building-and-recc-chat

[wanton cliff]

Yeah but everywhere else is Monopoly money as well

The US Dollar is the only real currency

Don’t @ me

[fossil cedar]

its great tho, easy to distinguish

aight jees ;-;

[muted patio]

Canada money is super tough

[wanton cliff]

Tough as in physically or really stable?

[muted patio]

Physically tough, can't tear it or stain it or anything. It's plastic.

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff gold

Yea, the coins are fun too

[muted patio]

Loonies

They're cool

[stoic island]

toonies

[muted patio]

I still have all my Canada money for when we can go back

Gonna take a motorcycle trip to BC again

[wanton cliff]

I mean, US money is waterproof???

[stoic island]

uh

are you sure

[muted patio]

Gonna hit the Buchart gardens in spring

[stoic island]

I'm pretty damn sure it's not

[muted patio]

Will be epic

[stoic island]

and I think canadian money is

[muted patio]

It ain't waterproof lol

Canada money is plastic

[stoic island]

I was about to grab a one dollar bill and test it lel

[muted patio]

Canada money can survive washing in jeans and not fade or anything XD

Do that to US money and it's done

[jaunty nacelle]

do all Z590 mobos support 11th gen out of the box

[stoic island]

they should

[jaunty nacelle]

ty

[cursive wharf]

@stoic island prices seem a bit better then US given conversion rate (they use to be very good just when tarrifs came in, took quite some time for retailers to adjust prices). Tho, stock is quite annoying in CAN. Worse then US.

[stoic island]

Hm

sad

[cursive wharf]

Ye, then not having things like shuffle makes it fun.

[odd glacier]

Can someone help me with my fans I’m pretty confused they run in bios fine but as soon as i login they stop running it was happening to my gpu too then I uninstalled dragon center now the gpu fans work

[river lintel]

Can someone tell me if this MB will work with this CPU right out of the box? MB-GIGABYTE H470 HD3 LGA 1200 Intel H470 ATX CPU-Intel Core i9-10900 Comet Lake 10-Core 2.8 GHz LGA 1200 65W BX8070110900

[muted patio]

It will but why that board for a 10900?

B560

For the ram speeds

Else that 10900 will severely underperform

[river lintel]

B560? Brand Name??

[stoic island]

B560 is the chipset, any b560 board will do.

[muted patio]

Yes

[stoic island]

The H470 chipset will limit the speed your ram will run at, the B560 chipset will not.

[river lintel]

OK Great....Thanks for the info. Kool that you guys are here to help!!

Mr1111.........So maybe better to use i7 instead i9?

[wanton cliff]

That’s... not what he said

[river lintel]

OK I get it now..

man you guys are fast!!

[odd glacier]

Anyone know why my fans only work in bios?

Case fans*

[desert gulch]

whats your fan curve set to?

[odd glacier]

I’ve never touched them they would run yesterday fine but today only in bios

[desert gulch]

hmm

[odd glacier]

I downloaded dragon center today if that affects it

[desert gulch]

it may

did you screw with fan control settings in dragon center?

[odd glacier]

Nope

That’s why I’m so confused

[desert gulch]

hmm

[stoic island]

Dragon center is crappy

if it happened after you installed it, uninstall it

[desert gulch]

id uninstall

and see if that fixes it

any other software youve installed recently?

[odd glacier]

Ok I’ll try that

No that was the only one

[stoic island]

My fans throw a fit when dragon center is installed and I set a bios fan curve lel

[desert gulch]

lol i never got dragon center cuz its sucks

[stoic island]

I use it from time to time

but it's set not to open on startup

sometimes it makes my fans ramp up and down and up and down

[desert gulch]

whats it really do that afterburner+adrenaline+ryzen master cant do?

[stoic island]

fan control

the manual fan control is useful when I want to tinker with my bios fan curve

[desert gulch]

id rather use bios tbh

less dragon crap in my pc that way

[stoic island]

I use it to find what speeds make what sound

[desert gulch]

hm

[odd glacier]

Uninstalling worked

Thank you!

[desert gulch]

Ye np

[jaunty nacelle]

is this an issue

that i should be concerned about

[muted patio]

No

only need 8 pin

[jaunty nacelle]

ty

[turbid whale]

im so gd thankful newegg has great return policy. opened my 5600x and found this 🥲

[muted patio]

Just bend it back?

I'd use a credit card to bend it back and pop it in and run

[still roost]

Dandyman#3639 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[turbid whale]

dont have the confidence. rather play it safe cause i cant afford to replace it

[wanton cliff]

If it doesn’t bend back correctly then just say that the pin was off when it was shipped or whatever

Or be honest and say that it was broke but you tried to fix it

[ancient crown]

It's already broken so you can try to fix and if ya fail and report or not fix and report it

[south jewel]

so happy rn im bouta finish my pc build all i need is the processor and the video card

the things on the side of my mobo that kinda look like a usb port r the sata connections no? (I wanna make sure so I dont goof my first pc build)

[muted patio]

Yes

The connector inside has an angle to it

Make sure you line them up right

[south jewel]

alr thanks so much

[muted patio]

👍

[south jewel]

im only missing cpu and gpu like i said earlier im tryna go for a ti

3060ti*

[desert gulch]

What mobo you got?

[south jewel]

B450

ik

its not the best

[muted patio]

Eh, it's fine

No point in paying for things you don't/won't use

[south jewel]

mhm and i wont be doing any OC if i do very minimal

[little osprey]

thats why i like intel cpus lol

[cinder wren]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-wifi/p/N82E16813145164?Description=b450m ds3h&cm_re=b450m_ds3h-_-13-145-164-_-Product&quicklink=true

If you guys check this motherboard out ... after I installed the 3060Ti, there's only room for x1 Sata III (others get covered by this beast) - any suggestions? Trying to hook up 1 or 2 more hard drives without using external bays

[wanton cliff]

Why are you getting that board anyways?

Old, crap board

[cinder wren]

Top 3 Sata 3 are covered

I mean, it works, other than this, lol

[wanton cliff]

But why not, like

A B550 DS3H

And even then, I hate the DS3H line

[cinder wren]

yeah 550 would have same issue, these cards are just massive

[wanton cliff]

Which specific card are you referencing?

[cinder wren]

3060Ti

[wanton cliff]

Which one tho

[cinder wren]

4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (ASUStek Computer Inc)

According to Speccy, it's an 8gb

[wanton cliff]

I’m asking which specific RTX 3060Ti

There are many different ones from many different companies

[cinder wren]

Ghost Oc

[wanton cliff]

Gainward?

[cinder wren]

yes

[wanton cliff]

I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a card from Gainward in the wild

I don’t even know where they would be sold

[cinder wren]

Newegg lol

one of their resellers

[wanton cliff]

Aaaaand how much do you expect to pay for this card?

Or do you already have it?

[cinder wren]

yeah and its blocking my Sata 3 ports lol

I can only use 1

[wanton cliff]

Huh

Well ok

You could get a full size ATX board rather than an mATX

[cinder wren]

yeah i know, trying to not spend further at the moment

eventually for sure

[wanton cliff]

Which board do you have now?

The B450?

[cinder wren]

I'll wait for ddr5 to be sure i get what i want

yeah

[wanton cliff]

Uh

DDR5 is going to be crazy stupid expensive at launch

[muted patio]

You don't know that

[wanton cliff]

Weren’t you the one that said that?

[muted patio]

Nope

[dire osprey]

Is this safe? (1000W Gold PSU)
VGA Cable -> 8 pin 3090 (XC3)
VGA Cable -> 8 pin 3090 / 6 pin 1080 ti
VGA Cable -> 8 pin 1080 ti / 6 pin 1060

[muted patio]

Uhhh, two gpu's drawing from the same cable???

[dire osprey]

1080 ti only pulls ~70w on the 6 pin so thinking it's all good

[wanton cliff]

Eek

[muted patio]

Since when does it only pull 70W?

Mining?

[dire osprey]

On the 6 pin

pulls more on its 8

[stoic island]

daisy-chain vga cables is not a good idea with any high power draw GPUs

[muted patio]

Exactly this

[dire osprey]

But yeah it's for mining

Why not?

[stoic island]

lots of people report crashing issues

[dire osprey]

It sucks having more than enough power but stupid psu only came with 3 cables

[muted patio]

What PSU exactly?

Most 1000W come with 5

[dire osprey]

focus gold

[muted patio]

Get a couple more cables then

They're cheap

[dire osprey]

Most 1000w come with 3 cables in my experience. it's special when they have more lol

They aren't tho

they are ridiculously expensive lol

[stoic island]

I mean, RM1000i comes with 5

I believe

[dire osprey]

Yeah corsairs usually come with more. it's nice

But corsairs were oos

[stoic island]

5 gpu 1 cpu

[dire osprey]

Mine has 4 slots but 3 cables

[sharp tundra]

could just strap it to your back, and ahave a really long pcie cable

[static ravine]

lol

[sharp tundra]

well, for some reason im experiencing a bug in fallout 4 (surprising right?), but the combat music never stops. its good music, just doesnt really fit the theme of me enjoying a stroll through nukaworld

[wanton crystal]

Guys I need help like badly!

[little osprey]

Whats up?

[wanton crystal]

My pc was working just fine. I installed a aio switched out my ryzen wraith cooler. Now my pc won't power on. The leds on my motherboard do not come on, ocassionally I get a very quick red blink on it. Any ideas?

[little osprey]

its not posting at all?

[covert crypt]

something doesnt look right here..

[little osprey]

and did you use a anti static mat

[wanton crystal]

I used the wrist clip and on a solid wood table on tile

[muted patio]

You left something inplugged or bumped a power plug. Check them all.

[little osprey]

you have to clip it on the pc

the whole point of one

is to ground yourself

[wanton crystal]

Yes I did to the metal case. I meant the case was on a wood table

[little osprey]

oh

the red blink is your hhd

[muted patio]

Its not a static issue

[little osprey]

hdd*

[wanton crystal]

Could it be the power supply? And will it randomly go out like that?

[muted patio]

Check all the power connections. You simy bumped something or left it unplugged.

Chdck ram as well

[fossil cedar]

most ppls dont even put hdds in pcs anymore tbh

[wanton crystal]

Checking that now. Would the motherboard leds still come on even if it's the ram?

[muted patio]

Possibly

If its loose

Also make sure the aio is too tight on the cpu

Also unplug from wall and replug. Check all connections to be sure theyre proper. Mightbhave pligged something in wrong and the psu is protecting itself. Post pics if you need to. Movie starting soon so someone else will help.....

[wanton crystal]

I'll post pictures in a minute. I took out ram and reinstalled, I checked all power to the motherboard.

[jaunty nacelle]

dont you gotta plug in the gpu lol

[wanton crystal]

No actually, it's a low profile 1650 doesn't require power connection. It was one of the better options for my previous pc (Not meant for gaming it was like a Dell or something)

And feel free to roast about it lol but as everyone knows the gpu shortage is no joke. Bought this thing for like 110 a year or so ago and it's listed sell price is like 500 lol

[wanton crystal]

Not posting at all

[stoic solstice]

pls help

[still roost]

Corona Chair#9846 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic solstice]

i refilled my ink

how did it detect

[stoic island]

probably damaged some sort of seal

[potent portal]

There's actually microchips that store data in the cartridges. If the ink level changes, it knows.

[sharp tundra]

that white pc is CLEEN

[stoic solstice]

idk

xd i printed 30 pages today on low ink

because i refilled eariier today

now hp prolly voided my warranty

[potent portal]

Only if there's damage caused by you refilling it

[stoic solstice]

none

prints perfectly

[potent portal]

They have to be able to prove CID, Customer Induced Damage, if you send it in for warranty claim

[stoic solstice]

my printer works

im just worried theyll void

just in case uu know

[potent portal]

They won't unless you send it in for repair and they can prove that the damage was caused by non-factory ink or something

[stoic solstice]

ohhh

ok ty

i was worried

im stipid person

*stupid

[potent portal]

No you had a valid concern there, the warning message is meant to scare you away from refilling so you buy their carts

[stoic solstice]

i got so much ink on my hands

alr ty

[earnest olive]

please use pcpartpicker.com instead of sending 6 screenshots of your newegg cart

sincerely, everyone with eyes

[muted patio]

That power supply is way overpriced

[muted patio]

Enermax REvolution DF850W

[earnest olive]

aaand he completely ignored

[brave coral]

It was already sending everything

[muted patio]

3950x why

$600 motherboard?

[brave coral]

It’s just what I chose

Cause my budget was $4000

[muted patio]

Things are too expensive

Don't need to spend that much for the performance

[earnest olive]

3950x is also not a particularly good gaming processor for the price

[brave coral]

And also I’m running a four monitor set up

[earnest olive]

loses to plenty of cheaper processors

it's not meant for gaming

[potent portal]

A 5600X will outperform a 3950X in games

[earnest olive]

so will an 11400

[brave coral]

How much is it

[earnest olive]

$300 and $184 respectively

[brave coral]

So a ryzen 9 5600x will outperform a 3950x

[ripe wedge]

in gaming

[brave coral]

You also got a think I’ll be working with it to

[ripe wedge]

3950x will destroy a 5600x in apps that need a lot of cores

[ripe wedge]

I have that card

[brave coral]

That’s what I was making sure

Think u

I don’t have it yet I’ll be ordering it soon

Maybe April 10 or 20th

[little osprey]

why 3950x

buy 5900x or 5950x

[brave coral]

Because I’ve been waiting two or three months to order all of it at the same time

[cold imp]

imo for 4K I’d go 5950x + 3090

[muted patio]

$2500 and better performance https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqTJW3

[ripe wedge]

3950x not worth that price

[little osprey]

no

[brave coral]

You got a think my budget is $4000

[little osprey]

if its resolution just gaming 5600x always

above 1080p anyways

[muted patio]

Doesn't mean you need to spend $4000

[earnest olive]

if you like paying more for less performance go ahead

don't ask for advice then

[cold imp]

Wait a seconds

Pilot-E is an nvme

[earnest olive]

yes

[muted patio]

Mhmm

[cold imp]

Holy crap
The value

[muted patio]

Fast one too

Just as fast as SN750

or 970

[little osprey]

You put the wrong pilot-e lol

[ripe wedge]

I have a pilot e its nice

[little osprey]

enhanced

wait wthe hell

ugh

[muted patio]

I didn't lol

[little osprey]

pcpp is scuffed

[muted patio]

MKNSSDPE1TB-D8

[little osprey]

its enhanced but it doesnt say enhanced

[cold imp]

Would 850W be overkill for a 5600x 3080

[muted patio]

No

[cold imp]

Ok

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-1tb/p/N82E16820226901?

[muted patio]

3080 transients are ~500W

[little osprey]

dumb pcpp

[cold imp]

Oh dang

[muted patio]

Not for very long

[cold imp]

But it’s there

[muted patio]

But it will trip OCP on some PSU's

[cold imp]

Alright thx y’all
Gn

[little osprey]

IE don't buy AMP

if you're getting 3080/3090

[muted patio]

Enermax Revolution DF

[little osprey]

^

[raw crane]

How do I access bios without being logged in?

[ripe wedge]

you dont need to be logged into a computer for the bios

when its booting up it will have a splash screen that says the brand or whatever and most of the time the bios key is the delete key (DEL)

@raw crane

[raw crane]

Okaayyy thank you!!

[ripe wedge]

np

[raven minnow]

I just ordered the hardware from a build I was talking to people about last night on here. Someone pointed out that there are cheaper places to get Win10... Is this a legit place for that?
https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key

[potent portal]

Yes

[ripe wedge]

Still kinda a high price for windows 10 pro

Think I’ve seen it cheaper

RB30 code on CDKdeals.com. Don’t know if this code still works but it gives a discount. Robbie tech used this before

Robbie the guy who does the Newegg tech streams

[potent portal]

I've seen pro for closer to $20 range on ebay. Anything cheaper than that tends to be an obvious scam.

[raw crane]

Heelllooo can anyone help. My pc won’t boot and there’s a white light on my MOBO for the cpu

I tried taking the cpu out and putting it back in but it didn’t work

All the cables are plugged in

The bios showed up once but didn’t show up again after I started it up for the first time

[potent portal]

Is this a new build? What specs?

[raw crane]

My motherboard is a MSI Z490 a-pro with a i5 10600k

Yes this is a new build

I built it myself

[sharp tundra]

think i had a stroke trying to read that guys messages about having a $4000 budget, tho i cant talk too much, im spending a $4500 on a pc too

and most of it is just "what i want and think looks cool

[ripe wedge]

Was trying to help Nani troubleshoot it for a bit but only things I’d think would be cpu or mobo and thought of ram reseat but then dram light would be on

[raw crane]

^ 😩

[fossil cedar]

It could be a bent pin but let's hope it's not that

[sharp tundra]

why not? you can just bend them back in place

[potent portal]

Not necessarily since the dram controller is located on the cpu, it's worth a try doing a reseat of the memory or trying with just one stick at a time

[ripe wedge]

also he said he dropped the cpu lol

[raw crane]

BROOO just thinking that may be the possibility is gonna make me throw the whole thing out the window

LMAO

[sharp tundra]

oh, cpu

[raw crane]

that was after the fact I took it out

[sharp tundra]

thought you were talking about a mobo connector

[raw crane]

But it doesn’t change anything I had the problem before

[ripe wedge]

Newer intel cpus don’t have pins

But mobo have pins

[raw crane]

^

^

[fossil cedar]

Bit more complicated than that

[fossil cedar]

Ahh didn't realize it was an intel build, could have been on the mobo then tho, but worth a shot reseating ram

[ripe wedge]

@raw crane try like he said to reseat the ram but only boot the pc with one stick in

[raw crane]

Okay 👍🏼

Is it a possibility that I may have shocked the board

Like I was ground

I wasnt*

[sharp tundra]

bro, some guy a while back didnt understand that the gold contacts for AMD cpus in AM4 sockets were on the side of the holes lol

[fossil cedar]

A possibility but i doubt unless you were on carpet or something

[ripe wedge]

It wouldn’t light up at all

Prolly would kill the board entirely

[fossil cedar]

^

[raw crane]

Okay yeah nothing

Esta no bien

I’m stressed thinking about it being the motherboard or cpu.

[fossil cedar]

Maybe just check the mobo pins

[raw crane]

I checked and everything seemed aligned

Idk if I have to check deeper but i took a glance and everything looked straight

[sharp tundra]

can the 5600x do 4k witha 3080?

[fossil cedar]

It's the 3080 that does most of the work there but imo that's an unbalanced rig and you should be getting a 5800x min with a 3080 but should be fine

[sharp tundra]

no offense man, but im not sure how well i trust your judgement since you think the 10850k is better than the 5600x at gaming, lol

[fossil cedar]

No i think it's a better value cpu

And overall

[sharp tundra]

maybe for everything that isnt gaming

[ripe wedge]

5600x has faster single threaded

Should be good enough for 4K like he said it’s mostly GPU at that point

[robust lake]

10850k is still better at some games from what i have seen

[ripe wedge]

Games that need more cores maybe

[tough kettle]

Not even in games that need more cores

a 10850k actually properly overclocked will surpass the 5600x

GN's testing with the 10900k overclocked was similar to the 5600x stock because his OC was literal ass

look at King Faris's testing

maximum OC on both RAM + All-core/PBO2, 10900k wins half the games compared to a 5950x/5900x

10850k is just a worse binned 10900k

I don't assume it'll be far behind

https://kingfaris.co.uk/cpu/battle/16

even if we look at AnandTech's testing with a 10850k stock vs 5600x stock-
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/635308961708638228/803693595709407242/120630.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/635308961708638228/803693030272008232/120614.png

they are pretty equal in several games

an overclocked 10850k will definitely be superior

[jagged ember]

But in the same vein

You can also overclock a 5600x

And given ctr exists it's really easy for a non professional to get good oc performance

However I think that is not a relevant point lol

Oops

[tough kettle]

CTR isn't a good software

https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/02/05/ctr-a-review-and-a-warning/amp/

the version we originally tested in our first article, is lacking the ability to select different levels of AVX workload intensity that it can use during it’s built-in tests. Instead of defaulting to a safer and more rigorous Heavy AVX option, it instead defaults to—and indeed only allows—the aptly named Light AVX mode. The issue with this default/limitation is that it allows for potentially impossible clock speeds and settings that aren’t stable at heavier loads, meaning under CPU stress you face an almost guaranteed possibility of overheating.

This is especially important for higher core count CPUs on setups with good enough cooling to mask the issue while testing at these low loads. When higher loads kick in, these ‘test stable’ settings then overwhelm the CPU and cooling system with excessive clock speed and voltage resulting in high temperatures. This imperfect ‘light test only’ is made more complicated by the lack of AVX heavy mode, workaround for which is to: “increase the voltage … by 75-100mV and then manually test stability for these cases.” The issue is compounded here, as the light testing does not stress the CPU enough to warn CTR away from higher voltages, so adding more voltage will just compound the high-load temperature situation more:

practically every overclocker avoids CTR

@jagged ember

almost everyone has been using PBO2, especially after that 1.55v bug on CTR degrading peoples CPU's

CTR is the one setting the voltage, so most people say "just adjust the voltage on your own", why are you using CTR then?

All it does is, set voltage automatically then set clockspeed and test with prime95 blend

And if you manually change the voltage from what it was testing on, then you can't use any of the CTR settings

because it is based around the voltage it chooses

[jagged ember]

Huh

I thought it adjusted to whatever voltage and clocks you set?

But it would just need to go through diagnostics first

Voltage bug I didn't know about

[tough kettle]

Clockspeed isn't dynamic if you're force setting the clockspeed

[jagged ember]

Also I think the reason they use avx light is because most gamers won't be using a load as heavy as avx heavy

[tough kettle]

did you even read it properly

[jagged ember]

But correct me if I'm wrong

[tough kettle]

the issue with this default/limitation is that it allows for potentially impossible clock speeds and settings that aren’t stable at heavier loads, meaning under CPU stress you face an almost guaranteed possibility of overheating.

[jagged ember]

I'm just not sure about the weight of gaming workload vs cinebench for 30 minutes

[tough kettle]

I didn't say anything about cinebench

[jagged ember]

Then again, I guess it's also a moot point considering avx heavy gives more stability

Which is pretty important

Hm

Thanks for informing

[wanton crystal]

I tried everything you recommended. It doesn't even seem to post, the fan also is not coming on in the power supply I don't believe. I ordered a new power supply so we shall see Tuesday if that was the issue. Thank you for the help you provided

[sharp tundra]

dude, if it was a problem with your psu, it wouldnt even turn on.

well, kinda

are you sure you checked all the connections? and are you using custom cables?

[wanton crystal]

Yes I checked all the connections. The pc doesn't turn on at all. No sounds no light on mb and the fan on the power supply doesn't turn on either. I checked every single connection

[jagged ember]

Is the psu on?

I'm just making sure

I've made that mistake more than once

Also psu fan basically never spins up unless under load

[sharp tundra]

what wideus said, is the PSU actually switched on?

[winter rover]

real or fake?

[little osprey]

thats fake

nobody would sell a 580 4gb for that price
even less so on when gpu prices scalped both on new and used

but you could still take the gamble and see if it's real or not

[winter rover]

ok

what ssd should i get?

[sharp tundra]

m.2 nvme

[winter rover]

ok

[sharp tundra]

if its in your budget ofc

[winter rover]

ye

[sharp tundra]

hold up, ill link a good one

[winter rover]

aler

alr

[sharp tundra]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DKB5LWY/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=yb.Mkz8UsT66F6K-csU7Sw&hsa_cr_id=4041944560701&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=ad887528-78fc-4f52-b9d6-8d86af354fbf&pd_rd_w=c8QJp&pd_rd_wg=tsOKO&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_title

here ye go

[winter rover]

ok

how does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9mrBc

[sharp tundra]

what gpu you plan on getting?

[winter rover]

idk prob a 3060 super

i was just going to use this for school

and use my laptop for games

[sharp tundra]

so no gaming?

[winter rover]

once gpu are back to normal ill get one

[sharp tundra]

oh ok

but right now you dont need one

[wanton crystal]

Yes I checked that many times. Made sure to.try a different outlet as well

[winter rover]

correct

[sharp tundra]

also, are you getting this case for any certain reason?

[winter rover]

no

[sharp tundra]

imma swap it out for a better cheaper one

[winter rover]

ok

[sharp tundra]

also, the mobo you chose doesnt support 3200mhz ram

so ill find you one that does

does it need to have wifi?

[winter rover]

ok this is my first time building a pc lol

tbh idk

[sharp tundra]

do you plan on hardwiring your PC to your router?

[winter rover]

no

[sharp tundra]

or using it on wifi

[winter rover]

wifi

[sharp tundra]

okay

i forgot to ask, whats your budget?

[winter rover]

870 ish tak and all

[sharp tundra]

USD?

[winter rover]

yes

[sharp tundra]

do you need peripherals?

[winter rover]

srry im new whats that

[sharp tundra]

monitor, keyboard, mouse

etc

[winter rover]

no

[sharp tundra]

cool, more monies for pc then

[winter rover]

yus

i gtg right now but just dm me the whole thing when ur done or if u need me just dm me

[dawn cosmos]

So I installed a new Mobo and processor. Been running totally fine. However I’m running into issues with general slowness and processes not even wanting to open... or them taking FOREVER to open. Tried to restart Pc today and it’s been on the restart screen for at least 20 minutes. I am concerned something is really wrong. My wife was playing a game on it and hit the power to it a few days ago and it hasn’t been touched since then. Any ideas on what’s going on?

[sharp tundra]

okay, last question, do you plan on gaming on it in the future?

[dawn cosmos]

Like she hit the power strip

[fossil cedar]

Get a gammaxx 400/id cooling se 224xt /vetroo v5 instead for the cooler, and I'd recommend a mushkin pilot e ssd instead

[sharp tundra]

i got him covered man

thanks tho

[fossil cedar]

But there's no point in getting a 212 all those do better cooling for less

[fossil cedar]

What specs are you running?

[sharp tundra]

like i said, i got him covered

[dawn cosmos]

Steel legend and i5. Tuf gaming 1650 and plenty of storage. 32 rip jaw ram. And a Corsair water cooling system

But didn’t have issues until she hit the power strip and I opened it up today

It’s legit still on the restart screen

[fossil cedar]

He's getting worse cooler for more money, ik you don't like the way I think the 10850k is a good deal but thr 212 is an outdated cooler

[sharp tundra]

dude, im saying that i put a se 224 xt on the list well before you came around, lol

i got him taken care of, i promise

[fossil cedar]

Could any wires have came loose when she hit it

[sharp tundra]

no unnecessary money spent where it didnt need to be

[fossil cedar]

I only said it because you didn't say anything about the cooler in chat

[dawn cosmos]

The only wires that would be down there would be for the Pc itself and the monitors.

[fossil cedar]

Hmm, mb just check the pc one is fully in anyway

[sharp tundra]

well i didnt think i needed to say anything about it, i didnt tell him about the psu either and i changed that too

[dawn cosmos]

I’m so afraid to stop the restart phase. But I feel like I’m going to need to shut it down completely and get all of the power out of it.

[fossil cedar]

I went off the most recent link, did you dm them or something?

[sharp tundra]

yeah

[dawn cosmos]

Part of me is thinking it’s trying to repair itself

[fossil cedar]

Ahh well it didn't seem like that

[sharp tundra]

he did say he was leaving and for me to dm him, lol

[fossil cedar]

If it takes over 30 mins I'd manually power off if still stuck at sceeen

[dawn cosmos]

Oh my gosh. 😭 okay.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh didn't see that then

[sharp tundra]

just in case you were curious https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cjzfgt

thats the updated list

[fossil cedar]

That's better yeah

[sharp tundra]

oops, didnt catch the cpu

its not an "F"

[tough kettle]

that isn't a very good list either lol

[sharp tundra]

what about it do you think is not good?

[tough kettle]

P300A isn't good for 60, a b560 for the price of a Z490/Z590? I don't see a need for a P31

and overpriced ram

3000mhz is cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wy848d/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-cl15-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4b

[sharp tundra]

ofc 3000 speed is cheaper you dingus

[tough kettle]

3000mhz cl15=3200mhz cl16 in real life usage

[sharp tundra]

the board was chosen anyways because he need wifi, and support for 3200mhz

and the p300a is a good case

[tough kettle]

P300A without an extra or two fan is trash

[tough kettle]

#building-and-recc-chat message

15/(3000/2000)=10ns
16/(3200/2000)=10ns

[sharp tundra]

the other 2 boards that were sub $110 didnt even support 3000mhz

[tough kettle]

??????

b560m pro4/ac is 100

and def supports 3000mhz

[sharp tundra]

with wifi?

[tough kettle]

yes

[sharp tundra]

that board is $197 dude

[tough kettle]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157978?Description=b560m pro4&cm_re=b560m_pro4-_-13-157-978-_-Product

back order for 100

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157979?Description=b560m pro4&cm_re=b560m_pro4-_-13-157-979-_-Product&quicklink=true

one more

where are you even looking?

[dawn cosmos]

@fossil cedar ran back in my bios and found an update for my CPU that didn’t install. Maybe that was the issue?

[sharp tundra]

was looking at b460 pro4/ac

[tough kettle]

why...

[sharp tundra]

mistake???

[muted patio]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

You mean a bios update??

[dawn cosmos]

Yes

Gonna check my chipsets now

[sharp tundra]

anyways, mobo is all im changing, cause i wasnt looking at oos when making the list, but everything else is fine

[fossil cedar]

That wouldn't show up in the bios automatically but okay

[tough kettle]

I gave you explanation for why it's not fine

[dawn cosmos]

I updated it when I first upgraded but it apparently didn’t install.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[tough kettle]

[fossil cedar]

Idk how this happens but okay

[thorny bronze]

Can anyone help me with a internet problem?

[sharp tundra]

if you're having internet problems, you might wanna try calling your service provider

[thorny bronze]

its not with the internet its something with my pc. Sorry I worded that wrong

[sharp tundra]

you using wifi or ethernet?

[thorny bronze]

ethernet

and only get like 2-3mbps

[sharp tundra]

is this a recent problem or on going?

[thorny bronze]

been like it for a month

[sharp tundra]

do you live in a rural area or urban area? and do you have fiber, cable, or satellite internet?

[thorny bronze]

I am right on the outside of town. its mediacom so im not sure exactly what mine it

is

Think cable

[sharp tundra]

what were your download speeds before it slowed down?

[thorny bronze]

well my pc gets 2-3 it was 5-6 my laptop gets 25-30

[sharp tundra]

might need to get a new ethernet cable for the pc then

[thorny bronze]

its brand new

I have tried 2 different ones

[sharp tundra]

is your laptop also using ethernet?

or wifi?

[thorny bronze]

wifi

with ethernet its like 50

[sharp tundra]

its definitely a ethernet cable probalem then

[thorny bronze]

my pc on wifi is even slower

what cable would you reccomend then?

[sharp tundra]

not entirely sure about that one lol. just sounds like your cable is the problem because wifi speeds are typically slower than hard wire speeds

because the more devides you have connected to wifi, the slower it goes, but that problem is negated with ethernet

[thorny bronze]

Ok ill look for a new cable

[sharp tundra]

okay, look online for reputable ethernet cables, sometimes comapnies just make bad cables

[thorny bronze]

yep i will

[marble seal]

is the drive getting near full? is there some sort of av scanning your files as they dl? have you restarted recently? driver update? there are plenty of possible causes besides cable. Try plugging your laptop in with the cable and turn off wifi and see if its speeds drop to confirm it really is the cable

oh you did and speeds increased? so it shouldnt be the cable...

[little osprey]

I put this together as a budget build. Is it good or are there other parts that are better?

[muted patio]

For $140, Intel 10400

[tough kettle]

GT 1030 isn't very good for a 100

neither is the SSD for it's price

[little osprey]

3200g with a gt 1030? tf

[tough kettle]

the PSU isn't very good

and you have a single stick of RAM

[muted patio]

If you're trying to build a $500 PC, I'd wait until you have a bit more money.

[little osprey]

the igpu is good as gt 1030, there is no point going for a 1030 with a 3200g

[muted patio]

Or get a second hand one

[tough kettle]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1052256401925193/

pretty good deal for a 100 bucks

[muted patio]

Pop that in a 10400 build

When the board comes back in stock, with that GPU, $600 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxDq2V It'll beat out the 3600x gaming wise https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxDq2V

[tough kettle]

BR for 55 sus

[muted patio]

Eh, just threw one in

[tough kettle]

might as well get GP-G

[muted patio]

Stil under $500

PCPP spoop with Segotep lol

[tough kettle]

I'd much rather have a 500 gig SSD too for like what 9 bucks more lol

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't like 1030 instead of the vega 8 in that 3200g lmao

No point going for the gpu

[muted patio]

I mean, we talking cheap cheap here so

[obsidian wigeon]

But still

Oh wait, nvm

am dumb

[little osprey]

also 2666mhz ram

[muted patio]

Get this with Decks 1060 they posted https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxDq2V

[tough kettle]

I would uh do something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8gDq2V

[thorny bronze]

@sharp tundra i wouldn think it would be cable but it might be

[sharp tundra]

possible, it just made the most sense, im no professsional tho

[little osprey]

I modified it to be a little bit cheaper, so is it still decent?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gw6DdD

[muted patio]

H410 is a no

[little osprey]

why is that?

[muted patio]

Restricts CPU ram speeds

[little osprey]

oh ok

[stoic island]

2x4 also seems iffy

[fossil cedar]

Tbh at that stage I'd just buy a 1x8 and get another 1x8 later or save up slightly more for a 70$2x8gb kit

[desert gulch]

Gl finding a used 1060 for 100 bucks

[fossil cedar]

Someone found one on fb marketplace

[desert gulch]

Maybe from a friend or sumthin

[stoic island]

Pretty sure decks linked one

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nJfy2V something like this would be better

If that rams promo goes runs out just pick the next cheapest 3000mhz 2x8gb kit

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar y b460

[fossil cedar]

Better than h510

H410*

[stoic island]

Not in performance

[fossil cedar]

And they have 500 budget r sum

[stoic island]

B560 tho

[muted patio]

No budget was given actually

[little osprey]

i prefer around the 550 range

[fossil cedar]

^ i just picked the cheapest out of b460/b560

[muted patio]

Then just run integrated graphics for now.

[stoic island]

H410 and b460 both limit performance from b560

B560 unlocked ram, b460 not unlocked

[fossil cedar]

Ik but at 550 you can't really be spending 120 on a mobo

[muted patio]

Don't need to

[stoic island]

100$ for b560m pro4*

[muted patio]

B560 $100

[fossil cedar]

Ohh ntb

That would bump it up 25 if they can afford

[stoic island]

Hell isn't b560m hdv like 85$

[fossil cedar]

Is b460 not locked at 2933 anyway?

[fossil cedar]

Not on pcpp anyway

[stoic island]

B460 locked to 2666mhz for i3/i5

[muted patio]

Upgrades

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[fossil cedar]

Sorted low to high for b460 and b560

[stoic island]

Smh

75$ actually
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157980

[fossil cedar]

First b560

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar look at da link

[fossil cedar]

Low to high

[stoic island]

75$

[fossil cedar]

Ahh, well i was just looking at pcpp

[fossil cedar]

Then get this mobo instead @little osprey

[little osprey]

ok

[desert gulch]

Pcpp not always correct, if I see a price that's insanely high for something I know is usually lower, I check the pricing thru the retailers to verify it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah usually i do too and kinda forgot b460 locked to 2666 and not 3000 as well :/

[desert gulch]

Yeah the only cpus that can get near 3000 (2933) are the i7 and i9, i3 and i5 locked to 2666 on b460

[fossil cedar]

Yea Mr11 reminded me, well 2933 is so close to 3000 it's like basically same thing

[desert gulch]

Yeah it is

[leaden oriole]

Hey y’all. I hate to be back here but I need help

[wanton cliff]

Your PFP

I recognize it

[leaden oriole]

Ooh

[wanton cliff]

Damn what’s the name of that character

Can’t remember

[leaden oriole]

Meru

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[leaden oriole]

Top tier waifu

[wanton cliff]

The red tiefling who violates this server’s PG-13 rule

[leaden oriole]

Whaaat? No she doesn’t 🤫

So about that help?

[wanton cliff]

Ask away

[leaden oriole]

I was going to buy a prebuilt pc and work off of it, but I sort of backed myself into a corner budget wise.

I already purchased a graphics card and it turns out that most prebuilt can’t be without a card in the order

[wanton cliff]

Makes sense

[leaden oriole]

I’m a newbie trying to@build my first pc and am@tight on money

So I have this thing

[wanton cliff]

Cringe price

[leaden oriole]

And nothing to put it jn

Oh no ignore my info

[wanton cliff]

Before you do anything, is it possible to return that card?

Also delete that image

[leaden oriole]

There

And no. I actually got it as a gift from a friend last year

All my money was wasted trying to transform an old intel. It didn’t work out, power source was busy

I have maybe a 400-600$ budget

[wanton cliff]

For all of it?

That’s hard

[leaden oriole]

Minus the card

The card is not included in the budget

The case can be considered out of budget as well

Basically I just need the guys

[wanton cliff]

Do you have a case?

[leaden oriole]

No I don’t

But I have a different plan on that. I would need advice on a case tho

Basically the case will be purchased later with a paycheck I’m expecting

[wanton cliff]

I wonder if you could get a 10400f with that budget

[leaden oriole]

Idk what that is

[wanton cliff]

Lemme see what I can do

[leaden oriole]

Okie dokie

[wanton cliff]

$600 you said?

[leaden oriole]

Yes sir

Or ma’am

Yes my eldritch friend

[wanton cliff]

My fellow eldritch terror

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LVXkK3

$700~

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whL9ZZ

[leaden oriole]

Wait hold on

Lemme check what the cpu I have is

[wanton cliff]

Still $700~

[static ravine]

[leaden oriole]

Ok I’m back

I have this thing

Any good?

And cus I already have one

[wanton cliff]

It’s like

A decade old

Or something like that

[leaden oriole]

Oh

Dang

[desert gulch]

It's not great tbh

Especially for that price

[leaden oriole]

I already have it😬

[desert gulch]

Oof

[leaden oriole]

I can sell it tho

[desert gulch]

Sara what socket is that thing?

[wanton cliff]

1150

[desert gulch]

Oof

[wanton cliff]

Laptop specs?

Very high quality at the time

[desert gulch]

Not bad for that time

Ye

[wanton cliff]

30 FPS gronsk

Worse than Xbox One

[leaden oriole]

Yeah I want to be able to run r6 and battlefield 1

[wanton cliff]

Also that’s a 4570h, not a 4570 proper

[lost basin]

What would you prefer Ryzen 7 or Intel 9?

[wanton cliff]

Both are GPU intensive games. You might be able to get by with the 4570 tbh

DDR3 and old board needed tho

[wanton cliff]

Depends which of the two you mean

[leaden oriole]

Guys Idk what any of this means?

[wanton cliff]

5800x beats 11900 but 10900 can sometimes beat the 5800x

[leaden oriole]

I don’t speak numbers?

Treat me like a child

[wanton cliff]

You may be able to play both those games with the 4570 but you would need to buy old, hard-to-find and completely obsolete stuff

I suggest talking to @wheat coral

[leaden oriole]

Oh ok

So@let’s just go@ahead and scrap@the idea for that cpu

The cpu you suggested will work

[desert gulch]

Ok

Yeah 10100 beats that cpu you have by a lot

[little osprey]

you wot m8

[leaden oriole]

Ok so from that part list what can we run

[little osprey]

11900k can beat 5800x too

[wanton cliff]

Depends on which benches you are talking about but they are quite comparable is what I’m saying

He needs to be more specific

Ryzen 7 what?

[little osprey]

@leaden oriole buy 5600x

[wanton cliff]

3700x?

[little osprey]

be done with it

[wanton cliff]

2700x?

[wanton cliff]

They don’t have that money

[little osprey]

uh

wot

[desert gulch]

Then 10400f

[wanton cliff]

Full build minus GPU and Case is supposed to be $600

They already have a 1650

[little osprey]

11500 automatically

will run siege fine

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little osprey]

idk about battlefield

[little osprey]

Say it in your first sentence 🙄

5600x

or 10-11400

[desert gulch]

How much 11500 go for?

[wanton cliff]

I tried making a build for both

[leaden oriole]

Guys idk what any of this means

[wanton cliff]

Over $700

[little osprey]

220

[desert gulch]

We are talking about cpus

[leaden oriole]

I’m broke and I wanna play battlefield.

[desert gulch]

Ight

[leaden oriole]

On a computer that does cool stuff and flows

Glows*

That’s all I know

[little osprey]

ur too broke for glowy stuff

[leaden oriole]

Ok that’s fine

[wanton cliff]

Lmao

Truth hurts

[leaden oriole]

It does

Ok so someone give me a link, and tell me what to do

Maybe... some case suggestions?

Info for an ignorant bro

Ok well @ me when y’all come back

[ripe wedge]

did someone make a list for you?

[ripe wedge]

its not horrible but like its old like Sara said and parts for it might be relatively cheap but I think its way better to just put that money towards something modern unless you have an extremely tight budget then id suggest finding a dell optiplex and throwing in a gpu

[leaden oriole]

Yea that’s what I said I’d like to go modern I’ll just sell the old cpu

But there was a lot of argument about what’s better on that list

[empty chasm]

whats better Cooler Master Master Case TD500 Mesh or Master Case H500 ARGB in terms of airflow and practicality?

[leaden oriole]

Hey Sara any suggestions on cases?

[wanton cliff]

P360a

or one of those montech cases

[stoic island]

@empty chasm both are pretty great, it's down to you between the two. Assuming you use the mesh panel with h500

It's down to within margin of error, but h500 comes out slightly for stock performance

@empty chasm GN did great reviews on both cases if you want to look more in depth
https://youtu.be/-iPggUimB4k
https://youtu.be/OABlbp_emE4

[empty chasm]

ty

[leaden oriole]

My brother has the first one I do like that

Ok one last question. This is obv how my budget looks rn, but am I locking myself in an uncomfortable spot for future upgrades, or computer capabilities?

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vtz6ZZ

Thoughts

[severe axle]

I would save the $100 on that cooler and get a 3070 instead

vetroo v5/gamaxx 400

[leaden oriole]

How much is the 3060 graphics card?

[uncut pelican]

349 at msrp i believe

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4GygcT

Updated version

[severe axle]

why did you go down to a sata m.2

[leaden oriole]

Oh wow

[cold imp]

is the game performance difference between 5600x and 5800x that much

most people say no

since its only .1 ghz

and 2 cores

[desert gulch]

I'd go b550

And 3600 c16 ram at least

[stoic island]

@cold imp
https://youtu.be/6x2BYNimNOU

Just look at the benches

[desert gulch]

And I'd get a pilot e 1tb for storage

[stoic island]

Whew, what's this for

[desert gulch]

And get a cheaper psu

A segotep gp would work nicely

[cold imp]

Ryzen

Is pilot e good choice for lower capacity as well

[desert gulch]

I'd go for a 1tb one

And get rid of hard drive

[stoic island]

Pilot e 500gb pricing isn't great

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[cold imp]

Ok

[stoic island]

Usually

[desert gulch]

I'd go sn750 for 500gb

[stoic island]

Eh

[desert gulch]

60 bucks rn

[stoic island]

Sn550/mp33/helix L imo

[desert gulch]

Id say worth

[stoic island]

Mp33 is like 52$

Lemme check

[uncut pelican]

Im building then selling https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jT6DdD

[violet harness]

Adata swordfish

[uncut pelican]

Updated lists

[stoic island]

57$

[uncut pelican]

?

[stoic island]

Swordfish is wack

[violet harness]

Eh

[desert gulch]

Oof

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican are you trying to sell that..?

[desert gulch]

So at that price I'd go sn750 tbh

[uncut pelican]

Yes

[stoic island]

Might as well

But swordfish wack nand

[uncut pelican]

I have tons of people looking to buy rn

Like at least 10

[stoic island]

What do they want

Like if they just want a gaming machine without anything else

Psu go for segotep sg-g

[uncut pelican]

Yeah most are going for gaming

[stoic island]

Mobo go b550m pro vdh wifi

[uncut pelican]

K one sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jT6DdD

[stoic island]

Ram is sad but oh well

Storage I'd just go single 1tb pilot e, maybe leave the hdd if you want to

More ssd = more selling point

Sad that neo air is gone now tho

[uncut pelican]

Alrighty

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/McWtYg

There

[stoic island]

Yea

[uncut pelican]

Very good thanks for the help

[stoic island]

You might also want to use a p360a if people want the R G B, b550m pro vdh wifi has argb headers @uncut pelican

[uncut pelican]

Not a bad idea

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cf6DdD

There

[still roost]

_Phil#0444 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[uncut pelican]

People telling me the board is crap e

[stoic island]

Who

It's for a 5600x for gods sake

It doesn't need godly VRMs

According to the vrm list, it has the same setup as a x470 gaming plus, 4 ONSemi 4C029N, which can take 100A fine, meaning 3950x/3900x stock, capable of 150A with decent airflow, which is 3900x OC

[uncut pelican]

👍

Ill try to get the gpu and cpu lol

[leaden oriole]

Ok so somebody do a comparison with me pls

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whL9ZZ

This

With this gpu

And the cooler master td500

Versus

The Alienware aurora

[severe axle]

what nvidia gpu and what cpu

[violet harness]

Gtx 980 used from eBay u could get for same price /cheaper and outperforms 1650s

I'm pretty sure

or equal perf

[leaden oriole]

Oh yeah forgot to@mention I already have the gpu

It was a gift

Budgeting is a bit tight

And the cpu is in the part list

[stoic island]

Wait so

[leaden oriole]

Basically my friend has the aurora I just want to know if I can play on the same@level as him

[stoic island]

You're comparing the list to a prebuilt..?

[leaden oriole]

Yes

[stoic island]

Because we have like no info on the prebuilt

That screenshot tells us basically nothing

What cpu, what gpu on the prebuilt?

[leaden oriole]

Oh right 16gb ram. 1tb drive capacity

And dim what a gpu is

[desert gulch]

what 1tb drive?

[stoic island]

Ram doesn't really matter, what cpu and gpu?

[leaden oriole]

Idk lemme check

[stoic island]

For gaming perf main things you have to look at are just cpu and gpu

Everything else don't matter too much

[leaden oriole]

He’s busy idk, he said full settings does that mean anything?

[stoic island]

Nothing

I can turn settings all the way up while playing on an iGPU or playing on a 30000$ machine :p

[leaden oriole]

Ok well give me a bit then

Fair enough

[stoic island]

All they need to do is open task manager and look at what cpu and what gpu

[leaden oriole]

Ok an intel core i7

RTX 2060 super 8GB

And dual 16gb ram

Sorry he wasn’t responding

[stoic island]

2060 super is a fair bit better than 1650 super

comparison
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-SUPER/4167vs4037vs4117

[leaden oriole]

Right I already know that

But in comparison how well would it run

[stoic island]

when I say fair I mean like, double

look at the comparison

[leaden oriole]

Like could we play Warzone

Oh

[stoic island]

You can play warzone with a 1650 super

it's just not going to run as well as his will

[leaden oriole]

Dang

Would you say i would get a decent price selling my gpu?

[stoic island]

eh

@leaden oriole take a look at this
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1650+super&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1

but if you sell it

chances are you might not get another card for a while

[leaden oriole]

Not half bad though

Ok so opened and brand new

That’s about 350-400$

Ugh

[ripe wedge]

not really worth it imo

thats like 3x the price it should be

[dense sparrow]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jDZJW3
heres mine atm
Is MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus good motherboard?

help me thanks, dm me since im going off

[fossil cedar]

Thats way too much for your motherboard

[dense sparrow]

huh?

[dense sparrow]

whats the best motherboard?

thats what im thinking btw

[fossil cedar]

Theres no best motherboard but it's way too much for a 3700x

[dense sparrow]

how

[fossil cedar]

Hold on I'll try change some thinfs

[dense sparrow]

k dm me since im going off

[fossil cedar]

Well it's almost the price of the cpu