#building-and-recc-chat

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muted patio
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CPU pulls 120W

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550W is only overkill until you get a GPU

hallow glen
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ok

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i mean it's not for me

fossil cedar
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550w isn't overkill lol? There's like decent psu under 500w anyway

hallow glen
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its overkill for the actual apu. i don't know if my friend will add a gpu in the future, but probably not

woven wedge
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So my build is a little over a year old now and I just started having a problem and was hoping someone here would know something about it.

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Sometimes when I turn my pc on or wake it up, my main display doesn’t pick up the signal. The monitor will start to come out of sleep mode but will just say no signal. My second display always works fine. The main display is using display port.

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To fix it I have to unplug it and plug it back in.

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Anyone know why this would be happening?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
civic gate
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I need an 8+6 pin cable for my graphics card, but my EVGA PSU didn’t come with one... any recommendations?

civic gate
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Not entirely sure

fossil cedar
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8+8?

civic gate
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Here is my card but as you can see I need a 6 pin for card

civic gate
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It’s the EVGA B5 550w

fossil cedar
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What psu?

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Okay

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What gpu?

civic gate
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sapphire pulse+ Rx 570

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4gb

fossil cedar
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And there's no pigtail lead you can use?

civic gate
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Nope

fossil cedar
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Should come with another 8 pin pcie

civic gate
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Hmm I’ll check when I get home

fossil cedar
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Looks like it might not come with acc

civic gate
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Rip

civic gate
fossil cedar
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Well acc should not need it

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It should get enough power from the board and single pci cable

fossil cedar
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But i would look for a decent pig tail cable anyway

woven wedge
woven wedge
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my name just has r5-3600, rx 580, and 16 gb of ram

fossil cedar
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Have you tried a different cable?

civic gate
fossil cedar
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Mb try that

civic gate
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on Amazon people said that I can probably get away with using just the 8 pin, but I’ll probably just buy an extension cable adapter

fossil cedar
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Try it later then?

civic gate
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GPU VGA PCI-e 8Pin PCI Express Graphics Video Card GPU VGA 8 Pin Female to Dual GPU 8( 6+2 ) Pin Male GPU 8 pin Splitter Power Sleeved Extension Cable 8Pin GPU (9-inch) TeamProfitcom https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B4779M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_3YQ26Z4PB8MQZRYWTS0E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

fossil cedar
civic gate
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probably gonna buy this

civic gate
fossil cedar
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Don't

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Buy that

civic gate
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y

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?

fossil cedar
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Psu pinouts differ

civic gate
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okay

civic gate
frank stirrup
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where the list at

little osprey
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Tuf gaming x570 pro (wifi)
Ryzen 5800x
Coolermaster TD500
Asus VG248
3x 1tb Crucial M.2
RM850
Gamer Storm Castle 360EX
3600 Ballistix 32
LL120 Corsair fans
GT 710 (RiP)

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@frank stirrup

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Some extra perips not worth talking about

fossil cedar
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That's like 1.5k

little osprey
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Not what my credit card tells me haha

supple rampart
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I am new to pc modding and I wanted to know if I mount my AIO like this, will it degrade my tubing? Side note:this is a prebuilt that I upgraded. (That’s the reason why there’s mismatched ram and why I’m asking about the AIO)

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If it matters, this is a Corsair H60

fossil cedar
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Is that a 120mm aio....

lyric thistle
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Lotta prebuilts equip 120mils

fossil cedar
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The tubing should be fine but if you just bought that return it, 120mm aios perform worse than a 30$ air cooler

rancid lodge
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120 kinda pointless really

fossil cedar
rancid lodge
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get a 360mm, or at least, a 240mm

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mmmm I found this on EK and I think ima make my summer goal for my PC to get a 3080, this, and a full water cooling loop set up

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would look pretty damn cool in my O11D XL

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but a yikes 370 USD

supple rampart
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danggg! I bought the AIO thinking it would be better than the intel stock cooler

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i'm new to all this

rancid lodge
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well it probably is but

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what CPU are you cooling

supple rampart
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this is going to sound crazy but the i5 10400f. I have my reasons

rancid lodge
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240 is prob fine then

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I wouldn't go 360 with a 10400f

supple rampart
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240 mm?

rancid lodge
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mhm

supple rampart
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okay

frank stirrup
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120 aio worse than 30$ air coolers

rancid lodge
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yeah

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but prob better than the stock intel cooler

restive violet
fossil cedar
void lantern
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can someone help me troubleshoot an issue ive been having with my pc?

rancid lodge
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since he's rocking a 10400f

fossil cedar
void lantern
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i will be playing a game and my screens will go blank and then after a few seconds it turns back on like it was but all the apps are white and i have to restart them, and then when I do that it fully crashes

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I have an i9 10850k with a pny xlr8 rtx 3070 running on an asus prime z490 board w/ 64gb ram@ 3200mhz

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have no clue whats causing it, other than a red CPU light on the mobo

fossil cedar
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If not run occt on memory test for 1 hour

void lantern
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alright I will try that

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I ran a memory test for prolly around an hour and nothing went wrong

fossil cedar
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What mem test?

void lantern
fossil cedar
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Ehh

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Just use occt, tc5 or memtest86

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I ain't wanna download random exe files

void lantern
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i ran it a bunch of times

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like 16 of em

fossil cedar
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Also have no idea how good it is

fossil cedar
void lantern
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thats where i got it from

rich helm
void lantern
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alright did that, its running now

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so you say running it for a whole hour?

fossil cedar
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Yep

void lantern
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a 650w power supply is enough for an i9 10850k and rtx 3070 right?

muted patio
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Should be

fossil cedar
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as long as its not oc'd too much should be okay

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depends on the model of 650w tho

empty acorn
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Hey doods and doodettes and all in between. I got a question; does the ASUS ROG Strix Z590-A support SLI or Crossfire or both?

fossil cedar
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useless

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and sli is only available on the 3090s anyway

empty acorn
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Ok, so what is the multi-gpu solution?

fossil cedar
hallow glen
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why do you want multi-gpu

empty acorn
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Cards are hard to come by and I’m inheriting two Radeon rx 580.

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This is my first build in like 20 years. And I want something to max out Battlefield 6, Squad, and Star Citizen

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I’ve been out of it so long living as a console peasant that I practically know nothing about building anymore.

fossil cedar
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sell the other card for like 350 lol

frank stirrup
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Mine with one and play with one

fossil cedar
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yeah or that

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well unless they are 4gb models meh

lyric thistle
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Y'all got any siblings or friends

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Give a 580

empty acorn
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They are 8gbs

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So what’s a decent card to run in the mid-high tier. I don’t mean max-max out the graphics to the “insane/psycho” category since that’s unrealistic and dumb but I wanna run the very high settings.

earnest olive
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8gb rx 580 easily sells for 450+ now

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keep one and sell one

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use the one you have as a backup while looking for something better

earnest olive
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and fps target

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1080p 144 fps? rtx 3060ti is perfect

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1080p 60 fps? keep your rx 580

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1440p 144 fps? rtx 3070-3080

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4k 144 fps? keep dreaming

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4k 60 fps? rtx 3070-3080

peak osprey
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Ay whats the best build rn for 1000

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I already have a 500 watt power supply

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And ram

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and fans

rich helm
peak osprey
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Thanks

fossil cedar
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And a p360a case

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With vetroo v5, gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt

hallow glen
earnest olive
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3090 isn't that much better than 3080 lol

hallow glen
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ah

little merlin
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Can I get your help here. Please?
I am trying to choose between the 2.

Ryzen 7 5800x
X570 motherboard
120mm liquid cooling
Rtx 3070
16gb 3000mhz ddr4 ram
Wifi ac
1tb nvme
750w psu.

Or

I9 10900k
Z490 motherboard
240mm liquid cooler
Rtx 3080
64gb 2933mhz ram ddr4
Wifi6
2tb nvme 2tb HD’s
750w gold psu

odd abyss
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without knowing prices i choose 2

stoic island
little merlin
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The second one is actually an Aegis RS 10TE-058US

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They haven’t specified which brand

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The first one is 2500 and the second one is 3500

stoic island
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that changes things a lot

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ick

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I hate it's some 120mm aio in the first one, but I'd say first one is a good bit better for price to performance

chrome nest
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Yo vintage does it matter which way you plug these cables in

little merlin
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Is r7 5800x better than i9 10900k though?

chrome nest
stoic island
fossil cedar
stoic island
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and remember, that's a 1000$ difference

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3070 to 3080 is a 500$ upgrade at best

little merlin
stoic island
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what resolution

chrome nest
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Don't play on 4k cause you'll never want to go back from it lol

little merlin
stoic island
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Then a different prebuilt, lemme go find some 3080 prebuilts

fossil cedar
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i would buy the 3070 and put in a gammaxx 400, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 cooler instead of the 120mm rad if you dont mind being taking stuff apart

stoic island
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3500$ is just too crazy imo

fossil cedar
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ohh 1440 ultrawide will need 3080 pretty much

stoic island
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I'll check config on xotic

fossil cedar
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Way more reasonable

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That's cheaper than the 3070 listed

chrome nest
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Man no one wants to tell me if these wires are plugged in right

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😔

stoic island
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but well

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anyways

little merlin
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The person selling me told me that he got the Ryzen from cyberpowerpc

stoic island
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go on cyberpower and make another config then, just buy it directly from cyberpower :P

little merlin
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So anyway apart from price which one would you go for ?

stoic island
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look man, the price is the biggest deciding factor

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I'd take the money and get a better config for the same price as the 3500$ build

little merlin
chrome nest
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😔

stoic island
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cyberpower, ibuypower, redux, xotic, origin, maingear, etc
there's a bunch of prebuilt sellers

stoic island
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pretty damn sure manual tells you pinout btw

muted patio
chrome nest
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Asus prime b560 - plus

chrome nest
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Should the letters be facing up

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Or down?

stoic island
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what

chrome nest
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Like should they be plugged in like this

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Or should the letters go down

muted patio
stoic island
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I don't understand the question

muted patio
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Letters don't matter at all

stoic island
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just

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follow the manual

chrome nest
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So it doesn't matter which way I plug it in

stoic island
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manual says connector plug into header, do it.

muted patio
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Line up plus and minus, that's it

chrome nest
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You know how you can plug a USB only in one way

muted patio
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Ok

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It doesn't matter

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As long as + and - match

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taht's it

stoic island
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yeye

chrome nest
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Okay

stoic island
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remember, this is single pins

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it's symmetrical

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it's 1

chrome nest
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That's what I was trying to ask if it mattered

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Alright thank you

muted patio
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And we said it didn't a few times XD

stoic island
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this is like a 3.5mm jack if you're comparing it to a usb cable

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it doesn't matter

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follow the manual on where to plug it in

muted patio
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The only one where + and - matter is the PLED

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the rest don't matter

chrome nest
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Bro idk how these single pins work

fossil cedar
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Like 3rd page of manual

chrome nest
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I understand

stoic island
chrome nest
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I almost got everything plugged in

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Finally

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This is the most confusing part I feel like

earnest olive
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careful those pins aren't the same on every single mobo

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they are on most but some are different

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best to RTM

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out of the 35 builds i've done one had a different layout for front panel pins

wheat plume
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sheeesh

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of the 2 builds i have done they were the same

earnest olive
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yeah they're almost always the same

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however

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one build i did very recently had this layout instead

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which is very different from the "standard"

wheat plume
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what mobo?

earnest olive
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the board is also from 2013 so that might be why lol

wheat plume
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lol

earnest olive
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rog strix maximus hero vi

wheat plume
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oooh

earnest olive
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intel z87 4th gen

wheat plume
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nice

earnest olive
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got a really good price for it

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once i toss it in a case and give it like a gtx 1060 or something i can make a pretty good profit

little merlin
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A quick update on the pc built.
The person selling it is offering the pc to me for MSRP now.

So sorry to pull the details in back.
CyberpowerPC - 2100$
Ryzen 7 5800x
X570 motherboard
120mm liquid cooling
Rtx 3070
16gb 3000mhz ddr4 ram
Wifi ac
1tb nvme
750w psu.

Or
MSI Aegis RS 10TE-058US - 2900$
I9 10900k
Z490 motherboard
240mm liquid cooler
Rtx 3080
64gb 2933mhz ram ddr4
Wifi6
2tb nvme 2tb HD’s
750w gold psu

earnest olive
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probably can sell it for $800 or so

earnest olive
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two drastically different prices

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64gb is kind of a meme but you could sell that and put more reasonable ram

desert gulch
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Also on that first list

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A 120mm aio

earnest olive
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120mm aio on 5800x is a meme yeah

desert gulch
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You think that's enough for a 5800x?

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XD

earnest olive
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lol 360mm is barely enough for a 5600x

desert gulch
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Yeah

earnest olive
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ryzen 5000 runs unbelievably hot

little merlin
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Does it heat up that high?

desert gulch
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I bet it'll thermal throttle even at stock speeds

chrome nest
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Can't find a place to plug this in it saids sata on it

desert gulch
earnest olive
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that doesn't go into mobo

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that goes into a sata power cable from power supply

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is that from an rgb controller or something

chrome nest
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I think so

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Can it come from a fan hub?

earnest olive
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yeah you are going to find a sata power cable from your power supply

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yeah

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fan hubs typically use sata power

chrome nest
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I think it's for my fan hub

earnest olive
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yes

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plug it into power supply if you are using it

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if you are plugging fans into mobo just leave fan hub unplugged

chrome nest
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Okay

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I'm gonna use the fan hub

little merlin
stoic island
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p sure bleach is joking about 360mm for 5600x, but zen 3 runs very hot

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120mm aio is just kinda trashy either way

plucky furnace
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hello help

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my qestion was what is the best gaeming pc in ur thinking

fossil cedar
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3090, r9 5900x, crosshair hero x570, arctic liquid ii, 32gb ballistix 3600cl16 (OC to 3800 for fclk), td500 mesh , enermax revolution df 850w , sk hynix p31 ssd something like that @plucky furnace

rich helm
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I would do same except full custom loop in a O11 XL with distro plate

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And dark hero mobo

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And 64 gb of ram

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Also i don't like lian li

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Especially o11

rich helm
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Since no res pump combo you have to have sitting around in case

fossil cedar
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Then get 5000d airflow imo

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But trivial diff i guess

clear moat
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Anyone wanting to buy a smart device aka nzxts fan hub? We able to sell stuff here or no

winged lion
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Arctic freezer 2

stoic island
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120mm is just very inefficient

stoic island
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I would expect rando 120mm aios to perform around the same as a 30$ se-224-xt

winged lion
stoic island
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smh

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freezer ii is good tho

winged lion
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if I get a really hot chip it would be what I get

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(Hopefully I won’t)

stoic island
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undervolting always option

fossil cedar
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Ek aio good if you want rgb

clear moat
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@fossil cedar okay my apologies!

covert vapor
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Still waiting on EK to send the 280mm AIO over here

stoic island
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lol

clear moat
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Dead ass I accidentally got one too many

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One came with case

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Got a commander

muted patio
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ya, find it a good home but not here pls

clear moat
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Then got new aio with commander core

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So many fan hubs LOL

stoic island
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nzxt dum thooo

clear moat
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Tru

stoic island
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lavish hazel
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Could use some graphics help

stoic island
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what about it

clear moat
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Aight thanks for being so patient with me lmao

lavish hazel
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I put everything together hit power. Computer comes to life but I got no visual for posting

stoic island
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yay no post debugging time

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Checked power cables?

lavish hazel
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Power cables are all good

stoic island
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What motherboard and CPU? And if possible, can you send the whole parts list?

lavish hazel
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Cpu = i5-6600k
MB = Gig 170X-UD3
Ram = evo forza 16G dual channel
A fresh M.2

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Using on board graphics

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MB is Z170X-UD3

stoic island
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@lavish hazel Any code on the top right of the motherboard?

desert gulch
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Any gpu or no?

lavish hazel
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AE

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No GPU

desert gulch
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Alright

stoic island
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hm

desert gulch
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Monitor is on?

stoic island
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'boot to legacy os'

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battery method

lavish hazel
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I cant get to that. I can't get a signal tl the monitor

fossil cedar
snow wasp
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It’s on ur motherboard

lavish hazel
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So I plugged in a gpu and that worked fine. But I don't want to use a gpu on this build. This should work right?

There is a label on my motherboard that says CLR CMOS. Is that what I'm looking for?

stoic island
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Battery method works more consistently

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but you could do jumper if you want

lavish hazel
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Battery it is then.

little osprey
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jumper is fast way but its little but unsafe bbnohappy

potent portal
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Unsafe how? Jumping the wrong header and shorting the board?

little osprey
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no I mean ... once I killed mobo I think couse I forgot to disconnect cpu power cable uh

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all cables should disconnected before use jumper bbnohappy

potent portal
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Most of the time the procedure for the jumper header is to just have the computer off, with the power supply left on, and touch the pins with metal for a few seconds so it grounds and wipes the cmos memory

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Requiring all the cables to be disconnected seems counter to the purpose of the jumper

little osprey
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yeah thats what mobo manual says lol

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but once I used jumper and mobo never booted again

potent portal
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idk could just be a weird board

little osprey
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it was gigabtye so lol

potent portal
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cringe

little osprey
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btw I bought pcie thuinderbolt card but idk how to install it 🤔

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i mean its pcie but have another weird cable in box

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maybe its for powering but idk where to connect it 🤔

potent portal
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Snap a pic of the end

muted patio
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The other cable goes to the 4 pin thunderbolt port

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If your mobo doesn't have one

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It won't work :/

little osprey
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ok I think found thunderbolt header

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but theres another cable very looks like usb2 header 🤔

muted patio
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TB looks like USB2 with only 4 pins

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what board is it

little osprey
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asus z490P i think lol

muted patio
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OH, same board my wife has with her 10600k

little osprey
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I got it with 10600k too lol

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but upgraded to 10700k

muted patio
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Ah

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This one isn't 4 pins

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Bottom center next to COM

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In between COM and CH_FAN2

little osprey
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why theres not much info about that thunderbolt things on google lol

muted patio
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Because it's mostly a Mac thing TBH

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And Intel is the only one that really supports it

little osprey
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yeah I didnt kn ow its that much hard to connect it lol

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got very good deal on that device and didnt mind its thunderbolt

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anyway yeah I found TB header on mobo but that pcie cards cord dont fit here steveconfused

muted patio
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huh

little osprey
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come on asus its your mobo and your pcie card uh

muted patio
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Yeah but there are different gens of Thunderbolt

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Yours might be for a different generation of motherboard

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It's a thing

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A crappy thing

little osprey
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ok other side of cable fits here \

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lmao im so tired ig lol

muted patio
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There are two other versions

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Looks like there is a USB 2.0 cable

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as well as a TB cable

earnest olive
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jumpers aren't unsafe if you know what you're doing

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i've shorted jumpers with some weird things

little osprey
earnest olive
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ive shorted jumpers with a zipper

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a headphone plug

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a kitchen knife

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a cleaver

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car key

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literally just the nearest metal object works tbh

little osprey
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yeah

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I do it too xd

earnest olive
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heck i even got my mom to turn on a case-less pc using a box cutter knife

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she was in disbelief that you can turn on a computer with a knife

little osprey
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lol power swith jumper is looks like magic for someone dont know it

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and why the heck should i connect that displayport steveconfused

muted patio
little osprey
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I think I just should get mobo with thunderbolt port 🤔

stoic island
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Which can get very expensive

little osprey
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yeah .. cheapest one is 300$ uh

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alright I think I placed it but... theres another displayport cable in box

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on website it says connect it to your mobo but what the heck is that

rich helm
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m27q has usbc input and the built in usb hub will transfer data to that device

ancient wraith
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my cpu is 63c on idle

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is that bad

rich helm
little osprey
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I connected everything but im so tired so I'll mess with drivers and stuff tomorrow . hope it will work 🙃

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or my last chance is buying nobo with thunderbolt port

ancient wraith
jagged ember
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idle doesn't matter that much, load temps matter more

rich helm
ancient wraith
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so if i do a cinebench

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its never been so high

rich helm
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we literally cant help you until you answer the question

ancient wraith
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r5 3600

rich helm
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bruh

jagged ember
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212 should be enough of a cooler for that

rich helm
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212 isnt an amazing cooler but should make it at least not 63c

jagged ember
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check mounting pressure

ancient wraith
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ik usually its lower

rich helm
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probably time to repaste

jagged ember
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or maybe just restart pc

ancient wraith
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i am getting a new case so ill do it then

jagged ember
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check temps after a restart

ancient wraith
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ok

jagged ember
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my gpu was like at 75 degrees under a normal load for some reason one day

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restart fixed it

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same with cpu, too

little osprey
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maybe check temps on bios ? couse maybe some apps using cpu at background 🤔

ancient wraith
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wtf its like going from 50 too 67

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and like m,oving around alot

jagged ember
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task manager

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is something using the gpu?

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also what software are you using to monitor temps

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*cpu

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sorry

ancient wraith
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wow

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82 on load

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yah

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usually it maxes at 60

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on load

ancient wraith
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hw info

jagged ember
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okay nice

ancient wraith
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idk

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ill check seating and reaply tommorow

jagged ember
#

is pbo on?

ancient wraith
#

no

jagged ember
#

yeah then just check mounting pressure and probably reapply paste

ancient wraith
#

wait

#

its at 4 ghz

#

um

jagged ember
#

thats normal

#

boost speed is 4.2 max

ancient wraith
#

i dont want boost

jagged ember
#

no choice lol

muted patio
#

yeah, you do want boost

ancient wraith
#

oh nvm

jagged ember
#

also you do want it yeah

muted patio
#

Boost =/= Overclock

ancient wraith
#

i was thinking of something else

grizzled quest
jagged ember
#

overclock is going beyond boost

ancient wraith
#

ok

#

so i will do those things tommorow

#

if that doesnt work what do i do

jagged ember
#

beyond that idk

earnest olive
#

change 5600x for i5-11400

#

there are better ssds for cheaper

muted patio
earnest olive
#

psu i've never seen before

#

that cpu cooler looks pretty bad for $60 tbh

#

looks about the same heatsink size as vetroo v5 but with less heatpipes

#

and plastic top doesn't help

grizzled quest
#

any recommendations ?

earnest olive
#

vetroo v5 with i5-11400

#

honestly with a 3060 you can go i5-10400 and there will be no difference

#

but 11400f price is low rn

#

saved you about $200

#

vintage i really don't think that dinky little cooler is worth $60

muted patio
#

It's not

#

It doesn't perform bad

earnest olive
#

4 heatpipes and as thin as the vetroo

muted patio
#

But for $60 there are better ones

earnest olive
#

i found an i7-9700K for $175

#

might look to put that in my friend's Z170 mobo

grizzled quest
#

@earnest olive How about if I want to keep the same cpu (Ryzen 5 5600x), motherboard (MSI MAG B550), and gpu (3060 xc)

earnest olive
#

but why

#

why do you want to pay so much more money for the same performance

grizzled quest
#

I have both cpu and gpu

muted patio
#

Then change the cooler, NVME and power supply.

earnest olive
#

^

#

but christ why do people ask for help with parts lists after buying parts

#

i'm gonna go shower have fun vintage

muted patio
grizzled quest
#

I was lucky to get my hands on 3060 xc and cpu is very popular

muted patio
#

Popular doesn't mean it's good.

earnest olive
#

^

#

nzxt h510 is popular

#

corsair vengeance lpx is popular

#

hyper 212 is popular

muted patio
#

It was good until Intel 11th Generation came out and showed competition

earnest olive
#

b450 tomahawk max is popular

#

lol

muted patio
#

Regardless

#

NVME, Mushkin Pilot E

grizzled quest
#

ok I will listen to both of you then

muted patio
#

Power supply, Corsair CX 650 or Segotep GPP 650

#

CPU cooler, Vetroo V5 or Scythe FUma

#

You already have the CPU lol

#

use it, just change the other parts

grizzled quest
#

so is it bad to use the cpu that i have or is it about price difference ?

muted patio
#

Since you already bought it, it's fine

#

if you hadn't already purchased it, the price to performance is low with AMD

#

AMD is now high end, Intel is lower priced performance

grizzled quest
#

ok i see what you mean

#

thank you so much

muted patio
#

Like, the iNtel 10850K was on sale for $300

#

Ryzen 5800x is $449

#

and they're pretty close

#

Performance wise

grizzled quest
#

gotcha

muted patio
#

Next time you make a list, if you already have purchased parts, mark them as purchased in the PCPP list

#

So we know what you have already XD

grizzled quest
#

I am new to this

muted patio
#

It's OK

#

Now you know for next time

jagged ember
#

always a learning experience with pcs

muted patio
#

SO yeah

#

Just change out the drive, power supply and CPU cooler, the rest is fine

grizzled quest
grizzled quest
#

ok gotcha. How about everything else?

earnest olive
#

if you don't already have the mobo

#

that mobo is overpriced

#

ig if you specifically like that mobo it's fine

#

like it's not bad you can just get a cheaper one and still be fine

#

it's also probably worth getting a beefier cooler for a 5600x

#

they run very hot

#

put the money you save on mobo towards better cooler

grizzled quest
#

ok what cooler should i get ?

earnest olive
#

you can save a few bucks if you don't care about rgb on the cooler

#

but that's pretty cheap for one with rgb anyways

#

240mm aio will allow 5600x to max boost

#

you could probably get away with less but it would be louder and/or hotter

grizzled quest
#

THANK YOU SO MUCH 😊

#

cant thank you enough

earnest olive
#

np

#

the cheaper mobo gives you more budget for the cooling so it's worth

#

can maybe remove one fan since the aio has 2 fans

grizzled quest
#

@earnest olive is there a better cooler because that one has 1 negative rating

earnest olive
#

meh i don't care about amazon user reviews

#

i bought one for a cheap resell build

#

it works fine

#

yes pump always runs at 100% but that's not really a problem

#

it's not loud and a lot of people that do have controllable pumps still run them at 100% always lol

#

and they're wrong about the rgb being proprietary

#

the connectors look a bit strange but i was able to connect it to standard 5v 3 pin argb header

#

mounting rad at the top is an option as long as you cable manage it correctly

#

i used it to cool an i7-8700K @ 5.1ghz just fine

#

most user reviews don't know what they're talking about

grizzled quest
#

So if i get this cooler, I will mount it on the top correct?

earnest olive
#

top or front both work

grizzled quest
#

ok I'm a little scared because i dont know how to use this type of cooler? Like how to install it

earnest olive
#

ehh liquid coolers are harder to install but you can find guides on youtube

#

you know that review user doesn't know much bc they are recommending corsair aio to someone looking at budget aios

little osprey
#

Hi I wanted to ask a ok thing for a friend should he build a pc or get a prebuilt

earnest olive
#

depends

#

if he can find a graphics card build a pc

#

if he can't get a prebuilt

muted patio
#

Given the GPU situation, nothing wrong with a prebuilt from the right place

little osprey
#

Can u tell me good parts for a budget of 1400$ cuz I’m not that good at the part stuff

earnest olive
#

yes it's very important to find a good prebuilt because there are a LOT of egregiously terrible prebuilts

little osprey
#

?

earnest olive
#

get a graphics card first if you want a part list

#

it's hard to find them right now

#

for decent prices

cinder field
#

I got the new rams but i see i have only one space to put

#

i can take off the one i have and replace the new 2 rams?

#

Is it easy to put it by myself?

jagged ember
#

Yep

#

Just unlatch the latches on each side

#

It's a downwards and out motion

#

For the latches

#

Ram you pull straight out

#

Replacing means lining up the notch with the one on the slot

cinder field
#

@jagged ember So, i should just turn off my pc and put them and then i don't have to do anything else;

cinder field
#

I end up putting them by myself the ram, should i do something on the Bios?

cinder field
#

@fossil cedar The A-XMP?

fossil cedar
#

Probs but just in case

cinder field
#

Yes, let me send

fossil cedar
#

Can you go into advance mode?

cinder field
#

Where is that?

fossil cedar
#

Try motherboard settings

cinder field
frank stirrup
#

press F2

#

while in bios

cinder field
frank stirrup
#

usually toggles between simple and advanced modes

#

click the overclocking option

#

XMP might be there

#

also a photo of the entire screen would help

#

its F7 for your board

#

press f7

cinder field
frank stirrup
#

select profile 2

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

on the option u are hovering over in the pic

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
#

Nvm it says the speeds of both

fossil cedar
cinder field
#

Ok, I choose the profile 2

#

How I save it;

frank stirrup
#

F12 maybe

cinder field
#

No, it's not F12

fossil cedar
#

Can you press f1 and see what shows up

#

That's usually a help menu and will tell you the save and boot key

cinder field
#

I think I save it

fossil cedar
#

If it boots straight into windows its most likely saved

#

You can check in task manager

cinder field
fossil cedar
#

That's it

cinder field
#

Save changes and reboot;

fossil cedar
#

Yep

jagged ember
#

Or you can just click x

#

It'll prompt if u wanna save or not

#

Also advanced mode turned on using f7

cinder field
#

It's loading to open now

#

But it takes very long

fossil cedar
#

It's okay

#

Has to retrain the memory

cinder field
#

I will be waiting to open

fossil cedar
#

Give it a sec as long as it aint frozen dw

cinder field
#

I'm waiting.

#

Oh, it opened

#

I hope now is going to run better the pc.

minor harbor
# earnest olive https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9tyz7

For the price of $87 swap the G3 for a A650GF with actual functional OPP, as well as swap the p360a for the p300a and p12s to save some money, there’s also zero need for an AIO, a Vetroo v5, Se-224xt, Gammax GTE V2, Gammax 400 V2, or NB1055KB/NB5510CF will be more than fine for half the price furthermore reason why not to get that AIO is because there’s no testing/reputable review on it featuring the 240mm variant, I would also swap out the ssd to something more targeted to the basic consumer(assuming this a gaming pc) like a Mushkin Helix-L, and swap out the ram for a 3200mh cl16 kit instead as for consumer use you won’t notice a difference and will also save $10.

stoic island
#

the 3600mhz ram makes a lot of difference on Ryzen

#

up to 10%, maybe even more on some tasks

#

For the aio, bleach was just doing some wacky things, might be OCing, dunno.

minor harbor
#

Yes, on some tasks this won’t affect the average consumer though

stoic island
#

so

minor harbor
#

Where are you sourcing this from?

stoic island
#

Also, pretty sure the G3 listing is for the 60$ b stock g3 that was on evga's site yesterday, but oh well

#

I'll grab testing

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

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minor harbor
stoic island
#

also, who need opp when you can just throw away ocp >:D

vague idol
#

morning all

stoic island
#

SSD is SSD, mp33 is cheaper, but when there's budget left over, pilot e is neat

#

morning

little osprey
#

inb4 P31

stoic island
#

p31 op

little osprey
#

found a resitsor in my robotics class

#

for senior year we're gna be making power supplies

fossil cedar
#

oh nice

#

just do better than gigabyte and youll be fine

little osprey
#

p gm

little osprey
ebon drift
#

i want to disconnect my rgb how do i do that

little osprey
#

unplug the rgb cable bigbrain

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

diy toaster

fossil cedar
ebon drift
fossil cedar
#

look for it

ebon drift
#

ok

fossil cedar
#

its probs on the back side

little osprey
#

inb4 he doesnt have a hub

minor harbor
minor harbor
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

as in

#

here before he says he doesnt have a hyb

#

and youve sent him on a wild goose chase

fossil cedar
minor harbor
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

vermeer is a lot better for ram Nice

#

for < zen 2 doesnt rly matter much

#

also u could just oc the 3200C16 kit to 3600C16 hm

minor harbor
fossil cedar
shell bobcat
#

Rx 580 compatible with Asus Prime B560M-K ?

fossil cedar
#

yeah

little osprey
shell bobcat
little osprey
#

with gpu's if it fits it is compatible

#

u just gotta make sure you have the right PCI-e cables from ur psu

shell bobcat
#

how would i know if it fits i didn't buy yet

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

the connector is pretty much the same between gpu's

fossil cedar
#

if its from the past like 8 years it will fit

little osprey
shell bobcat
#

Makes sense thanks guys.

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

ram prices r cucking us

#

vulcan used to be 72 Sadge

fossil cedar
#

yeah

#

silicon power is the cheapest 3200 at 79$

stoic island
stoic island
bitter mason
#

The 850w EVGA power supplies I was looking at only have one "peripheral" connection. I need like 4 molex connections (3x thermaltake fan/aRGB controllers & 1x cooling loop pump). The PSUs have 3x SATA connections. I can't use SATA ports for Molex can i?

fossil cedar
bitter mason
#

they're the same voltage?

stoic island
#

Well, they won't come with extra cables that plug into SATA that gives you molex

#

and well

#

who knows

#

@bitter mason a thing with PSUs is that on the PSU side, the pinout is wack

#

as in, there's no standard for the pinout on the PSU side

bitter mason
#

ya it'll be a mission to get more cables cuz they're all proprietary

muted patio
#

Which EVGA PSU in particular?

#

Most come with a string of molex, IE, 4-5 molex on a run of cable

bitter mason
#

Seriously, like every single one of them

#

ya but can a single connection handle that load?

muted patio
#

Ya

bitter mason
#

the pump is 18w alone

muted patio
#

OH ya

#

Also

#

For an 850W PSU

#

I'd recommend the Enermax REvolution DF

#

Most times it's cheaper and higher quality

bitter mason
#

ya?

stoic island
#

I mean

#

18w is not a lot

bitter mason
#

I was being a bit of a brand [word not allowed on this chat I'd assume]

#

ya but plus two riing trio 200mm

muted patio
#

Those fans take hardly any wattage

bitter mason
#

7 120mm riing plus 120s

#

1 140mm riing plus

muted patio
#

SO the Enermax comes with 4 molex connectors

#

confirmed

bitter mason
#

& I saw those had good prices on them

#

it's just messed up cuz they're so much cheaper that it's suspect

muted patio
#

Nah

#

EVGA overcharging

#

😉

#

Seriously though, it's a top tier PSU

bitter mason
#

ya but so is thermaltake, coolermaster, etc.

muted patio
#

Mmmmm

#

Not in the PSU world :/

stoic island
#

let's see

#

12v and a 5v pin on most peripheral connectors

#

prob rated for, what, 12a per pin sounds about right

bitter mason
#

you can get the aRGB Enermax cheaper than like bottom tier thermaltake, etc.

stoic island
#

that's 204 watts max

muted patio
#

Well

stoic island
#

hehe

muted patio
#

aRGB Enermax PSU?

stoic island
#

don't go by brand, go by the model

#

there's crappy Enermax PSUs too, our reccomendation ONLY applies to the revolution d.f.

bitter mason
#

I appreciate this. I was thinking if it's not like almost $200 for the PSU it's low quality

muted patio
#

Nah

bitter mason
#

at the 850w level

muted patio
#

Price has nothing to do with it

#

however, anything other than the Revolution DF we will have to look in to

#

Because they're not all the same

bitter mason
#

I was thinking of going Corsair

#

wth is a super flower?

stoic island
#

that's the OEM

muted patio
#

Superflower makes PSU's for a lot of other brands

stoic island
muted patio
#

so does FSP

#

and CWT

stoic island
#

Corsair gets most of their PSUs from CWT

#

EVGA gets a lot from CWT

#

etc

muted patio
#

And a lot of EVGA PSU aren't that great

stoic island
#

oh yea EVGA is also kinda all over the place with OEMs

bitter mason
#

It's not really about brand loyalty. I just didn't know if I could trust the cheap ones

stoic island
#

price doesn't mean quality

bitter mason
#

I don't care if it's purple & pink, it's under a shroud anyway

muted patio
#

The Enermax REvolution DF is one of the best multi rail power supplies you can get

bitter mason
#

I was also looking at ROG but they're expensive probably for nothing

muted patio
#

They just don't overcharge for it like others do

stoic island
#

Just a scope of all the different OEMs for EVGA PSUs:
BA - Andyson
B - HEC
BT - Superflower
GD - FSP
NEX Classified - ETASIS (no idea who they are)
GS - Seasonic

bitter mason
#

I also liked the Seasonic because it has surge protection built in

stoic island
#

uhhhhh

#

that's any decent PSU

bitter mason
#

oh for real?

muted patio
#

Yes

#

we only recommend power supplies that have all the protections

#

that actually work

stoic island
#

SCP is on most decent PSUs

muted patio
#

Some power supplies have protections but they aren't set properly

bitter mason
#

why is the gold enermax $130 but the platinum is $270?

stoic island
#

Because different units are priced weirdly, and probably out of stock things

muted patio
#

Platinum is just marketing, just get Gold. The power "savings" takes years to overcome the cost difference

stoic island
#

Platimax d.f. is based off CWT CST, while revo d.f. is based off CWT GPU

bitter mason
#

well I'm glad I asked because I was about to waste money for sure

stoic island
#

and yea, platinum doesn't mean much

#

it's what, 1% difference on the efficiency curve

muted patio
#

That's the one

stoic island
#

yea

muted patio
#

👍

bitter mason
#

The only thing I did like about the EVGA is the cables come with like wrapping or whatever that makes them smaller & easier to organize

muted patio
#

I think you'll find that the flat cables organize well also

bitter mason
#

the ribbon type can be a mission to organize but I'll get over it

muted patio
#

My Phanteks has flat cables and it was fairly easy to get them looking good

bitter mason
#

They're hard to angle. I had a 750w Thermaltake for my last build & the ribbons can be a pain

muted patio
stoic island
#

cable management is not important anyways :P

bitter mason
#

ya that looks nice you're right

lyric thistle
#

Spiderweb

stoic island
#

yeees

lyric thistle
#

Only form of cable management that's valid bbnohappy

bitter mason
#

Kind of a mess on mine

stoic island
#

is that the og h500p?

bitter mason
#

Hard to twist

#

H500P Mesh ya

stoic island
#

nice

#

og h500p sucky

#

h500p mesh is neat

bitter mason
#

it came out alright

#

proud of my Pikachu

stoic island
#

neat

bitter mason
#

ya the one with the acrylic front is no good

#

no air flow

#

gamernexus tore it a new one

stoic island
#

yep

bitter mason
#

I'm doing Thermaltake Level 20 RGB this time

earnest olive
#

lol 3200c16 ram for a 5600x

#

also if I've learned anything from having a 5600x

#

there is no such thing as overkill cooling for a 5600x

#

you could give it its own 560mm rad and it would still run hot

woeful sable
#

Is a i5 2400 and gtx 750 ti a good combo?

muted patio
#

No

woeful sable
#

Ight

earnest olive
#

8700K @ 5.1GHz 1.4V LLC1 in prime95 small ffts avx (257W power draw) running at 75C all core

#

it's a perfectly fine 240 aio

#

guy has the budget for it

#

i have a vetroo v5 on a delidded 4770k that throttles

wheat plume
#

Isn’t that thermal throttling tho at 75c

earnest olive
#

vetroo v5 is an incredible cooler for the price but let's not pretend that there's nothing better

#

...no?

#

75c all core is incredible for that kind of workload

wheat plume
#

Oh ok cool

earnest olive
#

thermal throttling is 100c

wheat plume
#

I get scared at 70c on my build

#

I’m also using stock amd cooler

earnest olive
#

my 5600x instantly hits 85-90c in prime95 small ffts avx at only 1.2v with its own 360 rad and 8 fans

wheat plume
#

Hey we have the same CPU

jagged ember
#

but also prime95 is just insane

earnest olive
#

yeah that's what i'm saying

jagged ember
#

which, speaking of

earnest olive
#

if that aio can perform that well in prime95 i don't care about reviews lmao

jagged ember
#

is mixed mode more demanding than small ffts avx?

earnest olive
#

i've seen it with my own eyes

#

no

jagged ember
#

huh

earnest olive
#

small ffts is the most demanding

jagged ember
#

i see

#

thank you

earnest olive
#

pushed a 6 core to 257 watts lmao

jagged ember
#

watch me do the same with my 3600

earnest olive
#

nah

#

i was never able to get a 3600x above 99 watts

jagged ember
#

aw

#

well then at least my gammaxx 400 won't be overwhelmed lmao

earnest olive
#

i'll give you a cookie if you can beat my 3600 air cooled oc

jagged ember
#

lmao i won't, don't worry

earnest olive
jagged ember
#

i just run pbo and set max frequency to 4300 lol

earnest olive
#

when your 3600 is almost at 5ghz

#

😳

#

it wasn't stable or safe but it looks cool

jagged ember
#

sheeesh

#

highest i went is 4.3, probably lmao

earnest olive
#

i'm thinking about buying another one of those "not reputable" aios

#

found a 9700k for cheap just waiting for seller to provide me benchmarks

#

going to mod it into a z170 board i got for free

jagged ember
#

z170??

earnest olive
#

yup

#

you can mod 8th/9th gen cpus into 6th/7th gen boards

jagged ember
#

is that allowed?

earnest olive
#

not particularly difficult either

jagged ember
#

oh

earnest olive
#

all you need is some softwares and some tape

jagged ember
#

tape for what?

earnest olive
#

covering some pins

jagged ember
#

lmao actually?

earnest olive
#

tbf it's a special kind of tape but

#

it's also like $5 on amazon so

#

i don't even need to delid the 9700k it's already soldered

#

got a free delid tool and delidded 8700k + 4770k with it

#

pretty good value

#

dropped $4 on liquid metal

jagged ember
#

heck yeah

#

and here i am just with my NT-H1 lmao

earnest olive
#

that "not reputable" aio has a pretty cool looking block

jagged ember
#

send your results to GN lmao

#

maybe you'll get featured

earnest olive
#

oh i forgot to take a pic

#

sad

jagged ember
#

sadge

earnest olive
#

it's kind of weird

#

the pump is sata powered and the argb connectors look funny

#

but the pump is not loud at 100% and the sata power cable is long enough to not be an issue

#

and the argb connectors still work with standard headers even if they look funny

#

so neither of them bother me

#

cheapest way i can advertise the cheap flip build as liquid cooled without having to be a bad person and put a 120mm

jagged ember
#

what was the 360 AIO called?

earnest olive
#

which one

earnest olive
#

oh it's a 240

jagged ember
#

oh okay

#

that'll actually fit in my case if i get it lol

earnest olive
#

its price increased by 2 bucks

jagged ember
#

noo

#

that's like 5 candy

earnest olive
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haven't decided what case i actually want to use yet

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wonder if i can flip this for 2k after mining apocalypse lol

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there's enough liquid metal left over to do my laptop too

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might upgrade to a 5800x and liquid metal on top

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gonna stain the ihs and my block but oh well

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if i resell my pc later on as a complete unit staining doesn't matter

jagged ember
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that's pretty nice for a 2k build

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even has wifi and custom sleeved cables

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right, and the A80

earnest olive
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bluetooth too lol

jagged ember
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need to add that back to my list of SSD

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true, bluetooth!

earnest olive
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i went liquid metal on top of the ihs too so that copper block is probably already stained

jagged ember
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meh what are the odds they're gonna take the cooler off

rich helm
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Hmm I wonder how much I could sell my pc for

muted patio
earnest olive
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probably around zero

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why is there a random b550 mobo in shuffle