#building-and-recc-chat

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tough shell
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And my power sw cable?

ancient wraith
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gpu

tough shell
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Ohhh ye

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What about my power sw cable? Its a small 2pin

potent portal
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Bottom right of the board, check your manual for which pins it is exactly

ancient wraith
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front panel connecters ^

tough shell
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Would that maybe be this one here?

ancient wraith
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there will be a picture too show where they go

jagged ember
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You see the pinout diagram there?

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On the right

tough shell
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Right here

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But on my thing its labelled as power sw

jagged ember
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wasn't that what you were looking for?

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PWRSW is Power SW

tough shell
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Im just not sure of the orientation

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Do I put it horizontal?

jagged ember
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thats what the pinout is for lol

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admittedly, they're not always helpful

ancient wraith
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third slot top left i think

jagged ember
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negative generally is ground though

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so there you go

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actually, Power swtich orientation doesn't matter cause all you're doing is shorting the pins

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thats why a screwdriver always works lol

ancient wraith
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but for long term use

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you should use the button

tough shell
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Just like this?

ancient wraith
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yah

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thats right

jagged ember
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as long as your power sw is connected to those two pins

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it's good

ancient wraith
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its horizontal then

jagged ember
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uh

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that's vertical

ancient wraith
jagged ember
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what?

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what are you talking about

tough shell
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This better?

jagged ember
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the other pins on the other side are reset switch pins

tough shell
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This better?

jagged ember
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take it from the top

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i can't tell from there lol

tough shell
jagged ember
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lol i'm sorry but that's the same perspective as before

tough shell
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What do you mean from the top?

jagged ember
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like, take a picture from directly above the pins

tough shell
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Ohh I see you and I were thinking different top 😂

jagged ember
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loll

tough shell
jagged ember
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ayy

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lets see...

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which mobo, btw?

tough shell
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B560m-a

jagged ember
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manufacturer?

tough shell
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Asus

muted patio
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I don't think that's the right section

tough shell
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Its a prime b560 if that matters

jagged ember
muted patio
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That's labeled LPT

jagged ember
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yeah, i was gonna check the manual to make sure it was the right set

muted patio
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Prime B560?

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Or 560M?

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NM

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got it

tough shell
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Its prime b560m-a

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Ohh its this here?

jagged ember
muted patio
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yes those

jagged ember
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yep

muted patio
jagged ember
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beat me to it lol

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2nd pair from the top

tough shell
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Is that the only thing that I NEED to plug in there?

jagged ember
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technically yeah

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but you won't have like power or HDD leds and stuff

tough shell
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Do I dig around in my psu stuff that I have stored? Like I should have all those already right?

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Or idk lmao

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I have the hdd led

jagged ember
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you should have at least power and hdd led pins on your front panel connectors

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jesus, that 20 pin fp connectors are fancy

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i've never seen that before lol

tough shell
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Is it ok for the hdd connector upside down?

jagged ember
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uhh

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no

potent portal
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Upside down how? Like words on the other side upside down?

jagged ember
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red is plus, blue is -

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can't flip polarity for that

tough shell
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Well wtf 😂 it says led+ on left, led- on right but this is how my thing looks

jagged ember
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yeah, match up the plus part of that with the + of the pins

tough shell
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Nonono i meant flip it so the bottom face of the connector is up, and the print is down

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Ok good

muted patio
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Looks like plus on the right, - on the left

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line those up with the + and - pins on the FP header

tough shell
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Kk

jagged ember
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this is probably the worst part of pc building

tough shell
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And what will the hdd led do for me?

jagged ember
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show you if the HDD is active or ont

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*not

tough shell
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Ah

jagged ember
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technically you don't need it

tough shell
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Now that I have my cpu power, hdd led, power sw, aafp, sata cables, usb3.0 cable, and the mobo power in*, and cpu in, im good to put in my gpu?

jagged ember
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i mean, if your case has a 2.0 usb cable you might wanna plug that in

tough shell
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What would that look like?

jagged ember
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that

tough shell
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Lmfao wtf, couldve sworn I have one but idk where it is

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Wth

jagged ember
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well it's useful if your case has like usb2.0 ports

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or if you have a wifi card that also has bluetooth

tough shell
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Yeah it has usb2 pretty sure

jagged ember
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mm

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more ports are good then

tough shell
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I guess if my ports dont work pull stuff back out later and find it?

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Cause idk where it wouldve gone lol

jagged ember
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you lost your usb2.0 headers from your case?

tough shell
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The cable that was connecting there. Pretty sure I just had some for my old board. Idk where they wouldve gone if I did though because everything stayed in my cable wrap together

jagged ember
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meh

tough shell
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Hmm.

jagged ember
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if it doesn't work, then think about it lol

tough shell
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Ye

jagged ember
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my case only has like 2 usb ports so

tough shell
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So

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Now I should be good to mount gpu?

jagged ember
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i'm assuming fans are plugged in too

tough shell
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And yeah but I use all my ports kekW

jagged ember
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and you've done some sort of cable management

tough shell
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Fans aren’t yet

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Plug in fan and aio now then?

jagged ember
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hm, do fans first

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one fan port will definitely be hard to access once your gpu is in

tough shell
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Front mounted aio btw not top

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Kk

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Where would I find if im using intel LGA2011 vs intel LGA1150/1155/1366?

jagged ember
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intel website?

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just look up your cpu

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a little late to be confirming if your cpu is the right socket type lol

tough shell
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Nono it works with my board

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But

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Need to know what stuff to use for my aio

jagged ember
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oh yeah

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still, same advice

tough shell
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Ye lol

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Its an evga aio but cant find model, smfh

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So its an evga clc aio, and my cpu is a 10900

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240mm

jagged ember
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the brackets should have some sort of engraving telling you what it's for

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not 10900k?

tough shell
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No. Its f

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10900f

jagged ember
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1200

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FCLGA

tough shell
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What is fclga?

jagged ember
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basically lga iirc

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yeah same thing

potent portal
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Land Grid Array, refers to the pins being on the motherboard and not the CPU

lyric thistle
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what about fc tho

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does it stand for Fal'Cie :^)

jagged ember
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full or flip something

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was good joke

potent portal
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IDR
IDRC

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Flip Chip

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FC refers to the manufacturing process

jagged ember
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flip, yeah

lyric thistle
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😳

tough shell
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So for my 10900 with my prime b560m-a mobo, i’ll be using the screws from B, right?

jagged ember
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probably

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which aio again?

tough shell
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Evga clc aio

jagged ember
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yeah it should be those

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i assume D has nothing to do with intel right

tough shell
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Even with the washers included the plate that the standoffs connect to is still a little loose. Any ideas?

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Wait nvm i might be dumb as shite

jagged ember
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honestly i found the cooler to be the hardest part lol

obsidian wigeon
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use the B i think

tough shell
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Yeah im dumb. Got it

potent portal
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Yep socket 1200 (10th and 11th gen) is compatible with 115x

tough shell
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Do I install the retention ring with the aio attached, or do I attach the aio after

jagged ember
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does the manual say?

tough shell
jagged ember
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i think that means there's already a retention ring?

tough shell
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Ye there was one on it. Im asking if I need to remove it from the preassembly, install it, then put it back on the aio

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Or if I do it all at once

potent portal
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If the preinstalled ring is the Intel one don't change it

tough shell
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Kk

jagged ember
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so just slap the cooler on there and tighten it down i think

tough shell
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But i install it while keeping it on the aio?

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Kk

potent portal
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Yes the ring will be on the block while you screw it on

tough shell
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So, changing the fans on my rad to something different than stock. How do I tell what way J want the fan facing? Label in or out? Im using arctic p12 pwm pst co

jagged ember
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oo p12

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pog

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the cage holding the fan blades in place is where air exhausts

tough shell
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So like this on my rad? And yeah, mr1111 recommended all my cooling and stuff and helped me figure out the mobo and cpu

jagged ember
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so the air will blow towards the camera

tough shell
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Ye

jagged ember
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also i think the fans should be mounted on the inside of the case for easy cleaning

tough shell
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Its the right way? And yeah they are

jagged ember
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so dust is just an easy wipe

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looks good to me

tough shell
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Kk. I do want the air being exhausted away from the rad right

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Or to?

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Sry never made one of these b4

desert gulch
tough shell
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The front of my case.

desert gulch
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If you put rad on the front, you'll want to pull/push air into the case, if you put it on top or back you'll want to push/pull air out of case

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So I'd put the fans on the inside of the radiator and make them pull air

potent portal
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Pull config tends to be easier to clean, the dust only builds up on the radiator instead of the fans

tough shell
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Bruh. They gave me 2 less screws than I need :/

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Screws for the rad*

potent portal
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You only really need 2 screws per fan, and a 240 rad 6 screws is more than enough

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2 on each side, and 2 in the middle diagonal from each other

jagged ember
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yep

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exactly what he said

tough shell
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Do I need to connect both ports of my fans to other stuff there is a male and female end on both cords for my pwm’s

potent portal
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You can connect the fans to each other, and then one side to the board

jagged ember
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that's what it's for!

tough shell
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So from the cooler itself, the cable goes to mobo or fans. For the fans plug one fan into it, and then plug a second fan into the first?

potent portal
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The CPU block should plug into an AIO or PUMP header on the board

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The fans can connect to each other, and then plug those into the CPU_FAN

tough shell
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The block has 2 cables. One says to fans the other says to mobo.

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Is this ok? The top cable connects to my fan, then the splitter from my first fan has my second one.

potent portal
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You've got it correct so far, just plug the "to motherboard" side in

jagged ember
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so plug the 'to motherboard' side into the AIO/PUMP header?

potent portal
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Looks like that's one model that's designed to have all 3 plugged into the CPU_FAN header

tough shell
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Can i take of the to fan and to mobo tags? Or do they normally stay on?

potent portal
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Doesn't really matter either way, but might be good to keep them on for cable managing later

tough shell
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K

snow hatch
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is this compatible with a MSI b350 Tomahawk mother board?

tough shell
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@potent portal can I plug my case fans into CHA fan or is that for something else?

potent portal
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Yes CHA means chassis, the case

tough shell
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Ah kk. What do you normally do with the free end on a pwm pst?

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Hide it under heat shields or something?

potent portal
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What do you mean? What free end?

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If there's another connector it's probably to connect the fans together

tough shell
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Ohh

potent portal
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Unless it's a molex ending, which is kinda rare these days

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Yeah that's for daisy chaining the fans together

tough shell
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The ones on my rad should be separate though the others can be connected right?

potent portal
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Yep

tough shell
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And if I do have any free ends left over?

potent portal
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Just leave it loose

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Tuck it away, zip tie it or something

tough shell
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Can it be tucked behind heat shields? Or should it just go behind the fan between the fan and usb ports?

potent portal
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Yeah that's fine, tuck it wherever it's out of the way

tough shell
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Should top mount fans be pulling or pushing?

little osprey
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My pc turns on and off but no display 😩

tough shell
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Oh or can I daisy chain the evga fans to my arctic ones using the arctic connector?

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@potent portal

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Because if I want another case fan on the top and cant chain it, I need to just plug it into the cpu opt do I?

potent portal
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Top exhaust, and usually 3 fans is the limit for each header on the motherboard

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Sometimes 2 fans even, if they use a lot of power

tough shell
# potent portal Sometimes 2 fans even, if they use a lot of power

Yeah, so I have my 2 arctics on my rad to my block and the other cord on my block on cpufan, then back of case fan on cha_fan I have another arctic, can I put the fourth (the evga fan that came with rad, not another arctic) on a daisy chain with the back of case fan, or should I put it on pu opt? Or just leave it alltogether? Sorry for so many questions just dont wanna mess it up.

potent portal
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The stuff that goes to the AIO can all be in one chain, the other stuff can be a separate chain plugged into CHA header

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Up to 3 fans per header

tough shell
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Even though its not the same brand?

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Kk

potent portal
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Brand makes almost no difference, power is power

tough shell
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Kk

cold sorrel
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I've decided I'm going to try just running my case with three fans (2 intake, 1 exhaust.) If temps are bad, I'll look at throwing a fourth in the top as another exhaust. (I bought a five pack of fans.)

jagged ember
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Yes

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A good plan that is

zinc otter
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Should I put fans at the bottom of my case? I plan on having 3 intake on the front. 2 exhaust on radiator on the top and 1 exhaust on the back.

cold sorrel
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Plus, well, having a couple of fans in reserve in case one croaks never hurts.

tough shell
potent portal
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That goes to the USB 2.0 header at the bottom of the board, a little to the left

tough shell
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It goes on the bottom one here?

potent portal
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Yes

tough shell
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Hmm. 😂

potent portal
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Cutting it just a little close aren't you? lol

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As long as it doesn't touch while the fan is spinning that's fine

tough shell
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Ye lol

jagged ember
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Sheeesh

potent portal
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That daily grind tho

tough shell
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Anyone mind helping me setup bios?

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@potent portal you up for helping a little? Its nw if you arent

potent portal
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Sure, I got time

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Nice to see Asus telling you in advance they disable power limits by default

tough shell
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Anything here I have to change?

potent portal
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XMP enabled

tough shell
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The fan seems a bit nutty

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Intel rapid storage on or off?

potent portal
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I'd do off

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On forces RAID mode

tough shell
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Off is blue im assuming?

potent portal
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Yes

tough shell
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K

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Qfan control, anything for that? Its going crazy rn.

potent portal
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Only reports 1400 RPM, what fan is loud?

tough shell
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Or is it maybe just the pump? Ill send a video to show what it sounds like but gimme a min, slow internet

potent portal
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Oh if it's the pump it's probably just air that need to work through the system for a bit

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The highest point on the radiator is above the CPU right?

tough shell
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Yes

potent portal
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Then here's what you can do to help it:

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Slowly rock the PC back and forth, side to side

tough shell
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What does the qfan panel show? Just that at 100degrees the fan is at max?

potent portal
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Qfan should let you change the curve, so it ramps up at different temps

tough shell
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There that helped a bit. The rest of the noise is my top fan I think

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What do I need to do from here with bios?

potent portal
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For now, not much. The rest is mostly customization and overclocking, mixed with a few advanced features.

tough shell
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So don’t bother? Or should I look at advanced stuff now?

potent portal
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For now defaults are fine, you just want XMP on so the memory runs faster

tough shell
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I see

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Is there anything in here I could turn on for crypto mining while not using my pc? Or is that all after bios in normal pc stuff?

potent portal
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Not anything that'll affect a single GPU system

tough shell
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Kk

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So just press f10 for save and exit?

potent portal
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There's the "above 4G decryption" but that's more for 4+ GPUs

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Yep F10, save, and insert your install device

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If it doesn't go right to your installer hit F8 on the BIOS splash screen

tough shell
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Oh im dumb asf. Is it not stored to my ssd if I had it installed before?

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I need a separate drive?

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Or what

potent portal
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You can try booting the old install but I highly recommend doing a clean install

tough shell
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Will I lose all my old data?

potent portal
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Only if you format the drive

tough shell
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You able to link me to the install page? Im assuming its to install windows or what?

potent portal
fossil cedar
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Google media creation tool and grab a usb

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Or click that

potent portal
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Beat you to it lol

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That's the official Windows tool to create a bootable USB that you can use to reinstall Windows

fossil cedar
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Damm was gonna hit enter but was like better mention the usb so added on XD

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Told someone else they needed a usb and they were confused when there was no usb in the pc when they ran the tool, they didn't get a usb at all ;-;

fossil cedar
tough shell
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kk

potent portal
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Not necessarily, you can do an "Upgrade Installation" instead of a custom one

tough shell
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now my garbo internet will take 30hrs or sum dumb stuff to download\

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I get 50kbps kekw

potent portal
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But still highly recommended to save your stuff and wipe it

tough shell
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I am

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🙂

fossil cedar
potent portal
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Doesn't matter once the USB is made, it renames the Windows folder to Windows.old and backs up the user data similarly

tough shell
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Do I need to install the creation tool to the usb, or on my pc then use it to make a file on my usb?

fossil cedar
tough shell
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non usb option?

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you mean just booting the old download?

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This version that I'll be making will not let me do things such as changing the background I heard? is that only on the paid version?

fossil cedar
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You run it the same way but is like upgrade this pc r sum

fossil cedar
potent portal
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The ISO option (the non usb one) is if you want to use another tool to create the USB or if you want to have the installer for later

tough shell
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should recognize what? On my old mobo the guy that had built it for me used his install stuff. For mine if I make a copy of windows, it should see that there was a full version in the ssd?

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ahh I see

potent portal
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Go into settings and search "activation", when it says you're not activated tell it "I changed hardware"

tough shell
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settings on my pc im using now to download it or on my new pc?

potent portal
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As long as you're signed into a microsoft account it should go through no problem

potent portal
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Transfer the key now so it re-binds to the new serial number, less hassle later when you go to sign in and re-activate

tough shell
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I should choose 64 bit architecture for new setup?

lyric thistle
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do you want only 4gb ram thinkies

tough shell
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I have 16gb

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but on my pc im on now its suggesting to use reccomended setup based on what this pc is

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which is why im asking

lyric thistle
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64 bit allows for more than 4gb ram

tough shell
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so I do need to do 64 bit then?

potent portal
lyric thistle
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so basically

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gtx 970 kekw

tough shell
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yeah I have a 980

potent portal
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Just stick with its default "recommended for this PC" settings

tough shell
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its for my surface that the settings are for tho, not my desktop

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thts fine?

lyric thistle
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gtx 970 has 3gb gddr5 with I think 1 or a half gb of ddr3?

potent portal
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Yeah that's fine

tough shell
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How big about is the download for the windows setup?

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like 50gb or 5 type thing?

lyric thistle
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a full installation of windows should take 20gb I think

potent portal
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The ISO is around 5GB

lyric thistle
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fits on 8gb usb

potent portal
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Once it fully installs and decompresses it'll take about 20GB on your SSD

tough shell
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the pc I need to search "I switched hardware" is when I'm setting up the install on my main pc?

potent portal
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I think that's where MrM was going

potent portal
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If you're not on the PC now don't worry about it, you can do it later it's just one more step

tough shell
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if im not on which pc? the one im trying to install on?

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lol sorry for being kinda dumb FeelsBadMan

potent portal
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Yeah the one with the new hardware

tough shell
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kk

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well the drive has reached a POGGERS 2%, so imma go read manga and have a snack

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might be finished before the sun rises?

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xd

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Anything to do here? @potent portal

potent portal
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Nope looks good, just ok

tough shell
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And my fan should be on standard, silent, or turbo?

potent portal
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Up to preference

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On silent it lets it get to a higher temp before ramping up the fans, on turbo it's the opposite and favors low temps over noise

tough shell
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is having my cha1 fans in PWM mode ok?

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and setting to standard

potent portal
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Is the fan a 3 pin or 4 pin fan?

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If it's 3 pin that's DC mode

tough shell
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all fans I have are 4

potent portal
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PWM is good then

tough shell
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it says I can do DC or PWM

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kk

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my screen is turning on and off a bunch. that normal?

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after exiting bios for first time

potent portal
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Yeah it's programming the CMOS and training the memory

tough shell
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kk

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good

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was scared it was Shi**ing the bed

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and was like n0000000000000

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when you dump almost all (except $25) you have into fixing a pc, its scary asf if u don't know what's going on nade_scared

potent portal
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I get you, that's what we're here for

tough shell
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❤️

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Does it take a while for cmos to finish stuff?

potent portal
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Not usually more than a minute or so, does it seem to be trying to boot Windows? That's probably why it's restarting

tough shell
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you see the vid?

potent portal
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Yeah, what happens if you press delete repeatedly? BIOS should come up

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Alternatively F8 for boot menu

tough shell
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nothing. my keyboard and mouse aren't getting powered it seems

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should I turn off the system and start it again?

potent portal
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Sure give it a go

tough shell
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still nothing

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yes.

meager badge
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On one of my PCs I have to use non USB keyboard and mouse if I want to enter bios

tough shell
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how tf?

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wat

potent portal
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Could be but that's unusual, maybe try different USB ports

tough shell
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but I mean, I legit just entered bios like 5 mins ago

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and now ports aint working

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where they were before

meager badge
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If you did it once, it should work.

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That PC I have this issue is a factory thing 😄

tough shell
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could it be related to the white light that's staying on? @potent portal

potent portal
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Maybe, is the light next to some words? DRAM, CPU, etc?

tough shell
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ye

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should I power off and see what the thing says?

potent portal
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See what light stays lit up, there's usually 4

tough shell
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wat tfh

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I unplugged it and plugged it back in, and turned it on

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now im back at the AMI screen from first boot up

potent portal
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It might have reset after failing to train the memory

tough shell
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so press f1 to run setup?

potent portal
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What kit is it, and what board again?

tough shell
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sorry, kit?

potent portal
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What memory is it

tough shell
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its an asus prime b560m-a

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using crucial ssd, and hitachi HDD

potent portal
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Do you have a link to where you bought the memory from?

tough shell
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ok so the light is stuck on JUST below the debug lights

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its green

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no, it was refurbished. Never had an issue with it till now.

potent portal
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Ah interesting

tough shell
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yeah

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you think I should just press f1?

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and run base settings

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because my keyboard and mouse work now just fine

potent portal
#

Yeah skip the XMP for now, it looks like it's set to 2800 right now

tough shell
#

kk

potent portal
#

Oh wait no that's the CPU

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Memory is at 2133

#

Anyway we'll come back to that

#

Is your mobo the wifi model?

tough shell
#

it does have wifi capabilities, though i don't use a module

tough shell
#
ASUS Canada

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so I should leave XMP enabled?

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or disable it?

potent portal
#

Leave it off for now, I think a BIOS update will fix it but gotta narrow down your model first

tough shell
#

should I try save and exit again then?

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or are you trying to figure something out?

potent portal
#

You're still waiting on the installer to download right?

tough shell
#

yes

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at 52%

potent portal
#

Ok looks like your board is using the original BIOS from February, there's a new one from the 29th last month

tough shell
#

ah

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so after im done installing the windows installer, I need to install the new bios onto my thumbdrive?

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or what?

potent portal
#

You're sure that was the right model, right?

tough shell
#

99.999

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gimme a moment

potent portal
#

There's a picture of the box in the link you sent

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See if it matches

tough shell
#

yes

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it does

potent portal
#

Ok good that should be the right one

tough shell
#

as he gets me to install backdoors into my pc to make it mine for him kekw

tough shell
#

im downloading the last link u sent will let u know when its done

bitter plank
#

What can I buy to get more storage for my pc so I can download more games

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??

tough shell
#

Another ssd or hdd?

#

Or an external hard drive

bitter plank
#

Like I only have 256 gb on my pc I have only one game downloaded I want more so I can download more games and apps

tough shell
#

Ye get another hdd, ssd, or external drive

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To store stuff

bitter plank
#

What better

potent portal
#

Is this a desktop or a laptop?

tough shell
#

Youd have to ask someone else. Not sure personally

bitter plank
#

Like I have ark downloaded and it takes all my space I want to download rust and rocket league to but I. Need more space so I get a ssd??

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Desktop

tough shell
#

Fal is great, hes been helping me for hrs haha

bitter plank
#

Fal??

tough shell
#

Fal’cir

potent portal
#

Yes that's me

tough shell
#

Cie*

bitter plank
#

Can u help me

tough shell
potent portal
tough shell
#

Desktop

bitter plank
#

So I have 256 gb I have ark downloaded and it takes all the space I want to download rust and rocket league what do I get to get more storage so I can download more games and apps

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@potent portal

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??

tough shell
potent portal
#

Ah I missed that sorry

tough shell
#

:p

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pog, windows install is at 75%

potent portal
#

If you want to store a ton of things like movies and such, a large HDD is good.
For gaming, I'd recommend buying a SSD.

tough shell
#

might be done by 3:00am 😄

potent portal
tough shell
#

I have a 500ish gb ssd and a 750ish gb hdd

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both are good for me 😄

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remaining storage on them*

potent portal
#

You can get whichever is the cheapest out of the M.2 category if you have a M.2 slot open, or the SATA category if you don't

bitter plank
#

What the cheapest 1Tb ssd that is good

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Don’t knwo any of that lmao

potent portal
#

If you have a M.2 slot open I think the Mushkin Pilot-E is good price right now

bitter plank
#

How much is that

potent portal
#

About $100 per Terabyte

bitter plank
#

Is there any ssd that r like 70 bucks

potent portal
#

Lemme see what I can dig up

bitter plank
#

Alr man thx

tough shell
#

remember tho, these are canadian dollars, idk if ur in america or what tho

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he can also get a crucial ssd or something cant he? @potent portal

potent portal
#

A crucial P1 sure

bitter plank
#

Yo fal

tough shell
#

I have a crucial_t512MX100SSD1

bitter plank
#

How much would it cost for somone to put a ssd in my pc

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Like if I went to the pc store

tough shell
#

did u build ur own pc? cause it should be pretty similar I would believe, no?

potent portal
#

It would take seconds to do it yourself, a good local shop would probably do it free

bitter plank
#

But if they want money for it how much u think they would charge

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To put it in

potent portal
#

Idk, it's up to the owner. Some charge a minimum of one hour per job at $100+ per hour.

tough shell
#

For the bios update, do I have to install windows first, then go back and install the update after wiping my thumbdrive again (deleting the windows install on my thumbdrive after I get it on my desktop)?

bitter plank
#

So fal did u find a 70 dollar ssd for me

potent portal
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You can have both the BIOS file and the Windows installer on there at the same time

tough shell
#

take a peek on newegg @bitter plank find one you think you'd like and try running it by fal?

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ty @ fal

potent portal
#

Pilot E like I thought

tough shell
#

85% downloaded POGGERS

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ye

#

its like 100 CAD for 500gb

#

not bad for an m.2 tbh

bitter plank
#

What’s a m.2

potent portal
#

512GB is kinda bad value, it's not much more for 1TB

tough shell
#

ye

potent portal
bitter plank
#

Oh

tough shell
#

for my CHA1 fan and CPU fan, is it "normal" for rpm to be about 656 and 1400ish respectively while on bios? @ fal

bitter plank
#

So can it go into any pc

tough shell
bitter plank
#

Hwo do I knwo I have one

tough shell
#

what mobo you got?

potent portal
#

Take a picture of the inside of the computer and DM it to me

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Particularly the area around the GPU

bitter plank
#

My pc is just black u can’t see in it without opening it

tough shell
#

oh its a store built

potent portal
#

That's fine, take the side off. It won't hurt it.

bitter plank
#

Yea but I have a i3 1650

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I run like 140 FPS on ark

tough shell
#

that's your processor

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not your mobo (motherboard)

bitter plank
#

And run can 230 on fortnite but I don’t play that game loll

tough shell
#

@potent portal if you direct him into bios for his pc, think it might say the mobo on his like it does on mine?

potent portal
#

Maybe but some prebuilts don't use standard boards

tough shell
#

ahh

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F

bitter plank
#

So that ssd that u showed me fal will it work for me

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Should I buy it rn

potent portal
#

Send the picture of the inside of the PC and I can tell you if it will work

bitter plank
#

Alr

potent portal
#

Or I can find a different drive that will 100% work with literally anything

bitter plank
#

Alr can u do that

potent portal
#

Sure one sec

bitter plank
#

Can u find like the same price

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As the other one

potent portal
tough shell
#

fyi for future reference, if you want a good pc and you have some spare cash, might want to look at making your own pc. on the flip side, GPU's are IMPOSSIBLE to find nowadays :/

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thats the one I have Kek

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or pretty close to it

potent portal
#

If yours is the BX500 I feel sorry for you

bitter plank
#

So that will work on my pc rig

potent portal
bitter plank
#

Right for sure don’t wanna buy it and I can’t even use it

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Alr thx

potent portal
#

Anything made since the year 2000 will be able to use that

bitter plank
#

Is that one good right like idk man srry just don’t really knwo

#

Hold up gimme a sec with show u my pc

potent portal
#

Yes it's one of the better drives. Not as fast as the first one, but that won't make a difference in games.

tough shell
#

fal wouldn't recommend junk

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thats part of the nice thing with newegg disc having tech role 😄 people know what they're talking about

bitter plank
#

Did u look at it

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@potent portal

potent portal
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Yeah checking over specs

bitter plank
#

Alr

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So will that one work

potent portal
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Ok, you do have 2x M.2 slots, one of which is currently in use

bitter plank
#

The 50 doll wolf ome on Amazon

potent portal
#

Either drive will work fine for gaming

bitter plank
#

Alr

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So I can download more game right

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If I get it

potent portal
#

Definitely

tough shell
#

now my download is making windows 10 media POGGIES

bitter plank
#

Yo fal

potent portal
tough shell
bitter plank
#

If I get it will u walk me thru how to install it by my self with out having to pay somone to do it

tough shell
#

i'd die

bitter plank
#

??

bitter plank
#

Alr

#

Thx

tough shell
#

@potent portal on the bios where it says my crucial drive is "windows boot manager" does that mean that's where the old windows install is saved?

potent portal
#

Yes

tough shell
#

interesting

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🙂

bitter plank
#

Yo fal that 50 dallor ssd how much gb is it

potent portal
#

500GB

bitter plank
#

Alr thx

tough shell
#

ill be back in a few. my install is at 68% rn

bitter plank
#

Wait one more thing fal srry man will it work on my desktop

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@potent portal

potent portal
#

Yes you can fit up to 2 of those in your computer

bitter plank
#

Alr

tough shell
#

ok it says my usb flash drive is ready. All that I need to do is click finish and eject device?

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@potent portal

frank stirrup
#

falcie can you confirm that the x570 elite wifi has pcie gen 4 for moth m.2 slots?

potent portal
#

Yep, but make sure you extract the BIOS file onto the USB

potent portal
tough shell
#

now that it's been extracted, what would you like me to do fal? take out the thumbdrive?

potent portal
#

Yes, then go into BIOS on the new system with the USB plugged in

tough shell
#

so restart until it gets to bios, and by that time have the usb already in?

tough shell
#

or can I just have it running and put the thumbdrive in

potent portal
frank stirrup
#

thats 3rd gen right?

#

5000 is 4th gen

potent portal
#

3600X doesn't support PCIe 4.0 at all

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3000 is Zen 2

frank stirrup
tough shell
#

oh god, almost accidentally formatted my usb

#

phew

potent portal
#

The naming is really weird I know, Ryzen 5000 is the 4th series of desktop processors in the Zen 3 generation

frank stirrup
#

Yep so 3600 is 3rd gen

potent portal
potent portal
frank stirrup
#

like zen->zen+->zen2->zen3

vivid copper
#

ryzen 3000 does support pcie 4.0

frank stirrup
#

found this on the AMD site

potent portal
#

Yeah reading more into that it does BUT only has 16 gen 4 lanes

tough shell
#

ok so i've restarted it @ fal

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do I go back into the bios?

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with f1

potent portal
#

Yes

tough shell
#

kk

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now what?

#

boot off of the sandisk, partition 1?

potent portal
frank stirrup
frank stirrup
vivid copper
frank stirrup
#

The x570 elite wifi

vivid copper
#

brand?

frank stirrup
#

gigabyte

potent portal
tough shell
#

how do I do that?

#

i have a boot priority screen

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and I can drag the stuff around

potent portal
#

F8

tough shell
#

ok think I got it

#

its starting up again

potent portal
#

UEFI Sandisk is the one you want

tough shell
#

or at the very least, it's looking for the incredible

tough shell
#

ye

#

xd

frank stirrup
#

Asus has been in search of incredible for way too long now

tough shell
#

I click install now right? @ fal

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or repair?

frank stirrup
tough shell
#

kk

potent portal
#

Install yes

tough shell
#

ty

frank stirrup
#

and chose your ssd

tough shell
#

setup is starting

#

so is my jet engine

potent portal
#

Then since you don't want to wipe out all your data, do an upgrade installation

tough shell
#

wait

#

sorry

#

it says here, activate windows

#

or

potent portal
#

Skip it

tough shell
#

click I don't have a product key

frank stirrup
tough shell
#

kk

vivid copper
tough shell
#

ill want to click "windows 10 home"?

#

assuming

potent portal
#

But I think the GPU will run in x8 mode so the lanes for the top slot are available, since the CPU only has 16 lanes

potent portal
tough shell
#

now

#

click upgrade or custom

#

?

potent portal
#

Upgrade

frank stirrup
#

since its through chipset

potent portal
#

Yes lower slot is chipset

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That would allow the GPU to use all 16 lanes

frank stirrup
#

So Ill move my ssd to slot B then

potent portal
#

Which is good if you want to use Re-BAR

frank stirrup
#

Rebar kills perf for me

tough shell
#

it says here "the upgrade option isnt available if you start your computer using windows installation media. If a copy of windows is already installed on this computer and you want to upgrade, remove the installation media and restart youor computer, after windows has started normally, insert the installation media and run windows setup" @potent portal

vivid copper
#

ryzen 3600 has 24 lanes of pcie 4.0

potent portal
#

Does it? I've seen conflicting info on that, so I went by AMD site

tough shell
#

ye

tough shell
#

that'll wipe my stuff won;t it?

#

or just wipe stuff on the thumb drive?

vivid copper
#

24 total....4 reserved for the chipset....so 20 from the cpu....

potent portal
#

See if it'll boot windows to start with, if not you'll need to copy the data using another device

tough shell
#

what do you mean see if itll boot?

#

just restart it again, and boot with the original drive?

potent portal
#

Try to load the windows boot loader from the boot menu, yeah

#

If it works, great you can save your data that way and wipe it after

tough shell
#

so I can shut it off while the usb is in with the windows setup pulled up and should be fine?

potent portal
#

It won't hurt it

tough shell
#

oh

#

my

#

god

#

it only shows my sandisk now

#

my crucial isn't there

potent portal
#

Ok load the sandisk and select repair this time

tough shell
#

k

#

ok

#

now what?

#

gives option to continue, use a device, troubleshoot

frank stirrup
tough shell
#

ok

#

then

potent portal
#

command prompt

tough shell
#

kk

#

now what

frank stirrup
#

dism?

potent portal
#

type out these commands, one line at a time:

#

diskpart

tough shell
#

it says x:\sources

#

in there?

potent portal
#

list volume

tough shell
#

and enter after every one?

potent portal
#

yes

tough shell
#

like diskpart enter

#

then list volume enter

#

kk

potent portal
#

What does it say now?

tough shell
#

ill send u a picture, 1 moment

potent portal
#

Is that one named "Files and D" the one where the data you want to save is?

tough shell
#

its files and downloads

#

it's in there, in drive C and in drive E

#

I believe is where all my stuff is

potent portal
#

ok next command

tough shell
#

so ltr c, d, e

#

kk

potent portal
#

list disk

tough shell
potent portal
#

Ok so you've got 2 separate disks on your computer? That helps

tough shell
#

yes

#

a hdd and an ssd

#

the crucial and hitachi

potent portal
#

Ok so it looks like E drive is the one on disk 1 (the second one)

tough shell
#

where it has 475 size, and 0b free?

potent portal
#

Yes, I assume this because the disk is the same size as the partition

tough shell
#

ah makes sense

potent portal
#

We can verify, watch this

#

select volume 2

#

list disk

tough shell
#

Wait sorry

#

So I type ‘select volume 2’

potent portal
#

yes

tough shell
#

Then ‘list disk’?

#

Kk

potent portal
#

Enter after each line of commands

tough shell
#

Kk

#

Ok now disc 1 is selected

potent portal
#

Disk 1 was selected because volume 2 exists on that disk

tough shell
#

Ahh

potent portal
#

Ok now we know the file structure, we can copy your data to backup from here

#

type "exit"

tough shell
#

K

#

Oh shoot

#

Typed exir

#

Can I still type exit?

potent portal
#

Do you know exactly where the things you want to save are?

potent portal
tough shell
#

No, I don’t. Just that theyre in the drives there 😦

potent portal
#

Ok, no problem. We'll just dig through the file structures.

#

Next commands:

#

cd C:\

#

ls

tough shell
#

Left slash?

#

Kk

potent portal
#

(that's a lowercase L followed by the s)

tough shell
#

Oh

potent portal
tough shell
potent portal
#

Wha... it pretended that it changed directory and didn't give an error, but didn't actually change directory 🙃

tough shell
#

So what should I do now then?

#

Try the C:\ again?

potent portal
#

bootrec /fixboot

#

Since ls failed we can't list the directories anyway and we'd essentially be blind going through

tough shell
#

Like this?

potent portal
#

Yes, but make sure there's a space, bootrec /fixboot

#

One space will do, did multiple for emphasis

tough shell
#

Says access is denied

#

.>

potent portal
#

Of course it is

#

bootrec /rebuildbcd

tough shell
#

Scanning all discs for windows installations

potent portal
#

When it finds the Windows install, Y then enter

tough shell
#

Is it like before where my crucial wasn’t showing up in the boot menu?

#

Cause I 1000% had a windows install

#

Because my crucial drive is what has the install on it I believe

pseudo wren
#

IS 3600 MHZ OF RAM COMPACTIBLE WITH AMD RYZEN 5 3600

potent portal
#

Yes

pseudo wren
#

THANKS

potent portal
#

It's "compatible" at least

pseudo wren
#

K SORRY I WAS TYPING FAST

potent portal
#

Just wanted to make sure you weren't talking about a trash compacter or something 😉

tough shell
#

😂

#

What would you like me to do now fal?

potent portal
#

Well we can pretend none of this happened and go right back into the installer, but this time hitting custom install. Data won't be deleted if we don't format the drive.

tough shell
#

Kk

potent portal
#

You can just hit the power button or type exit and reboot through the menu

tough shell
#

Now the ssd shows its ugly face again

potent portal
#

njgsadfg

#

Really Asus

tough shell
#

Wtf is happening lmfao

#

Seems sus

potent portal
#

Welp maybe one of the repair commands did... something

#

We'll say that lol

tough shell
#

Lol

potent portal
#

Anyway now that we've wasted all this time, try to boot windows

tough shell
#

So am I booting from usb or ssd?

jagged ember
#

Ssd, id assume?

#

I'm saying that without any context tho lol

tough shell
#

Lmfao

potent portal
#

Well you're not wrong at least

#

The windows boot loader entry technically exists on the SSD

tough shell
#

Ok well shite eh

#

Ill boot ssd and see what happens

still roostBOT
#
Basher3336#6969 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

tough shell
#

Holy cow yeassss

potent portal
#

That's a good sign

tough shell
#

We broke stuff and made it work

potent portal
#

Yep lol

#

Now you can copy your data to a backup at least

tough shell
#

Should I download the lan driver and armoury crate app that comes with my mobo?

potent portal
#

Probably not since you still need to reinstall Windows

#

It'll sort of work how it is but you'll likely get reduced gaming performance and other problems

tough shell
#

I don’t think so. I booted my ssd and it worked fine

#

Oh

#

:/

#

Is that something I can do at a later date if it doesnt work as is now?

potent portal
#

I mean if you want to give it a try load up a benchmark and see where you're at vs where you should be

tough shell
#

Where do I go for that?

potent portal
#

Do you have 3Dmark? That would be ideal

tough shell
#

I don’t

jagged ember
#

3dmark?

potent portal
#

Time Spy

jagged ember
#

Cinebench?

#

O there

tough shell
#

Are any of those online? Or all downloads?

#

Cause I have none :/

jagged ember
#

Downloads

tough shell
#

F

#

Free?

jagged ember
#

3d mark has demo

#

So technically yes

#

Cinebench is free last I remember

potent portal
#

NORMALLY I would not recommend this site but this is an odd scenario

jagged ember
#

No

#

You didnt

#

Lol in a pinch it's helpful tho ig

potent portal
#

I'm just looking for obvious signs of problems

jagged ember
#

Mm

#

So his windows borked itself I assume

tough shell
#

Helps if I connect to the internet lmfao

potent portal
#

New build, forgot to backup before changing hardware from the old one

jagged ember
#

Rip

tough shell
#

Naw, fried my mobo and cpu

#

Forgot to discharge electricity with power button after unplugging

#

::

#

:/

potent portal
#

Oh so you didn't even get a chance to backup

tough shell
#

Nop

potent portal
#

So now this is the old Windows install on a new PC

jagged ember
#

It boots, at least

potent portal
#

Yep, but this is why I want to look for problems

jagged ember
#

Right that's fair

potent portal
#

We still need to update the BIOS and get XMP working too

jagged ember
#

Afterwards, p95

#

And aida64

potent portal
#

Yep, first bench, then stability test

jagged ember
#

What's a good gpu stability test

potent portal
#

Besides Furmark 🔥 ?

jagged ember
#

Yeah, besides that

tough shell
#

So still say no to the lan driver right?

potent portal
#

Eh, it shouldn't matter right now

tough shell
#

K

jagged ember
#

I'd install it from the manufacturer website

#

No trust in whatever dragon center or something installs

potent portal
#

armoury crate, even worse

jagged ember
#

Oh jeez

tough shell
#

I had dragon center on my last mobo

#

Then uninstalled and was using afterburner

#

But idk how they work so I didnt do anything w em

jagged ember
#

Armory crate is a big oof

tough shell
#

What does it do?

potent portal
#

Also, @jagged ember I usually run Heaven on loop for a couple hours then Time Spy Extreme stability test a few times

jagged ember
#

Nothing, really

#

Other than occasionally break your pc

frank stirrup
#

gigabyte rgb is the best tbh

jagged ember
#

Sometimes it does rgb stuff

jagged ember
#

And I frickin missed the sale

#

Angy

potent portal
#

Heaven is free at least

jagged ember
#

O really?

potent portal
#

Yeah only the "advanced edition" needs $20

jagged ember
#

Yoo

#

I'm not so mad anymore lol

obsidian wigeon
#

armoury crate never caused me issues

#

then again it's on my mining rig

#

does nothing but mining

tough shell
#

Do I benchmark everything? @potent portal

potent portal
#

The OCCT GPU test also basically does the same thing as Furmark but updated

potent portal
jagged ember
#

Ooo

#

I just downloaded occt recently

tough shell
potent portal
#

Link the results

tough shell
#

this is without any overclocking as well, all stock stuff

potent portal
#

WAIT WHAT

tough shell
#

wat

jagged ember
#

I can't see it

#

Data is ass

obsidian wigeon
#

silicon lottery bois

tough shell
#

what?

obsidian wigeon
#

oh wait

#

that's weird

#

ubm be like kekw

potent portal
#

No I thought it disabled the XMP

tough shell
#

is there any way to check if I accidentally re-enabled it?

potent portal
#

Open task manager

#

Performance, memory

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On the right it says speed

tough shell
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3200mhz

potent portal
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Welp I guess it's enabled

tough shell
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how to I slow my background cpu? close stuff running in back?

potent portal
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And Everything looks to be performing as it should too, give or take a few %

tough shell
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LMFAO

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my right mouse button aint working

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xD

potent portal
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I... well I was looking for problems, I guess that counts

tough shell
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lol

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Ill let ya know tmrw if my other mice work or not if thats ok

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I should go to bed

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4:30am

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:/