Seems like a waste to me using a 1440p monitor as a secondary display
#building-and-recc-chat
urban trellis
Seems like a waste to me using a 1440p monitor as a secondary display
Yea that's y I was asking incase he acc was gonna use it for soemthing useful
little osprey
Guys any body know to solve this issue
urban trellis
What's the problem
flint sapphire
@junior sky 10/10 mouse mat
junior sky
I KNOW
urban trellis
<@!244897931969298433> 10/10 mouse mat
Faxx lmaooo
little osprey
does anyone know when GPU prices will go down, if not does anyone know a good place to buy PC parts in Europe for a relatively good price.
frank stirrup
does anyone know when GPU prices will go down, if not does anyone know a good pl...
another year
scenic turret
Or more give or take
tight sorrel
yeah. Its not just the miners that are causing this. Lots of factors. The deeper question is: will manufacturers/reatilers ever bring prices down, considering the bank they are making in this situation?
ripe wedge
could be 2 years
little osprey
Thanks for the answers, that definitely gives me an idea for when they will go down.
raven sigil
is rxt 2080 super good for mining?
tight sorrel
is rxt 2080 super good for mining?
no. what you need for mining is a pick axe and a shovel, and when you get good, a Drag Line Excavator
yes, ofc! how could I forget
hangs head in shame
scenic turret
is rxt 2080 super good for mining?
In all honesty around 43-45MH/s at 125W
Or 130W
Depends on the card cooler and design
flint sapphire
potent portal
In all honesty around 43-45MH/s at 125W
That's what my not super 2070 is getting, 45MH at 112W. No way the 2080 super can't beat that.
scenic turret
Oh lol my bad
Might of messed up the name
Oops
It's totally not 1am for me and I'm totally not half awake
frank stirrup
Might of messed up the name
ehhh its fine
trim relic
I’m doing an intel 11th gen build, will I need a bios update for a new h570 board? Just wondering as Ryzen 5000 I had to update bios for 500 series board.
tight sorrel
I’m doing an intel 11th gen build, will I need a bios update for a new h570 boar...
you should check the site for the specific board you want to get. The reason the AMD boards needed updates is because the X570 boards were released with Ryzen 3000 series. I am pretty sure the H570 boards were released specifically for 11th gen and should not need updates
trim relic
you should check the site for the specific board you want to get. The reason the...
Thanks!
frank stirrup
I’m doing an intel 11th gen build, will I need a bios update for a new h570 boar...
no you dont
median grotto
I’m doing an intel 11th gen build, will I need a bios update for a new h570 boar...
if an update is available then just do a flash there is no reason not to
its quick and easy
trim relic
I was just asking as the build is a mini itx, and I don’t think the board I’m choosing has a bios flash feature, along with other boards at the price point and size
tight sorrel
whats the board?
white patio
yo check my list out and let me know if i need to make changes.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7WhDvf
tight sorrel
yo check my list out and let me know if i need to make changes.https://pcpartpic...
get 3600mhz ram, and an SSD
muted patio
And something other than a $600 3900X, 5800x or 5900x. That 3900x is way overpriced, $449 is MSRP
tight sorrel
And something other than a $600 3900X, 5800x or 5900x. That 3900x is way overpr...
didnt see that. yes. thats overpriced
obsidian wigeon
oops
So, what do you guys think of this? Ignore incorrect prices, it's 923 in where I live in atm
A prebuilt ofc, not my choice of hardware
Just made the list for convenience's sake
obsidian wigeon
I'm aware of that, sadly
muted patio
In the current situation it's not bad for $950
obsidian wigeon
It's in thai, but you should be able to see it in picture I suppose
muted patio
That CPU cooler needs replaced asap though XD
muted patio
For a grand it should do 1440p OK, I had a 2060 doing it
obsidian wigeon
mmm
stoic island
it is what it is
obsidian wigeon
I actually don't plan to game, but to mine
muted patio
Oh, to mine
muted patio
$5 a day for a 2060
obsidian wigeon
eth?
muted patio
Right now yes
obsidian wigeon
Mhmm
I'm planning to do eth and betterhash
Nicehash gives me less than betterhash anyway
Might do chia on the 2tb wd blue, idk
And hold onto it
muted patio
whole sonnet
Trying to compare two ASUS laptops for video-editing. Looking for feedback. ASUS ZenBook Pro Duo UX581 and ASUS VivoBook K571.
whole sonnet
Checked out specs, clearly touchpad and 4K, but outside of that wondering if those features are worth the gap in the $ and changes functionality that much.
muted patio
Depending on the price, Zenbook is better. IDK what price you're paying though
Guess you said Newegg......
Yeah, Newegg one is scalped also
Third part seller
rich helm
Check this out on @Newegg: Newt HP OMEN 15.6" FHD IPS Premium Gaming Laptop | AMD Ryzen 7 4800H | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti | Backlit Keyboard | Windows 10 Home https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-0DD38?Item=9SIAEYJD243432&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAEYJD243432-_-05102021 hmm
muted patio
That or perhaps something with a 3060 for rendering https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-fx516pm-gaming-entertainment/p/2WC-000N-03SD5
muted patio
The one I posted is only 1080 p......hmmmm.....
whole sonnet
I struggle so much with HP, but HP Omen, good?
muted patio
None of these laptops are sold and shipped by Newegg.....
Which means the price might be elevated
whole sonnet
I have never purchased tech from Amazon. How sketch is it?
echo vale
Theoretically speaking if i wanted to build a machine just for mining wats a good build example
muted patio
As long as it's sold and shipped by Amazon, it's fine
muted patio
Theoretically speaking if i wanted to build a machine just for mining wats a goo...
Cheapest CPU and motherboard you can get with as many PCI-E slots as you can get. CPU doesn't matter for mining
south jewel
Do u need a case for mining?
muted patio
Nope
south jewel
Alr thx
whole sonnet
@muted patio you are seriously wealth of knowledge! Thank you so much!
muted patio
YW
scarlet parcel
@echo vale building a mining rig is extremely hard right now. You are better off trying to buy used 8gb 480/580 GPU's off of reddit and build a 6-8 gpu rig with those. Its extremely hard to get the new generation GPU's at their retail price.
echo vale
since i already have a 17 8700k would tht work fine?
muted patio
Yes
scarlet parcel
You don't need a case per say, but you will at least need a frame.
echo vale
kk
inner mortar
Yes, prob overkill for mining tho
echo vale
yeah
south jewel
Cheapest CPU and motherboard you can get with as many PCI-E slots as you can get...
He said cheapest cpu is fine, make sure the socket in the MOBO is correct with the cou
Cpu*
muted patio
It is
echo vale
if i manage to get one lol
muted patio
It and the 3070 get the same hash rate
south jewel
It’s 8gb no?
echo vale
ahh kk
muted patio
SOmewhere around 60 MH/s
south jewel
Do u mine?
muted patio
Crank up the memory clock, decrease the core clock, lower power limit or play with the V/F curve
Yes, I mine
scarlet parcel
Yeah, 3060ti and 3070 have about the same. The 3070 can get about 1-2 MH/s better than the 3060ti, but that is really negligible.
Well, I will say that reference 3-fan 3070's can do better than 3060ti's. My 3070 FE sticks right at 61 but my 3070 vision gets 62-63, 62 consistently.
rich helm
Well, I will say that reference 3-fan 3070's can do better than 3060ti's. My 307...
For some reason good 3070 laptops can get like 67 mh/s
urban trellis
Wait what should I use for minig I have a 3060 ti
rich helm
Wait what should I use for minig I have a 3060 ti
Nicehash or Trex miner
urban trellis
Idk that much abt mining
fossil cedar
Then /24 * 10
odd cosmos
someone recommanded it here and it seems pretty good and accurate
rich helm
Idk that much abt mining
Rn payouts are crazy and you can make like 7 bucks in 10 hours
odd cosmos
also dependso on ur electricity costs
fossil cedar
Rn payouts are crazy and you can make like 7 bucks in 10 hours
Yep ether go brrrrr
odd cosmos
Rn payouts are crazy and you can make like 7 bucks in 10 hours
but thats not sustainable in the long term is it?
rich helm
No
odd cosmos
yep
rich helm
If eth keeps going up then payouts should stay up but eth is going to correct and come down sooner or later
trim relic
Ethereum classic is also doing really well
fossil cedar
also dependso on ur electricity costs
You'll still make profit, I've made 5€ in the last 16 hours or so and my elec is 20c/kwh
fossil cedar
Ethereum classic is also doing really well
Ehh i don't trust classic it's had to many 51% attacks
urban trellis
Rn payouts are crazy and you can make like 7 bucks in 10 hours
Sheesh
I live in Canada Ontario electrical bills oveenight r really cheap
fossil cedar
You should just mine whenever you're not gaming/using gpu imo
rich helm
Hash rate is really high lol
trim relic
Exactly
urban trellis
Ok
trim relic
Mine when you’re at work or school and when you’re sleeping
fossil cedar
Why not do all day
rich helm
Profits going up
fossil cedar
Apart from gaming/using gpu
still roostBOT
Jimmy Neutron#4744 has been warned
odd cosmos
id say it should be around 7 cad a day on average
urban trellis
Yea ill check today and I heavily tweaked my pc will that make my hash rate higher
fossil cedar
Yea ill check today and I heavily tweaked my pc will that make my hash rate high...
Only if you tweaked gpu mem up
trim relic
Over clocking also really helps
rich helm
Why not do all day
Yeah when doing homework and stuff on computer I still just let it mine
odd cosmos
how good is ur cooling btw?
urban trellis
Not the best
muted patio
Yea ill check today and I heavily tweaked my pc will that make my hash rate high...
Underclock GPU core, OC VRAM
Lower power limit
urban trellis
My GPU was runnig at 85 c in a benchmark
fossil cedar
how good is ur cooling btw?
Dont need good cooling really, you drop the power limit by a lot, and drop the core until you start using hashrate then put back up
trim relic
When I’m playing low graphics games like rocket league I still make 45 mh/s so I leave it running then, but when I’m playing a game that’s more graphically dependent, then I shut it off
fossil cedar
My GPU was runnig at 85 c in a benchmark
That's not right, change your fans curve
odd cosmos
Dont need good cooling really, you drop the power limit by a lot, and drop the c...
ye, maybe he can take side panel off or smt if thermal throttling is an issue?
trim relic
Yea if I’m heavy mining my 3070 hits 50-60c max
fossil cedar
ye, maybe he can take side panel off or smt if thermal throttling is an issue?
Only needed for 3090s, probs means its not well tuned, my core remains 35-40c when mining
fossil cedar
I'll max out my GPU fans
70% is good for mining
urban trellis
70% is good for mining
Oh ok
odd cosmos
Only needed for 3090s, probs means its not well tuned, my core remains 35-40c wh...
oh alr alr
fossil cedar
Yea if I’m heavy mining my 3070 hits 50-60c max
I'd up your fans a bit that's too hot for core
muted patio
I also have an extra fan blowing on the back of the card to get some air over it
trim relic
Yea
fossil cedar
I don't even
trim relic
I try to keep it quieter as i sleep near my pc
But my case has a lot of fans and airflow
fossil cedar
70% is still plenty quiet for me while i sleep
odd cosmos
I don't even
you think it's better to keep the gpu at a lower temp? (like 40) or does it not matter?
fossil cedar
60c is too hot for core, as mem gets way hotter while mining
trim relic
True
fossil cedar
you think it's better to keep the gpu at a lower temp? (like 40) or does it not ...
Yes because your mem gets hot while mining not really gpu
odd cosmos
ohhh
obsidian wigeon
Mhmm, if I wanna mine on closed front case, do I need to leave front panel off?
odd cosmos
so taking off side panel helps?
obsidian wigeon
Just to give it best airflow
trim relic
It’s not really necessary if you have a lot of fans
rich helm
Mhmm, if I wanna mine on closed front case, do I need to leave front panel off?
Ideally yes
trim relic
But it helps
obsidian wigeon
Mhmm
The case's got 3 fans on the front, 1 for exhaust
Should work well with the front off
trim relic
You should prob make it two and two
fossil cedar
Mhmm, if I wanna mine on closed front case, do I need to leave front panel off?
It helped my temps a bit, i had an nzxt s340 and that helped by like 5 or more degrees
Also helped with noise
fossil cedar
so taking off side panel helps?
Not a huge amount, only if you have a 3090 really
trim relic
Tweak your case fans in bios so it runs faster with cpu temps
odd cosmos
Not a huge amount, only if you have a 3090 really
oh alr
rich helm
Hopefully my 3060tis will come in soon, I’m excited to build mining rig
fossil cedar
The case's got 3 fans on the front, 1 for exhaust
The thing is if it hard panel front the fans don't do 💩 really no air to push in
odd cosmos
im still looking for a 3060ti lol
obsidian wigeon
I should probably turn the rgb off with front panel off
And yeah the front is solid lmao
Tempered glass
fossil cedar
Oof
rich helm
im still looking for a 3060ti lol
I backordered like 2 months ago
obsidian wigeon
Case in question is tt v250 tg argb
odd cosmos
I backordered like 2 months ago
doesn't work now i was too late
obsidian wigeon
It looks stunning, but trash airflow lol
trim relic
Case in question is tt v250 tg argb
What are you going to mine with?
odd cosmos
but the 3060ti FE at best buy in cad is actually not too hard to get
urban trellis
but the 3060ti FE at best buy in cad is actually not too hard to get
Rlly
odd cosmos
yea apparently
obsidian wigeon
cpu overkill but whatever, it's a prebuilt
odd cosmos
not too sure tho
obsidian wigeon
10400f lol
trim relic
I got lucky with a bundle at Newegg
urban trellis
Canada computers had a few 3090s and 3070s when they just got realesed
odd cosmos
more than half went to linus LMFAO
urban trellis
I should have bought 1 lol
trim relic
So I just have a spare 750 watt psu lying around
obsidian wigeon
A retail in town here has a nice prebuilt
urban trellis
more than half went to linus LMFAO
Lmfao
obsidian wigeon
I just need dad to ask em
And go out to get the machine I suppose
Not for free of course
runic rune
Can I just get 2x 3060 TI and have a 3090 for half the price? And run dual GPU?
scenic turret
3060ti doesnt have nv link, not worth it for 2x
frank stirrup
Can I just get 2x 3060 TI and have a 3090 for half the price? And run dual GPU?
3060i doesnt have nv link iirc
also SLI is dead
fossil cedar
Most of the time 2 gpus in crossfire/sli performs worse than a single gpu anyway
fossil cedar
Can I just get 2x 3060 TI and have a 3090 for half the price? And run dual GPU?
Also that's not how it works lol
scenic turret
AMD crossfire is dead as well
still roostBOT
Cancel#0001 has been warned
runic rune
Well thats sucks.
fossil cedar
Ehh not really to my knowledge 2 gpus in sli/crossfire that weren't the top of the line cards never really would be a smart move because more expensive than higher model and similar/not as good perf
Link an nvlink costs like 80$
jagged ember
Sli ded
Crossfire ded too probably
Usually decreases performance for any consumer application compared to a single card
pure bough
@little osprey WOW, those white EVGA cards look AMAZING!😎
little osprey
It's custom painted
clear moat
8
vague oracle
I’m finally getting around to planning out my mini itx build
cold sorrel
NVME screws are evil
I keep trying to get it in the standoff and it either bounces off or I drop it.
How, how do you get it in there?
And since I'm working next to a drive, I can't just go find a magnetic screwdriver I imagine.
rich helm
And since I'm working next to a drive, I can't just go find a magnetic screwdriv...
A magnet that weak shouldn’t really affect I don’t think but idk to be safe I guess not. I always just use a magnetic one
mossy flower
My cpu has glue on it does this mean its fake?
cold sorrel
I swear I need three hands. One to hold down the NVME, another to hold the screw, and another to hold the screwdriver
rich helm
Hold the nvme down, place screw, keep holding down, then screw in
stoic island
that's new
cold sorrel
And I'm still worried I've damaged it from my multiple attempts to install it.
frank stirrup
My cpu has glue on it does this mean its fake?
looks like silicon sealant to me
did you get a second hand?
mossy flower
A second hand cpu?
frank stirrup
And since I'm working next to a drive, I can't just go find a magnetic screwdriv...
Doesnt really matter tbh
magnet tip screwdriver not strong with the force
stoic island
And since I'm working next to a drive, I can't just go find a magnetic screwdriv...
yeye, use magnetic screwdriver tip, won't affect drive.
unless you have some crazy magnet in your screwdriver
frank stirrup
A second hand cpu?
Like did you buy it used from someone or buy from an authorised shop
mossy flower
Used yeah
stoic island
might just be leftover thermal paste someone didn't clean off
mossy flower
Is it normal for dry thermal paste to look like got glue?
frank stirrup
might just be leftover thermal paste someone didn't clean off
Could be a delid and then reseal
stoic island
I mean
there's all kinds of paste so who knows
usually not hot glue looking
maybe delid
but
delid on AMD is wack
frank stirrup
What cpu?
mossy flower
I originally bought a ryzen 5 3600
stoic island
just wait until you have a gpu tbh, looks like 2600 maybe
stoic island
3600x, ye, no igpu
cold sorrel
I did go find a fridge magnet to use for grabbing screws when I drop them on the floor from now on
stoic island
oh hey, that's a later chip
mossy flower
I guess ill have to wait and see until i get my graphics card
cold sorrel
I mean, using a magnet like to grab the screws when I've dropped them won't permanently magnetize the screw or anything?
frank stirrup
I mean, using a magnet like to grab the screws when I've dropped them won't perm...
Considering it takes about a 100+ slippy slides on a neodymium magnet to induce weak magnetism, keeping screws on a magnet wont do a thing
cold sorrel
(Not near the mobo, I'm talking purely using it to get them off the floor. I'm near-sighted and the darn things are tiny
I wish I knew where Mom stowed the magnetic-tipped screwdrivers.
I think my fingers are just too thick to hold this screw in place until I can get the screwdriver there
cold sorrel
I hate my hands right now
The more i fight with this the more tempting the idea of not bothering with this cursed screw and just letting the heatsink hold it in place becomes
Does this look like a standard m2 standoff?
remote pewter
Ya
cold sorrel
This actually an M2 screw or do I have the wrong thing again?
desert gulch
This actually an M2 screw or do I have the wrong thing again?
We'll see if it screws in nicely to ur standoff
frank stirrup
@remote pewter you forgot to put on the ssd heatsync in the build you posted in #build-pics
Pls fix
remote pewter
<@840997539997155362> you forgot to put on the ssd heatsync in the build you pos...
I didn't get one
stoic island
wat
remote pewter
It doesn't need one
frank stirrup
what ssd heatsink you talking about
Look #build-pics
desert gulch
Top slot usually doesn't have a heatsync
remote pewter
Nvme doesn't need heatsink
desert gulch
And it doesn't need one lol
frank stirrup
The mobo usually comes with one
desert gulch
It's a 550 xD
remote pewter
It's a b450 tomhalk
desert gulch
Sn550 is nowhere close to needing one
frank stirrup
Still recommended
desert gulch
Not rly
remote pewter
Not ur 400€ motherboard
frank stirrup
Not ur 400€ motherboard
I dont have a 400€ mobo lol
remote pewter
Ok
cold sorrel
We'll see if it screws in nicely to ur standoff
I've been fighting to get the screw in and just keep failing.
remote pewter
Mine did not come whith heatsink
desert gulch
I've been fighting to get the screw in and just keep failing.
It it won't go in then it's not it
fading acorn
stoic island
ye
fading acorn
got a new mb how do i solve this?
remote pewter
And if it did i may of threw it out
desert gulch
And if it did i may of threw it out
You didn't
remote pewter
I mean
desert gulch
Even my 200 dollar mobo didn't have one on top slot
cold sorrel
So, I'm back to "freaking MSI forgot to include m2 screws in this mobo box"
stoic island
sn550 prob doesn't need it
desert gulch
Any gen 4 would for sure
remote pewter
My vrms don't need one
stoic island
..?
remote pewter
They never get hot
stoic island
we be talking about SSD?
remote pewter
Ok
desert gulch
If it's a higher perf one
cold sorrel
I really wish there was a computer parts store around here so I could just run and get some bleeping screws.
remote pewter
I only go nvme cuz my last ssd broke at the sata connector
stoic island
slap in a 5950x and those VRMs will get hot
remote pewter
I really wish there was a computer parts store around here so I could just run a...
Order online
remote pewter
got a new mb how do i solve this?
Go into bios select boot order
cold sorrel
I really want to get this build done before my returns windows run out if something is busted
remote pewter
I really want to get this build done before my returns windows run out if someth...
Just use tape
Or any screw that's fits
cold sorrel
I'm debating at this point just letting the heatsink hold it down
stoic island
wait
if you have a heatsink
that's more than enough to hold it down
imo
(mobo heatsink)
frank stirrup
sn550 prob doesn't need it
My sn550 heats up quite a bit
remote pewter
I don't care
cold sorrel
Someone told me the other day not to do that because I'd break the drive if I ever take the heatsink off
stoic island
The power draw on it isn't high @frank stirrup
frank stirrup
Even my 200 dollar mobo didn't have one on top slot
Mine doesn’t have bottom slot
stoic island
And most don't have a temp sensor for the controller, which actually matters
most have temp for nand
and you want nand to be warm
remote pewter
Ya
frank stirrup
The power draw on it isn't high <@!499525349109923844>
Ive seen temps up to 70-80 degrees on my 550 without a heatsync
stoic island
@frank stirrup reported by what
remote pewter
Ive seen temps up to 70-80 degrees on my 550 without a heatsync
Those temps are fine
frank stirrup
<@!499525349109923844> reported by what
The wd dashboard app
remote pewter
Ah
still roostBOT
Mr1111#1350 has been warned
stoic island
you're kidding
bot
When moving a few hundred gigabytes of data around, to and from the drive, peak temps reported in at just over 70 degrees Celsius. However, manually measuring with our infrared thermometer, we saw both the NAND package and controller barely hit 61 degrees Celsius and the drive didn’t exhibit any thermal throttling at the time.
When it comes to heat, the WD Blue SN550 does a pretty good job at keeping cool with static air (no airflow) within our 25 degrees Celsius testing environment. WD specifies that the SSD will throttle performance if it surpasses the rated operating temperature of 70 degrees Celsius.
remote pewter
My pc doesn't even know what the smart health of my drives are
stoic island
smh
frank stirrup
Those temps are fine
Not when you dont have it at full utilisation
cold sorrel
What kind of tape would be safe?
remote pewter
Electric
remote pewter
Not when you dont have it at full utilisation
Ok
stoic island
@frank stirrup but anyways I'm assuming it's just measuring nand not controller
which they usually do
frank stirrup
> When it comes to heat, the WD Blue SN550 does a pretty good job at keeping coo...
See my ambient is over 35 degrees
35 is minimum
cold sorrel
That would likely be way too sticky and ruin the drive
stoic island
yeye
and see what they said about what the readouts from the drive compared to what they measured
anyways
frank stirrup
It goes to like 70 degrees with only chrome and a windows install
stoic island
and again
from the drive, peak temps reported in at just over 70 degrees Celsius. However, manually measuring with our infrared thermometer, we saw both the NAND package and controller barely hit 61 degrees Celsius and the drive didn’t exhibit any thermal throttling at the time.
desert gulch
Yeye
stoic island
anyways
frank stirrup
Yeah but thats tested at 25C ambient
stoic island
that's not what I was trying to point out
frank stirrup
My ambient is atleast 10C more
stoic island
I'm talking about software readout being dumb
frank stirrup
But yeah i see ur point
cold sorrel
Okay, I'm sick of this and am just going to use the heatsink to hold the drive down. I'll order m2 screws to fix it properly later and pray the drive doesn't break when I take the heatsink off.
stoic island
why would it break
frank stirrup
Just personally i prefer to use the heatsync since I have it
desert gulch
I'm talking about software readout being dumb
It's like using userbenchmark for comparing stuff lmao
frank stirrup
Okay, I'm sick of this and am just going to use the heatsink to hold the drive d...
Its not gonna break unless you use superglue or something
desert gulch
Its not gonna break unless you use superglue or something
Could if it gets stuck to heatsync good enough
Without being secured
desert gulch
Maybe
Mine was stuck onto my drive pretty good
I actually had to put some force to get it off
fossil cedar
Ehh drives are pretty robust, worse you could do would probs be fling it a bit while taking it off I'd say
fossil cedar
If you don't use m.2 screw and just the heatsink apparently
stoic island
I mean
cold sorrel
So, next step is to put the cooler on. After swapping the mounting brackets for the cooler ones
stoic island
oh well
snow wasp
U got the stand off for the nvme right?
Cuz I almost broke my drive or at least I thought I did while trying to screw it in and it making it a arch 😂
stoic island
you put a standoff on the other end
cold sorrel
I left the standoff there. I just don't have a screw for it. I spent the last two days looking and have officially given up
snow wasp
you put a standoff on the other end
Yea Ik I didn’t even know that I had to put it at first
snow wasp
I left the standoff there. I just don't have a screw for it. I spent the last tw...
Oof but yea it usually comes with the motherboard or just buy some?
cold sorrel
I don't want to wait even more just to get some screws shipped. (No local PC parts places anymore..)
fading acorn
anyone know how to change the pcie slot to 3.0 on a gigabyte vision mb
stoic island
pcie settings in there somewhere
snow wasp
Prob in bios
snow wasp
Check out nvme config?
fading acorn
says no device found
snow wasp
I’m not sure then 😂
fossil cedar
I left the standoff there. I just don't have a screw for it. I spent the last tw...
What mr 1111 means is you can screw a spare case standoff into the m.2 stand off lol
fading acorn
I’m not sure then 😂
so i can change my the channel i want to boot with for pcie and i have 2 4.0 and 1 3.0 should i just connect my vertical bracket into the 3.0 one and set the boot pcie to it
snow wasp
Yea I’m def not the person u wanna ask 😅
olive kraken
So I gotta repaste my cpu, but Idk where the kryonaut went, does noctua paste work good too?
potent portal
Stock paste is even usually good enough. Maybe 2-3 degrees difference.
remote pewter
That's nothing
frank stirrup
anyone know how to change the pcie slot to 3.0 on a gigabyte vision mb
Why tho?
Are you facing some sort of issue
If you arent id leave it on auto
potent portal
There's a bug where if you have the slot set to gen 4 (default) and you use a riser that's only gen 3 the system won't post
frank stirrup
Yeah risers are a thing
potent portal
Gen 4 risers are stupid expensive too
frank stirrup
But if he isnt using a riser or having any issues theres no need to change to pcie 3
Also hey falcie
frank stirrup
Hows ur day been
potent portal
Not bad. Finished my thermal pad mod on my 3090. I don't need to run the fans 100% any more when mining on it lol.
potent portal
How so?
You put less strain on the controller setting it to a lower bandwidth, and mining is usually fine on even 1.1 x2 mode or 2.0 x1
frank stirrup
Not bad. Finished my thermal pad mod on my 3090. I don't need to run the fans 10...
Amazing stuff. Chips on the back do be a pain.
potent portal
I need a heatsink for my back plate lol
frank stirrup
You put less strain on the controller setting it to a lower bandwidth, and minin...
Ahh so you can have more cards in a single system?
potent portal
Exactly
olive kraken
Stock paste is even usually good enough. Maybe 2-3 degrees difference.
My 5600x is at 62c with a 240mm
frank stirrup
How many ssds would it take in raid 0 to hit ram level speeds
potent portal
My 5600x is at 62c with a 240mm
5600X isn't known to run hot, and it's fine past 90
frank stirrup
No need to repaste
potent portal
How many ssds would it take in raid 0 to hit ram level speeds
Depends on the SSDs and the ram
frank stirrup
Depends on the SSDs and the ram
Say 2333 ddr4 and a ton of mushkin pilot e s
potent portal
Only 2333? I'll run some calculations
olive kraken
62 is under load?
Yus
olive kraken
No need to repaste
Oki thx
potent portal
DDR4 at 2333 has a theoretical bandwidth of around 69.5 GB/s
Specifications say pilot e has a theoretical speed of 3.5 GB/s
It would take about 20 drives
frank stirrup
Thats surprisingly not as much as I would have guessed
Thanks a lot
That question has been on the back of my mind for a long time now
potent portal
You'd still need a threadripper or xeon to get the required 80+ pci lanes
And raid isn't a perfect addition of speed increase in practice, there's overhead
frank stirrup
Yeah of course thats why its hypothetical
Real world would be VERY difficult to calculate exactly
potent portal
It would also Theoretically take about 28 drives to match DDR4 3200 speed
granite imp
Anyone else just work in their lap?
stoic island
No
potent portal
Depends what I'm working on, but that's just asking for lost screws
lyric thistle
lost screws just means found screws in the future
can't find them if you don't lose them
granite imp
Depends what I'm working on, but that's just asking for lost screws
I give no second thoughts to dropped screws
potent portal
lost screws just means found screws in the future
But "can't find one" can mean the difference between mounting your cpu with 3 screws or 4 🙃
stoic island
Screws are easy time travel
olive kraken
Any screw can tap if u drill hard enough
olive kraken
If it taps aluminum I'm sure it'll tap mobo
cold sorrel
Okay, now how do I get this thing of thermal paste open?
Never mind, I'm dumb. It was literally just pull the cap off
desert gulch
xD
cold sorrel
Now I'll just have to discern where to attach the fan to the heatsink... I have the ID-Cooling SE-224-XT
granite imp
Who insulates their mobo screws?
lyric thistle
gotta make sure that airflow goes where you want it to
hallow glen
not in the manual?
muted patio
Top is JME or JMEI, bottom is speaker
hallow glen
vintage knows everything
granite imp
not in the manual?
Didn’t come with one
hallow glen
ah ok
gusty abyss
do you know what model the mobo is?
granite imp
Top is JME or JMEI, bottom is speaker
Ahh I didn’t even think they would be seperate. Thank you.
granite imp
do you know what model the mobo is?
Random Chinese mobo for 4th gen intel lmao
granite imp
speaker headers are normal but usually aren't they only like 2-3 pins?
4 pin is the standard for mobo speakers
gusty abyss
ahhh
cold sorrel
okay, why does this cooler only want to screw down on one side?
lyric thistle
stripped
stoic island
You do one screw at a time
gusty abyss
is it on those plastic am4 brackets, sometimes those are just kind of a pain
cold sorrel
I'm dealing with the CPU cooler
granite imp
Sometimes when I get the first in it cause the other 3 to kind of pop up and you have to apply some pressure to get the next one going. Especially if they’re spring loaded
cold sorrel
I had to take the default brackets off and use the cooler's brackets. (And yes I checked to make sure they were the AMD ones)
granite imp
Progress so far. Ram and m.2 drive in tomorrow
cold sorrel
Oh, now it works after I complain
neon nebula
quick question about my reset button. I have everything connected correctly, but when I press my reset switch, my bios pops up saying that a boot error occurred, so I'm wondering if it's a windows or bios problem
remote pewter
quick question about my reset button. I have everything connected correctly, but...
boot
ancient wraith
are asia horse cable extensions good
novel mango
Does anyone reccomend any custom pc canada website? Everyone i see is american
granite imp
quick question about my reset button. I have everything connected correctly, but...
Does it say anything More? What kind of boot error? Or a code
How many drives do you have?
hallow glen
🦗
granite imp
novel mango
Does anyone suggest any PC builder site? Someone mentioned it before on here, but I can't for the life of me remember.
lyric thistle
pcpartpicker
novel mango
one that i can buy it after i build it
ancient wraith
whats the best budget usb or xlr mic
exotic marten
Blue snowball USB is pretty good for 50. I use one now. I want to get a RODE podmic XLR. Gonna need a small USB interface though for best quality
exotic marten
- The USB interface I want is the focusrite Scarlett which is 120
earnest olive
Does anyone suggest any PC builder site? Someone mentioned it before on here, bu...
consider supporting your local hobby builders
if you're looking for a fully custom prebuilt
novel mango
Local hobby builders dont seem to have graphics cards or processors unfortunatly or i would.
they have low end stuff sure.
earnest olive
i stopped doing it due to the graphics card shortage yeah
depends on what you're looking for ig
if you're looking for a 3090 probably not
scenic quiver
oh cool. I got my RMA'd RAM back. They just sent me new ram. Now that I have another 16gb kit it makes me wonder. can i use two separate manufacturer sets of ram in the same rig? Current set is crucial ballistix 3600 cl16. and the ram that was sent back to me new is gskill ripjaws 3600 cl16
earnest olive
you can but it can cause problems with XMP
especially since they use different ICs
ballistix uses micron rev. e and ripjaws uses hynix cjr/djr
scenic quiver
good to know. wont be mixing RAM then, lol
no real benefit for me anyway. all the games I play run fine with 16gb
earnest olive
i had a customer come in with his pc that had 3x8 ram sticks that were all different brands and rated for different speeds
scenic quiver
was just curious
earnest olive
would only run at default ddr4 spec (2133c15)
trying to OC it probably would have been a nightmare
scenic quiver
I can just imagine.
earnest olive
OCing ram is hard enough when it's just one IC
takes me like 3 days to finalize a ram oc
scenic quiver
thats kinda brutal. yikes.
earnest olive
got my $90 ballistix 3600 16-18-18-18-38 kit to 3800 14-12-18-18-34
the pain is worth it
scenic quiver
I dont think ive ever OCd anything other than my old smoked r9 270x card learning to mine many years ago..
earnest olive
i buy hardware that i don't need just to oc it
i found sweet deals on an i7-8700K and Z370 extreme4 recently
gonna delid the 8700K and push it as high as i can for fun
scenic quiver
you sir, are a prophet! i'd have lost my hair and patience quickly.
scenic quiver
i'm more conservative. I like my things to last and I know heat is a limiting factor to longevity with fine electronics.
i'm fighting with my 2060s going over 60c in my closed case. so i keep the case open with a fan aimed at the GPU.
earnest olive
60c is fine
scenic quiver
i know it is. but it idles gameplay at around 80c. I dont like it.
earnest olive
gpus are built to tolerate 90C for 30 years
my OCed 3080 runs at like 60C full load anyways
scenic quiver
thats really not bad though. thats quite good
earnest olive
happens when you mod your 3080 and stick it in a mesh case with 8 fans
scenic quiver
I need a better case to be honest. I have some plain-jane corsair case, and it does not like my atx mobo and AIO cooler. really tight fit. A case that is built around good airflow.
earnest olive
i had a corsair 275r as my first case before i knew anything about pcs
it was amusing watching my gpu drop 8C when i took off the solid front panel
granite imp
Does anyone suggest any PC builder site? Someone mentioned it before on here, bu...
Build redux
earnest olive
now my airflow is so good that taking off the glass increases my temps
cerulean trellis
What cpu should i get to upgrade from my i3 9100f maximum budget for cpu is 200 and 100 for motherboard if needed?I was thinking of the i7 8700 because im not going to play really demanding games and i don't have to buy a new mobol
earnest olive
what mobo do you have now
earnest olive
dealhunting
cerulean trellis
ebay?
earnest olive
facebook marketplace
earnest olive
but yeah if you can find an i7-8700 for like $120 i'd do it, otherwise it might be more worth your money to go i5-11400 + b560 (if you intend to upgrade that rx 570 later on)
you can sell your mobo and cpu as a combo to offset the cost
cerulean trellis
yeah i will upgrade it later on
earnest olive
selling cpu+mobo combo is easier than selling that mobo by itself for sure
cerulean trellis
the i3 9100f aged alot
games got more demanding
is the i7 8770 faster than the ryzen 5 3600?
earnest olive
they should be pretty equal
scenic quiver
just putting it out there. my 2 month old ryzen 5 5600x is a beast. every game ive thrown at it runs like a gem.
earnest olive
8700K will beat the 3600 with a good oc
since your mobo is tied to 2666mhz ram though it'll lose
cerulean trellis
true
earnest olive
i5-10400 beats 3600 when they have the same ram
cerulean trellis
but i save money
earnest olive
but will lose by up to 10% when locked to 2666mhz
uneven oar
Howdy
earnest olive
i7-8700 is pretty similar to i5-10400
cerulean trellis
i mean i would save maybe 100 dollars
earnest olive
yeah it depends on how soon you expect to upgrade gpu
cerulean trellis
along time from now
earnest olive
if you are planning to upgrade gpu soon then moving to a more modern platform might be worth it
otherwise just look for a drop-in
cerulean trellis
ok
earnest olive
a 9400 will do fine with that rx 570
if you can find a good deal
8400 as well
doesn't strictly have to be an 8700
cerulean trellis
fortnite?
earnest olive
I don't play fortnite but I heard that it gets cpu heavy the later the game goes because of structures being built
cerulean trellis
yeah
earnest olive
so it might be worth investing in a better cpu in that case
cerulean trellis
i have to play on performance mode on all low settings just to get 144fps in game but i do have a i3 so.
...
earnest olive
cpu upgrade won't allow you to up the graphics settings
it will just mean less frame drops below 144
cerulean trellis
yes
ik
i dip below 60 while gliding
somthimes
and i will just play on low setting
settings
earnest olive
yeah that's below average market price
and below what newegg sells them for i think lol
hallow glen
k
earnest olive
i dip below 60 while gliding
yeah sounds like cpu upgrade will help
remote pewter
no
cerulean trellis
yeah
remote pewter
the ram doesnt really matter
cerulean trellis
thanks
earnest olive
just look around for cheap i5s/i7s
preferably 8700/9700 to avoid 6c/6t
but 6c/6t is still better than 4c/8t if that's what you can afford
i've seen 8600K for like $95
remote pewter
just get a ryzen 2600
earnest olive
yeah good luck putting a 2600 in lga1151 mobo
remote pewter
for like 100
remote pewter
yeah good luck putting a 2600 in lga1151 mobo
buy a adapter
earnest olive
...
remote pewter
(im joking btw)
steep shoal
can someone help me make a 840 gaming pc build
little osprey
ugh i want a df700 cuz it has so much stuff on it like 4 included fans, preinstalled and wired fans, included fan hub, all that stuff
for literally $75
but like
500dx secksay
also df700 not white 
little osprey
How good is the cryorig a80 280mm aio?
stoic island
little osprey
Thinking of changing my enermax liquimax 3 360mm for that
little osprey
Smallest (most compact) build I've done so far
little osprey
yo where can I buy extra cables
lyric thistle
the extra cable store
little osprey
which
desert gulch
yo where can I buy extra cables
amazon
lyric thistle
why would you play league 
earnest olive
oops wrong channel
nocturne pollen
Anyone active that could help with a question?
lyric thistle
ask away
frank stirrup
Will this PCIe cord be enough to power my 3070v
depends which one
also what psu u got?
nocturne pollen
depends which one
Which one of what?
frank stirrup
Which one of what?
which 3070
frank stirrup
Yep
covert vapor
The Strix is two 8 pins yeah? You should be fine using the one cable, but if I remember correctly, it is recommended you use two of those cables one for each port
frank stirrup
its 2x8 pin
frank stirrup
The Strix is two 8 pins yeah? You should be fine using the one cable, but if I r...
Its 1 cable
split to 2
like all pcie power cables
covert vapor
I know, and in the manuals for psus with those cables it is generally recommend using two of them instead of the one cable, but you'll also be fine with one
covert vapor
If you have two, go ahead and use them, but one is fine
nocturne pollen
Ok thanks!
frank stirrup
But one is also fine?
not really
tight sorrel
But one is also fine?
just use 2, dont use 1
nocturne pollen
just use 2, dont use 1
Will do!
tight sorrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7KIVI_hJg
it can actually affect performance
covert vapor
It is only an extremely minor impact on performance, in actuality it doesn't matter unless you gpu is pulling 400+ watts because the cables can only safely do around 400 watts
restive violet
I have a AX1200i PSU when I boot my system the PSU fan spins but after like 30seconds it stops and shuts down
royal nest
Hello guys again
Need a quick suggestion
I7 10700k has eight cores and 8/16 lanes
- Motherboard: Supports the generation of 10/11 Gigabyte z590
RAM: Xpg rgb 16GB DDR4 3200 hz (up to 3400 mzh)
Graphics Card: 3060 12gb Rtx Gigabyte
Storage: 512GB SSD kingston
1tb hdd wd: hard disk - - Power supply: cooler master-750watt
- The case: cooler master with RGB lighting
- Screen: Samsung Full HD iPS 1ms 144hz
This used pc for only three months price 1350$, is it good deal?
frank stirrup
I7 10700k has eight cores and 8/16 lanes
- Motherboard: Supports the generation...
good deal
lyric thistle
😳
royal nest
@desert gulch
lyric thistle
tubes up
gusty abyss
yeah tubes up is fine, just maybe noisier
main thing is pump shouldn't be highest point of the loop
I've done both up and down on my rig and honestly couldn't tell the difference
gusty abyss
yeah, as long as you mount the rad high as possible it's fine 99% of the time
that video got people doing so much yelling in youtube comments that other youtubers had to talk about it lol
lyric thistle
xd
gusty abyss
nocturne pollen
Something weird is happening
I just replaced the power supply and graphics card, and when I press the power button on the computer, the lights start flashing and a weird beeping noise occurs
Any ideas?
Anyone?
tight sorrel
you not giving us much to go on. weird beeping noise? what does that even mean?
what lights?
nocturne pollen
When I press the power button, the leds start flashing continuously with a ticking type of noise. @tight sorrel
tight sorrel
try putting your old stuff back and then add the new parts in one at a time
nocturne pollen
K
restive violet
Whats this one for?
Can I connect my non RGB fans on this one? 4pins
Can I use this one as well?
jagged ember
those all look like usb ports
so that should be a USB Hub
just for internal USB pins
restive violet
So I cannot put fans on these guys?
lyric thistle
I think cooler master has some decent cheap ones?
jagged ember
honestly just any fan hub
restive violet
So i can use any software also regardless of the fanhub?
jagged ember
I'd just use something like this https://www.thermaltake.com/commander-fp-10-port-hub-for-pwm-fans.html
oh, hang on that's only for PWM fans
are all your fans PWM?
fossil cedar
Dc fans are backwards compatible with pwm btw
fossil cedar
Make sure it's a sata powered one if it's more than like 3 or so fans, some mobos can't deliver the power needed for that many off one header
jagged ember
Coolermaster splits from one fan header tho yeah
it's not sata power
FH10 is sata powered
fun looking sata power
fossil cedar
Nice
jagged ember
its like, sata to 2 pin lol
restive violet
I'd just use something like this https://www.thermaltake.com/commander-fp-10-por...
This fan hub which software do I use?
fossil cedar
Your bios
restive violet
Ohhhh how about the NZXT Grid V3? Bios as well?
fossil cedar
Ehh nzxt usually have proprietary stuff that only works with thei products but you get to use nzxt cam afaik
jagged ember
i've actually never seen that product before lol
so idk
but, nzxt only works with their software
they're like the apple of pc things
restive violet
Z73
jagged ember
okay, so the fans there will still work if plugged into a hub
but the stuff on the screen can only be controlled using NZXT CAM
and i'm going to assume the Grid V3 is controlled using CAM as well
judging by it's description, at least
Using CAM, you can choose a preset fan profile...
restive violet
Ohhhhh
So in short i can control the fans from their software?
These ports what are they for?
jagged ember
no clue what ports those are
tight sorrel
its a USB, to connect to internal USB header
fossil cedar
Probs considering its for control through nzxt cam
tight sorrel
I guess there is no way of knowing. Wish we had some sort of tool wth access to all of mans knowledge... shame...
fossil cedar
Audio connector for a fan hub? Weird
tight sorrel
has a noise detection module. I assume its for tuning for noise levels
thats pretty advanced... but then they use a MOLEX for power.
jagged ember
Why molex
Also noise level just use ur ears
If you don't like the noise then turn down the curve
And balance that with thermal performance
tight sorrel
I would imagine you can set a maximum db and the system will adjust fan speeds automatically to optimise cooling and noise
this is just speculation
restive violet
OMG i tried starting my pc and smoke came out i immediately removed it from power source after noticing the smoke. The smoke came out of the motherboard at the CPU pin area. I hope it didn’t damage it nor the components plugged to my MB.
restive violet
So my PSU is it?
fossil cedar
It's a likely culprit
restive violet
My PSU is from 2016 its a corsair ax1200i
fossil cedar
Hmm
little osprey
Tomorrow ill be starting to build my first ever PC. Any top tips to consider guys?
fossil cedar
My PSU is from 2016 its a corsair ax1200i
Was your psu fine in your old system?
restive violet
Was your psu fine in your old system?
Yah but tried it on this new system im building and its a complete mess
fossil cedar
Tomorrow ill be starting to build my first ever PC. Any top tips to consider guy...
Put motherboard on its box, put cpu in, then ram/m.2 ssd then cooler(if air) then put in case then cooler(if aio(water)) then connect all your cables and lastly your gpu
fossil cedar
Yah but tried it on this new system im building and its a complete mess
¯_(ツ)_/¯ could be mobo but it's hard to tell
little osprey
Put motherboard on its box, put cpu in, then ram/m.2 ssd then cooler(if air) the...
Wow cheers man. Sounds Easy!
fossil cedar
Wow cheers man. Sounds Easy!
Nb 👍
restive violet
Earlier it turned on then after a few sec the PSU fans turns off and then shut downs the whole system. Then tried it again then it emitted smoke
little osprey
The bit after i must say im a bit more worried about when turning it on.
restive violet
Mobo is bnew so idk 😦
little osprey
I have downloaded Windows 10 installer and have a pass key.
fossil cedar
The bit after i must say im a bit more worried about when turning it on.
Dw you should be fine
restive violet
But yah could be PSU
But I will have to test it on my friends old system and see if its working or what
little osprey
I will share the before and after picture here!
fossil cedar
Earlier it turned on then after a few sec the PSU fans turns off and then shut d...
Ehh most likely is psu but could be dodgy board power delivery wise
restive violet
I just hope it didnt damage my mobo or any other components. 😦
fossil cedar
Unless you physically scraped it up with a screw driver or misplaced standoff and if it is the mobo probs wasnt your fault
restive violet
Otherwise im buying a new psu but i checked the area where the smoke came out no signs of burning or what.
fossil cedar
Not in any way at all
wicked frigate
What’s some
fossil cedar
Bout the same price
wicked frigate
What else
urban trellis
5900x has 4 more cores and a better sngle core score
fossil cedar
And less cores
urban trellis
what games r u thinking of playing
if your going to play any competative games like fortnite or csgo then the 10900k is the best
wicked frigate
I was talking about overall
fossil cedar
No matter on the game noone should ever buy the 11900k for it's dumb price
urban trellis
overall 5900x better
wicked frigate
if your going to play any competative games like fortnite or csgo then the 10900...
How
wicked frigate
I see
tight sorrel
Guys is 11900k better than 5900x
camel spit is better than a 11900k
urban trellis
Because intel 10th gen has lower latency than amd and 11th gen intel
wicked frigate
I gues intel sucks
urban trellis
about 1 - 2 ms
wicked frigate
Ok thx guys
urban trellis
and then they have a intel 10th gen for lower latency
wicked frigate
I need a dumb gpu than my build is complete
fossil cedar
I gues intel sucks
Intel is good for budget but not high end atm
wicked frigate
But I can’t find one
wicked frigate
Intel is good for budget but not high end atm
Ok
urban trellis
10900k has almost 3 ms lower latency than a 5800x or 5900x in fortnite
wicked frigate
Dang is that’s bad right
urban trellis
yea
fossil cedar
Latency isn't really a thing cpu wise yes there is some but it's ns not ms
wicked frigate
Rip intel messed up on the cpus lol
wicked frigate
Wait can I run 3600 speed ram on amd
fossil cedar
Ye
wicked frigate
Do I just put them on the mobo and yah
fossil cedar
It's preferred on 5000
wicked frigate
Or do I have to go into bios and do smth
fossil cedar
And enable xmp
wicked frigate
How
fossil cedar
Yeah no harm
wicked frigate
Ok
fossil cedar
Better than no gpu
wicked frigate
I hope there isn’t