building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Okay

I still think it would look small tho

That's an angled shot

[forest nexus]

A lot of the stuff coming from pc componentes will be a lot cheaper from tomorrow onwards

[forest nexus]

True

[fossil cedar]

Also mobo not really in focus lol

[fossil cedar]

Well we can have a look again tomorrow if ya want

[keen fractal]

my motherboard does not have an argb header how do i control the argb fans colors using the mobo software

should i buy this?

DEEPCOOL RGB Convertor, 5V ADD-RGB to 12V RGB Transfer Hub, Motherboard with 12V 4-pin Header can Contorl 5V ADD-RGB Products, Non-Compatible with Asrock Motherboard

[forest nexus]

alright

thanks again for all the help

[fossil cedar]

What motherboard do you have and can you link the hub thing you want?

[fossil cedar]

Np :)

[keen fractal]

i have b450m pro gaming

[keen fractal]

This?

[fossil cedar]

That's not a link lol

[keen fractal]

Ok

[keen fractal]

So should I buy that deepcool convertor?

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Idk you didn't link it to me

https://tenor.com/view/tableflip-cat-angry-mad-gif-3552726

[hallow glen]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[frank stirrup]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[little osprey]

So I think my RAM is busted

Will only underclock

Won't go to 3200MHz which is it's rated speed

[frank stirrup]

Is it corsair vengence ram?

[potent portal]

Are you using xmp or just changing the frequency?

[little osprey]

Frequency with everything else set to auto

[little osprey]

Yes

[potent portal]

Turn on xmp, that changes all the timings

[frank stirrup]

Vengeance is having issues with xmp as well

but yeah XMP is ur best bet

[little osprey]

This is new tho

I've had these for months

[frank stirrup]

Run at XMP

was the voltage at auto too?

[potent portal]

Then you've basically had them overclocked poorly for months

[little osprey]

Yes

[little osprey]

I wasn't even OC

[frank stirrup]

There is a chance you degraded

[little osprey]

They're factory speed is 3200MHz

[frank stirrup]

Nope

[little osprey]

It says 3200mhz on the sticks

[frank stirrup]

factory for all ddr4 is 2133

[frank stirrup]

thats the rated XMP

not factory

[potent portal]

That doesn't matter, it's rated for 3200 at certain timings, not the auto jedec timings

[frank stirrup]

XMP is also OC

[little osprey]

They should really state the factory speed on the boxes 😑

[potent portal]

According to Intel at least

[little osprey]

I'm AMD so....

[frank stirrup]

well anything over factory is technically an OC

[frank stirrup]

Changes 0 things

[little osprey]

Should I have started to have issues slowly, not instantly

[potent portal]

Not necessarily

[frank stirrup]

If you just set the sticks to 3200 and left voltage on auto there is a chance it was running em unsafe

[potent portal]

3200 at jedec (1.2v) is hard to run, could have degraded the controller

[frank stirrup]

which means you may have degraded something

[little osprey]

Well once I finish seting up my Gears of war, Fallout, and Mass Effect library I'll go to my bios

[frank stirrup]

OH ur in windows with 3200 mhz everything else auto?

[potent portal]

I'm willing to bet simply setting xmp on fixes it, plus a performance boost

[little osprey]

Yeah

[frank stirrup]

In that case download and run zentimings and send a pic

[little osprey]

Windows 10 pro

[frank stirrup]

We can check voltages

[little osprey]

It working now, but earlier my pc would flash like 5 times before it booted bios in safe mode

[frank stirrup]

https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

Download

run

send screenshot

@little osprey

[little osprey]

👍

[potent portal]

Might not show voltage depending on platform, mine only shows this

[potent portal]

2133 speed

That's jedec

[frank stirrup]

Yep thats factory default

[little osprey]

Restarting nkw

*now

Where for xmp?

[potent portal]

Hit F7

That'll turn on easy mode

There's a box for XMP

[frank stirrup]

DOCP

is asus alternative to XMP

if it doesnt boot with xmp u killed either the ram or the imc in cpu

[little osprey]

Ahh

Co i see more probles with asus components?

It's setting dram voltage to 1.35V

[frank stirrup]

Thats fine

[little osprey]

This is one of the few problems I've had

FEW

Besides price 😂

[frank stirrup]

Nope not asus this time

[little osprey]

This was an Asus board lol

I had a tuf gaming x570 😦

Asus Tuf x570 wifi

Something died in my PC and ended up having to send eerything back to start again as we could not identify what happened 😦

[little osprey]

Weren't you the one where we tested the PSU and another motherboard?

This week all new parts on there way so will call upon you experts to help build it 🙂

Bought open box last time right?

[frank stirrup]

Yep dont worry ping me and Ill do my best to help

[little osprey]

Yes Amazon sent me a board with an open bow

Now to download ryzen master

[frank stirrup]

I remember you had a really hard time with your first go

[little osprey]

Cheers guys

[frank stirrup]

Did it boot with DOCP?

[little osprey]

Yeah

Sent pic above

Tbh, I'm wanting to replace them and all my Corsair parts

Looking at the adata RGB ram or the Oloy warhawk RGB ram

Not a fan of the looks of the trident ram so plz don't recommend those

[frank stirrup]

try running TM5 on extreme anta config

to verify that nothing is erroring

[solid dust]

Ok, so I have some extra fans, is it worth is putting them in the bottom of my case?

[frank stirrup]

depends on the case

[little osprey]

Not really

[little osprey]

And the configuration too

[solid dust]

Like this

[frank stirrup]

can be changed

[little osprey]

True

[frank stirrup]

can make a difference

big too in some cases

[solid dust]

I already have 360 mm drawing in the front, and then 240 out the top and a 120 out the back

With the lancool ii mesh

[little osprey]

Probably not too much difference in that case

You have equal airflow rn

[solid dust]

A picture is going through

[little osprey]

If it's at the bottom, out would be the safe bet in my opinion

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix actually has jdec of 2666 but that's rare lol

[solid dust]

Like this drawing in

[frank stirrup]

I see

[fossil cedar]

Factory speed for every ddr4 stick is the same tho lol bar the odd few

[solid dust]

Mine factory had 2666

[fossil cedar]

What ram?

[solid dust]

Oloy Warhawk

Don’t buy it

[fossil cedar]

2666 is max factory tho

[solid dust]

They are 2.6 inches tall lmao

[desert gulch]

Bruhhh

[fossil cedar]

Fair play to oloy lol

[desert gulch]

They atleast got RGB tho?

[solid dust]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Afaik warhawk does ye

[desert gulch]

Nice

[solid dust]

They look badass but you can’t have a top rad

[desert gulch]

That's an extra %15 perf atleast just because of the rgb

[frank stirrup]

all those are jdec

[fossil cedar]

Tall af

[solid dust]

You can sync them with whatever colors you want though which is neat

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[little osprey]

I want those

[solid dust]

I got them on sale for 120

32 gigs 3200, 16 latency

[little osprey]

Yeah they're an affordable brand

[solid dust]

Enabling xmp was super weird though, I had to go through a bunch of different menus

And over clocking them does not void the warranty!

They even encourage you too, they walked me through it on they’re website since you can’t just type it in

[little osprey]

Yep

[deft harbor]

does anyone knoow a good $700-800 prebilt pc

[little osprey]

Nope

Not for that price

Maybe a Dell, but nothing decent

[muted patio]

I found an acer actually, lemme see if it's still available

AH, it's sold out

[deft harbor]

so basically cant do anything rn

[fossil cedar]

Hold on there was a hp on newegg iirc

[desert gulch]

Eww hp

Hp bad

I'd go for anything other than a dell or hp

[deft harbor]

so what should i bump my budget to

[desert gulch]

Idk

The Acer one was pretty pog tbh too, sad it's sold out

I'm guessing I'm thinking of the same on vintage was talking abt

[deft harbor]

so any $1000 prebuilts

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491/p/N82E16883360086?itemPosition=1-9&exactIndex=5

The hp one was gone

[deft harbor]

thank u so much for helping me

also i have another question. will i be able to change some parts in the future

[desert gulch]

On this one yes

[deft harbor]

ok thx

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Hp and dell mainly are unable to change out parts on tho

But most other PCs should be able to

[deft harbor]

ok

[still roost]

Milk#1025 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deft harbor]

hey for this pc should i change the storage and memory

[ancient wraith]

Are these good

[little osprey]

I like cryorigs, be quiet, and thermaltake

[muted patio]

Arctic makes great fans

[little osprey]

Noctura is the Linus tech bandwagon rn

[muted patio]

Just not sure about the temp control part

[little osprey]

Probably the rpm control

[muted patio]

I can't wait to see GN's new fan machine tests

[fossil cedar]

Nah

[muted patio]

finally we'll be able to see what's overpriced and not

[little osprey]

I might switch to cryorig

Would've done so if they had RGB fans 😢😢

[muted patio]

Arctic has RGB fans now

😉

[fossil cedar]

Tbf noctua have been popular for yearsssss

[deft harbor]

or should i build my own

[little osprey]

But they aren't cryorig 😉

[little osprey]

Building is the best bet, but issue rn I'd getting a GPU fur a decent price

[deft harbor]

ok

well im still saving up

[fossil cedar]

You could but gpus are impossible to get atm

[little osprey]

I saw a 780ti for $150 on FB earlier

But that's it that isn't being scalped rn

[deft harbor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6x2CRT is this a good list

[fossil cedar]

Advice won't be valid if you're not looking for another month or 2

Nah, i5 11400

B560 board

3600cl16 ballistix

You need an SSD don't be silly

[little osprey]

Nvidia really shouldn't have ended the 2000 series production tbh

Waaayyyy to early

[muted patio]

When you can't get fab space from TSMC you have no choice XD

[little osprey]

True

[deft harbor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jH8BBc better?

[deft harbor]

also what cooler do i use for the 11400

[muted patio]

11400 seems to be overpriced in that build, should be cheaper. Hold out for a better price. For a cooler, get an ID Cooling SSE 224 XT.

Processor should be $180-190 once back in stock, shouldn't be long

[calm dove]

Better than hyper212 ?

[muted patio]

Yes

For less money

[calm dove]

Nice

[muted patio]

Hyper 212 over rated

and expensive at $40

[calm dove]

Yeah

[muted patio]

I have one on my wifes 10600K it's doing great

[deft harbor]

also is the corsair 4000d airflow any good

[muted patio]

My issue with it is the solid front panel

Limits airflow

[deft harbor]

buts its still god for $75 right?

good*

[muted patio]

$75?

Should be Ok

[deft harbor]

so here is my new and improved list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfxMW3

is it good

[calm dove]

Why windows

[deft harbor]

?

[calm dove]

Its free

[deft harbor]

oh it is?

[muted patio]

if you don't activate it, or get a key on Ebay

[deft harbor]

how do i get it free

[muted patio]

Can't customise if you don't activate it though

[echo vale]

dont get it free

u can get it for like 20 bucks

[deft harbor]

oh i kinda want ot customize

[muted patio]

Just get a key on Ebay

[echo vale]

mhmm

[deft harbor]

is it legit

[echo vale]

yes it is

[deft harbor]

ok

[echo vale]

if u get the free one youre gonna have a activate windows for free watermark on your desktop for like 5 years

even while you play games or productivity stuff

[deft harbor]

so is my list good now

[calm dove]

1500$

Wow

[deft harbor]

thats cuz of the gpu

[muted patio]

Oh dear lord

[echo vale]

lmfao

[muted patio]

What are you REALLY paying for that GPU?

Edit the price XD

[echo vale]

yea thats a hella op gpu

[deft harbor]

herehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXVzVc

[muted patio]

Still not worth

[muted patio]

Yo aren't paying $600 fora 1660 right?

[deft harbor]

no im waiting until prices drop down

[calm dove]

2025 ?

[deft harbor]

well i dont know

[echo vale]

just by eveyrthing except the gpu lol

[deft harbor]

ok

[echo vale]

theres the bang for ur buck option

[calm dove]

If you wait until prices drop

[deft harbor]

it all cost $800 without gpu

[calm dove]

You will buy another gpu with this budget

[muted patio]

I'm old

[deft harbor]

?

[calm dove]

Your budget ?

[deft harbor]

$1000-1100

[still roost]

the#1355 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[calm dove]

If the prices drop u can get a 3060 or ti with this budget

[deft harbor]

okay

well i dont know what budgets to cut

me and u have the same budget we should build the same thing😀

can u share it

[calm dove]

Gtx 750

No

Price ?

?

Okey

The gpu is oooooold

[deft harbor]

so would i be able to get a 3060

[calm dove]

Now ?

No

[deft harbor]

no later

[calm dove]

Maybe

[outer cove]

is 1k joules enough for basic surge protection if lightning storms dont happen at all in my area

[little osprey]

Evos are generally over priced

Also do you have a reliable way to getting that gpu for msrp or?

.

[deft harbor]

so how do i get a GPU for a gppd price

[little osprey]

@deft harbor get a camp fire and sit outside of micro center for two weeks

Watch Best Buy and ryzen site like a hawk and hope to get lucky

And entering Newegg shuffle won’t hurt

[deft harbor]

haha lol

i might just buy all my other stuff and then wait

[little osprey]

Exactly what I did

I already had a 580 4gb from old prebuilt so it worked out kind of

[deft harbor]

this is all my stuff without the gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bDnv9N

also what gpu should i get with my stuff

lol

[little osprey]

You can buy one for scalp price but it’s gonna cost a pretty penny obviously, waiting for prices to drop probably will be 1-3 years so take what u want

@deft harbor Idk 2070 2080 3060 3070 or the equivalent for amd

Maybe 3080 if u get it for a good price but kinda depends on whatever u can get

Or any 6000 series amd card

[deft harbor]

ima get 3060

[little osprey]

If you can

Ok

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/asiahorse-fs-9002-3pack-case-fan-accessory/p/1YF-00SS-00040?Item=9SIAJ00D694475&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAJ00D694475-_-06192021

Are these good?

Trying to cut down on cords while still doing RGB

[desert gulch]

I'd rather the p12 rgb tbh, same price just about just a better fan

Won't be as RGB tho

[little osprey]

Is it the same style?

[desert gulch]

Kinda

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-PST-RGB/dp/B08Y8N5J89?th=1&psc=1

[little osprey]

Looking for one that has three integrated into one

Less cords remember?

[desert gulch]

Hubs exist

[little osprey]

Yeah, but you still have 3 power and 3 RGB cords

The one I linked has one power and one RGB cord

[desert gulch]

I mean yeah but if you just used a hub you'd only have 2 cords visible for all your fans

Since hub goes where you can't see it

[little osprey]

I have one rn

[desert gulch]

Then a few extra cables wouldn't rly hurt

[little osprey]

It's more the pain of trying to route them easily and not get them tangled

[little osprey]

What would be the best way to put the loop

Looks good to me

Can the front panel of your case come off?

[little osprey]

It’s a door

So yes

You can put your fans outside and then your radiator inside with tubes at the top

That dosent make sense

Clarify

Wym by outside

Your saying put the radiator at the top or?

Give me a sec

Outside, then screw the rad inside the case to the fans

[eternal mesa]

@little osprey

[marble whale]

Is 500gbs good for a laptop?

[spiral flame]

what are you doing with it?

has anyone gotten you newegg shuffle email I haven't

[fallen torrent]

i get emails that i haven't been selected every day

[spiral flame]

same just no email for todays yet

[little osprey]

Yes?

[marble whale]

@spiral flame light gaming and browsing the web

[little osprey]

Just finished my pc, it won’t turn on, psu won’t start spinning, what could I have not plugged in right

Lmao

[spiral flame]

It is most likely gonna be enough

[shrewd fjord]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala247/p/N82E16883360151?Item=N82E16883360151&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-151-_-06192021

Tell me if it's worth it

[little osprey]

If I manually click the little power botton on the motherboard it turns on

But not the botton

Idk

[muted patio]

Then your front panel button isn't connected properly

[shrewd fjord]

@muted patio can tell me if that is good? For first ever gaming pc

^^

[muted patio]

should be fine for a prebuilt

[shrewd fjord]

GG

Now once I am done building my truck I will hopefully get pc

I need to stop looking at pc tbh making me crazy. Because I want to get one but my dad would not be happy if I spent money on a pc instead of my truck

[little osprey]

@muted patio what do I do for this

F3 if I want my cpu to be unlocked?

[muted patio]

No KB detected. Try a different Keyboard or different USB port

[little osprey]

@muted patio no I just plugged a keyboard in

I didn’t have one plugged in

I’ll reset

[muted patio]

F1 then, set up your BIOS, save and exit

[little osprey]

So F1

Alright

[muted patio]

If you have a good cooler F3

up to you

[little osprey]

Arctic freezer II

360mm

With a 10850k

[muted patio]

Unlock PL then

IDK much about intel

[little osprey]

I’m planning on ocing but is it necessary now while I’m just setting it up

I don’t eathier

[muted patio]

Can probably change it later

[little osprey]

Um

I’m thinking f3 just means my cpu is gonna be unlocked?

Whatever

I’m clicking f3

Alright I’m in bios

Time to go install windows on usb

[muted patio]

No, Intel has power limits

F3 removes them

[little osprey]

Ah

Well I clicked f3

It may have been you I was talking to about it yesterday but can I use Rufus the same as I would use windows creation studio thing

It says I can do disk or iso image, would “disk” mean the same as a uefi

[muted patio]

no

[little osprey]

It worked perfectly

So

Erm

I should be good, my cpu temp was 85C in bios

How can I check if my aio is working

[eternal mesa]

@muted patiop

[frank kernel]

can someone help me build like a $1300 pc build? i have a case and a prime Z390 A and idk what other parts i should get

[little osprey]

Stop pinging random people

[desert gulch]

by hearing?

and by temps

[little osprey]

@desert gulch it’s at 88C

Isent that too high

I can hear the water and fans

It’s an arctic freezer II

So idk why it’s so hot

This is why isent it

It’s at 4.8

Tf

[still roost]

ofir#8661 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[robust lake]

Dont use this software

I have used it before

Its terrible

[wary tundra]

@little osprey background pls

I want

[little osprey]

@robust lake xtu

Is the best of any cpu ocing software

U can use afterburner or something but

[robust lake]

What

Its trash giving you high voltage

Thats probably why your temps are high

Afterburner is for gpu oc

[little osprey]

Oh

Im bricked

[robust lake]

And cpu oc you should do from bios

But learn how to do it first

[little osprey]

Not necessarily

[robust lake]

For best results yes

[little osprey]

Wouldn’t make a difference no

It’s probably easier though

That’s not my problem

My problem is I just installed windows and my cpu is 80

88c

I didn’t oc it

[robust lake]

On idle?

[little osprey]

Yea

[robust lake]

Oh

[little osprey]

I’ll go in bios

Sec

[robust lake]

Probably need to reinstall the aio

[little osprey]

Why would I need to do that

What

[robust lake]

Bad contect i guess

If you idle at 88c

[little osprey]

Well pretty sure I did something wrong

A minute ago

Cpu core voltage at 0.844 is auto

And it shows that’s what it is

[frank stirrup]

What aio

Did it come with any pre applied paste

@little osprey

[little osprey]

@frank stirrup arctic

Freezer II 360mm

And no

I did it myself

[stoic island]

Did you take the plastic off the coldplate

Did you plug the pump connector into the pump header

[frank stirrup]

How much did you use?

[little osprey]

@frank stirrup I did an X not touching all the way to the corners but close to them

[little osprey]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

How much

Not how

[stoic island]

Pump connector into pump header

[little osprey]

Idk exactly, 75% of the tube I think? The tube was smaller compared to normal ones

(I think)

[little osprey]

I followed exactly what the guy did in the installation video

So yes

[stoic island]

I'm talking about which header on the motherboard you plugged into

Because that bit matters

Not just it has to be plugged in, but where it's plugged in

[little osprey]

It is labeled “cpu fan”

Oh

A header

[fossil cedar]

There's a pump specific header

[little osprey]

Labeled pump

Alright I plugged it into there instea d

It says this when I turn on pc

[fossil cedar]

Plug one of the aio fans into the cpu fan header

[little osprey]

There’s only one plug for the entire aio

Which is coming off the pump head

All the fans seem to be spinning

Still says cpu temp is 89

[fossil cedar]

Remount your aio then

How did you screw it down

[frank stirrup]

There will 100% be fan headers coming off each fan

You simply cannot run a pump and 3 fans off a single mobo header

[bright charm]

No SATA power?

[fossil cedar]

[lyric thistle]

Sussy baka

[little osprey]

look up the cooler I have

The plug-ins off the fans are very small and connect to each other

I’ll try and see if I can strech one over

no, not possible for them to reach over

If I plugin the 1 pump cord to the case fan header the problem in bios or whatever goes away but is that gunna effect it since I’m not using the pump header

u mean daisy chain

No

What

Oh

yes

Yes

if theyre connecting to each other and then sourcing through one fan cable
its daisy chained

is that the rgb or the fan power?

There’s no rgb

So fan power

I thought it was odd aswell

[frank stirrup]

So they do have fan connectors on each one then lol

Where are you mounting the rad btw

And what are the fan connectors plugged into

[muted patio]

Arctic Freezer AIO uses one connection for all the things

It's fine, headers can support it no problem

[hallow glen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVxJ3Z hep

this good

the 11500 is weird

but

[fossil cedar]

That 11500 is being scalped just get an 11600k

[hallow glen]

does it have same igpu

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[hallow glen]

HAHAHAHAH

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[muted patio]

Or wait for 11500 to restock

[hallow glen]

mmm yes no igpu for 100 dollar more

[muted patio]

shouldn't be long

[hallow glen]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

If you're buying rn just get the 11600k imo

More perf

So why not

[hallow glen]

im buying soon

[fossil cedar]

11500 has been scalped for a while

[hallow glen]

AHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I NEED TO BUILD A PC THIS COMPUTER IS CRAP

[muted patio]

If k then get Z motherboard. 11600 in a B560 might not go so well

[fossil cedar]

^

[muted patio]

Especially the Prime, VRM be screaming

[hallow glen]

kk

[fossil cedar]

And a scythe fuma 2 mb

[hallow glen]

kk

[fossil cedar]

If budget allows

[hallow glen]

it will

[fossil cedar]

Make sure it's z590

[hallow glen]

kk

[fossil cedar]

Unless you have a 10th gen cpu to upgrade the z490

[hallow glen]

good z590?

[little osprey]

Yes but I cannot do anything with them deeming then useless to me

They are too short

To reach board

[frank stirrup]

If you dont use them your fans arent gonna run

[muted patio]

Yes they will

Stop saying that

[frank stirrup]

Me?

[muted patio]

yes

All the arctic freezers use a single cable

and it's fine

[fossil cedar]

Z590 a pro

[muted patio]

biggest issue is either it's not mounted correctly or it has a bad pump

[little osprey]

I can tell if the fans are on lmao

Which they are

And yes

[hallow glen]

got it

[muted patio]

if the temp is 80+ C in BIOS either the pump is bad or it's not mounted correctly

[hallow glen]

@fossil cedar https://pcpartpicker.com/list/67K9Dc

[fossil cedar]

👍

[hallow glen]

k thx

[little osprey]

It’s 88

[muted patio]

Ya

[hallow glen]

wait what is the diff from fuma 2 and vetroo

[little osprey]

I mean I followed how the guy mounted it on the video dk where I could have gone wrong

[muted patio]

Check your mounting hardware again

[fossil cedar]

Z590 prime should do too if ya wanna save a bit actually just saw its a bit cheaper

[muted patio]

Forget the video

read the manual

Check the parts you used

[fossil cedar]

More heat pipes moar fan

[hallow glen]

ah kk

[fossil cedar]

Better coool

Ye

[little osprey]

I literally used every single part

[frank stirrup]

I see... what are the other cables for then?

[little osprey]

I’ll look in a sec

[muted patio]

WDYM?

Single cables goes into the pump

[hallow glen]

[muted patio]

Cables run through the sleeving up to the fans

[frank stirrup]

these

[muted patio]

Fans plug into that to keep the cable mess tidy

[frank stirrup]

I see

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

my bad then

[hallow glen]

how long do pc parts take to arrive normally. 2 weeks or sumn?

[little osprey]

My entire build came in 4 days

[frank stirrup]

depends where you order from

[hallow glen]

wait should i get extra memory to allocate to the igpu

[little osprey]

Depends on where u buy it

[muted patio]

Arctic is one of the only, if not the only, AIO manufacturer to do it this way. It's clean and tidy and works great.

[hallow glen]

ok

[frank stirrup]

Ill remember that

Thanks for the info

[little osprey]

Should it say NA

[muted patio]

Yes

[hallow glen]

[muted patio]

You're plugged into the CPU fan header yeah?

[little osprey]

I am

Yea

[muted patio]

Then it's reading

Go back to the manual

Check the hardware you used

Maybe you grabbed the wrong spacers

[little osprey]

I used every single thing that was in the hardware pack, I’ll check again in a sec

[muted patio]

intel or AMD

[little osprey]

Intel

[muted patio]

There are multiple standoffs

[little osprey]

I know

Somebody said to use the bigger one

I’ll see in manual if it agrees with that

[muted patio]

Seems to be correct

[little osprey]

Correct

I used the bigger one

I didn’t use any washers

But

[muted patio]

and the right holes in the mount?

[little osprey]

That shouldn’t effect anything

Yes

[muted patio]

Turn the CPU fan speed to 100%

just to test.

actually

the washers might matter

They will space the backplate down more

and create more CPU mount pressure

[little osprey]

They should only be to not strat him anything

Oh

[muted patio]

might

IDK, I'd take it apart and follow the instructions to the letter and test again

https://support.arctic.de/lf2-360r4

360mm but the same for all of them

If after a remount it does the same thing, change CPU fan speed to 100% and check temps again

If still hot, pump probably bad and need to RMA. It happens occasionally

Is this top or front mounted

[little osprey]

It’s front mounted, and yes I know top is probably better and I’m gonna change it but shouldn’t be the reason it’s at 90C

[muted patio]

Tubes at the top or bottom

[little osprey]

Do I just leave the thermal paste as is on the cpu?

Top

[muted patio]

Best to clean and repaste

[little osprey]

What should I use to clean it

Rubbing alcohol and a micro fiber

[muted patio]

Or paper towel is fine

so you don't ruin the microfiber

Cuz the paste won't wash out XD

[little osprey]

Alright

Idk if I have enough left in the tube for a second one

[muted patio]

It only takes a pea sized drop

not much

[little osprey]

People say that’s not enough

Then I probably have enough

[muted patio]

Trust me it's enough

Done all my paste that way

[fossil cedar]

They were getting 90 idle iirc so doesn't matter which orientation

[muted patio]

Well aware

It was just a question

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay

[muted patio]

air might have been trapped in the pump

😉

Tubes bottom, air can get trapped and not get out

Air goes up, not down

So tubes bottom, air could be in the pump

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see wheres you coming from fair enough

[muted patio]

and might need a jiggle before reinstall

[little osprey]

What does xtu say “old core clock frequency” is 4.8

When I am on the optimization page or whatever before I do the automatic overclock

Does that mean I’m at 4.8 atm?

[fossil cedar]

Can you rephrase?

[little osprey]

My all core clock is at 4.8 but I hear that’s normal for a 10850k to be at that for stock

[muted patio]

Ya

5.2 is single core

[little osprey]

I’m considering building my own pc for the first time any tips or tricks

[muted patio]

be very patient with getting a GPU because they're unobtanium

[muted patio]

@gritty pier Air goes up, not down. Either way, as long as there are no air bubbles in the pump to start, orientation either way is fine

basically, if tubes go down and there's air in the pump, it will stay there.

[gritty pier]

Thanks for the input! I feel confident in my setup then. Before I did the final mounting, I had the PC on with the radiator lifted above the case to bleed out any air that might’ve been in the pump.

[muted patio]

Yeah it's fine. People put too much weight on some things

If you want the best mount, top mount is best to keep the pump flooded at all times

The overall rule is this: If the top of the radiator is above the level of the pump, you're fine

You're close to that

[gritty pier]

Yeah, unfortunately the NZXT H510 only has vents for a single fan so whenever I upgrade to a new case I’ll orient it that way.

Maybe if I get bored enough I’ll drill out some matching vent holes and respray the case to make it look OEM and top mount it.

[fossil cedar]

Btw i would swap cases asap

Or at least run it with no side panel

[gritty pier]

Ehhh, I currently don’t see a need to. On lighter loads, my temps are around 46°C for both CPU and GPU and around 65°C when gaming.

Plus I run blue and purple RGB to keep the FPS up and temps low

[fossil cedar]

How are your temps so low wtf

[muted patio]

#cases-psu-and-cooling message 🍿

[gritty pier]

Lots of fans

Or maybe it’s because all I play is FFXIV and it’s not a very demanding game even on max settings

[fossil cedar]

Lots of fans should not be able to beat the struggles of the h510 lol

[gritty pier]

I originally wanted the Fractal Meshify C when I first built this in November 2019 but I was being impatient and just grabbed this from the local Best Buy.

I’ll probably upgrade to the Corsair 5000D later on down the road. Those things look pretty sweet.

[rich helm]

Yeah h510 is a little wack

[gritty pier]

It’s a lotta whack

[rich helm]

3080 in a h510 =

[stoic island]

5000d airflow is decent

5000d non airflow wacky

[fossil cedar]

5000d airflow good just meh price

[vague oracle]

Lian Li Lancool II is where it’s at

[muted patio]

Phanteks P500A is where it's at XD

[gritty pier]

Was thinking about the Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini but everyone and their momma has it these days.

[lament fulcrum]

microcenter in marietta ga restocks tuesdays thursdays and fridays
went there saturday since i was going to atlanta anyway and all they had were 6700xt's at 999 and 6900xt's at 2.5k

[hallow glen]

EW
\

[vague oracle]

Both of those aren’t really worth it

[rich helm]

6700xt should be 600 max tbh

[vague oracle]

more like 500

I got my 6800xt for 1.3k which honestly id say is a decent deal considering the model of it i got

Gigabyte Aorus Master

[hallow glen]

EW

[little osprey]

I agree

If I pay 1.3k for a GPU it's better be a liquid cooled 3090TI

[hallow glen]

uhhh.... regular 3090 is 1500

lol

[little osprey]

My point

[hallow glen]

how

[little osprey]

Because I'll never own one 😂😂😂

That's the only time I'll buy one

[hallow glen]

oh lol

[vague oracle]

Thing is, with the warranty in the next 2 years i can trade the gpu for 1.3k store credit to upgrade it in the future

[hallow glen]

oh thats not bad

get a 7900xt?

lol

[vague oracle]

So like i could get a 4000/5000 series nvidia gpu for pretty much free if its below 1300

[cold sorrel]

...well, now I don't know what to do. I tried to get my new build to boot and it stuck on the DRAM light. And I left it alone for quite a while to see if it was doing things with the RAM. I tried taking them out and putting them back in again (still no boot into BIOS), but I worry I've broke the RAM or the mobo slots.

[fossil cedar]

Make sure ram is in slots 2 and 4

So from cpu left to right

Empty, ram, empty, ram

Clear cmos tho atm

[stoic island]

Single stick in slot 2 then reset cmos then boot again

[cold sorrel]

However, since all the fans and lights came on; pretty sure everything else is connected properly. (Even if my cable management is trash.)

[tight sorrel]

greg salazar had an issue like this. turned out the gpu was borked. try reaseating your GPU

[cold sorrel]

I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pop the CMOS battery out and leave it for a few minutes.

(I really hope the GPU's not borked. It's brand new and been sitting in its box.)

[fossil cedar]

dw i cant see how the gpu would activate the dram light

[cold sorrel]

Ugh, if I want to pull the CMOS battery I'll have to remove the GPU. And that adds another fear of breaking something. Does the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi have a latch on the PCI-E slot I need to worry about?

[tight sorrel]

go watch greg salazars video on cleaning PCs.

[fossil cedar]

you could always just short the cmos pins with a screwdriver instead

[fossil cedar]

who?

[tight sorrel]

tech youtuber

smaller, but very good

[fossil cedar]

never heard of lol

ahh

[tight sorrel]

he started doiing a series where he deep cleans peoples PCs

[fossil cedar]

very unlikely its gpu

[tight sorrel]

sure, but wont hurt to reseat the gpu

[frank stirrup]

Talia could I get a list of your specs

[fossil cedar]

ik they have 5600x and 3600 ballistix iirc

with 3060

[frank stirrup]

Hmm and the dram light is coming on yeah?

[cold sorrel]

Only thing this list has wrong is I ended up going up to a 750w AMP instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9BzFLP

[fossil cedar]

thats fine lol no harm extra wattage

[frank stirrup]

Have you updated the bios on the board?

[desert gulch]

Bios is updated yea?

[cold sorrel]

Yeah, I did that a while back.

[desert gulch]

Lol same question

[frank stirrup]

what bios was flashed?

[frank stirrup]

Great minds

[cold sorrel]

The one that had the fix for the USB issues 5000 series was having.

[frank stirrup]

There were like 3-4 of those bioses

[fossil cedar]

they not gonna be able to check number cuz the dram light not letting them boot lol

first thing i would do

clear cmos

[frank stirrup]

have you tried a single stick of ram?

one stick in slot 2

slot 1 is closest to the cpu

4 is farthest

[cold sorrel]

The CMOS battery is under the GPU, so I'm trying to get the GPU out.

[frank stirrup]

Make sure to pull the plug out before you remove the battery yeah?

having the pc plugged in and removing the battery does nothing

[fossil cedar]

short the cmos pins with a screwdriver instead

[frank stirrup]

You might need to tell em which pins if ya know

i tried looking at the pic on the website

too low res

[fossil cedar]

manual my friend

[frank stirrup]

smart

[fossil cedar]

@cold sorrel

thats an awkward position too tbf

[frank stirrup]

You know what would short those pins easily?

[fossil cedar]

screwdriver

tis what i use

[frank stirrup]

immersion of the pc into a filled bathtub /s

[vague oracle]

I’m dying laughing here, so I spent about an hour trying to figure out why my PC was in a boot loop

[fossil cedar]

[still roost]

AlecFencer#2894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vague oracle]

After an hour or so of trying everything I can think, of I decided to reseat the ram

Only to realize, I forgot to put the ram in

[fossil cedar]

lol

[cold sorrel]

Well, I got the battery out. Now I'm trying to figure out where the battery went, 'cause it went flying.

[earnest olive]

lol

pain

when something small and dark flies out against your dark floor

[cold sorrel]

If I could just find that fridge magnet I've been using for screws, that'd probaly pick that battery right up

[frank stirrup]

You unplugged the pc from power right?

like its not plugged into the wall?

[cold sorrel]

Of course I did. I did that before I started messing with the internals.

also pulled out the RAM sticks and will be trying them one at a time.

(I swear. If it turns out I failed at seating the RAM twice... I'm going to slap myself)

This is maddening. I can't find the flipping battery, nor the magnet I could maybe use to pull it out from where I think it bounced.

[fossil cedar]

Oof :/

Well you don't need battery to see if it turns back on

Just power to the pc

[cold sorrel]

(I think the battery's bounced under the edge of the bed, but I can't get down to look under it due to space issues.)

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[little osprey]

Whoever I was talking to today and yesterday about my cpu being hot and the aio not working

It was mounted wrong

That seems a bit better then 90C

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i figured

[little osprey]

What was it? Mounting issue?

[fossil cedar]

Yep

Only possiblity that 90c idle lol

With arctic

[little osprey]

I had the same issue with my wraith prism spire

95 while in bios

One of the plate things was on backwards so it wasent even touching the cpu

Took me 6 hours to figure that out

Lmao

[cold sorrel]

Well, whenever I finally find my CMOS battery I'll see if the problem was I didn't have the RAM in properly.

[fossil cedar]

You can try now, pc will boot without cmos battery

Just your bios settings won't be remembered if you unplug psu

[cold sorrel]

This is gonna sound like a dumb question, but how will I know for sure I've got the RAM all the way in?

[hallow glen]

CLICK

[frank stirrup]

What slots is it in

1 is closest to the cpu

4 is farthest away

[fossil cedar]

Make sure the tabs for ram be open

Then clickkk

[cold sorrel]

They were in slots 2 and 4 from the beginning.

[cold sorrel]

Well, battery retrieved. It just has to go back in with the words side facing up, nothing special about which direction they face

... please tell me I'm not the only one to ever have their CMOS battery go springing into a hard to reach place?

[visual tundra]

hey anyone wan to help with this

im trying to install valorant and my local disk drive is full but idk how to switch it to my other drive

nevermind i fixed it already

[potent portal]

I did this the first time I installed an AIO but the directions weren't exactly clear

[visual tundra]

what do i ?? i have a lot of space on ssd

but on my local drive is full how do i change it to download on my ssd

[hallow glen]

partition ur drives i think

[visual tundra]

i changed where to download new things since my local disk drive is full

my ssd is 1tb i just dont know how to chamge the download thing for this app i did it for r6 and fn but i cant with this game

[potent portal]

What launcher is that? It's usually in the launcher settings

[little osprey]

Riot client

[stoic island]

It's valorant's weird thing

It'll still be in the settings somewhere

[little osprey]

Riot sucks

yeah

bot right settings gear

You should be able to relocate the install folder

[visual tundra]

yeah i fixed it its weird i had to do a lot of diffrent things to install it but nnow its installed

[potent portal]

I changed the location of %temp% off my C: drive for just this kind of problem.
Let me see where it's trying to download the temporary... oh you fixed it

[visual tundra]

ay where is it better to buy minecraft ? microsoft store or steam

[potent portal]

Neither imo
Straight from Mojang for me

[visual tundra]

any reason why ?

[potent portal]

M$ sucks and doesn't deserve my money (they take 30%) and Steam has lots of small issues with games that have their own launchers

[visual tundra]

oh ok ill go with mojang then thank you

[potent portal]

It might be worth putting up with occasionally not being able to play when you want to if you can get a good Steam sale though

[wicked frigate]

Where do I ask about routers and mesh routers internet stuff

[stoic island]

the answer is amplifi

ez

[desert gulch]

How often does mc go on sale thru steam? I've never seen it on sale

[potent portal]

Usually #electronics but here is fine too

[little osprey]

Does steam even have Minecraft on it?

@visual tundra also windows and Mojang are different versions

Mojang is by itself, but Microsoft is cross play compatible

[rich helm]

Yes the answer is always amplifi

[potent portal]

Doesn't look like it does right now

[wicked frigate]

Ok so should I buy a new router/ modem or mesh router extensor

Extensor

It says I have limited WiFi all the time

[potent portal]

Extender is crap option

Cheap cheap

[wicked frigate]

What about mesh router

The ones where one plugs into router

be the other can be used

For devices

My speed is 100mbps

[potent portal]

Mesh has gotten REALLY good, and a lot have at least one ethernet port on each node

Oh only 100 mb?

[wicked frigate]

Yah sadly

I pay 65 dollars

Is that a scan

Scam

And my router doesn’t even give me 100

[potent portal]

I pay $50 for "at least 50 mb" from t-mobile and I usually pull around 150 in my area

[wicked frigate]

It gives like 60-80

HOW

teach me ways

[little osprey]

We pay $50 for 100 thru spectrum

[wicked frigate]

Oh

But I do t know what to get

[potent portal]

https://www.t-mobile.com/isp

[wicked frigate]

router or mesh router

[little osprey]

That's why it's "limited" you paying for more than your router can push

[wicked frigate]

So what do I do

[little osprey]

Get a better router

[wicked frigate]

It than when I reset the router it works fine

[little osprey]

We have a Netgear that works just fine

[wicked frigate]

It’s the bet for that plugged into wall than in my pc through Ethernet

I have a net gear too

[potent portal]

Personally with slower speeds like that I'd get a new router

[little osprey]

Netgear AC1750
Model: c6300

[wicked frigate]

But isn’t that enough to run games

[little osprey]

That's what we have and it covers a decent area

And we game ALOT

[wicked frigate]

I need it to cover 1500

Square foot

[potent portal]

OR a third option is to get powerline adapters and get a wired connection from across the house through the ground wires

[little osprey]

It'll cover that

[wicked frigate]

@little osprey what’s your speed

[little osprey]

Our house is like 2500

100Mbps

[wicked frigate]

How good are google mesh routers

[little osprey]

And we have like 3 computers, 3 phones, and Netflix going at the same time

[wicked frigate]

Wait so is it’s router and moduem combines

Combined

[little osprey]

Yeah

[wicked frigate]

Modem

[little osprey]

Our is a gateway, router/modem combined

[wicked frigate]

Ok so which router should o get

[little osprey]

Hello i am looking for a website that you put your pc parts into and it builds a 3d computer

Netgear AC1750
Model: c6300

[potent portal]

If you can't get your rated speed from a router they provide they need to give you a new modem, if you complain enough they'll even refund part of what you paid for as long as you had the issue

[wicked frigate]

Alright is there any better one for gaming

[potent portal]

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[little osprey]

All "gaming" routers are $100+

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Ik

It’s ok

[little osprey]

Thx

I had one and it was $400

[wicked frigate]

If it’s over that

[little osprey]

But it had the capability for 1Gbps

[wicked frigate]

also why do the gaming ones have a lot of antenna

[little osprey]

Looks I guess

[potent portal]

no

[wicked frigate]

Oh

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DPCKQ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_F8CEPZ2X7Q3FNE50V72M
This is the one I got

[potent portal]

More channels for the signal to travel through means less interference

[little osprey]

And it's half the price compared to when I bought it

[little osprey]

I ment a website that you would put ypur real life paets into to set what thee look like together

There isn't one as far as ik Kitty

[wicked frigate]

My budget is no more than 200

[potent portal]

Doesn't exist to my knowledge

[little osprey]

Dang

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752FD3XJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_51RF75PT2JSMAGEZYPH2
@wicked frigate

Can do up to 1Gbps for wifi

[wicked frigate]

Is there more antenna for less latency

[little osprey]

Pretty much

[wicked frigate]

Also what’s bandwidth

[little osprey]

Bandwidth is the Mbps/Gbps

The speed for the wifi

From what I've been told

[wicked frigate]

Ok

@little osprey

Is there one with more antenna

[little osprey]

Nope

[wicked frigate]

Any does it cover my area

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH4D3QV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_3QEG347REBANF82BZM9P?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[little osprey]

Should

[potent portal]

Archers are always good for range, I have one myself

[little osprey]

The Asus can cover 1800 Sq ft

[wicked frigate]

Should I get a tp

I just want the latency

Thing

More antenna

[potent portal]

If latency really matters to you then you need a wired connection, wireless will always have more latency

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[little osprey]

The TP I linked has 2000 Sq ft

[wicked frigate]

I want Ethernet

To my pc

[little osprey]

Then Sq ft doesn't matter