building-and-recc-chat

[prisma edge]

okay just got him the GAMEMAX rgb-0750 its the same one in my other build and I love it

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh why

[prisma edge]

I mean is there an issue with that psu? ive had 2 and had no issues

[obsidian wigeon]

it's crap lol

doesn't blow up yet, but it's still crap

like how people says gigabyte psus are bad, cause there's chances of explosion, not gonna literally explode the moment you use em

it's just that the chances are higher than good stuff

[frank stirrup]

gold rated?

[prisma edge]

Yah

[frank stirrup]

is it gp or gm?

@prisma edge

[prisma edge]

It says gm on the psu but is there a difference?

[frank stirrup]

GM is bad

D tier

only for low end igpu systems

[prisma edge]

Then what psu do you guys recommend

[frank stirrup]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

anything thats tier A or B and fits in ur budget

dont go under tier B

[prisma edge]

I dont need 1500w tho

[frank stirrup]

Ok?

Not all of them are 1500

very few are

lmfao

Read the list

[gusty abyss]

people recommend phanteks amp a lot

it's tier a, not especially expensive and seems available

[prisma edge]

I just looked at the top 5 and like all of them are over 1000w and were overkill thats why I said that but ill look at the phanteks

[gusty abyss]

they're broken down by category, the top 5 isn't the "top 5"

I'm not sure exactly what wattage is good for a 5700xt, the 650w is on amazon for 100 bucks and the 550w for 90

[frank stirrup]

650 is needed imo

[prisma edge]

I got the 750w just in case he upgrades to a better cpu and gpu later

[frank stirrup]

Incase he wants to burn down his house you mean?

[prisma edge]

Precisely

[little osprey]

What's the msrp of rtx 3080 suprim

Or suprim x

[frank stirrup]

google

[prisma edge]

I thinks $850

Around there

[little osprey]

I already went there but I cant find it

[little osprey]

Ok thanks

[prisma edge]

Anyways thanks for helping me pick out a psu for him I need to head to bed but once that psu gets here tomorrow ill try again I already ruled out any damage to the gpu as I tested it in my rig and it worked fine so im seriously confused. But uh goodnight!

[frank stirrup]

$1,099.99

suprim isnt listed on MSI official website

suprim X is 1,099.99

[prisma edge]

I was thinking of the suprim x 3070 my b

[frank stirrup]

ok?

in that case you would know that the cost of the 3070 suprim X is 800

and therefore no way the 3080 suprim x is gonna be 850

lmfao

How is that my fault

[fierce gull]

||get a laptop noobs||

[frank stirrup]

@autumn wolf

rule 1

[prisma edge]

You having a rough night? I wasnt trying to troll or be disrespectful just some light banter sorry if that upset ya

Anyway have a good rest of your night... morning? Idk

[little osprey]

3080ti would be more worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's uh

not gonna be 1099 for sure

lmao

considering scalping

[languid nimbus]

[cold sorrel]

Well, I finally did the BIOS flash. Now I was gonna unplug the power cables to start installing parts... but the 24 pin won't come out. (CPU plug did fine.)

I suppose I could just unhook the cable from the PSU instead since its a modular power supply

(Yep, I've decided today is the day to build. Classes are done, so time to reward myself with a shiny and fast new computer)

[fossil cedar]

Just take out the psu end 24 pins are very hard to take out of a mobo lol

[cold sorrel]

Gah, it won't come out of the PSU either. I think the clips are too strong..

[fossil cedar]

The clip on the psu should be easier to take out than the baord in my experience lol

[cold sorrel]

Well, now it's half out

And pulled completely. Now my fingers are stinging a bit. (not in an I got shocked way, just pulling on plastic way)

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that sounds about right lol

[cold sorrel]

suspects she will be fighting to shove it back in later, because it was a bear the first time

[fossil cedar]

24 pin is a pain

[cold sorrel]

okay, CPU is just a matter of matching the triangle on it to the mobo for Ryzen right?

[obsidian wigeon]

Same for Intel, but yeah

[cold sorrel]

(Expect lots of dumb questions as I work my way through this.)

I'm hanging out on Discord through my soon to be retired laptop while I'm working so I can look for help and chatter

And CPU is in. Dear heavens that was a nerve-wracking few seconds while I had it in hand. But it dropped in and the retention arm went down without excessive force, so odds are good I did it right

[obsidian wigeon]

Shouldn't be an issue

It's zero force insertion

[cold sorrel]

Now I think I'll do the NVME, then RAM. Debating I want to attach cooler before I put the mobo in the case.

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd say do ram and cpu first

And hook the mobo up with the psu

Maybe gpu, if there's one

Feels to me is a good way to test if it boots or nah first

[cold sorrel]

CPU is in already.Well, I know the mobo came on when I used the BIOS flashback. (Because I wanted to not have to deal with the USB issues b550 has with 5000 CPUs, I did that first.)

[obsidian wigeon]

The mobo coming on doesn't mean it'll post

So some display output is best

[fossil cedar]

Actually intel you don't need to match, the writing always faces up also i think intel has 3 triangles which is kinda weird

[obsidian wigeon]

The triangle is there for extra guidance

[fossil cedar]

Do nvme first yes

Easiest so you don't have to go around cooler

If it's an aio put mobo in first if it's an air cooler install after nvme before ram imo

[cold sorrel]

It's an air cooler. Couldn't justify the cost of an AIO right now. (Even if I really like the look of them)

[obsidian wigeon]

Then yeah, nvme in first

[fossil cedar]

Nvme then air cooler then ram

Then case gpu should be last thing tbh

It's too bulky to put in while not in case

[cold sorrel]

... now how do I get this NVME out of the package without breaking it? I got the package open, am just struggling to get it out of the little plastic thing it's sitting in

[fossil cedar]

My sn550 was just sandwiched between 2 pieces of plastic and was able to separate not to hard, if you are having trouble on where to open you can always send in a pic

[cold sorrel]

Got it. I don't need to take the sticker off the drive, right? (The label that proclaims it a Pilot-E)

[fossil cedar]

Nope you can leave that

[cold sorrel]

Now I'm trying to figure out how to put it in and find an NVME screw among the mishmash of screws my case came with

[maiden crater]

Can someone help me out. So I got the Phanteks P360A, and I saw in a video the Corsair Dominator Ram Was to tall and was hitting the radiator. Am getting the NZXT X53 AIO and am thinking of getting the Corsair Vengence RGB Pro Ram, how will I know if it fits?

[cold sorrel]

Does the NVME just slide straight into the slot or do I need to insert it at an angle?

[obsidian wigeon]

You need to install it an angle

Make sure you use the screw tho, especially the standoff if the mobo doesn't have one installed

[cold sorrel]

There's a standoff, I'm just looking for a screw.

[fossil cedar]

About a 45° angle

Some mobos have the screw preinstalled

Some have it as just a tiny little screw in a bag from the motherboard

[cold sorrel]

I have a b550 MSI Gaming Edge Wifi

[fossil cedar]

I would recommend not getting nzxt aios or corsair ram they are both meh, for the aio if you want rgb either ek aio or lian li galahad, for ram I'd recommend ballistix, they have both non rgb and rgb ram for 10$ish more

[fossil cedar]

I honestly have no idea what boards it's pre installed, my gigabyte board came with pre installed, my brothers as rock one came with it in a little bag in the motherboards manual

[maiden crater]

Well it's more about how will I know if the radiator fans don't block the Ram

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix never has clearance issues

And is cheaper and better

[maiden crater]

Alright thanks for the help!

[fossil cedar]

Np

[cold sorrel]

The mobo manual says 30 degrees not 45, but I'm terrible at judging angles

[fossil cedar]

30 sounds right tbf

Just at an angle as long as it's lined up the right way should click in easy enough

It should spring back if you push it down if you want to test if it's in right lol

[cold sorrel]

Got it in, now the screw's being dumb. Dropped it twice already

And joy, I lost the screw to secure the NVME heatsink back in place

I might test and see if it just uses a regular NVME screw... I hope it does

And I sent another screw scattering who knows where. I should have known it was going too smoothly...

[little osprey]

should we check P1's
its read/write speeds
P1 after having over 20TB of reads/write data

[cold sorrel]

Oh, now I find the mobo heatsink screw... right where I could have sworn I left it. And the mobo swears I have at least 3 NVME screws in the box.. but I'm not finding 'em

[fossil cedar]

Oof good luck

[frank stirrup]

How do you manage to write more than read?!

[little osprey]

no idea but hey

[frank stirrup]

ehhh

[little osprey]

its a P1
i didnt expect much from it anyways lol

[cold sorrel]

I swear, I can't find the M2 screw this stupid mobo says it should have three of in the box

Yes, I even took the M2 standoff to check and see if the screw was in it. It wasn't

There's nothing left in the mobo box either. I took out everything

[white blaze]

Those M.2 screws are tiny, best of luck

[cold sorrel]

I think MSI just forgot to put all three in there...

And if I use the one that's supposed to hold the NVME heatshield in place, that won't secure down properly

[white blaze]

MSI support page will let you order screw, sent in DM

[cold sorrel]

But that'll take too long and require me to leave this partially assembled on my desk for potentially weeks

[white blaze]

Well I can't magically make it appear 😉 best of luck

[wet knoll]

Can I use LL120's on a radiator?

[white blaze]

Other option is to go to a local computer parts place

[muted patio]

Yes

[wicked frigate]

Guys can u use tubing alcohol for getting rid of thermal paste#

[sharp pelican]

Anyone recommend a good wattage power supply for a EVGA gtx 1060 6gb SSC and a celeron g5905?

[cold sorrel]

.. I really thought I'd get to have this up and running today, but MSI had to screw up and forget to put all the M2 screws in the box.

The first place I thought of locally I just called and they don't have any. There's not a freaking Best Buy anymore and it would have been a hard sell to Mom to drive that far anyway. I don't know if any of the other local repair places would have the screws... I guess I just start dissassembling everything and putting it away since I'm not finishing today

[white blaze]

500W should suffice.

[sharp pelican]

👍

[fossil cedar]

Rubbing alcohol? Yes as long as it's like 70% +

[cold sorrel]

And joy, lost the heatsink screw again.

[fossil cedar]

Oof

Tbh if you have a m.2 heatsink you don't need the individual screw, the heatsink should keep it down

[lament fulcrum]

Thoughts on inwin sirius pure?

[fossil cedar]

Also remember to take the plastic off the heatsink side

[lament fulcrum]

I love the look of them

[stoic island]

Also, you could choose to tape it down or something like that

The screw does nothing other than hold it down

[cold sorrel]

I might do that if I find the heat sink screw again and use it for the m2. I need a break

I'm just hoping I didn't screw up the drive by leaving at an angle in the slot for a bit

[frank stirrup]

They dont just do that...

You just kept losing them from what im reading

[frank stirrup]

It can wiggle and drop

[cold sorrel]

Considering I checked every package of parts in the mobo box and found no extra M2 screws... I'm gonna say they did. (I realized the screws from the case I was trying to use were for SATA SSDs after a bit. I'm an idiot)

[stoic island]

It's a small baggie with a single screw usually

[frank stirrup]

extra and no screws arent the same thing

They give enough for the mobo

[lament fulcrum]

They only give 1 for each m.2 slot

[frank stirrup]

not more

[stoic island]

Sometimes not even

Not too rare to see only 1 screw for Mobo with 2 m.2 slots

[cold sorrel]

It says there should be three in the box. All I'm finding is the one attached to the heatsink for the first NVME slot. No others.

[lament fulcrum]

A lot of times ive seen where they have the m.2 screw already in the thing

[stoic island]

Anyways

[frank stirrup]

what mobo

[cold sorrel]

MSI b550 Gaming Edge Wifi

[stoic island]

Point is, if it's under mobo heatsink, not necessary for screw, if it's not under heatsink, you can just tape it down for now until you get screws

[frank stirrup]

also why do you need 3 if the one you need is already there?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh I've never heard of that

[frank stirrup]

If you move pc around

also theres a big chance it gets lose while putting on the heatsync

[lament fulcrum]

So don't move pc around

[frank stirrup]

and doesnt get read

[fossil cedar]

Would want to be some rough shipping lol

[fossil cedar]

Not if it's laying flat on the mobo box and not in the case vertically

Which is what they doing lol

[desert gulch]

i still would screw it down since that heatsync is usally sticky and i wouldnt want to have a difficult time getting a heatsync off at some point

as it would be trying to break that m.2 since it would want to pull up on it

[cold sorrel]

And according to Amazon, the fastest I could get a package of the darn things shipped would be Wednesday

[desert gulch]

you could just use it without a heatsync

and just tape it down until you get the screw lol

[fossil cedar]

That's fair yeah

[desert gulch]

depends on heatsync but if it did that to my m.2 on my heatsync id prolly break the m.2 when taking heatsync off

if it wasnt screwed in

[cold sorrel]

Just, why couldn't the darn screw have been in the standoff?

[desert gulch]

so you got a standoff?

just no screw?

[cold sorrel]

Exactly. I even took the standoff for a bit to examine it and see if the screw was in it

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[oak kayak]

I have a 5950x , it’s water cooled. And it’s running at 53c . When I’m not under much load. Is there something wrong with it?

[cold sorrel]

Ugh, this is so frustrating that I got shut down cold because of a lack of a screw

[frank stirrup]

idle temps dont matter

what water cooling u using btw

[oak kayak]

Alrighty thanks , I’m using a kraken z73

[cold sorrel]

... unless I just use the heatsink with only the screw on the other side and just use one to hold the drive down.

I'm just nervous to skip using the heatsink altogether because I worry the NVME will get too hot

[fossil cedar]

Unfortunately that's not the best cooler, but only you're under full load temps really matter

Also ryzen 5000 cpus are hot chips

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah

Despite their crazy efficiency

[oak kayak]

Ah gotcha . Thanks ! That’s a shame that the kraken z73 isn’t that great. What would you recommend for a future purchase .

[jagged ember]

Arctic freezer

[obsidian wigeon]

An arctic liquid freezer II

[jagged ember]

120mm or above

[obsidian wigeon]

It's cheap and nice

[cold sorrel]

.. tries something crazy. Hey, the SSD screw will work to hold the heatsink down

[obsidian wigeon]

No RGB mind you

[jagged ember]

Oh no, hang on 240 or above

[obsidian wigeon]

But EK offers RGB

Which one was it, I forgot..

[jagged ember]

240 is 2 fan radiator

[fossil cedar]

240mm or above 120mm will perf around the same as a Ryzen stock cooler

[jagged ember]

That's what I'd do, Talia

[cold sorrel]

So, guess I can use the M2 screw off the heatsink for the drive and just cheat with an SSD screw to hold the heatsink down

[jagged ember]

Really?

[obsidian wigeon]

I think that's how it's designed to work lel

[jagged ember]

An arctic liquid freezer 240 is the same as the stock cooler?

[obsidian wigeon]

No

[jagged ember]

I find that hard to believe

[oak kayak]

Cool, I’ll have to check those coolers out!

[obsidian wigeon]

120 one

240mm and above are the gud ones ofc

[jagged ember]

120 probably tho yeah

[fossil cedar]

Tbh it's probs fine but if you wanted to get one arctic liquid ii or ek aio if you want rgb

[jagged ember]

120 liquid coolers sad

Why they exist

[fossil cedar]

120mm same as stock

[cold sorrel]

If it's dumb but it works, it's not stupid. I might still order a pack of M2 screws to fix it properly later

[obsidian wigeon]

To take your money

[fossil cedar]

Really sff?

[jagged ember]

But then just get low profile air cooler

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik

[jagged ember]

Like the new 55 dollar compact noctua cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

Or stick to stock

[jagged ember]

Or that

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh you can't go stock if you're going i7/r7 or 9

[obsidian wigeon]

Mhmm, makes sense

[sharp pelican]

Any cheap 8gb stick of ddr4 ram? $60 at most.

[frank stirrup]

you already have 8gb and looking to upgrade?

[sharp pelican]

no, just a 8gb stick to get up and running with windows

i forgot to buy it when i purchased my ssd, mobo, and psu

[frank stirrup]

what cpu and gpu?

also single channel bad

[sharp pelican]

im just going to mine with it

[sharp pelican]

Its a 1060 6gb with a celeron g5905

[frank stirrup]

So ur interested in making a loss then

[sharp pelican]

pretty much

i already have my gpu, just waiting on a cpu, mobo, ssd, and psu

[fossil cedar]

Tbf a 1060 6gb still makes around 2.90$/day

[south jewel]

Least I’d do for an aio is 240

[frank stirrup]

What about electricity costs tho

also etherium mining changed recently iirc

[fossil cedar]

Profit of 2.90

[fossil cedar]

Ish

[frank stirrup]

I have a question
I have the 410r cooler by coolermaster
I also have mf120l fans that are extra
Should I slap on a mf120l onto the heatsync instead of the fan that comes with the 410r

[robust lake]

I make around 2 $ with the 1060 6gb after elec

[robust lake]

Its showing now 2.9 cause profits went up

[white blaze]

no

[frank stirrup]

any reason?

[prime rose]

Hi

[fossil cedar]

Okay well even if you minus 10-20$ there's still plenty of profit there

[white blaze]

FAN DIMENSIONS (L X W X H)
92 x 92 x 25 mm / 3.6 x 3.6 x 1 inch

[fossil cedar]

And the per month is more stabile

[white blaze]

410R FAN DIMENSIONS (L X W X H)
92 x 92 x 25 mm / 3.6 x 3.6 x 1 inch

[robust lake]

Yeah i know its not bad im mining with my 2 old ones they are holding up good trying to make them fail in the next 3 months still have warrenty lol

[frank stirrup]

yee the cooler has a 90mm fan on it an the other one is a 120

doesnt really matter tho tbh

[white blaze]

I've never tried a bigger fan on a smaller heatsink, ymmv

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

The only problem would probably be mounting it but wouldn't break or anything

[clever cradle]

hello everyone i was sent here because i have a question new egg can not answer, i have a Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 Motherboard well 2 of them because i thought that was the issue but it turns out to be the cpu and i can not figure out the right one to match this board so im hoping someone here can help me

[white blaze]

CFM specs on the fan with the 410R are better, if you believe them

[obsidian wigeon]

What cpu are you trying to pair it with?

[clever cradle]

i7-6700k lga1151

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

Whelp, I think that doesn't work

[clever cradle]

i know it doesnt i wanna know what new cpu i need to buy

ive tried it on 2 motherboard lol

[obsidian wigeon]

You can buy 9th gen stuff

[clever cradle]

i read it only works with 8th gen

[obsidian wigeon]

Z370 is like 8-9th gen

With bios update it accepts 9th

But 8th gen is also still decent

[frank stirrup]

imma do a big brain

[clever cradle]

how do i update the bios before i get it together to support the 9th?

[frank stirrup]

Imma take the amd stock cooler fan and put it to pul while the 410 does push

on the cooler

[fossil cedar]

You need a 8th or 9th gen cpu for that motherboard also dont think 6th gen is lga 1151

[clever cradle]

i typed whats on the cpu box so i guess it is 1151 and alright

[obsidian wigeon]

The best you can do is..

Get an 8th gen celeron

Use it to update bios, then yeah

[fossil cedar]

Did you pay much for the cpu and can you return it?

[obsidian wigeon]

Get 9th gen, that's all I can think of

[fossil cedar]

Dont think z390 needs a bios update for 9th gen

[clever cradle]

i paid a lot and cant return it was gonna buy another mboard for it i guess after i build these 2 boards i have now

[obsidian wigeon]

He has a Z370

[sharp pelican]

so what about that ram?

[clever cradle]

https://www.newegg.com/core-i7-8th-gen-intel-core-i7-8700k/p/N82E16819117827?item=9SIA12KBBC6953&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-3c+expert-_-processors+-+desktops-_-9SIA12KBBC6953&gclid=CjwKCAjw7diEBhB-EiwAskVi117pMbBEu4j5FIzyN23KGwrWJh-RQcpdu8O7Z5Jn6jW1zHWMM0_2wRoCyi0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

would this work?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh what really? Yikes that's a 6 year old cpu

[fossil cedar]

Get a 9th gen cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

I suggest you try finding em used

[clever cradle]

ive been trying to build this for 4 years

[fossil cedar]

What

[rich helm]

It’s 1151 v1 or something

[clever cradle]

i put it on credit to and it didnt work been spending years of hell to get this running

[rich helm]

And 8-9th gen is v2 maybe idk

[fossil cedar]

I looked on google said fclga 1151

[obsidian wigeon]

nah, v3

[sharp pelican]

@clever cradle if you're getting a 8700k get a 10600k

[obsidian wigeon]

7th gen was v2

[rich helm]

Too many 1151

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

They dont fit on the z370 mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[sharp pelican]

oh, he only has a 370?

[obsidian wigeon]

10600k is literally uh, lga 1200 too

iirc

[clever cradle]

i just want it to power on at this point since i have been paying on it for years

[fossil cedar]

Yes you need a z490/b460 or newer they changed sockets from 9th to 10th gen

[obsidian wigeon]

8700K/9700K used should be around

For hopefully lower than msrp

[sharp pelican]

i know that, didnt know he only had a 1151 mobo

[clever cradle]

will the one i linked not work?

[obsidian wigeon]

It will

It's just expensive lol

[fossil cedar]

Tbh some advice, if you cant build it for years wait and buy then because you'll get better perf for same money or cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

Needs a cooler though, if you don't have one around

[fossil cedar]

Gammaxx 400 if you don't want to oc

[clever cradle]

i was to build it right away then it never happened because of wrong parts and bad diagnostics

i was told by 3 techs it was the mboard

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[clever cradle]

i have 2 of these boards now

[obsidian wigeon]

This sucks

[clever cradle]

yeah 4k for old parts

im in at this point

[fossil cedar]

Omg.......

Idek what to say

[obsidian wigeon]

If it's all you can do.. 8700k it is I suppose

It'll work right away

[clever cradle]

im just gonna get it running and use it on nice hash to get some bitcoin from it to recoup a little

[fossil cedar]

You should be able to find a 9700k or something but foxy said would need bios update so 8700k i guess

But look on ebay for the 8700k

[stoic island]

Eth is where it's at for mining atm by the way

[clever cradle]

yea ill just grab this one its not to bad i can cash out some crypto

yeah i need to rebuild my eth miner next

[fossil cedar]

I think a lot of ppl get confused because nicehash mines eth but you get payed in btc

[stoic island]

prob

[clever cradle]

yea i was doing ethos mining

[fossil cedar]

Unless you have a 980 ti or newer i think you'll just be running a space heater in your room if you do this

[clever cradle]

it still runs but minestart command isnt starting it rn for some reason

[stoic island]

but yea ethash is prob most profitable atm

[clever cradle]

my 1080 makes about 50$ a month in btc at 30k a coin rate

current about 100 a month

[obsidian wigeon]

nicehash mines in anything your config is best suited for

then pays you in btc

[still roost]

DustinNeon#7463 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clever cradle]

and thats a crap dell

[stoic island]

sounds a bit low, dunno

[obsidian wigeon]

i tried mining on my laptop, but 2gb vram killed it in profitability

[fossil cedar]

Btc is like 58k usd atm lol what do you mean? Also mining rates don't stay the same as the math gets harder

[stoic island]

after eth prices rose, should be about 8$ per day for a 1080?

[obsidian wigeon]

0.01 buck per month on cpu mining

[fossil cedar]

I could make a whole 30€ cents profit if i mined on my 3600, but the heat

[robust lake]

You can just convert your btc to eth it doesnt matter

[obsidian wigeon]

it was just an experiment, not torturing my poor laptop

well btc value is high tho

but if you want eth then go ahead

it looks nice anyway

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but the thing is nicehash could mine raven or Dodge or whatever the hell coin and still pays you the equivalent in btc so

[robust lake]

Yeah i know

I mean if you want to have eth

Just convert it

[fossil cedar]

Eth going stonks atm tbh just hit 3.1k€

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[fossil cedar]

Ohhb yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

whelp

forgot i need sleep

1:31 am lolol

[potent portal]

That's what the xeon in my mining computer would make lol

[fossil cedar]

You have a xeon in your mining pc why lol? Have a spare ancient one laying around?

[rich helm]

If you don’t have to spend money I buy a new cpu and mobo then why not use it lol

[potent portal]

Yes actually, it was an old HP workstation with a e5 1650

[near garden]

Should I buy windows off eBay ?

[potent portal]

Sure, just be careful of scams

[rich helm]

Building 3 PCs at once rn

[frank stirrup]

same parts?

[rich helm]

Yes

Assembly line

[frank stirrup]

good stuff

[stoic island]

b460 sad

but decent

[fossil cedar]

Yes ik lol just wondering were they had it from tbh like surely they had worse cpus than a xeon was my mindset that's all lol

[fossil cedar]

You better not be putting the 10600ks on those 👀

[rich helm]

Uhh maybe

[fossil cedar]

Bruh why

[rich helm]

Cause b560 itx wasn’t really in stock ever

When I bought these parts

[fossil cedar]

But you're putting k cpus on b board

Why not just get 10/11400 if not oc ;-;

[rich helm]

Idk not my decision, I did try to say that to my dad

[fossil cedar]

Sad :/

Like 11400s cheaper :(

And zoom more

If not oc

[rich helm]

Yeah

If I do any more builds I’m doing 11400

[fossil cedar]

Good

[blazing aurora]

I got a b460 back when I bought my parts in November

kinda regretting it

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[frozen junco]

That hurts

[desert gulch]

Lol you realize when they bought those parts 11th gen wasnt even out yet right?

[fossil cedar]

i didnt know that ness bought before 11th gen

[desert gulch]

Ye his dad bought a lil before

Prolly a month ish

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair

[desert gulch]

I mean I woulda gone b560 and 10400f still at that point

But whatever, they'll still work ig

[fossil cedar]

It was mainly the oc cpu on non oc mobo that i was like ehh

[desert gulch]

And b460 with no faster than 2666

[frank stirrup]

yeah the K cpus dont make sense on a b board

[frank stirrup]

jdec

you can go higher xmp

iirc

[desert gulch]

Nah

I3 and i5 are locked to 2666

On a b460

[frank stirrup]

what board?

[desert gulch]

I7/i9 can go higher

A b460

[frank stirrup]

thays jdec

[desert gulch]

Nahhhh

It aint

[frank stirrup]

im 99% sure

[desert gulch]

I3 and i5 won't go above 2666 on a b460

[frank stirrup]

Oh wait no you can do that on a b560

[desert gulch]

B550 is am4

We're talking lga 1200 lol

[frank stirrup]

560

typo

[desert gulch]

So yes or no do you still think that's jdec?

[rich helm]

Nah that was a different batch of PCs

[frank stirrup]

what mobo?

[desert gulch]

Bruh

Legit said it 5x

B460

[frank stirrup]

Unlike B460, B560 motherboards have PCIe gen4 support, 11th gen CPU support, and memory overclocking support (with i5, i7, and i9).

the 460 should do 2666 only.

ryzen do be right

with?

you need help?

english?

#rules

rule 13

[fossil cedar]

only b560 and z boards support mem oc

[frank stirrup]

yeah I realised I got a little confused between b460 and b560

[fossil cedar]

fair

[frank stirrup]

@wide sparrow help pls

[wide sparrow]

Heheh

[frank stirrup]

Thank you

guy was wierd

he was also a kid who was saying his parents refuse to buy him a pc

[white blaze]

I wouldn't have either LUL

[frank stirrup]

wouldnt have what?

[desert gulch]

He's taking abt if he was that kids parents

Like he wouldn't buy that kid a pc either

[frank stirrup]

I see

I havent slept in a long dang time

[stoic island]

sleep may be useful

[olive kraken]

Idk if here is the correct place to ask but where can I find the Virtualization setting on the ASUS TUF Bios

So, basically I am getting BSOD whenver I try to start up the emulator and quick google has lead me to believe that it is my virtualization setting being turned off so I turned on some of the features from windows but I still get BSOD so I tried to go to the bios but I cant find it, mobo is tuf gaming b550 plus

[muted patio]

https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1038245/

[olive kraken]

tysm ❤️ it worked

[oak kayak]

My fans are running super hard when I’m running nothing . Is there something wrong with it?

[stable cypress]

Whats a good mobo for 130-150$

And is the Corsair 4000d airflow good

[snow wasp]

the case is good

[stable cypress]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

For what cpu

[fossil cedar]

Td500 mesh is better but if you don't like the look 4000d airflow is good too

[stable cypress]

Ryzen 3600x

[fossil cedar]

Do you already have the cpu?

If not go intel i5 11400 will kick 3600x's ass and is cheaper

With a b560 motherboard

If you already have something like the b550 msi vdh wifi

[stable cypress]

I’ll send you my part picker list

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[stable cypress]

B560 from what brand as rock?

[fossil cedar]

That's fine, the msi one for 140$ is a bit better i think if you want to upgrade in the future/if you want wifi

[stable cypress]

Ok

Are these parts ok

Im trying to save money to buy a good gpu too

I also need some fans to cool the pc which should I get?

[olive kraken]

idk what gpu u want to buy but 700w seems like a lot

also u can get ram @3200hz cl 16 will probably give u less issues than 3600 and also cheaper

[fossil cedar]

Can you just send the list

[fossil cedar]

The case comes with 2 fans you dont need more and that psu is 💩

[stable cypress]

Oh

[fossil cedar]

Not really 650w is recommended for 3070 so

[stable cypress]

Can you just send me build recommendations I clearly dk what I’m doing

I want it to look nice

[fossil cedar]

Can you send your build list link

[stable cypress]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

Is okay lol

[fossil cedar]

3600 will run easily on i5 11400 or ryzen 5th gen

[stable cypress]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

I didn’t send the parts how come?

[fossil cedar]

But yeah 3600cl18 is meh

[fossil cedar]

Grab the link just above the list not in the url bar

[stable cypress]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zhZgfP

Dk the cpu cooler imma use

[fossil cedar]

What's your total budget btw?

[stable cypress]

And I want to buy a gou that’s like 500 if the build ends up at 1,000 without the gpu

1,500 or 1,450

[fossil cedar]

Okay

Do you want a wifi mobo?

@stable cypress

[stable cypress]

Sure

What are the benefits?

[fossil cedar]

Well yes or no?

You get wifi and Bluetooth built in

[stable cypress]

Ok yeah

Will my WiFi signal be stronger as well?

[fossil cedar]

Not stronger than an expansion card wifi card

[stable cypress]

How much is that?

Does it come on the motherboard?

[fossil cedar]

No it's an expansion card

If you get a mobo with wifi it just lets you have WiFi without needing to add in an expansion card with WiFi if you want wifi

[stable cypress]

I want a strong signal so I get a mobo without WiFi?

And get the expansion thing

[fossil cedar]

It's one or the other

And it doesn't improve your signal

[snow wasp]

tbh mobo with wifi is fine.....

[stable cypress]

Then I’ll just get the mobo with WiFi

[fossil cedar]

Okay

Does it need to be atx ?

Or do you mind a matx baked

Board

Autocorrect

[stable cypress]

Irl the difference

Idk*

[fossil cedar]

Size

[stable cypress]

Just something that would preform good and looks good is fine

[lyric thistle]

baked 😎

[stable cypress]

The case is the 4000d airflow btw

[snow wasp]

atx are usually the ones with the most feature set

[fossil cedar]

It's just the size of the mobo

[fossil cedar]

No it's just an extra pcie slot or 2

[stable cypress]

I want an atx

[snow wasp]

also some itx only has 1 m.2 slot and stuff

[stable cypress]

I can’t stand the size of the other two

[fossil cedar]

Why lol

But okay

[stable cypress]

Way to small and ugly

Ik I’m picky

[snow wasp]

atx is like what you would get usually unless u got specific needs like if ur building in a itx case

[fossil cedar]

Well i was just getting an image for atx vs matx and that was first one

[fossil cedar]

Well it's just for the size you can get small good looking boards lol

[stable cypress]

I just want an atx board tbh

[fossil cedar]

Atx or matx tbh

[fossil cedar]

Okay but it's a good bit more

[stable cypress]

That’s fine

[fossil cedar]

Okay

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bqys7X @stable cypress

3060 ti or 3070 if you're lucky and can get a 3070 founders edition

[vagrant olive]

for that price i'd go with the vetroo cooler

https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F2FS7SR

[fossil cedar]

Ehh i prefer the se 224xt has slightly more data in it and it's literally a 5$ diff

[vagrant olive]

true but it is not r g b

[fossil cedar]

So

It's white

[vagrant olive]

rgb=better performance

[snow wasp]

that's true

[fossil cedar]

Tbh the black vetroo looks way nicer but if they wanted rgb I'd go vetroo yes but id cooling bae

[vagrant olive]

id cooling more like. id(ont) cooling

your opinion has been invalidated

[snow wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sign-of-the-cross-praying-hoping-nico-santos-gif-10946409

[stable cypress]

Is sd keys trusted

To buy windows

[fossil cedar]

Never heard of it but think it might be against the rules to talk about sketchy is cd key sites soo

[stable cypress]

I don’t want to spend so much money to buy windows

[vagrant olive]

I would like to apologize for previous statements that may or may not have been made on this account. This account does not belong to anyone by the name of dnger, and they have no affiliation with any content produced by this account.

[fossil cedar]

Don't active it , it's free not too

[vagrant olive]

if you have an old laptop or something with windows 10 you can sometimes transfer the key from that to your pc

thats what i did

[stable cypress]

Ok any difference to have it on or not on

[vagrant olive]

uh not really just you can't do a lot of personalization

[fossil cedar]

Theres a lil watermark and you cant change windows background

[vagrant olive]

pretty much everything is bypass-able except having dark mode, you're stuck with white

[fossil cedar]

But if you do your research you can probs find somewhere

[vagrant olive]

they actually still let you right click images and do set as background

you just cant do it through settings

[fossil cedar]

Really?

[vagrant olive]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[stable cypress]

English?

[vagrant olive]

wdym

[stable cypress]

I don’t get what you mean?

[fossil cedar]

What they said was English?

[stable cypress]

Ik

[fossil cedar]

If Windows isn't activated you can't change background through settings but you can right click and apply that way

[stable cypress]

Does wallpaper engine still work tho

[vagrant olive]

maybe, i dont use it so i wouldnt know

google is a very helpful tool

[fossil cedar]

You can probs find a key somewhere anyway i wouldn't pay that much for Windows tbh

[snow wasp]

i got mine from cd keys cuz Robeytech promoted it

but it's your choice to choose which one you trust xD

[stable cypress]

I don’t wanna get scammed so

[vagrant knot]

best prebuild under 700 usd? or your recommendations

[stable cypress]

Yikes

[fossil cedar]

For gaming? No you can't

[vagrant knot]

yikes

im sure itll be better than my i3 laptop tho

[fossil cedar]

I've seen others use that site so probs fine and robey tech is sponsored by Newegg so probs fine

[fossil cedar]

Tbh you'd have a way better experience on a console

[vagrant knot]

yeah i have a ps4

but im kinda getting bored of it

considering i cant download mods

[stable cypress]

Me to bro

[vagrant knot]

yknow

[stable cypress]

I am bored of 60 FPS bad quality

I want to play Minecraft and other games

[vagrant knot]

i can deal with 60hz, thats all i need

[lyric thistle]

60

[vagrant knot]

i dont really need more than 60

[stable cypress]

I want 144 hz

[vagrant knot]

i know i sound like a freak

but 60hz is all i nedd

[stable cypress]

It will be faster

[lyric thistle]

high refresh monitors are pricey

no thanks

[vagrant knot]

thats kind of why im stay in the 60-70hz range

[stable cypress]

Not that much

[lyric thistle]

75hz are about elbow to elbow with 60hz on price

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-001U-00031 if you're really desperate for a gaming pc, id get that and add another 8gb of ram

Ntb consider market value of 960 XD

[vagrant knot]

this is probably going to be the stupidest question ever, but can i take the added ram out of my laptop (16 gb total, 8 gb each stick) and put it in there

i dont know much about computers ok

[lyric thistle]

no

[fossil cedar]

Nope you can run it fine with the 8gb in it but would see a big perf jump adding an extra 8

It would cost about 40$ to buy another 8gb

[lyric thistle]

there's adapters to take laptop memory and put it into desktop slots but that's not a practical thing to do

[vagrant knot]

yeah 8 is fine but i feel i need another 8 for the games i play (beamng drive, automation, cod4 mw etc.)

[fossil cedar]

Not worth it would mess with speeds and their ram is probs 2133

[vagrant knot]

yeah i saw that on ltt a few weeks ago

[little osprey]

yo

i just bought a prebuilt

but id ont know the brand

[vagrant knot]

pog

[little osprey]

of the memory

[lyric thistle]

is it even the same DDR gen lol

[little osprey]

and motherboard

how exactly do i check

[lyric thistle]

could be DDR3

[fossil cedar]

Yes most games will take about 8gb+ the real performance increase is using 2 sticks ram

[vagrant knot]

the ram in my laptop?

[lyric thistle]

yea

[vagrant knot]

ddr4

[lyric thistle]

ah ok

[fossil cedar]

What brand prebuilt did you get?

[vagrant knot]

dont know what that means tho

[little osprey]

uhhh its just this random german brand

wanted to get one since ill be stuck in germany for 3 more years for uni

its called captiva

[fossil cedar]

Do you have a link for it?

But you should be able to look in and see a brand

[little osprey]

i bought it from amazon

[lyric thistle]

the motherboard usually has a model name printed on the pcb

and the ram usually has a sticker

[vagrant knot]

for my laptop ram for example, it has a crylic brand? i believe thats what it was called

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G8WfrH/team-t-force-vulcan-z-8-gb-1-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd48g3200hc16c01 you could add that into the prebuilt

Btw

Would still work under 700$

[vagrant knot]

yeah

i think my dad is actually looking at some behind my back

i just wanted to know some good cheap ones

[fossil cedar]

That's the only good one under 700$

[vagrant knot]

damn, really

[fossil cedar]

Ye

All the rest have a terrible gt 1030

[vagrant knot]

i have a parts list picked out if you want to have a look

[fossil cedar]

Sure

[vagrant knot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMBbQD

its not exactly 700

but

close enough

[fossil cedar]

You're not getting a 580 for that price lol

They go for 400ish on ebay atm

[vagrant knot]

i havent really dived into those very much

im not super urgent to get a new pc lmao

[fossil cedar]

Gpu shortage pushed pricing of all gpus up

[vagrant knot]

its one of those things that you really want to buy

but you dont know what to do/where to put it

[fossil cedar]

Then you can't really look at parts lists atm

I getcha

But if i was to make a bit better I'd go gammaxx 400, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 cooler, the ssd is overpriced and small, you can get a sn550 for 60$ ish for 500gb

Also ditch the extra p12 and get a p360a instead

[vagrant knot]

and im not trying to be that one guy who wants that super specific thing and that only yknow what im saying

but i dont really need much of an ssd

[fossil cedar]

Still

The ssd you had was meh

[gusty pasture]

anyone know ab out ssds? srry to interrupt

[fossil cedar]

And it's a very little increase

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i know a bit what's up

[vagrant knot]

i can get soem hard drive for random ass files i have and can use the ssd for booting and games

[gusty pasture]

oops

i asked 2 people

my bad

[fossil cedar]

The ssd you had was meh and also it's like 15$ more than the 240gb meh ssd

[gusty pasture]

well they moved on so hi

[fossil cedar]

Okay lol

[gusty pasture]

bro stop

[runic mural]

anythign wrong with this?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCk4TJ

[gusty pasture]

STOP SPAAMING LINK

[runic mural]

sry

[gusty pasture]

jeez

[vagrant knot]

something tells me this is hard cap

[fossil cedar]

So much

[runic mural]

what's wrong??

[fossil cedar]

Dear god do not pay 700$ for a 230$ graphics card

[gusty pasture]

just wait\

[fossil cedar]

3 year old cpu

Outdated cooler

[fossil cedar]

Meh ram

H510 is a bad case

[gusty pasture]

@fossil cedar so i need a cheap ssd. dont care that much bout reliability but needs to be faster then hdd. preferably 120- 500 gb

[fossil cedar]

There's also better psu for cheeper or not more

[gusty pasture]

out of stock

[runic mural]

it is??

[fossil cedar]

Budget?

[runic mural]

what's a good case

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's bad airflow

[runic mural]

what's a better case

[fossil cedar]

P360a for the same price

[runic mural]

k

tgy

[fossil cedar]

Calm down i was typing

[gusty pasture]

this is gonna sound stupid but 0-30. i can go used too

[fossil cedar]

I can fix it for you

[gusty pasture]

PAtokav be overwelmed

[silk timber]

I just got a new motherboard, does anyone have a good video or steps to go about swapping it out. I am going from an a320m-k to a MSI b450 gaming pro Carbon AC. so there is alot of new things and such and I havent upgraded a MB yet. I want to be sure of what all I must do before, during and after

[fossil cedar]

Save an extra 20-30$ and get a 500gb sn550 tbh most of the cost just comes from the ssd being there, 240gb ssds are like 40$

[gusty pasture]

it has to be sata

making a portable pc from old pc

[fossil cedar]

You just take off the cooler, swap the cpu, unscrew the old motherboard and install the new one

[fossil cedar]

If not m.2 port i would check out windshields guide in storage

[gusty pasture]

?

[silk timber]

I was told I have to download a new windows 10 or link it to my microsoft account but I was wondering since its on my m.2 SSD if I could just swap it over and be okay, and I dont know how to link my windows 10 key to my microsoft

[fossil cedar]

Check #storage-devices

[obsidian wigeon]

If you logged in with ms account already, it should be okay

And well, cloning windows can break stuff

[fossil cedar]

Nah you'll be fine it's similar chipset so no reinstall is needed

[obsidian wigeon]

I always do fresh reinstall

Especially moving from hdd to ssd

[silk timber]

thats what I was going to do is go to the website with a USB stick and get a fresh windows 10 if I needed to

[fossil cedar]

I would if it was a platform change but in this case just a better mobo wouldn't bother

[silk timber]

So I should just be able to plug and play?

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[silk timber]

alright, I need to get an antistatic cuff first tho. Should my heat goop be okay if none of it gets removed?

are should I go out and actually buy some

[obsidian wigeon]

No

[fossil cedar]

Replace your thermal paste

[obsidian wigeon]

You need to repaste whenever you take the cooler off

[fossil cedar]

You'll need to clean it with 70% + alcohol too

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't recommend 70% much

I notice it leaves some residue

But doable

[fossil cedar]

Yes ik but if in a pinch

I prefer 90+

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

I use 70% for my laptop

And it gives me a bit of a hard time lol

[silk timber]

should I do performance or high performance past from corsair?

[obsidian wigeon]

meh

Thermal grizzly kryonaut is the best one

Or mx-4 to save some bucks

[silk timber]

alright thanks!

[obsidian wigeon]

gl

[silk timber]

also, another question. the new MB has two spots that a gpu could fit in, what fits in the second and can I use both of the M.2 SSD spots at the same time?

[rugged copper]

random question

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, you can use two m.2 slots at the same time

And you can install the gpu in any pcie slots

[fossil cedar]

Use the top one

[obsidian wigeon]

As long as the gpu can fit with the case

[gusty pasture]

@fossil cedar is this good https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1K7JXCL5LAXTI&dchild=1&keywords=120gb+ssd&qid=1620524725&sprefix=120gb+%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-5

[fossil cedar]

But you can use either

[silk timber]

I know to use the top one, but I am curious what I can use the bottom one for

[rugged copper]

I got a PC with the following specs:
intel i5 650
4 x 2 gb 1066 ddr3
PNY 9800 GTX
120gb SATA III SSD
1tb 7200 rpm 2.5" hdd
650 watt corsair bronze non-modular
nzxt h510
1 singular case fan

what's the worth

[fossil cedar]

That's a dog tier ssd tbh

[gusty pasture]

why?

[fossil cedar]

Look at that part that's the budget drives

[silk timber]

from my knowledge and a quick comparison to my lower end of mid tier pc, its a dog pc

[fossil cedar]

Bad controller and nand afaik

[gusty pasture]

but those are all over 50$ casd

[runic mural]

what does this mean?

[gusty pasture]

means your mb doesnt support type c

wait nvrmind

means you ned an adapeter

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[fossil cedar]

The motherboard you choose doesn't have a usb type c connecter on it to connect to the case

[obsidian wigeon]

Needs an adapter to use the case's front type c connector

[fossil cedar]

You would need an adaptor but then the type a port wouldn't work lol

[runic mural]

if i don't plan on using type c is that ok?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah

[runic mural]

k

[fossil cedar]

If you want to send in your list tho i can help you with it

[runic mural]

k

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QfzbYg

its canadian

[fossil cedar]

Okay so, the id cooling se 224xt is supposed to be 30$ usd btw so what's way to much for it lemme rework a bit

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zTkCQD

[runic mural]

tysm

[fossil cedar]

Nb

Im not too familiar with what the msrp of the 3070 is in ca

[runic mural]

i thought

b560 boards

didn't have this problem

[fossil cedar]

But basically add about 250 cad to the msrp of the 3070 to get how mufh you'll probs have to pay

[fossil cedar]

It's just the usb type c port not working

[runic mural]

ohhh ok

[stoic island]

It's not a huge issue

[fossil cedar]

It's just the specific mobo not the chipset

[stoic island]

it's just usb standards being weird

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

Greetings mr1111

[stoic island]

@runic mural What it means, is the motherboard doesn't have the specific USB header on the board, in this case, usb 3.2 gen 1 header

hey there

[runic mural]

thx

[stoic island]

The motherboard likely still has usb 3.0 headers, and usb 2.0 headers, just not usb 3.2 gen 1 headers.

[fossil cedar]

Yep that's just a cheap mobo thing tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

3.2 gen 1..

Isn't it literally 3.0?

Damn usb naming scheme is confusing as hell

[fossil cedar]

They messed with the USB naming about 1.5 years ago usb3.2 gen 1 is usb c iirc

[stoic island]

iirc 3.2 is 19 pin, and 3.0 is 20 pin, or something like that (header)

[obsidian wigeon]

It can be non c too, afaik

[stoic island]

ye

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh, huh

[fossil cedar]

Who knows tbh usb naming is a mess

[obsidian wigeon]

ye lol

My phone has 2.0 with c

Not like it matters anyway

The cases I use the bandwidth is only for flashing custom roms

[stoic island]

there

weird headers

[obsidian wigeon]

Mhmm

My usb stick supports 3.1

But also works with 3.0 ports

[little osprey]

Anyone know what kind of M2 key this is?

Also, no it's not burned, just lighting

[lyric thistle]

not m.2

mini pcie

short mini pcie

there's long ones too

[little osprey]

It was in a m2 slot though

It's from a laptop

It's from the top slot

Bottom is the mSATA port

[lyric thistle]

mini pcie

msata is also on mini pcie

at least hardware wise

[little osprey]

I can fit a nvme in there though 🤔

[lyric thistle]

if you want to break it

[lyric thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_Mini_Card

[little osprey]

Trying to see if this would still work

[little osprey]

Need a new one

[maiden sequoia]

case - Fractal Design Meshify C + 2 case fans Noctua NF-A14
PSU - EVGA Supernova 850 G5
PSU cooler - Noctua NH-D15
SSD - Sabrent 1.5 TB Rocket NVMe(gen 3)
HDD - 1 TB
Mobo - rog strix b550-f
CPU - ryzen 5800x
GPU - 1080 (3080/3080ti in future)
DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz 32gb

Can you guys tell me if this is a good setup? Building new PC first time in 5 years.

[desert gulch]

Yeah it's pretty good

[maiden sequoia]

just want to know if everything is fine together in this setup

[desert gulch]

Id maybe go higher wattage if you want more future expansion

[maiden sequoia]

3080/3080ti Do you think more then 850>

?

[desert gulch]

And id prolly go for a 2tb ssd

So you can just have one drive

I mean, it'll work with a 5800x and 3080 fine with an 850

[maiden sequoia]

already got 1 tb, and ordering 1 more

[desert gulch]

Idk power draw stats for 3080ti rn, haven't seen anything on it

Ohhh alright cool

[maiden sequoia]

~ 340W

[little osprey]

Maybe look for a gen 4 nvme for your OS maybe?

[maiden sequoia]

i don't need gen 4

don't see a point in it

[little osprey]

Instant boot?

Maybe if your playing simulators put them on one for faster load times

[maiden sequoia]

there is not a big difference

[robust lake]

No need gen 4 for normal use

[wet knoll]

What are the differences between Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB and Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB SL? (Except the height)

[little osprey]

None

[gusty abyss]

probably just the height, assuming they both have the same xmp ratings available

might have different memory dies inside but that's only relevant if you're manually overclocking the ram

[wet knoll]

Alright

[stoic island]

No, it can actually be worse for boot time, hell, every pcie 4.0 drive I know from rocket 4 plus to sn850 all lose to p31 in load time.

[gusty abyss]

is there a specific stat/stats that contribute to boot time or is it sort of a lot of things

besides software

[stoic island]

Afaik low queue depth random reads

[prisma obsidian]

anyone can tell me the major difference between gigabyte b450m DS3H and gigabyte b450m DS3H V@

v2*

only thing i can see is that the v2 version has higher ram slots by double, but the price of the NON v2 is higher by almost double.

[stoic island]

@prisma obsidian to start off, what places you in the situation to buy a b450 ds3h?

It's just not a great board for not a great chipset right now

But to answer the question, v2 has a slightly worse VRM layout for soc, 4+2 instead of 4+3, same stages, but also has better ram support (v2 supports 128gb max, 32gb max per slot, org supports 64gb max, 16gb max per slot), and that's all I can see.

[prisma obsidian]

literally cuz i found the board for 50$ cad

i found the non v2

[stoic island]

Meh, if you can trust the seller, do your thing.

[prisma obsidian]

so you wouldnt recommend it. even at that price.

[frank stirrup]

Its not a great board

Itll get the job done upto a ryzen 5

Don’t recommend going above that

[stoic island]

It's a cheapo board

If you're in a very cheapo build situation, cheapo board will work

Just don't plan on a 3900x, that kind of thing.

[native niche]

i have a problem i got new rgb fans mind you there cheap ones and the hub that comes with the plug is for a 15 pin sata i only have the 6 pins i belive im on the asus prime a320mk

[potent portal]

Sata is for power on those hubs, it connects to your power supply

[native niche]

im so dumb thank you so much

[little osprey]

But isn't gen 4 twice as fast?

How are they slower?

[frank stirrup]

Interface speed does not equal drive speed

[little osprey]

Huh

Also, I fudged up my keyboard

[frank stirrup]

Its like plugging a usb 1 drive into a usb 3.2 port and wondering why slow

The port is fast

The drive thats connected to the port isnt

[little osprey]

Broke a ribbon

[prisma edge]

hello back again I am still having issues getting this computer to boot it wont display anything on my monitor and im really lost. Specs are: i5 10400, Rx 5700xt Red Devil, MSI Z490 gaming edge wifi, Hyper 212 cooler (for now), Phanteks AMP 750W, Trident Z 16gb 3200

[little osprey]

Which display port you using?

[prisma edge]

gpu ill switch to mobo and try again forgot about that

[little osprey]

Mobo might not work as that's for integrated graphics

[prisma edge]

okay should I still try?

[little osprey]

Does your cpu come with integrated graphics?

[prisma edge]

im not sure does the i5 10400 have integrated graphics? ill google real quick

[little osprey]

Depends on the specific model

[lyric thistle]

anything with F doesn't

10400 has it

[prisma edge]

it looks like it does based off of a google search

okay ill give it a try

[little osprey]

If that works, might be your gpu

[prisma edge]

still nothing

[little osprey]

Motherboard?

Idk tbh

[lyric thistle]

10400F

[little osprey]

It's either motherboard or cpu

Do you have a spare cpu?

[lyric thistle]

F SKU means no igp

[prisma edge]

I dont but I can pull mine out of my rig and give it a shot

[little osprey]

Was asking if it could be mobo

[prisma edge]

its not the F

[little osprey]

I'd try another cpu

[lyric thistle]

isn't it Q chipsets that don't have igp support

[little osprey]

🤷‍♂️

[prisma edge]

gonna swap real quick

[little osprey]

Idk Intel 😅😅

I've only ever owned 3 Intel chips and 2 ryzens

Correction, 4 Intel chips

[lyric thistle]

looks like you know intel then

[prisma edge]

Haha

[little osprey]

One was a laptop hand me down, one was free, other was cheap upgrade for free, and the other was one for my first laptop when I knew nothing about computers.

[lyric thistle]

I remember Q being a chipset that doesn't support igp displays, but I constantly see Q boards with igp ports so

[little osprey]

Ryzen was my first custom desktop, second was the upgrade for that

[lyric thistle]

if a mobo has video ports it's safe to say it supports video output

doesn't rule out problems ofc

[little osprey]

Lol

But yeah, if second cpu don't fix it, I'm gonna bet its either the RAM or motherboard

[lyric thistle]

looks like it's C chipsets

except for the highest C

I want to get an H97 board

[little osprey]

My intels are a pentium g5420, i3-8th gen(forget specific model) and a i7-3rd gen(forget specific model)