#building-and-recc-chat

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muted patio
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Has everything to do with model and brand

hasty mountain
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ahh

muted patio
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There are good and bad bronze and gold PSU's

hasty mountain
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hmm ok

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wats the difference between good and bad

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cus all i k is wattage

muted patio
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Protections, OCP, OTP, voltage regulation, etc

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if you want a cheat sheet, pick Tier B or Tier A from this list https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

hasty mountain
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k ty

clear moat
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One last question

little osprey
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did that lady fix her problem?

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the full white

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build

clear moat
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For the gpu replacement of thermal pads. How many packs of thermal pads do I need?

muted patio
hasty mountain
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nvm

muted patio
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Look for a teardown

clear moat
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I saw on reddit guy replaced it with 1mm on the face and 3mm on the back

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But I just need to know how many packs to buy

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Ah got you

hasty mountain
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um is there like a reccomendation

little osprey
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One thing I am super excited for is to build my pccc

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I am giving myself til August to get it done

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I still dunno what monitor to pick doe. Like I found one I like but idk if I should get it

muted patio
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What resolution

little osprey
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The monitor & keyboard I am getting

rich helm
hasty mountain
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alr ty

little osprey
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It's a pretty good monitor, I saw good reviews and someone ik owns one and really likes it

hasty mountain
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lmao nice keyboard

muted patio
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for Canada

hasty mountain
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ty

little osprey
little osprey
muted patio
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Monitor review site

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That one isn't there

little osprey
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Ah okay

muted patio
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Don't trust user reviews either

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Most of them have no idea what they're talking about XD

little osprey
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For the one I am looking at, there is no reviews on it. At least from the website itself. I'm sure if I found it on Amazon or something there will be reviews @muted patio

muted patio
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Again, user based reviews

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Which are pretty bad

fluid valve
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Monitor is good, I have the same one

little osprey
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How so?

little osprey
muted patio
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User reviews are "It works, I like it"

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There's no comparison for backlight bleed, screen tearing, etc

timber crescent
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What are my options for making my power cables more manageable right know i have sleaved cables but they have electrical tape or something simular at the end by the connector making them stiff.

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My case is an o11 dynamic i want to bend the cables so they get tucked into the back area but can't bend them to get behind the board until they are sticking out quite a bit.

earnest olive
stoic island
hallow glen
stoic island
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cooler comes with paste

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extra fans aren't really a need, it's quite nice to have with 4000d but you can get away without it

hallow glen
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thats only 8 dollars

stoic island
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saving money comes one step at a time

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You can step down to a phanteks amp 750w for 110$

hallow glen
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ok

stoic island
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and you may choose to scale down the estimate for gpu pricing

hallow glen
stoic island
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bruh

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you don't need that paste

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you can save 5$ by going for se-224-xt basic

hallow glen
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fine

odd cosmos
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not sure the prices in the us, but that ram should be cheaper

hallow glen
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ram prices are up i think

stoic island
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meh, not much cheaper

hallow glen
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used to be 70 dollars

odd cosmos
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ok yea ig so

stoic island
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and imo ballistix is worth the 8$ over the other ones since tuning reve is op

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and b560 allows you to do so

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but if you have to, there's a xpg kit for 8$ cheaper for 3000c16

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otherwise, it's fine

hallow glen
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k

hallow glen
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yes good idea

odd cosmos
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idk if its good but there is a cheaper asrock verision of the B560 mob

stoic island
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Smh it's not 2000$ not good enough

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B560m hdv is out of stock

odd cosmos
odd cosmos
stoic island
hallow glen
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does this actually mean that this is coming soon

stoic island
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

odd cosmos
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lmao

hallow glen
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5100 ram is actually slower bc of bad timing

stoic island
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@odd cosmos buildzoid

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@hallow glen excuse me what

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What

hallow glen
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yeah i saw it on linus small good pc build

stoic island
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What are you comparing it to

hallow glen
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slower memory

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with better timing

stoic island
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Smh

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We can calculate first word read or cl timing

odd cosmos
hallow glen
odd cosmos
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but why r they so freaking expensive?

stoic island
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Too lazy to look at linus

hallow glen
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that time stamp

stoic island
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I'm guessing you're extrapolating his info too much

hallow glen
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i gave u the time stamp

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no

stoic island
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Yes 3200c14 outperforms 3600c16

hallow glen
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he says that

stoic island
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Ick, I'll watch it when I have time

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But 5000c19 will slap the hell out of any reasonably priced kits at xmp

odd cosmos
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i dont really get it lol

stoic island
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What

hallow glen
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no that is the latency

stoic island
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Lower timing is better

hallow glen
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or timing

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latency timing

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idk

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lower is better

stoic island
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Scaling on some random bench I found for example

odd cosmos
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mbmb

stoic island
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Yes the manually toned 3000mhz sticks do very well, but the manually tuned 3800mhz sticks do better

odd cosmos
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does this stuff have any practical differences

stoic island
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Yes

odd cosmos
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it does?

stoic island
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There's scaling

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To some point

odd cosmos
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like for example, how much better is 3200 vs 3600 both cl16

stoic island
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Depends on Intel or Ryzen, up to 10% gains in select games on Ryzen just because IF

queen dagger
stoic island
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So you currently own the build?

odd cosmos
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the name of that cooler lmao

stoic island
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Dr4 is interesting but eh

queen dagger
stoic island
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Hm

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Any way you could return the mobo?

queen dagger
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nope got it 4 months ago in a rush

stoic island
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2 generations old on a dead-end platform isn't great

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Ick

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Very annoying

queen dagger
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fair, do you have any suggestions? im willing to spend about another 250, i have a price limit of roughly 2000

stoic island
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My reasoning is a 10700k with a z490 board would perform basically the same, except the CPU is cheaper and the chipset has more upgradability (up to 10900k max)

queen dagger
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fair point, but i dont like how hot 10th gen gets

stoic island
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Well, 9900k is also very hot

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At stock, 9900k pulls more power than 10700k, although 10700k OCs a bit higher all core and pulls a bit more

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10th gen also filled the gap between die and ihs iirc

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(better thermal conductivity)

queen dagger
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so uh i might actually be able to do a 10700k

stoic island
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Just depends on how annoying it is to swap z390 board for z490

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9900k isn't bad, just sub optimal

stoic island
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Too expensive for what it is

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There needs to be a really good specific reason for any motherboard above ~200$ imo

queen dagger
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any ideas for a full ATX?

stoic island
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Eh

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220$ isn't great but it's not too terrible

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Like z590 boards will be available for those kinda prices

odd cosmos
stoic island
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Yes

odd cosmos
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was trying to get ethernet but couldn't find a way to get it upstairs lol

stoic island
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It has an Intel ax200 chip

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which is good

odd cosmos
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so had to go with that one

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oh alright

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where do u plug that in?

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the small PCIe ports on the left of the cpu?

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bottom left*

desert gulch
odd cosmos
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and also, would that be better than any wifi card included in the mob?

odd cosmos
desert gulch
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Prolly

stoic island
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Well, ax200 is kinda the best wifi chip avaliable atm afaik

odd cosmos
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wouldnt that block the gpu tho?

desert gulch
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No

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What board?

odd cosmos
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oh the antennas are kinda long

odd cosmos
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from askrock

desert gulch
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Ye then ur good

odd cosmos
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the white one if yk what it is

desert gulch
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Ye ye

odd cosmos
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ok thanksss

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btw, do i have to install some drivers?

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for cpu, mob, case eg

stoic island
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Might

odd cosmos
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ok will it be auto?

stoic island
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You should install all drivers

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not auto

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You might need to get drivers for the wifi card before it works but yeye

odd cosmos
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ok

odd cosmos
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mhm 😅

stoic island
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get usb stick, download and put driver on, stab stick into pc

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but it might work without having to do so, and you can just get updated drivers again

odd cosmos
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kay, wifi is so essential these days lol

steep comet
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Guys can anyone suggest a good budget GPU for gaming and movie rendering

desert gulch
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I'd say 3060ti for 400 ish msrp

rich helm
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^

steep comet
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about 400 quids

desert gulch
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3070 then

steep comet
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@desert gulch let me look up 3070 and 3060

desert gulch
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Well

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3060 is like 2060super perf

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3070 is like 2080 super ish perf

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In gaming

rich helm
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3070 closer to 2080ti

desert gulch
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Meh kinda

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Ig

steep comet
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3060 Ti is £658.98 and Out of stock

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Am i looking at the right card

rich helm
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All gpu are out of stock

rich helm
steep comet
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Any options for buying it?

rich helm
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Umm for Uk not really I don’t think

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I don’t live there

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@fossil cedar any way of getting gpu in the uk?

stoic island
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scan

fossil cedar
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currys.co.uk have been doing a few drops as well as ebuyer, but search stock informer uk and go to the gpu section its got alerts for pretty much all the sites

stoic island
fossil cedar
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from what ive seen mainly currys and ebuyer tiny bit of newegg as well

steep comet
fossil cedar
steep comet
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Any physical store which i can pick up?

robust lake
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Only microcenter

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But its not on the uk so no

fossil cedar
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Whoever pinged me a link you can dm it to me

steep comet
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700 Quid for 3060 12 GB is it ok?

fossil cedar
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PARANET.UK Ltd

Specifications Key Specifications Chipset GeForce RTX 3060 Edition TUF Gaming Manufacturing process 8 nm Microarchitecture Ampere Cores & Clocks Cores 3584 Core Clock 1320 MHz Boost Clock 1807 MHz Video Memory (VRAM) Memory Size 12GB Memory Type GDDR6 Memory Clock   Memory Bus 192 Bit Cooling Cooling Solution Tri F

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Anyone know if that's legit for aldrine, i doubt tbh

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It's the uk btw so any ppl from UK actually know this site?

scenic turret
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Seems to be a local retailer

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That's still hella overpriced though

steep comet
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W T H, all GPU in all websites are Out of Stock.

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is it due to COVID?

vagrant olive
scenic turret
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Stock has been down ever since they released the cards

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Like we're talking about shortages that could last years

steep comet
vagrant olive
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you're gonna have to nolife alert streams for that

scenic turret
fossil cedar
steep comet
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Any advice for checking stock like any time frame?

fossil cedar
scenic turret
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In NA, stock supply comes bi-weekly on Best Buy and through Newegg Shuffle. In the UK and Europe, stock comes when it comes. I suggest finding stock alerting servers and other alerting systems

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Just note we might hit another surge in shortage with TSMC running out of water to make microchips

frank stirrup
scenic turret
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Yes for now

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I'm taking about later

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Q4 2021 and Q1 2022

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Hopefully Taiwan has rain soon

steep comet
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got it... Thanks @scenic turret @fossil cedar @vagrant olive

fossil cedar
scenic turret
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Yea I just saw

fossil cedar
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litterally told them one that i found thats really good but they seemed to be quite impatient :/

scenic turret
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Cards are such a high demand commodity, patience is key

fossil cedar
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exactly

scenic turret
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I wonder how the 3080ti will affect this 🤔. I wanna bet 10s sold out on release

fossil cedar
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def gonna be sold out right away but probs paper launch lol

scenic turret
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Truuu

restive mortar
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Guys I need help

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Where do I install the 970 evo first slot of the m.2 or the 2nd one

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Mobo is b550 aorus elite v2

fossil cedar
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you can do 2nd too tho

restive mortar
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Does it matter I do t think it’s pcie gen 4

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So first one

vagrant olive
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the first one is better

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since its most likely gen 4

restive mortar
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So I should put the 970 evo I. The forst roght

vagrant olive
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just checked, the top slot is pcie gen 4

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yes the slot covered by the heatsink

restive mortar
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Ok

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Ok thx

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Wait so 970 evo is pcie gen 4

stoic island
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No

restive mortar
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But can I put it in the pcie gen 4 slot

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Also I have 32 gig 3600 cl16 ran

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Ran

stoic island
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On a B550 motherboard, M.2_1 is connected via CPU lanes, which happen to be PCIe 4.0
Pcie is backwards compatible.

restive mortar
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Will it work

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Ok

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On b550 aorus elite v2 is it A2 b2 for dual channel ram

stoic island
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Iirc yes

restive mortar
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Ok so will my ran work

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3600 cl16

stoic island
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It should

restive mortar
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Ok

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Also

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Is it the 1 and 3rd a lot

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For dual channel

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It doesn’t say in the mobo book

stoic island
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Usually 2&4 away from the cpu

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I'll check again

restive mortar
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Ok

frank stirrup
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1 and 2 are one channel

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3 and 4 are the 2nd channel

restive mortar
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I want dual channel

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CUse I got 2

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Sticks

stoic island
frank stirrup
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So technically you should still get dual channel benefits even with slot 1 and 4

stoic island
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Taken from the manual

frank stirrup
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But 2 and 4 are always to be put in first

stoic island
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But ye 2&4 away from cpu

frank stirrup
stoic island
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

frank stirrup
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Even if it doesn’t its technically still dual channel lol

restive mortar
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Like that right

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M.2 is under the heat sink

stoic island
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No

restive mortar
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?????

stoic island
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2 and 4

restive mortar
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Ohhhh

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Sry

stoic island
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Second and Fourth slots away from the cpu

frank stirrup
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You put it in 1 and 4

restive mortar
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Ok fixed it

viral ore
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thats dual channel, but the difference in trace length and layout could effect max stable speed, but if XMP runs like that than so be it

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ofc its dependent on the board, it might refuse to boot like that who knows

stoic island
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@viral ore wouldn't daisy chain just refuse to work?

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If you did 1 and 4

viral ore
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thats true

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if thats the memory trace topology, of course

stoic island
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Forgot the name of the other one, but the equidistant one should be fine

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Ye talking about memory topology

restive mortar
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Guys what’s after my installing the mobo in the case

fossil cedar
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id start connecting wires from power supply n stuff then cpu cooler or swap those 2 if ya fancy

restive mortar
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What’s bout

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The fans

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Auto

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Aio

nova summit
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Why are you here, youtube is much better

spice badger
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Would AMD Ryzen 5 3600 CPU

16GB DDR4-3200 RGB RAM

AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT - 8GB

Or

Intel® Core™ i5-11400F CPU

8GB DDR4-3200 XPG RGB RAM

GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB

Be better

stoic island
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Why are those the only options

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It's so annoying

spice badger
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Because I'm getting a prebuilt

stoic island
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What budget

spice badger
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Around 1k no more than 1100

stoic island
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Should be able to do a good bit better than that

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Lemme check

spice badger
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alright

fossil cedar
stoic island
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But ram

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If it's 1x8 against 2x8, the 2x8 just wins

fossil cedar
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mm true

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but add a stick

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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you can get a stick for 40$ ish

stoic island
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Yes but prebuilt, oh well

fossil cedar
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also the 1660 super would be a big graphics jump tbf

spice badger
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Idk why they only have 8gb ram

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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Because cheapos

spice badger
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Those builds are from ibuypower

frank stirrup
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So?

spice badger
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Just saying

frank stirrup
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Changes nothing

fossil cedar
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They want every last cent lol

stoic island
spice badger
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Thanks that looks like a good one

odd cosmos
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how r u supposed to install and secure the wifi card?

stoic island
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Just like a gpu

odd cosmos
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But doesn’t that block the gpu slot?

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Like this

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The wifi goes on the smaller pcie

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And then where should I put the gpu if the wifi card is there?

stoic island
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Wifi can go on leftmost slot

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And unless your gpu is like 5 slots thick it won't block the GPU

odd cosmos
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Kay

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That’s right?

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Do I have to screw it on

clear moat
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Never realized the back of my mobo has an m2 slot lmao

fossil cedar
odd cosmos
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Alright it feels like there is a bit of tension tho

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Like it’s not at the right spot but I have to like turn it to the right spot

fossil cedar
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How so?

odd cosmos
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Like yk how there are these backplate things on the back

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I kinda have to push the board right to fit the screw hole

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The wifi board*

fossil cedar
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That's kinda normal tbh

odd cosmos
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Kk

fossil cedar
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As long as it's not too bad

odd cosmos
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Yea it’s fine I believe

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Now I just need to connect it

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And also the wifi board came with two screws not sure where they supposed to go

fossil cedar
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It's probs for changing the plate on the side to an alternate one

odd cosmos
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So I don’t really need them rights

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Right*

fossil cedar
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Probs not

odd cosmos
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lol lol

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Kay

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And it’s a 9 pin right?

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Which one should it be?

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Wait and I totally forgot where this came from

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Nvm got it

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But where do the pins go?

olive kraken
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How bad is it that I have all of my gpu fans at a constant 75%

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Can't hear them

vagrant olive
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they're spinning though right?

steep fern
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been trying to figure why my speakers wouldnt work when connected to my mobo for a few weeks now. turns out hd audio in the bios wasnt set to on

hasty mountain
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can someone check my build?

next kestrel
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b560 + 11400 or 11600k would be much better

wicked frigate
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Hey guys if I want to flash bios when do I do it

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Before installing cpu Ram and m.2 or after

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Also can I use a stock cooler on a old amd system

hasty mountain
next kestrel
wicked frigate
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@next kestrel A6

next kestrel
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so ur gonna use an old cooler from that system on a new one?

wicked frigate
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No so use a 5600x stock cooler on a A6 AMD system

stoic island
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different mounting afaik

wicked frigate
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What’s that

next kestrel
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uhhh the only one i can 100% confirm works is the wraith prism

wicked frigate
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So it won’t work

stoic island
muted patio
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No, it wont.

wicked frigate
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I see

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Also

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How would I flash the bios after

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With a usb right

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With the updated bios

desert gulch
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it yes, you just plug in usb with bios on it then press button

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if not, you gotta go into the bios with a working cpu and update it thru the existing bios

olive kraken
# vagrant olive thats def high

Ooh I never got noti, Yes they are spinning and my fans r high. I just find it easier to have a constant speed instead of making a curve and testing

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I had HW info up all day and ran benchmark + played games and Gpu stayed at under 60c

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But yeah 75% seems pretty high but I don't have a case and ai can't hear them whilst sitting a few inches away from it so as long as I don't break the fans...

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My cpu I'll have to reapply thermal paste since it's getting way too hot

vagrant olive
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hm

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this is my gpu fan curve

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its a dual fan 3060

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temps never go above 50C, although i mostly play csgo so i wouldnt expect them to

obsidian wigeon
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jet engine noises be like

vagrant olive
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its pretty quiet

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i used to have it be 0% until 30C and then go to 40% at 45C but it would constantly hover around that temp and the fans would go off/on so i figured it would be simpler to just have it 40% base

obsidian wigeon
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nice

sage onyx
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nice

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cool

sharp pelican
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Anyone recommend a good 2066 motherboard for a 9900x?

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Recently got my hands on a 9900x for like $100

stoic island
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x299 dark

sharp pelican
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yeah....

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Thats the problem lol

formal girder
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Is the Noctua NT-H1 a good thermal compound for a Intel Core I5-9400f with an AIO 240mm cooler

little osprey
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for thermal compound and especally in your case it wont really matter what you go with.

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if you already have NT-H1 just go for it

formal girder
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Thanks

stoic island
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Any decent paste will do

topaz zinc
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anyone know good racing wheel?

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under 200

topaz zinc
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so i dont need clutch pedal

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money saved

muted patio
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wat

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That one is $200 and doesn't have a clutch or anything

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My wheel was 250 or 300 and doesn't have a clutch either.

shut lagoon
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So I just finished building my computer(I don't have an os loaded on to it yet), and when I turn it on, two of the four Ram sticks don't light up, but everything else does. All of the fans spin, but not the GPU fans. I assume yall probably need more info to help me, but this is kind of the general idea of what is going on. Just ask as many questions as you need

fossil cedar
shut lagoon
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oh ok

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why no video signal?

wicked frigate
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Is ok to mount a 360 mm radio on the front of a case?????

fossil cedar
shut lagoon
flint steeple
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@wicked frigate if you can, mount it on thetop the front of the case is best saved for intakes

shut lagoon
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What would it loook like

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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But is it better to mount ont he top

flint steeple
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the debug is either by the chipset or atx power connector

wicked frigate
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Cause my friend can mount it on the tip but can mount it in the front side

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What’s the benefit of mounting it on the top than the side

shut lagoon
desert gulch
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Since it doesn't go thru radiator forst

wicked frigate
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Ohhh

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Ok

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Thx guys

wicked frigate
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But it will work fine right

desert gulch
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Yeah both work fine

wicked frigate
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Ok thx

fossil cedar
shut lagoon
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ok

olive kraken
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it probably depends on your gpu but I can't even hear the fans spinning until it goes over 80% which is like 2000 something rpm

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if anything my psu I can't wait to get rid of, so much louder than my entire system

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otherwise considering that I dont play graphic intensive games, capped at 1440p 180fps I wont even hit 90% usage of gpu

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only games that hit 99 r java mc(shaders), bedrock(rtx)

hexed hull
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Is it smart to get a 3060 ti for msrp or a 1080 ti for 130

muted patio
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1080TI for 130? SOunds like a scam or only the cooler or something

olive kraken
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what is the fe like 399? thats 400 usd and u r ready for up tp 1440p rtx with dlss at over 75 fps depending on the game

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i would say if ur on 1080p and 1080ti isnt a scam u should get it but if u want higher res and or rtx then 3060ti

robust lake
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Get both

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Sell 1080 ti for 500

hexed hull
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I bought it on ebay but it is likely to be a scam
It has ebay money back warranty so I can refund it anytime

#

@olive kraken

#

@muted patio it's on ebay rn

muted patio
#

Scam

#

Yuou won't get your money back either

#

119 sold

#

Soon the listing will be gone

hexed hull
#

Last time I bought a 5700xt
Never arrived but I got a refund the same day

muted patio
#

See this all the time, they set up a store with a crap ton of cheap GPU's, sell 200+, people are out of their money because they close the account and run

hexed hull
#

What about the 3060 ti

#

I bought it for 480

#

Asus ko

muted patio
#

IDK about that, would need to see the listing

#

Probably the same thing seeing as how current listings are $1300+

#

I found a listing for one taht's $419 that takes you to a nowhere page

#

That one was a scam

#

Hopefully you get your money back on both

#

We shall see what happens :/

olive kraken
#

I just saw the message and as long as it's anywhere near msrp it's a good deal

#

laughs in 750usd 3060ti

muted patio
#

It's not though, it's a scam. Found the listing and it takes you to a nowhere Ebay page

olive kraken
#

Oh well

#

Rip

muted patio
#

Pretty much any GPU you find on Ebay remotely near to MSRP is a scam in some way

olive kraken
#

Things keep on getting worse and worst for them gamers

shut lagoon
#

I know that Bitwi(the yt channel) recently had a sponsor that sells windows keys for really cheap(like 15 dollars). Is this legit? Are there better ways to get windows keys?

stoic island
#

Bitwit?

mighty bobcat
#

it can be okay, mostly grey

stoic island
#

Meh, 15$ isn't too cheap for windows keys xD

mighty bobcat
#

they keys are usually good though

stoic island
#

I'm used to the 5$ keys but eh, it's just grey market

mighty bobcat
#

I bought a $5 key once and it worked for 5 years so

little osprey
stoic island
#

They said "bitwi" so

cold sorrel
#

Typo probably. I can't count the number of times I've managed to drop a letter or worse hit enter before I was done.

shut lagoon
#

its supposed to be bitwit

#

So what would be the best way to get a windows key?

little osprey
#

u dont get one

shut lagoon
little osprey
#

windows can function perfectly without a key
the limitations of cusotmizability can be solved through free softwares

shut lagoon
#

im good

little osprey
#

not going to be advocating for the grey market here either.
buy a legit one from a retailer

shut lagoon
#

id pay 15 dolars to not have to deal with that

little osprey
#

sounds like you knew the answer to your question then

shut lagoon
#

I just meant like theres probably more than a few ways to get a windows key, im just asking what would be the best one

muted patio
#

Non authorized sources are a no no here. Even Ebay is a gray area.

little osprey
#

^

shut lagoon
#

thanks, so i have to spend like 100 dollars on a key then?

little osprey
#

u dont have to buy a key

shut lagoon
#

Sorry momo, i have ruled out using 3rd party softwares and stuff

little osprey
#

anyone wanna help me with this slight problem, my buddy needs a list (uk around 900 pounds)
given the budget he also asked for a bit of flare, which is common. but he requested a pc 011 D and therefore bringing up the cost of chassis + fans increasingly. i tried my best to fit his standards while also delivering decent price/performance parts. now im stuck with a b506m hdv and 6 gelid stellas kekw. @muted patio i remember us talking about a sata powered 6 channel fan/rgb hub a while back. do you still remember the product name? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kNLCW3 list if any of you are interested

little osprey
#

windows is free

shut lagoon
#

a windows key is not

little osprey
#

why are you telling me you've ruled out 3rd party softwares when I never recommended anything fo the sort

shut lagoon
little osprey
#

the OS itself is free directly from Microsoft themselves. the 100 usd or so key grants you access to
customizable background, customizable taskbar colors. and tiny futile details

shut lagoon
little osprey
#

its not third party.

#

its from microsoft themselves

shut lagoon
#

oh ok

little osprey
#

the OS is free. to buy a windows activation key youre paying 100+ usd for customizability.

shut lagoon
#

Which can be unlocked with free softwares

#

correct?

little osprey
#

precisely

shut lagoon
#

ok, have you personally done this? Just out of curiosity

worn wave
#

Lmao

little osprey
#

lol

worn wave
#

It's called just not activating it

little osprey
#

@shut lagoon the program im mainly talking about is wallpaper engine. just 5 usd to customize your background compared to 100+ usd for taskbar colors/watermark/background

#

you dont need to activate windows

#

the OS will function fine

#

without a key

#

the key is just for customizability and a water mark you barely notice.

shut lagoon
#

is there software to get rid of that?

worn wave
#

If you don't buy a key the watermark stays there

little osprey
shut lagoon
#

is that constantly there or only on the desktop

little osprey
#

there are workarounds for this but it's not something i will advocate

worn wave
#

Constantly

shut lagoon
#

hm

#

How are the grey stores or whatever you where calling them able to buy the keys for 100 and sell them for a tenth of that?

worn wave
#

They don't buy them

#

They are leftover keys from business and whatnot

#

They get them through different ways

shut lagoon
#

oh ok

worn wave
#

Usually leftover Volume licence keys

#

Which companies buy in bulk for cheap

shut lagoon
#

So why is it like against every pc discord servers rules to advocate for the cheaper keys?

#

leftover keys

muted patio
#

Because it's a non-Official source

little osprey
#

against TOS iirc

muted patio
#

Reselling Volume Licensing keys is against Microsoft TOS

#

ANd not all of them are leftovers, some are purchased with stolen credit cards and resold there

shut lagoon
worn wave
#

Ofcourse

muted patio
#

Until they get shut down and make a new one

little osprey
#

in the process of debating which one is the better deal. Legion 5 does feature a 1660s instead of a 1650s but the HP system has an 11400.

#

similar pricing as well

worn wave
#

The kenovo

#

I personally would rather have the better GPU

little osprey
#

ah i guess it comes down entirely to what kind of games you play

shut lagoon
#

Or what your doing with the pc

worn wave
#

They both are fine tbh

#

About $40 difference

shut lagoon
#

imo

hallow glen
#

3070 newegg

shut lagoon
worn wave
#

Deactivate then use software to retrieve the key

shut lagoon
#

So I wouldn't be able to use the key on that computer anymore

muted patio
#

Yup

shut lagoon
#

But I could still do the watermark thing?

clear moat
#

@shut lagoon sometimes people breach a companies account because they can generate keys for their enterprise

#

Just buy a key

#

From Microsoft

little osprey
clear moat
#

Might not be cheaper but it's safer

little osprey
#

or just

#

dont buy a key

clear moat
#

Either or

#

You don't get anything crazy from buying the key

#

Just the ability to change a few things

little osprey
#

which can be changed with third party apps
ie wallpaper engine, translucent tb/taskbarx, rainmeter

fossil cedar
little osprey
fossil cedar
#

Fair

hallow glen
shut lagoon
#

What is the difference between an oem key and an online activation key

clear moat
#

1660 is a meme they shouldn't have even made it

little osprey
fossil cedar
hallow glen
#

k

#

what better sn550 or mp33

little osprey
#

i would go with mp33

fossil cedar
#

Whichever is cheaper

little osprey
#

mp33- 53 usd
Sn550- 65 usd iirc

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

mhm, was a great drive for 55 usd

hallow glen
#

mp33 was cheaper so i put it in

little osprey
#

850w would be a bit much for a 3070 and 11400, besides this would save some money.

potent prairie
#

Tryna decide if i should buy a RX 6800 XT from LTT. I'd hoped for a non $1100 card for my sister :/

#

but like

#

It's so close

little osprey
#

1100 usd for a 6800XT?

#

not worth it in the slightest.

potent prairie
#

oc model

#

that's retail

little osprey
#

doesn't change anything

potent prairie
#

ya, but hard to get retail prices these days

little osprey
#

youre buying it for msrp ?

potent prairie
#

LTT's verified gamer program

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

either way it's the users decision, once again just throwing out suggestions

vagrant olive
#

but thats just me

little osprey
#

how much are you paying for the card?

potent prairie
#

Oh, nvm

#

they sold out

#

I was like 250 in line

fossil cedar
round stream
#

would how powerful ur gpu affect the quality of a monitor

full inlet
#

whats the web address for the ltt drop?

#

they changed it

little osprey
round stream
#

yea my 1080p is blurryier than my retina macbook

little osprey
#

what resolution is your macbook?

#

and what display is your monitor?

round stream
#

its

#

uh

#

retina

#

1920x1080 monitor 3072 x 1920 macbook

wicked frigate
#

Guys is the ICUE H100i elite capellix good

clear moat
#

@wicked frigate I have the h100v2 and it works well. Can't say on the specifics tho. I changed the rad fans for ippc noctua

#

3000 rpm 120 mm

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx

vagrant olive
#

pretty pricey though, definitely more of an aesthetic choiec

#

the 360 is oos rn

stoic island
#

@hallow glen went and watched that bit, linus is not giving enough context, reasoning that Linus may say it performs worse is because the IF can't handle 1:1 with that fast ram, and the gains are even lower nowadays since IF can do 2000mhz much more frequently, making running the full 5100c19 with 2:1 or something much less attractive than going smth like 4000c14 on AMD.

#

4800c14 was also the meta ram oc according to forky, and not that unobtainable
https://youtu.be/Sl0sWfxJbps

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

@frank stirrup Zen 3 with agesa 1.2.0 makes it easier

frank stirrup
#

So basically beta bioses?

stoic island
#

It used to be you need goldest of gold samples on Zen 2

#

@frank stirrup no 1.2.0 released like a month ago

#

1.2.0.2 or whatever the one with the usb fix was isn't out yet

frank stirrup
#

Ahh I see

frank stirrup
#

Thats really nice then

stoic island
#

Like it's still not every chip

frank stirrup
#

Silver+?

#

Or gold+?

#

Bronze sample definitely wont right?

stoic island
#

Its like Zen 2 5% of chips, Zen 3 20% of chips, with agesa update, 40% of chips kinda thing

(Pulling numbers out my rear, don't quote me, but that's the impression I get)

#

And I refer to "gold sample" as just really good chip, I don't go by any standards

frank stirrup
#

Ahhh I see

#

Used to be like 5% or so that could go 2000flck

#

Maybe less

#

Idrk

stoic island
#

Probably less tbh

#

Most I saw only hit 1900, good amount couldn't even hit 1900

frank stirrup
#

And running flck at less speeds than ram hurts perf in many cases right

stoic island
#

Uncoupled or running 2:1 hurts performance

#

To a certain point

frank stirrup
#

Yeah

wicked frigate
#

Guys is the ek, artic, and Galahad best preforming aioa

#

Aios

little osprey
#

theyre pretty good performing aios

#

and by that i mean exceptional performance coming from all of them

wicked frigate
#

Is there better ones

little osprey
#

what cpu are you pairing ?

wicked frigate
#

Because I might go an but one today

#

5900x

#

I want the best one

little osprey
#

For a 5900x you dont need more than lets say a 240mm ek aio or galahad. LF2 is also an options

wicked frigate
#

But I want 360 cause I got the lian li 011

#

To look in ice

#

Nice

little osprey
#

alright then go with a 360 rad

#

its your choice afterall

wicked frigate
#

But which know

#

One

little osprey
#

whichever one that looks good to you, all of them will cool your 5900x efficiently

#

at this point aesthetics is the determining factor, well also cost but I assume you have that figured out

wicked frigate
#

Is there a such thing of best performing aio

#

Yah

stoic island
#

There's nothing that performs better than freezer ii in noise normalized GN testing

#

Galahad slightly edges it out at 100% fan speed iirc

little osprey
#

also a heck of a price deal to break for Lf2

stoic island
#

Wdym

little osprey
#

im talking about price to performance, its hard to beat that

stoic island
#

Freezer ii is like 100$ for 240mm

little osprey
#

probably should've worded it differently

wicked frigate
#

What’s after artic

stoic island
#

Ah I thought you meant price is deal breaker lmao

little osprey
#

thats my bad lol

wicked frigate
#

Wait what’s after galihad

stoic island
#

Ek-aio, galahad, freezer ii, all around the same

little osprey
stoic island
#

After that there's the rest of standard asetek

wicked frigate
#

What’s if2

#

Artic freezer

stoic island
#

Unless you like loud noises, liquid Freezer ii, galahad, ek-aio best options

#

Liquid Freezer ii

wicked frigate
#

No don’t want loud noise

little osprey
#

Espolan, do you prefer rgb ?

wicked frigate
#

Yah but I got ll120 fans

#

So I should be good right

little osprey
#

..

#

you'd be surpried about LL120's peformance lol

wicked frigate
#

Why

little osprey
#

for such expensive fans they really are..how should i put this? sub par at best.

wicked frigate
#

Is it that good

#

Are they that good

little osprey
#

simply due to the frame thickness, blade design, bearing quality, and overall price of the fans.

wicked frigate
#

I got 9

#

I got them for 100

little osprey
#

no they arent good, but they look good (to some people)

wicked frigate
#

3 pack

#

R 100

stoic island
#

Basically, 5$ fans with 25$ LEDs xD

little osprey
#

^

stoic island
#

That's my opinion

wicked frigate
#

I thought they were good

stoic island
#

Arctic P12's are op fans

little osprey
#

its just corsair being corsair, overpricing their products and people still buy them. probably because of their brand name

stoic island
little osprey
wicked frigate
#

But there performance isn’t good

little osprey
#

enermax tb silence advs are also nice

stoic island
#

Good performance in general, not really

wicked frigate
#

Your saying

little osprey
stoic island
#

Nidec gentle typhoon

#

:p

little osprey
#

gelid stellas

wicked frigate
#

What are best

#

Than

little osprey
#

enermax squas mm

#

you said you already had the LL120's right? are you sure you want to return them

wicked frigate
#

No

stoic island
#

Gelid stellas sketch me out for some reason lol

wicked frigate
#

Can’t anymore

stoic island
#

Literal best performing has to be between nidex GT and nf-a12x25 imo

little osprey
stoic island
#

Don't know them, I mean the scarcity

little osprey
#

ah yea they dont really have a big brand name do they

stoic island
#

(buying is sketch, I don't doubt the quality)

wicked frigate
#

Wait how do ll 120 look on artic

#

Looks

little osprey
#

id imagine not that great

stoic island
#

Who knows

little osprey
#

but looks are subjective so

stoic island
#

I'd think it'll be fine

#

Putting rgb fans on rads isn't a new thing yaknow

little osprey
#

clearly lol

wicked frigate
#

I mean cooling would be fine right

#

9 fans

#

Ll120

stoic island
#

Fine yes

wicked frigate
#

Or no

#

Nothing will overheat hopefully

stoic island
#

Won't overheat

wicked frigate
#

Ok

little osprey
stoic island
#

Just not best

#

@little osprey I mean pretty sure they already own the fans

wicked frigate
#

So not artic

#

Freezer

stoic island
#

When they own the fans, freezer ii just fine

little osprey
#

theres also ek basic as an option
it looks really good imo

wicked frigate
#

So would this look good freezer with artic

stoic island
little osprey
#

pair an ek basic aio with p12 cos along with an nr400
oh god its a dream come true

wicked frigate
#

Or ek with ll120

stoic island
#

Only saw igor's lab review on it

#

Not great

wicked frigate
#

Or Galahad

little osprey
stoic island
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

Just need more reviews

wicked frigate
#

Wait

#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

What

wicked frigate
#

Umm artic with 120 ll

#

Would they look good

#

What do you think

stoic island
#

I don't know

wicked frigate
#

What would I guess

stoic island
#

No one really fan swaps on freezer ii for rgb

#

But it should be just fine

wicked frigate
#

Why

stoic island
#

Who would

little osprey
#

because Lf2 is meant to be a non rgb option
thats why its so cheap
would be futile to put fans such as Ll120's on them lol

stoic island
#

If they want rgb they'd just get ek-aio or galahad lol

#

Ye

wicked frigate
#

So should I get that

stoic island
#

What

wicked frigate
#

Ek or Galahad

#

Over artic

stoic island
#

Look

#

A radiator is a radiator

wicked frigate
#

Yah

stoic island
#

The look is the same, it's a black block lol

wicked frigate
#

Trite

#

Ok

little osprey
#

honestly the thing you should be worried about is the pump design. it doesnt look too great to most people

stoic island
#

But vrm fan perf

#

:(

little osprey
#

wait what happened to that open tube aio? esibear was it ?

#

@wicked frigate take a look

stoic island
#

Excuse me what

little osprey
wicked frigate
#

Yah

little osprey
#

@stoic island kekw

stoic island
#

Open tube you say

#

What

#

You talking about fill port?

little osprey
#

not open tube, i meant refillable

#

sorry got it confused

stoic island
#

Oh that isn't too uncommon

wicked frigate
#

I am confused on which one to get lol

stoic island
#

Like I think galahad has a fill port

#

Or ek-aio, forgot

little osprey
# wicked frigate I am confused on which one to get lol

If you dont mind the non rgb pump design and the chonk vrm fan coming out of the LF2 go for that.
but if you want an RGB pump as well as some more well performing rgb fans the EK- AIO is youre route
also price should be play a factor in your decision.

wicked frigate
#

Wish I was an expert like u guys

little osprey
#

we're giving you the details and the same amount of info we do. its up to personal preference here

wicked frigate
#

I am replacing the fans either way

little osprey
#

LF2 then, if you dont mind the pump

stoic island
#

@little osprey ye I think it's ek-aio

#

With a fill port

little osprey
#

huh i really never noticed

#

i guess ive just never seen a fill port so close to the pump

wicked frigate
#

Wait will I need to replace the liquid

little osprey
#

no

stoic island
#

Fill port is just

little osprey
#

theyre closed loop so you wont need to do anything

stoic island
#

Unnecessary for you

little osprey
#

inb4 filling aio with mineral oil

stoic island
#

Lol

#

@little osprey inb4 recreating the roboclocker with a conventional clc

wicked frigate
#

Does rgb on the pump really matter

little osprey
#

does it matter to you?

wicked frigate
#

I mean I have 9 fans ram

#

Rgb

#

Idk

little osprey
#

its rgb after all. its up to personal preference

wicked frigate
#

How would the Galahad and ek look in a pc

little osprey
stoic island
#

Some day

#

Maybe evga will send you one if you pay them 30 grand >:D

little osprey
#

i wonder if i'll be alive for the day XOC will be mainstream enough to be done in your room

stoic island
#

Lol

little osprey
#

wont be needed huge ln2 tanks lol

stoic island
little osprey
#

quantum computers becoming mainstream :monkas

wicked frigate
#

What’s the stats on ek vs artic vs Galahad

little osprey
#

not by much tho, very similar in performance

stoic island
wicked frigate
#

Yah I wanted to see the performance difference

stoic island
#

Just look at the charts

wicked frigate
#

What time frame

little osprey
#

tech jesus

little osprey
stoic island
#

Any time frame

#

He goes through a ton of testing

#

And info

wicked frigate
#

Lower the better right

stoic island
#

Smaller number = cooler

little osprey
#

higher placement - cooler as well

wicked frigate
#

What’s red

#

And blue

little osprey
#

blue is idle temps and red is on load

stoic island
#

@wicked frigate just watch the video

little osprey
#

idle temps = useless

stoic island
#

You want data the video has data

wicked frigate
#

Ok I’ll watch it later

#

I am going to micro center

#

Rn

#

Wait guys what’s the warranty

little osprey
#

once again Espolan, if i were you i'd just go with the EK AIO 360mm and use the extra fans for a push pull kekw

wicked frigate
#

Where

#

If u damage the part or doesn’t work

stoic island
#

Bruh

#

Push pull isn't even that good

#

And warranty depends on the part

muted patio
#

Push pull pointless

wicked frigate
#

5900x

#

What’s push pull

little osprey
#

i mean what else are you gna do with the vardar fans

#

i suppose u could sell them..

stoic island
#

Lol

wicked frigate
#

Lol

#

@stoic island do u know the warranty

#

The name

#

Of it???

little osprey
#

the name of the warranty..?

wicked frigate
#

Umm

stoic island
#

6 years on freezer ii

little osprey
#

5 on ek aio iirc

wicked frigate
#

Where u damage the part or doesn’t work

#

On 5900x

little osprey
#

on the 5900x huh

#

you know a simple google search could have told you this

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

I’ll do that than

stoic island
#

Galahad

wicked frigate
#

Ok

stoic island
#

Yes

#

He does in that video

wicked frigate
#

Thx

stoic island
#

Read the title lol

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx guys