building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Yeah .... And i answered?

[rancid galleon]

By The Way.....

[static ravine]

yes?

[rancid galleon]

Which PC Build Is Best?

[static ravine]

what do you mean by that

[rancid galleon]

???

Oh.

I Want Build A Gaming PC...

With Fantech's Accessories.

[worn wave]

Fantec, the company that makes Racing wheels that cost as much as good computers?

[rich helm]

How much is your budget

[jolly depot]

any recommendation depends on budget and purpose

guys in the meantime, I have a question.. this is my build: "Ryzen3900x, RogStrixX570-E, 32GB(4x8)ddr4-3600c14, founder 6800xt, some ssd drives... " I am wondering if it worth a cpu upgrade to 5600X or 5800X?... cant find proper benchmarks because of my monitor "odyssey g9 32:9 I play at full 5120x1440" right now getting 110FPS "mid settings" on CoD coldwar.

if I use high or ultra, it drastically drop to 40-50fps because of the high resolution. I dont know if maybe the cpu upgrade could help "a bit"

[rancid galleon]

What?

Fantech Builds Racing Wheels?

[worn wave]

Full setup

$2,978.80

[rancid galleon]

Fantech Does Not Build Racing Wheels.

[worn wave]

https://fanatec.com/us-en

Fanatec does

is that what you are talking about?

[rancid galleon]

W8.

No.

Bro.

[worn wave]

https://www.fantech.net/

[rancid galleon]

That's FANATEC....

No.

[rancid galleon]

It's Not....

Try Search Fantech World.....

This Is.....

[muted patio]

That website is.........weird.

[rancid galleon]

What???

[muted patio]

Their translations are off a bit lol

[rancid galleon]

Fantech Is A Gaming Company.

[muted patio]

Yeah

Seems to be popular in Asia

[uncut pelican]

so am i 😉

[vapid bay]

yea fantech is popular in asia (ig on SEA they do more)

but keyboards is poop tho

their cases looks v nice tho

[muted patio]

A lot of their stuff seems to be low quality

[vapid bay]

yeap, it's cheap too

[rich helm]

Ok go ahead

[topaz schooner]

@rich helm So after my friend helped me put my system together, we booted it up and one of two things would happen after about running for 5 mins:

1. A watchdog error
2. The entire screen freezes, forcing us to restart.
   If needed, I can provide a parts list.

[rich helm]

Yes plz for the parts list

[topaz schooner]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrfN7X

[rich helm]

What do you mean by watch dog error

[topaz schooner]

A blue screen with a sad face saying there's a problem

[rich helm]

Did you install all drivers

[topaz schooner]

We installed a Gforce Nvidia driver from the website because my friend told me i would need it to properly play my games, but that's the only driver that's there when we open the device manager. I also tried installing windows, which seemed to work, but only that one driver is there

[rich helm]

The mobo should of come with a disk which you use to install drivers or you have to download them on the website

do you have a gpu?

[topaz schooner]

yeah, a gtx 970

[rich helm]

Oh ok was confused why you would get nvidia driver

Download mobo drivers from website

I’m going to find a link

[topaz schooner]

ok, i'll give it a try

[rich helm]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-PRO-M2-MAX#down-driver&Win10 64

You have to download drivers for proper functionality of a system

[topaz schooner]

So i do have a disc with the drivers, but i don't have a disc drive

[rich helm]

Click driver, select windows 10 64, then download all of the drivers there (besides the older realtek audio driver) and install them

[rich helm]

Just download them off the website

[topaz schooner]

ok my friend is downloading them now

[rich helm]

After that I can help you with watchdog error

But you want to do this first

[topaz schooner]

my friend asked "my cpu doesnt have onboard graphics, should i download the onboard vga drivers"

[south jewel]

can sum1 recommend me a 3 pack of fans under $50 they dont have to be RGB but it is preferred

[balmy patio]

well there's arctic p12's

[rich helm]

No you shouldn’t need to

But everything else is good

[south jewel]

they look nice do yk if they preform well?

[rich helm]

Yes pretty decent

[balmy patio]

yeah

[south jewel]

ok thx

[balmy patio]

the ones that say "pst" are daisy-chainable so you should get those

last time i checked they were $10 each

or 5 for $40

[topaz schooner]

ok, the chip set driver has been installed, we're restarting now to see what happens. usually it froze within 5-10 minutes, so how much time should i see without issues to know if that fixed anything?

[rich helm]

Install all the drivers and restart after and you might have to do watchdog error before it works properly

[topaz schooner]

ok, sounds good, i'll reply when everything is back up

[rich helm]

Ok 👍

[stoic island]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5/

[rich helm]

@topaz schooner Here’s some steps that you need to take: if your driver isn’t iastor.sys like it says in 4 then we can try something else

[topaz schooner]

So good news, it hasn't frozen, but it's been on "getting windows ready" for about 20-25 mins. I'll give that a try when (and if) the computer finally finishes what it's doing

[ancient wraith]

whats the best dns

[stoic island]

1.1.1.1

[ancient wraith]

what about amazon

ill just do 1.1.1.1

[ancient wraith]

does location matter

[stoic island]

afaik they have a crap ton of servers so not really

[ancient wraith]

ok thnx

[topaz schooner]

@rich helm It seems like everything is ok for now, I'll let you know if anything messes up. Thanks for the hellp so far

@rich helm (sorry for the many pings) It's still freezing up

[rich helm]

Did you do the watchdog steps

[topaz schooner]

So it doesn't say the thing you said for number 4 it says "storachi.sys"

[dawn cosmos]

I’ve installed a new MoBo and processor; I’ve got the software installed for it now. Is there anything else I need and/or am missing before I start gaming on it? I’ve checked windows updates and updated 3 times. Any bios stuff or hardcore drivers I should worry about?

[topaz schooner]

I have two things on that list that both say "SATA AHCI" and they both have the same properties

[rich helm]

You have two ssds try updating the driver for both

If the driver is the one listed in the steps

[topaz schooner]

I've tried doing the steps and nothing changed. Instead of "iastor.sys" it says "storahci.sys" instead

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLTj9N how is this? (im not only gaming and the games im playing are more cpu intensive, im trying to edit videos get outta here with the 10400f)

[balmy patio]

what's your budget?

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yKwCPV for only $60 more you get this

[little osprey]

i wanted to keep it as close to $1500 as possible ;-;

[south jewel]

isnt the seagate barracuda like $7 less?

[little osprey]

also yea the other hdd i had was less money and faster rpm

[balmy patio]

the wd blue caviar is a cmr drive, the baracuda is smr and it tends to fail a lot :/

[south jewel]

fr? my bad OG

[balmy patio]

i'll see if i can go cheap on sum stuff

[little osprey]

ok

[balmy patio]

it's alr smh

[little osprey]

btw another guy ended up recommending this to me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmTj9N

apparently the integrated graphics help out in vid editing

:/

[balmy patio]

i see

lemme see what i can do

[frank stirrup]

What now?!

[warm badge]

Technically they do cause quicksync
but the only thing i can think of that uses it well is premiere

[frank stirrup]

Not much improvement tho right

[little osprey]

they just said it helped lol

no context

[frank stirrup]

Yeah they might help but is it worth it?

[little osprey]

it's like $10 more than the f

[warm badge]

it can be pretty helpful for encoding afaik
those intel igps are pretty good with h.264 or was it h.265?
but i need to fact check myself

nope the clock speeds are the same on both cpus
base 2.9ghz turbo 4.3ghz
the igp gets deactivated when a dgpu is plugged in

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8k2zdD this is what i came up with for now

[frank stirrup]

Lemme check gimme a sec

[balmy patio]

downgraded the monitor, went with a cheaper case, and added more ram

[autumn aurora]

Why do you look like dababy

[south jewel]

less go

[autumn aurora]

U want my credit card info ?

[balmy patio]

lmao

[autumn aurora]

Lol

[balmy patio]

funny dababy insta dm

[autumn aurora]

Hey anyone here uses polychrome sync ?

[south jewel]

ill dm u on insta i have proof im him just look at my pfp

[frank stirrup]

I can put together an amd rig for you

dont really know as much about intel

[balmy patio]

b560 boards made intel the go-to for low-mid tier

[frank stirrup]

lemme know if you want me to

[autumn aurora]

Intel is ass naming CPU’s

[frank stirrup]

@little osprey

[little osprey]

wat

[frank stirrup]

.

[autumn aurora]

Intel i7 90000kxtfl 16 gen like bruh make it simple like amd ryzen 5 3600

[little osprey]

ok

go ahead

[balmy patio]

i mean at least it makes sense

unlike monitors

[autumn aurora]

I got a 1080 curved 24 inch 144hz free sync monitor

[fossil cedar]

you mean you dont want a i5-7640X cpu smh

[balmy patio]

bruh lemme pull up my samsung s22e450d

and then there's usb

[fossil cedar]

monitors are so bad at naming holy crap

omg usb have like 7 iterations for usb 3.1

[gray blade]

nah i have a i5 34245654 ti xt xr

[balmy patio]

lemme just plug in my 3.2 gen2^4 * 7 dongle so that i can use my 3.1&2 + 8 usb device

[fossil cedar]

hate when this happens XD

[autumn aurora]

i 5 6900xt xr pro Max 11thgen rocket ti super mini

Nvidia when those silicon chips get delivered

[balmy patio]

@little osprey do you still need help with finding a parts list?

or are you all good for now

[little osprey]

i think i got it but im still waiting on crai's amd build

[balmy patio]

fair

benchmarks show that the 10700f and 3700x are similar in multi and single core performance

[little osprey]

5600x is better and cheaper tho

[fossil cedar]

Tbh if you going amd atm unless you going ryzen 9 intel is better value

5600x is like 100$ more than it should be for good value

It performs pretty similar to i5 10400 for half the price

[little osprey]

i wonder when the 5 5600 is going to come out

[winged lion]

What

Isn’t it out

[little osprey]

no only the 5600x

[fossil cedar]

Mb soon, the amd processors aren't going out of stock instantly anymore

[winged lion]

Oh

[balmy patio]

if the 10400 is on par with the 3600 in some instances, the 5600x is def better than the 10400

[fossil cedar]

But not 100$ better

150 acc

[balmy patio]

but if you're main use for the rig is video edit and not game, then go 10700f/3700x

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[winged lion]

Bruh the 5600x beats the i9 In some cases

[balmy patio]

yeah 10400 is better value

[fossil cedar]

The 5900x boosts higher

[warm badge]

Value vs performance
pick your poison in this case cpu

[winged lion]

Stick to the amd one prob

And is better for things other than gaming

Productivity

[fossil cedar]

The thing is 3000 series cpus are overpriced atm

[balmy patio]

intel one is prolly gonna be cheaper, for about the same perf

[winged lion]

??? I’m not talking about the ryzen 9

[fossil cedar]

Ohh misread

But the thing is when you can find a 10850k for the same price as the 5600x it's like why not get 10 cores

[winged lion]

The amd CPU’s will beat intel most of the time in terms of productivity

[fossil cedar]

Even if you loose some single core perf

[winged lion]

It just depends if j what you’re gonna be doing with the cp really

[warm badge]

but you gain 8 extra threads
intel is simply better value rn on the cheaper side

[winged lion]

Yea

[balmy patio]

yeah

[warm badge]

if you're gaming...id still get the 10850k
games are starting to use more than 4 cores

[winged lion]

Stock 🥺

[balmy patio]

5600x is still better for game

10850k has 10 cores tho and shreds it in productivity

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[warm badge]

plus a kinda newer platform
lga 1200 has 11th gen upcoming, meanwhile zen 3 was end of the road for am4

[winged lion]

Rly?

Huh

[balmy patio]

yee

[fossil cedar]

11th gen looks like it's gonna suck tho

[warm badge]

bit better ipc aint saving you from 8 extra threads yo

[balmy patio]

so far it sucks (11th gen)

[fossil cedar]

10850k has 4 extra cores and 8 extra threads

[warm badge]

we still need to see the i5s, i3s and i9s
the 11700k was just a giant meh, not bad but meh

[winged lion]

Ah

[rich helm]

But z590 is nice

[fossil cedar]

True but if the 11700k under performs 10700k in some situations that's not a good look

[winged lion]

I was so confused when I saw people recommending the 3600 for gaming pc builds

[balmy patio]

tbh i'm kinda waiting for reviews on the 11400/f and how it compares to a 3600/x, 5600x, 10600k/f nd 10400/f

[winged lion]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

And they aint gonna win high end with the 11th gen i9 being 8 cores

[winged lion]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yes but 10th gen on z590 better

[balmy patio]

you don't get pcie gen 4 with 10th gen smh

no fast useless drives to stick into my system for big number smh

[warm badge]

that was from anandtechs review with the whole gear nonsense
after seeing gn's review the 11700k can edge out the 10700k in most cases by 5-10%

[warm badge]

same, thats where intels value is much better

[balmy patio]

and for like $100 bucks more

[warm badge]

also that
i forgot how overpriced it was

[rich helm]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x8hYYg

[fossil cedar]

No most of the time it was equal, if not worse

[fossil cedar]

If you live near a micro center get a 10850k instead imo

[little osprey]

3 hour drive baybeeee

[fossil cedar]

Oof nvm

[topaz schooner]

@rich helm I've done just about everything, and it still freezes. It's fine until I go to do anything, I can't install or run any programs without it freezing.

[cunning knoll]

can i request a refund for something that’s on the way?

[wheat zinc]

xeon X5680, asus x58 board, hyper212 style cooler, gtx 1060 3gb 12gb ddr3, 240gb ssd, 1tb hdd, 550w psu, phanteks case for the 400 is this a good price and PC

[random jasper]

imagine i11 11th gen

[static ravine]

yea no thats cursed

[stoic island]

eh, it's okay considering GPU pricing, but otherwise very meh

[wheat zinc]

Should I wait

[stoic island]

I can't predict the future but

I'm assuming it won't improve in the near future

@wheat zinc Actually, if it's 400$ total w shipping it's pretty good nowadays

[wheat zinc]

A guy will build it for me

[stoic island]

read it as 550$ at first for some reason

How much would they charge for building it..?

[wheat zinc]

I’m not to sure but they said it will coast 400 so I assumed they included building fee

[winged lion]

This guy I’m talking to is talking about arm

And their m1x

I’ve never heard of it

He says it’s gonna be amazing

And it has built in graphics

[ancient wraith]

how do i see the mhz for my ram

[balmy patio]

in bios or task manager

[lavish pagoda]

Do I need a 850 watt psu if I am running a rtx 3080 and an i9 10900k ?

[muted patio]

Id recommend it yes

Enermax revolution df will do you well

[lyric thistle]

What happened to top end gpu and cpu being able to run on 550w psu

3000 series

[fossil cedar]

f

the good old days 😢

[thorny hinge]

So. Um. I just looked for parts on Amazon. How can you tell if someone is a shady seller?

[rigid oracle]

399.99 on newegg

is this a good.. maybe entry level gaming pc?

[lyric thistle]

Oof

[rigid oracle]

GeForce GT 1030, old graphics card but it might work

[vagrant olive]

no i/o shield

wtf

[lyric thistle]

Athlon II X2

Which, AM3 is still kinda good but I wouldn't buy it for playing modern games

Especially not a dual core

Phenom II X4 955 is what I've had experience with, it's not bad at all

[rigid oracle]

reviews are iffy for this one also this computer looks pretty ugly if you ask me

but looks arent really my top priority right now

[lyric thistle]

What's the price

[rigid oracle]

449.99

https://www.newegg.com/ipason-3200g/p/3D5-001U-00001

[earnest olive]

any recommendations for pcie thunderbolt cards?

[fossil cedar]

Any parts you buy on Amazon and don't get, Amazon are really good for giving refunds, and not having sketchy stuff for pc parts

[earnest olive]

@rigid oracle that athlon cpu will barely even be able to run youtube

avoid

we are talking about a cpu that was considered ultra budget in 2009

msrp of $60 in 2009

it will struggle with modern webpages

2mb cache is not doing it any favors

[versed cliff]

#graphics-cards pls

[earnest olive]

if you intend to get a pc with integrated graphics such as that ryzen 3 3200g, dual channel 16gb ram is a must

[rigid oracle]

what about the other one i sent

https://www.newegg.com/ipason-3200g/p/3D5-001U-00001

[earnest olive]

yes that's the one i'm talking about

integrated graphics will reserve 2gb ram

leaving you with only 6gb ram left

and gaming performance will be terrible in single channel

if you are willing to open it up and add another ram stick it'll do slightly better

but at that point just build your own

[gaunt reef]

how do you take out a cpu lol

I have an i7

[earnest olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubhaJi-hU6Q

[gaunt reef]

thansk

[earnest olive]

@rigid oracle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M2sj9N beats both of those prebuilts by a good amount

ryzen 3 3200g for $150 on ebay

[alpine marsh]

Hey everyone hi 👋 I'm new here and I am new to the whole building a pc thing and I'm looking into building a gaming pc to game and stream on. But I don't know where to start. Any help or advice is appreciated. Oh also im on a strict budget.

[earnest olive]

you could start by saying the budget

[alpine marsh]

Hmmm no more than $2000 CAD

[earnest olive]

first of all unless you are willing to wait several months you will need to buy a used gpu

so it's up to you if you are fine with that

does 2000 CAD include monitor, keyboard, mouse?

if not you can target an RTX 2070 SUPER or GTX 1080Ti for up to 1k CAD

[thorny hinge]

I meant eBay

Sorry

[fossil cedar]

ohh look at reviews, and read them not just star rating, also im not sure about proper ebay sellers but finding people who have pictures from multiple angles and on a piece of furniture (like table) in their house

[earnest olive]

@alpine marsh https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/djzCPV

[alpine marsh]

I already have a mouse and keyboard

[earnest olive]

so you need a monitor

actually if you're streaming you need two

gotta make some downgrades then

for future reference budget usually does not include peripherals

[alpine marsh]

What exactly are peripherals?

[earnest olive]

everything outside of the pc

[alpine marsh]

Sorry if that's a dumb question

[earnest olive]

sadly seems b560 boards are overpriced in canada

[fossil cedar]

there aint many b560 boards out yet unfortunately

[earnest olive]

availability and pricing is pretty good in the US

[fossil cedar]

on pcpp theres like 10 boards with pricing tho no?

[earnest olive]

yet the 10400F is still so cheap that overpaying for a B560 board still ends up a better option than going r5 3600

[alpine marsh]

I could try to see if a friend in the US could get it for me

[earnest olive]

dunno i was doing a new build for gf, looked at b560 boards, saw a good one on newegg for $130, had it in 2 days

seems good to me

[earnest olive]

nah this one is not overpriced enough to be worth that hassle

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/R37yrr

including 2 monitors

one monitor for game, one monitor for streaming software of choice + chat

streaming on one monitor is not a good time

[thorny hinge]

If I have a 75 hz monitor, should I limit frames to 75 or double of my hz?

Nvm

Should be 75 fps

[potent portal]

If your monitor has freesync or gsync on then cap it at the refresh rate and leave vsync off in game.
If you're playing a shooter game leave all the sync stuff off and cap at double your refresh rate.

[warm badge]

setting an fps limiter can cause input delay, so unless you have a cpu bottleneck i wouldnt reccomend doing it

[fossil cedar]

Yes ofc

[fossil cedar]

It can acc reduce imput delay

[stoic island]

Depends, for example, with Nvidia's low latency mode in NVCP set to ultra (no pre-rendered frames), you might actually get less input lag with a cap on frame rates

Oh and prob needs g sync or some kind of VRR too

[warm badge]

oh, well thats interesting
gonna have to look into it, but the general consensus is limit fps=more input lag

[potent portal]

I use a limiter so I get more consistent, stable frame rates. Running no cap heats me up fast and drops my .1% lows far below where I like.

[warm badge]

what specs

[earnest olive]

I read that you're supposed to set frame cap 2-3 fps below your monitor's limit for gsync?

[potent portal]

This was back when I had my R7 2700, my R7 5800X doesn't really have that problem as much but I do get microstutter going too high. RTX 2070

[stoic island]

That's mainly because if pre-rendered frames afaik, as a theoretical example,

Normal settings, 100fps, limit to 60fps, so after the 60 frames, some of the extra frames that were already rendered would be reused for the next settings

[stoic island]

Yea just blurbuster testing

[warm badge]

oh, well that explains the dips

[earnest olive]

I have it set to 162 limit

165hz monitor

I didn't really notice a difference

[stoic island]

I mean I'm running v sync off g sync on for some reason and it's working well for me

Prob should just turn off g sync altogether

[potent portal]

If you're running over your refresh rate there's not much point leaving it on

[stoic island]

Yea

[earnest olive]

my gpu makes a whining noise when fps gets too high

like 4000+

[lyric thistle]

4000 fps

[earnest olive]

yeah for some reason in the start screen for genshin fps decides to shoot up to 4000-6000

4000+ fps also achievable in minecraft

[potent portal]

You can selectively enable a limiter in nvidia settings for specific game profiles

[earnest olive]

i already have the limiter on

that was before

[lyric thistle]

Maybe alt tab away from or minimize window so it doesn't render frames

[spice badger]

If I get an Nvidia gpu and I have free sync will I still be able to run 144 hz

[earnest olive]

yes

[brittle tinsel]

Is there an rgb strip that is razer compatible?

[spice badger]

Ok good

[earnest olive]

freesync works with nvidia gpus from pascal and later

but you can still run 144hz on a 900 series gpu

it just won't support freesync

[spice badger]

Will the screen tear

[earnest olive]

your mileage may vary

[spice badger]

ok, thanks

I know I sound stupid

[earnest olive]

what gpu do you have

1000 series and newer support freesync

[spice badger]

I dont have a good pc rn

I'm going to get a newer one soon

[earnest olive]

700 series supports 1080p144, not sure about older

[spice badger]

I dont even have a gpu on this on

[potent portal]

Cheap monitors are cheap for a reason. Keep that in mind and don't cheap out and you should have a decent freesync experience.

[spice badger]

I have the benq 2710

When I get a new pc it will be around 700 and its gonna be a starter

[brittle tinsel]

Free sync is amd, g-sync is nvidia

[spice badger]

Probably a prebuilt with the gpu prices rn

[earnest olive]

yes... but nvidia gpus from pascal and later support freesync

it doesn't matter who made it

[brittle tinsel]

So 1650 super and up?

[earnest olive]

pascal is 1000 series

i already said all this...

[spice badger]

Let me look at some pre builts and I'll tell you the gpu if its Nvidia

[earnest olive]

freesync only monitor

[potent portal]

I have gsync running on my (second hand, free) freesync monitor also.

[fossil cedar]

youll get smoother frame times/frame delivery also stops spikes as much , makes you more consistent in games that require it eg fps games

[fossil cedar]

for fps games at least 2x monitor refesh rate is ideal anyway

[earnest olive]

my only competitive game is league

[potent portal]

lol

"competitive"

[fossil cedar]

ahh well i play overwatch and rainbow six so

[earnest olive]

is league not a competitive game...?

[fossil cedar]

well i can get 600 on a r9 380 in mc so makes sense lol

[fossil cedar]

yes but its not an fps title

[spice badger]

Hey, so the starter pc for NZXT has a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 for the gpu. Is that good with freesync?

[potent portal]

Technically it is but... kinda falling out of popularity with all the new games

[fossil cedar]

like fps doesnt matter really snail

[spice badger]

Idk what pascal is

[earnest olive]

yeah it supports freesync

[stoic island]

Architecture

[spice badger]

Pog

[earnest olive]

pascal is gtx 1000 series

turing is gtx 1600 and rtx 2000 series

[stoic island]

Well, there's some bits and pieces that are carried over

like 1650 gets pascal nvenc

not turing

[spice badger]

Thank you Mr snail

[lyric thistle]

Interesting

[fossil cedar]

but super gets turing nvenc right?

[spice badger]

What does this mean

[lyric thistle]

Nvidia encoder

[fossil cedar]

the nvenc encoder is great for streamers, it encodes on a special area on the gpu instead of the cpu basically

[lyric thistle]

For encoding video

[spice badger]

Oh, gotcha

Is the starter NZXT pc good? I think imma get it around Christmas time

[stoic island]

I believe ti does, don't remember if super has turing or pascal

[fossil cedar]

well theres not much point looking at exect specs for christmas now

[stoic island]

@spice badger there's always other options, and the market is always changing

[fossil cedar]

^ youd be better off starting to look in september earliest

[potent portal]

By then the options will have changed

[spice badger]

Do you know any good pre built companies to take note of that have starter pcs

[spice badger]

Alright then

[lyric thistle]

iBuyPower?

[potent portal]

Buildredux, once their GPU prices drop

[lyric thistle]

Apple

😎

[spice badger]

Bro the gpu prices are making get a prebuilt 😔

[fossil cedar]

ibm 😎

[lyric thistle]

Dell

[fossil cedar]

things might have easied by christmas

[potent portal]

Dell has actually decent deals right now, clearance time

[spice badger]

hopefully

[lyric thistle]

Yes

[earnest olive]

if i had to buy a prebuilt i'd gladly pay a premium to avoid dell

[stoic island]

Buildredux and xoticpc are good

[fossil cedar]

well it wont be exactly the same, im guessing older gpus might become more normal price

[earnest olive]

I hate proprietary parts

[potent portal]

Well I saw they had $720 for a Dell with 10400f and 1660 ti so I'd buy that just for the GPU and CPU

[earnest olive]

wait

[spice badger]

I remember seeing rx 570s for like half the price in 2019

[earnest olive]

okay that is cheap enough to make me consider dell lol

[spice badger]

I should've got a pc then

[potent portal]

That's exactly my point lol, I'd have never considered suggesting it before but their clearance is pretty good

[earnest olive]

that's definitely cheaper than custom build right now

1660tis are what $500-600?

[spice badger]

Jesus

[potent portal]

$450-$500 on ebay atm

[earnest olive]

and a 10400f is so easy to cool even dell probably couldn't mess it up

as soon as you step into i7 territory

dell: did someone order thermal throttling?

[lyric thistle]

Cooler isn't even installed probably

Only the bottom pegs pressed in

[earnest olive]

dell will happily put a cooler worse than intel stock cooler on an i7 lol

saw a review of a dell pc with a 3700x

was running at 101C

and of course single channel ram

[lyric thistle]

Oof

[earnest olive]

and that was at stock

meanwhile on the 3700x stock cooler... 85C in prime95 while overclocked to the teeth

[sharp tundra]

So, I've decided to buy a samung smart fridge instead of a new pc

[south jewel]

same

[fossil cedar]

Odd flex but okay

[sharp tundra]

Since the Availability of GPUs are non existent

[vagrant olive]

steal the gpu that powers the display on it and put it in a pc

🧠

[fossil cedar]

Even bigger brain, buy a tesla, get the gpu from that

[sour viper]

Can someone help me I have to buy prebuilt with insurance and monitor with $1000 for my boss.

[fossil cedar]

For what task?

[vagrant olive]

buy a gpu and steal the gpu from the gpu

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[sharp tundra]

Honestly, get him a Mac

It'll be more worth it.

[sour viper]

Mostly Multi-Tasking and he expects high quality

[sharp tundra]

He's not gonna get high quality for $1000

But multitasking, what type of multitasking? What programmes is he gonna be running?

[fossil cedar]

Well by sounds of things they don't want dedicated gpu so that's pretty decent for no gpu

[stoic island]

Also, laptop or desktop?

It might be easier with a good laptop

[sour viper]

The programs aren't going to be very demanding

He wants a desktop and monitor I have a $1000 budget

[sharp tundra]

Then have him get a macbook

[sour viper]

He wants a 30-40inch and High quality with a $1000 dollar budget

I honestly don't know where to start

[stoic island]

Maybe this plus a monitor
https://xoticpc.com/collections/g3-avenger/products/g3-avenger-optimal-ready-to-ship

well

[sharp tundra]

30-40 inch moniter??????

Bruh

That'll be $1000 on its own

Not really, but

[sour viper]

yes he has an enormous screen in his office and wants 30-40in monitor to complement that

[stoic island]

hm

UW is not going to be cheap

@sour viper You sure they can't just get a decent tv?

[sharp tundra]

You need to tell your boss to either up his budget or lower his demands.

[sour viper]

I am just going to get him a 30inch

[stoic island]

eh, it's not too horribly bad actually
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PDHSVSW

200$

[alpine marsh]

Would I be able to get one monitor and use my laptop as a second? Or it wouldn't work

[sharp tundra]

I believe you can have your laptop cast to another monitor

[stoic island]

It would, main need for a second monitor is just more screen space so you can watch chat and such.

So as long as you can have your laptop open to chat

you'll be good

Well, also depends on streaming software

but if you're not doing anything fancy

it'd be fine

[alpine marsh]

I will be running OBS at the most

[sour viper]

does $200 30inch monitor to $800 desktop sound good for a $1000 dollar budget

[fossil cedar]

would you not be better getting a machine with like a 10700?

[sharp tundra]

Does he already have keyboard and mouse?

[sour viper]

yes

[stoic island]

I mean

4350g has a stronger iGPU

so

depends really

[fossil cedar]

but if its just office work

[sour viper]

truly is

[fossil cedar]

the i7 would be better than a ryzen 3 imo for an office system

[sour viper]

He likes to open every program possible while working

[stoic island]

hm

[sour viper]

pretty hard to look at..

[sharp tundra]

Your boss doesn't sound very efficient

[stoic island]

going to be weird finding a prebuilt config for it

[sharp tundra]

But not my space to judge

[sour viper]

yea that's how I feel but I like my job..

Now I have to find an $800 prebuilt ig.

[stoic island]

For now, this is still an option @sour viper
https://xoticpc.com/collections/g3-avenger/products/g3-avenger-optimal-ready-to-ship

it's not great

but it's usable

[sharp tundra]

I just don't understand why he won't go for macbook

Reasonable price for what it is

[sour viper]

right.

He is being very particular about wanting a curved screen, my goodness I almost forgot

[stoic island]

hm

[sharp tundra]

Bruh

[stoic island]

cost is gonna go up

[sharp tundra]

30inch, curved, UW monitor

[sour viper]

not UW

just ~30in curved

[stoic island]

this might be the cheapest curved 30+in monitor
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475054

[sharp tundra]

Is there even curved 30" 16:9 monitors?

[stoic island]

y e s

[sharp tundra]

Oh, I haven't seen one before, that's why I aksed

[sour viper]

do you know what I would be looking for $1000 on a Imac

[sharp tundra]

One sec

[balmy patio]

the macbook air is 1k

slap on some thermal pads and it's basically a pro

mac mini is $700 i think

[sharp tundra]

That's right on the money

[stoic island]

kinda really small for their needs tho

dunno how 8gb of ram is gonna do if they do a lot of programs

but

[sour viper]

Whats better that iMac the G3 avenger with the Msi monitor

[stoic island]

prob fine

[sharp tundra]

He just wanted to see the best IMac option

For $1000, and that it

[stoic island]

I wouldn't do it but

if you're in the apple eco system ig

[sharp tundra]

I honestly wouldn't resend either, but between, price accessibility and usability, probably the best thing for $1000 that his boss needs

No curved 30" monitor

[sour viper]

true.

I will offer him to buy the iMac or g3 avenger

how would i upgrade the ram on the g3 you showed me

[stoic island]

take side panel off, and you can access the ram slots

the usual open latch, take sticks out, and put new sticks back in

[sour viper]

Do they offer warranty

[sour viper]

thank you guys I will let you know how it goes

[soft arch]

hmmm

[stoic island]

please don't

[soft arch]

no?

[stoic island]

First, that build just doesn't seem right in a H510 (cooling would be nice), second, 900$ for the 3070

[south jewel]

i mean is it badd???

[stoic island]

Even like Redux and xotic only charge like 700$ for a 3070

[soft arch]

i mean its a guaranteed gpu

[south jewel]

i think its a lil overpriced

[soft arch]

overall price dont seem too bad for these days

[stoic island]

lemme pull that config up in xotic

[south jewel]

ig

[stoic island]

xotic is a good prebuilt company btw

[soft arch]

i mean i got a 5900x 3070 ffrom ibp for like 3.2k so

ehhh

[stoic island]

Basically same price, but you get a lot more options on other customization on xotic @soft arch
https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx11-dynamic/products/gx11-dynamic-x570?conf=368368

and also the price is driven up because the o11 prebuilt is the first one xotic offers Ryzen on

for some reason

ryzen expensive

lemme check redux tho

xotic is more quality but higher price

[soft arch]

redux is worse I think

[stoic island]

ah 5600x not avaliable on redux

[soft arch]

also the ram is slower on xotic

except tridentz

[stoic island]

is it?

thought I choose 3600mhz

oh lmao

trident z is the 3866mhz kit

but 100$ more

[soft arch]

mhm

they just dont have 3600 speed

[stoic island]

Eh, they do offer a lot of quality tho, I doubt NZXT has anything near lifetime support and lifetime free labor on top of 5 year part replacement

[cold sorrel]

You know, if I didn't already have some parts bought... at this point I would just get a prebuilt. But I have a case and fans I don't want to waste.

[stoic island]

fair

[soft arch]

you can just get a case that can fit like 12 fans

should be fine

[stoic island]

o11 boi

@soft arch oh and I believe that xotic config includes an O11 with all fan slots filled

might be part of the reason for why it was close to NZXT pricing

[soft arch]

maybe

[cold sorrel]

I have a Phantek case I bought last year that I really liked. (Back when my plan was to purchase the parts and do the build over the summer.) But, no. I had to listen to the advice here to wait on GPU buying... now I'm in the limbo of I don't know if I'll ever finish the build.

[stoic island]

lmao it comes with a lighting kit...?

Well, maybe you'll get something from shuffle or bb drop

[soft arch]

lighting kits are like 10 bucks on nzxt

[cold sorrel]

I know 3070s and up are more than I'm wiling to pay for. I'm not willing to spend more on a GPU than what a 2060 Super cost last year before the shortages.

[soft arch]

just get a placeholder gpu for now i'd say

[stoic island]

I've never seen a prebuilt that comes with a lighting kit lel

[cold sorrel]

(Because I was gonna get a 2060 Super last year.)

[stoic island]

anyways this is a fun policy "When you buy a desktop computer from XOTIC PC you have the opportunity to upgrade your computer within the 1st year of the warranty period. We do this by taking a trade-in of your XOTIC PC components and you only pay the difference between the old and new components. XOTIC PC will cover all labor and testing free of charge for being an XOTIC PC customer."

[soft arch]

oh then just get the worst gpu possible and then change it out for msrp

[stoic island]

So 400$?

@cold sorrel You could try the EVGA queue thing for the 330$ msrp 3060

but prob a lot of people already thought of that

[soft arch]

the 3080 is so marked up 😩

[stoic island]

is sad

that reminds me

[soft arch]

i wanted to get it and then the price went over 1k

[stoic island]

sometimes wegg abs prebuilts aren't marked up too much

[cold sorrel]

I'll keep trying the shuffles, but today's shuffle was crap 'cause I ain't paying $500 for a 3060. That's ridiculous.

[stoic island]

Not bad at all actually @soft arch
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali502/p/N82E16883360097

It even has a z590 elite ax

tho ram is slightly lacking

fair

[soft arch]

:(

[limber light]

Well it starts

[soft arch]

hell yeah dude

that's gonna be a good build

[stoic island]

nice

[limber light]

Yeah it's a 5950X and MSI Suprim X 3090

Have 9 lian li uni fans on the way

[stoic island]

that better says GX on the PSU and not FX

[ripe wedge]

going for the ultimate rare build

I see

[limber light]

It says GX

Dw

[stoic island]

good

[limber light]

It's a 1000W

So I have room for overclocking

[stoic island]

fx had tripping issues

[limber light]

Probably gonna do 4.7 all core

[stoic island]

and other various issues

gx nice

[cold sorrel]

If I do succeed in scoring a 3060 at some point, what size power supply should I look at buying? I have a decent 650W model in my wishlist, but that might need to change now.

[limber light]

This pc has taken months to acquire

But I'm glad to say everything was bought at MSRP from verified retailers, nothing was bought from scalpers ^-^

[oak kayak]

Nice!

[golden forge]

Any of you guys have a second pc for streaming? Is it worth it?

[potent portal]

Eh. Not really unless you're streaming console too, or you have an AMD GPU. Nvidia Encoder is great for streaming.

[golden forge]

I am losing 50-100 fps when Streamlabs is just open. Not even when streaming.

Thats why I ask

[spice badger]

I just messed up my old pc somehow. I think I hit the reset switch and now it won't boot up or display any hdmi signal

[topaz schooner]

So after my friend helped me put my system together, we booted it up and one of two things would happen after about running for 5 mins:

1. A watchdog error
2. The entire screen freezes, forcing us to restart.
   This is my parts list, and my graphics card is a gtx 970.
   https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrfN7X

[potent portal]

What GPU are you using and what encoder is streamlabs set to?

[potent portal]

Flip the power off. Reset is only a power cycle.

[golden forge]

2080ti, 3900x, Nvenc new. I am running in admin mode. I have like 2 sources and 5 scenes altogether.

[spice badger]

I turned it on and off multiple times. I have to unplug it everytime because the power button won't work now

The pc is old and buggy so im not suprised

[potent portal]

CMOS clear usually helps with that, and full power drain

[spice badger]

What is a cmo

[potent portal]

Unplug the computer, remove the small flat battery from the motherboard, hold power button for 60 seconds, wait 10 minutes, put the battery back in and plug in computer.
This will reset all of your hardware settings and drain the power in the system.

[spice badger]

What does the battery look like

[potent portal]

Do you have any other overlays turned on? They don't even have to be active to interfere. Possible culprits include MSI afterburner and Nvidia overlay.

[potent portal]

Flat, round, silver. Usually located near the PCI slots that the GPU goes into.

[potent portal]

CPU or GPU watchdog? That usually indicated temperature or driver issues.

[topaz schooner]

I'm not sure. It gave me a sad face blue screen before and said "watchdog_timeout" I think? But it hasn't done that anymore and now just freezes after 5-10 minutes, even with no programs running or doing anything.

I just sit with the clock open watching the seconds tick by to see if it freezes and it does. In fact, it froze between the time I sent my last message and seeing your reply.

[spice badger]

Ok thanks

[potent portal]

Go to C:\Windows\Minidump and DM me the files located in there.
There's no personal info saved in these, purely diagnostic

[topaz schooner]

Ok, can do 👍

I'm not sure if I'll have enough time to send them before it freezes again, but I'll try

[potent portal]

Try to copy it to a USB or something and send it from another computer or your phone

[golden forge]

I checked task manager and neither of those are on

[potent portal]

If you press alt-z does the nvidia overlay come up?

[spice badger]

Welp, now I just gotta wait ten minutes to see if I'm screwed

[neon condor]

Some motherboards hide it around the I/O

I've seen it hidden in with the IO on some boards.

[golden forge]

It is, but instant replay is off

where is it under task manager?

[potent portal]

Go into GeForce Experience, Settings, toggle In-Game Overlay to off

[covert crescent]

Y'all think this is worth buying for 1,200$

[golden forge]

I turned it off and when streamlabs is on, I get 150fps. Once I close it, I get 210fps. Crazy. @potent portal

[limber light]

I forgot, do the mobo standoffs come with the case box or the mobo box

[potent portal]

Usually the case, in a baggie with zip ties and other random screws, often tucked in a drive bay

[limber light]

Yeah I just had a bag from the mobo that looked like standoffs and the case which i knew were standoffs

Just wanted to double check

[potent portal]

A 3800X and 2060 for $1200? Not really worth that, but if you can't find a better deal you could do it. Not a lot of storage and really bad memory if that's the max speed.

[covert crescent]

Ah ok many thanks!!

[spice badger]

I put the motherboard battery in and now my pc won't start

rip

[spice badger]

I feel so dumb its not even funny
I forgot to plug in my motherboard power

[rich helm]

No

The memory looks awful and the storage as well

[desert gulch]

I wouldn't rly care about those as much as cpu and gpu, as those are the big portions of build

Still a bad deal

[rich helm]

Yeah 2060 oof

[desert gulch]

i mean 2060 still a decent enough card for most ppl, just not for 1200 for the pc

[brittle tinsel]

My friends buddy wants a pc to play fortnite in “performance mode” at 144fps and record at that FPS, could someone make me a pc part picker to send to my bud to send to him?

[wanton cliff]

Wtf is performance mode

I need settings

[brittle tinsel]

Now I don’t play fortnite but I would assume performance mode is lowest settings

I can ask him 1 sec

@wanton cliff this is what he sent me.

[wanton cliff]

oh idk

[brittle tinsel]

And also said “it makes it run better, so ye most settings are low but it still looks good & you get hella frames”

[wanton cliff]

I keep it on DX12 because RTX

[wanton cliff]

why does he need more than 300 tho

fps

[brittle tinsel]

Who?

[wanton cliff]

your friend

why does he need more than 300 frames per second

[brittle tinsel]

He said he wants 144

[wanton cliff]

ok

well

thats doable on any GPU from the last 4 years

whats his budget

[brittle tinsel]

So I don’t know the guy, it’s my best friends fortnite buddy, everyone in that group swapped to pc and now he wants to as well, my buddy has the same build i am building Monday, (3900x 1060 3gb) but his mom said “she would buy it if it is cheap, I don’t know what that budget is but let’s shoot for as low as possible but can complete those tasks

Update $700-$800 is all he said

[wanton cliff]

ok

one sec

[brittle tinsel]

Yup, no problem.

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kMgKQD

bleh

so tired

obviously i can bring it down

hard tho

[brittle tinsel]

I’ll just send him this, thank you soo much. It’s hard to bring prices down because of this gpu issue.

My brothers got lucky, we were able to get decent builds for $500 a piece on Black Friday last year, took a while to get here because of a card shortage on the company side but yeah they made it

[wanton cliff]

hold on im bringing it dow

down

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gR6PdD

hundred dollars down

wait does the P300 come with fans

[brittle tinsel]

Idk

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NLnMQD

put some P12s in there for good measure

[brittle tinsel]

Is a rx 570 capable of 144 FPS? If so maybe I could sell him one cheaper than those other options

[wanton cliff]

ask @wheat coral

fortnite came out before the 570 did so maybe

[wheat coral]

Depends on the cpu but maybe

I’ll do a for note bench in a few hours @brittle tinsel

*fortnits

[brittle tinsel]

Don’t hurt yourself i know you mean fortnite

[wheat coral]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

Lol

Autocorrect?

[wheat coral]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

I hate it

[wheat coral]

Few hours cause I’m playing warzone and need to download it again

[brittle tinsel]

Alright just tag or dm me when you do

[wheat coral]

Kk

My guess is well over 100 FPS but idk

[granite barn]

what do i need to install a motherboard

[fossil cedar]

A screwdriver

[granite barn]

but how does the motherboard stick to the case

[fossil cedar]

With screws

[granite barn]

what type of screws

[fossil cedar]

You screw the motherboard in, line up the holes in the mobo with the case

The screws should have came with your case

[granite barn]

my case only came with 2 fans

[fossil cedar]

There should have been a box with a good few screws

[granite barn]

no

[wanton cliff]

check your HDD bays

which case is it?

[granite barn]

lian li 205m

[wanton cliff]

you know where your HDD bays are?

[granite barn]

ye let me check

[wanton cliff]

well?

[granite barn]

none

[wanton cliff]

you sure?

[granite barn]

ye

[wanton cliff]

can I have pictures?

[granite barn]

sure

o

i found a bag in the box

[wanton cliff]

there ya go

[brittle tinsel]

Does the fractal meshify come with drive brakecks?

[granite barn]

wait theirs a lot of screws which ones do I use??

[wanton cliff]

wdym

[brittle tinsel]

Like to mount hdd and ssd

[wanton cliff]

the one that fits

idk tbh

[granite barn]

....

[wanton cliff]

look it up on the website

[granite barn]

ok

[wanton cliff]

small

[brittle tinsel]

I ordered it from new egg not their website

[wanton cliff]

same product

[granite barn]

this whole time I had preinstalled standoffs.....

[brittle tinsel]

6 what included?

Brackets or bays?

[granite barn]

@wanton cliff thank you

[sullen spoke]

i assume is means 6 bays included for mounting hdds

[gray blade]

i have an i5 8400 in my currint prebuilt

should upgrade

and get a 3060 ti whenever possible

[fossil cedar]

What gpu do you have in the system or is it just integrated graphics?

[granite barn]

Is it fine to build my pc standing on carpet

[fossil cedar]

If there's no gpu already you might not be able to power a 3060 ti

[fossil cedar]

It's okay, wouldn't recommend it but wont kill your components, just dont put your components on carpet, use an antistatic strap if you can

[granite barn]

ok..

[fossil cedar]

He's only standing on carpet, not advised but won't kill the components prob

[granite barn]

How do i get windows for free

[muted patio]

Just don't activate it

[gray blade]

im gonna take out my cpu and make a whole new build

[granite barn]

??

[muted patio]

That is the only option that is allowed to be discussed here

[granite barn]

???

[muted patio]

What exactly are you asking here.

[granite barn]

how do i get the windows operating system for free

[muted patio]

GO here and download it, make a USB drive. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[granite barn]

ty

[muted patio]

YW

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay so you're making new build then, not upgrading

[brittle tinsel]

Now I know upgrading to a 3900x and sticking with a 1060 3gb isn’t gonna help me much in modern warfare but will it at least get rid of the audio cutouts when my cpu times spike?

[muted patio]

What CPU you have now?

[brittle tinsel]

In hand a 3900x waiting on the rest of the parts Monday

The one I used that died in surge was a i5 3570

[brittle tinsel]

Everything about the new pc in building is upgraded,
Old build was 3570 16gb ram
New one is 3900x 32gb ram, both are 10603gb unless my card died in the surge then I will be using a rx 570 that I have on hand

I could run dual rx 570s but I don’t think you can encode video with rx 570

The video encode would be for clipping gameplay with medal, the 3900x will be used to encode streams

[vagrant olive]

@fossil cedar how dare you combine an rtx 3070 with ketchup and mustard cables

[fossil cedar]

I'm sorry ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Non modular

[warm badge]

laughs in an entire ketchup and mustard build

and to add to that, its a $14 china psu

[fossil cedar]

At least mines evga jeez

[muted patio]

SHUFFLE IS LIVE! https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[potent portal]

I'm totally going to enter shuffle and flip my 2070 to buy a 3070 if I win.

[cold sorrel]

And... none of the GPUs today are in my price range. Though this two-fan ASUS 3070 sure is pretty.
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ko-rtx3070-o8g-gamin/p/N82E16814126466?Item=N82E16814126466

[balmy patio]

it sure it ngl

it'll look nice on a riser

[cold sorrel]

Would that I had unlimited budget. But I think my family would murder me if I spent 700+ bucks on a single component. That's almost half of what I spent on this laptop, four and a half years ago.

[night iron]

Newegg shuffle is now in effect. Please enter while you still have the chance.

[cold sorrel]

Yeah I'm whining a bit because today's shuffle is completely out of my budget. But I'm allowed to be annoyed at the current situation.

[vagrant olive]

6800xt for 1000$

seems good

[earnest olive]

my mom thinks crypto mining is amazing

LOL

[static ravine]

hmm

[earnest olive]

she asked me why i wanted multiple computers and i showed her my spreadsheet

[static ravine]

lol

[earnest olive]

i am spending my own money though

she was confused how a computer can print money by existing

$700 graphics card is just an investment

[earnest olive]

would rather buy that than 6700xt for $750 lol

at least 6800xt is actually a decent improvement over last gen radeon

i kind of want the nzxt n7 b550 mobo...

it looks cute

[still roost]

dnger#9842 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vagrant olive]

yeah nzxt mobos look hot

[earnest olive]

lol i can see your deleted message

[vagrant olive]

hopefully with better vrm and chipset cooling than their cases

[earnest olive]

i agree

to be fair i don't think most cases have good vrm/chipset cooling

but i saw a review and it's actually not bad

overpriced for what it offers

but that's nzxt

[vagrant olive]

yeah its like $230 or smt right

[earnest olive]

something like that

i have no reason to upgrade from my already fantastic looking b550 aorus elite

but... want

[vagrant olive]

my b550 aorus pro ac is pretty nice

but its not white

[frozen axle]

hey guys im having issues with microstutters recently dk whats up is there something i can run or osmething to see the issue?

[full atlas]

Vision has same vrms as that

[full atlas]

Ewwww

Jk it’s actually ok, just like 60+$ too much

[fossil cedar]

It's manufactured by asrock so it won't go on fire this time

[earnest olive]

yeah I saw the asrock bios

[fossil cedar]

And vrm temps look okay

It do be so fkn clean tho

[vagrant olive]

vision mobos expensive

[autumn aurora]

Asrock needs to fix polychrome sync

And add more features

[serene spire]

If I’m mounting an aio to the top of my case should I get a 360mm or a 240mm

[muted patio]

Either will be fine unless you have a HEDT CPU or something

[wanton cliff]

hey vintage

you play skyrim by chance?

[serene spire]

@muted patio I’m sorry I’m kinda new to pc building what’s HEDT CPU

[muted patio]

high End Desk Top, like a 9980X or something

[wanton cliff]

https://www.technadu.com/best-hedt-cpus/59098/

[muted patio]

If you don't have don't worry about it lol

[serene spire]

Oh yeah no just a 5600x

[wanton cliff]

ez to cool

[muted patio]

240mm then

It'll be fine even with a better CPU

[muted patio]

no

[wanton cliff]

damn

[serene spire]

Alright thank you that saves me a couple bucks

Oh another question I want a white aio under 150$ is deepcools castle line any good or is there a better option

[muted patio]

Lian Li

Galahad

[serene spire]

That’s under 150$

Oh nvm found it thank you

[autumn aurora]

So high end desktop need custom loop water cooling ?

[wanton cliff]

didnt say that

[mental steeple]

NOPE

[ripe wedge]

no

[lyric thistle]

Put Intel stock cooler on Xeon W3175X

[ancient wraith]

how do i test latency

[little osprey]

Anyone know a good gpu riser card? I have a EVGA xc 2070S, might be getting a 3060/3060ti.
https://www.newegg.com/black-metallic-gear-neo-qube-dual-chamber-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811700008?Item=N82E16811700008&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-700-008-_-03262021
May be getting this case as well.
My current case is a 4000D Airflow

[robust lake]

3060 wont be an upgrade, 3060ti will be like 10% better so im not sure if it is worth upgrading for it maybe consider getting 3070/3080 if you can get them at msrp.

And the 4000d airflow is good i dont think you will need to change it.

[little osprey]

More fans with the neo and more viewing space

I'll also have to room to put up a riser card

[robust lake]

Oh i thought you said you are upgrading from 2070s not running duel setup system my bad

[little osprey]

I'm running a single

I'm running dual monitor. gaming, netflix, streaming, etc

@robust lake

[muted patio]

Neither one of those options will be a large upgrade from the 2070S

[rigid oracle]

eugh a lot of the gaming pcs on ebay look a lot like scams

and i bet they are

where can i buy used computers anyways

[wanton cliff]

You don’t

[rigid oracle]

well its hard to get new parts

because of some shortage

so why just buy a computer used, it'll save me money too

[little osprey]

Buy a cheap laptop and use GeForce Now

[rigid oracle]

thats what im using now but i want an actual PC that can play games that arent on GeForce Now

[little osprey]

can someone help, my games keep crashing and when they crash, my whole computer freezes for a bit, and then i see some artifacts, and most of the time, closing the game doesnt fully help the problem, so i have to restart a pc, i have a rx 470, and also when it crashes i have a weird beeping noise

[marsh kiln]

People make me want to cry at times

[rich helm]

800 dollars oof

[wind osprey]

Thoughts on the Corsair SP Elite fans, versus LL and QL fans?

[ancient wraith]

b

[gusty pasture]

The lls and qls have the most rgb

specs are around the same

i think

sps move more air but not pwn

[ancient wraith]

are these any good

[wanton cliff]

I think the Arctic P12s are better but I could be wrong

Don’t know too much about case fans

[ancient wraith]

i just ordered them

lol

[gusty pasture]

@wind osprey

[fossil cedar]

I think artic p12s perform slightly better but don't think you'll notice that much

[ancient wraith]

ok thnx

[sour viper]

What is the most powerful prebuilt pc in the market rn?

That's in stock

[pliant lake]

what is your budget and use case?

[sour viper]

video editing and lots of multitasking

[pliant lake]

budget?

[wanton cliff]

Why can’t you build it yourself?

Just curious

[sour viper]

over $1000

[pliant lake]

and under?

[sour viper]

I need it to have warranty

[rich helm]

Unlimited?

Cause I can get you quadro rtx 8000

[wanton cliff]

Could get one of those Orion builds

30k or so

Custom looped

Dual 3090

3990x

[rich helm]

Not quadro smh

[sour viper]

around $3000 for the budget

[fossil cedar]

In that case you can get a nzxt build creator for about 3.5k with a 3090 i believe

[wanton cliff]

I turned off VSync in the Witcher and now I get 3590 FPS

[sour viper]

lmao thats a lot of frames there buddy

[fossil cedar]

How your cpu even manage that many frames

[rigid oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XmdzdD

does this build look decent?

[balmy patio]

what's your budget?

and the use for the pc

[rigid oracle]

$600-$650

[rigid oracle]

Light gaming. maybe GTA V, Doom Eternal, Minecraft, etc.

not really demanding games

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DzKbz7

replaced the motherboard so there would be no compat issues

these games all run pretty well on the 3400g as far as im aware

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CyR9N something like this would be ideal if you can get your hands on a 1650s