#building-and-recc-chat

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scenic turret
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file can't be that big

frank stirrup
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or your ram?

ancient wraith
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nno

frank stirrup
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or the gcard

ancient wraith
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but i updated bio

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bios

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no

scenic turret
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or unwanted restart

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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what could i use too open the file

frank stirrup
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its a beta bios right?

ancient wraith
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i think

frank stirrup
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like send me what bios you updated to

ancient wraith
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where can i check

scenic turret
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oh lol that probably crashed it then

delicate plume
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Ok I entered

frank stirrup
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what motherboard you got?

scenic turret
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which makes more sense since theres nothing in event viewer

frank stirrup
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Ill check whether the latest bios is a beta

ancient wraith
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auros b550 elite

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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sorry im bad at this stuff

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yes

scenic turret
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Lmao finally Asus gave a warning on beta

ancient wraith
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can i check version some where

scenic turret
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This is the one you updated right?

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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So over here you see how some bioses have a letter after the number?

ancient wraith
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yes

frank stirrup
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like F12 doesnt have a letter at the end but F13 has F and a G

ancient wraith
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ok

frank stirrup
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that means F13 bios is in beta

ancient wraith
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oh ok

frank stirrup
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because it has a letter at the end

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so F12 is stable

ancient wraith
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so should i reinstall it

scenic turret
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Yep also indicated by Update AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.1 PatchA

ancient wraith
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or something

delicate plume
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Ty who ever told me to go to Newegg shuffle!

scenic turret
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Patch A is beta rn

frank stirrup
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so download F12 and update to that

ancient wraith
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ok whats the website

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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i kinda forgot how

scenic turret
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nice lol

frank stirrup
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oh lol nice

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so what you wanna do is get a pendrive

ancient wraith
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what

frank stirrup
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dont use the windows app center bios app for this

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get a pendrive

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you have one?

ancient wraith
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do i use app center or no

frank stirrup
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no

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get a pendrive

ancient wraith
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whats that

frank stirrup
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a usb drive?

ancient wraith
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like what i used too install windows

frank stirrup
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yeah

ancient wraith
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i got that

frank stirrup
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get it out

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and format it to fat32

ancient wraith
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should i delete windows off of it tho

frank stirrup
scenic turret
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yes

ancient wraith
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ok

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hold on i got too find it

frank stirrup
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format it to fat 32

ancient wraith
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how

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ok its empty

frank stirrup
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put it into ur pc

ancient wraith
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like this

frank stirrup
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there should be a usb port which is white on the back of ur pc

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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is all of that fine should i click format

frank stirrup
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put the stick into the port which white

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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ok hold on

frank stirrup
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click start

ancient wraith
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it just in the one on the top of my pc

frank stirrup
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find the white port at the back of your pc

ancient wraith
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its labeled bios

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lol

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ok its in that one

frank stirrup
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yeah put the pendrive in that

ancient wraith
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ok

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i did it

frank stirrup
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Ok now you have the F12 bios file downloaded?

ancient wraith
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no

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the link u sent hold on

frank stirrup
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here

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drag everything in that zip archive onto ur pendrive now

ancient wraith
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ok

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i think it good

frank stirrup
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Ok now what you want to do is go into the bios

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like restart pc and spam F2

ancient wraith
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wait i didnt format it yet

frank stirrup
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format and then copy all the info from the F12 bios download onto pendrive again

ancient wraith
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ok

desert gulch
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I usually spam delete

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It's more common across computers

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To get into bios

ancient wraith
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i just opened fivem on accident hold on

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there is something missing in the folder

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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it had 4 before

frank stirrup
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Download the file again and copy over everything

ancient wraith
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its still missing the 4th one

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lol

frank stirrup
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format pendrive again

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and drag everything

ancient wraith
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its all there now

wicked frigate
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What the cheapest pc u can build that decent???

frank stirrup
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Ok so now restart pc and spam F2

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get on discord on ur phone so I can help you to get to the next step

wicked frigate
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Does anyone know if I can even buy the omnipoint switches

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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Lmao

frank stirrup
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F12 is different from F2

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You made the same error last time

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smh

ancient wraith
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I'm tired

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Ok I'm in it

frank stirrup
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ok send me a pic

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of the options on the top

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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go into system info and send a pic

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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one sec lemme tell you exactly where it is

ancient wraith
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It say f13 e

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My pc is making a funny noise

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Like brrrrrrr

frank stirrup
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thats fine

ancient wraith
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Ok

frank stirrup
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send a pic of the boot section

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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send a pic of settings

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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send a pic of settings

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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nah I was right its in system info

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send a photo like this of system info

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also have you manually overclocked your ram?

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1.38V for 3600mhz ram seems like too much

ancient wraith
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I just did XMP

frank stirrup
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send a photo like this of system info

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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select Q-flash

ancient wraith
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Ok

uncut pelican
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Ooo

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Newegg shuffle time

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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yeah choose update bios

cold sorrel
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.... It's stupid but I'm more tempted than I should be by the 3060 in today's shuffle. I hate this shortage. I hate I let myself be talked into waiting for the Ampere launch and am now screwed for who knows how long before I can build the new system I want..

uncut pelican
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Just enter

uncut pelican
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Nothing

ancient wraith
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Why the mouse cursor so slow in this

frank stirrup
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its still a 30 series card

scenic turret
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Enter and go for it, better try than nothing

cold sorrel
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It's 500 bucks.

scenic turret
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Yea NG pricing has always been the highest

uncut pelican
frank stirrup
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and enter

near jasper
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I am looking at purchasing an 11th gen i7. Can anybody direct me to speed comparisons for the 65W (i7-11700) and 125W (i7-11700K) versions?

ancient wraith
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Ok

frank stirrup
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you would be better of with a 10th gen

cold sorrel
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But, at least the price isn't as ridiculous as that Gigabyte 3060 from earlier in the week. That one was like 3070 MSRP.

scenic turret
frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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And then click update

frank stirrup
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yes

scenic turret
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Correction: reliable data for 11700 not yet available

ancient wraith
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Can I eat now

near jasper
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@frank stirrup 10th gen only supports the HDMI1.4 not the 2.0 and only supports the PCIe3.0 not the 4.0, and I want the faster boot speeds.

ancient wraith
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While it does this

frank stirrup
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In the words of the great GamersNexus

scenic turret
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Yea thats the thing, 11700k and 11900k are some of the worse value CPUS, I would rather wait for Alder Lake next year

cold sorrel
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Eh, I guess I can enter. Even if I do win it... if I change my mind I can just let it go.

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
near jasper
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@frank stirrup aren't the read and write speeds almost double for 4.0 over 3.0 when booting from m.2 2280?

frank stirrup
delicate plume
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Question

near jasper
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@frank stirrup thanks for the help!

frank stirrup
delicate plume
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In Newegg restock,how often do they change the gpu

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I meant Newegg shuffle

frank stirrup
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pretty random

near jasper
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Anyone using the new UHD 4k display by ASUS (VP28UQG) with HDMI (3840 x 2160 Dpi)?>

sharp bear
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are those issues?

frank stirrup
marble seal
sharp bear
frank stirrup
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its an issue

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@wide sparrow please help

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we have a spammer

ancient wraith
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Ok

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Ima go check on it

wide sparrow
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Crap messed up

ancient wraith
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It's done @frank stirrup

frank stirrup
sharp bear
frank stirrup
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renable XMP and ur good to go!

frank stirrup
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to a Z390

frank stirrup
sharp bear
frank stirrup
wanton cliff
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And anime channel

frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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Any other bios setting that are good too change

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What is amd raid xpert3

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2

frank stirrup
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No wait not Z390\

ancient wraith
frank stirrup
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My bad

sharp bear
frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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This means it's enabled right

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
ancient wraith
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Can I take the usb out

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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get one which doesnt throw up that error

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sorry im not that great with intel... Im an amd guy

ancient wraith
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Thanks for the help

frank stirrup
sharp bear
fossil cedar
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A z590 if possible for around same price, better chipset

sharp bear
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which one for example

stoic island
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Eh

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Z590 expensive

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Another option is b560 if you don't care about OCing

sharp bear
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is this still an issue

sharp bear
desert gulch
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if you dont care about oc'ing the cpu go b560

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if you want to oc the cpu go z490

stoic island
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Lemme grab a b560

sharp bear
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is overclocking important ?

stoic island
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No

desert gulch
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not rly

stoic island
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It's only for fun

desert gulch
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just makes cpu faster than stock

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which can yield a lil performance boost

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a lot of benchmarkers like to oc

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to get the highest scoire

fossil cedar
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The automatic performance booster in modern cpus is pretty good tho so unless you're a tinkerer or something dw bout it

desert gulch
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yeah

sharp bear
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i am not thinking about overclocking at all

desert gulch
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ok

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then b560

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Ick most b560 boards oos

desert gulch
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is the way to go

stoic island
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Sad

desert gulch
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sad

stoic island
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Pro4 steel legend oos

fossil cedar
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Z490 then i guess?

stoic island
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And b560 aorus pro is same price is z490-a lol

desert gulch
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oof

sharp bear
desert gulch
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might be worth z490 lol

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b560 oos

stoic island
fossil cedar
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Probs z490^

stoic island
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Oos -> out of stock

desert gulch
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yes

fossil cedar
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I still can't believe how little usb ports there are on intel motherboards sigh

sharp bear
stoic island
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..?

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MSI doesn't have any problems with z490 boards, the overheating was on x570

sharp bear
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alright

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what are you thoughts about the build ?

stoic island
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Oh wait you're in Germany? Lemme check if b560 is available in any local retailers

sharp bear
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yeah

fossil cedar
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I'd recommend 1tb ssd if you can afford

desert gulch
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yeah

stoic island
desert gulch
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most ppl are fine with 1tb

sharp bear
desert gulch
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get rid of 500gb ssd and hdd

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imo

stoic island
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I like 1tb ssd, it's a nice to have

desert gulch
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unless you need 2tb for mass storage

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then get the hdd aswell

fossil cedar
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^

sharp bear
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i see

fossil cedar
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And ssd is soooo much faster than hdd

desert gulch
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if you did want to use the hdd alot for mass storage id go 7200rpm too

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7200rpm is faster than 5400rpm

fossil cedar
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^

stoic island
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Pilot e/Sabrent rocket 1tb is 130$

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@desert gulch smr drives wack though >:p

desert gulch
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lol

sharp bear
stoic island
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And hdd should be used for mass storage

desert gulch
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yup

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i use mine as a 3rd backup for important files

stoic island
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@sharp bear Yes, but b560 saves you 50 euros

sharp bear
desert gulch
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i wouldnt get a boot drive like that

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id get a 1tb m.2 nvme

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use it for windows and everything else

stoic island
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Yea...

desert gulch
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a drive just for boot isnt worth

stoic island
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A400 kinda sucks too

desert gulch
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yea

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a pilot e fully loaded would beat it in boot

stoic island
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I reccomend a 1tb sabrent rocket or pilot e at 130 euros

sharp bear
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alright

tiny forge
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I am thinking of switching from my 2 failing 4tb WD Black HDDs to 2 6tb Seagate IronWolf NAS HDDs.. Good deal or no?

little osprey
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No

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No

stoic island
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Might also be worth looking at some Toshiba N300's

little osprey
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^

stoic island
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afaik seagate nas drives are just meh

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not bad not good

tiny forge
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Alright

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thank you

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I'm a big gamer, would NAS affect my performance over my WD Black?

stoic island
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uh no

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nas is just reliability

tiny forge
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alright, good to know.

rich helm
stoic island
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well, some other nas things but mostly reliability

tiny forge
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I've heard good and bad things about network attached storage, so that's why I'm asking

stoic island
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Like NAS drives are just meant for being stuffed into a NAS and chugging along for ages, iirc they feature some anti-vibration and anti-heat technology.

little osprey
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they also aren't meant to be turned on and off so often

wanton cliff
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Which is about 20tb large

tiny forge
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^

stoic island
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smh stop buying games

tiny forge
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lol

wanton cliff
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Steam sales got me down bad

tiny forge
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Why is it 415 dollars for a 4tb SSD

still roostBOT
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Mr. Wizard#9610 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tiny forge
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damn

stoic island
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that's normal

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100$ per tb sounds right

tiny forge
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Fair enough

sharp tundra
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Afternoon ladies

tiny forge
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😐

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Good afternoon

wanton cliff
tiny forge
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All that desk banging.. But at what cost? Now I'm gonna pay 370 USD for 2 new hard drives

sharp tundra
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So are you referring to me as someone who is a fan of anime and Manga or unemployed and uneducated person?

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Cause I am neither lol

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@wanton cliff

wanton cliff
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‘Tis a joke, my comrade

wide sparrow
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Is it now 🤔

ancient crown
little osprey
wanton cliff
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Apparently

little osprey
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imagine saying controversial jokes

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now back to floppa

frank stirrup
north echo
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So my Lian Li ODC razer case is arriving tomorrow......What AIO cooler does everyone recommend? Its a case that doesnt really lend itself to air cooling as much as water, and I currently have a ryzen 5 3600x. I do plan on upgrading to a ryzen 7 eventually for my wifes video work.
LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic*

little osprey
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As for the AIO you should buy

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north echo
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why this one if i may ask

viral ore
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because it looks poggers

rich helm
lofty brook
rich helm
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Change it to public

lofty brook
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darn, hang on lol

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should be fixed

rich helm
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Try posting the link again

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Not fixed for me

lofty brook
rich helm
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Cause if not this is cursed

lofty brook
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why?

rich helm
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Hyper 212 on a 10700k…

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Makes me cringe

lofty brook
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Is it not going to be enough?

rich helm
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It would be slightly lacking and you def wouldn’t be able to oc

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Not very good temps

lofty brook
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I mean, I've got everything on there besides the motherboard and windows. I'm still not far out from when i bought the cooler so i can send it back.

rich helm
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Well I might suggest returning a couple other things too, like the ram for example

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I would just buy a 32 gb 4x 8 set so that all dies are the same

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Lpx is know for having batches of different dies

desert gulch
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i would change a bunch of things on that list

rich helm
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So you can’t xmp them

little osprey
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hello anybody here wants laptop ram ?

desert gulch
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all the storage id change

desert gulch
little osprey
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No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

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ok

lofty brook
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Well, what about the motherboard?

desert gulch
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there is none there

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id get a msi z490

balmy patio
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z490-a pro is nice

rich helm
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Next I would change the ssd to a 500gb or 1tb mushkin pilot e

desert gulch
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id also not get a barracuda

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they kinda suck in failure rates

rich helm
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Yeah what hd does vintage reccomend

desert gulch
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id get the western digital equivalent

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wd i think

rich helm
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I thought it was a4tb toshiba

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For like 65

desert gulch
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maybe

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prolly a 5400rpm thou

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id just get a 1tb pilot e and forget about the hdd

rich helm
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Yeah also change the psu to phanteks amp

desert gulch
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that ones good too

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if they already have it

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also pls do not pay 110 for windows... ebay keys exist

balmy patio
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i'd also change the cooler to a vetroo v5

desert gulch
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yeah we aready told em a 212 on a 10700k isnt gonna go down well

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if they oc

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which im guessing they will since they got the k

balmy patio
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yee

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mugen 5 at least smh

desert gulch
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v5 cheaper rn i think

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23$ pog

rich helm
desert gulch
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you can get a 144hz panel for that

balmy patio
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segotep 750w might also be a nice choice to save money

desert gulch
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yea

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its just a pretty nice build so a tier a is in there rn

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but a b tier would work fine

rich helm
desert gulch
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ig but still id return it

rich helm
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I would personally but if they are lazy and don’t want better use of their money that’s on them

desert gulch
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ye

keen wasp
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I have no idea what this is lol

stoic island
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usb 3.0 internal it seems

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or is it usb 3.1

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too many usb standards

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It plugs into the motherboard

keen wasp
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Oh is it? I’ve only ever had the regular USB connectors tyvm

stoic island
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Yea just looked it up to make sure, it's usb 3.1 internal

keen wasp
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Ty. Now I’m gonna find out where it goes in the next day

wanton cliff
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irony

vagrant olive
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the onlything universal about it is that theres a universe of different forms of it

wanton cliff
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Lmao

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Not wrong

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HDMI is more universal than USB

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High Definition Multimedia Interface

stoic island
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Yea

sharp tundra
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Why is it called Datavac, when it blows?thinkies

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Asking the universes most important questions here

little osprey
stoic island
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Good nuff

potent portal
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Good luck getting a 3060ti for $400, even 3060s are going for $500+

stoic island
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If they believe they can find it, I won't stop them :p

potent portal
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Right, my good luck was entirely un-sarcastic. If you can find it at that price you earned it.

little osprey
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my ap finals can suck it i want my damn graphics card

stoic island
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FE cards are online only, not sure about the others

little osprey
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also does the vetroo have pre applied paste or nah

rich helm
earnest olive
flat pendant
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Hello people, I got a problem with my PC not displaying anything. I have a Ryzen 7 3700x with a Asus X570i gaming Mobo with 16gb of Corsair Vengeance Ram with a 2070 super. I’ve been using my first ever built Pc for about 5 months everything working fine until about a week ago the computer wouldn’t show any display but the fans were spinning and mobo lights were on with the DRAM QLED on aswell. Tried the basic troubleshooting with replacing the ram sticks and just turning it on with only 1 stick in but no luck. So I decided to buy new ram and still have the same problem. I even reset cmos and still nothing...Any help?

wanton cliff
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Oh wait

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I didn’t read the whole thing

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I have a smol brain

muted patio
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CPU might have died, the memory controller is on the CPU and can cause the DRAM light to come on as well. MIght be worth pulling it and reseating it just to see if it helps.

flat pendant
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Haha all good

muted patio
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If you have BIOS flashback, a fresh start wouldn't hurt with the latest update

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Doesn't look like that board does tho but I'm looking

flat pendant
muted patio
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Hmmmm

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if a new CPU doesn't fix it, the board itself may have gone kaput. SOmething in the VRM.

flat pendant
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Yeah

muted patio
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Kinda rare but that's a tiny ITX board

flat pendant
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Ugh

muted patio
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Yeah, doing a quick bit of looking

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Hmm, it does have a VRM cooling backplate tho

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With a VRM fan. I wonder if the VRM fan went kapout and some of it died? I'd be filing a warranty claim if I were in your shoes

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Can you hear it come on when the motherboard is powered?

wanton cliff
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Doesn’t VRM fan only come on after boot?

flat pendant
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VRM fan? Sorry I’m pretty beginner level lol

muted patio
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Yeah, you can't even see it

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There's a tiny fan under the cover lol

flat pendant
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Yeah let me tell you resetting cmos on this mobo was terrible lmao

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Ahhh that yeah

potent portal
muted patio
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IKR

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I'd still be filing a warranty claim with ASUS about it

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New CPU and new RAM and no boot = dead board

flat pendant
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Painnnn

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Yeah basically just built a whole new Pc again haha

muted patio
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yeah, sounds like it

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Hopefully you can return the others as well

fossil cedar
flat pendant
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Yeahh..Well thanks for the help and advice guys appreciate it

muted patio
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From what I read on ASUS forums, people were complaining about the sound it made

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SO if you can't hear it, might be ded

ripe relic
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bad or good

potent portal
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Faster memory, Ryzen loves fast memory. 3600-3800 (or higher and downclock/tighten timings)

ripe relic
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I need faster?

potent portal
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You can get 10% more fps going from 3200 to 3600

ripe relic
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any suggestions?

muted patio
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3600 C16 should be just a few bucks more

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and better performance

ripe relic
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I know nothing about pcs lmao

potent portal
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That's ok, you were smart enough to come here for help

ripe relic
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but the rest is good

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right

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besides the fact that the gpu will be impossible to get

potent portal
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The rest looked ok, I assume you picked the case for looks?

ripe relic
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I just picked the case because I had like this mid tower case or something and everyone told me it had garbage airflow

wanton cliff
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H510?

ripe relic
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so my friend just picked that

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yes

wanton cliff
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Lmao

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They weren’t wrong

ripe relic
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i know that now

ripe relic
potent portal
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Personally I like the meshify c, corsair 4000d airflow works well too

muted patio
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Should be 8,88 ns

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That's 10

ripe relic
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so this?

muted patio
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Yes but that price seems high

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Unless you want black, it's more expensive for some reason

wanton cliff
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What’s the budget?

potent portal
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Pcpp has been having... issues

muted patio
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But it's white instead

ripe relic
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under $1,400

wanton cliff
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1400 you could just get a 32gb kit and call it a day

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Obviously there’s more to it than that

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But still

ripe relic
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what's good for 32gb?

wanton cliff
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Same as 16gb

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TridentZ and Ballistix mainly

ripe relic
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so I just get that but twice?

wanton cliff
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Ripjaws as well

wanton cliff
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32gb kits

ripe relic
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but they are more expenisve then just getting 2 of the 16gb kits

potent portal
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16GB is good for gaming and leaves room in budget for other things

ripe relic
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well i was thinking about streaming

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so does that need more memory?

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or

potent portal
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Shouldn't use that much more if you're using nvenc (nvidia encoder) on the GPU

wanton cliff
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Streaming high-end games or VR requires more memory, yes

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VR alone requires more memory

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Nvenc will help but it doesn’t negate limitations, if any

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Not completely

ripe relic
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well any recommendations for 32gb then?

muted patio
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ballistix

ripe relic
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but like

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specific

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I'm not familiar with pc parts

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i have no clue what I'm doing

muted patio
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Working on it

wanton cliff
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Send PCPP kit link rather than Newegg

potent portal
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pcpp has been having problems reading inventory, it shows almost everything out of stock

muted patio
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Probs because it is

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Tons of stufff out of stock, that's why I drop links while I search

ripe relic
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idrc about rgb if i'm being honest

wanton cliff
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It’s not necessary but muh RGB gives 50% performance boost in all games!!!!!1!111!1!1!!!1!1!1!

ripe relic
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and do I need more case fans or is 3 enough

wanton cliff
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Eh

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Which case is it?

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Some come with enough fans, some don’t

ripe relic
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darkFlash DLM 22 MicroATX Mid Tower Case

potent portal
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Budget version of the meshify c

ripe relic
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I already have a motherboard

muted patio
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Wait

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That board won't fit in that case

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XD

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Let's find you a new one

ripe relic
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alright thanks

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Lol

muted patio
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NO RGB yeah?

ripe relic
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I said I wasn't a fan of it

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I didnt say there was going to none

wanton cliff
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Was the other case mATX or something?

muted patio
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Ye, just checking

potent portal
wanton cliff
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Guessed as much

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P400a non-digital is nice for a blackout theme

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I have that same board, looks nice

muted patio
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basically a cheaper Phanteks

wanton cliff
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Also @ripe relic note that the motherboard you have does have RGB that you may want to disable

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Would need to download Aura tho which is a cringe software

ripe relic
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i don't mind, I just didn't want to purposely go out of my way to get rgb

muted patio
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Got it

wanton cliff
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Ironically, some RGB components can be less expensive than their non-RGB counterparts

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Ripjaws vs TridentZ, for example, is a common example of this (tho it’s not always true)

muted patio
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For $60 that metallic gear case is hard to beat. Metallic Gear is a sub of Phanteks

wanton cliff
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Is it?

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Had no idea

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I’ll consider them for my next build if I don’t go with a P360a

ripe relic
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this is a good case right?

wanton cliff
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Yep

muted patio
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yes

wanton cliff
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Is that the P400 offshoot or the P360a offshoot?

ripe relic
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that's all that needs to be fixed right?

potent portal
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Between the case and the RAM, yeah everything else looked good to me

ripe relic
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ok but quick question

wanton cliff
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Yes?

ripe relic
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if I can't get a 3060 what would be a good replacement

wanton cliff
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3060Ti?

ripe relic
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yes

wanton cliff
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3070 even if you don’t care about how much bang for your buck you get

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1400 is a pretty nice budget

potent portal
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There's not really anything in the new gen lower than 3060 so if 3070 is over budget you'd have to look for older stuff

wanton cliff
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Like a $1000 build with a lot of headroom, really

ripe relic
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haha

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any suggestions on how to get a 3060ti lmao?

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or is it just luck

muted patio
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Lots of patience

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Took me a while to get my 3070

potent portal
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Newegg shuffle, microcenter if it's close, besides that yeah patience

ripe relic
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alright, thanks for the help

fossil cedar
ripe relic
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and I live in south carolina I don't think there is any microcenters near me

muted patio
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I got a head start on a BB drop back when they were regular Tuesdays

brittle tinsel
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why is my 3.3v and 12v running more than those voltages?

muted patio
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Cuz they will a little bit

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12.1-12.2 is normal

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Don't worry about it XD

brittle tinsel
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12.0500 and 3.3400 are mine currently

muted patio
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Perfect

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Forget about it 😉

brittle tinsel
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5v hasnt moved

cold imp
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Is there a massive advantage air vs aio for CPU
Apart from aesthetic

muted patio
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Can be yes

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AIO takes much longer to heat soak and cools better with quality units

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Air coolers can be cheaper but reach thermal mass much more quickly

brittle tinsel
muted patio
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Air coolers take up a lot more room, AIO's take up less and look more clean

cold imp
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And does it make sense to hook up an aio rad to the top exhaust

muted patio
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yes

potent portal
muted patio
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100%

cold imp
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Ok

muted patio
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Mine is, works great.

brittle tinsel
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this is all i need

potent portal
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That's what I thought too lol

cold imp
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Do y’all have any recommendations for a clean cpu aio
240 or 360

brittle tinsel
cold imp
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Well of course you have recommendations

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But what are they

muted patio
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Arctic Freezer II

brittle tinsel
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gpu hasnt gone above 30c and on my old rig it was 70c

muted patio
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Or EK 240mm

cold imp
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Ok

potent portal
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5600X go for 240, 5800X/5900X 360

cold imp
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Ok so for a 240mm

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Yeah isn’t EK like a big thing in water

potent portal
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Yep, one of the biggest brands in custom loops

muted patio
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EK or Arctic Freezer IMO

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Both are great

cold imp
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Ok

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Thx

muted patio
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Arctic has an offset mount for Ryzen that drops temps 3 degrees, it's kinda neat

cold imp
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Time to go shopping for stuff I can’t afford 😄

muted patio
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DO it all the time

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Looking at new trucks RN

brittle tinsel
wanton cliff
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420 is too big for my case

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I could do open air but I’m not Bryce

brittle tinsel
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im just saying, the 240/360 should be cheaper

potent portal
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280 is too big for my case lol (long GPU)

little osprey
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I have 450 for a pc, I dont care about upgrade path, I dont care about looks, I just want the best pc I can build with 450 USD

wanton cliff
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Gigabyte GPU short, thankfully

potent portal
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MSI 2070 Gaming Z, not short at all. If only it was like, 6mm shorter I could do a 360 rad.

fossil cedar
little osprey
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I already have a series x

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I only want to play csgo, valorant, mc, league and maybe siege

fossil cedar
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Ehhhh you can't for that price

potent portal
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You can do a i3 10100 with integrated graphics. Nice try troll.

little osprey
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Troll?

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Why would I troll?

little osprey
fossil cedar
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cheapest gpu you can get is a used rx 580 (that's decent) for around 200

potent portal
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April first, knee jerk reaction is everyone is joking

fossil cedar
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Lol

little osprey
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Understandable

fossil cedar
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Integrated graphics will get you a solid 40fps in csgo low everything lol

little osprey
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Ok, well I was sorta trolling, I just wanted to see your guys reaction, but I do have an actual wuestion

fossil cedar
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Bruhq

little osprey
potent portal
wanton cliff
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I would try and get a 11th Gen tbh for UHD 730

fossil cedar
little osprey
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So, I have 2 mobo headed this way, a x79, and a b560, I have 2 options, better cpu lesser gpu, or better gpu lesser cpu?

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Which one

potent portal
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There's no 11100 yet tho

fossil cedar
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For more

potent portal
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Better GPU all the way

little osprey
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Alright

fossil cedar
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For gaming better gpu

wanton cliff
potent portal
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On a $450 build budget?

wanton cliff
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Oh is it that?

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Nevermind

fossil cedar
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Yeah

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That's why i responded with xbox/playstation

wanton cliff
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Mmmm

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Also CS:GO has texture streaming

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Not too much of a need for a mega great GPU

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10100 will do just fine

fossil cedar
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Yeah but not 100 fps 1080p

wanton cliff
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60fps 1080p?

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Low settings?

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I could do it on my 4700u

fossil cedar
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More like 40 or 50

little osprey
fossil cedar
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Mb 60

potent portal
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Yeah we were still in your hypothetical $450 build though lol

little osprey
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I have 2 headed this way, 1 I can't cancel, so I figured might as well keep them both, a x79 mobo, and a b560

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If I went x79 mobo, I would get a xeon and a better cpu

stoic island
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Uh

little osprey
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If I went b560, I would get i3 10100 and lesser gpu

stoic island
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What

wanton cliff
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Xeon is server CPU

potent portal
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Xeon is not good for gaming at all

wanton cliff
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Not gaming

stoic island
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Xeon would be worse for gaming

wanton cliff
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Def B560

fossil cedar
stoic island
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X79 is also older Xeon

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Like

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Decade old Xeon

little osprey
wanton cliff
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But still

stoic island
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It is pretty bad for gaming

wanton cliff
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Decade old Xeon?

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Nada

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No

exotic bison
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Hey so I reset the cmos battery on my friend’s motherboard and it started up but when we turned it off to plug in the flash drive to update bios. It will now not display again. Any ideas?

wanton cliff
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Nyet

stoic island
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X79 released 2011, so literally decade old xD

little osprey
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And it runs on x79

stoic island
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Are you sure about that

little osprey
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Positive

wanton cliff
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What

stoic island
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Because I really doubt that

little osprey
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Look it up

stoic island
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Link source?

wanton cliff
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Source it

little osprey
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Lemme go get it

wanton cliff
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Cause that’s cap

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🧢

stoic island
fossil cedar
little osprey
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This us the one I watched

wanton cliff
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Lmao

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Kekw

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Big kek

little osprey
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Just watch it

wanton cliff
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They literally have 57 subscribers

little osprey
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So?

wanton cliff
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I have no reason to trust them at all

little osprey
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It's still a benchmark

wanton cliff
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I don’t know their test method, I don’t know any other things they might have added to or taken away from the test, I don’t know any external factors like heat

potent portal
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Note CPU usage is really low

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That's a GPU bound title

fossil cedar
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But why tf would you use an ancient 500$ cpu instead of a recent one

stoic island
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Yea it's siege at 1080p

muted patio
muted patio
little osprey
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😐

stoic island
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Gtx 1080

wanton cliff
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Big kek

little osprey
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Anyways, since you guys wanna clown me and idk why

fossil cedar
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Lul

stoic island
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Actually I think LTT might've made a good video on why

muted patio
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Not clowning

wanton cliff
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We aren’t clowning

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Lmao

fossil cedar
brittle tinsel
little osprey
muted patio
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The CPU use is really low, it's not a good test

wanton cliff
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Just telling you that you are, quite simply, very wrong

little osprey
stoic island
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@little osprey watch this and it'll make more sense
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little osprey
wanton cliff
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That’s clowning?

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No

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Kek

little osprey
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Then what is it

stoic island
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Watch the video

wanton cliff
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That’s me saying that it’s funny that you send that because that’s a horribly made video

stoic island
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And it'll make sense

wanton cliff
little osprey
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Anyways, I was only trying to prove a point

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But

stoic island
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Also Sara assumptions are bad :p

muted patio
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It's not a good test

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That's the bottom line

little osprey
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I have 600 for a pc, don't need a mobo, parts?

potent portal
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One game doesn't prove anything btw, gotta compare at least 5 with different engines

little osprey
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I have b560 mobo

muted patio
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Then get 10400

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with 3200 mhz ram

little osprey
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Gpu?

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Ssd?

muted patio
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and wait patiently for a GPU

stoic island
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10400+3060 or 11400+3060

little osprey
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Psu?

little osprey
stoic island
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I'm too lazy to make a pcpp list

brittle tinsel
muted patio
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600 budget won't get you a GPU right now. Not even a used one with prices the way they are. That's enough to finish the PC and use the Intel Integrated graphics. Not being rude, just the truth.

little osprey
muted patio
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CPU, RAM, PSU, Case, etc

stoic island
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10400-140$
Mobo-0
2x8gb 3200mhz 70$
Mp33 512gb 52$
Evga 3060 xc 330$
Mx330-g air 50$
Segotep sg-g 600w 52$

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Pcpp mobile too annoying, I just typed it out in text :p

potent portal
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Let me put it this way:
I checked the value of my Radeon 5770 from 2012 and it's going for about $125 on ebay

little osprey
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5770?

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How much vram lol

stoic island
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10400 price was down to ~120$ last I checked

potent portal
muted patio
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That was a Microcenter deal I think

stoic island
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But don't remeber

muted patio
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back to $140 now

little osprey
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🥵

stoic island
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Aw

muted patio
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Yeah

stoic island
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Also haven't checked ram price

muted patio
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Ram is up

stoic island
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Might be able to get a cheaper kit

muted patio
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Ballistix is $100 now

stoic island
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I'll check it when I'm back on pc

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Yea but the ballistix 3000c15 kit was 70$

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I think aegis 3200c16 was like 63$

brittle tinsel
little osprey
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I also figured out I bought not a very good b560 mobo, I knew that to begin with, but I wasn't about to pay 120 for a b460

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The asrock b560 hdv

stoic island
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It's fine

muted patio
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yep

stoic island
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It's not bad

little osprey
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vrms

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Are not the best

stoic island
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Pretty sure it's like 6+2 decent stages

wanton cliff
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B560 Pro4 not 120, still good board

stoic island
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Not a concern for the CPUs were looking at

wanton cliff
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Less than 120 iirc

little osprey
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Also, how do you connect rgb fans to a mobo without a rgb/argb header??

stoic island
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You don't connect the rgb

little osprey
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You cant?

stoic island
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You just can't have the rgb

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Fan is still a fan

little osprey
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Ik

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Damn

potent portal
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You can get an argb controller that connects to the USB 2.0 header though can't you? I Thought I saw that somewhere

stoic island
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Eh, not controllable via mobo tho

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There are sata powered hubs

exotic bison
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Hey so the cmos pin reset work for a second but when we powered down to put the usb to update bios it wouldn’t display this time. Any ideas on what to do now?

junior crescent
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Could someone make a pc list for 1600-1750 usd for Gaming at 1440p ultra and streaming, I usually play DCS World, R6, GTA 5 and X-plane 11

little osprey
wanton cliff
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These prices are wack as hell

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On PCPP

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Ballistix 32gb 3600 CL16 for $266.92?

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Cap

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🧢

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5600x for $409?

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🧢

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Literally every X570 mobo for over $300?

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🧢

potent portal
little osprey
potent portal
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If you don't have RGB headers then there is no software

little osprey
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True

wicked frigate
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Guys do I think dark hero is the best mobo for 5900x

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Or 5950x

wanton cliff
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I think any mobo that fits what you need and isn’t bad is a good mobo for it

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx

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And

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Is 5900x the gaming king

wanton cliff
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As of right now, it looks to be that way, yes

wicked frigate
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Do you know which one will be the gaming king and intel

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Coming up

wanton cliff
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No one does

wicked frigate
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If U know

wanton cliff
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Benches aren’t out yet

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Not even the higher ups at Intel or AMD know

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Though they can probs make educated guesses

wicked frigate
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Ok

odd abyss
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fit together

wicked frigate
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What’s the guess

odd abyss
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what are u wondering

wanton cliff
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The RAM is kinda cringe but the rest is perfect

odd abyss
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hey @wanton cliff

wanton cliff
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I saw

odd abyss
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do all those fit together

wanton cliff
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Yeah

odd abyss
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k ty

wanton cliff
wicked frigate
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Ok

wanton cliff
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And no sense in trying to wait @wicked frigate because Zen3 just released a little while ago and 11th Gen just released literally the other day

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Gonna be a while before the next generation

wicked frigate
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Because I am getting dark hero

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Tomorrow

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And it’s msrp price

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I couldn’t find it anywhere else

wicked frigate
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What a really good mobo brand I should get

wanton cliff
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Asus is generally good but as always

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As we’ve told you hundreds of times

little osprey
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5900XT + 3090ti + DDR5 6400mhz the best

wanton cliff
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5900 XT (if there ever is one) won’t use DDR5 tho

little osprey
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It's called a joke

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AMD 6000(I think that's what they'll be called) series will be, not the current AM4s

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Ik that much

wanton cliff
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Wonder if the next socket will be AM5 or AM4+

little osprey
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Probably AM4+

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That's what they did with AM3

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ALTHOUGH, they did say the 5000 series will be the end of AM4

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So maybe AM5?

wanton cliff
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Am3 =/= Am3+

wicked frigate
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@wanton cliff what model should I get

urban quest
muted patio
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AMD said so

wanton cliff
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Just a little watermark in the bottom

urban quest
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Ik i just want it for the personalization thing

wanton cliff
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Still, you can get a key for like $5 off eBay

urban quest
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I heard they dont last long kr sometimes don't work

blazing aurora
wanton cliff
urban quest
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Oh fr

blazing aurora
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just please don't ever pay $100 for windows

wanton cliff
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I got mine from r/hardwareswap for $10

blazing aurora
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I got win10pro for 14.44

urban quest
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What damn

wanton cliff
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Anyways I gtg

urban quest
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Thanks

blazing aurora
urban quest
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Any links or is that against the rules

wicked frigate
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@wanton cliff what model should I get

muted patio
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Yeah, non official sources are a no go

urban quest
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Oki

muted patio
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Just go to Ebay if you need a key

urban quest
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Ok

austere vale
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My last pro one was I think $5 or $6

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Never had an issue with it.

desert gulch
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segotep gp is pog

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and you could save a bit on storage and get more performance by going for a 1tb pilot e

urban quest
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Edit the list im a nood and fine crafted this list with the help of discord lmao itll be my second build

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And I think I'll go for a evga 3060 XC if it fits idk if it will

desert gulch
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so whats your budget for the whole build?

urban quest
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Trying to stay under 1500 with rust and tarkov

desert gulch
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so like 1400 so you have enough to buy those games?

urban quest
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Yes