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ahh
There are good and bad bronze and gold PSU's
Protections, OCP, OTP, voltage regulation, etc
if you want a cheat sheet, pick Tier B or Tier A from this list https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.7 Last Update: 28-03-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or generally not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue color in tier ...
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One last question
For the gpu replacement of thermal pads. How many packs of thermal pads do I need?
Depends on the GPU TBH and what has pads and what doesn't
nvm
Look for a teardown
I saw on reddit guy replaced it with 1mm on the face and 3mm on the back
But I just need to know how many packs to buy
Ah got you
lmao bro i do not understand
um is there like a reccomendation
One thing I am super excited for is to build my pccc
I am giving myself til August to get it done
I still dunno what monitor to pick doe. Like I found one I like but idk if I should get it
What resolution
Idk what prices are like in Canada but segotep 650w gold on Amazon, phanteks amp 650w
alr ty
It's a pretty good monitor, I saw good reviews and someone ik owns one and really likes it
lmao nice keyboard
for Canada
ty
Check RTings
It's for the time being, cheap and easy rnnn
Rtings?
Ah okay
Don't trust user reviews either
Most of them have no idea what they're talking about XD
For the one I am looking at, there is no reviews on it. At least from the website itself. I'm sure if I found it on Amazon or something there will be reviews @muted patio
Monitor is good, I have the same one
How so?
Yay
User reviews are "It works, I like it"
There's no comparison for backlight bleed, screen tearing, etc
I'd honestly go ask in #old-monitors-and-tv
What are my options for making my power cables more manageable right know i have sleaved cables but they have electrical tape or something simular at the end by the connector making them stiff.
My case is an o11 dynamic i want to bend the cables so they get tucked into the back area but can't bend them to get behind the board until they are sticking out quite a bit.
"it doesn't work with my 1999 dell, 1 star"
Or, I made a mistake, it's the product's fault
how to I make this build cheaper. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNTydD
cooler comes with paste
extra fans aren't really a need, it's quite nice to have with 4000d but you can get away without it
thats only 8 dollars
saving money comes one step at a time
You can step down to a phanteks amp 750w for 110$
ok
and you may choose to scale down the estimate for gpu pricing
fine
not sure the prices in the us, but that ram should be cheaper
ram prices are up i think
meh, not much cheaper
used to be 70 dollars
ok yea ig so
and imo ballistix is worth the 8$ over the other ones since tuning reve is op
and b560 allows you to do so
but if you have to, there's a xpg kit for 8$ cheaper for 3000c16
otherwise, it's fine
wait nvm I'm blind grab this kit @hallow glen
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jbyqqs/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4r
yes good idea
idk if its good but there is a cheaper asrock verision of the B560 mob
LMFAO
oh lol, a lot of budget builds ig
@odd cosmos ez
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DRQ2M18
does this actually mean that this is coming soon
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
who the fudge is buying that kinda ram
lmao
5100 ram is actually slower bc of bad timing
yeah i saw it on linus small good pc build
What are you comparing it to
ig there are those extreme people out there lol
Check out Storyblocks at https://www.videoblocks.com/LinusTechTips
The Winter One looks like it could be the best small form factor case on the market... and it better be given the price.
Check out the Winter One case at https://lmg.gg/n8Of2
Buy a small form factor PC case (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/LfBF3o
Purchases made through some store...
but why r they so freaking expensive?
Too lazy to look at linus
that time stamp
I'm guessing you're extrapolating his info too much
Yes 3200c14 outperforms 3600c16
he says that
Ick, I'll watch it when I have time
But 5000c19 will slap the hell out of any reasonably priced kits at xmp
wait isn't cl16 better than c14?
i dont really get it lol
What
no that is the latency
Lower timing is better
Scaling on some random bench I found for example
Yes the manually toned 3000mhz sticks do very well, but the manually tuned 3800mhz sticks do better
does this stuff have any practical differences
Yes
it does?
like for example, how much better is 3200 vs 3600 both cl16
Depends on Intel or Ryzen, up to 10% gains in select games on Ryzen just because IF
so im pretty sure this is my build (very little change from now), thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skysQD
So you currently own the build?
the name of that cooler lmao
Dr4 is interesting but eh
planning on gathering the parts, so far i own the mobo and an SSD that i didnt add there
nope got it 4 months ago in a rush
fair, do you have any suggestions? im willing to spend about another 250, i have a price limit of roughly 2000
My reasoning is a 10700k with a z490 board would perform basically the same, except the CPU is cheaper and the chipset has more upgradability (up to 10900k max)
fair point, but i dont like how hot 10th gen gets
Well, 9900k is also very hot
At stock, 9900k pulls more power than 10700k, although 10700k OCs a bit higher all core and pulls a bit more
10th gen also filled the gap between die and ihs iirc
(better thermal conductivity)
so uh i might actually be able to do a 10700k
Just depends on how annoying it is to swap z390 board for z490
9900k isn't bad, just sub optimal
Too expensive for what it is
There needs to be a really good specific reason for any motherboard above ~200$ imo
any ideas for a full ATX?
Add a separate pcie wifi chip if you need wifi, like this
https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-ax3000-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-00075
Eh
220$ isn't great but it's not too terrible
Like z590 boards will be available for those kinda prices
This for example
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144391
hey! i just got that exact same one, do you know if it's any good?
Yes
was trying to get ethernet but couldn't find a way to get it upstairs lol
so had to go with that one
oh alright
where do u plug that in?
the small PCIe ports on the left of the cpu?
bottom left*
Ye
and also, would that be better than any wifi card included in the mob?
oh alright
Prolly
Well, ax200 is kinda the best wifi chip avaliable atm afaik
wouldnt that block the gpu tho?
oh the antennas are kinda long
Ye then ur good
the white one if yk what it is
Ye ye
Might
ok will it be auto?
You should install all drivers
not auto
You might need to get drivers for the wifi card before it works but yeye
ok
wait how am i supposed to install the drivers for the wifi card without wifi?
mhm 😅
get usb stick, download and put driver on, stab stick into pc
but it might work without having to do so, and you can just get updated drivers again
kay, wifi is so essential these days lol
Guys can anyone suggest a good budget GPU for gaming and movie rendering
Define "budget"
I'd say 3060ti for 400 ish msrp
^
about 400 quids
3070 then
@desert gulch let me look up 3070 and 3060
I thought that was 3060ti territory
3070 closer to 2080ti
All gpu are out of stock
.
Umm for Uk not really I don’t think
I don’t live there
@fossil cedar any way of getting gpu in the uk?
scan
currys.co.uk have been doing a few drops as well as ebuyer, but search stock informer uk and go to the gpu section its got alerts for pretty much all the sites
overclockers.co.uk sometimes
from what ive seen mainly currys and ebuyer tiny bit of newegg as well
checked in curry too. it is out of stock
no you need to keep checking
Any physical store which i can pick up?
Nope, not that i know of you have a way larger chance by using the stock informer site anyway because there is a big stock of them in a warehouse somewhere i doubt any shops are bothering to ship to each one
Whoever pinged me a link you can dm it to me
700 Quid for 3060 12 GB is it ok?
Specifications Key Specifications Chipset GeForce RTX 3060 Edition TUF Gaming Manufacturing process 8 nm Microarchitecture Ampere Cores & Clocks Cores 3584 Core Clock 1320 MHz Boost Clock 1807 MHz Video Memory (VRAM) Memory Size 12GB Memory Type GDDR6 Memory Clock Memory Bus 192 Bit Cooling Cooling Solution Tri F
Anyone know if that's legit for aldrine, i doubt tbh
It's the uk btw so any ppl from UK actually know this site?
welcome to the past 6 months
Stock has been down ever since they released the cards
Like we're talking about shortages that could last years
Then in new cards, anything good for < 500 quids?
you're gonna have to nolife alert streams for that
Not that Ik of. I'm not from the UK, so I don't know the market there
Stock is stock lol
Any advice for checking stock like any time frame?
Not really prices are inflated but i doubt it's legit
In NA, stock supply comes bi-weekly on Best Buy and through Newegg Shuffle. In the UK and Europe, stock comes when it comes. I suggest finding stock alerting servers and other alerting systems
Just note we might hit another surge in shortage with TSMC running out of water to make microchips
Didnt they say they had enough to last all summer?
Yes for now
I'm taking about later
Q4 2021 and Q1 2022
Hopefully Taiwan has rain soon
got it... Thanks @scenic turret @fossil cedar @vagrant olive
already told them about that lol
Yea I just saw
litterally told them one that i found thats really good but they seemed to be quite impatient :/
Cards are such a high demand commodity, patience is key
exactly
I wonder how the 3080ti will affect this 🤔. I wanna bet 10s sold out on release
def gonna be sold out right away but probs paper launch lol
Truuu
Guys I need help
Where do I install the 970 evo first slot of the m.2 or the 2nd one
Mobo is b550 aorus elite v2
first
you can do 2nd too tho
So I should put the 970 evo I. The forst roght
No
On a B550 motherboard, M.2_1 is connected via CPU lanes, which happen to be PCIe 4.0
Pcie is backwards compatible.
Iirc yes
It should
Ok
Also
Is it the 1 and 3rd a lot
For dual channel
It doesn’t say in the mobo book
Ok
So technically you should still get dual channel benefits even with slot 1 and 4
Taken from the manual
Usually wouldn't work tho
But 2 and 4 are always to be put in first
But ye 2&4 away from cpu
If it does, its technically still dual channel
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even if it doesn’t its technically still dual channel lol
No
?????
2 and 4
Second and Fourth slots away from the cpu
You put it in 1 and 4
Ok fixed it
thats dual channel, but the difference in trace length and layout could effect max stable speed, but if XMP runs like that than so be it
ofc its dependent on the board, it might refuse to boot like that who knows
Forgot the name of the other one, but the equidistant one should be fine
Ye talking about memory topology
Guys what’s after my installing the mobo in the case
id start connecting wires from power supply n stuff then cpu cooler or swap those 2 if ya fancy
Why are you here, youtube is much better
Would AMD Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
16GB DDR4-3200 RGB RAM
AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT - 8GB
Or
Intel® Core™ i5-11400F CPU
8GB DDR4-3200 XPG RGB RAM
GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB
Be better
Because I'm getting a prebuilt
What budget
Around 1k no more than 1100
alright
probs better but 1660 super and 11400 would be a good bit better than 5500xt and 3600
Easy to put in ram tho
you can get a stick for 40$ ish
Yes but prebuilt, oh well
also the 1660 super would be a big graphics jump tbf
Idk why they only have 8gb ram
cuz they want all the money
Because cheapos
Those builds are from ibuypower
So?
Just saying
Changes nothing
They want every last cent lol
Thanks that looks like a good one
how r u supposed to install and secure the wifi card?
Just like a gpu
But doesn’t that block the gpu slot?
Like this
The wifi goes on the smaller pcie
And then where should I put the gpu if the wifi card is there?
Wifi can go on leftmost slot
And unless your gpu is like 5 slots thick it won't block the GPU
Never realized the back of my mobo has an m2 slot lmao
Yep
Alright it feels like there is a bit of tension tho
Like it’s not at the right spot but I have to like turn it to the right spot
How so?
Like yk how there are these backplate things on the back
I kinda have to push the board right to fit the screw hole
The wifi board*
That's kinda normal tbh
Kk
As long as it's not too bad
Yea it’s fine I believe
Now I just need to connect it
And also the wifi board came with two screws not sure where they supposed to go
It's probs for changing the plate on the side to an alternate one
Probs not
lol lol
Kay
And it’s a 9 pin right?
Which one should it be?
Wait and I totally forgot where this came from
Nvm got it
But where do the pins go?
thats def high
they're spinning though right?
been trying to figure why my speakers wouldnt work when connected to my mobo for a few weeks now. turns out hd audio in the bios wasnt set to on
b560 + 11400 or 11600k would be much better
Hey guys if I want to flash bios when do I do it
Before installing cpu Ram and m.2 or after
Also can I use a stock cooler on a old amd system
i changed to that
after
old as is am3+?
@next kestrel A6
so ur gonna use an old cooler from that system on a new one?
No so use a 5600x stock cooler on a A6 AMD system
different mounting afaik
What’s that
uhhh the only one i can 100% confirm works is the wraith prism
So it won’t work
No, it wont.
I see
Also
How would I flash the bios after
With a usb right
With the updated bios
depends if you have bios flashback or not
it yes, you just plug in usb with bios on it then press button
if not, you gotta go into the bios with a working cpu and update it thru the existing bios
Ooh I never got noti, Yes they are spinning and my fans r high. I just find it easier to have a constant speed instead of making a curve and testing
I had HW info up all day and ran benchmark + played games and Gpu stayed at under 60c
But yeah 75% seems pretty high but I don't have a case and ai can't hear them whilst sitting a few inches away from it so as long as I don't break the fans...
My cpu I'll have to reapply thermal paste since it's getting way too hot
hm
this is my gpu fan curve
its a dual fan 3060
temps never go above 50C, although i mostly play csgo so i wouldnt expect them to
jet engine noises be like
its pretty quiet
i used to have it be 0% until 30C and then go to 40% at 45C but it would constantly hover around that temp and the fans would go off/on so i figured it would be simpler to just have it 40% base
nice
Anyone recommend a good 2066 motherboard for a 9900x?
Recently got my hands on a 9900x for like $100
Is the Noctua NT-H1 a good thermal compound for a Intel Core I5-9400f with an AIO 240mm cooler
for thermal compound and especally in your case it wont really matter what you go with.
if you already have NT-H1 just go for it
Thanks
Any decent paste will do
i dont need the clutch. im just gonna use paddle shifters
so i dont need clutch pedal
money saved
wat
That one is $200 and doesn't have a clutch or anything
My wheel was 250 or 300 and doesn't have a clutch either.
So I just finished building my computer(I don't have an os loaded on to it yet), and when I turn it on, two of the four Ram sticks don't light up, but everything else does. All of the fans spin, but not the GPU fans. I assume yall probably need more info to help me, but this is kind of the general idea of what is going on. Just ask as many questions as you need
Try reseat the ram, take it out put it back in and gpu fans don't spin until it's starts doing stuff these days
Is ok to mount a 360 mm radio on the front of a case?????
Do you have a debug led on the motherboard
Im not sure
@wicked frigate if you can, mount it on thetop the front of the case is best saved for intakes
What would it loook like
As long as your case has radiotor support for it
A little led lighting up on the motherboard with some text beside it usually
But is it better to mount ont he top
the debug is either by the chipset or atx power connector
Cause my friend can mount it on the tip but can mount it in the front side
What’s the benefit of mounting it on the top than the side
yea,there a light up dot next to dram
Cooler air is coming in
Since it doesn't go thru radiator forst
Pump life.
But it will work fine right
Yeah both work fine
Ok thx
Then try reseat all your ram, if that doesn't work, try just 2 sticks, then 1 stick
ok
i can try a similar fan curve and see if it works
it probably depends on your gpu but I can't even hear the fans spinning until it goes over 80% which is like 2000 something rpm
if anything my psu I can't wait to get rid of, so much louder than my entire system
otherwise considering that I dont play graphic intensive games, capped at 1440p 180fps I wont even hit 90% usage of gpu
only games that hit 99 r java mc(shaders), bedrock(rtx)
Is it smart to get a 3060 ti for msrp or a 1080 ti for 130
1080TI for 130? SOunds like a scam or only the cooler or something
if u can get a 3060ti at msrp I would say take it
what is the fe like 399? thats 400 usd and u r ready for up tp 1440p rtx with dlss at over 75 fps depending on the game
i would say if ur on 1080p and 1080ti isnt a scam u should get it but if u want higher res and or rtx then 3060ti
It's a asus ko 3060 ti for 480
I bought it on ebay but it is likely to be a scam
It has ebay money back warranty so I can refund it anytime
@olive kraken
@muted patio it's on ebay rn
Scam
Yuou won't get your money back either
119 sold
Soon the listing will be gone
Last time I bought a 5700xt
Never arrived but I got a refund the same day
See this all the time, they set up a store with a crap ton of cheap GPU's, sell 200+, people are out of their money because they close the account and run
IDK about that, would need to see the listing
Probably the same thing seeing as how current listings are $1300+
I found a listing for one taht's $419 that takes you to a nowhere page
That one was a scam
Hopefully you get your money back on both
We shall see what happens :/
I just saw the message and as long as it's anywhere near msrp it's a good deal
laughs in 750usd 3060ti
It's not though, it's a scam. Found the listing and it takes you to a nowhere Ebay page
Pretty much any GPU you find on Ebay remotely near to MSRP is a scam in some way
Things keep on getting worse and worst for them gamers
I know that Bitwi(the yt channel) recently had a sponsor that sells windows keys for really cheap(like 15 dollars). Is this legit? Are there better ways to get windows keys?
Bitwit?
it can be okay, mostly grey
Meh, 15$ isn't too cheap for windows keys xD
they keys are usually good though
I'm used to the 5$ keys but eh, it's just grey market
I bought a $5 key once and it worked for 5 years so
kyle
They said "bitwi" so
Typo probably. I can't count the number of times I've managed to drop a letter or worse hit enter before I was done.
my bad
its supposed to be bitwit
So what would be the best way to get a windows key?
u dont get one
wut
windows can function perfectly without a key
the limitations of cusotmizability can be solved through free softwares
im good
not going to be advocating for the grey market here either.
buy a legit one from a retailer
id pay 15 dolars to not have to deal with that
sounds like you knew the answer to your question then
I just meant like theres probably more than a few ways to get a windows key, im just asking what would be the best one
Non authorized sources are a no no here. Even Ebay is a gray area.
^
ok
thanks, so i have to spend like 100 dollars on a key then?
u dont have to buy a key
Sorry momo, i have ruled out using 3rd party softwares and stuff
anyone wanna help me with this slight problem, my buddy needs a list (uk around 900 pounds)
given the budget he also asked for a bit of flare, which is common. but he requested a pc 011 D and therefore bringing up the cost of chassis + fans increasingly. i tried my best to fit his standards while also delivering decent price/performance parts. now im stuck with a b506m hdv and 6 gelid stellas kekw. @muted patio i remember us talking about a sata powered 6 channel fan/rgb hub a while back. do you still remember the product name? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kNLCW3 list if any of you are interested
🤦♂️
windows is free
a windows key is not
why are you telling me you've ruled out 3rd party softwares when I never recommended anything fo the sort
Wouldn't this involce using 3rd party softwares?
the OS itself is free directly from Microsoft themselves. the 100 usd or so key grants you access to
customizable background, customizable taskbar colors. and tiny futile details
This would be considered a third party software
oh ok
the OS is free. to buy a windows activation key youre paying 100+ usd for customizability.
precisely
ok, have you personally done this? Just out of curiosity
Lmao
lol
It's called just not activating it
@shut lagoon the program im mainly talking about is wallpaper engine. just 5 usd to customize your background compared to 100+ usd for taskbar colors/watermark/background
you dont need to activate windows
the OS will function fine
without a key
the key is just for customizability and a water mark you barely notice.
but there would be a watermark?
is there software to get rid of that?
If you don't buy a key the watermark stays there
is that constantly there or only on the desktop
there are workarounds for this but it's not something i will advocate
Constantly
hm
How are the grey stores or whatever you where calling them able to buy the keys for 100 and sell them for a tenth of that?
They don't buy them
They are leftover keys from business and whatnot
They get them through different ways
oh ok
So why is it like against every pc discord servers rules to advocate for the cheaper keys?
leftover keys
Because it's a non-Official source
against TOS iirc
Reselling Volume Licensing keys is against Microsoft TOS
ANd not all of them are leftovers, some are purchased with stolen credit cards and resold there
But hundreds of websites just do it anyway?
Ofcourse
Until they get shut down and make a new one
in the process of debating which one is the better deal. Legion 5 does feature a 1660s instead of a 1650s but the HP system has an 11400.
similar pricing as well
ah i guess it comes down entirely to what kind of games you play
Or what your doing with the pc
if its just gaming obviosuly go with the better graphics card, its not going to make a difference, if you do stuff thats more cpu intensive go with the 11400
imo
What if I have a computer that has the key on it? Can I use the same key?
Deactivate then use software to retrieve the key
So I wouldn't be able to use the key on that computer anymore
Yup
But I could still do the watermark thing?
@shut lagoon sometimes people breach a companies account because they can generate keys for their enterprise
Just buy a key
From Microsoft
would go with vetroo v5 for cooler
5 usd cheaper and features rgb (similar performance)
also black version of that ram kit is only 1 usd more. red ram is always tacky.
Might not be cheaper but it's safer
Either or
You don't get anything crazy from buying the key
Just the ability to change a few things
which can be changed with third party apps
ie wallpaper engine, translucent tb/taskbarx, rainmeter
They perform same and mb they like red lol
just throwing out some suggestions
Fair
this better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhtt2V
What is the difference between an oem key and an online activation key
1660 is a meme they shouldn't have even made it
mm doubt you need a pilot-e for a drive. i feel youre better off with an mp33 saving yourself a few bucks and roughly +12 gb of storage
The 2 coolers perform the same so pick whichever you like best, and i would just get an sn550 if you're only getting a 500gb ssd
sn550 65 usd
would've been a better opt at ~55
i would go with mp33
Whichever is cheaper
mp33- 53 usd
Sn550- 65 usd iirc
Ahh i didn't check prices, and sn550 cheaper in eu so that's what i based off
mhm, was a great drive for 55 usd
mp33 was cheaper so i put it in
i don't think you need a rev df 850w either. some other options for ~90 usd are
CX 2017 750W - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RGCrxr
Super Flower Le adex III - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M6rRsy
850w would be a bit much for a 3070 and 11400, besides this would save some money.
Tryna decide if i should buy a RX 6800 XT from LTT. I'd hoped for a non $1100 card for my sister :/
but like
It's so close
doesn't change anything
ya, but hard to get retail prices these days
youre buying it for msrp ?
LTT's verified gamer program
That's going from an a tier psu to a b tier tbh revolution df is 
i mean its saving around 40 usd. cx 2017 and leadex 3 are fully capable units for the system at hand as well.
while i do agree that the rev df is an exceptional unit, it seems a bit overkill for this build dont you think?
either way it's the users decision, once again just throwing out suggestions
id do it
but thats just me
how much are you paying for the card?
If they can afford it it's deff one I'd go for as it's 850w for 120 really good deal and it's a tier and that means they have room to upgrade without changing psu
would how powerful ur gpu affect the quality of a monitor
quality of a monitor?
yea my 1080p is blurryier than my retina macbook
Guys is the ICUE H100i elite capellix good
@wicked frigate I have the h100v2 and it works well. Can't say on the specifics tho. I changed the rad fans for ippc noctua
3000 rpm 120 mm
Ok thx
i have it, keeps my 5600x under 50C while gaming
pretty pricey though, definitely more of an aesthetic choiec
if you want a rly good rgb aio id recommend this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yLBhP6/ek-ek-aio-360-d-rgb-6604-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-360-d-rgb
the 360 is oos rn
@hallow glen went and watched that bit, linus is not giving enough context, reasoning that Linus may say it performs worse is because the IF can't handle 1:1 with that fast ram, and the gains are even lower nowadays since IF can do 2000mhz much more frequently, making running the full 5100c19 with 2:1 or something much less attractive than going smth like 4000c14 on AMD.
4800c14 was also the meta ram oc according to forky, and not that unobtainable
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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/znH7YJ 360MM EK AIO basic
Most ayymd cpus struggle to hit 2000 flck iirc.
@frank stirrup Zen 3 with agesa 1.2.0 makes it easier
So basically beta bioses?
It used to be you need goldest of gold samples on Zen 2
@frank stirrup no 1.2.0 released like a month ago
1.2.0.2 or whatever the one with the usb fix was isn't out yet
Ahh I see
Yeah
Thats really nice then
Like it's still not every chip
Its like Zen 2 5% of chips, Zen 3 20% of chips, with agesa update, 40% of chips kinda thing
(Pulling numbers out my rear, don't quote me, but that's the impression I get)
And I refer to "gold sample" as just really good chip, I don't go by any standards
And running flck at less speeds than ram hurts perf in many cases right
Yeah
theyre pretty good performing aios
and by that i mean exceptional performance coming from all of them
Is there better ones
what cpu are you pairing ?
For a 5900x you dont need more than lets say a 240mm ek aio or galahad. LF2 is also an options
whichever one that looks good to you, all of them will cool your 5900x efficiently
at this point aesthetics is the determining factor, well also cost but I assume you have that figured out
There's nothing that performs better than freezer ii in noise normalized GN testing
Galahad slightly edges it out at 100% fan speed iirc
also a heck of a price deal to break for Lf2
Wdym
im talking about price to performance, its hard to beat that
Freezer ii is like 100$ for 240mm
probably should've worded it differently
What’s after artic
Ah I thought you meant price is deal breaker lmao
thats my bad lol
Wait what’s after galihad
Ek-aio, galahad, freezer ii, all around the same
well as Mr just stated, in gamers nexus testing nothing beats arctic lf2 in noise normalized testing (no obnoxious noise) and you get the chase
After that there's the rest of standard asetek
Unless you like loud noises, liquid Freezer ii, galahad, ek-aio best options
Liquid Freezer ii
No don’t want loud noise
Espolan, do you prefer rgb ?
Why
for such expensive fans they really are..how should i put this? sub par at best.
simply due to the frame thickness, blade design, bearing quality, and overall price of the fans.
no they arent good, but they look good (to some people)
Basically, 5$ fans with 25$ LEDs xD
^
That's my opinion
I thought they were good
Arctic P12's are op fans
its just corsair being corsair, overpricing their products and people still buy them. probably because of their brand name
Good looking, yes for most people
arctic p12 cos 😩
mwah such great fans
But there performance isn’t good
enermax tb silence advs are also nice
Good performance in general, not really
Your saying
not in the slightest
gelid stellas
enermax squas mm
you said you already had the LL120's right? are you sure you want to return them
No
Gelid stellas sketch me out for some reason lol
Can’t anymore
Literal best performing has to be between nidex GT and nf-a12x25 imo
pretty sure Mario (idk if you know him) did a teardown on them
Don't know them, I mean the scarcity
ah yea they dont really have a big brand name do they
(buying is sketch, I don't doubt the quality)
id imagine not that great
Who knows
but looks are subjective so
clearly lol
Fine yes
Won't overheat
Ok
@wicked frigate https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yLBhP6
looks like your on the fence with your decisions. personally i'd go with this.
as for the rest of the case fans something like stellas or squas would fit the chassis well
When they own the fans, freezer ii just fine
theres also ek basic as an option
it looks really good imo
So would this look good freezer with artic
No good reviews on it afaik
pair an ek basic aio with p12 cos along with an nr400
oh god its a dream come true
Or ek with ll120
Or Galahad
same thing as ek aio just without the rgb afaik
What
I don't know
What would I guess
Why
Who would
because Lf2 is meant to be a non rgb option
thats why its so cheap
would be futile to put fans such as Ll120's on them lol
So should I get that
What
Yah
The look is the same, it's a black block lol
honestly the thing you should be worried about is the pump design. it doesnt look too great to most people
wait what happened to that open tube aio? esibear was it ?
@wicked frigate take a look
Excuse me what
one second
Yah
Oh that isn't too uncommon
I am confused on which one to get lol
If you dont mind the non rgb pump design and the chonk vrm fan coming out of the LF2 go for that.
but if you want an RGB pump as well as some more well performing rgb fans the EK- AIO is youre route
also price should be play a factor in your decision.
Wish I was an expert like u guys
we're giving you the details and the same amount of info we do. its up to personal preference here
I am replacing the fans either way
LF2 then, if you dont mind the pump
huh i really never noticed
i guess ive just never seen a fill port so close to the pump
Wait will I need to replace the liquid
no
Fill port is just
theyre closed loop so you wont need to do anything
Unnecessary for you
inb4 filling aio with mineral oil
Does rgb on the pump really matter
does it matter to you?
its rgb after all. its up to personal preference
How would the Galahad and ek look in a pc
one day just maybe one day the roboclocker will be out on the market
i wonder if i'll be alive for the day XOC will be mainstream enough to be done in your room
Lol
wont be needed huge ln2 tanks lol
Maybe it'll become necessary when we get conventional quantum computers
quantum computers becoming mainstream :monkas
What’s the stats on ek vs artic vs Galahad
arctic > galahad > ek aio iirc
not by much tho, very similar in performance
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Yah I wanted to see the performance difference
Just look at the charts
What time frame
tech jesus
Lower the better right
Smaller number = cooler
higher placement - cooler as well
blue is idle temps and red is on load
@wicked frigate just watch the video
idle temps = useless
You want data the video has data
Ok I’ll watch it later
I am going to micro center
Rn
Wait guys what’s the warranty
once again Espolan, if i were you i'd just go with the EK AIO 360mm and use the extra fans for a push pull 
Push pull pointless
i mean what else are you gna do with the vardar fans
i suppose u could sell them..
Lol
the name of the warranty..?
Umm
6 years on freezer ii
5 on ek aio iirc
Galahad
Ok
Thx
Read the title lol
Ok thx guys