building-and-recc-chat

[sullen agate]

if 900 is not good enough I will make my budget bigger

Gaming playing horror games making videos

[modern shadow]

Intel alternative to ryzen 5 5600x?

[obsidian wigeon]

11400F/11400 all the way to 11600K

[fossil cedar]

Prebuilts are the best option to go rn because it's basically impossible to find a budget graphics card

[fossil cedar]

Price wise, i7 10700, perf wise in games, 11400(f) -11600k like foxy said

[frank stirrup]

you need 1500 and luck to build a good pc nowadays

for video editing that is

depending on resolution ofc tho

[fossil cedar]

I'd just go prebuilts tbh

[frank stirrup]

even for a prebuilt

900 doesnt get you much these days

might get you a 3060 non ti best case

crappy cooling tho

[fossil cedar]

Nah 1650/1660 (super)

[rancid lodge]

Building it maybe minus the GPU would be cheaper and safer (assuming you do a bit of research), so there’s not much reason to go prebuilt unless you need the GPU ASAP or don’t wanna do the research

[sullen agate]

Ok so idk anything about PCs so like what do I get?

🤷‍♂️

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali521/p/N82E16883360126 this or https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali516/p/N82E16883360116, but the 1st one way better

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVrg7X

[rancid lodge]

Right now, the shortage makes prebuilds a valid option over DIY just cause it’s easier than getting a GPU so

[fossil cedar]

That's like 2x their budget

[frank stirrup]

they said they can increase

[fossil cedar]

That's 2x tho

Also the aio overkill

[frank stirrup]

I just sent a very nice build I had lying around for 1.5k

[fossil cedar]

Id cooling se 224xt

[frank stirrup]

Upgradable

[fossil cedar]

Ehh aio waste

For i5

[sullen agate]

I will look into it thank you

[rancid lodge]

Arctic cooler is too much for an i5 lol

[fossil cedar]

Np

[frank stirrup]

eh yeah even a v5 would be fine tbh

[fossil cedar]

Yeah v5=se224=gammaxx 400 basically

[modern shadow]

so which one would be the better choice?

intel?

[fossil cedar]

Depends what use case

[modern shadow]

CPU heavy gaming

[fossil cedar]

11600k but considering you already have a Ryzen 5, you don't need a new board I'd get a 5800x

[modern shadow]

I am making a list for a friend

sooo 11600k it is

thanks

[fossil cedar]

Aight yeah 11400 and a b560 or 11600k and z590 if they want to overclock

[cursive walrus]

can someone help me install the kraken m22 in the msi b550 pro mobo

idk how to get in the screws

[frank stirrup]

put screw in hole

[cursive walrus]

yeah but no hole

[frank stirrup]

use screwdriver to tighten

read the manual

[cursive walrus]

i have

way too many times

[frank stirrup]

then read it again

they explain all

[cursive walrus]

so there is like a backplate

[fossil cedar]

[cursive walrus]

that needs to go on

but there isnt anywhere it fit

they arnt the same shape

[frank stirrup]

read the manual

[cursive walrus]

i did

[fossil cedar]

There might already be the stock backplate on

[muted patio]

Use the stock AMD backplate?

[cursive walrus]

oh yeah

i have never built one

ok

so then what do i do

[muted patio]

Install the standoffs and then the block

[cursive walrus]

what are the standoffs

[frank stirrup]

read the manual

[little osprey]

[muted patio]

Ah nah, don't use the stock AMD plate, gotta use the one they provide

and the pegs

[cursive walrus]

ok

[muted patio]

Das Book https://www.datocms-assets.com/34299/1617978522-kraken-m22-manual-122617-ver3-web.pdf

[magic hamlet]

hi

[meager nacelle]

Is NVMe faster than M.2 SATA?

[frank stirrup]

yes

[meager nacelle]

Alright, thanks

[hallow glen]

hola

[little osprey]

depend

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't depend sata is limited to 6gps

[stoic island]

I've yet to encounter an NVMe drive that's slower than m.2 sata drives

You have to mess up the NVMe drive very badly for that to ever happen

[elfin moss]

i've been trying to download a realtek driver as a last-ditch effort to fix the white static coming from my mic and the driver is 252MB. For some reason it has locked my download speed at 20kbps even though I have well over 200mbps internet, does anyone know what could be locking it at that speed?

it keeps estimating 4 hours and my power went out after like 3 1/2 hours so allegedly i need to wait another 4 hours for this thing to be done

[frank stirrup]

who you getting the driver from?

[fossil cedar]

I downloaded a realtek driver update the other day and it took minutes for a 20mb file

[frank stirrup]

mobo site

or realtek site

[elfin moss]

realtek

[fossil cedar]

It's realtek site

[frank stirrup]

the one from mobo site downloads fast

[fossil cedar]

Same thing happened to me yesterday mittens

[frank stirrup]

yep download from realtek site is slow

[fossil cedar]

Try motherboard site or there's a site under realtek if you google it, looks legit enough

[frank stirrup]

from mobo manufacturer site is fast

[elfin moss]

i did download that one but it hasn't fixed my issue

i've tried turning down gain, mic volume, secured my connections,

idk what else it could be besides the wires themselves or maybe some other enhancement i need to turn off

[frank stirrup]

did you try another mic?

[elfin moss]

my old mic was from a dirt-cheap headset and it sounded bad any way i configured it

i got an xlr setup recently and thats what im using now

[fossil cedar]

Or try that mic on a diff device

[frank stirrup]

^

[elfin moss]

good idea

[rich helm]

You might need drivers for your pre amp or audio interface

[elfin moss]

i already installed them unfortunately

luckily though i tested my mic on my laptop and for some reason its fixed

works on my desktop too

still have no idea why but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil cedar]

If it works it works

[desert gulch]

sounds like an adata moment lol

[stoic island]

Lol

[sick spruce]

anyone know why theres a red light next to cpu in the ez debug thing on a mobo, i tested the cpu already on a different mobo it works, its seated properly and no bent pins

[stoic island]

What board what chip, if possible, paste pcpp link.

[static ravine]

Do I know you from somewhere?

kekw

[sick spruce]

lol

dont need help with that anymore tho

[marsh kiln]

could someone suggest a ram kit i would like 32gb kit

[neon condor]

Hey guys @queen pine is new to the server lets welcome them to the server.
They did also have some #building-and-recc-chat questions.

I'm here to help.

Tell us what ya got.

[viral ore]

ok bryce.

[neon condor]

Hi Sassy

[queen pine]

hey everybody, so I'm building an amd gaming computer

[desert gulch]

Nice

[neon condor]

I'm an Intel guy myself but yeah AMD is a thing too. xD

[desert gulch]

That explains it...

[queen pine]

but im not sure what parts would be compatible. I've kinda stuck to the msi brand

[desert gulch]

So do you have a list?

[neon condor]

Use this website.

[desert gulch]

Of the PC you're building?

[neon condor]

It will help you.

Make sure parts are compatible.

[desert gulch]

Alright Bryce post the link

[neon condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[desert gulch]

Ye

[neon condor]

If the parts aren't compatible it will tell you.

[desert gulch]

We will help you as well, since pcpartpicker doesn't know value and what's good quality and stuff

[queen pine]

oh wow awesome, i will definitely use that but here is the list that ive gotten so far

[neon condor]

Getting a GPU for your build will probably be hard.

[desert gulch]

Just give him one, you have that free 3090 still right?

[neon condor]

I honestly would recommend you get one of the AMD chips with the on board graphics and use that to do some gaming until GPUs come to be better available.

Either that or find a decent NVIDIA 900 series card used.

Wouldn't pay over $200 for one tho.

[desert gulch]

Or wait for best buy drops on the new cards

[desert gulch]

Ryzen apus are hella overpriced rn, I'd way rather a 11400/500 tbh

Like 3200, which used to be decently priced is crazy rn

[queen pine]

oh okay, so the cpu that I was looking was a amd ryzen 3600

[desert gulch]

Ok

So that isn't the best value anymore

[neon condor]

Ye it's a good chip;

[desert gulch]

Intel kinda kills in value at that range

[neon condor]

Could get an Intel 10400 or 11400 tho and it would be just as good and probably cheaper.

[desert gulch]

10400f/ 11400f will both outpace it for cheaper

Yea

[muted patio]

Eh, Intel 10400 and 11400/500 both beat it though

[desert gulch]

It's still a good chip, just not best value these days

[queen pine]

I did get some of these parts already on the list. counting the cpu

[desert gulch]

What motherboard?

And what gpu?

[queen pine]

msi tomahawk

[desert gulch]

B450?

[queen pine]

i believe, but no gpu yet

[desert gulch]

Yeah you'll need a gpu before it'll work

I'd go for a 3060ti if you have the budget for it

[queen pine]

B550

[desert gulch]

399.99 msrp for the 3060ti founders edition

Ok that's good

You buy ur parts off Amazon or Newegg or both?

[queen pine]

mainly newegg, I checked amazon but newegg is somewhat stocked

[desert gulch]

Ye

[queen pine]

so but i did find a radeon 6700 xt but at like 1,165 😦

[desert gulch]

Not worth

Ive seen that one too off that one website

How much do you have budgeted for the gpu?

[cerulean basalt]

ok im sorry if this sounds like a silly question but Im new to building so i genuinely dont know. I have a case fan that came with my case, and its 3 pin. my motherboard only has 4 pin PWM. if the notches line up, will it function by puttin the 3 pin on the 4 pin header? anything is helpful

[queen pine]

I was hoping to spend at least 400-700

[desert gulch]

So a 3070 would fit that pretty nicely

Or a 3060ti if you were looking for best dollar to performance

3070 is ~100usd more so about 25% more than 3060ti but only has like %10 better performance, which is why 3060ti is kinda the golden card for mid range builds rn

[desert gulch]

Yeah it works fine

[cerulean basalt]

ah thanks

[desert gulch]

Just line it up with the keyed part and push it on

Ye

[cerulean basalt]

Im excited :)

[desert gulch]

:p

[queen pine]

oh nice, that's what I had looked at before but where would someone find a 3070 or 3060?

[cerulean basalt]

the dark alleys

[queen pine]

lol if only

[cerulean basalt]

yea they prolly outta stock as well

[queen pine]

so but supposedly theres going to be a restock?

[cerulean basalt]

so ive heard

[muted patio]

Of course they restock, the probvlem is knowing when

[cerulean basalt]

but to be honest, no one really knows when the heck that ever be

[queen pine]

yeah, there's a several channels on youtube that are always live that refresh the status of when graphics cards are in stock... always out of stock

[marsh kiln]

2080, ryzen 5 3600, 16gb 3600 RAM, 750w PSU, 1TB M.2 SSD, X570 Tuf gaming plus wifi

How is that for computer specs

[desert gulch]

Mostly bad value

[marsh kiln]

1700 dollars for all

[desert gulch]

Not worth

You can build a 3080 PC for that and just about double the performance

In most games

[marsh kiln]

No I can't 3080s or and 3000 is not possible to get in my price range

[desert gulch]

Yes it is

You can totally do a 3080 build for 1700

[marsh kiln]

How

[desert gulch]

Newegg shuffle / best buy drops

[marsh kiln]

Yea I would have better luck begging on the street for a 3080 then one of them

[desert gulch]

Not rly

[marsh kiln]

How there are thousands of people trying to win

[desert gulch]

Still a chance

[jagged ember]

Bb drops better

[desert gulch]

Ye

[jagged ember]

Shuffle is entirely rng

Bb is partially rng

[desert gulch]

But shuffle is good for those who can't check bb all the time

[jagged ember]

We've given you the solution, question is will you take it

Also 3600 is an oof when 11400/11500 exists

[muted patio]

Yeah, 3600 gets handed by 11400/11500 and 10400 set up properly

[marsh kiln]

I hate Intel tho

[jagged ember]

Lol okay

[muted patio]

You can hate it but it doesn't mean that it's not faster

[jagged ember]

Can't argue with good value

And better performance

[muted patio]

For $1700 should be at least 5600/5800 as well

That configuration is overpriced IMO

[jagged ember]

I got a 3600 and a 2070 for 1000 so

But it was pre pandemic and pre out of production

[marsh kiln]

U have a link I could use for the shuffle

[muted patio]

It's pinned to general chat https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[fossil cedar]

I'm not a huge fan of intels either, but i admit they make some good products

[obsidian wigeon]

Hating one brand will just make you miss out

It's why I stay neutral lol

Rather have good product instead of missing out because of bias

[jagged ember]

but intol bade

[obsidian wigeon]

is my motto

[lyric thistle]

trust pwoer supply

very good brand

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just care if it's a good product even if i don't particularly like the company, not like their gonna care if they loose my few hundred

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

I don't like nvidia that much myself, but I enjoy using their stuff thanks to good software however

[fossil cedar]

Yeah same

[robust lake]

Anything is worth it rn on msrp

[sullen agate]

does anyone know if intel Core i5 10th Gen 10400F 2.90GHz (4.30GHz) 6-Core 12-Thread good for gaming pc?

i know nothing about pc's just making sure the stuff my pc comes with is good

[muted patio]

Depends on the rest of the hardware with it

[sullen agate]

ok can i copy and paste it here

Intel Core i5 10th Gen 10400F 2.90GHz (4.30GHz) 6-Core 12-Thread
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB (Brand May Vary)
RGB CPU Cooler
16GB DDR4 3000MHz
512GB Intel 660P M.2 NVME SSD
500W 80 Plus
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Gaming Keyboard & Mouse
VR Ready

[robust lake]

Looks fine whats the price?

[sullen agate]

$969.99 on sale

original price is $1,099.99

[robust lake]

Decent price i guess

[sullen agate]

ok cool

thats perfect

[robust lake]

Is it new or 2nd hand?

[sullen agate]

where to i check?

[robust lake]

Where are you buying this from

[sullen agate]

new egg

[robust lake]

Oh ok

Its new probably

[sullen agate]

want me to send the link?

[robust lake]

I think its the abs one right?

[sullen agate]

idk lol

oh yes

i think

ABS Challenger Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400F - GeForce GTX 1660 Super - 16GB DDR4 - 512GB Intel M.2 NVMe SSD

[robust lake]

Yeah then they have good pre builts i think

[sullen agate]

ok cool

idk who to believe because i look online and websites say building a pc is cheaper and discord say pre built is cheaper

[robust lake]

Building yourself is cheaper

If you can get the parts for msrp

[sullen agate]

mmmm ok

[robust lake]

Gpus are hard to get atm

So pre builts can be fine

[sullen agate]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's a good deal atm

[sullen agate]

yeah you showed me it lol anyways thanks tho

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah well for a 1k$ budget best you're gonna get

[sullen agate]

true lol

[meager badge]

I just did it and, excluding the GPU, it's definitely cheaper to build it yourself. And this is not the first PC I build over the years. Some pre built offers I see on some websites are just ridiculous, they just play with people lack of knowledge. Including gen 4 i7 pcs for 1200-1400 euros.

I am talking about new pre builts. Not second hand.

[vagrant olive]

newegg had better deliver my case surrounded by the finest cushioning in the world

if this o11d mini is damaged at all imma be pissed

[lyric thistle]

standard packaging for cases is plastic wrapping, two polystyrene end pieces, and a larger enclosing box

probably not gonna be damaged lol

[fossil cedar]

Usually it is but the gpu market has been royally screwed for a while and it's way cheaper to get a decent prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

Tbh they live in the us and neweggs abs prebuilts are pretty good

[fossil cedar]

Think that's just your region tho, we can get normal i5 office machines for 500-600€

[meager badge]

You are probably right, I need an European newegg 😄

[fossil cedar]

Me too tbh I'd love a newegg Ireland (but would still be perfectly happy to import from germany or spain or something which is what i do with Amazon anyway

[sharp coral]

Hey guys if i have a single stick of ram dose it matter in which of the 4 slots i put it in ?

[muted patio]

A2 or B2

For most motherboards anyway

Check your manual to be sure

[sharp coral]

Ok but its ok if i put it in 3rd slot

Its just asking to ser if my ram slot is dead

Am i have 4 stick but when i put just one in slot 2 it works fine one slot in slot 3 it doesn’t work

[muted patio]

Might not be OK. Most motherboards are A2 or B2 for a single stick

[sharp coral]

Ah

Bc am getting BCOD

Like crazy

So i was testing ram and ram slots

[muted patio]

If you're getting BSOD, download and install WhoCrashed to see what's causing it.

[sharp coral]

In safe mode ?

[muted patio]

https://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe

Not sure if it works in Safe Mode or not

[sharp coral]

Ok

Thanks

[muted patio]

Also, to test your ram, use Memtest86

https://www.memtest86.com/

[sharp coral]

I did their t fine

So i was testing the motherboard slots

[muted patio]

If Memtest didn't find anything then it's not the ram

Nor the slots

Probably a driver or other software

[sharp coral]

Ok

Ty

[muted patio]

WhoCrashed will diagnose the BSOD Dump files

See what it says

[sharp coral]

Ok

[muted patio]

WHEA errors are CPU related

Is it overclocked at all? What CPU and motherboard is this?

@sharp coral

[sharp coral]

x570 aorus elite r9 5900x not oced

everything is brand new

[muted patio]

Brand new....have you updated the Aorus ELite to the latest BIOS listed on the motherboard page?

[sharp coral]

yeah

[muted patio]

Version F13G?

[sharp coral]

am on f32

[muted patio]

Sorry, I pulled upthe wrong board XD

[sharp coral]

np

[muted patio]

Try F33

[sharp coral]

ok

[muted patio]

Just released June 1

WHEA errors are CPU hardware or BIOS

So cross your fingers this works

[sharp coral]

🤞🤞🤞

thanks ill be back

[muted patio]

YW

[fathom shoal]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994?Description=prebuilt&cm_re=prebuilt-_-83-102-994-_-Product&quicklink=true thoughts

[sharp coral]

for now it seems good 🤞

[fossil cedar]

if you want to buy something in that price range, get this instead, better cpu

[fathom shoal]

gwet what instead

[fossil cedar]

woops sorry thought i linked

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali524/p/N82E16883360129

[patent gyro]

my bluetooth is not working and idk if it has something to do with my drivers

[fossil cedar]

Update your drivers anyway

[patent gyro]

where is that

[fossil cedar]

Go into device manager and get the name for your Bluetooth thing then google that name and driver and it should bring you to the right place

[patent gyro]

i can't it doesn't pop up in search

the device manager

[fossil cedar]

It will say like realtek or intel something like that

Look in network and adapters subheading

[patent gyro]

That’s doesn’t work Either

[fossil cedar]

Send a screenshot

[rich helm]

3000mhz oof

[potent portal]

Good 'nuff

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's fine, it's intel and it's better than the 2666 or 2133 you're gonna get in a dell etc

[rich helm]

True

[autumn hemlock]

Hello - looking for a new build. As much tech as I can get for $1500. Suggestions?

[verbal quarry]

what is the average 5600x idle temps that everyone is getting?

im at 54c with the side panel off and my pc crashed twice after i did a Borderlands 3 benchmark

[rich helm]

with stock cooler?

54c seems a little high but if thats oc then def

[tawny kindle]

What do you plan to do with it?

[autumn hemlock]

IT admin stuff, not much gaming but would like the power of an entry level gaming PC

some streaming

[verbal quarry]

i figured it out

it was the epic games launcher

[fossil cedar]

If you're doing that then you don't need to spend nearly that much, 800-1000 would kick ass

[verbal quarry]

spiked my temps by 7-8 degrees

[rich helm]

always epic games smh

[fossil cedar]

Do you want to build it yourself or prebuilt?

[autumn hemlock]

Okay can you run parts picker for me around $1000 so I can see what you are talking about

build it or prebuilt doesn't matter due to need something soon

[fossil cedar]

Sure

@autumn hemlock you need wifi?

[autumn hemlock]

No, machine would be wired

but would need gig nic

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HyTs4d

@autumn hemlock

That has 2.5 gig networking iirc

[autumn hemlock]

very cool, I like it

so are those parts all purchased just by hitting the 'Buy from Amazon" or do I have to purchase individually from each source?

[fossil cedar]

Purchase individually iirc, but i mean you can just put them all in the same basket per retailer like you would normally

[autumn hemlock]

ah okay very good well thanks for the assist

[fossil cedar]

No problem, glad to help

[autumn hemlock]

just one last thing

are these legit:
Note:The Asus PRIME Z490-P ATX LGA1200 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.
Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.
Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

compatibility issues?

[muted patio]

Ignore all of those

Extra 4 pin isn't needed

[fossil cedar]

It's fine dw lol

[autumn hemlock]

okay sounds good just making sure

[fossil cedar]

Yeah np lol

[autumn hemlock]

how do most add an OS once they have the HD put together?

hardware

[marble whale]

is ddr3 good?

[fossil cedar]

Do you have another computer that you can borrow for a few minutes? If so download windows media creation tool and run it and install it onto a usb drive

[fossil cedar]

No, don't buy anything with ddr3, it's old

[marble whale]

ok i have an old desktop i was going to upgrade to 16gbs

[autumn hemlock]

okay then USB to SSD?

[fossil cedar]

No, it's not a file transfer, you boot from the ssd and it then installs onto the ssd

You'll probs get a better idea if you watch a tutorial or something

[autumn hemlock]

okay sounds good will do

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't bother, just save up to get a new motherboard ram and cpu

[marble whale]

ok

[autumn hemlock]

@eternal spindle I have some older monitors that are DVI/VGA will they work with the Asus PRIME Z490-P ATX LGA1200 Motherboard?

[little osprey]

y plug in graphics cable to motherboard

r u have running integrated graphics?

or r u have dumb

[marble whale]

@autumn hemlock yes you can any monitor will work with that mobo

[verbal quarry]

yea im pretty sure my computer is thermal throttling

any ways to help fix that?

i have a 5600x cpu

[white blaze]

Get a better CPU cooler?

[verbal quarry]

well the thing is it hasnt done this before

i did a benchmark on borderlands 3 and the test went smoothly

only after the test finish did it begin to shut itself down

[little osprey]

wats so good abt these btw?

[verbal quarry]

its idling at 49c with the side panel off and the fans at max speed

[stoic island]

performance at good noise level

what makes any fan good :P

[little osprey]

can have benches/reviews pls

[green laurel]

hello my friend is running a 3070 with ryzen 7 3700X he is getting major frame drops down in the 70s on warzone could it possibly be that he only has a 120 mm aio and it is throttling itself back and dropping performance?

[obsidian wigeon]

I need him to know the temps first, else I couldn't say otherwise

Also, how much ram does he have?

[green laurel]

says cpu #0 is at 69 right now

C

[muted patio]

Under load?

[green laurel]

load % for all cores are very diff

yes he is in game right now

[obsidian wigeon]

So it is not temp

I wanna know how much ram he has then

[muted patio]

What are the other cores though

Core 0 is just one core

[obsidian wigeon]

It shouldn't be far off

[green laurel]

cant see any other on his screen one min

[orchid gyro]

Core Temp program is showing all the loads for each core but only able to see temp for #0

[obsidian wigeon]

Well, you should use hwinfo, I'd say

[muted patio]

Ah

Yes hwinfo64

[obsidian wigeon]

Coretemp is also old

Hasn't been updated since forever

[muted patio]

nDeed

[green laurel]

tried Hwinfo64 the otehr day and it just send to an alternate link i think we went over this the other day vintage

[muted patio]

Its working now

It was fixed the next morning

[vivid bone]

do i run sensors only?

[muted patio]

Yes

[native sentinel]

i need a 2 port fiberchannel card and 2 fiberchanel cables (couple foot in length max). any recommendations?

[vivid bone]

@muted patio what am i looking for in hwinfo?

[jagged ember]

You're looking for core temperature

I think

The sensors only mode labels stuff pretty clearly though so

[potent portal]

16Gb or 32Gb?

[frozen mauve]

I am getting a windows error on startup, can somebody help me?

[frozen mauve]

all i can do is open the BIOS

[potent portal]

What error

[frozen mauve]

let me see..

"UNMOUNTIBLE BOOT VALUE"

then the pc restarts itsself but 0 display goes out to the monitor

[potent portal]

Has there been a recent update you did? If not that's likely boot partition corruption or a bios setting issue

[frozen mauve]

nah, first build ever

and i have the default BIOS settings

[muted patio]

Did you ever install windows?

[frozen mauve]

no, its on the flash drive

[muted patio]

Gotta boot from that. F8 in the bios. You made it with the windows media creation tool right? Its not just an iso file copy?

[frozen mauve]

Yes, its from the tool directly.

[muted patio]

F8 in bios to choose boot drive. UEFI USB

[little osprey]

Anyone know what good cpu for my B550 motherboard would be I have price limit of 550 dollars

[frozen mauve]

F8 brings up "Load Overclocking Profile" Im using an MSI BTW

[native sentinel]

ya know, idk. i should probably find out. it's for my LTO library

[potent portal]

If you've got it set to boot from the USB and it's giving that error you need to use another tool to create the USB installer

[potent portal]

Just remember a connection only goes as fast as the slowest point

That includes storage for read ops

[muted patio]

Look for a boot menu then

[potent portal]

I think F10 was MSI boot menu

[earnest olive]

for gaming?

for gaming there is no real reason to go above a 5600x

[little osprey]

Yea its for gaming

[earnest olive]

you can take the saved money and put it towards the rest of the system

[little osprey]

I already everything else im just looking for a good cpu

[earnest olive]

if you want to max out your budget, technically 5900x can be found for $550

but it has availability problems

so you can do that

[little osprey]

Alright

[earnest olive]

or you can grab a 5800x/5600x which is always available

[little osprey]

Ok, I might do that. Thanks

[earnest olive]

i would just buy a 5600x and save the money

there is very little difference in gaming

[frozen mauve]

alright ive set it to UEFI, should i just try and boot at this point?

[muted patio]

UEFI USB yeah

[frozen mauve]

Same error shows up

[native sentinel]

This is the module from the LTO drive

[muted patio]

Then the boot media wasnt made properly. Try it again.

[gray blade]

E

[frozen mauve]

Same error. maybe i should try creating windows on the flash drive again.

[muted patio]

Sorry

That's what I meant

Try running the Media Creation Tool again

If it also doesn't work, try a different flash drive

[muted patio]

see above

[frozen mauve]

alright. thanks for your help

[clear moat]

tool to get a time line of my cpu temp?

[little osprey]

Idk what channel to post this in but
What can a used (cyber power prebuilt with added Corsair fans and the ram)

Ryzen 5 2600
Radeon 580 4gb
16gb ddr4 3200
1tb hdd
240gb ssd
msi b450m bazooka
Power supply (Idk wattage but u can guess)
Cyber power case
3 Corsair 120mms and the two stock fans included

What will this sell for on eBay or whatever (used)

[potent portal]

I'd say around $600 all together, but list it as "best offer" too and expect a lot of offers around $400-500

[little osprey]

Well I hope to have $500-600 for it so that sounds ok, but not tryna wait for a month for it to sell and idk how fast it will go for that

[desert gulch]

Voltage is drawing ~110 volts AC from your wall, turns it into 12v, 5v, and 3.3v all DC for all the parts... Most mainstream consumer psus do this, so I'm assuming you're talking about watts instead?

[fossil cedar]

They wanted to know how much they could sell it for

[desert gulch]

They were taking Abt psu and said they didn't know about it but you can guess, so I was explaining it's wattage they were looking for not voltage

[potent portal]

You're both right technically and none of it really matters. The average person can't be expected to differentiate between Amps, Watts, and volts.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see i thought i was going blind for a sec lol

[vague oracle]

I mean watts is just amps*volts

[vague oracle]

I sold a build very similar to that recently for about 600

[little osprey]

Yes....yes It is

[little osprey]

Where did u sell it

[hidden mural]

I am going to be building a pc for about $1500 cad (about 1250 usd) and im hopping I might can just some over all advice for parts and other tips overall?

[tight sorrel]

youve come to the right place

[fossil cedar]

Ehh gl getting a graphics card, would recommend getting a prebuilt atm or at least go intel so you can use the integrated graphics for light gaming/general day to day use

[little osprey]

what's a good prebuilt

for

like 1500

that has a i7-10700 or i7-10700k

and 3060 ti

[hidden mural]

lol like 50% of why im geting one is because i want to build it XD

[fossil cedar]

Why do you need 10700? Usually prebuilts that price will get you an i5 10400(small bit slower) or 11400(actually faster in gaming)

[little osprey]

i like editing

and currently on a i7-6700

so i dont want to step down

i game a lot too

[fossil cedar]

Welp then you gotta be patient

For gpu rest is fine

[hallow glen]

11400 and 10400 are a huge step up

[fossil cedar]

That's a 6 core chip iirc? So it's i5 level

[little osprey]

rlly wow

[fossil cedar]

But way faster cores on the new i5s

[hallow glen]

well, it is like 4-5 years newer

[little osprey]

true

[stoic island]

I mean

[hidden mural]

yah i know but I think its worth the time

[fossil cedar]

That's fine just an fyi

[stoic island]

That chip will prob lose to a 10100

Which is an i3, for what it's worth

[fossil cedar]

Does 670p even have ht?

[stoic island]

The "i3 i5 i7 i9" doesn't really matter

It doesn't

Wait

It does

[fossil cedar]

Then i3 would win yeah

Ohh nvm

[stoic island]

But it's 4c8t lmao

[fossil cedar]

Welp

Then the i3 10100 would beat lol

Thought it was 6 core

[stoic island]

Yea

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/88196/intel-core-i7-6700-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

[tight sorrel]

UP TO 4GHZ!!!

🤣

[obsidian wigeon]

it's an old chip

but not so old

6700 is indeed 4c/8t tho

and 10100 beats it

[muted patio]

yeah, 10100 beats the 6700 in the benchmarks I saw. Not by much though, single digit percentages.

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali475/p/N82E16883360070?item=N82E16883360070&itemPosition=1-10&exactIndex=4 out of stock atm but it should come back in stock eventually

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

basically the same

[stoic island]

Uhhh

I really wouldn't bet on come back in stock eventually

I mean, the 1500$ 3070 prebuilt that was in stock on launch of 3060 has been out of stock since then till now

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala228/p/N82E16883360062?item=N82E16883360062&itemPosition=1-10&exactIndex=3 another 3060 ti but doubt this will come back in stock either

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali484/p/N82E16883360079?item=N82E16883360079&itemPosition=1-10&exactIndex=6 most likely to come back in stock @little osprey

[stoic island]

Meh

I'd just wait till they're actually in stock to say anything about them

[fossil cedar]

That's fair I'm just throwing out options since they asked

[stoic island]

I would just like to get the point across that even prebuilts have issued with stock

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah lol deff

Just bit easier sometimes

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[little osprey]

keep seeing 10850k @ 300 USD
is it even a good deal? hearing some mixed opinions
why or why not,

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

It's not that great

[muted patio]

COmpared to the AMD Offerings and prices it's great

[little osprey]

see what i mean abt mixed opinions

[muted patio]

It beats the 5800X in multicore benchmarks

[little osprey]

how abt single core?

[muted patio]

and is about 15% slower in single core

But it's also $300 vs $450

[little osprey]

also 5800x is @ 300 usd on ebay
actually a reliable seller too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334032598267?epid=12041984358&hash=item4dc5e4f4fb:g:3AMAAOSwSVhgLQ5N

[muted patio]

That auction is over tho

Ended today

[little osprey]

it wasnt auction either it just ended <//3

[muted patio]

Yeah

That's really sus though

[little osprey]

pain

apparently 7 ppl got it

[muted patio]

maybe

maybe not

New member January 31st 2021

Smells too fishy for me to trust that

[obsidian wigeon]

vintage is right at least

compared to amd 10850k is nice value

[muted patio]

At MSRP yeah

I think MC had 5800x on sale recently tho as well

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/839hcT
thoughts? just for gaming and gna be ocing the cpu 1440p 3xA the whole shabang

[earnest olive]

this hard drive seems expensive for 2tb

otherwise ya looks fine

[hallow glen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/86d4fP this

same but diff hdd

[fossil cedar]

I'd get the wd blue 64mb cache drive but yesh something like that better

[languid nimbus]

People have a problem with every hdd out there lmao

[fossil cedar]

X300 is good just that was way too expensive lol and the segate is fine just wd is better for like 5$ more

[vague oracle]

I sold it to a friend that lives nearby

[little osprey]

@vague oracle yea I was gonna try and sell on local marketplace

Facebook or something

If I put it on eBay and somebody bids on it can I decline the bid

[fossil cedar]

You can decide not to sell it or set a minimum bid , if it doesn't meet that the final bid will be void

[hard badge]

I've seen PC's with the 10700f and a 3060 (non ti) for 1349$

Just watch for ABS sales. I haven't seen one with a 3060 ti in a while though

[fossil cedar]

Prices went up lol

And 3060 ti so rare, 3070s way easier to find

[hard badge]

Yeah, for sure

And no, the PC that i saw with a 3060 and 10700f is still below 1500$

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's just a meh deal tho :/

[hard badge]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali490/p/N82E16883360085

You aren't wrong.

Only 512gb ssd

It's 1499 and out of stock right now, last time i saw it on sale they dropped it down to 1349

[fossil cedar]

Well the 512gb is fine for a lot of ppl and easy to upgrade but yeah

[hard badge]

At the price, I'd say in his position, it'd be the best for his budget. Especially since he can move storage from his current build.

3060 ti's in prebuilts are rare except maybe through custom builders like Cyberpower or iBuyPower. And then the 3070 in prebuilts will likely start at 1800 from what I've observed.

Referring to ABS as a base price^ other sellers start much higher

[fossil cedar]

Yeah they do

[hard badge]

it's crazy lol.

I scroll through PC's on Newegg every once and a while looking for a decently priced 3080 and I see a bunch of 3070's in prebuilts more expensive than the one i bought for a 3080 a bit ago.

[spiral flame]

I am in between should I get a 5800x for 370 or a 5600x for 280 I am going to mostly be gaming

[vague oracle]

What resolution?

If 1080p go for the 5800x, anything higher than that go 5600x

[spiral flame]

I only have 1080p monitors

[vague oracle]

What gpu do you have?

[spiral flame]

570 4gb

I got to go

[vague oracle]

5600x 100%

[spiral flame]

while I want to upgrade to like a 3070

[vague oracle]

5600x Will still be fine tho imo

[little osprey]

downgrade of a hard drive

[hallow glen]

really?

[little osprey]

yep

some reports of it being 5400 rpm

also it’s SMR

vs rhe CMR of the p300

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's why i recommend the wd blue

[little osprey]

not much difference for an avaerage consumer just using for mass storage

but if ur gna he constantly read writing files u might as well, besides it’s better value i’d say

[fossil cedar]

But tbf that x300 was stoopid priced

[little osprey]

5400 SMR vs 7200 CMR for jusr springs 10 usd more

[hallow glen]

they were both 7200

the one u guys suggested to me for my friend is oos. is there an alternative?https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali521/p/N82E16883360126

[little osprey]

barracuda is advertised at 7200
but there are reports online about it hitting only 5400RPM

[hallow glen]

oof

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491/p/N82E16883360086?Item=N82E16883360086
this but..its overpaying for what youre getting
how much was your original?

[hallow glen]

1k

or a bit less

960

the budget was 1k so that isnt really an option

[still roost]

momo <3#6272 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

o my bad. forgot i cant swear here lawl

[fossil cedar]

There's a 2060, 11400 for that price on newegg, or at least there was yesterday, if not there was 10400 2060 for that price

[hallow glen]

ill check

[hallow glen]

theres one for 1200

and one for 1100

[fossil cedar]

It was 1100 yesterday it's back up now

https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994?item=N82E16883102994

@hallow glen

That one

[hallow glen]

yeah, budget is 1k

[frank stirrup]

Its not a lot more perf to be honest

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cYJFNP how is this list but a 3070 ti?

[hallow glen]

i would suggest pilot-e, 11400f, b560,

[spiral flame]

what is the advantages of the 11400f?

it is the same price

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/spb4fP

[frank stirrup]

why the 11400f?

[fossil cedar]

Id go that if you want to go amd

[frank stirrup]

the SSD i can understand

[hallow glen]

no its cheaper. but ok

[hallow glen]

cheeper

[frank stirrup]

not better if guy has budget

[hallow glen]

eh ok

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't recommend 11400f, it's more expensive than 11400 most of time and no igpu

[frank stirrup]

5600X runs circles around an 11400f

[spiral flame]

no it isn't

[frank stirrup]

5600x beats 11600k

[hallow glen]

11400f is 100 dollars cheaper than that

ah whatever

continue

[fossil cedar]

@spiral flame get this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/spb4fP

[spiral flame]

what

[fossil cedar]

A lot of the time 11400 is cheaper than 11400f

[frank stirrup]

let it go

use patos list

its very nais

[spiral flame]

yeah I was just confused what he was saying

[frank stirrup]

understandable

Trust what pato says tho

[spiral flame]

yeah

[frank stirrup]

Pato knows what hes talking about

[fossil cedar]

Danke

[spiral flame]

could I buy that list but the gpu until I can get it and put my 570 4gb temporarily?

[fossil cedar]

Ofc

[frank stirrup]

yep

I simp RX570s

also falcie

[spiral flame]

why

[frank stirrup]

First card that got em onto OC leaderboards

I have the 21st fastest system ever built that contains a single RX570

[spiral flame]

wow

[hallow glen]

FASTER

[frank stirrup]

Floppa has a far better RX570 but far worse CPU

when he upgrade I get 22nd best lmao

[spiral flame]

is it worth it to camp out at microcenter to get a 3070 ti?

or will I still have low odds of getting one?

[fossil cedar]

Call a few days before and see when they restock and yeah it's worked for peoples

[spiral flame]

They release on the 10th should I try then?

[frank stirrup]

worth a shot

lines start 1-2 days in advance tho

[spiral flame]

do you think they have started today?

cause I think I can get there at like 3:00 on the 9th

[frank stirrup]

I dont really know tbh I dont live in the US

[spiral flame]

I'm not starting with it but later could I water cool in that case?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but you really don't need to water cool and if you want to for asthetics then just get the arctic freezer ii

[spiral flame]

I know I don't need it but in the future when I upgrade I might for fun

[fossil cedar]

just buy it now then, no point in buying twice

[spiral flame]

If I do I'll do a custom loop not just an aio

[frank stirrup]

Very easy to mess up and no extra perf for your cpu tbh

I would get an Arctic Freezer II rn tbh

[fossil cedar]

If you want to watercool get a corsiar 4000d/5000d aiflow or td500 mesh or something like that case wise, better radiator mounting

[frank stirrup]

Yeah i also simp the 4000d airflow

[fossil cedar]

same

[rustic flare]

ayo

fans at full speed

how is that

[hallow glen]

is the 5000d better in any way?

airflow i mean

[frank stirrup]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_qa49gHzw

[hallow glen]

ok

[frozen mauve]

how do i fix error 0x80070057 during the installation process? I cant delete, format, or use any of the partitions.

[frank stirrup]

Pirated copy of windows?

[frozen mauve]

nope, trial version of pro

[frank stirrup]

Downloaded from?

[frozen mauve]

offical website

used ssd

[stoic island]

sounds like smth with the ssd

[frozen mauve]

yeah probably...

[stoic island]

dunno if you could like dban it with a friend's computer or smth

[frozen mauve]

eh, probably better off just returning it and then getting a new one.

[mild axle]

Hi

[spiral flame]

hi

[mild axle]

I need help

[spiral flame]

I'm not the person

[mild axle]

Assuming i could get things at MSRP what would be a good budget streaming pc

@ me if anyone replies

[spiral flame]

kind of pointless to assume unless you want to wait a year also what budget

[spiral flame]

@mild axle

[blazing aurora]

nope, you'll be fine

[spiral flame]

you will just need to change the price

[mild axle]

@ me if anyone else replies

[spiral flame]

you do need to say your budget

[mild axle]

About 800 GBP

So 1100 USD

[earnest olive]

the O in MSRP stands for Obtainable

2am? you'll be 47th in line

[spiral flame]

I going at 3pm on the 9th

[earnest olive]

someone on reddit did an AMA while camping out at best buy for 18 hours

he was 47th in line

they had 46

[spiral flame]

godddd

[spiral flame]

is that early enough?

I ahve one micro center and two best buys within 2 hours

[mild axle]

I have a friend who got one

He was at Best Buy and got the last one

He was 46th in line

[earnest olive]

sus

I think he's the impostor ngl

[spiral flame]

sus

[fossil cedar]

Whatever you can afford, only you can set your budget tbh we don't know you soooo

[fossil cedar]

800 pounds isn't very much btw you might be able to find a low-mid range pc

[green laurel]

Hey just got a new psu and just wanted to make shore that it was ok to run it fan facing ground like last one or does it matter?

Sure

[muted patio]

Check your case, if the case has a filter on the bottom, fan facing down. If no cutout on the bottom of the case, fan facing up

[green laurel]

Corsair 4000d airflow

Pretty shore it does have filter

[ruby sentinel]

So. Who will want to help me build my first PC?

Just need to buy my M.2 ssd but I have the rest.

[fossil cedar]

Yeah, psu fan facing down then

[fossil cedar]

I'd recommend something like a pilot e depending on your drive budget

[earnest olive]

this guy has been asking the same questions and ignoring answers for a while

[earnest olive]

ouch

what happened?

[terse tiger]

@grizzled berry havent seen you since i left ts

[grizzled berry]

Why did you leave? Lol

[terse tiger]

because i ascended

im reaching new goals, rather than having 13 year olds argue in setups chat lmao

[grizzled berry]

Damn, I feel that. Gets annoying having kids all over that server

Oh, word?

[terse tiger]

ill dm

[grizzled berry]

👍

[violet crown]

Whats a good way to store large GB games from steam
Should I buy a 4TB ssd or is that not what I need?

[muted patio]

Hdd is fine

[white blaze]

4TB SSD, can I get a loan? 😁

[dire dagger]

Is it bad if you use your AC right behind your pc

[obsidian wigeon]

No

But it's best to turn it towards it due to airflow reasons, not needed tho

[ruby sentinel]

Btw. Is mana Target a reliable online store?

Mana Target Household Appliances

[muted patio]

Yeah I'd say nah

not when they have a 6700XT listed for $438

XD

[ruby sentinel]

I see. I was looking for a power supply not a graphics card.

[muted patio]

And the store is new as of 2021

[ruby sentinel]

They have a 3090 for 2,143.57

[muted patio]

It's fake

Another store, same address and contact info: https://www.onlinethreatalerts.com/article/2021/5/17/is-hatitarget-a-scam-review-of-the-online-store/

Don't do it

[ruby sentinel]

You're the best!

Thank you. TwT

[muted patio]

yw

[ruby sentinel]

Man. I'm on the hunt again then.

Also, does Semi modular even matter?

Vs full modular

[muted patio]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

yah

[muted patio]

You need the ATX and CPU power anyway

[obsidian wigeon]

Just more customizable

Less cable mess

[muted patio]

So iMO doesn't matter because you'll be using them no matter what unless you just want it for the looks

Semi Modular just means the ATX and CPU power aren't detachable

[ruby sentinel]

I see. So I can save some bucks with a semi modular

[potent portal]

Maybe, semi are about the same price as full mod anyway

[ruby sentinel]

Aresgame ags 850 w 80 + gold semi and ATX seem good for 70?

The ful costs 90.

Full*

[muted patio]

no

Aresgame is 100% garbage PSU

[ruby sentinel]

Frick.

How so?

[potent portal]

Nothing but D tier garbage, borderline explosive

[muted patio]

They buy good reviews with free mousepads and other things

[obsidian wigeon]

80+ rating means nothing to quality

[muted patio]

And this

[obsidian wigeon]

It's just efficiency

[ruby sentinel]

Damn it.

[obsidian wigeon]

And some safety requirements

iirc

But not quality for sure

[ruby sentinel]

I've seen so many good reviews. TwT

[muted patio]

Yeah because they buy good reviews

[ruby sentinel]

Well there isn't anything else for that price point.

[muted patio]

How many watts you need?

[ruby sentinel]

To be honest

750

Just wanted 850 for future mods.

EVGA B5 80 + bronze?

What does the 80 + even mean?

Like what kind of efficiency?

[potent portal]

It's the efficiency of the voltage conversion.

It's turning 120/240v into 12/5/3.3v

The efficiency is a measure of how much energy actually is converted and how much is lost by way of heat and other factors.

[muted patio]

Don't cheap out on a power supply

It runs literally all of your expensive components

[ruby sentinel]

Jokes on you, everything is cheap.

[potent portal]

Well even so it's more expensive to replace it all in a fire

[ruby sentinel]

But yeah, no EVGA B5 80 + bronze?

Fire bad.

[potent portal]

At a glance B5 shouldn't catch fire at least, let me double check load tests

[muted patio]

Depends on the price of the B5

[ruby sentinel]

80

80 is the lowest it has ever been at.

90 for 850 w

[potent portal]

B5 seems ok, it's the newer version of the B3 which was rated B tier

[ruby sentinel]

@potent portal
I like your cat. It's cute.

[potent portal]

She thinks she's a dog lol, she'll roll over and play fetch

[ruby sentinel]

B is good enough. I passed highschool with all Bs.

She plays fetch?!

So freaking adorable!

[potent portal]

Yeah B is fine until you get into XX80 GPUs

[ruby sentinel]

My dog doesn't even play fetch or with other dogs.

XX80?

Ohhhh

Like 2080 or 3080.

[potent portal]

Her favorite is when we launch rubber bands across the room, she'll chase it and bring it back

[ruby sentinel]

Nah. Most I would use will be the 3060.

Lucky you. She is an amazing cat. Did she live with dogs before?

[muted patio]

biggest gpu is a 3060? Biggest PSU you need then is like 550-600W

[potent portal]

Nope, no dogs

But yeah you don't need a monster PSU for a 3060

[ruby sentinel]

Just in case. Never know if I can even get the mystical 30 series.

Damn. I was checking reddit. And yeah, the PSU was a scam. The aresgame.

It's cheap and they make people say it's good.

[potent portal]

Yep that's why you need to look at independent review sites that do in-depth testing like Toms Hardware and Gamers Nexus

[ruby sentinel]

Why are there so many scum in this world?

[potent portal]

There's profit in being scummy, people have no conscience

[ruby sentinel]

If it wasn't for you guys I would have a burning PC in 1 month.

Maybe less. I'm optimistic.

[obsidian wigeon]

It wouldn't "burn," but certainly gonna fry stuff xD

Expect smoke with it

[ruby sentinel]

Fries? I LOVE FRIES!

Jk. I dislike fries.

Sorry, Foxy. I can't get over your pfp. It's so we'll drawn, holy heck.

[potent portal]

Especially if it's fried silicon, those fumes are toxic

[obsidian wigeon]

mmm

[ruby sentinel]

It's for a 11400.

[obsidian wigeon]

The PSU is still utter crap tbh

I say find a segotep

Forgot which model but there's good one

[potent portal]

There's always EVGA B-stock

[obsidian wigeon]

That too

But don't go for the BR for the love of god

Or anything lower

Low operating temp limit

[potent portal]

Yep if in doubt check the tier list, if it's not on the tier list ask https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[obsidian wigeon]

Especially the N1 lmao

It's a certified bomb

[potent portal]

Right next to the PGM

[ruby sentinel]

So much reading. Brain feels like Aresgame.

I don't like buying so many things form Newegg because they drag to get here, but they have the best prices.

[potent portal]

Yeah sometimes you have to balance the value of your time against the savings you can get

Fortunately for me I live in Cali so it takes 2-3 days for wegg to ship to me

Cali still sucks overall but convenience factor is nice

[obsidian wigeon]

me being asian: cheapest but ships within a week? fine enough for me, i gotta save as much as i can

[ruby sentinel]

Darn.

So. I had a deal yesterday of a 750 w PSU for $75 but the deal is over.

It's normal price was 140

[earnest olive]

what psu?

$140 for 750w.. rm/rmx?

[potent portal]

Even that is usually $140 for 850W

[earnest olive]

true

methinks it's not really a $140 psu just listed that high to make it look like a good deal

[potent portal]

Entirely possible but there's also the possibility it's some multi-rail switching monster unit none of us really pay attention to

[jagged ember]

Heheh they don't know the thing foxy

Do be well drawn tho

[visual tundra]

Good gaming mouse pad ?

And a good wifi card

[twilit root]

I'm trying to build a PC on this motherboard (ASUS Prime X299-Deluxe II LGA 2066 Intel X299) and I'm not getting options that should be available. Knowing the components and its requirements, the products I listed below should be compatible, and therefore, appear in the PC builder but it doesn't. All products are in stock. Can anyone shed some light on the PC builder limitations, or maybe I'm wrong and it's not compatible?

Intel Core i7-9800X
VisionTek Radeon 7750 2GB GDDR5 6M (6x MiniDP) - 900614

[buoyant patrol]

any good laptop recommendations for gaming and school? max $1,000

[robust lake]

Asus a15 is pretty good

I got the 5800h and 3060 version for around 1100

Maybe you can get abit lower specs for less then 1k

[native sentinel]

mousepad, just get whatever you can afford size wise, with sewn edges if you want art/we then get that, but sewn edges. as for wifi, most of them are the same, just get one with N/AC and fits with your use.

[jagged ember]

honestly just get anything with an ax200 for wifi card

its a good wifi chip that supports wifi 6 for when you eventually upgrade to it

[fossil cedar]

Don't we just love that :))))))

[frank stirrup]

lmao

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-z15-rgb-kailh-speed-silver/p/N82E16823953007?Item=N82E16823953007&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-23-953-007-_-06092021 70$ off 😳 is this keyboard good ? 🤔

[ruby sentinel]

Hey, Can I pick up a package before it ships from the wearhouse?

I bought DDR4 ram from new egg and the location is really close to where I live.

[frank stirrup]

just have patience

[jagged ember]

In short, no

[ruby sentinel]

Yeah. Contacted support and they said only at ups not the companies wearhouse.

They used to allow it but not anymore because if Covid.

[obsidian wigeon]

A15 isn't great

It is okay, but not too bad

[marble whale]

any WiFi recommendations?

[stoic island]

Router reccomendation or wifi adapter

[urban trellis]

lmao

[marble whale]

@stoic island wifi providors and routers

[cursive walrus]

so my friend who helped my with my pc, well he has a 2080 he would sell to me for 700$

should i get it?

or try and get a 3060

or 3070

its the last thing i need

[muted patio]

For 700 get something newer. $700 was MSRP 3 years ago.

[cursive walrus]

i kinda just want something now

[earnest olive]

2080 for $700 is a good price in the current market

they are trending at $800-850

2080 is also a better card than 3060

[ruby sentinel]

Hey, do you need an M.2 to boot up the PC?

[earnest olive]

loses to 3070 though

[earnest olive]

no

PCs were booting for many years before m.2 existed

[ruby sentinel]

So I can use an SSD?

[earnest olive]

you don't even need to ssd to boot

[ruby sentinel]

Okie dokie. Thank you!

[earnest olive]

or even a sata device

you can boot off of an IDE hard drive

it'll take 3 hours but it'll boot

[ruby sentinel]

lol

[earnest olive]

you can boot off a USB drive or SD card too

but yes SATA SSDs do a great job as a boot drive

[ruby sentinel]

Very respectful.

Wait

[earnest olive]

I have two systems booting off of SATA SSD

[ruby sentinel]

My brain died.

Very useful*