at all)

While a cheap air cooler will do you just fine

And a high end air cooler will do just as well or better than most mainline water coolers

You can get huge air coolers with two or three stacks of fins and several fans, or one big stack of fins, and they will sink a lot of heat

They can also take up a lot of space that you could free up by having a standard 240mm aio

[icy kestrel]

Nzxt kraken x63 is the one I’m thinking of getting

Is 600w ok for my power supply?

[frank stirrup]

depends on what components you have

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fB8wsX

These are the parts can you help me figure out the compatibility

[lyric thistle]

I like air coolers

[stoic island]

i don't like h510

[lyric thistle]

Probably best I have one in my computer with bare MOSFETs on the mobo

Downdraft cooler

[stoic island]

nor 10700k with an asus b560 board

nor nzxt aios

[slender lance]

@frank stirrup Requesting help again if you are still here.

[frank stirrup]

wassup

[earnest olive]

what help do you need

[slender lance]

So uhm I am going to start installing windows...and I realize that my bios is not recognizing my M.2 drive I have installed...

[earnest olive]

do you have a 500 series mobo with intel 10th gen cpu?

btw @frank stirrup look overclocking

[slender lance]

I realized that I had it in the wrong slot since the mobo instructions said SATA M.2 SSDs dont' work in it...even after I moved it to the correct one...I don't see it.

[slender lance]

Nope.
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi
AMD Ryzen 5 3500

[stoic island]

what ssd

[slender lance]

WB Blue 3D NAND M.2 2280 2TB

[stoic island]

and it's installed in the first slot?

[earnest olive]

only the M2A_SOCKET supports sata

[stoic island]

mhm

[slender lance]

Yea it is...I had to move it though because I had it in the wrong one

It was in M2B...now M2A

[stoic island]

Is it windows that doesn't detect the drive, or does the bios not detect the drive?

[earnest olive]

you sure you pushed it in all the way?

[stoic island]

Bios usually doesn't work without a drive

[earnest olive]

try reseating it

[earnest olive]

I haven't found this to be true on multiple boards

[slender lance]

It's the BIOS...I also tried to get windows to detect it while attempting to install windows...and it didn't see it

[stoic island]

I mean, half the time, boot led is something wrong with drive (Therefore, if you can get into bios, the drive works)

[earnest olive]

I've done boot tests without any drives attached on at least 8 boards

[slender lance]

I mean I don't want to break it by pushing too hard...but yea

[earnest olive]

try reseating it

[stoic island]

but well, who knows

[slender lance]

Okay I'll reseat it...but I have to take the gpu out to do so lol

[earnest olive]

taking out gpu takes about 30 seconds

[slender lance]

I also have a Seagate Barracuda 2TB here...but I have no power or plugs to it. Should I have it plugged in as well?

[stoic island]

No need for it at the moment

[earnest olive]

if it's not plugged in as far as the PC is concerned it doesn't exist

will not impact anything

[slender lance]

Alright...let me try and reseat...everyone hold on for a minute or two

Odd question...but does there have to be a screw on the end of it for it to work?

[earnest olive]

no but it's recommended

[frank stirrup]

no but its recommended

[earnest olive]

you owe me a soda

[frank stirrup]

HOW TYPE SO FATS

[earnest olive]

idk

i dont think i type that fast

just average for someone who uses computer as much as i do

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mountain-dew-soda-gif-12804089

[slender lance]

Because right now I have the screw holding the heat sink down...which holds the SSD down as well...not sure if there has to be a screw on the ssd as well

[earnest olive]

nope

if you have the heatsink on you're fine

[frank stirrup]

btw you have a standoff for the ssd yeah?

or is it just floating in the air

in the slot

[slender lance]

Yea there is a standoff where the screw goes in

[frank stirrup]

just screw it in fully

[slender lance]

Okee

[slender lance]

Just pulled it out and reattempting now

[frank stirrup]

LMAO

[south jewel]

[slender lance]

Ya no that is not at all what it looks like...nononono

[south jewel]

Poor ssd

[slender lance]

Alright I reseated it and I'm positive it is all of the way in...now what?

Check the bios again?

[frank stirrup]

turn it on

the pc

and get into the bios

[earnest olive]

yeah if it still doesn't work it is probably dead

[slender lance]

Okay I'm in the bios

no device found

no bootable device

[earnest olive]

how are you checking this btw?

on my aorus board it will display if something is connected in that slot

unsure if it's the same for b450

[slender lance]

I press F2 in the bios

and it takes me to easy mode which shows those 2 things

[frank stirrup]

go advanced

and then the 2nd last tab

at the top

[slender lance]

I am in advanced or regular now

okay

Okay I'm at the top

[slender lance]

And?

Uh oh...is rawr dead

[frank stirrup]

ye

[slender lance]

Mhmmm

[frank stirrup]

1 sec

lemme re alive

ok so are you on tej second last tab

[icy kestrel]

Every case I choose isn’t compatible with my motherboard

[frank stirrup]

at the top

[slender lance]

I'm just sitting here about to fall asleep on my keyboard at 1 AM because I worked an 8 hour shift at work today and I'm really tired

[frank stirrup]

last being the right most tab

[slender lance]

Yes yes I am there

[frank stirrup]

ok so send a pic

[slender lance]

kk one sec

[frank stirrup]

oh thats not the aorus bios

mb

check the system tab

tbh just plug in the windows 10 install media

and see if that detects the ssd

[slender lance]

It's supposed to be....

I have the B450 Aorus

[icy kestrel]

Can somebody please help me find a compatible case with the motherboard

[frank stirrup]

aorus

[frank stirrup]

cant if you dont tell me what mobo u have

[icy kestrel]

Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

[frank stirrup]

any case

[slender lance]

Yea..thats what I have

[frank stirrup]

thats why i assumed it would have the aorus bios

its an matx board

fits any atx case or matx case

[slender lance]

Well there is a disc in the box that supposedly has a bios on it...

[frank stirrup]

just boot off the win 10 installer

see if that does it

[slender lance]

It didn't when I tried before...but I can try again

[frank stirrup]

only itx cases is where you see problems with an matx board

[icy kestrel]

Part lister keeps saying that it’s not compatible

[frank stirrup]

what case are you looking at?

[slender lance]

Even when I turn it on...it says Aorus on the screen

[frank stirrup]

ill tell u if its compatible or not

[frank stirrup]

We can sort out the bios later just boot off the win 10 usb and see if that detects it

if the installer doesnt detect it ping sippy

I wont be there at that point

I gtg soon

[icy kestrel]

Tbh I don’t know anything about cases with mobos I’ve just been trying different cases

[slender lance]

Alright I'll do that I guess

[frank stirrup]

any atx case will fit

[slender lance]

Yea no it didn't show up in the installer

[frank stirrup]

I recommend the 4000D airflow

[slender lance]

Could the SSD need a driver?

[icy kestrel]

I put the nzxt H510 and it says

NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port that can connect to the Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard USB 3.2 Gen 1 header. A separate USB 3.2 Gen 1 to USB 3.2 Gen 2 header adapter will be required.

The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled.

[slender lance]

@frank stirrup Who am I supposed to ping?

[stoic island]

@slender lance SSD doesn't really take drivers

[earnest olive]

what motherboard

oh

wait that was already answered

[stoic island]

It's just USB c front panel

[earnest olive]

i see

[icy kestrel]

Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

[earnest olive]

that's what i was thinking

[stoic island]

Mhm

[little osprey]

where can i find replacement parts for laptops? im looking for a replacement battery for a latitude 3300 but i couldnt really find anything :/

[stoic island]

Also b560 board with 10th gen chip on some boards disables m.2_1 is p normal

Best bet is from the OEM themselves

[icy kestrel]

would I need to change my mono

Mobo

[stoic island]

Meh, none of it is great so...

Everything could be swapped

@slender lance not too familiar with gigabyte bios, but there should be a place somewhere that lists what devices are in each port, and see if you can take a screenshot of that and what it says for m.2_1

[slender lance]

Uhm I have no idea where that is

[stoic island]

Look around and see if you have anywhere that says anything about what drive is there

[slender lance]

Would it be under chipset?

[stoic island]

Not familiar with gigabyte bios, but it's worth just looking around

[slender lance]

Yea I have no idea

This is so frustrating

[stoic island]

Well, there's always just sleeping on it for tonight and work on it tomorrow

[slender lance]

I guess so...I probably won't be able to sleep though.

@stoic island @frank stirrup I'm not sure but I might have just done it...not exactly sure what I just did...but I think I did it...standby

[stoic island]

Nice

Sometimes some things just work because of factors you can't observe, so you kinda just accept it and move on :p

[slender lance]

I was watching a JayzTwoCents video on what to do after building and how to install windows..and he was using my same bios...so I changed my settings to match his even though he wasn't showing them...and it seems to be working...

I'll let you know what I did in a sec once I figure it out

Okay I know what I did now...

There were two settings:
Storage Boot Option Control
Other PCI Device ROM Priority

I don't remember what they said before, but I changed them both to: UEFI ONLY

That's what seemed to do it

[formal garnet]

When looking at M.2's what is a good metric to pick a good M.2?

[lyric thistle]

There's a couple different resources you can use as guides more or less, there should be a buying guide pinned in #storage-devices and there's a spreadsheet with more drives listed that used to be pinned, but you can still find it through a simple search on your favorite search engine

[formal garnet]

Thank you

[lyric thistle]

Yw

Lol

[frank stirrup]

Thats a horrible horrible case

Please dont do that to your poor pc

[icy kestrel]

What case do I get then

[stoic island]

4000d airflow for fairly similar looks but airflow

[lyric thistle]

The H510 could work if you have really strong fans right

[frank stirrup]

Already suggested it a while back

[frank stirrup]

Define strong

[lyric thistle]

Not gonna die on any Nzxt hill tho

Idk arctic p

[frank stirrup]

Like airplane turbine strong should keep it cool

[stoic island]

I mean, using the only 2 fan mounts that has real access to fans, then having to use delta fans, does not sound like a great tradeoff

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-windmills-wind-gif-4987636

Sausage turbine 😳

[stoic island]

Why

[frank stirrup]

Why

Just

Why

Also how are they not flopping

[icy kestrel]

@frank stirrup there’s always a problem with the mobo and case or it’s the mobo itself

[frank stirrup]

No its just pc part picker being wird

Send what you have rn

[icy kestrel]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

Ill take a look at it and edit it

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nhPDW3

Wait

That’s not the one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tv6Vp2

This is the one

[frank stirrup]

Uhh whats your budget

[icy kestrel]

1950

[frank stirrup]

That cpu and that mobo is sub optimal

[icy kestrel]

The graphics in getting from someone else

[frank stirrup]

Very very very not good

[icy kestrel]

The cooler?

You can change it if you want

Change anything you think needs to be changed

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget without the gpu? Btw

And what's the use case

[icy kestrel]

900

[fossil cedar]

What use case? Gaming

Jeez don't spend 1050 on a 3070

[icy kestrel]

I’m spending 878 from someone

[fossil cedar]

You're getting the 3070 for 878?

[icy kestrel]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

And what use case is the pc, gaming?

[icy kestrel]

Wdym

[fossil cedar]

What are you going to use the pc for?

[icy kestrel]

I can’t find a case for the mobo

[fossil cedar]

Also you are from the us right?

[icy kestrel]

There’s always something

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Ok just checking cuz it's late in the us rn some Europeans don't realise there's more than us pc part picker

Wdym you cant find a case?

[icy kestrel]

I want too find a white case so it’ll match the gpu and sticks

It says it’s not compatible everytime

[fossil cedar]

4000d airflow is compatible

What error is it saying

Oh the motherboard you have probs just doesn't have a usb c connection so the usb front panel wouldn't work

[fossil cedar]

The last one you can ignore

The first one you can also ignore

[icy kestrel]

So what about the third one

[lyric thistle]

Replace the motherboard with one that wasn't made by Asus

[fossil cedar]

The 2nd one is just a weird asus motherboard this gen with last gen cpu issue dw imma fix that

[icy kestrel]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

@icy kestrel do you want to overclock?

[icy kestrel]

Nah I don’t really understand it

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[frank stirrup]

Ignore

[fossil cedar]

@icy kestrel do you want wifi or something as well

[icy kestrel]

Nah ima use a Ethernet

[frank stirrup]

pato

[fossil cedar]

G

[frank stirrup]

what psu?

[fossil cedar]

Rawr

[frank stirrup]

for the pc

[fossil cedar]

I'm doing list 😎

[frank stirrup]

i have the rest in mind

[fossil cedar]

Revo amp or msi

[frank stirrup]

aight

750 good yeah?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

@icy kestrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LDyCz this is what i would do

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sD8kMv

Wait

forgot storage

hehe

[icy kestrel]

Woah woah my budgets 950

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2R8NP@icy kestrel actually this is what i would do

[icy kestrel]

Because I’m already getting the graphics

[fossil cedar]

You said 1950 including gpu

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sD8kMv

there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYrCYg

with fans

if want

[frank stirrup]

sn550 for that budget?

[icy kestrel]

Sorry 1850 minus the gpu so 972

I need everything but the graphics

[frank stirrup]

You said it was 1950 with gpu

[fossil cedar]

Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled. need diff mobo

[frank stirrup]

Nah

just dont use the top slot

its that easy

the 2nd slot works

[fossil cedar]

But you can get z490s that won't have that prob, no need for z59p

[frank stirrup]

yes but pcie gen 4

never bad to have

[fossil cedar]

Meh

[icy kestrel]

I’m getting a asus 3070 but not off there so I need to find a mobo compatible with that and the case

That’s been my problem

[fossil cedar]

@icy kestrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4D2LQD

[frank stirrup]

well yes but the z590 is cheaper than the z490

model to model

[fossil cedar]

Not my z490 😎

[frank stirrup]

Well thats because u smell funny

HAH!

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[frank stirrup]

z590 does have better vrms as well

[fossil cedar]

Meh

They don't wanna oc

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kgwnDc

this is what I would do

[frank stirrup]

Fair

[gloomy crystal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFb6Hz
How's this build for general work (Excel, word, etc.)?
I'm doing the build in india but i needed to make the list on pcpp us because pcpp india was gotten rid of.

[fossil cedar]

Do you need wifi?

[gloomy crystal]

Yes. I'm making this build for my dad and i tried convincing him to get something external but he isn't listening

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tjqJrr this is what i would do then, possibly add a gammaxx 400 cooler but for general stuff the stock cooler will do fine

@gloomy crystal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zdvF2V actually i would do this case as is cheaper and looks almost identical

[gloomy crystal]

Thank you @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab

Talk here

@jade scarab what is your budget and what country?

[jade scarab]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[jade scarab]

My budget is around 800 pounds I’m in. London

England

[fossil cedar]

Can you return your case?

[jade scarab]

Why should I return it

[fossil cedar]

Bad for the price

[jade scarab]

Is it a good case

[fossil cedar]

Not really

[jade scarab]

Yes really it is

[fossil cedar]

It's meh

[jade scarab]

Why is it bad

It’s very good for airflow keeps temps low

[jagged ember]

Just switch that to eu store

[jade scarab]

Also I don’t care bout noise no one gets bothered I have dealt with a PS4 for 3 years

[jagged ember]

And youre set basically

[fossil cedar]

It has meh airflow, fans are meh, too expensive for what it is

[jagged ember]

What case they want

[jade scarab]

The whole case is built for airflow

[fossil cedar]

Lol probs

[fossil cedar]

Corsair 220t

[jagged ember]

Huh

[jade scarab]

I already bought it

It comes with 3 Corsair fans I added 2 noctua Fans myself

[fossil cedar]

:(

[jade scarab]

I have 16 gb ddr4 ram and a Gigabyte auros elite b550m

[jagged ember]

Its alright

But that means you gotta use icue

[jade scarab]

I don’t mind

[jagged ember]

Its also got proprietary rgb connectors

So thats fun

[fossil cedar]

For your budget, return the motherboard

[jagged ember]

Otherwise its fine case

[fossil cedar]

You can't go amd on your budget

[jade scarab]

Bro I got everything for so cheap

[jagged ember]

But id get a p400a if it was cheaper

[jade scarab]

I spent under 100 for everything

So far

[fossil cedar]

That's not the point, amd don't have any cheap options

[jagged ember]

The cpu gonna cost you a lot

Its very expensive right now

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ put everything you got so far in this with the prices you paid for them

[jade scarab]

I spent so far 100 pounds on

16GB ddr4 ram
Gigabyte b550m
Corsair case Icue 220t
Fan splitters
2 noctua fans

[jagged ember]

Where that pilot e

Lol

[jade scarab]

Under 100 pounds for all of that

Your telling me it’s not worth it

[jagged ember]

Thats alright

[fossil cedar]

Sn550 Better

[jade scarab]

What you mean alright under 100 for that get that deal in your dreams

[jagged ember]

True 550 better rand

I might get it instead of sn750

[jade scarab]

Mate the Ryzen 7 3700 right now is 250 pounds

It’s 100 dollars off

[fossil cedar]

You said you paid 70 for just the case though you didn't say you bought anything else

[fossil cedar]

That's because it's old

[jagged ember]

The 9100f is 154 pounds

And its better at gaming

[jade scarab]

I done some stuff to get them cheap

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab do you have a graphics card?

I see

[jade scarab]

Nope planning to get a. 3060

[fossil cedar]

If you don't have a graphics card that you already own you just can't go amd

Or you'll have to wait till you get the 3060 to build

[jagged ember]

You need igpu to test if everything works

And to last you until you get a 3060

[fossil cedar]

Because amd has no integrated graphics

Also a 3700x is a bad cpu

[jade scarab]

Who uses integrated

[jagged ember]

Their new apus are also prebuilt only

[jade scarab]

That’s dead

[fossil cedar]

For gaming

[jagged ember]

Ha

Youd be suprised

In this current market almost everyone

[fossil cedar]

You need to when you're in the middle of a silicon shortage bro

[jagged ember]

Cause gpus are hard to get

[jade scarab]

Yh but I’ll wait lol

Idm

[fossil cedar]

Which exact ram kit and motherboard did you get btw?

[jagged ember]

Do you have like another compuuuteer for productivity?

Also 3700 is sad

Stomped on by 5600x

[fossil cedar]

It was good when it came out

But not now

[jagged ember]

Only slightly worse than 3700 in multicore

[jade scarab]

My ram is

Corsair VENGEANCELPX16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (Pc4-28800) C181.35V Desktop Memory - Black

[jagged ember]

My friend had the audacity to reccomend a 3700 over a 5600x lmao

[jade scarab]

And my motherboard is

[jagged ember]

Even though the 5600 was cheaper

Because MorE cOrEs

[jade scarab]

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE mATX Motherboard for AMD AM4 CPUs
GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE mATX Motherboard for AMD AM4 CPUs

[fossil cedar]

Okay

You're gonna be squeezing this into your budget i suppose

[jade scarab]

I already have them

Got them all for under 100

[fossil cedar]

Ik

That's why i said you'll be squeezing it in

[jade scarab]

Gonna buy a Keyboard called the Razor Blackwidow Lite for 25

Heard it’s good

[jagged ember]

Looks like ergonomics could use a bit of work on it

Otherwise it looks good

[jade scarab]

[jagged ember]

I miss him every day

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab you want to include the 3060 in this 800£ budget btw?

[jade scarab]

Yah man

A 3060 is 350

My cpu will be 250

My psu is 100

And yh im done ✅

I’ll buy a monitor for 100

Then we sorted

[fossil cedar]

Lollllllllllll no

[jagged ember]

Wow

[fossil cedar]

In your dreams 😂

[jagged ember]

That sounds very optimistic

[jade scarab]

It’s rrp is 350

[fossil cedar]

3060 is like 450

[jagged ember]

If you find one at 350

[fossil cedar]

Ye, but do you live under a rock

[jagged ember]

Good on you honestly

[jade scarab]

Mate I’m gonna wait till it’s all back to norma

[jagged ember]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab you will be waiting 1-2 years

[jagged ember]

Thats a couple years my friend

2 is optimistic imo

[fossil cedar]

Then your list will be wack

In 2 years time

[jagged ember]

And List will be outdated by then

Just cause covid go bye doesnt mean prices return to normal sadly

[jade scarab]

If the prices don’t go back to normal in 1-2 years I’ll have more than enough to buy one anyways

[fossil cedar]

You also need to yano cool that cpu

[jade scarab]

What’s that

[jagged ember]

And additionally

If any part is defectiver

[jade scarab]

What’s YANO COOL

[jagged ember]

You'd never know

And itd be way past return window

[jade scarab]

It’s never de deceive

[fossil cedar]

But then you need a new list lol

[jagged ember]

Uhh

Have you built a pc before?

[jade scarab]

Amazon items are never Defective

[jagged ember]

Or seen someone do it?

[fossil cedar]

Tbf those parts were clearly used

[jade scarab]

Nah I got them all from Amazon

[fossil cedar]

You need to, you know, cool the cpu

[jagged ember]

Okay thats fair but like theyd never know

[jade scarab]

I swear I have proof

[fossil cedar]

For 100£ lol

Mobo is 90£

[jade scarab]

Was gonna send you proof

[fossil cedar]

Ram is 66

Case is 80

[jagged ember]

If something comes broken

You cant return it in 1 year

[jade scarab]

Prime delivery

[jagged ember]

Which is something that does happen

[jade scarab]

I got prime delivery

[jagged ember]

?

What that means?

[jade scarab]

I got amazon prime delivery

[jagged ember]

Yeah but like

[jade scarab]

Not standard

[jagged ember]

What does that mean for the return window

[jade scarab]

That means nothing will be broken

99.9 per scent

[fossil cedar]

That's got nothing to do with anything lol

[jagged ember]

Nah fam

[frank stirrup]

u sniffing ur numbers?

[jagged ember]

Thats not how it works

[jade scarab]

I have a CPu cooler that will cool the cpu not whatever you said

[fossil cedar]

We aren't saying it's not gonna be broken, it will be just outdated af

[jagged ember]

Im saying its possible that parts arrive doa

[frank stirrup]

also prime delivery is nothing except less time taken to deliver

not a single thing more

[jade scarab]

This pc will last 7-6 years

[fossil cedar]

What cpu cooler, and i doubt it, the 5600x requires a chonky cpu cooler

[jade scarab]

Stock AMD

[fossil cedar]

Lmaoo

[jagged ember]

Oof

[jade scarab]

Cause it isn’t bad

[jagged ember]

Good luck

5600x hot

[jade scarab]

Atleast it isn’t intel stock cooler

[fossil cedar]

It isn't bad for a 3600 but the 5600x is sooooo much hotter

[jade scarab]

I ain’t getting a 5600x

I’m getting a 3060

[jagged ember]

?

[jade scarab]

And a Ryzen 7 3700x

[jagged ember]

Wat

[fossil cedar]

Yes you are, 5600x is the cpu

[jagged ember]

3700x not worth anymore

[fossil cedar]

Don't the 5600x is better and same price

[jade scarab]

It’s still good

[jagged ember]

If you can get better for the same price

[jade scarab]

What’s it called

[jagged ember]

I think youd go with the 5600x

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rX8kMv

[fossil cedar]

Not for gaming, only if you bought it 2 years ago

[jagged ember]

Pog

Even got the scythe fuma

[jade scarab]

Are you guys talking bout the Ryzen 5 5600x

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[jagged ember]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

I legit just gave you a list

[jagged ember]

Look at it

It is very good

[frank stirrup]

Whats the chance of OP being a troll

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rX8kMv LOOK AT THIS

[jade scarab]

Alright

[fossil cedar]

Hmmm can't tell

[frank stirrup]

fair lol

[fossil cedar]

Op? One person?

[jade scarab]

Msi psu ??

Lol

[frank stirrup]

original poster

[jagged ember]

One punch

[fossil cedar]

Yes because it's great wtf you mean lol

[jade scarab]

I’ll get the Corsair RM650w 80 gold 2021

[fossil cedar]

Ohhh

[frank stirrup]

its a reddit thing

[jagged ember]

What tier is it on the psu list

[fossil cedar]

It's more expensive 🤦 slightly worse

[jagged ember]

Im on mobile i cant go through the list lol

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab i would not put anything bad on your list ffs lol

[jade scarab]

Hope I am not being fooled with

[fossil cedar]

Why not? I make most of my builds on monile

[frank stirrup]

A

[fossil cedar]

Bro you're not

[jagged ember]

Sheesh

Then its a good psu

No cap

[fossil cedar]

I am build list god

[jagged ember]

Thanks, rawr

[fossil cedar]

X)

[frank stirrup]

If pato suggested a parts list i would buy it without going through it

[jagged ember]

I have yet to reach your level pato

In terms of build lists

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

thats how much I trust patos lists

[jagged ember]

I look anyways

And marvel at it lol

How you find such good parts at nice prices

[frank stirrup]

wideus

its a top tier A unit

[jagged ember]

Oh damn jesus

[fossil cedar]

Idk man

[frank stirrup]

multi rails and all

[jagged ember]

Its even multi rail

Thats very pog

[frank stirrup]

yep

[fossil cedar]

Hell yeah

[frank stirrup]

SWORE!

[jagged ember]

If you got time Pato, ill send you a list i was workin on for a friend

Maybe not now but later

[fossil cedar]

Msi apg, phanteks amp and enermax revolution df are my top price/perf psus

[fossil cedar]

Ofc

[jagged ember]

Itll be more of a uh, blueprint

[jade scarab]

Instead of a cooler I can spend a lil more and get a AIO

[frank stirrup]

Im decent with all other components but I usually ping pato for psu recommends

[jagged ember]

Cause my friend wont need one until her laptop dies

[jade scarab]

Plus The amd one is more than enough

[jagged ember]

Aio same as air cooler

[fossil cedar]

Yes but you were complaining about the price

[jagged ember]

So no point

[fossil cedar]

It's really not

[frank stirrup]

for the 5600x or the 3700x?

[jade scarab]

5600x

[fossil cedar]

Neither really

[jagged ember]

Well okay fair

[frank stirrup]

freezer ii

[jagged ember]

Or better

But thats an edge case

[jade scarab]

You guys are actually not toxic and it’s good

[jagged ember]

Usually theyre worse or equivalent

[jade scarab]

Actually helping

[jagged ember]

Oh i absolutely misread that kekw

[frank stirrup]

the one that comes with the 3700x is good enough... the one that comes with the 5600x struggles with a 3600x

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DP4kMv

[jagged ember]

my brain automatically read 'You guys are actually toxic and its good'

[jade scarab]

Take the ram and Motherboard out and case

[fossil cedar]

I mean it will work but r7/i7 tier just should not be running stock

[jade scarab]

Nvm

[frank stirrup]

we are tech nerds

[jade scarab]

I see

[fossil cedar]

Why? You already have it

[jade scarab]

Nvm

[jagged ember]

Is it marked as bought on the list

[fossil cedar]

Same lol

[jade scarab]

My friend just said the 5600x is good for gaming and the 3700x is good for productivity and gaming

[jagged ember]

Pff

[frank stirrup]

Fair fair but my point was that it does absolutely NEED an aftermarket cooler like the 5600x

[jagged ember]

3700x bad for gaming

[fossil cedar]

Only the 100 you paid is included in the price

[jagged ember]

5600x will stomp it easily

[jade scarab]

Wow I never knew that lol

[fossil cedar]

Ehh 3700x is good for gaming if you bought it 2 years ago

[jagged ember]

5600x is also only slightly worse 3700x in cinebench

[jade scarab]

I thought the 3700x was the master of all

[jagged ember]

Multicore

[fossil cedar]

No

[jade scarab]

Guess I’m wrong

[jagged ember]

It was good, but not anymore

[frank stirrup]

even then it was kinda meh price wise

[jade scarab]

So how long will the 5600x last me

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 9 5900x is the master of gaming and 5950x is the master of all

[jagged ember]

5600x should last a while

[fossil cedar]

A while

[jagged ember]

Id say couple years at least

[jade scarab]

Like 5 years ?

[frank stirrup]

I take that as a compliment in CS:GO

I am the master of all

get rekt nerds

[jagged ember]

Most likely 5 years

If it doesnt get 1usmused

[jade scarab]

Bro I’m mainly gonna play GTA RolePlay and cod

[fossil cedar]

This is a personal thing, you can keep it for 5 years but it will be lacking behind cpus in 5 years obvs i would keep it a happy 4 years anyway

[jade scarab]

Thanks for the advice you all helped me a lot

[jagged ember]

5600x will kill it in those games lol

[fossil cedar]

Np

[jagged ember]

Ur good

[frank stirrup]

I use an 11 year old laptop from time to time

not even kidding

[fossil cedar]

Lol, no you're 5950xt kek

[frank stirrup]

I AM THE MASTER OF ALL MASTERS. MY POWER IS CURRENTLY UN ACHIEVABLE.

[jade scarab]

Wait but the Ryzen 7 is 8core 16 thread and the 5600x is 6 core 12 threads

[fossil cedar]

My bro until like a month ago was using my old 8 year old i3 4gb ram laptop

[jagged ember]

We know

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[jade scarab]

How is it better

[desert gulch]

Correct

[frank stirrup]

faster cores vs slower cores

[jade scarab]

Can you help

[desert gulch]

Price

5600x cheaper

5800x hella expensive

[jagged ember]

5600x stomps it in most benchmarks

Except multicore it falls slightly behind

[fossil cedar]

They talking bout 3700x

[frank stirrup]

the 3700x and the 5600x are in question

[desert gulch]

O 3700x?

Sus

[jade scarab]

3700x has more threads and cores

[fossil cedar]

The 3700x has way slower cores and the 5600x has way faster cores, pretty much making up for the 2 less cores

[jagged ember]

Number of cores isnt everything

[desert gulch]

Doesn't mean it's better

[frank stirrup]

all of them are significantly slower

[jagged ember]

It funny how people automatically assume more is better

[desert gulch]

Architecture of CPU matters

[jagged ember]

Remember the first 6 core amd cpu?

The fx series?

Embarrassing

[jade scarab]

But I only want my pc for gaming and YouTube wich one should I for for

[fossil cedar]

It's a lot slower in single core performance (ie gaming) compared to a ryzen 5 5600x

[desert gulch]

5600x

[jagged ember]

5600x lol

[frank stirrup]

BOUTTA GO SET MY RAM TO 40 50 50 50 80

[jagged ember]

Its 8 pounds more

[fossil cedar]

5600x

[desert gulch]

Or go intel

And buy 11400

[jagged ember]

For ounces more perf

Or intel lol but

[frank stirrup]

bigger number better

[jagged ember]

You already have mobo

[fossil cedar]

They already got b550 we've been through this

[jade scarab]

Alright 5600x is unanimous winning

[fossil cedar]

@jade scarab just use the list i gave you

[desert gulch]

Ah didn't see that

[jagged ember]

It is stonks

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's been a roller coaster

[frank stirrup]

Ryan imagine being bad

JKJK ly

[jagged ember]

*ryzen imagine being bad

[frank stirrup]

hes intel

read da nam

[desert gulch]

*Intel being bad

[jagged ember]

Okay whatever

[desert gulch]

Smh

[jagged ember]

Sh

[fossil cedar]

I like the way you didn't change the # lol

[jagged ember]

[frank stirrup]

sara still needs to be freed

lili is free

[fossil cedar]

They're both here lol

Or at least they were

[frank stirrup]

were

sara got banned over some stupid reason again

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[jade scarab]

Alright then I’ll buy 5600

[frank stirrup]

Oh btw pato

when CS:GO

[frank stirrup]

pog

[jade scarab]

5600x for specific

Hope it’s good

[fossil cedar]

Yes it's amazing

[jade scarab]

My friend said it’s good

[fossil cedar]

It is, trust me, look at my rank, I'm a veteran like :)

[jade scarab]

It’s just the 3700x is better for productivity like editing

[fossil cedar]

Not by much

[fossil cedar]

Just barely beats the 5600x but are you even gonna do editing or something lol

[jade scarab]

I ain’t even gonna be editing

No

[fossil cedar]

Exactly

5600x

[jade scarab]

Gonna be playing games

[fossil cedar]

Gimme an hour I'm being very lazy today lol

[jade scarab]

Lol my friend got a 3700x recently gonna tell him this

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[jade scarab]

Wich ones better

[fossil cedar]

The 5600x will curb stomp the 3700x in games but the 3700x is slightly better in editing, blender etc

[jade scarab]

Is the 3700x better or 5600x

For games YouTube ext

[fossil cedar]

5600x

About 10 ppl have told you already lol

[jade scarab]

It’s my first pc my bad

[fossil cedar]

No but passmark its kinda unfair sometimes to compare different core amounts

[jade scarab]

I just want the best one for the best price I was about to buy the 3700x without knowing there was a cheaper and better one

[fossil cedar]

It's fine lol

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DP4kMv this is all you need to worry about, just buy all the things on here lol @jade scarab

[jade scarab]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

You hit buy and it brings you to the cheapest website for each product :)

[jade scarab]

That’s useful lol

[frank stirrup]

lol np pong me

[fossil cedar]

@turbid viper but yeah they're basically the same in multi core

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pong-video-game-atari-tennis-70s-gif-16894549

[jade scarab]

Park

Pato

[frank stirrup]

ping

[frank stirrup]

LMAO

[fossil cedar]

Ehh not in the uk lel

[frank stirrup]

I CALL YOU PARK NOW

[fossil cedar]

xd

[frank stirrup]

HELLO PARK

[fossil cedar]

Yes hmz

[fossil cedar]

Hi rar

[jade scarab]

Is the psu msi one better than this

Corsair RM650 (2021), RM Series, 650 Watt 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Dual EPS12V Connectors, Low-Noise Operation, Zero RPM Fan Mode, 105°C Capacitors, Modern Standby) Black

[frank stirrup]

by a lot

[fossil cedar]

Yes the one i have is better

[jade scarab]

Really I’d it fully modular

Is it

[fossil cedar]

I always put together everything the best for the price

Yep it is fully modular

[jade scarab]

Lol I don’t really see people using msi power suppies

[ancient shuttle]

hello, i'd like to ask, 3700x, is it the best for rendering/editting?

[fossil cedar]

It's kinda new and not popular yet

[frank stirrup]

those circled psus are the only ones better than the msi

[fossil cedar]

No, best is the ryzen 9 5950x

[frank stirrup]

Nope

[fossil cedar]

For consumer cpus

[frank stirrup]

And now it is

[fossil cedar]

If they're asking about 3700x they not going tr

[fossil cedar]

Lol yeah but it won't stay that way obvs

[frank stirrup]

who said threadripper is what I was thinking of?

[fossil cedar]

Epyc XD?

[frank stirrup]

nah nah like it is after you said consumer

[fossil cedar]

Fair lol

[frank stirrup]

7763

only 8k usd

[fossil cedar]

Only

[frank stirrup]

pocket change

[fossil cedar]

What a deal

[frank stirrup]

I sneeze 8k

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Want to give me some of your sneezes? In that case pls n tnx

[frank stirrup]

Uhh sure wait till allergy season tho

[jade scarab]

Yo

[fossil cedar]

Yo

[frank stirrup]

ill send like 20 sets of 8k sneeze particles your way

[fossil cedar]

Thank

[jade scarab]

Is that psu for the UK @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Yes the whole list is

[jade scarab]

London

Alright nice

[fossil cedar]

All the parts are for uk websites that deliver yeah@jade scarab

[jade scarab]

They 1st and all legit

?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[jade scarab]

First hand not second hand

Alright thanks

[fossil cedar]

They wouldn't be there if they weren't legit

[frank stirrup]

[neat reef]

um i just tried playing a game and it crashed and gave a bunch of errors saying stuff about graphics and it crashed chrome and gave me a black screen.. now nvidia control panel doesnt show when i right click the desktop and dxdiag says theres no graphics card

its just using windows

geforce experience is downloading a driver

the LED on the graphics card is on and theres no red light on the motherboard part status thing

hope getting this driver fixes it

can a game brick ur GPU?

its back

[fossil cedar]

only if you flash a new bios to the gpu thats the only chance of bricking it

[storm bison]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ6Vp2 Thinking about building my first PC, is this decent? I have a $2000 budget

[neat reef]

Ah ok cool, odd that a crash corrupted my GPU driver

So bad that it switched to integrated graphics on restart

Never had that happen

[static ravine]

ill give better list

give me a few mins

[fossil cedar]

That just means your gpu driver

[fossil cedar]

Uhhhhhh....

[static ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hxPdRT @storm bison

[desert gulch]

Ram and CPU cooler tho

[desert gulch]

Change case

[static ravine]

ok

[desert gulch]

Make sure to get the td500 mesh

Argb worse

[static ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LRyrF8

[desert gulch]

Good

[static ravine]

I didnt even realize

cl22 ram

for 100

[desert gulch]

Lol

And that CPU cooler

[desert gulch]

Intel stock cooler for k cpu

[meager nacelle]

Anyone know where these plug in?

[desert gulch]

What are they from?

[fossil cedar]

@storm bison https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7sBtGq

[vague oracle]

Left one is a fan header

[meager nacelle]

They’re my fan header

[vague oracle]

Right is an ARGB header

[meager nacelle]

Oh, so what do I do with them 😅

[fossil cedar]

Td500 non mesh and gl getting 3080 for 700 kek

[earnest olive]

left one is not a fan header

look at the label that says VDG

[desert gulch]

We changed it

[earnest olive]

Voltage Data Ground

[desert gulch]

Look beliw

[earnest olive]

it's a nonstandard argb header

[desert gulch]

I mentioned the mesh thing

[fossil cedar]

Ohh didn't see a new list

[desert gulch]

Ye

[vague oracle]

Oh didnt see the VDG

[earnest olive]

probably for the old gigabyte connector

pato

guess who is benching 3800c13

[desert gulch]

Not you

[meager nacelle]

Soo what do I do with it? Buy a standard header with the right connectors?

[vague oracle]

But yeah there should be a header on the motherboard for the ARGB

[earnest olive]

the one on the right is the standard header

you don't need to buy anything

just use the one on the right and ignore the one on the left

[vague oracle]

im pretty sure you can ignore the VDG

[fossil cedar]

Uwu

[meager nacelle]

Ah ok, if I sent a pic of my motherboard could you point me to where it plugs in?

[earnest olive]

they only provide the one on the left as an option for compatibility with older motherboards

[vague oracle]

yeah

[earnest olive]

it's a pretty distinctive header you really can't miss it

[earnest olive]

no other header has pins in that pattern

[earnest olive]

yup

[vague oracle]

Try to find the one on the right

[meager nacelle]

Oh then I’m missing it someone, I’ll keep looking

[earnest olive]

bruh that picture tiny

how are we gonna see individual pins

[vague oracle]

Top right

[meager nacelle]

You can click on it no?

[earnest olive]

idk I'm on my phone maybe it's better on desktop

[vague oracle]

Does the header in the top right has 3 pins?

[earnest olive]

yeah I see it on the top right

[vague oracle]

above the ram

[meager nacelle]

Yep, named Jrainbow1?

[vague oracle]

What mobo is it?

[meager nacelle]

MSI Z490-A Pro

[vague oracle]

Yep thats the one

Theres another one towards the bottom of the board

[meager nacelle]

Alr thanks, and I just leave the vdg cord alone?

[earnest olive]

yes

[vague oracle]

Yep

[earnest olive]

you can tie it back for cable management purposes

[meager nacelle]

Alright

[vague oracle]

And youll be able to use MSI's software to control the colors

[meager nacelle]

Alright

[earnest olive]

not the MSI software

[meager nacelle]

Hmm the fans still aren’t turning on

[earnest olive]

fans aren't turning on or lights aren't turning on

[meager nacelle]

No light or fan

[earnest olive]

wait

[meager nacelle]

Should my LED SW not being plugged in have something by to do with that

[frank stirrup]

What is going on here

[earnest olive]

do you have a cooler on the cpu lol

[meager nacelle]

Uh

[earnest olive]

or ram

[meager nacelle]

Nooo...

[earnest olive]

are you trying to

oh my god

[frank stirrup]

Ohhhh no

[earnest olive]

you're trying to turn on a system with no cooler or ram

bruh

[meager nacelle]

Wat, no I’m not that stupid 😉

[earnest olive]

no cpu power cable plugged in either

[meager nacelle]

Just trying to turn on the blinky lights and fans for now

[frank stirrup]

wink emoji says otherwise

[earnest olive]

the fans won't turn on if the system won't turn on

bro..

[frank stirrup]

no post without cpu or ram

[meager nacelle]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

no post is no anything

[meager nacelle]

I got ram plugged in but should I plug in the cpu cable?

[earnest olive]

get a cooler too

[frank stirrup]

do you have a cooler on that cpu

[meager nacelle]

I am... arriving tomorrow if Amazon doesn’t break it again

Nope .-.

[earnest olive]

don't try to turn it on without a cooler...

[frank stirrup]

then wait till tomorrow

[frank stirrup]

technically itll be fine but best not to

[meager nacelle]

I just wanted to turn on the fans so I could see if they worked

It’s a used case so just wanted to make sure it all works

[earnest olive]

I don't know where you got the idea to try turning on your system with no cpu cooler

but stop

please

stop

[meager nacelle]

I’m not trying to do it without a fan

[earnest olive]

a case fan is not going to keep a cpu cool with no heatsink on it...

[meager nacelle]

Yep ik

I just wanted to turn on the fans, nothing else

[earnest olive]

that's not how it works

[meager nacelle]

You can’t just plug in one thing and see if it works?

[earnest olive]

what do you think is managing the fan

[meager nacelle]

Dunno, this is all new to me

[earnest olive]

we already told you you can't just turn on the fan

please just wait 1 day

[green laurel]

i am currently getting vibration noise from rad and case i think that is what is from anyway cuz whenever i put pressure on the rad up top mounted it stops has anyone ever experienced this and done anything to fix it?

[earnest olive]

is it screwed in all the way

[meager nacelle]

So I either plug everything in at the same time to test everyone or everything off, can’t just test one thing

[earnest olive]

yes.

that's what we've been saying.

[meager nacelle]

Oh :>

[frank stirrup]

can you tie just 1 shoelace and expect not to trip and fall?

[meager nacelle]

Uh no?

[earnest olive]

can a human put on a shirt without a brain

[meager nacelle]

Without a brain is it a human .-.

[earnest olive]

cause you tryina see some shirt color without even plugging in the brain

[fossil cedar]

@meager nacelle if you turn on your pc with no heatsink at all, your cpu gonna be dead

[earnest olive]

exactly

[frank stirrup]

exactly

[earnest olive]

is it even a pc without a cpu

the answer is no

[frank stirrup]

you cant plug in half the stuff and expect the stuff you plugged in to work

[meager nacelle]

Oh, I didn’t think the cpu turns fans on and stuff

[fossil cedar]

Its just a p(iece of junk) without a cpu

[frank stirrup]

LMAO

[earnest olive]

😔

[meager nacelle]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

Sippy wanted to run something by you

[meager nacelle]

So I install my cpu cooler then I’m all good to test fans on the case?

[fossil cedar]

Your cpu is the brain and if the brain gets too hot 🔥, rip brain

[earnest olive]

sure

[fossil cedar]

Yes, even if you have a stock cooler it will do to test the fans but don't use nothing

[earnest olive]

what is it

[meager nacelle]

O

[frank stirrup]

theres a dell prebuilt in dads office that has a laptop style brick externally and a barrel connector going to the back of the pc

OCCT detects the 5v line outputting 3.75 and 12V line doing 9V

[meager nacelle]

A Fuma 2 is good to cool and overclocked I7 10700KF right?

[frank stirrup]

dead mobo?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[earnest olive]

uh

[meager nacelle]

Ah ok, thx duck

[earnest olive]

it probably just doesn't know how to interpret such a nonstandard power supply

[meager nacelle]

Or pato I mean

[earnest olive]

those power bricks usually use something like 19V

[fossil cedar]

Why bother running occt on a Office pc lol

[fossil cedar]

Np

[earnest olive]

if the system works then don't worry about it

[frank stirrup]

It was giving errors

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

[frank stirrup]

hence the once over

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[frank stirrup]

So windows starts up normally

when you log in its the taskbar mouse and black screen