building-and-recc-chat

[frank stirrup]

not good either tho

[sacred kayak]

Just be patient and save some money

Atleast buy a 3600

[frank stirrup]

If you stick to like 1440p or up it actually could be nice

[sacred kayak]

Yeah but then the 3090 wouldnt be word it

What was the price

[fossil cedar]

You're gonna bottle the f'in neck out of that, would you not grab a 3600 or 3700x or something

[frank stirrup]

lmao what?

[fossil cedar]

If it was 2600 i would think it would be okay but the jump frkm 1st to 2nd gen ryzen is huge

[frank stirrup]

well yes

[fossil cedar]

You can still mine at full capacity with it lol

[frank stirrup]

just saying 1440 or 4k more playable than 1080

[fossil cedar]

Money printer

[frank stirrup]

Just mine till u get money to buy a new cpu tbh

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[foggy bough]

475 euros

[sacred kayak]

Nice

Were

[foggy bough]

ebay

[sacred kayak]

Did it arive yet

[foggy bough]

nop

[sacred kayak]

Yikes

Just be patient and save money for a better cpu

[fossil cedar]

That's a scam

That's 1/3 of the mythical msrp

[sacred kayak]

Ye ik

F

[fossil cedar]

You're getting a box a picture or nothing at all

[sacred kayak]

It probably is a cool box tho

I was right

[desert gulch]

Box or picture of gpu?

We already know you aren't getting a real one for that price lol

[sacred kayak]

?

[sacred kayak]

i said f in the chat for future you

[desert gulch]

Yea

What did the listing say?

In the description?

[sacred kayak]

i didnt buy the gpu

not me

[desert gulch]

Ohhh ok

Good

[stoic island]

What if, I buy a 3090 from myself, for 1$

[sacred kayak]

exactly

[desert gulch]

Then you lose like 10 cents because of EBay listing stuff

[stoic island]

Lol

[sacred kayak]

i will just save money until the prices are normal and buy a 3080

[desert gulch]

Nice

3080ti or just plain 3080?

3080ti is kinda gonna be super pog ngl

[muted patio]

Gonna be waiting a while

[desert gulch]

Prolly well into 2022 right?

Like Q3-Q4?

[muted patio]

I mean, we'll get the holiday rush

Always do

so IDK

[desert gulch]

Hmm

[fossil cedar]

By that time 4080 will be out tho

[sacred kayak]

IK

ik

[high moss]

Dual rtx 3090

[muted patio]

Worthless unless 3d rendering or modeling

[frank stirrup]

even there a quadro will clock it

[neon anchor]

Lmao @rocky ginkgo whats up with that supreme light

Cool setup btw

[rocky ginkgo]

U not rockin with the supreme light❗️❓

Thanks lol

[neon anchor]

No I got the uuuhhhhh walmart brand lamp I got on clearance

[rocky ginkgo]

Nice

[olive kraken]

If I use the td500 mesh in its standard config of 3intake 0 exhaust but then use my cpu aio 240 as an exhaust that means my cpu cooler is sucking all the hot air out right?

first time im using aio

[neon anchor]

Basically, and thats your most important component

So reconfig as you can

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Maybe not all the hot air

Since 3 intake most likely will intake more than that 240 can exuast

[olive kraken]

Its only hit 71c so far

whilst gaming which is all I do atm

[glass elm]

wait so gigabyte b550m ds3h bios update - the file to rename to use for an update is this one right?

this is in the extracted zip file from the gigabyte website

they said to download, unzip, and rename file but i just want to make sure that B55MDS3H.13h is the actual file that should be used for a bios update

[muted patio]

Yes

[glass elm]

nice, thanks

their thing wasn't super clear so i wanted to double check

[earnest olive]

it'll just create positive pressure and natural exhaust

[frank stirrup]

Why rename?

Dont rename anything

[glass elm]

i'm using usb bios flashing to update the bios for ryzen 5000 so really just doing what gigabyte said on their site

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil cedar]

This could be different but i didn't have to rename my b450 ds3h's bios file when updating its bios btw

[fossil cedar]

Nvm then

[glass elm]

wait were you using a usb flash thing?

[fossil cedar]

Nope i was just updating the bios with a working chip for stability reasons

[glass elm]

ah ok

my guess is the process is different for upgrading bios with chip already vs flashing bios w/o chip/ram/gpu

although i might be wrong

this is my first time building a pc lol

[earnest olive]

my gigabyte board doesn't need rename

[glass elm]

oh huh

[earnest olive]

it's a b550 aorus but doubt there is a difference

still gigabyte

[fossil cedar]

I mean if it says rename i guess no harm?

[glass elm]

i guess

[glass elm]

wait were you using the usb flash thing or bios update with the cpu already in?

[fading acorn]

looking for a compact like tiny as can be machine that can play games 1080p 75fps budget build kinda. someone help?

[potent portal]

"Tiny" and "budget" are very hard to do together

What is the budget?

[fossil cedar]

Usually pretty mutually exclusive lol

[earnest olive]

hmm I didn't use USB actually

[stoic island]

USB flashback usually needs rename

[cold sorrel]

I had to do the rename with mine, since I was using the USB flashback.

[fading acorn]

1k

[rich helm]

Buy a nuc

[fading acorn]

oo whats performance like?

[frank stirrup]

Q flash works with cpu installed as well btw

You dont have to take it out

Whatever gigabyte says

[frank stirrup]

Not on my gigabyte board

[fossil cedar]

Its meh it uses a laptop cpu and no gpu afaik if there's a model with a gpu it's a laptop 1650 r sum

[fossil cedar]

But without cpu?

[rich helm]

You can get like 2060 in one but those are usually fairly expensive and won’t be under 1k

[wicked frigate]

Guys should I wipe my m.2 so there is not residue cause I had to take it out of 2 motherboards with the plastic off the thermal pad

[potent portal]

If you want, shouldn't make any performance difference

[wicked frigate]

With what

And also

Where

Is that normal

The black square thing

[potent portal]

The usual, 90%+ isopropyl alcohol and a microfiber cloth (ideally)

The square looks like a spacer or something

[wicked frigate]

Is it suppose be in that position

[wicked frigate]

Do I have to clean ot

Is it ok if there is residue

Or no???

[potent portal]

Judging from the markings on the board near it, looks like it's in the right place

You don't have to clean it

[wicked frigate]

Is residue a bad thing

[potent portal]

It'll get slightly more dust on it but unless you're in a really dusty place that won't matter at all

[wicked frigate]

Cause the m.2 has been In 2 motherboard and was stocked on the thermal pad

I see

And how do ik of there is residue

can’t I just use a cloth

[potent portal]

You can technically, paper towels I use all the time

[wicked frigate]

Wait

Do I do it on there

Like on the top

Like the sticker

Area

[potent portal]

Wherever it feels sticky

[wicked frigate]

K thx can I just use a cloth

[dire dagger]

I need help I got more ram to say I plugged it in no problem but after I look in task manger it said 2133mhz one stick is 3000mhz and the other 3200mhz after I saw that I watch a video about adjust ram speed using ryzen master after I downloaded I put both of them at 1500 cause after I did that it restarts and didn’t turn on so I plugged out the power cord and plugged it back in after I turn it on it made 3 beeping noise waited for a little and made more noises

Pls help

@potent portal

@next sand

@vivid gale

[wicked frigate]

Don’t @ anyone

They will help you when they can

[next sand]

4 sticks total?

[vivid gale]

you have to clear cmos

[next sand]

if so, I'd remove 2 of the 3000s or 2 of the 3200s

[wicked frigate]

Guys do I install the water block just like this on my mobo

Right????

Like this

[dire dagger]

I took it out and it made the same noise

[wicked frigate]

Also I use micro fiber cloth to wipe off anything on the cpu like dust right

[dire dagger]

Not I only had two one was 3000mhz and other 3000mhz

[next sand]

so you had 2 3000 DIMMs? remove all but one

[dire dagger]

No one of them was 3000mhz the other 3200mhz

I already removed them and it made the same noise

[next sand]

so if you have 1 dimm installed, it still makes noise?

[wicked frigate]

Guys what can be used to wipe down dust on the cpu

[dire dagger]

Yea before I tried it with one and it made the same noise after I took it out so there nothing in and it didn’t work

[next sand]

what kind of noise?

[dire dagger]

3 beeping noise wait a little and more after

[next sand]

ok. did this computer ever work?

[dire dagger]

Yes

It worked

[next sand]

ok, put it back in that configuration and confirm it still works

[dire dagger]

No I’m saying that it worked before I used ryzen master and adjust my ram speed

It still doesn’t work

[desert gulch]

Why use ryzen master to do that

[snow wasp]

i used ryzen master to change my ram and my ran went from cl 16 to cl22 and i saw someone online say that u have to flash your bios to change it

and it worked for me

[desert gulch]

If you just wanna set it once and forget about it just use the bios

[snow wasp]

cuz for some reason any other change that u do to it wont be executed

[dire dagger]

How do you flash your bios

[snow wasp]

uh try to search on yt there's tons of tutorials

but again im not sure the solution about your particular issue

if ur cas latency also got changed and using any other app to change ram wont work then u can try it

[desert gulch]

Do you have bios flashback?

Its a little button on back of mobo

It's the easy way to do it

[next sand]

i would install the original configuration, clear bios, and just take single steps in the bios

[desert gulch]

Altho you can go thru the bios and flash it there too

[desert gulch]

Yo terk you hear that am5 is gonna be on lga1718?

[dire dagger]

What does it look like

[snow wasp]

what motherboard do u have?

[next sand]

i haven't heard that

[dire dagger]

And I trying taking out the cmos and starting it up but I didn’t work

[desert gulch]

Kinda like that

Just a lil button on the back sonewhere

[dire dagger]

It’s not there

[desert gulch]

Then you'll have to go thru the bios

Turn on pc and press delete key or f2 or whatever when prompted

[snow wasp]

or if u got a usb that supports fat32

o wait

that's the flash back right?

[wicked frigate]

Is this right

[dire dagger]

But I can’t go in my bios

Can I send a video

[desert gulch]

Post it here

[wicked frigate]

Is that right

[desert gulch]

Looks like it

Just make sure cpu block isn't a high point in loop, which it looks like its not, so I'd say looks good

[dire dagger]

That ram the old ram

[wicked frigate]

What do u mean by that

[desert gulch]

You don't want any air in the pump, which is usually in that block if it's an aio

[wicked frigate]

Can I show u

[desert gulch]

Looks good tho

To me

[wicked frigate]

Liek this

[dire dagger]

Did you watch the video

[wicked frigate]

@desert gulch is that what u mean

[dire dagger]

@desert gulch

Watch the video pls

[dire dagger]

I posted a video can you looks at it

[next sand]

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Boot-and-Lockup/No-screen-on-startup-3-long-beeps-2-short-beeps/td-p/6979452

[dire dagger]

Ok

I’ll read

[wicked frigate]

Can someone help me????

Is the loop the right way

[potent portal]

Usually you just take a can of compressed air and blow out the radiator

[potent portal]

Yes it's fine

[wicked frigate]

Can I use a microfiber cloth

I thought it wasn’t

[potent portal]

Where on the CPU are you needing to wipe it off?

[wicked frigate]

So that will be fine and will run perfectly right

On the top

Liek here the thermal paste goes

[potent portal]

Oh yeah just use a cloth

[wicked frigate]

Ok

And the aio will run perfectly fine

Right

[potent portal]

Yes

[wicked frigate]

Wait than what does this mean

[wicked frigate]

This

[wicked frigate]

And this

[potent portal]

Basically the only wrong way to mount it is with the radiator on the bottom of the case

With the CPU block above it

[wicked frigate]

Oh

So I did it right cause mine is ay the top the radiator

And what about my block

[potent portal]

Top mount is perfect

The CPU block sits on the CPU

[wicked frigate]

Which way is it pointing

Also can u tell me

If I did my fans right

Top is ex

Bottom and side is in

[potent portal]

Yes that's right

[potent portal]

Like the tubes? They don't matter, put them however they fit

[wicked frigate]

Ok

What about my fans

[potent portal]

Top and rear exhaust
Front and side intake
That is ideal

[wicked frigate]

Wait so how many ex do I have

And in

Can u please tell me

[potent portal]

I see 6 intake and 3 exhaust, if you have one more on the back that's 4 exhaust

With an imbalanced number like that you can just run the exhaust fans a little faster than the intake

[wicked frigate]

Should I plug in my pump headers first or what?

And can you tell me where they go

[potent portal]

The fans for the AIO go on the CPU_FAN header, the pump goes into whatever pump header you have. The rest of the fans go into a hub if you have one, connected to another header.

The order they're plugged in make no difference, it should be off when you plug them in after all

[wicked frigate]

These

@potent portal I put I my own fans

So can I connect them with the commander pro

[potent portal]

The fans on the radiator go the the CPU_FAN header, the rest can go to the commander pro hub, and the hub will be connected to any other header

[wicked frigate]

Ther is no fan on the rad

There are only those 2

One 3 pin

One 4 pin

[potent portal]

Which cooler did you get?

[wicked frigate]

El aio drgb

360

[snow wasp]

u mean ek>

?

[wicked frigate]

Yah

Sry

[potent portal]

And then you swapped the Vardar fans for those corsair ones?

[wicked frigate]

Yes

To match it

I can use the splitter

Right

[potent portal]

So then the fans that you put on the radiator can go to the splitter, connected to the CPU_FAN header, and the rest go to the hub

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Than what about those

2 connects that come form the block

[potent portal]

One is for RGB and can connect to a RGB port on the hub

The other is the pump, which will go to the pump header so it runs 100% all the time

[wicked frigate]

I can plug it on the hub

Ok

Can I put the wires between that

[potent portal]

Wires should be fine there yeah

[wicked frigate]

Which connector do I plug in

[potent portal]

Whichever one fits on the hub

[wicked frigate]

Isn’t the 4 pin connector the aio pump

Right so can I just plug it into the front

Can someone help me

[wicked frigate]

I have this headers but idk where they go

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys where does the power switch go

In the front or the back

By led plus and minus or by hdd led

[rich helm]

Look in motherboard manual

[eternal kindle]

hey guys I’m not too good with pc tech but I have an intel i7-3770k and kept it at core clock speed of 3.5ghz since I had a low profile cooler. I picked up a msi mag coreliquid 240 aio recently and I was looking to overclock it for more performance. Would it damage my cpu with this cooler or would it be safe to go ahead and put it at a boost clock of 3.9 ghz?

[desert gulch]

as long as its keeping it cool enough you should be fine

[ancient wraith]

how do i reinstall nvidia broadcast without messing drivers up

[glass elm]

oh nice

thanks!

[jagged ember]

you just remove it and reinstall it

[sleek karma]

How do I back up my data?

So I am building my first pc and I’m gonna be storing all of my games and my OS on a ssd. But I want to know if there is a way for my pc to automatically backup all of my files to a HDD in case the ssd crashes I still have all of my files.

[potent portal]

Windows has a backup utility built in, just open start menu and type backup

[frank stirrup]

Removing cpu for qflash is unnecessary

You just have to repaste cooler because of it

[frank stirrup]

As long as your core voltages are in the safe limit it should be good

[meager badge]

Is it worth OCing such a CPU? I have a similar one, I bought everything for the new PC bar the 5900 I will have to wait a few weeks maybe, so I am still on a i7 3

I mean, is there a meaningful difference for such an old CPU?

[earnest olive]

I pushed an i7-4770k to 4.6ghz on a $23 air cooler

your cooler is beyond overkill

worth more than the cpu lol

[eternal kindle]

@earnest olive @desert gulch appreciate you guys helping out

@frank stirrup I appreciate you as well

[meager badge]

Lol, just checked, I also have a 3770. I forgot the model name.

[frank stirrup]

It definitely will increase performance by some. Whether its worth it or not depends on you.

[meager badge]

From an old snail, it will turn into an oldish snail 😄

[frank stirrup]

Old snail -> slightly faster equally old snail

[meager badge]

It will be perfect for my father for fast browsing 😄 An upgrade to his actual PC

[fossil cedar]

Ohh nice, i thought they were igpu only for some reason

[wicked frigate]

Can someone help me with the aio headers and where they go

I have the ek aio

D rgb 360

Should i use the splitter

But the problem is that in the splitter there are 2 3 pin ones

And one 4 pin

And my fan headers have a 4 pin

[mighty kiln]

Should I get this because im new to PCs. And I want a gaming pc so idk

[fossil cedar]

No

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget

[mighty kiln]

Like 1,000

[fossil cedar]

Ohh holy 💩 if you bought that for 1k

[mighty kiln]

No I didn’t lol

[fossil cedar]

1k usd? Or diff country?

[neon anchor]

Just because it looks cool doesn’t mean it has good specs

[mighty kiln]

Usd

[fossil cedar]

Okay lemme see

[mighty kiln]

Yea Ik I was just asking

[neon anchor]

Are you comfortable building your own

[mighty kiln]

Idk how

And everybody tells me just buy a prebuilt one

[neon anchor]

Debatable anyway because these build retailers can get the gpus cheaper

[mighty kiln]

What pc should I get

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali521/p/N82E16883360126 get this

[mighty kiln]

Ok

Is it good for gaming

or just browsing

[fossil cedar]

Ye good for gaming

[mighty kiln]

Ok

[neon anchor]

Yeah thats much better

Good find

[mighty kiln]

I’m going to look

[fossil cedar]

That's the best you can find for 1k btw

You aint gonna find anything above that unless you increase budget

[mighty kiln]

ok ty

Don’t make fun of me but is it good for fortnite

Ima fortnite kid 🤷🏽‍♂️

and cod

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it will easily do 1080p gaming

[neon anchor]

It’ll do fine

[mighty kiln]

around how much ping

[mighty kiln]

Ok 👌🏽

[neon anchor]

Ping is based on your internet not your pc

What do you have for internet?

[fossil cedar]

That completely depends on your internet provider, where you live and where the server you're playing on is located and how far from you it is

[mighty kiln]

Wdym

My internet provider is at&t

[fossil cedar]

Read my explanation above again

[fossil cedar]

And what your internet speeds are

[stoic island]

basically

[mighty kiln]

Oh

[stoic island]

@mighty kiln internet weird, we can't tell you what you'll get

because we don't live where you live

[mighty kiln]

Yea

[fossil cedar]

And where the game server is either

[mighty kiln]

Well i play na East servers

[fossil cedar]

Your ping will most likely change slightly from game to game

[fossil cedar]

That's not helpful tbh

[stoic island]

every game has different servers at different locations

[mighty kiln]

I think 21.Mbps I think I don’t remember

[stoic island]

we can't tell you what you'll get because we don't live in your house

[mighty kiln]

😂 yea

[stoic island]

the house opposite of your house might get vastly better or worse ping

it is what it is

[mighty kiln]

Ya

I normally play on 15 ping

Because I have a console setup

[stoic island]

some NA east servers might be in NYC, some might be in like Chicago, some may be in like Atlanta, who knows

[mighty kiln]

I’m in Florida but yea you right

[neon anchor]

15ms ping ain’t bad

[stoic island]

Yes, different games servers in different places

[fossil cedar]

Ping will also depend on wifi or ethernet as well

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but 15ms could be on fortnite but cod could be like 80ms

[neon anchor]

I used to be a network tech, I could help a little bit with your network hardware

Sheesh yeah

[mighty kiln]

Ya

[neon anchor]

Well if he mostly wants it for fortnite then it shouldn’t be an issue

[mighty kiln]

Yea I do

[fossil cedar]

Also ping can't always be compared across games as some games have really good netcode unlike others

[mighty kiln]

I play competitive

I make earnings off of the game

[neon anchor]

Ok so you should have a cable modem direct from AT&T. But you can buy aftermarket modems with high throughput for gaming from companies like netgear

[fossil cedar]

If you wanna play competitively and make money you'd want to put more budget into your pc tbh

And into upgrading your internet

[mighty kiln]

Yea but I’m only 14

[neon anchor]

Basically you just plug the coax cable from the at&t modem into the aftermarket and you should be good but it’s only gonna be limited to your service through your ISP

[stoic island]

router could also be beneficial, depends on what you have

[mighty kiln]

Well I was thinking

I could sell my PS4

Cause I have the 1,000

so I would have 1.5

I guess that would be better idk

[neon anchor]

The new modems have an integrated router, no need

[stoic island]

hm?

are they half decent?

[neon anchor]

So if its his parents service he really just has to run an ethernet cable from the at&t modem to his pc

Oh yeah the new ones are monsters

Getting one for my house, new netgear modems running gig internet at AX wifi

[stoic island]

huh

[neon anchor]

I’ll go find one

[mighty kiln]

This is my current setup

[stoic island]

Welp, for now, I'll still be chillin with amplifi router as recommendation, since usually it's just modem and router separately

But I've also been fairly lucky with isp providing decent modems

[muted patio]

My motorola is fast as heck

[fossil cedar]

@mighty kiln if you can spend a bit more i would do the first one and a better router https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994 the 2nd one is slightly better but imo not worth the jump https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali515/p/N82E16883360115

[neon anchor]

Oh damn they’re up to 2.5g/s modems now

https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/modems/cm2050v/

This one is for xfinity tho, thats what I have

[mighty kiln]

We used to have xfinity

[stoic island]

huh

[mighty kiln]

but my parents switched because they were having horrible service something about that

[neon anchor]

Expensive but you get what you pay for

[stoic island]

just singular modem tho

not modem/router combo

[mighty kiln]

I would just buy this one cuz it’s only like a 200$ difference

[mighty kiln]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

What one?

The 2nd one?

[mighty kiln]

the one u just sent

ye

Which is better

[neon anchor]

Woops thats the wrong one then

[fossil cedar]

I sent 2 lol

[stoic island]

3060 is good

[mighty kiln]

1st or 2nd one

[fossil cedar]

Is it worth 300 over 2060 tho

[mighty kiln]

which is better

[stoic island]

yea might've pasted wrong link

@fossil cedar ignoring everything else, I'd say probably

[mighty kiln]

So which is better 1st one or 2nd

[fossil cedar]

Woops did i send same link twice?

[mighty kiln]

No

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough

2nd one is better

It's just more expensive

[mighty kiln]

Ye

I think I’ll get 2nd one not that big of a price diff

I’ve never bought from Newegg. Is it 100% safe

[fossil cedar]

Ye

The link i sent is

[neon anchor]

@stoic island this is the one, I was looking in the modem-only section

https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/modem-routers/cax80/

[stoic island]

oh boi that price

[neon anchor]

Ye lol

[fossil cedar]

As long as it's shipped by newegg it is anyway, like Amazon 3rd party sellers can be iffy

[stoic island]

well

[mighty kiln]

Ye

[neon anchor]

Look at the speeds though

[stoic island]

it's 802.11ax, it is what it is

Personally I still like amplifi's router offerings though

[fossil cedar]

430$ for a router wtf

[stoic island]

mesh networks would be great

@fossil cedar this is 370$ just for the router and I'd still consider it
https://www.amplifi.com/alien

[fossil cedar]

Least that's like 80 less

[mighty kiln]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994 @fossil cedar it’s this one right

[neon anchor]

Its a modem with a router in it, it gives your house the tv signal, phone, etc too

[fossil cedar]

Yeah, the one with the 3060 is better but its 1500 so probs not in your budget

[fossil cedar]

Why would your tv come from your router??

[mighty kiln]

Yea I could but I also might save up to buy the router you guys are talking about

[stoic island]

modem*

TV can come from modem

[neon anchor]

For a lot of people the modem from their ISP is the bottleneck, even if they have a nice router attached to it

[stoic island]

anyways

ye, personally I think a decent modem and one of these is all people really need
https://www.amplifi.com/amplifi-hd

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see

[neon anchor]

Right, mesh wifi to cover the rest of the house

[stoic island]

802.11ac mesh router for 150$, can buy extra mesh bois if necessary

mesh points is what they call it

[mighty kiln]

I don’t really understand half the conversation anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️

[neon anchor]

But it depends on house size, because the new netgears have a good 30’ stable range because of beamforming

[stoic island]

fair

but also some house designs with thicccc walls and roofs

[neon anchor]

Oh yeah our house is from the 40’s, its all plaster and cementboard

We have 2 routers in our house because of it

[stoic island]

fair, not mesh network?

[neon anchor]

Nah, we finagled our own “mesh” with the routers, the real mesh thing is just a gimmick

[stoic island]

gotcha

[neon anchor]

My dad is a PM for a computer engineering service and I used to work as a network tech under him

[stoic island]

Yea

You could configure extra routers correctly to basically work as a mesh network

It would just be more convenient for most people to buy a mesh network at that point

[neon anchor]

Both routers are netgear, I control them with my phone app. They spit out the same wifi signal so you can walk from one side of the house to the other without issues. Both are run off of the modem. Any hardwired devices are then connected to each router

Yeah thats for people who dont have networking experience

I’ve set up huge aerohive networks for office buildings, schools, etc

[stoic island]

fair

Do you run ethernet cables through your walls?

[neon anchor]

Under the floors through our basement

[stoic island]

gotcha

[mighty kiln]

Thanks guys, ima gonna buy the 2nd one.

Not right now though I’m going to buy it for my birthday

Which is in September but I can be patient

[stoic island]

Market is always changing, so come back again at that time

[mighty kiln]

Yea

It might be cheaper

I hope

[stoic island]

or NVidia releases a 3060 ti super ultra for 300$, who knows

[mighty kiln]

yea I don’t know what that means but it sounds good so yea let’s hope

The pc I’m gonna buy later on it comes already built or does it come with the pieces and I have to assemble it

[fossil cedar]

Basically look again when you're ready to buy newer better things get released all the time

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys quick question can I just assemble my psu on my table and connect everything just to see if everything works

Or no

[warm kayak]

i didn't but ive seen it done that way

[wicked frigate]

Guys do you know which usb the commander pro wire plugs into

It just says usb on it

[muted patio]

Any of hte 9 pin USB 2 headers on the motherboard. usually they are on the bottom of the board. Same place the front panel USB plugs in

[wicked frigate]

Ok thx

[forest nexus]

What the better gaming processor, Ryzen 7 5800x or Core I9-10850?

[fossil cedar]

5800x

[muted patio]

5800x has faster single core speeds for gaming

[fossil cedar]

but 10850k is a decent amount cheaper

so depends on budget which you should choose but 5800x faster in games

[forest nexus]

but is it worth the 400 euro difference?

[muted patio]

400 euro difference????

[fossil cedar]

its not a 400 euro difference its about a 100 euro difference

[muted patio]

yeah that seems like a scalper price

[fossil cedar]

youre looking at a scalper listing

[forest nexus]

here in spain it is

im looking at a reliable website

[muted patio]

I mean

Microcenter in the US is reliable but they were scalping Ryzen CPU's also :/

[forest nexus]

wait nvm on amazon its alot less

its only 20 euros more expensive on amazon

thats a good deal right?

[muted patio]

Yes

SOunds more like MSRP $449 USD

[forest nexus]

yeah thats what it is here on amazon

whats a good motherboard to pair it with?

[muted patio]

SOmething B550 chipset

[forest nexus]

b550f

that any good?

[muted patio]

yes

[fossil cedar]

reliable websites can have 3rd party sellers

[forest nexus]

yeah i guess

[fossil cedar]

what site?

470 sounds about right yeah

[forest nexus]

found it on amazon for 430

[fossil cedar]

nice

[muted patio]

Wow

[wicked frigate]

Took a long time lol

[neon anchor]

Nice

[muted patio]

Looks good

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys just want to turn on my pc to see if everything works

Do I need to plug int he hdd

Or no

I just want to see if aio works

Cpu

Fans

And do I have to post it on screen

[neon anchor]

Technically I’m pretty sure it can post without the hdd

[wicked frigate]

Ok also

Can someone tell me if my aio headers are I. The right place

One in aio pump and one in rgb header

Is that right

[neon anchor]

I don’t know about building cases with rgb headers

Lets ask

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

🤷 i leave rgb alone its a pain in the assss

[neon anchor]

F

Who would know

[potent portal]

Yeah the pump on the cpu block would plug into the aio pump header, and the rgb can either go to its own header or plugged into a hub

[ancient wraith]

Is this ok too do real fast

[neon anchor]

Nice setup but definitely don’t try to have everything on the motherboard before you install it into the case

[ancient wraith]

I am switching cases

[neon anchor]

Remove the graphics card at least, keep it safe. You’lll probably have to take off the cooler too depending on how hard it is to get around in the new case

[ancient wraith]

I feel like I am breaking pins

[neon anchor]

How?! Make sure the little locking tab on the back is loosened

It should slide out

[ancient wraith]

On my mobile

Mobo

Pins on back

[potent portal]

Put it on cardboard, less conductive

Oh wait it is on cardboard, you have it on the box. That's perfect.

There's no "pins" to bend on the back really

[ancient wraith]

Ok

But when I put it in the case

It wasn't the smoothest

[potent portal]

What do you mean? Some minor grinding sounds won't matter, metal on metal or silicon will do that.

[ancient wraith]

A scrape of a sort

What's these

[potent portal]

RGB

A-RGB specifically, the one with a gap goes to the motherboard

[potent portal]

Sata power

[potent portal]

Looks like part of the hub /splitter for rgb

[neon anchor]

External lights and switches

Power, reset and such I think

[ancient wraith]

Wait why did the case come with stand offs

Are they not installed already

[neon anchor]

What

[potent portal]

... Every case should have standoffs

[neon anchor]

You always install yourself

[potent portal]

Different size motherboards need different standoff configurations

[neon anchor]

Please tell me you didnt have your bare motherboard flat against your old case

[ancient wraith]

No

Looks like they are pre-installed

[neon anchor]

Lucky

[potent portal]

It probably has the 4 that every board type needs and then more for the different types

[ancient wraith]

I have atx

Am I ok

Or did I mess up

[potent portal]

There's 6 screws for ATX, are all 6 on standoffs?

[neon anchor]

Should be since thats the standard

[potent portal]

ITX only uses 4

[muted patio]

Atx was 9 i thought. 3 top, middle and bottom.

[ancient wraith]

I hope it came with 9 Stand offs

So I messed up

Like I'm screwed

I see 9 stand off

Offa

[potent portal]

Was it? I'm going from memory, could be wrong

[ancient wraith]

Are they extras

[potent portal]

Sort of
You don't technically need every one of the standoff screws, they ground the board to the case

[muted patio]

Matx is 6

Atx is 9

I think

I know atx is 9, its matx im not sure about.

[potent portal]

I think ITX was 4 and that's where I got confused

[ancient wraith]

So

Am I ok

Or In need of a new mobo

[potent portal]

If all the screws on the board are attached to standoffs, you're good. If you had to bend the board to attach without standoffs, you might have damaged it.

[ancient wraith]

Ok

I need too figure out front panel

[potent portal]

Check the motherboard manual for those, the headers are usually bottom right of the board

[ancient wraith]

I don't see a thing in the manual for f panel

This makes me more confused

I think I did it wrong

[strange wadi]

Take another shot of the motherboard panel connectors ? (Like front shot)

[strange wadi]

Alright, here we go:

Top Far right: That's where Power LED goes.

Bottom Far Right: H.D.D. LED goes there,

Bottom Far Left: The LED's are spaced apart by one dot, move the Negative to the far end

[ancient wraith]

1.ll

[strange wadi]

Eyup, you got it

[ancient wraith]

How about these

[fluid minnow]

Help my motherboard light turns on but nothing else

[strange wadi]

Alrighty, take a picture of the front panel connecters and I'll draw some labels to where to put then

[strange wadi]

What happened or what's going on with your motherboard ?

[strange wadi]

Alrighty here's the image

You got it done ?

[strange wadi]

Eyup done and done

[strange wadi]

Wait, I just realized that everything else was fine, only the LED's had to be spaced apart, but no worries all still good, had that happen to my motherboard as well

[ancient wraith]

Thanks man

[strange wadi]

Welcome anytime, always glad to help out! : D

[ancient wraith]

I turned it on and all the Fan spun up and then 3 of them stopped completely

And it's making a whirring noise

[strange wadi]

What about the motherboard/pc, did it post ?

[ancient wraith]

O haven't checked hold on

I

It posted

[strange wadi]

Alrighty nice that's great to hear!
I guess it's the fans that need replacing

Maybe it's set at max speed ?

What fans are they ?

[ancient wraith]

Just one fan is stopped

It came with the case

The first time I turned it on it was the top one now it's the middle

[potent portal]

Maybe some sort of power issue with the hub

[ancient wraith]

Maby

How do I take the front thing off td500

I change the rpm in sive Then turned on

Is it some sort of idol fans stop then

[potent portal]

Not likely but check the motherboard settings

It could be the PWM signal is out of range for those fans

[ancient wraith]

I just did it was off

whats that

[potent portal]

Try setting the minimum fan speed higher

[ancient wraith]

It's not connected too a hub it's on a splitter

Now they are just spinning

[desert gulch]

How many are on that splitter?

[wicked frigate]

I need help

Where does this connect

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/idgaf-bruce-lee-clapping-clap-think-gif-5075820

[wicked frigate]

???

Where does that go

This is for my cousin bot. One

Not mine

[lyric thistle]

fan header

[last fractal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cVwMNP is this good

[stoic island]

ehm

11900k

what's the reasoning?

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/when-big-chungus-when-big-chungus-chungus-gif-20485626

[stoic island]

everything is just a bit subpar on that

sadly

[potent portal]

Literally everything in the list I would change

[stoic island]

hey, least the ram isn't too bad :P

[potent portal]

3200C16 does not go with the "highest performance" Intel chip

[last fractal]

GAMING IG

[stoic island]

eh, 2x16gb for decently cheap is fine, esp since we would prob switch to like 11400/11600/10700/10900

tho ballistix would be neat

everything else is subpar

[potent portal]

5800X matches the 11900k in gaming
Don't listen to userbenchmark, it's not even close to the #1 CPU

[stoic island]

My edit if staying with Intol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xC4XQD

Price set for 6700xt is what I've seen that GPU get restocked for on amazon

[last fractal]

what should i buy11900k or rysen 9 5900 for gaming and streaming

[stoic island]

gaming and streaming doesn't really need that many cores

but 5900x

5800x would probably make more sense

or just go 11600k

[potent portal]

5900X is good for spending more money to say you did. Nothing will use that many cores except for workstation workloads.

[analog knoll]

whats yours guys opinion on this setup im thinking of building.. ryzen 9 5900x,3080 evga,asus crosshair x570 vii hero, 1tb ssd 970 evo, 1tb hdd, corsair 460x case, corsair h100 liquid cooler. this is for gaming only. trying to be more competive in warzone, hoping to get 200fps at 1080p....

[potent portal]

That'll get the job done for sure. I'd get a bigger HDD and a different case though.

[analog knoll]

sorry forgot my ram, 32gb 3600mh gskill trident

ok, you mean like full size or better mid tower case

[potent portal]

A better mid tower with more airflow, like corsair 4000d airflow

[analog knoll]

ok thanks. you think my build is capable of 200 fps warzone 1080P?

[potent portal]

No doubt

Just enable PBO for the processor so it boosts higher

[analog knoll]

not sure what pbo is? lol

[potent portal]

Precision Boost Overdrive
It lets the processor go beyond AMD specifications to boost higher for longer times. It's a little like overclocking, but more intelligent.

[analog knoll]

ok thanks

[last fractal]

Give me the best build 2,500 and under

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7BFwQD

[desert gulch]

Have you seen the microcenter price for 5800x rn?

[potent portal]

Are they scalping them again? Or is it actually lower than the $418 on Amazon?

[last fractal]

but there is a incomabtle

[potent portal]

That just says you might need to update the BIOS

[stoic island]

144$ b550 a pro tho

much sad price

[last fractal]

idk much about pcs

[desert gulch]

399.99 in store

[last fractal]

i kinda dont want to wait months for a 3080

[desert gulch]

As low as 379.99

[stoic island]

could go 140$ b550m aorus pro, or 110$ b550m pro-vdh wifi

[potent portal]

About $20 less than Amazon then, not bad. Finally getting down to reasonable pricing.

[stoic island]

eh, it's the same wait as 6700xt

[desert gulch]

I mean especially for 379.99 that's a steal

[stoic island]

once every few days there's drops

[potent portal]

6700XT for the same price as 3080 lol

[stoic island]

eh

6700xt drops are like 800$

3080 usually around 1000$

ofc there's also FE

6700xt fe is like 480$ lol

[last fractal]

idk know though i wouldnt even get a 3080 because kids have servers

[potent portal]

What would servers have to do with the GPU choice?

[last fractal]

=no hesaid there is drops every few days and thats why i said that kids will get them before me

[stoic island]

there's a bunch of stock notification servers

get a few and you'll be good

[ancient wraith]

should i have a custom fan curve or the auto ones

[desert gulch]

Well do the auto ones work fine for you?

[ancient wraith]

yah

i was just wondering is there was a benefit

[desert gulch]

you'll be trading noise for perf if you are looking for better cooling

[potent portal]

Fan speed is a balance between cooler and quieter.

[desert gulch]

yup

[potent portal]

If you want more of one or the other, you can adjust it.

[ancient wraith]

ok

[verbal quarry]

how good is the cv550 power supply?

[lyric thistle]

eh

[hollow rain]

so i got a corsair h115i platinum rgb aio, i recently got the usb cable in the mail that makes the softwares detect the actual aio. videos i watch tell me to plug the micro usb end into the pump then the opposite end to a motherboard usb connector. this is what i would plug it into correct?

i’m teaching myself how to build with yt help so mind if i seem a little uneducated on this stuff

[verbal quarry]

can you help me get a psu thats decent and doesnt break bank?

looking for a 550 at least

[hollow rain]

i’d recommend a corsair cx550

[obsidian wigeon]

cx

neh

it's not good for the price

[hollow rain]

or 650, it’s what i have and it’s around 95

[lyric thistle]

CX 550 is good

Segotep SG-700G

[hollow rain]

prices are absurd these days so to get something decent youll have to fork out a bit more than you’d like

[lyric thistle]

somehing liek tat

[obsidian wigeon]

but the segotep exists for the price

still nice quality yet higher wattage

[hollow rain]

so can someone help with this

[verbal quarry]

how good is a cv650?

[obsidian wigeon]

cv is bad

[lyric thistle]

into the thing that has printed on top of the headers in big font "USB"

I guess

don't go cv

[verbal quarry]

ok

[lyric thistle]

650 looks like is better than 550 of cv but still don't

[desert gulch]

You can get a fully modular A tier 650 for that price lol

[hollow rain]

mine is a fully modular unit

[lyric thistle]

cxm

[desert gulch]

Not an A tier tho

[lyric thistle]

has coil whine issues

[desert gulch]

Yea

[hollow rain]

mine doesn’t

[lyric thistle]

goes wrrrrrrrreeeeeee

[hollow rain]

had it for almost a year and no coil problems

[lyric thistle]

lucky boy

[desert gulch]

So yours is the rgb one?

[potent portal]

It's usually a really high frequency, so high some people don't notice it

[hollow rain]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CX650F-Bronze-Modular-Supply/dp/B08FVFDYFD/ref=asc_df_B08FVFDYFD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475750632217&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5650380471055570848&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9006756&hvtargid=pla-1024730942285&psc=1

[hollow rain]

yessir

[lyric thistle]

650f

[desert gulch]

Nice

[hollow rain]

even cheaper than the semi not rgb version

at 80$usd compared to the 95$usd

kinda weird but yk

[potent portal]

I never realized how much I was spending on all my PC parts and accessories until I put it all in a list. Roast my build. Tell me what sucks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6yNJ9N

[verbal quarry]

ive heard the price to performance on the 5800x is bad

also why 2 1tb hdd?

just buy a 2tb hdd

same for the 2.5 ssd

[potent portal]

Leftovers from former builds and an upgrade for a friend

[verbal quarry]

ooooh ok

well maybe look to getting a different case?

[potent portal]

RAID SATA because why not

[verbal quarry]

idk what the storage capacity is on that case

[potent portal]

Not as bad as the 11900k that it competes with

[potent portal]

It has a tray behind the mobo that fits 3x 2.5 inch drives, then there's the drive cage that holds 2x 3.5 drives

[verbal quarry]

i see it now

it looks good imo

and you get the mesh front version so airflow wont be an issue

[potent portal]

I do want a different case though, so I can have both AIO coolers intake

Eventually I'll do full custom loop

[verbal quarry]

how much you willing to spend on a case rn?

[potent portal]

Probably $150 or so, I feel like that's a good sweet spot

[verbal quarry]

corsair 5000D

[potent portal]

I was kinda thinking the same, so there's plenty of room when I loop everything

[verbal quarry]

yea and you get 10 fan slots

honestly wish i got that case instead of the one i got XD

[potent portal]

Live and learn lol

[verbal quarry]

yea i got a rosewill prism case

looks great

not having a hard time with airflow either

just dont know about the expansion capabilities

not as bad as the o11

and you get fans with your purchase lol

if i could and had the money

i would go the 5000D

only because i feel it has better airflow

and it seems like it has more filters on it

[potent portal]

Those two statements are contradictory, more filters restricts airflow

But they are removable filters

[lyric thistle]

more filters is more better

[verbal quarry]

the area where my pc is rn. i need air filters

tho it is temporary and the filters can come off easily

[jagged ember]

But still, filter restrict airflow

Best airflow is no filter

[lyric thistle]

I get the imjpression thermaltake doubles down on filters too much

[potent portal]

Having 6 intake and 4 exhaust, but the intakes being restricted a bit by filters and rads, kinda works out

[lyric thistle]

but I'm still gonna be happy with my H18 TG

[jagged ember]

TT foam filter is kinda restrictive

[lyric thistle]

foam?

they put foam filters in some of their cases?

[jagged ember]

yeah, the uhh

core v21 or something

theres a foam front filter on that

GN tells you to cut it out for max airflow

[lyric thistle]

interesting

[jagged ember]

would you cut out the front foam filter?

[earnest olive]

I'm already used to cleaning my pc every few days

might as well

[tight sorrel]

Anyone else have this issue: finish building PC. Super happy, and then soon after start noticing small details that irritate them that need fixing? in my case I noticed that my GPU power cables are not perfectly parallel?

[potent portal]

It's a curse we all share

[lyric thistle]

lol

[lyric thistle]

https://youtu.be/-nlgp3HfE5I the SG13 has a filter on the front mesh, can't find much about thermaltake filters

owait

G21

https://youtu.be/dNnMC0jtfos

probably

[lyric thistle]

yea xd

2.5 filter

[neon anchor]

@fossil cedar that cpu in the build you made me, the i9, can that be overclocked easy or would that not be recommended because it’s already powerful as is

[fossil cedar]

It's definitely overclockable yes

[neon anchor]

I meant easily? And how about undervolting for less heat or is that not recommended for the i9’s

[fossil cedar]

I'm not very verse in overclocking cpus but I'm sure there would be plenty of experienced people in #overclocking that can help, and undervolting isn't needed the arctic liquid ii will easily handle the i9

[neon anchor]

@urban verge are you running blood or Shirley temple through that pc

Because that looks rad

[tight sorrel]

That spiral is quite interesting. not seen that before

[urban verge]

Lol, it's XSPC EC-6 Blood Red coolant.

[urban verge]

That spiral is to fit my Cyclone (tornado) theme, as it's based on my college sports team.

[tight sorrel]

sick. why is your RAM not lit?

[urban verge]

That freehand bend was my 3rd attempt. Took about an hour or more to get it right.

[tight sorrel]

oh jeez! freehand!

[urban verge]

It ain't perfect, but there aren't any tools out there to help make a conical spiral either. 😆

And the RAM is lit, it just has an animation. Picture caught it when it was off.

Thanks iCUE

[tight sorrel]

bruh, the fact that you made that freehand, and that it still ligns up with the barbs that are offset from each other is just... slow clap

btw, stealing that ram animation now

[urban verge]

In iCUE, two versions of Color Wave applied to alternating DIMM slots.

[tight sorrel]

I never even thought of running animations in opposite directions. Looks good!

[urban verge]

Now I have one more project for it that I'm working on: replacement stickers for the Corsair fans.

As much as I love seeing the fan information 6 different times...

[tight sorrel]

The 011D's biggest issue is that you see the back of the fans! I looked into this myself, and if you are interested what I found is that there is currently only 1 ARGB fan on the market that runs in reverese so that you dont see the hub if you mount it in your case

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/sickleflow-120-argb-reverse-edition/

[fossil cedar]

You could always just get a front intake case or look at the fan cage :o

[frigid island]

Hey everyone I’m looking to build my first gaming pc, can anyone let me know if this list I made has any compatibility issues or anything? If not I’m definitely going forward with buying it, this is the only thing that’s hanging me up. Thanks y’all 🙂

https://www.newegg.com/tools/custom-pc-builder/share/xhkWDYaP9YuvMU%2FqRkZS0EGqN73YHdDK

[young fox]

im just saying u could use a nvme if ur gaming

[tight sorrel]

is that a 1060 for 1000 US dollars?

[young fox]

oof

they have a 1060 on newegg for 568 us dollars

[tight sorrel]

also, that case is HUGE, and has 5.25" bays... are you planning on putting DVD drives in there?

[frigid island]

I’m not lol I could get a smaller case. This is exactly the type of feedback I need, I’m a total beginner here

[tight sorrel]

look at: Phanteks P400, Corsair 4000d, Lian Li lnacool ii

[fierce elk]

hey guys wha tis the best gpu for my build? i have a i5 11400, 16 gb of 3600 speed ram

??

[tight sorrel]

3060 / 3060ti

[fierce elk]

would a 3070 be better?? or would my cpu limit the power

[fierce elk]

?

[tight sorrel]

depends, what resolution will you plan to play at?

[tight sorrel]

ofc 3070 is better. but even better is a 3090. all depends on your budget, intended resolution and availability.

[fierce elk]

i could maybe get a 3060 or a 3070

i dont really have a budget but i dont wanna spend too much

[tight sorrel]

if you can get a 3070 sure, but a 3060 will be just fine

[obsidian wigeon]

3060Ti isn't that much slower than 3070 tho..

I don't suggest 3070 at all

[frigid island]

Sorry back again, changed out the case with the one you suggested. Any suggestions on a video card to run with this setup?

https://newegg.io/61cdf4c

[tight sorrel]

one more thing: when getting ram, look for a kit with 2 sticks, instead of 1 stick

[fierce elk]

i recomend getting a higher wattige power supply, depending on what GPU u get, but with that cpu, i reccomend getting a higher end card

[tight sorrel]

650W is fine. he will be able to go to a 3080 with it

[obsidian wigeon]

10850k isn't that fast lol

ew hyper 212

the poor 10850k will heat up to hell

lemme fix it

also why buy windows license

you can get ones off ebay

[tight sorrel]

the issue is that 3060ti are rarer than hens teeth these days

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

man this build has many wrongs, gimme a min

[frigid island]

Word foxy, I’m v open to suggestions, I know next to nothing

[obsidian wigeon]

wait it aint pcpp

aw, but alright

can't edit it tho

so imma say it all out

ssd can be changed into mushkin pilot-e

ditch that qvo

[fierce elk]

i think this might be a bit better than the 10850k, benchmarks say its better https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-11700k-core-i7-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118233?Description=intel 11 gen cpu&cm_re=intel_11 gen cpu-_-19-118-233-_-Product&quicklink=true

[obsidian wigeon]

as for cooler, se-224xt should do

vetroo v5 if you want rgb

[tight sorrel]

for that price he might as well go with a Ryzen 5800x

[fierce elk]

its 3 dollars more than the 10850k

does any1 know @frigid island budget?

[jagged ember]

10850 runs colder

Is basically a 10900k but lower binned iirc

[tight sorrel]

no. hes a complete newb asking for advice

[frigid island]

Between 2400-2600, thanks everyone

[fierce elk]

ok

damn he could build a pretty beefy pc for that price

[frigid island]

Y’all so lovely and helpful thank you 🙂

[fierce elk]

2400-2600 for everything, or just the pc?