building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

pulling gpus outta prebuilts ain't a good idea

[stoic island]

depends again

[obsidian wigeon]

the oem cars are meh

[desert gulch]

It can be

[obsidian wigeon]

cards*

also mhmm, well

[signal scarab]

i currently have an RX 580

[stoic island]

fair amount of prebuilts use normal aib cards

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[signal scarab]

ehich is apperantly like a 1660

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

[stoic island]

for 1000cad, I'd rather try to get a 3070

[signal scarab]

none in stock

[desert gulch]

That's how it works

You just gotta find drops and stuff

Best buy had a drop for the 3060ti earlier

Only in usa tho I think

[signal scarab]

oh in canada its much worse for the shortage there isnt restocks for an entire month

[hallow glen]

is 3200 mhz enough for a 3400g if ur running the cpu and igpu

[muted patio]

Yes

Just right

[hallow glen]

16gb enough?

making a build for my friend

[muted patio]

SHould be, allocate 4 to GPU and 12 for the rest of the system

[desert gulch]

Have you already bought that 3400g?

[hallow glen]

its for light gaming and some productivity for his parents

[hallow glen]

no

[desert gulch]

What's it going for rn?

Like price wise

[hallow glen]

idk. but its 150 msrp so thats what i put

[desert gulch]

Yeah with ryzen apus rn I doubt you'll find it at msrp

[hallow glen]

oh no i just looked it up... wtf

[desert gulch]

They're going for like 100 over msrp rn

At least

[hallow glen]

maybe ill see what 3200g is going for

[desert gulch]

Prolly overpruced aswell

[hallow glen]

173 dollars

on amazon

[desert gulch]

Yeah

And it's got 4 less threads than the 3400g

[hallow glen]

yeah

[desert gulch]

Might be time to go 11500 lol

[hallow glen]

and people on ebay are bidding on 3400g up to 200

[desert gulch]

Yup

[hallow glen]

crap. well do u know a good budget mobo for 11500?

[desert gulch]

B560

[hallow glen]

arent those oos

[desert gulch]

Not hard to get at all

Some are oos

But it's like 100x easier than buying a gpu rn

[hallow glen]

im 100 dollars over budget now. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqTYF8

[meager badge]

I never go under the budget with a PC 😄

[ancient frost]

hey guys im trying to buy a pc that is pretty good for its price
core i7 4770
32gb ram
no gpu
512gb ssd
and im gonna put a 1tb hdd i have

[muted patio]

What price

[fossil cedar]

Ditch the hdd for budget 512gb will do loads can always add later

[hallow glen]

posted this in general: my mom is debating getting a m1 mac or a i9 mac. all of the m1 macs she are looking at only have 8gb of ram. i was wondering the performance, since the m1 macs are not upgradeable.

anyone have any insights? she needs a mac

[ancient frost]

here man i added a gpu to the build

[hallow glen]

uhh

what

[fierce thicket]

ouchhh

[fossil cedar]

Get m1 if it's just an office machine etc, i9 mac if it's for adobe stuff as their products aren't ported properly afaik

[hallow glen]

we getting the m1. i found 16gb and 13 inches and 1tb ssd we found everything

it just wasnt on bb

[fossil cedar]

And as much as i dislike apple they do a great job optimising their products

[hallow glen]

we were only looking on bb for some reason

[fossil cedar]

If you get the desktop all in one mac can't remember the name make sure you don't get the base model it only has 2 usb ports

[hallow glen]

macbook

pro

not all in one

[fossil cedar]

Ahh yeah m1 if not editing

[hallow glen]

she needs to take it on the train

not editing data science

[fossil cedar]

And apple optimizes so well 8gb should be plenty

[hallow glen]

we are going with 16gb anyway

[fossil cedar]

Fair no harm playing safe

[ancient frost]

wait

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

here u go

[muted patio]

That list doesn't work lol

[ancient frost]

@hallow glen

[muted patio]

wrong link

[hallow glen]

what

[ancient frost]

works for me

[hallow glen]

no...

it doesnt work

[ancient frost]

wdym

[hallow glen]

thats the website link not the share link

pc or mobile?

[ancient frost]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RhMCXb

here u go

i added a gpu

[hallow glen]

uhhh.... budget was 560.. and we didnt need a gpu

sooo

no

[ancient frost]

oh sorry

[frank stirrup]

Ayo how u feeling mate?

[stoic island]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Dear god I'll have whatever you're smoking

[hallow glen]

yeah that is absolutely... yeah

[fossil cedar]

Dw just buy the gpu for the budget and stare at because you no hate yourself and have no pc :)

[hallow glen]

uhhh... does that mean something?

[fossil cedar]

No I'm just messing lol

[shut rampart]

Can someone help me

My keyboard is doing some weird stuff and idk

[stoic island]

try this rq
https://www.keyboardtester.com/

[muted patio]

That'st he F1 page

[shut rampart]

yha its pressing f1

[stoic island]

did you by any change get water on the keeb?

that's possible to do that

[shut rampart]

no

[stoic island]

any macros?

[shut rampart]

I only have a copy and paste macros

and an auto clicker

but those isn't on

ok now it stop

nvm its doing it again

[stoic island]

take your keeb apart

[shut rampart]

ok

now what

[stoic island]

look at the switch for f1

[shut rampart]

Nothing

Meh I guess I will buy a new one

Just randomly happen

[stoic island]

see if there's anything that's pressing the pcb

[muted patio]

Yeah pop the keycap off and blow it out

[shut rampart]

Ok

I think that worked

Well I think that fixed it

[stoic island]

keeb is a very commonplace word for talking about keebs :P

[tight sorrel]

peripherals chat is full of it

[tulip garnet]

hello

i need a pc build 1000$

can someone help me pls?

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTkfz7

[tulip garnet]

with ryzen cpu

[muted patio]

10400/11400 is better than Ryzen 3600/3600x

[tulip garnet]

intel good for editing and gaming?

[muted patio]

Better than ryzen 3600/3600x at your price point

[tulip garnet]

okay got it

thank you ❤️

[muted patio]

5600x is too expensive at the $1000 price point

[tulip garnet]

i see

[uncut schooner]

I need serious help

I've had my pc for a year now but suddenly it turns on and nothing else happens

No HDMI signal, the USB ports working

nothing

[tight sorrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JCxg7X

same as above but with Ryzen 5600x. $70 more

[muted patio]

BX500 should be avoided

No better than a good HDD

Also rolling the dice on whether the B450 MB will come with the Ryzen 5000 BIOS or not

[uncut schooner]

lol I feel stupid

the cpu cable came loose

[mossy venture]

So I'm adding fans to my build

I cant tell if this is a fan slot or not

[neon anchor]

Only fans?

Also no

[muted patio]

I mean, where would the fan move the air to?

[mossy venture]

Thought so

Ssd slot right?

[neon anchor]

Regular 3.5” drive

[mossy venture]

That's what my friend said anyways

Ty

Another question, same problem

[neon anchor]

Yuh

[mossy venture]

Could one go here? Or no, since it has the cover and no screw holes

[tight sorrel]

place to mount water pump?

[lyric thistle]

there is a 2.5" slot right under all the 3.5" slots looks like

[mossy venture]

If it can't go there idt I have room for a fourth fan

[neon anchor]

More drive slots like a CD drive,

[mossy venture]

No nkt the bottom

The very back of it, further to the right there's 2 other fans

[tight sorrel]

can you tell us what the case is?

[mossy venture]

Cooler master n400

[neon anchor]

The bottom is 2.5” not 3.5” my bad but the big ones on top are for CD drives or any peripheral expansion slots you can fit there. The front of your case should have the removable pieces there. No screw holes for fans

[mossy venture]

Yeah it has the removable pieces. Atleasy it looks like it

Ty

Damn

Bought 2 p12 pwms

Can send it back to Amazon but kinda needed the airflow

[neon anchor]

I mean if you got the extra fan headers on your mobo just use some zip ties and shove them where they can fit

[mossy venture]

I dont even think that'd work, its a wierd csse

Case

[neon anchor]

F

[mossy venture]

I mean maybe if I put it on the other side of the cade

[neon anchor]

Get a better case with more fan space then

[tight sorrel]

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/n400/#image-Item4

front 2 fans, side 2 fans, top 2 fans, back 1 fan

[mossy venture]

In the back (it has a front and back pannel)

How tf

I mean there's that

Ignore my bed

But id have to take the cover off

[lyric thistle]

fixate on the bed

[mossy venture]

Oh wait

I can put one inside of the side panel

[lyric thistle]

yea

[mossy venture]

The part I pulled off

The one I put in is bringing air in, should this one take air out?

Or both in

[lyric thistle]

it looks like the case could come with two different side panels

[tight sorrel]

shows you on the product page

[mossy venture]

My panel has a place for it

[lyric thistle]

as well as this

[mossy venture]

Should I have it intake or exhaust, I have 2intake 1 exhaust currently

[lyric thistle]

I think for intake either side

unless you flipped the downdraft cooler's fan so it pulls air away from the heatsink, and exhausts it out the side

left side panel

as for the right side panel, always intake

[mossy venture]

It's going ro be facing the heatsink

To

Intake or exhaust

Oh I get it

Gonna do intake, since I don't have a downdraft fan

There is one on the side of the heatsink though

[lyric thistle]

so like this,

arrows indicate airflow :^)

[south jewel]

the tpa drawings six year old me did

[mossy venture]

It's going to be facing the heatsink

And there's thay fan on the left side

I'm putting the fan on the panel that goes right there

[lyric thistle]

yea that should be exhaust no matter

[mossy venture]

Alr

[lyric thistle]

on the panel that goes right there?

[mossy venture]

Yes

Oh ffs I'm a moron

[lyric thistle]

?

[mossy venture]

I sat on the screws and lost one

[lyric thistle]

oof

put screws in cup

[mossy venture]

I'm dumb af lmao

Oh thank God I found it

[lyric thistle]

xd

[mossy venture]

Ffs

Neither of the fans are spinning

Just plugged literally 15 cables back in and gotta undo it again

[lyric thistle]

?

[mossy venture]

That thing towards the top is a pwm connector right?

[tight sorrel]

check your motherboard manual

[mossy venture]

You can't see it well in the pic

[mossy venture]

Don't have it :p the builds a lil old, adding more fans now

[lyric thistle]

look online

[mossy venture]

And im a dumb*** who didn't keep it

I broke one of the 3pwm pin connectors cause I'm a genius

Luckily I still have 2

Oh wait maybe not

[marble whale]

what's the best gaming CPU?

[mossy venture]

I think the one I broke and the one I thought was another is a regular fan connector

Not pwm

[fossil cedar]

Depends on budget, but the absolute best of the best gaming cpu is Ryzen 9 5900x

It's not cheap tho

[mossy venture]

Oh wait no im just dumb. Those are rgb connectors I think? If those are a thing?

[fossil cedar]

Rgb connectors are

It should say sys_fan or chasis fan or something for a pwm header

And rgb or rainbow or argb or something for rgb

[mossy venture]

I found a slot for a fan

I just can't find a second one

[marble whale]

under 300$ usd

[mossy venture]

11th gen i5 probably, 11600k.

[marble whale]

ok any Ryzen ones?

[mossy venture]

5600x is the only one I can think of

There's the 3600 but 11th gen i5 kicks its butt

[marble whale]

ok

GPU?

[mossy venture]

Budget on the gpu?

[marble whale]

600 usd\

1st time builder

[fossil cedar]

I5 11400 and a b560 motherboard

[mossy venture]

Well if you don't have a time limit, you could try your luck at best buy drops for a 3060 ti/3070

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 5 5600x technically but it's overpriced

[mossy venture]

^^

Check out r/harewareswap if you're fine with paying inflated market prices. You could probably find a used 2060super/2070 for around 600 if you're lucky, but anything else you'd have to stalk best buy on tuesdays/get lucky on the newegg shuffle with a 3060/ti (maybe)

[fossil cedar]

3060/3060 ti/3070 if you're really lucky

[mossy venture]

^^

So what's your budget for the entire build?

[marble whale]

if you look on the amd website it's around 280 usd

1500 usd

[mossy venture]

Because tbh I'd reccomend spending a bit less on the cpu (10th gen i5 would be enough) and trying for a 2070/s

Yeah I'd reccomend switching up what the budget is dedicated to a bjt

If you're gaming that is

[marble whale]

you can always change a CPU right?

[mossy venture]

A 10400 would be good enough

Yeah but you might end up needing to change mobo depending on what you upgrade to

[marble whale]

what's that?

[mossy venture]

Sorry, motherboard

[fossil cedar]

It's still too much for a 6 core chip, it's 100$ more than 11400

[mossy venture]

Oh crap i need to go

[fossil cedar]

11400*

[mossy venture]

I'll leave this to you pato

[fossil cedar]

@marble whale use https://pcpartpicker.com/list btw

[mossy venture]

Id say 10400 personally and put more into the gpu

It's enough for even a 3070

[earnest olive]

i check r/hardwareswap every 3 hours

[marble whale]

ok

[mossy venture]

I stalk it

[earnest olive]

2070 for $600 is about as likely as the shortage ending

[marble whale]

liquid cooled build

[fossil cedar]

11400 is a big upgrade for 20$ go 11400 anyday

[earnest olive]

don't bother with liquid cooling for an i5

[fossil cedar]

Get an id cooling se 224xt

Or gammaxx 400

Or vetroo v5

[marble whale]

any sustenance for a motherboard?

[fossil cedar]

B560

Not from as rock

[marble whale]

ok

[earnest olive]

what's wrong with asrock b560

[fossil cedar]

Did you see hw unboxed vid?

[earnest olive]

you mean the HUB video of the cheapest board not running an 11600K at full spec?

[marble whale]

the hub?

[fossil cedar]

It doesn't run 11400 at full spec without power limits

[marble whale]

youtube or something else?

[fossil cedar]

Hardware unboxed, it's a YouTube channel

[marble whale]

ok

[earnest olive]

just avoid the bottom of the barrel and it's fine lol

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[marble whale]

?

[earnest olive]

does anyone really expect a $70 mobo to handle 180W sustained

[fossil cedar]

It's like 120$ atm ;-;

[marble whale]

gigabyte?

[earnest olive]

well that's just an out of stock issue

[stoic island]

B560 hdv is still 80$ back-ordered iirc

[earnest olive]

I've had zero problems with $105 asrock b560m pro4/ac

great board

[stoic island]

And no one really expects that board to do like 200w

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough then

[earnest olive]

yeah that video was just spreading FUD for no reason

[fossil cedar]

But it struggled to do 11400 properly with no limits

[earnest olive]

we all know intel cpus can draw a lot of power

[marble whale]

Gigabyte Z390?

[earnest olive]

expecting a $70-80 mobo to sustain as much power as a 5900x draws is lol

[fossil cedar]

Not compatible

[earnest olive]

you need a 400 or 500 series board

[fossil cedar]

Are you using https://pcpartpicker.com/list like i said earlier?

[marble whale]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Preferably 500

[earnest olive]

z490 or b560 to extract maximum performance from an 11400

depends on how cheap you can get the z490

$100 z490 boards exist on used market

[fossil cedar]

Then select the compatibility filter because z390 should not show up

[fossil cedar]

Z490 needs a bios update tho :/

[earnest olive]

used z490 certainly exists as an option

you can ask seller if they updated or can update bios

it's just worth considering until b560 stock is rock solid

don't pay $120 for bottom of the barrel b560

[fossil cedar]

True

[marble whale]

MSI MPG Z390?

[stoic island]

Z390 doesn't work for 11th gen

Its a completely different socket

[marble whale]

my friend left so we can't talk any more tonight on discord

ok

[fossil cedar]

Okay?

[marble whale]

aio or air?

[fossil cedar]

Air

@marble whale this is advertising another discord server and isn't aloud btw

[marble whale]

srry

[fossil cedar]

Get an id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5 cooler

[stoic island]

Fuma 2 works

[fossil cedar]

For an i5 all that's needed is this

[muted patio]

Have a look at the rest of #rules while you're here 😉

[marble whale]

i didn't know

[fossil cedar]

Use them eyes 👀

[marble whale]

jusr read it

[marble whale]

is the v5 loud?

[fossil cedar]

No they're all the same performance quite until it gets to high fan speeds which probably don't happen if you have a decent fan curve

[marble whale]

?

16gbs good to start with?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 16gb 3600 ballistix

[marble whale]

rgb

[fossil cedar]

2x8gb kit

[marble whale]

rgb build

[fossil cedar]

If you want rgb get ballistix rgb then

[marble whale]

partpicker doesn't have ballistix

[muted patio]

yes they do

[marble whale]

i don't see it

[muted patio]

RGB 3600 C16 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

[round stream]

the non rgb is 94 or something right

[marble whale]

i trout that was the brand

thought

[muted patio]

Crucial is the brand

Ballistix is the model

[fossil cedar]

92 i think but they wanted rgb so

[round stream]

ok

[marble whale]

storage?

[fossil cedar]

Pilot e 1tb

[marble whale]

ssd or hdd

[fossil cedar]

Ssd.... Pilot e

[marble whale]

wherer is it?

[fossil cedar]

In storageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[muted patio]

Mushkin Pilot E

[fossil cedar]

Use the search feature

[marble whale]

y so expensive?

[fossil cedar]

It's normal 1tb prices

If you want half the storage the price will half

[marble whale]

Team CX2 1 TB ssd is 85 usd

[muted patio]

And also garbage performance

[fossil cedar]

But it's 💩

[muted patio]

Because it's a SATA drive

not NVME

Up to you though, if spending $100 on a drive, may as well go NVME yeah?

[marble whale]

yeah

should i go 4 a hdd too?

[fossil cedar]

Nah

You can add later if you want

[muted patio]

1 TB should last you a bit

[marble whale]

ok 4 gaming/

?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

I used 240gb ssd for ages

Was fine

But min ssd nowadays 512gb

[marble whale]

boot drive?

[fossil cedar]

Your ssd will be your boot drive

You don't need a separate boot drive

[marble whale]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Just get a pilot e it's worth the extra money

[marble whale]

The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.

should i care?

[fossil cedar]

No

[lyric thistle]

usually disables 2 ports

neat

[fossil cedar]

It's fine tho

[marble whale]

GPU?

[fossil cedar]

3060 ti/3070

Yes they are out of stock it's normal btw

[marble whale]

radeon 6800 good?

[fossil cedar]

If you can get for a decent price yeah

[marble whale]

12gbs for 495 usd

[muted patio]

6800 for 495??

[fossil cedar]

But 3060 ti/3070 better imo as you can mine way better on it, nvenc is amazing if you want to stream/record ,no equivalent for nvenc on amd

[marble whale]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

That's not real, the msrp is 550

[muted patio]

Uh

that's a scam

[fossil cedar]

Get one from amd.com or best buy or newegg shuffle

[muted patio]

6800's go for almost $1,000 in a store now

$900?

[marble whale]

radeon 6700

[fossil cedar]

It's meh

[muted patio]

6700 goes for $800

[fossil cedar]

If you can get for 480$ on amd.com yes

[marble whale]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt

[muted patio]

6700XT isn'ta bad card, just bad for the money

It's getting them in stock that's the issue

[fossil cedar]

Yeah check next Thursday for stock

[muted patio]

if you can get one they aren't bad

[marble whale]

radeon rx 6800 16gbs for 580 usd

[fossil cedar]

If you can find it for that price

Only from amd.com and stock is wackk

[marble whale]

https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5458373400/us

[hallow glen]

oos

[fossil cedar]

Yeah we know the link but they not in stock

[marble whale]

case?

[vague oracle]

Im using my old build i7 6700k/ RX 480 rn while waiting for my mobo to get fixed and its really making me appreciate my 3700x

[fossil cedar]

Td500 mesh, or corsair 4000d airflow or p400a or p360a

[marble whale]

water block for CPU and GPU?

liquid cooled

[fossil cedar]

No

[marble whale]

why?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh because a custom liquid loop will be a pain and cost you 200-400$ alone for just the cooling stuff

And you'd need to take apart your gpu etc

[marble whale]

idc

[fossil cedar]

Bruh what do you mean you don't care?

You won't have enough money to buy your gpu at that rate

Or you could get a cpu upgrade

[marble whale]

that i have to do all that stuff

[fossil cedar]

But it's a waste of moneyyyyyyy

[marble whale]

found a Ryzen 5 for 180 usd

[fossil cedar]

I5 11400

I5 11400 or i7 10700 at your price point

[marble whale]

ok

[vague oracle]

That case honestly looks pretty bad

[fossil cedar]

Don't ask for suggestions if you aren't gonna listen pls n thanks

[marble whale]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2t6qqs/gigabyte-c200-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-gb-c200g
?

[fossil cedar]

Ahem

Corsair 4000x would also work i suppose

[marble whale]

ok

[tight sorrel]

I would add Lancool ii mesh and NR600

[fossil cedar]

Matx :/

[marble whale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCK2FT/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw37

?

[fossil cedar]

Something about me just doesn't like lian li

That's just not what i said lol

[tight sorrel]

oh? bad experience?

[fossil cedar]

Never bought their products just feel icky when i look at an o11

[tight sorrel]

😆

no accounting for taste I suppose

[muted patio]

The 011 is just nah IMO

balancing the airflow is a PITA

[vague oracle]

I used to like it but it just doesnt look good anymore once i saw it in person

[lyric thistle]

o11d more like versa h18 tg 😎

[tight sorrel]

this

[fossil cedar]

It's also soooooooo expensive

[fossil cedar]

Also the awkward airflow situation, not to mention most people have all exhaust fan cuz intake looks ugly cus of the cage XD

[tight sorrel]

wait what? no man. I was actually surprised how affordable it was.. at least innitially when it came onto the market

[tight sorrel]

this though. 100%

[vague oracle]

Im lookijng forward to build in my lancool II mesh

Gotta wait for my mobo to come in

I finally returned my 6700xt today

[lyric thistle]

it's wild that cases with the right side fan mounts like that so often have that configured as exhaust

[fossil cedar]

155 but it comes with 0 fans

[fossil cedar]

Oof why

[vague oracle]

Wasnt satisfied with performance

[tight sorrel]

what you getting instead?

[vague oracle]

3080/3090 or 6900xt

whichever i get my hands on first

[tight sorrel]

wait, do you have a temporary GPU you can use in the mean time?

[vague oracle]

Im using my gaming rig for work and gaming rn

Im looking for a gpu for my work pc

[tight sorrel]

oh cool

[vague oracle]

gaming rig has a 3070

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 6700xt downgrade from 3070

[vague oracle]

Yeah

Just go with either a P400a, lian li lancool 2 Mesh, or corsair 4000D/X

[tight sorrel]

dont like the Helios.

[fossil cedar]

I've told em about 4 times

[vague oracle]

Gigabyte has terrible cases, Asus cases are ehh

[tight sorrel]

Gigabyte, Asus and MSI.. not a single case I like from any of them

[vague oracle]

What company made that 12 fan case that had no airflow whatsoever?

[tight sorrel]

Abkoncore

[lyric thistle]

😩

[marble whale]

any full tower cases?

[tight sorrel]

Corsair 5000d

[marble whale]

rgb?

[tight sorrel]

any case has RGB, if you willing to get RGB fans for it

[fossil cedar]

Td500 mesh or corsair 5000x

[marble whale]

Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port, but the Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port will not be usable.

is this ok?

[fossil cedar]

Yes but no you should not be buying a b450 board

[marble whale]

i tried other motherboards too

[fossil cedar]

What cpu wre you putting in that 🤦

[neon anchor]

I’m just gonna do that build Plato made for me just so I can play Tetris

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[marble whale]

Ryzen 5

[neon anchor]

Which ryzen 5

[fossil cedar]

Don't it's worse than the intel chips i told you to go

[fossil cedar]

I'm guessing 2600 considering they said 180$

[marble whale]

Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port, but the Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port will not be usable.

samething with a 450

[fossil cedar]

Brooo

Aight have a 💩 pc

If you aint gonna listen have fun with a bleh 1500$ pc

[tight sorrel]

wait... his budget is 1500?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[marble whale]

yeah

usd

[tight sorrel]

dude, no to B450

NO!

[vague oracle]

Go intel, screw ryzen at this price point

[marble whale]

ok

[fossil cedar]

They are being very stubborn told them about 4 times if they want a crap pc experience let em have it i guess

[vague oracle]

The crap PC experience ain’t fun

Trust me

[marble whale]

i wanted to go with Ryzen products

gaming and streaming

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bubblegum-table-flip-adventure-time-angry-mad-gif-3436933

[marble whale]

?

[fossil cedar]

this this this

[marble whale]

?

fixed it

thx

power supply?

[fossil cedar]

Revolution df 750w/850w whichever cheaper

[marble whale]

ok thx

[zinc otter]

Are reset switches on the front panel supposed to be positive negative or negative positive?

[vague oracle]

Doesn’t really matter I think

You can always flip it if it doesn’t work

[muted patio]

Power and reset don't matter

[blazing aurora]

the amd fanboy era has had irrevocable damage on the pc community

i've had people who know nothing about pc's try to tell ME that amd was always optimal because "their friends said intel sucks and amd is better"

[muted patio]

Well, also the reviewers TBH

[astral pier]

Don’t know anything abt PCs so I was wondering if you guys can make me a pc list for 1600 for games like cod, rust and mc? I would also use it for light streaming and preferably the color white but it doesn’t really matter

[shrewd fjord]

@astral pier say that in general you will get more responses

[astral pier]

Ok

[austere wagon]

I like amd but y’all are right fanboys are annoying as hell my personal preference is amd if you like intel then cool, if you don’t care then cool

I simply like it so I don’t gotta get another motherboard when I upgrade since I don’t plan on overclocking stuff

[shrewd fjord]

@austere wagon 💯

[austere wagon]

Sick

And now that i know how to build pc I can now help my friends with it so pro

Though it’s sad when my friends get better systems with there big budgets lol

[rich helm]

Except am4 is dead now

[austere wagon]

That’s true

[shrewd fjord]

@austere wagon I have 0 dollar budget cause I'm rebuilding my truck

[austere wagon]

Funnnn

[potent portal]

In the low range Intel is dominating with 11th gen. Midrange Intel is great with 10th OR 11th gen. High end... Ryzen all the way if you need the cores. 11900k shouldn't exist.

[ancient wraith]

My pc just blue screened

It said video management internal

[muted patio]

Download WhoCrashed, install, hit Analyze and see what it says

https://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe

[ancient wraith]

Ok

this

[muted patio]

Ya, or just click the link I posted, should DL it automatically

Driver issue yay

GPU and chipset drivers up to date?

[ancient wraith]

i think so

lemme check

how do i check chipset version

[muted patio]

Chipset drivers from the motherboard manufacturer and not Windows?

[ancient wraith]

i recently updated

i got the from gigabyte

[muted patio]

Should be fine then, not much info in the DMP file log

[ancient wraith]

so how do i check chipset version i have

ill update if i can

[muted patio]

Google motherboard model

Go to manus website

Hit the SUpport button usually in the upper right of the page

[ancient wraith]

how do i see what version i have

[muted patio]

What MB is it

[ancient wraith]

im on the driver page but i need too see what chipset version i have now

[muted patio]

Mmmm, I've never looked at current version. I just know the last time I updated and whether a new one is out or not. There isn'ta section in Device Manager for chipset and the version numbers are often different for the different components

[ancient wraith]

ok

will it be ok if i just download the latest

[muted patio]

The date on that is NOvember of 2020

If you've done them recently probably no need lol

What CPU is this?

[ancient wraith]

r5 3600

[muted patio]

No onboard GPU then, k

[ancient wraith]

but what caused the vlue screen

[muted patio]

Some driver issue

[ancient wraith]

so how could i fix it

[muted patio]

No guarantees but DDU the current GPU driver and install it again

Might also be due to the game you're playing

The GPU driver crashed but we've got no info on the why

[ancient wraith]

i have already used ddu this month

i think lol

i hate pc

[muted patio]

In safe mode?

[ancient wraith]

yah

im pretty sure u helped me

[muted patio]

Eh, I'd just carry on then

UNless this is happening all the time

[ancient wraith]

if it happens again ill ddu

thank papi

[muted patio]

YW

[oblique marten]

Hey man, thats a Logitech G13 game pad made for gaming but also works with making tracks and tunes.

[ancient wraith]

i might do ddu right now

hoiw do i do ddu again

[indigo prism]

Is anyone available to help me on voice or video with this aio and fans connecting part? I've been absolutely confused about it for about 2 days

[frank stirrup]

Gimme 10 mins yeah?

[indigo prism]

Sure, thank you!

[indigo prism]

Thank you for the offer but it's gotten pretty late I need to call it a night

[frank stirrup]

Ahh maybe later then

[shut lagoon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sww3p2 using for video editing, streaming, and playing games on 1440p high hz ultra wide. Anything just off the bat yall would recommend changing? helping a friend

[frank stirrup]

Do you want to overclock that 5900x?

[shut lagoon]

yep

[frank stirrup]

Ahh I see

Whats your budget?

@shut lagoon

[shut lagoon]

3k

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MBg3p2

[frank stirrup]

@shut lagoon

[shut lagoon]

he already got aio, he just doesn't need 64gb of ram lol, wants 1tb of nvme

he also said rgb is a must

[frank stirrup]

Thats a trash aio that he got tbh

but yeah then go with waht you sent

since he doesnt want anything betterjust exactly that

[silk timber]

Hello, so I got a b450 gaming pro carbon ac. It has the plate with it and I don't know where it goes, what it does or if I need to use ut

[frank stirrup]

Thats to mount cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frank stirrup]

onto cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's placed underneath the mobo

under the socket

[silk timber]

So like a support then

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[silk timber]

I think I see the pegs of the old one

[frank stirrup]

its a mouning bracket

[silk timber]

Should I replace it anyway?

[jagged ember]

Put it on the back of the cooler

[frank stirrup]

What old one?

[jagged ember]

I think it's called a backplate

[silk timber]

I am replacing my motherboard

[frank stirrup]

tis the mounting bracket

[jagged ember]

The little metal tabs that come with other coolers are called mounting bracket, no?

[silk timber]

I think I see what to do

The new motherboard has different positions and such, so I'm nervous

[frank stirrup]

what cpu cooler did you have previously

[frank stirrup]

The things on the cpu side of mobo are the mounting brackets.

You do be right

[frank stirrup]

Whats ur old mobo?

[silk timber]

Asus prime a320m-k

I'm not sure what plugs will now be used, what old ones won't be

[chrome ruin]

ok i need help again

[tight sorrel]

this goes behind the motherboard, undearneath the CPU. I honeslty have no idea why it is not attached. I have vener seen it detached

[frank stirrup]

And you were using the stock cooler?

[silk timber]

It's a new plate with the new motherboard

[jagged ember]

Yeah, same advice applies

[frank stirrup]

It comes detached

[tight sorrel]

I know, but every new AM4 motherboard I have bought (about 4) have had this plate already mounted

[jagged ember]

That plate still goes behind the mobo where the cpu socket is

[muted patio]

That should have been installed along with the plastic mounting tabs for AM4. Was this an open box motherboard or something?

[frank stirrup]

It comes with the mobo not cooler

[silk timber]

My cpu fan is a cooler master. I did get a stealth wraith or whatever with the ryzen 5 2600 cpu, but didn't have the rgb like the one that came with my pc so

[tight sorrel]

I know it comes with the motherboard, but it should have been attached, not lose

[frank stirrup]

Nah it comes detached

[jagged ember]

Stealth is sad anyways

[chrome ruin]

I have a budget of 1000 for a pc and monitor, and i get a free 1080 from a friend when he upgrades, i wanna get as much under 1000 as possible with good performance. Im just really dumb with this stuff, can yall help pls?

[muted patio]

Not on any of the boards I've purchased

[frank stirrup]

I got it detached

on my X570

[jagged ember]

With my sample size of 1, it was detached

[silk timber]

I wish I could find a reasonably priced gpu upgrade from my 1050 ti

[frank stirrup]

Just hold it on the back and screw it in

[tight sorrel]

yes. what you screw into it depends on the cooler. Some require the black plastic brackets, others screw directly into the backplate

[frank stirrup]

Theres a lotta boards it comes detached tbh...

[frank stirrup]

The bckplate with the mobo is for stock coolers iirc

coolermaster and other aftermarket coolers have their own thing

[tight sorrel]

not even, the wraith stealth screws into the bracket, the wraith prism uses the brackets. its a crazy mixed up world

[frank stirrup]

The brackets it uses screw into that backplate tho

[silk timber]

Next question. Plugs going to sata6G_2 and sata6G_3. Do they have to go to the same spots on the new MB?

Or can Sata just go in sata

[frank stirrup]

use sata 6G first

especially for SSDs

[silk timber]

I figured that bit, but does spots 2 and 3 need to go back in 2 or 3 or just as long as they are 6G?

[frank stirrup]

what?

[jagged ember]

I don't think it matters

Just plug into a 6gbps port

[silk timber]

Alright, thank you. This has me so nervous about proper plug placement

[frank stirrup]

what plugs?

[jagged ember]

Sata data

I've randomly plugged my drive in different sata ports while doing stuff with no harm done

[silk timber]

Should I peel the cover off the back plate for the MB or leave it?

[frank stirrup]

there shouldnt be a cover

[silk timber]

The one in my pc currently just seems to be sitting in there without the material peeled off

[jagged ember]

Cover?

Like, a plastic peel?

[tight sorrel]

what do you mean "go back"?

[silk timber]

The plastic peel

[jagged ember]

Oh I unpeel everything

[frank stirrup]

Thats not a peel

[jagged ember]

It's satisfying

But I don't see a peel

[ancient wraith]

My pc just said it couldn't find a boot device

[frank stirrup]

its there so the metal doesnt scratch the mobo

[silk timber]

The one in my pc has it still on. So I didn't know if it gets taken off to stick or it's a protection thing

[ancient wraith]

The I restarted and it worked

Is that bad

[jagged ember]

Happened to me once

Controller just borked

Not a problem unless it happens often

[ancient wraith]

Like monthly

[jagged ember]

Hm

[ancient wraith]

Should I get a new ssd

[jagged ember]

Scan ur drive lol

[ancient wraith]

Twice this month

[jagged ember]

With the windows tools

See if it picks up anything

[ancient wraith]

Crystal disk info says it's good

[frank stirrup]

Did you pirate ur installer for windows

[ancient wraith]

No

[frank stirrup]

like download from somewhere other than windows site

[ancient wraith]

I got it from windows

But the code is a different story

[silk timber]

Also

Random thing

[frank stirrup]

you activated using a script?

[ancient wraith]

No

Bought it from a sketchy place on the internet

[silk timber]

The antistatic bracelet. I have it hooked up to a carburetor 😶

[jagged ember]

I just touched my psu that was plugged into the wall for discharge

[frank stirrup]

this best

[jagged ember]

Who needs antistatic bracelet

[ancient wraith]

how do you use windows disk scanner

[jagged ember]

(which is a rubber band according to verge)

Just right click on drive and tell it to scan?

[ancient wraith]

simple i guess

[jagged ember]

Yeah, no command line needed

Although possible

[ancient wraith]

im not seeing scan

lol

with malwarebytes

[frank stirrup]

sfc /scannow

[ancient wraith]

ok

[frank stirrup]

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

in that order

wait for scannow

[silk timber]

Can someone help me identify this wifi card and possibly a value?

[frank stirrup]

btw open command prompt as admin

[ancient wraith]

ik

[frank stirrup]

what wifi card?

[ancient wraith]

but all at once or seperate

'

[jagged ember]

Check Asus website and use s/n number to see what it is

It do be single antenna tho so

[still roost]

ThugPug98#8342 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[silk timber]

The antenna doesn't have anything on it much for identity

[jagged ember]

Well, it's old

I'm pretty sure all modern cards have dual antennas

Also I'm on mobile so search hard

[tight sorrel]

sure. I seen that card before. thats Kevin. hes not worth much. been around the block one too many times, if you catch my drift

[muted patio]

$20

Asus PCI-E wifi card

[jagged ember]

I felt like 15

But I wasn't sure lol

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-005K-01621

[silk timber]

Damn it kevin

Also, maybe some help with the antenna to?

I've tried looking on Asus for this antenna but hardly found a single antenna looking like it

[tight sorrel]

that card is old dude. single antenna

[silk timber]

My pc in the internet area had the 1gbs option so I assume this card and or antenna could still do it

[jagged ember]

Mm

[muted patio]

Nah

That's N300

[jagged ember]

I would bet money against that

[silk timber]

So maybe both for 30 or 40???

Optimisticly?

[muted patio]

That whole kit sold for $15 on Ebay

[jagged ember]

Lmao

[muted patio]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Desktop-Wifi-Kit-PCIe-x1-card-antenna-/154329233134

The reason you can't find anything about it is that it originally came with a motherboard as a kit

[silk timber]

Gotcha. Damn, was hoping for that optimism XD

[frank stirrup]

nothing wrong with single antenna

[jagged ember]

Slow and old

'Never should have come to midgard'

[silk timber]

The size difference in these mbs has me worried about mounting

[jagged ember]

?

Mbps is Mbps

[silk timber]

Mbs=motherboards

[jagged ember]

Ohh

As long as your case fits the form factor of your mobo

Is good

[silk timber]

Not sure about that for my case

[jagged ember]

This is a lot of after buying research to be doing

[silk timber]

Yea, it's my first mb swap

[jagged ember]

Mm

[silk timber]

I bought this used and for 80. So it's not that bad

[jagged ember]

Look up your case on Google

[frank stirrup]

then you take help BEFORE buying a new one...

[jagged ember]

Should tell you

[silk timber]

If it doesn't work anyway

[jagged ember]

You can just get a new case ig

[silk timber]

I don't really know the name of my case

[jagged ember]

Hm

That's fair, it's not really engraved on there

Just try it

If it fits, it sits

[silk timber]

Skytech archangel

[potent portal]

Looks like that fits micro and standard ATX. You may need a few more standoffs.

[fossil cedar]

I'd change the power supply to an enermax revolution df and a corsair 5000d airflow or td500 mesh instead of 4000d because then you can top mount the aio, get a pilot e 1tb then,

[topaz vale]

Hey guys, I got a 5000D airflow which can fit 3x120 front, 3x120 side, 3x120 top, and 1x120 rear case fans. What should the push/pull of that config be?

Also are the Arctic P12 pwm 120 fans good enough? I really don't wanna blow a ton on noctua fans

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

also p12 and f12 are pretty similar

get whichever's cheaper

and hmm, for that case

i say the front is intake

top also intake

for the side, im not sure tbh

[topaz vale]

Oh I meant to say f whoops, yeah the p12s are louder so that's a no no

Wait no

It's the other way around lmao

[crisp karma]

Anyone know how to fix msi motherboard not recognizing Pci slot 1x network adapters? I turned on Lan Option Rom and it works for a few days than I have to flash the bios again for my network adapter to work

[fossil cedar]

3 in front 3 in in side as intake, 1 exhaust back, 3 exhaust top, that way positive pressure is achieved

[fossil cedar]

the p12s are basically cheap a12x25 so very good

[topaz vale]

Other person said top as intake? I mean the way you said makes more sense but why did they say that exactly?

[fossil cedar]

top shouldnt be intake, heat rises

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

mhmm

[topaz vale]

That makes sense for sure

[obsidian wigeon]

physics

[fossil cedar]

yeah lol

[obsidian wigeon]

fooled me again lmao

anyway

thanks for that correction

[fossil cedar]

np :)

[obsidian wigeon]

suppose i now know what to do with my case later

[topaz vale]

Omg lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

now that's a nice simple but quick pic

[topaz vale]

After I buy these case fans, my build will FINALLY be ready to assemble. 4 months of gathering parts, I'm so excited

[potent portal]

That helps visualize the flow pattern too

[obsidian wigeon]

pin it i suggest

lel

[topaz vale]

That's a good ref!

[crisp karma]

What would happen if you had 3 intake and 3 exhaust?

would heat just stay in the same place?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it would still flow

[fossil cedar]

then you would have equal pressure, but possitive pressure is better less dust

but its never equal

[obsidian wigeon]

equal pressure is gonna give more dust

[potent portal]

The intake would still push air in, the exhaust still moves it out

[fossil cedar]

always either positive or negative

[topaz vale]

I'm so glad arctic sells 5 packs, I need 10 fans so it works out lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i wanna find a desk that i can place my machine on top of

it being on the floor is attracting dust already

[crisp karma]

I wish they would sell 6 packs

[topaz vale]

From what I've read 5 fan vs 6 fan isn't a huge difference

[potent portal]

Here's a more updated one, the first was... well you saw all the 3.5" bays

[fossil cedar]

just buy a 5 pack and 1 single fan then

a single fan is like 9$

[topaz vale]

First one looking like a server rack lmao

[crisp karma]

true

[obsidian wigeon]

i would get arctic fan pack but

my case's exhaust is 90/92mm

ree

[topaz vale]

What case do you have?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a prebuilt

[topaz vale]

Oof

[obsidian wigeon]

asus rog strix ga15

well it's not horrible

has decent amount of vents

[topaz vale]

Prebuilts aren't horrible, they're just not ✨optimal✨ and if you're snobby about it then that's a problem lmao. A lot of my buddies I game with have prebuilts and I was considering getting one until I scored a 3060ti

[obsidian wigeon]

My prebuilt is pretty much the better ones up there tho

The case is ATX

[potent portal]

I have a 80mm that spins at 5k rpm lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Altho on the smaller side

Mobo is mATX

but ion mind

[crisp karma]

🤔

[obsidian wigeon]

It can fit ATX later lol

I just want more fans for it atm

[topaz vale]

W-what? That scares me

[obsidian wigeon]

Has only single exhaust fan

The front and top has none

And I hate this stock exhaust fan, it's loud

[topaz vale]

It's odd to see how many prebuilts have microatx boards in atx cases

[crisp karma]

Does anyone know what channel I can go to so I can ask for help with a mobo issue?

[potent portal]

I had to set the fan to 60% so it stays a little under 3k, otherwise it's loud

[obsidian wigeon]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory

[topaz vale]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory ?

[crisp karma]

I can ask questions there?

[topaz vale]

That's like, still very fast lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

I wish the exhaust fan was pwm tho

It's 3 pin, not argb

I can't tell the fan to turn off at the temp I want thru the bios lol

[potent portal]

55%

[topaz vale]

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks like dis

not my pic, stole from some local review kek

im happy asus didn't fully block the front

i can feel it pulling air in with some force, even without front case fans installed

n here's the top

think it fits an aio, but im using it to mine so, meh, just needs some fans

thing basically as wide as the atx psu

lolol

chunky coolers won't fit, i bet

[potent portal]

Nah you could totally fit a scythe fuma in there

(if you leave the side panel off)

[obsidian wigeon]

won't more dust come in?

the higher specced one has this cooler btw

[topaz vale]

Could definitely fit a nh-d15 in there if you just took the side panel off and laid it on its side like a hot rod

[obsidian wigeon]

mine has uh, dinky looking

[topaz vale]

Lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

it's almost athlon cooler

the 3600x runs toasty with it

it's this cooler

tiny as heck

[topaz vale]

Jeeez

Looks like just a case fan to me

Wait I see the fins now lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

oh wait

it's thicker than an athlon cooler

still trash regardless

[tight sorrel]

Hey now, please update for 011 D.

[topaz vale]

Okay, another question. The motherboard I have is the b550 vision d-p and I got 10 Arctic p12 pwm pst fans. Which means I can daisy chain three sets of three, meaning 4 actual connections to the motherboard. It seems compatible but I may be wrong as I can't find an actual number for how many fan headers my mobo actually has, and I don't have it in my possession yet to look myself. Do I need a fan controller or should I be fine?

[fossil cedar]

Look at the manual and count

[topaz vale]

Oh, nevermind, just found out it has 8 fan headers, I overlooked that at first I suppose

My bad lmao

[neon anchor]

@fossil cedar @stoic island I’m building a precision tower right now, should I go with a single Xeon Gold 6226R or dual Silver 4214R’s?

Take note of the ram speed difference as well

[fossil cedar]

Gonna be honest i have no idea about xeons only consumer and threadripper

[neon anchor]

F

[stoic island]

uh, @neon anchor if you're on a board that supports dual 4214r's, wouldn't it also support dual 6226r's?

[neon anchor]

Yes but money is also a factor and that would be an extra $1.6k

[frank stirrup]

yes

[stoic island]

How would cost look for you for single socket board + 6226r and dual socket + 2x4214r?

[frank stirrup]

Why do you want xeon?

[stoic island]

And what will be the purpose?

[frank stirrup]

Why not something like a threadripper or an epyc?

[neon anchor]

-$90 difference for dual silvers actually

This is for engineering software

[stoic island]

some things just hate amd for reasons

[fossil cedar]

They're an engineer I'm sure there's some use, some software just refuses to work on amd

[stoic island]

mhm

[frank stirrup]

Ahh Its for engineering

[neon anchor]

COMSOL despises amd

[stoic island]

yea