building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Okay I'll get you one now

[granite linden]

Thank you

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden do you want WiFi

[granite linden]

Yes

[sturdy stirrup]

Just in the back of the box, correct?

[granite linden]

Don't need bluetooth

[ripe wedge]

yeah so at the bottom of the case there should be a power supply

it has a switch on it

[granite linden]

But if there's an affordable one with both wifi and bluetooth then that'd be nice

[ripe wedge]

plug in the cable for it

[sturdy stirrup]

Yup

What’s the little eco switch?

[ripe wedge]

looks like this

[fossil cedar]

Yeah no problem

[ripe wedge]

it makes the fan not spin up until the psu hits a certain tempature. most likely 55C

just makes it even more quiet but I wouldnt use it

id rather have a cooler psu than a hot psu

[sturdy stirrup]

Display is hooked up. Don’t seem to be working.

[ripe wedge]

where do you have it plugged in

[earnest olive]

make sure it is plugged into the graphics card near the middle (vertically) of the back

[sturdy stirrup]

Never mind. Got it

Thank you for the help

[ripe wedge]

np

[earnest olive]

nice pic lol

[ripe wedge]

lol stole from google

[sturdy stirrup]

Should I use the glass case or leave the side off?

[ripe wedge]

glass side is fine

doesnt affect temps a whole lot

I mean maybe a bit but glass panel worth using

[earnest olive]

well

he bought a prebuilt

could be solid front with bad airflow

[ripe wedge]

true

whats the prebuilt? @sturdy stirrup

[earnest olive]

i would recommend installing hwinfo to monitor temps then test with glass on and glass off

my airflow is good enough that taking off the glass increases my temps

[ripe wedge]

same here

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZWVQD if you can get a 3060 ti thats great but probs can't fit into budget realistically unless you go intel or find a ti founders edition

[ripe wedge]

looks like glass front

[earnest olive]

indeed looks like a 4000d rgb

[ripe wedge]

temps might be better with side panel off but like Sips said download HWinfo 64 and monitor temps

ill send a link to hwinfo

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[sturdy stirrup]

Awesome. Thanks!

[ripe wedge]

embed large lol

[earnest olive]

having glass panel on is good for protecting the pc from dust/physical damage but if the pc is overheating it can be worth leaving off

[fossil cedar]

That embed took up like half my phone screen lol

[earnest olive]

prebuilts are not known for good thermal performance

[ripe wedge]

but the test you could do to see temps is downloading 3dmark on steam (theres a free demo) and it evenly stresses cpu and gpu

under a gaming like load

and run timespy

[earnest olive]

ehh he bought a prebuilt doubt he cares about 3dmark

just play a game

[ripe wedge]

true

[earnest olive]

and see temps in a game

[granite linden]

That's fine thanks brodie

[ripe wedge]

its actually a nice looking prebuilt tho

doesnt look like a prebuilt

ah

its an ABS prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

Glad to help

[granite linden]

You got any alternatives for the 5600x and 3060?

Just in case

[sturdy stirrup]

Has these little removable screens. Take off?

[earnest olive]

get an i5-11400

5600x bad

[ripe wedge]

yep

[fossil cedar]

I5 10400f/11400f b560 mobo same ram and a 3060 ti as you're saving about 150

[ripe wedge]

looks like the screws indented the mesh lol

[earnest olive]

what the heck happened to that dust filter

@sturdy stirrup it's a dust filter leave it

[ripe wedge]

you can take it off to clean it tho

[verbal quarry]

The 5600x isn't bad tho

[ripe wedge]

when it gets dirty

[sturdy stirrup]

Ah ok. I see one up top and one below power source

[granite linden]

I know it isn't bad but availability can be varied

[earnest olive]

i own 5600x

it's terrible value

i only bought it cause i had a spare b550 board lying around

i5-11400 identical gaming perf

[granite linden]

It won't be good value for another 3 years

[ripe wedge]

from a customer who decided to change their mind?

[granite linden]

So technically good value lol

[earnest olive]

no jake

bundled with a 3070

couldn't sell it

[ripe wedge]

ahhh yeah

[earnest olive]

so i decided to use it

in the end i will make my money back flipping it

[ripe wedge]

I kinda wanna get an 11500

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/73sy2V

[ripe wedge]

for a SFF build with my 2070s

[verbal quarry]

I was told the 5800x was bad value for performance

Is that true?

[earnest olive]

ryzen 5000 in general is bad for gaming now

for productivity 5900x 5950x good

[verbal quarry]

Well I got a rog strix b550-f

[earnest olive]

can you return it lol

[verbal quarry]

Nope

But imma stick with amd

[earnest olive]

such an expensive board

[verbal quarry]

Yep

[granite linden]

Eh

Enthusiast shouldn't mind

[verbal quarry]

I got it at discount tho

[earnest olive]

you can max out a 5950X OC on a much cheaper board

[verbal quarry]

189

[granite linden]

They've been paying these prices for a while

[fossil cedar]

Crap forgot to put in 3060 ti to that list 1 sec

[earnest olive]

i mean i've spent like $400 on rgb i can't really talk

[verbal quarry]

Good lord

I spent $400 for most of my pc

[full inlet]

ikr

[verbal quarry]

I got the psu,ram, and storage for that amount

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XbcdTJ

[verbal quarry]

That's insane

[granite linden]

Oh alright

[earnest olive]

what can i say

[verbal quarry]

Is the 3060ti fe really 500?

[earnest olive]

pwetty pc make dopamine hit

neuron activation

[fossil cedar]

No but i put in a realistic price for any 3060 ti

[verbal quarry]

Gotcha

Freaked me out for a sec xD

[rich helm]

increase the price by 100

[earnest olive]

realistic price for 3060ti?

[verbal quarry]

I thought I was about to buy a 3060ti and not a 3070 lmao

[rich helm]

Strix 3060ti go brrrrr

[earnest olive]

they going for like 700 on retailers

[ripe wedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGd3QD what ya think about this SFF pc I could build

[fossil cedar]

Ik but no more budget

[fossil cedar]

Semi realistic

[earnest olive]

no b560 itx?

[verbal quarry]

Hopefully he can snag it on bestbuy

[fossil cedar]

That was cheapest b560 theres like 13 in stock

[ripe wedge]

I mean price on b560 itx is really high I think a z490 I would be better

oh wait

its asrock

so nah

[earnest olive]

was replying to jake not you

[fossil cedar]

Ahh woops

[earnest olive]

ooof asrock intel board

[rich helm]

Ehh unless you really want to look inside case just go nr200 and get a better cooler

[ripe wedge]

yeah id rather pay more than buy an Asrock board lol

[earnest olive]

asrock hates intel for some reason

who knows

they do their best to cripple their intel boards it seems

[ripe wedge]

that cooler is good enough for it

[rich helm]

For much cheaper

[earnest olive]

which sucks because they make some really good AMD boards

[ripe wedge]

and looks good

[rich helm]

Yeah but costs 80 bucks lol

Just slap se224xt

[ripe wedge]

but like

[rich helm]

Or vetroo

[ripe wedge]

it looks so cute

[earnest olive]

se-224-xt in sff case?

lol

good luck with that

[rich helm]

Yee I have 13

[fossil cedar]

Now way lol

[earnest olive]

do you know what sff means

[rich helm]

Yes

[earnest olive]

if you can fit an se-224-xt in there then it's not sff

[rich helm]

I’ve searched it up I have image proof

Fits in nr200

Without glass

Tho

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[earnest olive]

LOL

"without glass"

alright

[fossil cedar]

Then it doesn't fit 🤦

[rich helm]

Still has the mesh side panel

[earnest olive]

also nr200 is not really sff

[rich helm]

You just can’t do the tempered glas one

[ripe wedge]

I mean

its still small

[granite linden]

No need to be so technical lol

[ripe wedge]

its the only case small enough I could fit my 2070S in I think

sff

[earnest olive]

yeah thats a triple fan 2070S

[ripe wedge]

also looks good

[earnest olive]

i think there's a 2070S mini but it's super expensive

[ripe wedge]

yea

also bad

my friend had a zotac 2070s 2 fan and temps were awful

lol

[earnest olive]

fans go brrr

[verbal quarry]

Do you know aios?

[earnest olive]

sure

[verbal quarry]

I got a rosewill rgb 240 aio

For Christmas

Wanna see if it's worth

[ripe wedge]

I mean it will work

[verbal quarry]

True

[earnest olive]

aios are mostly the same under the hood

differences are largely the fans

almost all aios are asetek pumps lol

[verbal quarry]

True

The only difference I see tho

[earnest olive]

msi mag coreliquid might be one of the only aios that isn't

[verbal quarry]

Is the pump sits in the rad fins

[muted patio]

Fans and rads

[earnest olive]

oh interesting so it's like the coreliquid then

[verbal quarry]

Right behind the center of one of the fans

Yea

My only concern is will it blow up

Because its so cheap

[ripe wedge]

again

it should be fine

[earnest olive]

ummmm what

i am in california

[ripe wedge]

lol

[verbal quarry]

Lmao

Vpn?

[earnest olive]

well time to remove that with inspect element so i can read the content

[granite linden]

Vpn?

LOL

[earnest olive]

i am connected to a vpn yes but it's still in california

i am in my gf's dorm and the school network blocks connections to mining pools

[granite linden]

That's the opposite of a point of a vpn

[earnest olive]

so i just mine on vpn

[verbal quarry]

Nice

[earnest olive]

if i disconnect vpn it drops the pool

[ripe wedge]

how much have ya mined so far

[verbal quarry]

How does mining even work?

[earnest olive]

let me check

$1300

[ripe wedge]

sheesh

[verbal quarry]

Good lord

[earnest olive]

on my current config it's like $40/day

[verbal quarry]

That is hella profit

[earnest olive]

but it took around $4500 investment to get here

[verbal quarry]

Makes me wanna try it 🤔

[earnest olive]

what gpu you got

[ripe wedge]

I could continue mining on my card but I dont have thermal pads on the backplate for vram

[verbal quarry]

3070 fe

And a 550 lmao

[topaz zinc]

can i gpu mine on rtx 2060

[earnest olive]

good for around $200/month revenue and -$20/month electricity cost

rtx 2060 will be less profitable but still doable

[ripe wedge]

not extremely profitable

yeah

[topaz zinc]

im 14 and just wanna make some money on the side

[earnest olive]

i get $40/day with 3080 and 4 3070s

[topaz zinc]

ok

[earnest olive]

hmm if you're 14 i'm not sure how taxes will work

mining is taxable

[ripe wedge]

dont think its taxed until its pulled out right?

[topaz zinc]

my dads gonna do it

[ripe wedge]

ah then its fine

[topaz zinc]

i just have the rig

[rich helm]

Nope, taxes on Bitcoin

[earnest olive]

no you can get taxed even if you don't sell

[granite linden]

If he's in the US he can make under a certain amount so it isn't counted as an income

Therefore not exactly taxed

[rich helm]

Yep 6000 dollars

[topaz zinc]

im in us

[ripe wedge]

yeah 600 usd

[earnest olive]

if the value of your crypto goes up while you're holding it then it's considered capital gain and needs to be reported on schedule C

[ripe wedge]

not 6000

[earnest olive]

the flip side is that if the value sinks you can claim it as a loss

yeah an rtx 2060 is not gonna make enough money to actually exceed standard deduction but idk how filing is gonna work

[topaz zinc]

i wanna make maybe $80 a month

max

[rich helm]

Yeah probably not

[topaz zinc]

20 least

i can get a job in 2 years

[rich helm]

Probably 2 bucks a day

[topaz zinc]

soo

[earnest olive]

2060 can do 80/month easily

[topaz zinc]

ok

[rich helm]

Mining constantly

[earnest olive]

properly tuned and mining 24/7

[topaz zinc]

i also have 32 gb ram

[earnest olive]

are your parents going to be cool with the extra power draw though lol

ram does not matter

cpu does not matter

people build mining rigs with 11 year old laptop cpu and 2gb ddr3

[verbal quarry]

How much do you think I can mine on a gtx 550 daily?

[ripe wedge]

also you will lose gaming perf while mining

[earnest olive]

0

[verbal quarry]

Like nothing?

Yea lol

[ripe wedge]

negative money

[earnest olive]

you can't mine on that

not enough vram to generate the DAG

[verbal quarry]

Gotcha

[topaz zinc]

if i start turining of my room lights then there wont be a difference

[earnest olive]

there absolutely will lol

[marble seal]

also be prepared for very hot room

[topaz zinc]

there are 3 ac vents in my room

its already a hot room

[rich helm]

That boi be pulling 120 watts constantly

[vague oracle]

Be prepared for an even hotter room

[topaz zinc]

i only own shorts and tee shirts

[earnest olive]

a tuned 2060 consumes around 80W mining that's $14/month

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but they'll be under the tax limit, the 2060 only makes like 2$ a day or so if it's tuned right

[earnest olive]

at cali electricity prices anyways

[verbal quarry]

Yea no im not looking to sweat my soul out of my body

[earnest olive]

no it's more than $2

a bit more than $3/day tuned properly

[topaz zinc]

im gonna mine like 3-4 hours a day

max 5

[earnest olive]

yeah nah you are not gonna make anything then

[rich helm]

Oof

Nvm no profit

[vague oracle]

Literally only a couple cents a day

[topaz zinc]

what about 10 hours

[earnest olive]

$8-10/month

[ripe wedge]

kek

[earnest olive]

at that point just go mow a lawn

[topaz zinc]

i already

[vague oracle]

LMAO

[earnest olive]

all 4 of my rigs are running 24/7

[topaz zinc]

of dang

oof

[fossil cedar]

Just a v expensive space heater

[earnest olive]

pay an extra $120/month electricity

[rich helm]

What cards?

[verbal quarry]

Worth?

[topaz zinc]

so no profit

[earnest olive]

3080 + 4 3070s

[topaz zinc]

ill losse

money

[rich helm]

For 4 rigs

?

[topaz zinc]

i might not do it

[earnest olive]

yeah

[rich helm]

Like 1 card per rig

[earnest olive]

i'm using gaming hardware instead of trying to build the most anemic rigs possible to save money

[topaz zinc]

could i mine on a 580 though

[earnest olive]

i don't mind investing more right now to sell later

580 8gb yes, 580 4gb no

[rich helm]

That’s smart

[earnest olive]

minimum requirement to mine eth is 4.89gb vram

[fossil cedar]

Sorry my b €2.20 ish a day last time i checked so probs 3 usd yeah

[vague oracle]

I might as well give mining a shot for the hell of it since my rtx 2070 can’t play games on it well since it’s artifacting and my rx480 stops outputting video

[topaz zinc]

im probably gonna invest in stocks

[still roost]

AlecFencer#2894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

if it's artifacting you might get invalid shares

artifacting is often vram issues i think

and mining is 100% reliant on the vram

[verbal quarry]

I'm already invested in stocks

[vague oracle]

It’s been working somewhat well mining but not well gaming

[fossil cedar]

You wont loose money on mining it'll just be slowish

[verbal quarry]

I got like 1k worth in shares

[topaz zinc]

ill try for a month

[vague oracle]

I used it to mine a couple months ago but gave up because I didn’t have time to set up good conditions

[topaz zinc]

if my profit is low then im gonna invest

[vague oracle]

And this time I have a walk in fridge in my place so temps will be nice and cool

[earnest olive]

your profit will be basically nothing mining on a 2060 for 3-4 hours a day

[fossil cedar]

Well you're profit will be proportionalarly to how much you mine

[earnest olive]

24/7 you will at least see some decent profit

[vague oracle]

Could I mix an rx480 and rtx 2070 in a mining rig?

Both have 8Gb vram

[earnest olive]

yeah

as long as it fits into your board

[leaden heron]

hey guys, i recently did a build with the asrock b560m pro4, and i cant manage to get the line in on either the back or the front panel to work
any suggestions?

[topaz zinc]

could i just put a cheap gpu in an egpu box and mine of my 2060 and like say a gt 1030

[leaden heron]

audio out works perfectly fine though

[earnest olive]

gt 1030 cannot mine

and egpu automatically makes it not cheap

[topaz zinc]

gt 1030 6gb

[vague oracle]

Do you have the cables plugged into the right ports @leaden heron

[earnest olive]

there is no such thing as a 1030 6gb

[rich helm]

That doesn’t exist

[vague oracle]

Check your motherboards manual to make sure

[topaz zinc]

what about rx 580

[leaden heron]

yessir

[earnest olive]

rx 580 is outdated as a mining card

[topaz zinc]

doesnt that use one 6 pin?

[leaden heron]

the front panel is a combo jack

[earnest olive]

efficiency is really low

[vague oracle]

^

[topaz zinc]

i can spend like 200 max on gpu

[vague oracle]

I’m just using my 480 to mess around with

You’re not finding a mining card for under 200

[fossil cedar]

If you're only mining like 5 hours a day all you gonna make is like 50c a day

[rich helm]

Ahh yes investing

[earnest olive]

rx 580 gets 30 mh/s at 150W

my laptop gets 65.25 mh/s at 115W

[fossil cedar]

You cant get fa for that

[vague oracle]

Unless you somehow lowball some moron, and he accepts the offer

[rich helm]

Rip my 3060ti only gets 60mhs

[topaz zinc]

probably can

[earnest olive]

yeah $200 literally cannot purchase any gpu capable of mining

1050tis cost more than $200 now

saw a 1050ti go for 240 today

[topaz zinc]

after stock comes back to normal

[earnest olive]

and a 1050ti cannot mine

stock coming back to normal will be long after mining crashes

[topaz zinc]

if i sink my hands in my bros money i have $300 now

lol

[earnest olive]

if you aren't going to mine 24/7 just forget about it

[rich helm]

Well I’m in a queue to get some 3060ti but gonna be a min

[vague oracle]

The only way the stock will go back to normal is when mining crashes

[earnest olive]

also $300 still doesn't buy a gpu that can mine

gtx 1060 6gb is more than $300 now

rx 580 8gb is more than $400 now

[vague oracle]

You’re looking $6-700 I think

[fossil cedar]

I can get 62.5mhs with screen off and +1350 mem(could get to 1400 but sometimes the miner didn't like) and like 130w or something

[earnest olive]

tune your core clock

[rich helm]

Oh I should probably try higher mem clocks

[earnest olive]

both of my 3070s get 62.7 mh/s at +1350 mem with 115W

[rich helm]

I only do +1200

[earnest olive]

because i have them locked to 1110mhz on a flattened v/f curve

you are more than likely wasting the last 15 watts running core clock too high

[fossil cedar]

Try higher and make your core clock -502 max without changing voltage

[earnest olive]

absolutely not

without changing voltage is why you're using 130W

[vague oracle]

Is running a PC for mining in a fridge a bad idea?

[earnest olive]

yes

two reasons

1. condensation

[vague oracle]

I have a walk in fridge that I was thinking of using to keep temps cool

Humidity?

[earnest olive]

2. fridge is not designed to remove heat from an active heat source

LTT did a video building a pc in a fridge

the fridge was quickly overwhelmed

[vague oracle]

But was it a walk in fridge the size of a large closet?

[fossil cedar]

Well i haven't tried lower tbh it's already at 50% which is fine for me because I'm just eyeballing the electricity to my parents and the extra 15w isn't that much

[vague oracle]

Screw it, I have the extra parts lying around imma do it just to mess around😂

[earnest olive]

i mean if you are actively generating heat

you run the risk of spoiling the food increasing the ambient temp by a few degrees

15W is a lot extra when you're running it 24/7

[fossil cedar]

And condensation makes 🔥

[earnest olive]

this is all it takes

but this is a laptop chip

my desktop gpus have had more success at 1110mhz

laptop takes 975mhz core and +1500 vram

[fossil cedar]

It's like 6c a day is all I'd he loosing

[earnest olive]

unnecessary heat, fan wear, and environmental impact

[fossil cedar]

Well don't wanna run +1500 because gigabyte 3070 no thermal pads

[earnest olive]

my desktop gpus can't do +1500

i can set it but it'll get enough invalid shares to be less profitable than +1350

only my laptop can do +1500

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

Yeah i do 1350

[earnest olive]

all have samsung gddr6

[fossil cedar]

Idk mb I'll tune another time but I'm boutta sleep now, I'll keep in mind tho, and also the extra few degrees it's nice because it's cold in Ireland and heats my room

[earnest olive]

opposite for me lol

it's cali my room quickly becomes a broiler

[jaunty nacelle]

gotta love california

[cold imp]

How much would a custom hardline loop for CPU and GPU cost

Bend-your-own btw if that makes a difference

[tough kettle]

mine does 62 MH/s at +1300 mem with 113w

[rich helm]

depends, with ek like 800+ with barrow and cheaper components idk how much cheaper

[cold imp]

Yeah I mean like good parts

So EK sure

[stoic island]

uh

yea

800+ tbh

[cold imp]

Ok

Would I have to buy some sort of GPU distro block

[stoic island]

let's see

[rich helm]

800 including gpu block

[cold imp]

Ok

[rich helm]

what gpu

[cold imp]

2070 Armor

[tough kettle]

Ampere next next
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gQBoGUMHJmeqkj0_bgCtNJBZGZlDaF7PI9lm-7cYuPE/https/cdn.videocardz.com/1/2021/04/NVIDIA-DPU-GPU-CPU-Roadmap-2020-2025.jpg?width=1565&height=911

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[cold imp]

[rich helm]

what case

[cold imp]

P400A
But honestly if I’m gonna buy a hardline block I’m gonna be in a P500

[stoic island]

gpu block 200, cpu block 200, pump res 100, fittings prob 50, tubing 50, rad 100, plus like fans 100

[cold imp]

So P500A

[stoic island]

800$ total

[cold imp]

Ok

[stoic island]

around there

that's assuming single 360 rad

add another 200$ if you want double 360 or smth

fans can be cheaper tho

now that I think about it 100$ for 3 sounds too much

[cold imp]

Would it be weird to do 360+240

[stoic island]

meh

not that weird but

eh

[cold imp]

Either single or double

[rich helm]

with ek and a byski gpu block its 700

@cold imp

[stoic island]

it's much cheaper with like bykski full kit

or like heatkiller

[rich helm]

jk its 800

that was 550 euros

[stoic island]

or whatever the other one was called on ppcs

barrow

that's the one

[cold imp]

Ok

But EK is like the good stuff right

[muted patio]

yes

[cold imp]

Like in the watercooling world

[muted patio]

So is bykski and barrow tho

[cold imp]

Ok

[earnest olive]

@tough kettle they prob just don't want to leak the names

iirc codename for rtx 4000 is lovelace

[desert gulch]

so what drive in a 1tb capacity is comparable to a pilot e?

[earnest olive]

is something wrong with pilot-e

[desert gulch]

nah

just wondering what is compares to

what it competes with

[rich helm]

Sn750

[desert gulch]

hmm

thats pretty pog

[tough kettle]

probably

[rich helm]

Can’t be worse than big navi

[earnest olive]

mushkin pilot-e 1tb
seq read: 3500
seq write: 3000
rand read: 331k iops
rand write: 353k iops

wd sn750 1tb
seq read: 3470
seq write: 3000
rand read: 515k iops
rand write: 560k iops

the sn750 is still significantly better

[desert gulch]

hmm

[earnest olive]

but for the price pilot-e is pog

[desert gulch]

yea

[earnest olive]

better than team mp34

[desert gulch]

is it close to 970 evo area?

[earnest olive]

yeah 970 evo loses to sn750

[desert gulch]

sad

[earnest olive]

970 evo 1tb
seq read: 3500
seq write: 2500
rand read: 500k iops
rand write: 480k iops

[desert gulch]

oof

and way overpriced

[earnest olive]

wd sn550 1tb
seq read: 2400
seq write: 1750
rand read: 410k iops
rand write: 405k iops

[obsidian wigeon]

sn750 sucks at randoms tho

[earnest olive]

umm

[obsidian wigeon]

it's as fast as mx500 for small files

[desert gulch]

sad

[earnest olive]

it has the best specs for randoms out of any of the drives listed

[obsidian wigeon]

No, I've looked at the review tom's hw made

[rich helm]

I don’t even remember what I have in my build I think it’s a 970 evo 500gb I got for 50 bucks

[obsidian wigeon]

In most cases tho it's speedy

This is the curve

[rich helm]

No mushkin pilot e on that graph disapprove

[jagged ember]

its too good man

the chart would not work if pilot e was on there

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

tfw pilot e doesn't exist in thailand

so sn750 is best value nvme here

[jagged ember]

sadge

sn750 still is nice tho

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[earnest olive]

i have an hp ex920

[obsidian wigeon]

perf is similar to 970 evo

which is decent enough

[earnest olive]

considering i was brand new to pcs when i bought it i didn't do too badly

[jagged ember]

i have a garbo ssd lmao

[earnest olive]

decent drive

for my first build i made some decent decisions

[jagged ember]

i was new to pc and didnt know it was garbage

[obsidian wigeon]

i use wd green kek

[earnest olive]

a few of my decisions were bad

but it could have been worse

at the time b550 did not exist so board is ok

c18 ram is oof

although i did get it for a nice price

and sold it later for more than i bought it for

case is oof

[jagged ember]

yeah, i'm still running that b450 lol

except it is a mortar max

[earnest olive]

too bad i bought msi

i ended up selling it because i was so sick of dragon center

[jagged ember]

I feel that lol

i just decide to never use it

[earnest olive]

i got $138 for it

[jagged ember]

whoa

[earnest olive]

and i bought b550 aorus elite for $150

best upgrade ever

[desert gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-gif-18549684

[jagged ember]

wtf thats crazy

[earnest olive]

?

it was a brand new 1080ti for $415

[jagged ember]

zOTaC

[earnest olive]

that was one of the best decisions

lol

[fiery basin]

Just got my zotac 3070 lol

[jagged ember]

it's just a meme

[desert gulch]

ZOTAC

[earnest olive]

i was looking at 5700XTs that were more expensive than that

and then i saw this and i was like O_O

[desert gulch]

oh like the nitro?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[desert gulch]

my pulse was like 390

so pog price

[earnest olive]

the only good thing about that case was that

since it was solid front it trapped noise from the dual fan gpu lol

[desert gulch]

and price

[earnest olive]

i oced it to 370 watts

[desert gulch]

better than h510 price

and way better perf

[earnest olive]

it's the 275r non airflow though

[desert gulch]

ohh

[earnest olive]

so it's pretty meme tier

[desert gulch]

still prolly better than h510

[earnest olive]

in the summer i took off the front plastic

so it was just the mesh dust filter

and my gpu temp dropped by 7C

[desert gulch]

damn

[earnest olive]

that zotac 1080ti was actually a good bin though

was almost benching as high as an rtx 2080

[rich helm]

I uninstalled dragon center lol

[solid dust]

Could anyone rate my build? I’d appreciate any recommendations especially on a decent cooler. I’m just not sure what’s good https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lobstah4Supah/saved/pTQPFT

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08F21X2VP?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=jayz05-20&linkId=e424d7801f77e0328192cb8339e07565&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

thats a good cooler

for cheaper

[desert gulch]

nah nah nah dont reccomend that for a 11600k

[frank stirrup]

It should get the job done honestly its a 6 core cpu

[earnest olive]

replace ssd with mushkin pilot-e

[desert gulch]

no not at all

[earnest olive]

you underestimate intel 6 cores

[frank stirrup]

its already a mushkin pilot e

[desert gulch]

especially if they oc

[earnest olive]

no?

[desert gulch]

which im guessing they will

[earnest olive]

it's mushkin enhanced helix-l

[desert gulch]

since its a k

[frank stirrup]

its a helix e

i see

[desert gulch]

would you put a v5 on a 11600k?

[earnest olive]

for gaming fuma 2 is ok

for non gaming i would go 360mm aio minimum

[desert gulch]

what about that v5?

that was reccomended?

[earnest olive]

lol

that would be like trying to cool a ryzen 5 3600 by spitting on it

[desert gulch]

xD

[frank stirrup]

intel spits out that much heat?!

[solid dust]

Wait so @earnest olive replace with a mushkin pilot E?

[desert gulch]

yeah, especially with an oc

[frank stirrup]

mushkin pilot e way better

[earnest olive]

an 11600K can be pushed to 240W

maybe more

[desert gulch]

yup

[frank stirrup]

oh wow

[desert gulch]

for like 11400f v5 is prolly ok

but for a 11600k its a no go o

[earnest olive]

i pushed a 10700K to 300W and that was only on 1.35V

[frank stirrup]

oh btw I got my 3600x running at 4.375 GHZ all core at 1.26V

rock steady

[earnest olive]

afk gf needs help dyeing hair lol

[frank stirrup]

i c

[modern glen]

How is this build for the price? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YRvcz7
It is my current build I have had an upgraded over the past years.

[frank stirrup]

i mean if you already have it no real point in asking is there?

[severe axle]

that aio is not $70

[modern glen]

I got it for $70

Open box on ebay for $70

[frank stirrup]

in my opinion the rig isnt great for the price. especially the storage

[modern glen]

everything but the 970 evo plus is old

[frank stirrup]

samsung drives are very overpriced tbh

[solid dust]

Is the Arctic Cooler 50 a good cpu cooler? For an i5 11600

[frank stirrup]

also the hard disks in ur system arent great

[frank frost]

I have the 3070 version of that gpu and the cooler is amazing

[modern glen]

the hard drives were 10 years old from 2 old computers that my dad had in the attic

[solid dust]

Or the master air MA612 stealth?

[modern glen]

Yeah the gpu always runs cool, but the 3070 has a better one

I think the 3060 ti ftw3 is more like a 3070 xc ultra

cooler wise

[frank stirrup]

a very capable system for sure just not great for that price

[frank stirrup]

that doesnt make it even nearly as good as a 3070 tho

[frank frost]

Ohh I see

Thought it was the same cooler

[modern glen]

yeah not as good

[frank frost]

Is the 3070 one the same of the 3080 one?

[modern glen]

yeah the same cooler

[frank frost]

Ah

I would pick a cheaper case though

[desert gulch]

Remember that times have changed

[frank frost]

The cpu is a pretty normal price for that cpu

[frank frost]

Exactly

[desert gulch]

B560 and 10400f combo didn't used to exist

So r5 3600 was better value

[frank stirrup]

he has the prices next to the items

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[modern glen]

the cpu performs great for me

[desert gulch]

That's his build he's had for ahwile

[frank frost]

It's a great cpu

[frank stirrup]

yeah but he asked how it is right now for the price

[desert gulch]

Well idk market has def changed

[frank frost]

Ohh sorry didn't read lol thought he was building it atm

[frank stirrup]

and the storage situation isnt great tbh

[frank stirrup]

he isnt building. hes asking how it if for the price now

[frank frost]

Yeah read it now

This is mine https://pcpartpicker.com/b/jT7TwP

[frank stirrup]

also @desert gulch everything in his pc - the graphics card just isnt worth 1000 dollars tbh

[frank frost]

Bought everything expect monitor, gpu and sn550 between oct and dic last year

[frank stirrup]

a 212 on a 5600X is not a great idea

[frank frost]

Gpu on Jan 28th monitor and ssd on march

[frank stirrup]

also the mushkin pilot e is way better when it comes to price to perf than the 970 evo

[frank frost]

Yeah when I'm on 100% load it goes up to 73©

When I get another job I'll upgrade the cooler and get a second identical kit of ram

[frank stirrup]

the V5 is a much better cooler at about the same price

by vetroo

[frank frost]

I'm going to buy the 240mm Capellix

[frank stirrup]

ahh nice

[frank frost]

I already have that though since dic

I was using a 2070 2 fan gigabyte card that my friend let me use till I got my XC3 ultra 3070

[frank stirrup]

the V5 is a cpu cooler

not a gpu

[frank frost]

And well, I just bought the Samsung bc Its a brand that I trust and I'm used to. I know that there's a lot more cheaper and even better ones in perf. But I don't need stupid fast perf

[frank frost]

I know lol

I just mentioned my gpu situation

[frank frost]

I replied to your comment about the cooler with "I already bought that on dic"

The 212

[frank stirrup]

dic?

[jagged ember]

for how much ?

[frank frost]

December sorry I mainly speak Spanish and Dic is diciembre lol

[frank frost]

What? The 212?

[jagged ember]

Yep

[frank frost]

Or the gpu

[jagged ember]

212

[frank frost]

Like 35$ it's on here https://pcpartpicker.com/b/jT7TwP

[jagged ember]

Mmm

Woulda gone for a gammaxx 400 for basically same price

Performs better

[frank stirrup]

or a vetroo V5

[frank frost]

Yeah I just really didn't read too much, I saw that it was decent and didn't want to use the stock one

[jagged ember]

But hey, you already got the 212

So it's fine

[frank frost]

Yeah 5 months lol

[jagged ember]

No returns now lol

[frank frost]

I was already thinking about an aio by then but didn't have the budget

So I just bought a cheap air cooler for a couple of months

[jagged ember]

But vetroo v5, gammax 400 or se xt 400 or something are all good alternatives for that

[frank frost]

I'll probably start a new job next month

[granite barn]

My cousins pc keeps turning off and on

Can someone help m e

[frank frost]

So I'll get an 240mm Capellix then

[frank stirrup]

ask in #windows-ios

[jagged ember]

Why not a arctic freezer aio?

[frank frost]

I know artic performs better

[jagged ember]

They're pretty good for the price

[frank frost]

But I just prefer corsairs aesthetic lol

[jagged ember]

Mm

Fair enough

[frank frost]

Yeah it's stupid ik

What are good cable extensions?

Im looking to get just 8pin pcie and mobo 24pin

[modern glen]

what is your psu?

[frank frost]

That's the other thing I'm getting next

[modern glen]

nvm

looked at your part list

[frank frost]

Yeah RMx 750

I don't really want full cables just extensions

Like the ones cable mod makes

[modern glen]

yeah i'm not really sure about cable extensions actually

[frank frost]

Basically the only things I'm thinking of upgrading are cpu cooling, RAM (an identical kit as mine) and extensions.

[modern glen]

you're going to get the 240mm elite cappelix?

[frank frost]

Later along the line probably get a good set of bookshelf speakers, and maybe get a Sennheiser 6xx

[frank frost]

Yeah

[modern glen]

thats the one I have

[desert gulch]

Asiahorse makes some well priced cable extensions imo

[modern glen]

Its pretty good

[desert gulch]

They're in amazon

[frank frost]

Are they good quality? I don't really know much about them just that they look a lot better than stock lol

They're pretty cheap

[desert gulch]

I mean for the price I'd say they are p decent

[frank frost]

Yeah they look good

[desert gulch]

With amazon you can always return aswell

If you don't like them

[frank frost]

The black grey kit looks nice

[desert gulch]

Ye

I'm thinking of getting a red/black kit at some point

[frank frost]

Yeah those as well

I'm kinda torn between black/white, black/gray and black/red lol

I'll probably get the black white ones

I wonder if they sell bridged 8pin cables

Cable mod sells them but only directly from their website and they cost like 40$ for each cable

While this kit costs less than 35

[solid dust]

Is this a decent cooler or nah for an i5 11600k https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KJyqqs/enermax-ets-t50-axe-argb-7132-cfm-cpu-cooler-ets-t50a-w-argb

[earnest olive]

i used that on an i5-10400 for the looks

it'll do alright as long as you stick to gaming

productivity workloads it might struggle a bit

depending on the workload

and how much it has been OCed

[frank frost]

I believe the scythe fuma 2 is much better

[earnest olive]

yeah fuma 2 is much better price/performance but if he's looking at that cooler he's probably going for the looks

i got it for my gf's white and pink build

[frank frost]

Ah yeah

[earnest olive]

fuma 2 would not work there

[frank frost]

Ye the fuma doesn't look that nice haha

[earnest olive]

it looks alright for a black/non-themed build

[halcyon swallow]

212 hyper evo?

Idk

[frank frost]

At that price, why not just get a aio?

[earnest olive]

never ever ever recommend the 212 ever again

[frank frost]

Yeah they almost killed me for it and I bought it 6 months ago lol

[halcyon swallow]

What’s wrong with it?

Wtf

How

[frank frost]

Idk

[earnest olive]

that price is only gonna get you a 120 aio

and well

that enermax cooler is gonna be better than a 120 aio

212 is just bad

there are much better coolers for cheaper

[halcyon swallow]

Wow dam

[frank frost]

You can get a basic ek aio for 90

[earnest olive]

id-cooling se-224-xt absolutely embarrasses it and can be found for $30

[frank frost]

The 240mm

[earnest olive]

gammaxx 400 beats it and can be found for $20

[frank frost]

But it only comes in black

[halcyon swallow]

I mean I do get around 50c and 55c when playing games on my i5 10400f

[earnest olive]

90 and 65 are different price classes lol

dude

i put a $30 se-224-xt on a 10400F

with 17C ambient temperature

[halcyon swallow]

Wtf

[earnest olive]

it was 18C idle and 40C in full synthetic all core load

AVX workload

also comes with enough thermal paste for multiple applications while 212 bundles barely enough for 1

also quieter than the 212

would know i used to have a 212

also IMO se-224-xt black looks better than 212 black

[frank frost]

My 5600x runs pretty hot on idle like 42-45°

[earnest olive]

5600x is just a hot chip

[frank frost]

That's why I'm getting a aio

[earnest olive]

aio won't fix your idle temps

sorry to say

[halcyon swallow]

What’s the link to the heatsink?

[earnest olive]

my 5600x idles at 50C with 360mm aio and 8 case fans

mesh case

[frank frost]

And well sometimes when I'm gaming it goes to about 73

[earnest olive]

5600x just runs absurdly hot

[frank frost]

How about on load?

[frank frost]

Lol how?

[earnest olive]

what kind of load

prime95 small ffts avx it shoots right up to 90C

[frank frost]

Like gaming

[earnest olive]

i only play league of legends and genshin impact

[frank frost]

Sorry I didn't specify

[earnest olive]

50-55C in those games

[frank frost]

I mean also my ambient room temp is high like 30°C

[earnest olive]

i'm in cali

sometimes it's over 40C in my room

lol

[frank frost]

Ahh that's why lol

[earnest olive]

especially when i had a 3080 and 3070 running at the same time in it

toasty af

doesn't get as hot anymore after removing the 3080

[frank frost]

Over here during the middle of the day it goes aup to 90-95°F

[modern glen]

My ryzen 5 3600 is 33c idle using 240mm aio

[frank frost]

But I only play during night bc of work

That's why I said only 30°C

[earnest olive]

my old 3600x idled at 22C under the same aio

as my 5600x idling at 50C

alright i am going to shower now bye

[frank frost]

How are u having a higher temp using an aio vs me on a crappy air cooler?

[frank frost]

Okay

[earnest olive]

average is more like 34C but it spikes to 50 often

[frank frost]

Ohhh

Mine is 45-53 all the time

[solid dust]

Is this a decent build for gaming? I would stream a little bit on the sides, but I would always have other tabs open on a second monitor while gaming. Thanks for any inputs! https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lobstah4Supah/saved/vGYN6h

[coral lake]

yo does anyone have like a super old case theyd be willing to part with? i have a graphics card for trade

[frank frost]

I would just change the cooler

Maybe to an aio if it fits the budget

Or a beefier air cooler like the scythe fuma 2

[frank frost]

Like this Check this out on @Newegg: EK 240mm AIO D-RGB All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler with EK-Vardar High-Performance PMW Fans, Water Cooling Computer Parts, 120mm Fan, Intel 115X/1200/2066, AMD AM4, (240mm AIO) https://www.newegg.com/ekwb-liquid-cooling-system-ek-aio-240mm-d-rgb/p/37B-000B-003G2?Item=9SIAC8WBB80796&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAC8WBB80796-_-04132021

[solid dust]

Yeah, some other people said that, I might switch to that after some more people recommended it

[frank frost]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system-icue-h100i-elite-capellix/p/N82E16835181201?Item=N82E16835181201&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-35-181-201-_-04132021
Or
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer 240

Any of those would be good

[solid dust]

I had a noctua but some people said it was complete overkill for my setup

[frank frost]

Or their 360mm versions

[frank frost]

I mean I don't think any cooler is really overkill unless it's something like a custom loop or liquid hydrogen, etc

It's better to run your hardware at a good temp if you can

[solid dust]

I had the Arctic liquid freezer 240, but I switched from an aio to an air cooler to upgrade my cpu while in my budget

[frank frost]

Ohh

What cpu did you have

[solid dust]

I5 10600k

But a lot of people said I might as well upgrade to the 11600k

[frank frost]

And now a 11600k right?

[solid dust]

Yeah

[frank frost]

I mean yeah

It's a better choice

But if you can you should go aio as well

[solid dust]

I might just get the 11600 as I don’t think I would overclock that much at all

[frank frost]

That artic one is one of the best performing ones

And it's very cheap for it's perf

[frank frost]

That's your choice to make, I would get the unlocked chip just if I want to overclock later down the line

[solid dust]

I just need the 240 and not the 280 right for the cooler

I might just go with the k now that I think about it

[frank frost]

Yeah

[frank frost]

If your case comes with 3 120mm front fans I would go with the 240mm

[solid dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-rgb-white

[frank frost]

Unless you can fit the 280mm one on top

[solid dust]

This was my case, I just liked the white

And should I change my ram? I heard I might get more performance out of a higher end one, but I’m not sure

[frank frost]

I would go 240mm since that way you could put it on front or top

[solid dust]

I’ve never built a PC before, I had a prebuilt awhile ago, but this is the first one I’m building

[frank frost]

If you can you should

Gskill, crucial and corsair make good ram.

[solid dust]

I had Oloy Warhawk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

Are these decent?

[earnest olive]

that is expensive

non rgb ram would save you a lot of money

like $60

i'd just buy some rgb strips and get non rgb ram

[solid dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBJmP6/oloy-warhawk-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-nd4u1632161dcwdx

[earnest olive]

16-20-20-38 is a little ouch but if you don't plan to overclock ram it's not that big of a deal

[solid dust]

I don’t think I’d overclock ram so I should be fine right

[magic torrent]

what case should i get? corsair 5000d or O11 dynamic (I'd also be getting lian li fans if it's the dynamic and i'd get ll120's in it's the 5000d)

[robust lake]

@magic torrent 5000d better if you go for air cooling , o11 for water cooling.

And get the airflow 5000d ofc not the normal one

Or the 5000x if you want front glass

[little osprey]

Started building my computer in mid November it’s now mid April and my final part is being delivered.
I only started to seriously buy a gpu mid march I considered buying scalped. Sitting outside micro center days in advanced. Or a gt 710. But thankfully the Newegg shuffle provided after losing 25 times

I’ve used a dual core imac with integrated graphics from 2013 for 6 years now and I never want to serve my computer. My computer should serve me. specs are 5900x, 3090, Corsair 32gb 3600mhz cl18, crucial 1tb nvme. Mostly bought from

[tough kettle]

nice

[fossil cedar]

Congrats

[little osprey]

hey guys can someone help with my problem?
I have rx 5600 xt and its appears the fans are not spinning which tells me the gpu isnt working

and im heavily rendering stuff

[gritty wharf]

well

[fossil cedar]

Download msi afterburner if you don't have it already and see if you can manually adjust the fans for your gpu to get them spinning

[little osprey]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Oh yeah and one more question, it says on a internet speed tester that i can download at 7 mega bytes, but when im downloading something its only downloading between 400 kb - 1 mb espically on epic games

[frank stirrup]

mbps is not the same as MB/s

8mbps = 1MB/s

epicgames calculates in MB/s most speedtests calculate mbps

unless you specify

[fossil cedar]

Also most game launchers by default have a cap of like 1mb/s which you can take off in the settings usually

[frank stirrup]

epic games doesnt

[fossil cedar]

Ohh well steam and battle net do anyway

[frank stirrup]

atleast not on the 3-4 pcs I have it running on

[fossil cedar]

Mbps vs mb/s same connection

Was just giving visual example

[frank stirrup]

Yeah I realised

my bad

[fossil cedar]

I had to manually uncap

[frank stirrup]

Mbps is megabit per second

[fossil cedar]

Is g lol

[frank stirrup]

MB/s is megabyte per second

1megabyte =8 megabits

[fossil cedar]

Bit confusing tbf

For them to advertise in megabits and stuff smh

Cuz noone wants to buy 15mb/s vs 120 mbps lol

[little osprey]

huh

i dont even know what you guys are talking about lol

all i know that my epic games its taking forever to download and in an hour i only got like 5 gb

[frank stirrup]

send screenshots of ur internet speed test and the downloading screen on epicgames

[fossil cedar]

^ also if your pc only has a hard drive that will slow down the download too

[frank stirrup]

not really

even my 12 year old salvage hard disk can do 50MB/s easily

even if ur running your OS off off it it wont bottleneck even an 8MB/s connection

[fossil cedar]

It's a good bit slower if i downloaded my games to a hard drive tbf tho it's a usb 3 one so not sata kinda capping it a bit

[frank stirrup]

yeah most people dont download to external

[vague oracle]

I have a sea gate 4tb external. Would it be possible to shuck it and throw it into my pc?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on if it's just an internal hard drive in a usb cage basically or if it's a one made specifically for external, and if so you should be able to just take the cage off with a few screws

But can't guarantee

[fossil cedar]

Yes i just forgot how much slower usb was than sata lol

[vague oracle]

If it’s one made specifically for external would it be possible to convert it for desktop use?

[frank stirrup]

i mean its called specifically for external for a reason isnt it?

[fossil cedar]

Depends how old it is/how they decided to make, my dad had an old external drive that the usb thing on it was failing and i unscrewed it and it was just a cage with usb to sata and sata power tbh and i just plugged it into his pc

[frank stirrup]

thats just a laptop drive with a pcb that convers usb to data and power and converts to sata and power

there are drives that have a piece like that attached permanantly to the drive controller

[vague oracle]

Converting external to internal drives is actually pretty common but not all external can be made into an internal

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i doubt its possible if it's anywhere near recent

[frank stirrup]

you can open it up and check

you will void warranty tho

[vague oracle]

That’s what I’m going to do when I get home

Warranty has been out for ages now

[fossil cedar]

Yes but in this case it was legit just a cage that had a regular sata drive in it tho, didn't even have a pcb iirc because it had external power

[frank stirrup]

yeah exactly

[vague oracle]

And it was $50 so I don’t have that much to lose

[frank stirrup]

I converted my old macbook internal drive to an external using that little piece

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[fossil cedar]

https://mattgadient.com/how-to-shuck-the-seagate-expansion-4tb-portable-stea4000400-and-why/ if this is the right hard drive i found a tutorial if you're up for it

[vague oracle]

Nope it’s the backup plus hub I think

But that article was perfect since it confirmed what I thought about the backup plus

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[vague oracle]

Other than the gpu which is already getting replaced soon is there anything y’all would change? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jxYpYg

[fossil cedar]

Alost everything why did you put a 600$ mobo and a 3700x

[vague oracle]

Because I got an insane deal on a combo of the two

I got both of them for $400 new

[fossil cedar]

That's still a rip ofd

You don't need more than a 200$ mobo 🤦

Can you send the motherboard back

And why did you buy 2 of them?

[vague oracle]

I didn’t buy 2 of them

Also this is my current build in my pc for the past 2 years

[fossil cedar]

Ohg

I thought this was a new build but still

Do you have a cpu cooler?

[vague oracle]

I have an H150i aio

I forgot to put it in there

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay

Just gpu if you have all the stuff already