#building-and-recc-chat
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They shouldn't buy 3700z
Or gen4 for mining rigs since you need half as many lanes per card
why
@solar elbow bad its has a aio shuld of stuck with a noctua
Yeah I was thinking about going amd too but I didn't really want to bother buying a new mobo cause I figured it would be more expensive
i just said to get a b550 you... person.
Yeah but if he goes 9th gen doesn't have to swap mobo
that AIO performs pretty well
How much is the b550
Lol wat
a noctua performes better
Imo theres no point getting ryzen atm intel better value
and cheaper
or get a b450 steel legend
Cause I could get a 9900k for $250-300 if I wait
both are good, b550 is just better
Get that
yeah but i think amd is a little bit of a sweet spot rn
Ok ty guys, so psu for that and a 3060 ti/3070?
No it's not lol 3600s are going for 250
I think if I had nothing and was buying all new I would go amd too
650w or above
Ok
no
Theres no point i them getting new mobo
3070 or 60ti
yeah mine is a 600 and it powers a 2060 and 3700x just fine
No no no
well you cant really buy those rn
what cpu
unless ur rich or willing tolet scalpers win
Aswasa you never wanna run your psu at 100%
I mean I could just camp drops
I9
It's not impossible
yup
i do
Bad idea
Yikrs
so, 7 3700x, 3060 ti, 600w psu
i have a 450
That's kinda crazy
psu'
Dont get ryzen atm it's way more expensive
Wrong ping
i have a 2600
700 ish
Get the 990k
Replied to wrong one
please just stop arguing with me
intel better
facepalm
Guys people can have different opinions
You're giving bad advice
Its just an opinion
Intels way better value atm
well yeah differewnt opinions are fine but when you state them like fact it crappy
and anoying
Perf wise yes price, intel wins atm lol
my queston
How much for 3700x?
Intel is better vale ATM
why do you need a9900 for gaming
9900k?
yes
I have a 1440p 165hz monitor
Cuz they have 800-1000 to upgrade why not
300 bucks
Playing apex on high on that is hard
i have a 1080p 80hz monitor
Yeah but they already have a z390 mobo so they should just get 9900k right?
i would reccomend an i7 10700k then
Well it's technically z370
yea
that doesnt work
10 gen is nicee
yes but it doesnt work on Z390/Z370
i have a 4790k
Exactly but @trim orbit is saying that my 9900k suggestion is worse value than 3700x and a new mobo lol
Correct
well maybe just get a newer mobo and 10th gen cou
why
There's no point
I mean it's already an upgrade
That's just a waste of moneh
yea
Fair enough
yep
i need a new motherboard anyway
i broke mine
F
the hdmi port
When does 6000 come out?
not announced
ok
Talking $300 for cpu, $400-500 for gpu if I actually find one and like $150 for psu?
Yeah for sure
i got 160 for cpu 150 for gpu
What Psu you have atm?
550 watt seasonic
and 60$ for psu
Gold
Gold is good yeah
60 or 70 for 650/750w segotep on Amazon
I'd recommend 750/ above tho so room for future upgradability and it means your psu will be more efficient on the curve slightly
hey guys can an evga 3070 ftw3 ultra fit into a corsair 280x micro atx?
Ah ok sick
Google the gpu measurements but if it's a 3 fan card mb not
I think the real question is if it will fit in ur case lol
Oh wait
That is the case lol
That's what they askin lol
yea lol
If you google the cases specs you should see the max gpu len you can put in
Could be okay just look at the length of the card now
Yeah
Looks like it should fit
That's what they just did
Oh ok
Hence the screenshots lol
official gpu length should be about 300mm but people on reddit have posted theirs with with like a 330mm with a 25mm fan so a little skeptical lmao
@wanton cliff i learned the freezing only happens after awhile of playing the game
As long as it doesn't touch the fan you're fine
Is your pc overheating?
thank you @fossil cedar
Nb
@stoic island the Commander Pro might be delivered to me either tomorrow or after tomorrow, case not yet :/ maybe like in 5 days
could u send that psu?
this?
looks sus dude
Segotep gp-p is great
uh
why 9900k used
it's just 300$ at MC new
You can probably also sell the PSU for more
yeah
though it looks like 300$ 9900k is gone at MC :(
yeah ik, i saw that too
almost bought it
hadn't thought it through yet tho
im gonna be watching it to see if it comes back
like that back piece?
Yes
not over the square properly?
Thats one lined up hole
The bracket it metal
Reason: Bad word usage
Weird right
Keep getting blocked because bad words
Luckily my cooler manual is all in english
It says i dont use the bracket for 2011, im using LGA 1151
So i use it, doesnt fit
what LGA is it
The board itself?
Yeah iirc intel backplates replace the old one don't they?
And if it supposed to replace the old one that looks like amd so could be mislabeled
Could be an old way of installing coolers
Iirc it should look like this
Thats the only one they provided
At least for 'intel'
The other ones say AMD
Ill check the box
Yeah i dont have one likr that @signal gate
Even in the diagram
Im so frustrated rn
whats a good micro atx case?
mb311l
The screw spots where the standoffs go slide
I am so happy right now
they do???
doesnt look like it lol
Oh they slide
And as soo as i did it i started laughing
It literally looks like it doesnt
But they do
So FYI for everyone if you get a Corsair H115 series AIO the Intel bracket standoff slots slide
Eww Barracuda
The like to die. A lot. Like consistently 10% early failures, vs other brands at 1-3%
Western Digital Blue I think has a 2TB 7200 rpm
ok
Much too expensive
That’s like 500gb ssd
dont see one
tbh should ima just get a 1tb m.2
can someone suggest one?
yee
Pilot e pog
its hecka fast
basically a cheap sn750
If on a budget you can save money by going mp33
Idk how much a mp33 1tb is rn
I'd buy it at like 90 ish
Tbh nowhere near that bad on most models, I think it was just the old barracuda 3tb that raised the average sky high
Don't have good data on it
seagate p bad
Cause that's arguably the most common hdd in builds rn
I use backblaze as general idea of the brand
But yea
I don't think Seagate is as bad as we made it look
ima just get a 1tb m.2
Pilot e is great
yes
oki
What suggestion?
10850k or 10900k are like 30 bucks more
10850k works on a b560
ok
but you cant oc it
oki
im almost at max budget tho tbh
10700kf may be cheaper rn
Eh, 10850k stock with b560 is just fine
yeah
No need for z490
i could take off the extensions
overall besides the two things Ryan recommended it was a swag pc
im just thinking 30 bucks for 2 more cores aint bad
fanks
Does anyone here ever use the Creation Kit? I'm having troubles with it.
Leave the peripheral budget in there, you'll want to use most of it up
Something like 190$ G241, 50$ Keychron C2, 60$ Model O kinda thing
i could just go with an all back one
No need for cable extensions
k
But is fancy
could i get a better case?
not nessesarily better
but a better airflow for a bit cheaper
Oh, I thought he had a budget for it
P360a is right on the money
Cough 5000D Cough
There's nothing cheaper that can compete other than mx330-g air but that isn't rgb
Maybe if you'd want a bigger a bit more upgradeable chassis P400a would be the best choice otherwise P360a is a swag case and it'll suit your needs
Yes
they're both good
ima go cheaper then
Eh, p360a for ease of use, mx330-g for pure performance
and btw the 10850 is not 30 bucks more
Since mx330-g air comes with 3 fans
microcenter has it for that price
MC cheap stuff
in the future I'd say shoot for gpu upgrade first
mhmm
1080 still a good gpu tbh
*f
currently 1080 is still good gpu
but it being a 10 series means that in a few years its going to be a lower end gpu that wont be able to play the latest games at the desired settings
mhm
its rly gonna lack in rtx if you wanna do that
it doesnt have dedicated cores for it so its gonna struggle alot
oh ok
thats great
fansk
What time do you think would be right to upgrade your gpu
when prices are reasonable
im not building for a few months
yeap
thats what i was gonna say
wait what is the 5600x msrp
ah okay so if that is the case get a 3060 ti to go with that build later on
300
300
but it has 2 less cores than 10700f
depends on use case
5600x may be faster than 10700f in pure gaming
idk tho
i dont keep up with those benchmarks
Tbh id say keep 10700f
why up from 10400 to 10600k?
then we started talking ab the 10850k 😆
over the months as i planned my pc and learned more
oh
ima stay with the 10700
build is good and will def serve well for years to come
yeah id guess a 5600x beats a 10700f in pure gaming
10700f is a good price/performance as of this moment
yes
but im guessing a 10700k would beat a 5600x barely
got it
in pure gaming
and its cheaper
mhmm
5600X for pure speed, best "budget" gaming
and doesnt intel pair better with nvidia?
@potent portal I didnt get to congratulate you on techie
yeah good job
I don't think so
It doesn't just pair together better
no not really
Not any more, it used to be that way
k
There's no pairing giving more performance
ok
AMD SAM and Rage Mode would like a chat
sure
Yeah as I hit enter I saw lol
But SAM and rage mode shows little improvement so far
Right, MAYBE 1-5%
400$ for peripherals? Goodies time?? >:D
400 for periphs?
It's a good price
does that include monitor?
oh ok
That'll fit a monitor, decent keeb, good mouse, decent headset
I thought just keeb and mouse
yea
Why did you put a $700 gpu on the list?
Already has it
He has on hand
I think they already own it
Ah
yea he said hes using as placeholder til he can afford and be able to purchase a better gpu easily
G241 for 190$, Keychron C2 for 50$, Model O for 60$, I want to say PC37x for 120$, but if too expensive, maybe like cloud ii or whatever it's called for 100$
I might just pay someone to snipe a FE 3080 for me, lol
w h y
Cause I'm either not awake or working during the times 3080s come in stock
already have a headset so its for a mic
what type of mic do you want
USB or XLR
what does that mean
USB mics are basically plug and play
We had a power surge and my monitor started to smoke and we got our electricity fixed and when i turn it on it starts to flicker and a faint smell of smoke.Is my monitor broken?
that will be good enough
Wait
I'm no technician, but I'd say yeah
ok
Spend more on the keyboard then >:D
and i have my eyes on a mouse
XLR mics use an XLR port then connecting to dac then to pc
Keychron K8 maybe
yea just get that
iirc ive seen a usb mic thats a bit barebones but it was 35 bucks
I heard it was good
I believe it was called the Fifine K669B
if you want you can spend an extra 30 bucks or so for a full mic kit from fifine
the K669B comes with a tripod stand
what gaterons are best
while T669 (kit) comes with boom-arm, shock mount, wind filter, and the little tripod and the mic
ill see if i can fit it
personal preference tbh
Depends on what kind of switch you like
i like yellows
ok
If you want to try tactile, that's Gateron browns
Most people gravitate towards reds
Tf is a Gateron?
Company
switch brand
Oh
pretty much
how much is the model o
60 I think, wireless is 80
I'm still gonna get that fancy k100rgb se with the optical switches.
uless i can fit it in
Lmao sold out
its just k100
Whatever, you get my point
sounds like something they would make though
Just no SE at the end
ok so when i turn the monitor on it shuts off to
Keychron keyboards are nice
Man I can't wait for starlink to be in my area, this is how much progress my Creation Kit download has made in the past 10 minutes
this is ideal
Choose the layout you want
Oh, you guys know Corsair has a 60% now?
I have a K8 because TKL ftw
rllu?
I thought that was kinda kewl
Corsair just being Corsair
yea
Please tell me it's actually gonna have standard bottom row now
Maybe just maybe they'll add hotswap in the future
that would be great
Until then, Keychron ftw
U the type of person who likes the clickity clackity type writer feel?
No but like
Tactiles are good
Clickies are
Ickies
@sharp tundra there's also a lot more linear switches
on a more premium board I'd expect something well premium like some other switches not just cherrys
Tbh
corsair pretty much only uses cherrys
True
But they Garuntee 150mil clicks
only other thing is their membrane or their new optical switches
I’m so close to having enough money to afford the K4v2
One day maybe we'll see like, dunno, tealios or something
Y e s
@wanton cliff remember shipping tho
But y e s
Cherry switches are just meh at best
Amazon prime means free shipping for that product
Yay
Anyone know if Logitech G560 speakers are any good?
I heard they're pretty good for desktop speakers
however they're pricy
you get what you pay for
I was bout to say that
pay 30 bucks youre gonna get 30 bucks worth of sound
yea its good speakers
Razer Goliath time
Cause I want something that'll be good so I don't have to use headphones all the time.
heh
Thas lit
i got a z313 from logitech on a decent deal
was like 25 bucks
i dont use them too often
but decent enough to listen to yt or whatever
I would just buy like some 30 bucks or under speakers for desktop use
because you wont really need 200$ speakers
Unless you want to have a nice open sound
because for music most would like to go for headphones
but youtube using speakers is fine
especially diss tracks
lol
I mean, I'll use them
you have to listen to diss tracks on headphones
lol
If you'll use frequently you might as well get
Cause I'll use them for just music in the room, cause I believe they have Bluetooth, and I'll use them whenever I don't feel like using headphones
Even tho my headphones are really comfy
Then you might as well buy
I was prolly going to anyways, cause it's Logitech, but just needed some reassurance that it would be a good buy.
it will
those are pretty good after all
So will TVs sometimes not allow for a game to play in a resolution that is outside of the native resolution?
The TV has nothing to do with it
Cause I CANT play FO4 without 4k
How so?
Like I've tried to bring it down to 1440p and it just wacks out
Well that’s cause it’s a creation engine game
And the creation engine is known for exactly two things: modding support and being the most buggy and broken engine in existence
Correct
But I should still be able to play in 1440p
Not if Todd doesn't want you to
You ain't wrong either
Literally FO4 is the only game my 1660s can't do 4k60high
Well, it can, just not when I'm in a loaded cell
Where can I find that?
In the game’s files
If on Steam, you can right click the game and tell it to take you through the directory
If the fps limiter is on, it shouldn't limit it in one place and not limit fps in another
Can’t remember what the value is called
Would have to look it up again
But you need to change a ‘1’ to a ‘0’
What Mr1111 said, of it was on, it wouldn't limit fps in some areas and not othera
Does it ever go above 60?
Well no, because I only have a 60Hz TV
Also, I don't see this .ini file
One sec
It’s called Fallout4Prefs.ini
Most of the values can be changed from the launcher but some, like the FPS limiter, can only be changed by the .ini file
And it’s usually locked to either 30, 45, or 60 FPS
I've seen that folder, but not in the fallout 4 folder
Where have you seen it then?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Morphic____/saved/7B7ygs build for a friend, budget around 800-700
Is it good?
I know
Get a 3060ti
Much cheaper, more available, and WAY better performance
But I didn’t check and ofc it was sold out
It’s more available?
Thru shuffle or something?
More available new than the 1660s
True
hay guys, can you help me with some new build trouble?
ye
1660s isn't made anymore, only find them second hand
or oem
like dell sells em
Know that
So where would I get the card
I live near multiple Best Buy’s Abe a microcenter
What I'm saying is, a new 3060ti is only $400, while a used 1660super is gonna cost you $600-700
I am able to power cycle just fine with 850w EVGA, brand new cpu Ryzen 7 x3800, sapphire nitro+, 64 gb RAM, all on b550 MSI WIFI gaming edge motherboard...
however, just tried to power on and smoke came through the gpu...
Well then
yeah. I want to say my gpu just died, but how can I test it?
you could throw it into a spare system
can I test boot in the case without using GPU?
I will give that a shot first.
It won't post
just wont show anything on a screen
got it
Unless it's intel or AMD IG
thx, gonna give it a go
it will boot without a gpu im pretty sure.
AMD
could ram be my issue @wanton cliff
How much do you have
16gbs
Program might have a memory leak
Found it
80% still normal for games like rust tho
oh ok
With windows and all that
Only start worrying around 85 Celsius, come to us when it’s above 90
iPresentInterval, they could've named it better
Yeah
oh wow
so 58 good
Done and done
58 absolutely fine
im back.
Cool
Nothing at all happened
and what is a bad gpu temp
Same thing
102C
it wouldnt even start up in the case...
its 76 c
Core or VRAM?
Or whatever else?
Also what are you using to check it
Cause task manager is dumb and doesn’t do temps for GPU well
I've seen Intel CPUs go higher than that
I just reinstalled Creation Kit, so maybe I can actually use it now
just hooking up the entire pc, minus a gpu
That is, of course, not a good thing
Well it was more of a "throw as much voltage at it as you can because it's getting replaced today anyway" kind of situation
ikr
Enough voltage to light the Board on fire too huh
Smh I've hit ~110c on my 3800x before
Use hwinfo64
Exactly, it was a DDR3 board getting replaced as well as the CPU so we just said F it lets see what we can melt
Sensors only mode
You totally can, when you move to AM5 instead of selling the old parts
Zen 2 does voltage weird though
Imma have to watch some YouTube or something before I start messing with this Creation Kit, otherwise imma end up with flying deathclaws and armless npcs somehow
Vortex works well... for things that are already made
whats power reportin g
Right
That number doesn't matter unless you're doing full load testing
I want to tinker with making stuff yeah
DAMN AUTOCORRECT RUINING EVERYTHING
oh ok
I want to add a couple weapons possibly that I really like irl, and maybe create a small quest line or something
Definitely not
Add the flood to fallout
I want to make my Fallout into Warhammer, the power armor is perfect
Yes
The Flood
The Galaxy eating parasite hell bent on eating everything
Whom destroyed the entire Galaxy in a mere couple centuries
Yup, And imma add it to fallout😎
Do it and upload it to Vortex
That’ll be lit as hell
Oooh!
Make them replace the ghouls
Or
Or?
I could just make a new enemy
That too but having Ghouls and the Flood in the game would be weird
But they're 2 totally different enemies with 2 totally different lores
If I added the flood, there would be a quest behind their appearance in the commonwealth, probably something like a alien ship(not Zetan) crashed in the commonwealth with a mysterious virus that mutats creatures into an infestation
You'd probably have to do each variant of Flood creature as a separate species
welp. good news guys.
Your gpu isn't dead?
Was it the psu
on the other hand, think i fried my motherboard.
Oh...
Lucky you, MB is a lot easier to replace than GPU right now and you can just RMA the board
Just gonna say, I know this dude my son and all, but I hate this MF
agreed
I cant figure out what is wrong with my pc
In his defense, Shaun was raised by the Institute to have Institute values. It's not his fault he's oblivious to all the BS.
WHEW HERE WE GO BOYS-https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HfdPV
Lookin' good
Yeah, but I still hate him, he my damn son and he just thinks of his parents as an experiment and collateral damage, that's pretty scuffed.
?
You got an answer in #graphics-cards
Just type it out, starting with #, and it will suggest as you type
thats fine but
i mean do you have any recommendations? my budget is 500 to 530 dollars
oh wait ddr3 ram :monkas:
yea ddr3 because i5 2500
is ddr3 still relevant or should i look more towards ddr4
to look towards ddr4 you need any 6th gen intel + cpus
i assume thats outside of my budget
GPU situation too bad
do you need the pc rn
At least a gtx 750 is a bit better than iGPUs
hmm
i mean gaming on mac is pretty tough
but im not really in any hurries
If you wait it'll be better
Because the time the gpu situation hopefully settle you'd be able to buy a gpu
Buy an old Xeon + mobo bundle, some used DDR3 non ecc, a new WD Blue 3D 500GB, and some RX 570 4GB or a GTX 960 or something
Yea
used hardware is great at these price ranges
used is probs a better option than those prebuilts
That's exactly what you've been looking at SpaceRat
oh
but i mean the prebuilts are guaranteed to work you dont always know if the used hardware works, at least i think so
Tbf those are like 7 years old components
ye im aware
And prebuilt QC can be questionable
it runs better than my computer
are these specs worth the 1,000 dollars paid for this computer?
i dont think they are lmao
if only amd apus were good prices now
You could sell your Mac and get a bunch of money from that
I'd prob do a 4650g build and get a better dGPU down the line
But if you can't spend more, there aren't a lot of options
i want to keep it though, im a programmer and im rather fond with programming on mac since its unix based. ive always found it painful to program on windows. plus i cant sell it because my parents wont let me so 🤷
what about the athlon 3000G
i hear its okay
but for my budget it should be good
i mean its already far better than what i have currently
Uhh
Isn't the 3000G too pricey now
100 dollars right
Eugh
its msrp was 50 but eh
i3-10100 should be 115 or so
hm
Way better
I'd just do 4650g
well what gpu should i use then
Maybe not as great igpu in i3
The iGPU on the 4650g is fairly competent
None atm
integrated?
Yes, right now, the only thing that'd make sense at the price is iGPU
well a few games i plan on playing are csgo, gta v, maybe minecraft with shaders, doom eternal definitely, and maybe doom 2016
do you think the 4650g can handle that
or the athlon 3000g
Can it really..?
Doom Eternal , AMD Athlon 3000G Vega 3 APU
00:01 - CPU-Z
00:09 - 720p
03:30 - 720p (76%)
07:37 - resolution scaling (60 fps target)
AMD Athlon 3000G
Radeon Vega 3 iGPU at 1600Mhz
Asrock B450M Pro4
2x8GB DDR4-3200
Driver: 20.3.1
low spec
low-spec
LowSpecGamer
TechEpiphany Tech Epiphany
45 fps + to me is playable
it doesnt run the best but it works
oh 720p
lol
so what integrated cpu would y’all recommend for my budget
it seems like it’s between the i3 and the 4650g
Comparison of all the iGPU offerings you have at the price point, pretty easy choice imo
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Ryzen-7-Pro-4750G-with-Radeon-Graphics-vs-Radeon-Vega-11-vs-Intel-UHD-630/4231vs4136vs3826
And 10100 might be uhd620 not uhd630, need to check
1.1ghz dual core....
ok yeah 1 ghz is slow
A 10100 is 4 core 8 thread, I believe something like 3.6ghz base clock
Anyways
Accidentally put 4750g in the comparison, 4650g close enough anyways
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-Vega-11-vs-Intel-UHD-630-vs-Radeon-Ryzen-5-PRO-4650G/4136vs3826vs4353
Ima go make list on mobile now
What's with the vega 11?
Hm, I underestimated the cost, ick
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wgCwJf
@lyric thistle wdym what's with it
Best gaming mouse for FPS?
Depends on hand size and grip
I been using the glorious model o but the wire is damaged now
Wat
The wire ripped on my mouse
So I need to get another one
Is there anything you should look for in a mouse? To gain a competitive edge
Oh well, just use this
https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search
Ahhh so it’s just personal preference
@pseudo forge you need to look for the mouse fitting your hand and not being an office mouse, other than that, it's personal preference
Practically all gaming mice now are 1000hz pooling rate and such
There's very little in terms of performance you can actually get from going above that
Your preference
So my cpu temps usually just spike to almost 100c for the first few seconds of starting something intensive(like rendering), and the go down to about 70c. But if I render an animation, it spikes to 100 each frame, which adds up to a lot of time.
I'm trying to change the fancurve in the bios, but there nothing in it that has anything to do with cooling
What cooler is it..?

