building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

1800 is 3600

What ever fclk is 3733

It actually can”t.

It doesnt post besides safe mode

[muted patio]

Bruyh

Don't touch fclk

[little osprey]

Board just gets stuck in a loop,until it goes to safe mod

[muted patio]

Use just XMP

and leave the rest alone

[little osprey]

Even xmp crashes

[muted patio]

Literally turn on XMP and leave the rest

[little osprey]

It gives me the same problem bruh

Let me take a picture. It will just boot into safe mode

[muted patio]

Then something else is wrong

XMP shouldn't affect boot

[little osprey]

Loaded defaults, turned on d.o.c.p and this....

[muted patio]

So try profile 2

and reseat ram

[little osprey]

I dont have a profile 2z

[fossil cedar]

Well try reseat ram anyway

[little osprey]

Moved ram over to the right slots

Nani

Were something wrong with those slots?

Wait

It worked dafuq

Am i on cocaine

Or... confused

It can do 1900 fclk pog

What

So 1933 is when the board has a stroke

[fossil cedar]

Make sure it's still in dual channel mode tho

[little osprey]

It still is

[muted patio]

bruh

A2/B2

Not A1/B1

-_-

[wanton cliff]

he didnt

he didnt put it in A1 and B1

[muted patio]

he did

[wanton cliff]

please tell me you are lying

[muted patio]

indeed

[cursive wharf]

he did, then he didnt

[wanton cliff]

omfg

[muted patio]

Schrodingers ram

[plush wigeon]

So, I'm trying to decide on the size of my desk and know what can fit. Could I see your setups and the width of your desks? (preferably in inches) Would be very helpful!

[muted patio]

THose are the correct slots, furthest right

[little osprey]

... ah

So board just hates those slots

[wanton cliff]

im too lazy to cable manage and I'm waiting to move the setup to somewhere else anyways

as for measurments...

how do you want me to measure it?

its curved

[little osprey]

Two 34 inch desks from ikea

[azure tinsel]

Ok cool thanks man

[wanton cliff]

wait

660p gronsk

[fossil cedar]

np but you might want to upgrade ssd to 1tb one or add more sotrage later

[wanton cliff]

take a Pilot-E instead

[fossil cedar]

thought intell 660p was good?

i mean is it rlly worth the extra $10 over the 660

[sly niche]

Whats the case name in #build-pics?

[muted patio]

660p meh

And yea

[sly niche]

Some1?

[plush wigeon]

Imagine 660p resolution

[sly niche]

????????????????????

[balmy patio]

it slows down once it fills up iirc

[fossil cedar]

the intel nvme not resolution XD

[plush wigeon]

lel

[fossil cedar]

oof didnt know that

[wanton cliff]

660p gronsk next to pilot e

[fossil cedar]

gronsk?

[muted patio]

Gross

Half the speed of mushkin

[fossil cedar]

ahh

[muted patio]

1800 vs 3500 read

Neither is good

Pilot e $100king

[fossil cedar]

oof well @azure tinsel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4JWdD get this as base with the same power supply

[azure tinsel]

Ok

[wicked frigate]

Guys why is t it letting me get windows on a usb

Do I have to have windows 10 pc

I order to do it

[potent portal]

You don't need to buy Windows to have the installer. What are you trying to do?

[fossil cedar]

What pc are you doing it on?

[wicked frigate]

Windows 8.1

[potent portal]

And you're upgrading to 10?

[wicked frigate]

Ye trying to get it into a usb

[fossil cedar]

They building new pc and need to use Windows media creation tool cuz their other windows install corrupt

[wicked frigate]

So do I have to install windows 10

I. The pc

[potent portal]

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

[wicked frigate]

Than do the usb

[fossil cedar]

@wicked frigate what happens when you open media creation tool?

[wicked frigate]

Ummm

[fossil cedar]

No windows 8.1 should be fine

[wicked frigate]

It lets me download

This

After I click the usb

[potent portal]

Ok, that happens sometimes. Tell it to download the ISO and use Rufus to install to USB

[muted patio]

Cpu might be too old. We are talking fm1 here.

[wicked frigate]

How do I do that

[potent portal]

If it ran 8.1 it should do 10

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio what do I do about the gpu

Than how do I do it?? K#

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Download the ISO file using the media creation tool (instead of the USB option)

[wicked frigate]

Ok wait let me do it

[potent portal]

Then use this to install it to the USB https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.13/rufus-3.13p.exe

[wicked frigate]

K wait

I have to restart my pc

Acting weird

Wait

What do I search up in the search menu

For that GitHub to get it

Cause I am on mobile

On discord

Wait can u write step by step

[potent portal]

Google search terms? Rufus USB

[wicked frigate]

??

K

[potent portal]

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-windows-10-usb-bootable-media-uefi-support
Scroll down to "How to create Windows 10 UEFI boot media with Rufus"

[wicked frigate]

Wait so I don’t go to media creation tool

Umm what is step 6 saying

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Yes go into media creation tool and tell it to download the ISO instead of installing to USB

The ISO file you select will be the one you tell Rufus to use

[wicked frigate]

Ok wait

@potent portal

This right

Sry for the double pic

[potent portal]

Yes, then it will ask you where you want to save it and name it. Remember where you save it. Then tell Rufus to use that ISO.

[wicked frigate]

Ok so should I save it in the usb

?

[potent portal]

No, save to the desktop or downloads folder, somewhere easy to find

[wicked frigate]

K

Do I wait

[potent portal]

Yes, wait for it to download the ISO, it will take some time depending on internet speed

[wicked frigate]

Than

Do what

[potent portal]

The on Rufus hit "SELECT" and choose the ISO you downloaded

[wicked frigate]

For device do I do where I saved it

Or the usb

[potent portal]

"Device" it picked your 32GB USB already

[wicked frigate]

K

I saved it under my download

[potent portal]

You'll hit "SELECT" once it's done downloading, and then start

[wicked frigate]

And will I be able to use this for my new oc

Isn’t it the same thing right

But doing it this way

K

[potent portal]

Yes this will be the latest version of Windows, usable on any PC

[wanton cliff]

@rose jackal

your picture

[wicked frigate]

After I hit select than what

??

[wanton cliff]

is that the guy from tron on top of your pc?

[wicked frigate]

@potent portal after select what do I do

[potent portal]

Hit start, and wait for it to finish copying to USB, then you can use that USB to boot on the other computer

[wicked frigate]

K

[potent portal]

I need to go so can't walk you through that part, someone else can help I'm sure

[wicked frigate]

And what do I do if I want to get windows on this oc

Pc

Ok thx

[rose jackal]

it is kaneda from akira @wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

never heard of it

[rose jackal]

japanese cyberpunk manga

[wanton cliff]

ah

where can I find it?

[rose jackal]

its old somewhere in google

[wicked frigate]

Guys just to make sure are these the right windows 10 files anyone can confirm for me thx

[potent portal]

Looks right

[rustic flare]

ahem

my building savants

im looking for a 3070 right
if i hypothetically get a 3060ti
do i just bite the bullet

[violet harness]

go for it

I mean

its up to you

but personally I would get a 3060ti if u can't get a 3070

[wicked frigate]

Guys my pc is keep turning off

After i start it

[blazing aurora]

it's a great card

can't go wrong with the 60ti

[vagrant olive]

what psu cable extensions would you guys recommend? looking for something not too expensive and white

[rustic flare]

kk

im not gonna be playing at like 4k or anything

so i think might be worth

[pliant lake]

asia horse

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-Customization-Sleeve-Extension-Supply/dp/B07C735N9C/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=asiahorse+white&qid=1616014170&sr=8-3 these are the asiahorse extensions the other person was refering to

[vagrant olive]

yeah thats what i was looking at, thanks 👍

[desert gulch]

yea np

[little osprey]

"Your card will wear out quickly from mining"-Friend

Yeah in like 10+ years at 100C vram

[desert gulch]

id undervolt tho

[little osprey]

^

[desert gulch]

for sure

helps it

[little osprey]

And he's like "Its not worth it, you'll kill the card"

[desert gulch]

not stay at %100 all the time

[little osprey]

Wow very smart.

"Its a waste of electricity".

You make more back from mining lmao

to pay off the bill

and have extra

why do you think Ampere is so good for mining kek

[viral ore]

mining bad for environment

[little osprey]

Cause of its hashrate and its not garbage.

[little osprey]

At this point, we could say everything is.

also depends how we are getting our power.

[viral ore]

i mean yeah everything is

[little osprey]

Like solar panels are bad for the enviroment.

especially when they are degraded.

[viral ore]

99.999% of miners are on grid power

because thats pretty much the only way for mining to be profitable

[little osprey]

and i know some places use totally hydroelectric.

[viral ore]

hence the 99.999% and not 100%

[little osprey]

Ah yes, mining is bad for your card.

not really unless you have 100 of them

and running them in a warehouse with no cooling lol

[viral ore]

mining better for your card than gaming lmao

[little osprey]

^

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[little osprey]

You actually make profit

[desert gulch]

unless you oc to mine

imo

[little osprey]

pretty much

[viral ore]

there are many factors, but at the end of the day its a bunch of people who just wanna make free money without doing any real work

and sucking down power in the process

if you wanna mine on your gaming rig, cool. if all your doing with the hardware is mining, i very much dislike you

[little osprey]

^

Exactly.

Many people here mine but aren't full miners

[viral ore]

wasting power cuz you're too lazy to make money in other ways

and all those stupid ASIC miners

[little osprey]

ASIC KEK

[odd urchin]

anyone available to talk builds?

i need to build a good liquid cooled rendering/gaming rig that will last me at least 8+ years, but im going to have one problem: there are no GPUs in stock.

[desert gulch]

budget?

[robust lake]

8 years-_-

[odd urchin]

yeah i dont want to go into it

[desert gulch]

bruh budget?

[odd urchin]

its personal and something im going to go through here in the next few years

[odd urchin]

close to 7k

[desert gulch]

damnnnn

[odd urchin]

give or take

[robust lake]

Well a 3090 sli

[desert gulch]

5900x/5950x and 3090 is top of the line rn

for gaming

[odd urchin]

yeah well they are sold out

[desert gulch]

so bascially

[robust lake]

Try evga site

[odd urchin]

which sucks ass

[desert gulch]

in todays world

you buy gpu first

then buy other components

so it will all depend on when you can snag a gpu

[odd urchin]

sigh

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[odd urchin]

this is what i was afraid of

so i maybe still stuck with this dying rig for another how many months

fml

[desert gulch]

what rig you got rn?

[odd urchin]

its got a threadripper 1970x with a 1080ti but the gpu has taken its toll cause of the software i put stress on it

[desert gulch]

damn still a good build

[odd urchin]

yeah but things like daz studio is slowly destroying it

[desert gulch]

that 1080ti is still prolly worth big bucks with current market state

ive seen 5700xt's going for over 1k

[odd urchin]

i mean when i had this gpu, the other versions of daz didnt hurt it as much, but the recent versions have been putting major stress on it now

and thats just daz

sigh why did silicon have to be in shortage ><

[desert gulch]

its all supply and demand ig

ive heard the 3k series is somewhat difficult to manufacture

more so than prior series like 2k and 1k

[odd urchin]

thing is nvidia is still top dog in speeds

which is why i wont go anything less than a 3090

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[odd urchin]

if i could afford a quadro i would

but god damn those things are expensive

[desert gulch]

yeah id def reccomend a ryzen 5900x/5950x for sure

for the cpu

5900x is the best gaming cpu

[odd urchin]

what about those new 11th gen intels?

[desert gulch]

most you can get is 8 cores

[odd urchin]

they going to be any good?

[desert gulch]

so for workstation they are meh

[odd urchin]

oh ok

[desert gulch]

600 bucks for the 11900k

8 cores, 16 threads

5.3ghz max boost

honestly mostly a gaming cpu

[odd urchin]

question though

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[odd urchin]

wouldnt doing an sli on 3090 be overkill?

[desert gulch]

idk depends on how much workstation could benefit from it, and if its worth it for you

[odd urchin]

even one alone is greaat enough

[desert gulch]

a lot of games dont support sli

so its more of a workstation thing

[odd urchin]

i mean its already a HUGE increase from my 1080ti

[desert gulch]

yeah easily

prolly 2x in gaming performance with rtx off

[odd urchin]

actually heres another question

[desert gulch]

sure

[vivid isle]

good build?-https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWtBHz

[odd urchin]

ok so im mainly using this computer for as a rendering rig mind you but i do game on the side. quadros are VERY good for rendering speeds for 3d modeling. they ok to use also for gaming on the side or no?

[desert gulch]

3090 would def be better for gaming imo

idk how well a quadro would perform in a game

[odd urchin]

hmmm

[desert gulch]

id go for a se 224 xt

[desert gulch]

and get a bigger ssd

[odd urchin]

i wondering if i can find out if quadros are ok in gaming cause if they are, i may just go that route

[vivid isle]

naw im oc

[odd urchin]

cause as i said i mainly do loads of 3d rendering

[vivid isle]

ill be fin

fine*

[desert gulch]

yeah idk, depends on what your priority would be, gaming or rendering

keep in mind a 3090 is still a beast at rendering

and games

[odd urchin]

no it is i agree

[desert gulch]

@muted patio has a 224 xt on his wifes 10600k and he says it works great for him

[odd urchin]

but the top dogs in rendering is the RTX quadro 6000 and 8000

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[odd urchin]

thing is though the 8000 is over 5k ><

[vivid isle]

yeh he said that but he said the arctic is good for oc

[desert gulch]

oof

[vivid isle]

😭

[odd urchin]

yeah

its a pricey gpu

[desert gulch]

110 for a cpu cooler is spendy

[vivid isle]

yeh ik 😭

[desert gulch]

even a d15 or dark rock pro 4 is cheaper

[vivid isle]

i get that

[desert gulch]

and prolly just as good if not better

[vivid isle]

apparently the alf2 is the best aio u can get

im also going for aesthetics

[odd urchin]

ok so quadros are ok for gaming cause in general, all nvidia cards are made similar. the difference is, gaming gpus can have i guess higher framerates in gaming while rendering gpus have higher rendering speeds

i guess

but yeah i can use a quadro for gaming

i just looked it up

[desert gulch]

yeah youd just have to watch some benchmarks on the quadro you think youd go for

[odd urchin]

yeaha

[robust lake]

It cost more then double tho

[desert gulch]

way better in rendering

[odd urchin]

yeah thats the downside, gaming gpus are cheaper

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[odd urchin]

ok let me rescind my previous statement about the 8000....its close to 8k 🤦

[desert gulch]

lmao

[odd urchin]

the 5000 is the one close to 5k

[desert gulch]

yikes

[vivid isle]

noooo

why not try for a 3090? is it bad at rendering?

[odd urchin]

no its not

problem is all the gaming gpus are out of stock til further notice

however

the workstation ones are actually IN stock

[vivid isle]

ohh

[odd urchin]

thats the sad part

[vivid isle]

i see

[desert gulch]

yea

[vivid isle]

i wish i had 8k for a build

u have freaking 8k for a card!!!

[desert gulch]

huh

he has 7k for a build

[vivid isle]

wish i was an adult

[desert gulch]

not 8k for a card

[vivid isle]

oh

thought he was getting the 8000

[desert gulch]

can still work and stuff

[odd urchin]

dude the 5000 even is a huge huge jump from my 1080TI

[desert gulch]

mhmm

but that comes at a price

[odd urchin]

actually bigger than 3090 in rendering speeds

[vivid isle]

ik i do

[odd urchin]

yeaah

i mean with the 5000, i wouldnt need to sli or anything

it by itself is plenty of power

[still roost]

GohanF22#0117 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[odd urchin]

crap

ooops

[vivid isle]

what did u say

[odd urchin]

the other word for crap XD

[vivid isle]

oh xD

ima try it

the other word for crap xD

[odd urchin]

ok so 3090 actually is doing better than the quadro RTX in the benchmarking

sigh

i was wrong on that

[fossil cedar]

Quadros are for workstation stuff mainly

[little osprey]

Liquid cooled?

Really

AIO's can lose performance from evaporation.

You might as well go custom loop

and GPU stock doesn't plan to get better anytime soon

[odd urchin]

well yeah. this is mainly used for rendering

[fossil cedar]

Yeah not meant for gaming xd

[odd urchin]

im doing DIY

[odd urchin]

i mean i can game with it but it wont have AS fast framerates like the gaming ones

[fossil cedar]

Fair yes

[uneven fractal]

when is the drop for the 6700xt tomorrow

people saying 9 am pdt and 6am pdt

[violet harness]

I wouldn't

you have to maintain it

and it gets very annoying

[desert gulch]

air cooling way easier and better imo

[violet harness]

agree

[desert gulch]

if something fails its usually a fan

which is ez to fix

[violet harness]

and fans are fairly cheap

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[quasi ferry]

water looks beter though lol

[desert gulch]

like 6 bucks for a p12

so?

thats reflected in price

[violet harness]

so???

[quasi ferry]

idk lol

[violet harness]

I'd rather have a d15 then custom water loop

[violet harness]

@desert gulch

[desert gulch]

id rather have a dark rock pro 4

i hate the look of noctua fans tbh

[violet harness]

chromax black tho

[desert gulch]

even tho they are among the best

[violet harness]

[desert gulch]

i still like the looks of dark rock pro 4

[violet harness]

yeah I was considering getting a dark rock slim

[violet harness]

smexy

[desert gulch]

vs that

oops

[fossil cedar]

Bout 2pm gmt from what i can tell

[violet harness]

doesnt it mess with ur ram tho

[desert gulch]

d15 ugly

[violet harness]

better perf tho

[desert gulch]

not much

[stoic island]

What if I told you

Freezer ii

[desert gulch]

nah

we talking about air stuff mr1

[violet harness]

I love arctic cooling

best aio

tbh

[balmy patio]

what if, nh-u12a

[stoic island]

Yes U12a domination

[desert gulch]

Cap

@stoic island what cooler would you get for an overclocked 10600k?

Se 224 xt or sumthin?

[stoic island]

Sure

Gammaxx 400 maybe

[desert gulch]

Like if you wanted to max out it

[wanton cliff]

For maxing out?

[desert gulch]

Yea

[wanton cliff]

Dark Rock Pro 4 imo

[desert gulch]

How high does a 10600k go?

[violet harness]

in degrees or clock speed

[desert gulch]

Clocks

[oak kayak]

Hey everyone, I wanted to build a computer with the Asus dark hero Mother Board in the Cosmos C700M ATX case. although I get an error in the PC part picker.
This is what shows up:
** Cooler Master Cosmos C700M ATX Full Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port, but the Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A port will not be usable.**
Is there any way I can make it work with that case, or would I just simply not be able to use the front panel like it says. I don't know a whole lot USB ports and which Gen works with what. I'm just curious if theres any way I can make it work.

[wanton cliff]

you can still use it

just not with USB 3.0

[oak kayak]

Ok awesome, Thanks!

[wanton cliff]

there are a few things that PCPP will say for nearly every combo of parts, but very few of them are actually that bad

[oak kayak]

ok Thank you very much.

[quasi hemlock]

Do i need a windows product code or can I proceed without and get one later?

[wanton cliff]

you can get one later

[quasi hemlock]

why wouldn't my PC recognize that the USB has an installed version of windows 10 is my new question then

also, could you tell me what difference having a product key would make

[wanton cliff]

no watermark, more customization

and a few other minor things

[quasi hemlock]

thx

[potent portal]

If you don't activate you can't customize anything and you get this annoying watermark over literally everything in the bottom corner

[quasi hemlock]

ok

[wanton cliff]

watermark can be removed in RegEdit

[quasi hemlock]

I'm currently re-downloading windows to my usb drive to see if that resolves the issue

worth a shot I guess

it didn't work

[still roost]

Patrick Mahomes II#7353 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[quasi hemlock]

This is always blank and when I browse and select the usb it doesn’t work

[little osprey]

Hard drives, SSD's or what?

Also you don't need to install drivers during that.

[quasi hemlock]

Tbh idk what I’m doing

And nobody will really tell me what to do besides press install

[wanton cliff]

that looks like windows 7

you sure you downloaded the windows 10 tool?

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

[quasi hemlock]

Oh

For context I’m using my laptop to download windows 10 onto a usb for my new pc I built two days ago

And yes

[visual dawn]

Hello Anyone up for some monitor diagnosing? Monitor was fine for the past week or so. Tonight it kept blacking out. It kept saying "not running at optimized resolution" it also kept flipping from analog to dialog. My monitor is an analog monitor, hooked to an adapter and then plugged in to my computer. I tried lowering the resolution through windows/screen settings. no avail. It was fine until today.

[visual dawn]

I'll check by again tomorrow. good night

[autumn aurora]

Question

Is there such thing as a defective RGB chip

[eager flower]

i messed up a hard drive badly

i meanthumb drive

any help?

PC doesn't register it as a storage device but knows somethingis plugged in

[worn wave]

Does it show up in disk management

[eager flower]

hm now it does

one sec

[worn wave]

You might just need to format it

[eager flower]

ill reformat it

ive had so many issues of like ghost partitions

only shows up in disk manager

while formatted

[worn wave]

Assign it a drive letter

[eager flower]

still shows this

one sec

[worn wave]

That's why it's not showing up

[eager flower]

ugh i hate this lol

thank you'

[brittle tinsel]

What is better, mx4 or 5?

[desert gulch]

5

[muted patio]

Gotta click populate

Ir doesnt auto read

[brittle tinsel]

Would 2 grams be enough for 4 applications?

[muted patio]

Gotta click populate. It doesnt auto read

[eager flower]

Vintage oh boy do I need your help

Do I have a hardware issue

[desert gulch]

Idk

[brittle tinsel]

Hmm

[muted patio]

Cpu or ram issue. Yikes.

Check event viewer for whea errora

Update bios?

[brittle tinsel]

Vintage would you know about how many grams of therm paste I would need for 4 applications, maybe 5 since this is my first time

[eager flower]

Not a gpu issue? It seemed like that until a mem test lol

[eager flower]

Latest, but I can’t update AMD drivers it won’t let me

[muted patio]

Drivers dont do anything. Thats a cpu or ram issue

[eager flower]

AMD cpu driver, but I get what you’re saying

Maybe a memory controller issue tbh

[muted patio]

Or ram in the wrong slota

[eager flower]

It’s in 2 and 5

4*

[muted patio]

Could be bad cpu ive seen a few dead 5600x

[eager flower]

Ugh that’ll be a pain

[muted patio]

Check event viewer for whea

Ifbthose bad cpu

If not those bad ram

Test ram single stick too

One at a time.

[eager flower]

I will, I’m at 177 errors now lol

Still doing memtest86

Everything has an issue with CPU:8 so I’m assuming maybe one of the threads are faulty

[muted patio]

Mmmmm

May as well cancel

Check forbwhea or test single stick

[eager flower]

New error message

Saving this here for later

occt timne

[brittle tinsel]

What is the best thermal paste for cpu’s? Is mx5 high on the list?

[eager flower]

@muted patio no whea errors mem testing on OCCT for a few minutes

[formal plover]

👋

[upper moon]

What do you recomend for a cheap computer to built just to browse web and watch videos (Movies youtube etc) basically a streaming device I guess... For future reference years down road or decades if video gaming ever bores me... (This is more a exercise in how cheap a computer can bet etc)

[eager flower]

phone

[upper moon]

Phone is too boring

screen is small lolz

[formal plover]

Is $300 a good budget?

[eager flower]

gt 710

pentium 4

[formal plover]

Phone is awful for web browsing

[formal plover]

Stop I'm trying to actually help him

[eager flower]

lmao what

im not wrong

[fossil cedar]

A 300$ laptop but it's gonna be a crappy experience

[upper moon]

Can you built a fairly decent desktop for 300 bucks ?

[eager flower]

you can get like an apu probably

[formal plover]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

Not rlly i mean probs

[formal plover]

I can make you a pcpartpicker list

[little osprey]

a Raspberry pi zero.

[formal plover]

One second

[upper moon]

ty

[formal plover]

Stop

[little osprey]

Also whats up with zen3?

[muted patio]

In evenr viewer?

[eager flower]

where in event viewer

[fossil cedar]

Well ofc all the wanna do is watch YouTube etc

[little osprey]

Did Zen2 ever get plagued with this many issues?

Hear lots of issues of Zen 3 not posting, WHEA, driver, or the chip is DOA

[eager flower]

am i still blocked

[muted patio]

Windows then system

[eager flower]

no im not

[formal plover]

@upper moon I sent you a dm

[little osprey]

Great, now i really want to build a mini itx system. Time to do it.

[eager flower]

got a bunch of warnings and informations

[muted patio]

Like? Checka few, whea usually haplens in clumps

[eager flower]

actually none related to anything

[muted patio]

You can search for whea as well

[muted patio]

If none

Time to test one ram stick at a time

With memtest

Slow and boring

[eager flower]

hold on i mightve found a thing or two

[muted patio]

Event log

[eager flower]

top is "computer rebooted from bugcheck"

[muted patio]

Kernel power just means a reboot

Bugcheck kinda useless

Butbwith memtest results

Really need to check each stick individually now

[eager flower]

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and MEMORY_something

[muted patio]

Thar should be next steps

[eager flower]

ok Ill do that right now, thanks

[muted patio]

YW

Hopefully it's just one stick

[eager flower]

I hate the rainbow puke sometimes

[upper moon]

which RTX you got Fallen ?

[little osprey]

My eyes damn thats so bright

[eager flower]

This isn’t too promising

[eager flower]

3070

[upper moon]

nice.

[eager flower]

Great for mining lol

[upper moon]

how much

Money

You make off mining

[eager flower]

I’ve made ~$20USD from 50ish hours

[muted patio]

First stick?

[eager flower]

Yep should I end it and go to the second

At 56 errors atm

[muted patio]

Check the memory addresses against the first test you did

[upper moon]

350 hours would net you 140 bucks

[muted patio]

Not the same I just looked

[eager flower]

Different

[upper moon]

700 hours would net y ou

280 bucks

[eager flower]

Different everything

[muted patio]

Those start with 2, others start with 4

[upper moon]

Mining seems waste of time

[muted patio]

You using A2 or B2 slot?

[upper moon]

I mean its good if you want to get a free fast food meal but it stresses out hardware

[eager flower]

A2 I thunk

[upper moon]

making it dumb

[eager flower]

Just slot 2

[muted patio]

Check your manual, some like B2 as the single ram slot

[little osprey]

Thats why undervolt exists

[eager flower]

Not at all, but this is a matter for a diff day

[eager flower]

Will do

[little osprey]

Unless your running your gpu at like max vram temp all the time, then not much issues

[potent portal]

It's good if you have cheap power or you don't pay for the power, then it's all profit.
Plus "worn out" hardware is indistinguishable from other used hardware, same performance.

[upper moon]

Granted last time I ate at a Mcdonalds was in February 2020

[eager flower]

It’s in the right slot

[little osprey]

Power limiting and undervolting

[upper moon]

Mcdonalds just lacks anything interesting

[eager flower]

End the test and try the other?

[muted patio]

May as well

[upper moon]

@potent portal Whole point of a gaming PC is to game on. not mine on

ANd you want your hardware to stay in top shape for as long as possible

for better gaming performance

[eager flower]

But if I’m not gaming why not mine

[muted patio]

May as well have your PC do something useful when you're not gaming

[upper moon]

mining would lower overall performance

of your gaming rig

[eager flower]

No it won’t

[little osprey]

Lmao

Not at all

[muted patio]

Only if run while gaming

[little osprey]

Unless you dont take care of it

Thats why you change thermal pads

[upper moon]

I am so hardcore

[little osprey]

Power limit

[upper moon]

I am playing Resident Evil 3 on Hardcore mode

[little osprey]

Under volt

[upper moon]

and doing grand

[muted patio]

Don't have to change pads on all GPU'

[little osprey]

And close all other programs

[potent portal]

Chances are that hardware will outlast the system, you'll probably replace it before it fails

[little osprey]

You dont need to, but if thermals are hot you should

[muted patio]

You stil have both sticks in?

[upper moon]

So mining is something everyone with decent PC should do ?

To help them buy a decent take out meal

at some point >

[muted patio]

How you gonna know with a 3060 or 3070 that doesn't report VRAM temps?

[eager flower]

No

[muted patio]

Intersting

[little osprey]

If electricity priced arent horrid

[eager flower]

That’s only 8 gigs

[muted patio]

Memtest noted 8870 and 8890 MB for the defects

[potent portal]

It's definitely not for everyone, especially if you have higher power rates you might just break even and not make any profit

[upper moon]

3060 is not good I heard

[muted patio]

Doesn't matter if they are

[upper moon]

Its about 2070S in terms of performance

[eager flower]

That makes sense doesn’t it

[muted patio]

I'm wondering if it's part of the cache or something

Looking into it

[little osprey]

Then why mine if you are paying more for electricty then you are making back

[muted patio]

Because it doesn't work that way

Go read about it

Even with the most expensive elctricity it's still highly profitabloe

[upper moon]

PG&E is evil

[eager flower]

Round 2

[upper moon]

Its Califorinas electricity provider but they suck big time and caused many deaths

[eager flower]

New stick: in

Shamrock: shake

[muted patio]

Fingers crossed it's just one

[potent portal]

I already know my utility charges more than average so I'm not even bothering mining
Yes PGE is evil but that's a whole other issue, they lied about inspecting power and gas lines

[muted patio]

If this one errors too, time to test more slots

[upper moon]

@eager flower Never get coffee or shakes from MC donalds they never clean the machines much I heard so all sorts of nasty gunk and stuff in the machines

[muted patio]

Old wives tale lol

[eager flower]

I’ll take this into consideration as I’m sipping my shamrock shake, thanks

No errors so far

So might be the individual stock

[potent portal]

Also if McD tells you their shake machine is broken, 90% chance they're just lazy and don't want to clean it
Source: former roommate worked there

[eager flower]

Stick*

[upper moon]

Why is mcdonalds viewed as one of the worst places one could work at ?

Is it due to the grave yard shifts ?

[eager flower]

It isn’t imo

[potent portal]

They know every single person in that restaurant can be replaced in a week if they quit suddenly

[muted patio]

High turnover

[potent portal]

They don't give a care about any worker

[little osprey]

Also machines can be nasty in general lol

[upper moon]

Chickens used by McDonald's are among the most abused animals on the planet. Bred to grow so large so fast, they often can't walk without pain. Hundreds of brands—including Burger King, Starbucks, Subway, Jack in the Box, and Denny's—have committed to banning the cruelest practices inflicted on chickens.

[eager flower]

Might as well clean out my bottom dust filter

@muted patio 7 minutes clean

[muted patio]

Really

[muted patio]

that's good news unles that's a kit of ram and you have to return both

Still, let it finish

[eager flower]

I do unfortunately

[muted patio]

Hopefully just one bad stick

[eager flower]

Should I stick it back in and roll with it until they can RMA it or only keep one in

I got an esports tournament Saturday and need the working pc until then

[muted patio]

Only keep one in

Memory errors like tha twill BSOD you at the worst times

[eager flower]

Fair enough. I’ll go do hw while it’s finishing tests thank you for all your help

[muted patio]

YW

At least it's not a CPU

[eager flower]

That would’ve killed me a bit inside

Ram is more easily

[brittle tinsel]

Bsod?

[eager flower]

Replaceable

[muted patio]

I've diagnosed 3 on here so far

Bad 5600x

whea errors up the wazoo and other things

[eager flower]

Yeah they had an issue with the AEGSA

Oh well

When this is done I’m gonna OC my vram speeds to +3000 lol

[muted patio]

This wasn't an agesa thing lol

New CPU fixed all the issues

:/

[eager flower]

I know that, but AEGSA had many issues when the cpu was new

It would spit out hundreds of WHEA errors for me

[muted patio]

What version was it?

[potent portal]

blue screen of death

[brittle tinsel]

Of

Oof*

[eager flower]

Just 1.0 I think

[potent portal]

Commonly seen as the Windows 10 " 😦 " screen

[eager flower]

And my BSODS weren’t bad tbh

Only when launching or closing valorant lmao

[little osprey]

Hello

[brittle tinsel]

Hey fal, if I apply too much therm paste, is there a way to remove it without damaging anything (never applied it before)

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[muted patio]

If the same ram, might have been that all along lol

[wanton cliff]

take off the cooler gently

get an alcohol pad

take all the paste off

[eager flower]

Yeah just clean off the excess with a napkin

[wanton cliff]

put a smaller amount back on

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t have pads only bottles of 99%

[wanton cliff]

that works too

[eager flower]

And alcohol pad for the paste on the cpu

[brittle tinsel]

And what if it gets in the edges of the cpu?

[eager flower]

Might’ve lol. It stopped after a BIOS update

I’ll never know though

[muted patio]

99% fine, use paper twol

towel

[little osprey]

i want to buy a gaming laptop but i want to know if it can even handle GTA V and fn

anyone can help?

[wanton cliff]

most laptops these days can handle a bit of GTA

whats your budget?

[eager flower]

DONT buy a gaming laptop if you can

But yes it’ll be fine

[little osprey]

why not?

[eager flower]

My 1060 crappy burnt out laptop could

[wanton cliff]

I really dont get the hate

[muted patio]

They get hot

[eager flower]

Weren’t you hating on it a week or two ago

[muted patio]

Burn legs

[eager flower]

And have you ever had a gaming laptop

[little osprey]

i already found the gaming laptop

[wanton cliff]

I am on one now (1650Ti, 10300h)

[muted patio]

Honestly, if it has at least a 11050TI in it, it will run GTA V just fine

[eager flower]

How long have you had it

[little osprey]

10th Gen Intel®️ Core i5-10300H processor
16 GB of DDR4 system memory
Display 60 Hz :1920 x 1080
NVIDIA GTX 1650 Ti

[muted patio]

GTA doesn't take a whole lot of HP

[wanton cliff]

Acer Nitro 5?

[little osprey]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

Im on one now lmao

the exact same one

[little osprey]

how good is it?

[wanton cliff]

not great

[little osprey]

Oh

[eager flower]

This is how a cool my laptop

No joke

[wanton cliff]

I have to keep low settings on most games and sometimes turn down the render scaling to average around 50 FPS

[little osprey]

can it handle fn atleast?

[wanton cliff]

maybe at really low settings

and, like I said, if you turn down render scaling

but I havent tried it

DM me so I can remember you and I'll take a look at it this weekend for you if you want

[eager flower]

If vintage is lurking this is good newsb

[wanton cliff]

hes in windows and software rn

[little osprey]

okay

[eager flower]

He will be back eventually

[muted patio]

Let it run all the passes

sometimes it doesn't show until pass 3 or 4

[eager flower]

I will it’s still running

If I leave and come back and it finished will I see how many errors

[cloud sparrow]

Can someone help me out?

with upgrading my pc

[muted patio]

Budget and current specs?

[cloud sparrow]

1000 duget

rx 560

8g raam

GA-78LMT-S2,

motherboard

and 6300

thats all

[muted patio]

is this in a prebuilt or custom case?

[cloud sparrow]

prebuilt

its a cyber power pc

idk which one tho

[muted patio]

Ah, that helps

we can re-use parts

[cloud sparrow]

ok

i just wanna be able

to run over 75fps

[muted patio]

Do you know how big the power supply is?

[cloud sparrow]

no

how to check

[muted patio]

There's a label on it but might have to remove it from the PC

So I'm not going to worry about that just yet

[cloud sparrow]

if i find the pc build

cause its pree built

i can probally find it

i found it

can i put a link?

[muted patio]

Probably not, DM it to me

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-6300-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-560-1tb-hard-drive-black/6072200.p?skuId=6072200

[cloud sparrow]

o shoot

[muted patio]

Kinda small drive also

[eager flower]

The test keeps sleeping sheesh

[muted patio]

just 1 TB or have you added more?

[cloud sparrow]

vintage

is it good?

[muted patio]

mmmm

[cloud sparrow]

so what can i upgrade it

with

i have about 800-1000 i can upgrade it with

[muted patio]

I would suggest upgrading pretty much everything

and keeping the case and drive

[cloud sparrow]

should i just get a new pc

[muted patio]

WOrking on it, hold on

[cloud sparrow]

i can go up to 1200

[muted patio]

450 watt power supply

I've got a couple of options but the hardest part will be a GPU

You might need to use that 560 until you can find a new one

[cloud sparrow]

how abt

a rx 580

570

gtx 1660

[muted patio]

Those aren't available anymore

[cloud sparrow]

danag

[muted patio]

At least not at reasonable prices

Even GTX 960 can't find

Like, $200 lol

[cloud sparrow]

dang

[muted patio]

SO hang on, got a couple different builds

[cloud sparrow]

ok pls

180fps +

i just wanna be able to frickin stream

etc

[muted patio]

I know

[cloud sparrow]

newegg website has some good ones

[muted patio]

SO this one is $800 without a GPU. Could also get rid of the case and use the one you have now and save even more. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BXztBc

[cloud sparrow]

ok

and what gpu

[muted patio]

GPU would be up to you, what you could find

ALl the good GPU's are super hard to get

[brittle tinsel]

Any good 420mm aio’s preferably non rgb if not that’s ok? Arctic freezer 420mm is sold out only option on Amazon is used

[muted patio]

This one is straight $1200 with a GPU IF you can get one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3cLQht

[cloud sparrow]

can i send u a link?

[muted patio]

I sent two links

Two different builds

[cloud sparrow]

the second one

u sent

the gpu isnt availbe

[muted patio]

Right

No GPU's are available right now

so you'd have to use your RX560 until you could get one

[cloud sparrow]

can i send u something

[desert gulch]

could save on ssd and psu imo

[muted patio]

Why 420mm? For an AIO just use a 360mm

CPU's don't need a 420mm

[cloud sparrow]

vintage i sent u a pc build

[brittle tinsel]

Idk, my case supports it, and I figure more heat dispersion with bigger rad

[muted patio]

There is a point of diminishing returns

WHich is right around the 360mm to 420mm mark

[brittle tinsel]

I mean I could go with 560 I think is what my case supports or something like that lol

[muted patio]

O.o

[brittle tinsel]

What would you recommend, I prefer 360-420 because they look nicer to me

[muted patio]

That should only be used for custom water cooling loops, that's enough to handle a CPU and GPU lol

360mm more than enough

[eager flower]

Yo vintage

3/4 passes error free

[muted patio]

Eh, it's fine

just one bad stick then

[eager flower]

I can end the test?

[muted patio]

Yes

[eager flower]

Hallelujah

Time to OC my GPU to +3000 mem

[violet harness]

let's see a setup pic

[eager flower]

What

[violet harness]

a pic of your gaming setup

[eager flower]

I think I deleted it rn

My bad lol

[wary burrow]

Do I have to download the network drivers or can I skip it n it will connect to the internet

I’m using lan btw

[balmy patio]

yee

ethernet / network drivers shall be downloaded

unless by network you mean wifi, then no, but it’s good to have in case ethernet cable gets wonky

[wary burrow]

Do I download it on a different flash drive or can I download it on the same one I have my windows

Is my first time building so I don’t no much bout drivers

[balmy patio]

if it already has ethernet drivers, which it prob should then it’ll download new ones, unless it’s a relatively new chipset and a cheap board, such as the b560m-hdv which didn’t have the ethernet drivers and such, so to use ethernet the user had to use a wifi adapter smh

[wary burrow]

Alr

[balmy patio]

if it’s realtek lan then windows should give it to you iirc, if it’s intel lan, then the intel website it is

[brittle tinsel]

2 questions
1 is this real
2 is this better than a 10603gb

https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Tesla-K20-Accelerator-900-22081-0010-000/dp/B00BU8H3LU/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=nvidia+graphics+card&qid=1616044984&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=electronics&sprefix=nvidia+gr&sr=1-15

[desert gulch]

Not for gaming

[brittle tinsel]

Damnit

[wary burrow]

Is that one of those printing gpu

[brittle tinsel]

My only gpu fried and I can’t find even gtx 730 for cheap

[desert gulch]

Bruh

[halcyon swallow]

Rip

[desert gulch]

If it says SERVER in the title

Don't buy it

[wary burrow]

I cant even get a gpu

[halcyon swallow]

A uhh 980ti is good if you can find it at the right price

[desert gulch]

Any gpu is good for the right price

[wary burrow]

If gpu prices don’t go down til June idk what I might do

[desert gulch]

June 7th right?

[brittle tinsel]

I have 3 rx 570s laying around but they suck balls, and I need NVENC encoder fml

[wary burrow]

I’m down with any time in June

[brittle tinsel]

I’ve heard we are looking at high prices till q3 2021

[halcyon swallow]

Jeez

[wary burrow]

Damn q3

I can wait til q3

[brittle tinsel]

I can’t

[wary burrow]

I just can’t run demanding things

[brittle tinsel]

My pc died and I’m out of work until I can replace it, and with no income now this has proven to be a problem

[halcyon swallow]

Was it the psu?

[wary burrow]

Power supply

[brittle tinsel]

Ok, I don’t know if the gpu fried or not, it doesn’t smell burnt and I can’t test it until I get my new cpu and power supply, cpu will be here Monday but the psu is sold out

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah

It blew the wire up it fried so vad

Bad

[wary burrow]

Wow

[halcyon swallow]

What brand holi crap

[wary burrow]

What psu?

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

Apevia Venus 550watt

[halcyon swallow]

Wtf

[wary burrow]

What card did u have

[brittle tinsel]

1060

[wary burrow]

I say u should of just gotten a Evga

[halcyon swallow]

Aweee dude that sucks

[wary burrow]

Not everyone got a lot of money chill out dude

[halcyon swallow]

I’d do some unthinkable things for a 1080ti or a 1060ti

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know if asus 1060 3gb has any protections to help or not, the mobo and ram was dead so I’d assume drives and gpu are swell

[wary burrow]

I’ll just save for a 1660 super or a 1650 super

Save up

[brittle tinsel]

Last I checked those are more expensive than a new 3070

[wary burrow]

Yeah but that’s rn

[halcyon swallow]

Ikr ya

[wary burrow]

I’m waiting for it to go down too

All I got rn is the apu n no gpu

[brittle tinsel]

Apu?

[wary burrow]

Is a cpu with graphic

[halcyon swallow]

?

[brittle tinsel]

Igpu?

[halcyon swallow]

Igpu

Haha

[wary burrow]

Ppl call it that

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah

Never head apu