building-and-recc-chat

[muted patio]

I've honestly never seen that on a board before, must be an Asrock B450 thing

[autumn aurora]

Yeah , I ain’t complaining for the price tho hahaha 110 bucks

[muted patio]

I use that hub, nice to have all the fans in one place with one control

[brittle tinsel]

Can I daisy chain these?
And if so how many should I chain to a fan port?

ARCTIC P14 PWM PST CO - 140 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, Dual Ball Bearing for Continuous Operation, Computer, 200-1700 RPM - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3NWBDR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CR4JVC6JWNJ58NG44KK4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[muted patio]

3-5 per PWM port. best to stick with 3

[brittle tinsel]

Hmm, does the fans on the aio power off of the aio port or need a fan port?

[muted patio]

Need a fan port typically

Pump goes on the AIO header

Honestly

Get the deepcool hub

Plug into the CPU fan header

plug all the fans into the hub

Then control fan speeds with CPU fan curve

I do my case that way, works great

[brittle tinsel]

Wait so you can put 10 on 1 port if you use a hub?

[muted patio]

yes, hub is powered separately

by Sata power

I have 7 fans on mine

[brittle tinsel]

Oh, I don’t know if I have enough sata power then...

[muted patio]

Also makes for clean wiring

You only need 1 sata power connector

Most PSU's come with 5-6 at least

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah but I got 4 maybe 6 drives and an aio

[muted patio]

What power supply

[autumn aurora]

That hub connects to only one Sata buuut I’ve got a sugestion

[brittle tinsel]

Enermax revolution df 850

[muted patio]

you'll have at least 8 sata power connectors

[autumn aurora]

These dongles that you connect 2 fans into a single header

[muted patio]

You have 12 sata power connectors lol

Yeah those work but then you need multiple fan profiles in BIOS all matching, hard to control with temperature.

[autumn aurora]

Ohhh

[brittle tinsel]

So the deepcool and the Arctic hubs are about the same, should I match brand to Dan?

Fans?

[muted patio]

Nah

I run corsair fans

Deepcool hub

Only thing that matters is they are all PWM

4 pin

[brittle tinsel]

I know the fans I’m buying are but I don’t know about the Arctic freezer 420mm

[muted patio]

That's the hub tucked up the upper left corner

[wanton cliff]

sexy

[muted patio]

yes, ti's crooked

XD

Velcro

[clever eagle]

is there any difference between the asus rog strix g15 and the asus rog scar 15
(the models with the same specs)

[wanton cliff]

battery?

monitor?

[clever eagle]

300hz 3ms

90wh both

[autumn aurora]

Segxy cable management

[brittle tinsel]

Link to the aio I got picked out
Is this pwm or Whateever you said for the hub control 4 pin or whatever

Check this out on @Newegg: Arctic ACFRE00092A Liquid Freezer II 420 - Multi Compatible All-in-One CPU AIO Water Cooler, Compatible with Intel & AMD, Efficient PWM Controlled Pump, Fan Speed: 200-1700 RPM (Controlled via PWM) - https://www.newegg.com/arctic-acfre00092a-water-cooling/p/1YF-000P-001D0?Item=9SIAG7RD3H2135&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAG7RD3H2135-_-03162021

[muted patio]

Could be better but eh. Good enough for something I never see XD

[muted patio]

yes those are PWM

says right in the description

😉

[autumn aurora]

True Xd im not big on cable management either is something for cleaning convenience

Yeah I use m.2 so took out the SSD and HDD holders

[brittle tinsel]

Ok am I missing something here?
Case
Mobo
Ram
Storage
Aio
Fans
CPU
Fan hub
Psu
I have a gpu already

[autumn aurora]

Wifi or ethernet mobo

[brittle tinsel]

Ethernet

I have Ethernet in my room

[autumn aurora]

Ohhh

And also

[brittle tinsel]

Wait that was for me right?

[autumn aurora]

Windows key

[autumn aurora]

Yes

[brittle tinsel]

I have windows tied to my account already

[autumn aurora]

Ohhh

So yeah you are good to go

If you live in an area with lots of power surge or outages

Get an UPS

And go to #peripherals-and-displays to take smart decisions

I had to learn to love my k95 xt for the price

[brittle tinsel]

Don’t have the money for one yet and I only have outages during hurricanes

[autumn aurora]

Good so be careful in hurricane season

[desert scarab]

Ayo

I got this issue

what I do

[autumn aurora]

Delete driver and restart pc

[muted patio]

Downqload drivers from motherboard website

[autumn aurora]

Or download a driver updated

UPDATER

[autumn aurora]

Or that

[wanton cliff]

I would always just get a separate PCIe card for wifi tbh

[desert scarab]

Alrr

Which one

[muted patio]

Realtek

AND

Intel Lan driver AND

[autumn aurora]

I’m having a bad issue with a tp link wifi adapter , some asistance would be apreciated

[muted patio]

INF driver AND

taht should be it lol

[muted patio]

WHY\

[autumn aurora]

Randomly disconnects

[gusty pasture]

whhaaaaa my wifi is 45 mb/s lmfao

[muted patio]

heh

[gusty pasture]

lol

[muted patio]

That's integrated WiFi and a good modem

AC1200 or 1600 can't remember

[gusty pasture]

WHAt

I DONT EVEN GET THAT ON ETHERNET

[muted patio]

That's not internet speed tho

Just intranet, IE pc to pc

network speed

[gusty pasture]

jeez

fast

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-meme-kid-gif-14031709

[muted patio]

Signal stregnth?

Wifi 300, AC or ?

External antennas?

[autumn aurora]

My router 20mbps download and 5mbps upload

[autumn aurora]

Yes

Pcie

[muted patio]

Oh, you sure it's the wifi card and not the modem?

Sounds like DSL

[autumn aurora]

What

[muted patio]

DSL instead of cable

Uses phone lines

SOmewhat unreliable and prone to issues

[autumn aurora]

The wifi works well with all my devices

[muted patio]

what modem then

[autumn aurora]

Mine is satelite wifi

[muted patio]

Ah

still, might be a modem setting or an adapter setting but I need to know exactly what they are

[autumn aurora]

Let me check the modem

[muted patio]

LKike, model and brands

WiFi card too

[autumn aurora]

Is that helpful

[muted patio]

good enough, lemme dig

Well then

Only manual I can find for the modem involves some app I'm not going to download lol

Make sure both the modem and WiFi card are set to use WPA2 and also Wireless N

[autumn aurora]

Sketchy files ?

[muted patio]

App does no good if I don't have the modem

XD

App connects to it for setup

[autumn aurora]

Let me boot my pc give me a minute

[autumn aurora]

Please give me the app name it might be useful for me

[muted patio]

it's here with the QR code https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/UM/hAP+lite+TC

Did it work or what LOL!

[autumn aurora]

wpa2 is set on the router , how do I check the wireless adapter?

[muted patio]

Well, if it's on the router

and you're connected

You're using it lol

Check wireless N tho

[quasi hemlock]

Could someone tell me how to install windows on my pc, I already downloaded it onto the usb and put into the pc. This is where I am

[autumn aurora]

how? im sorry im very new to dealing with pc's

[desert scarab]

What I do now vintage

[autumn aurora]

install now and choose your boot storage as new

[desert scarab]

Yeah but what do I click there??

@autumn aurora

[muted patio]

Right click wireless symbol bottom right - click Change Adapter options - Right click WiFi adapter choose properties - Click Configure - Advanced Tab - check wireless mode

[desert scarab]

o

[muted patio]

Click Install Now

[quasi hemlock]

Ok

[muted patio]

Right click wireless symbol bottom right - click Change Adapter options - Right click WiFi adapter choose properties - Click Configure - Advanced Tab - check wireless mode

[desert scarab]

@muted patio what I do now

[muted patio]

Full guide with screen pics https://www.itechguides.com/how-to-install-windows-10-step-by-step-with-pictures/

[muted patio]

2G bandwidth?

Antenna diversity?

[autumn aurora]

so what should I put

[muted patio]

What are they?

Yours is different from mine

Check Transmit power also

be sure it's on highest

Mixed mode Protection RTS/CTS enabled if you have it

[autumn aurora]

i disabled windows shut adapter to save energy

also my pc is on performance mode

[muted patio]

That's fine

[autumn aurora]

its working for now

[muted patio]

i suspect it's the modem causing the drops

[autumn aurora]

may be

what modem would you recommend

[muted patio]

IDK what to recommend for satellite

If DSL or cable, that's different but I have no experience with satellite

[autumn aurora]

i understand might as well change that crap wifi

[muted patio]

hang on though

That modem has ethernet ports yeah?

[autumn aurora]

yes

[verbal flame]

if you want to start installing, press install

and if you have a key or not will change the proccess

[autumn aurora]

so should I get like a 60 feet ethernet?

[muted patio]

You could add a WAP to the modem and disable the Modem WiFi and get a better signal. SOmething like this would work well: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-AC1200-Wireless-Access-WAC104-100NAS/dp/B01LFSDZCU/ref=sr_1_5?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Computer+Networking+Wireless+Access+Points&qid=1615940246&s=pc&sr=1-5&ts_id=1194486

[autumn aurora]

its far from my pc (not too far to cause issues)

[desert scarab]

bro that’s installing windows

[muted patio]

isn't that what you're doing???

[desert scarab]

no remember the drivers

[muted patio]

oopsie

that was the other guy XD

[desert scarab]

LMAO

[muted patio]

You downloaded them?

[desert scarab]

Idk how

[muted patio]

Right click them, choose extract

open

run the Setup inside each folder

reboot when done

[autumn aurora]

thx for help @muted patio

[muted patio]

You could run an ethernet to the WiFi access point and make it more central for your devices

instead of running a cable to your PC

[muted patio]

Sorry, this was meant for you. Step by step with pics https://www.itechguides.com/how-to-install-windows-10-step-by-step-with-pictures/

[desert scarab]

I don’t see an extract option for the one I just showed u

For the INF

Extracting is the copying all the files right? @muted patio

[muted patio]

OH for the INF?

save that one for later, do the others

then restart and check device manager again

[desert scarab]

I did

It still shows that

@muted patio

[muted patio]

what board again?

[wary geode]

vintage

its a windows update that helps iut

ive had this issue in countless pcs

[muted patio]

Mmm, i wanna check drivers

Those are chipset drivers missing

[wary geode]

usually with gigabyte boards you need pcie wifi or usb to try

and update

cause it needs intel.net

[desert scarab]

B460m Pro4 @muted patio

[wary geode]

on intel systems this happens

yeah exactly

[desert scarab]

I need internet to do it?

My Ethernet comes tmrow

@wary geode

[wary geode]

yes

but eternet wont work either

[muted patio]

Ah, it's this https://download.asrock.com/Drivers/Intel/Others/ME(v14.5.12.1111_CONS_SW_DCH).zip

[wary geode]

yes that

[muted patio]

Chipset drivers

DL and run it

Intel calls it IME instead of chipset drivers -_-

[desert scarab]

wait so

I download that?

@muted patio

[muted patio]

yes

extract

install

@little osprey you had a question? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ff8XBc

[little osprey]

i was gonna say is it good

then thought this was wrong channel

[muted patio]

Nah, you're too low level to post links yet

IDK where you're getting a 6800XT for $650 tho

Otherwise seems good, let me check the PSU real quick

[little osprey]

its not for now its like in a few months prob

im just super eager to get a pc

[muted patio]

Gotcha

Looks good

[little osprey]

ppl in other server saying its overpriced

so

im a bit worried

but

[muted patio]

I mean, you can trim costs certainly

Fans are spendy

MB also a tad spendy

Everything else seems MSRP

i don't see anything out of line

All fits together well

[little osprey]

ty

about the mobo tho

i just picked it bc good io and not TOO expensive

[muted patio]

Right

Could trim off another $10 on the PSU also but we're talking kinda pennies in the overall cost

For an AIO

Could save a little and go Arctic Freezer II or EK 240mm

those are $120 and cool better

But that's kinda nit picking

$10 here, $10 there, not a huge amount

[little osprey]

ig

does ek one come with rgb fan hub?

thats one reason i go with ll's

[muted patio]

not sure TBH, gotta check

[little osprey]

ik lightning node is like, trustabel

[muted patio]

No hub on the EK

[little osprey]

ok

[muted patio]

Like I said, looks fine, could save a little bit here and there but it's good

[little osprey]

well maybe i can get h100i cappelix tbh, ml's are better than ll's and still look decent

and comes with commander core

but are ml's good? bc im not ENTIRly sure

[muted patio]

I run Ml fans

not RGB just the regulars

They're spendy tho

[little osprey]

no they come with h100i

so maybe i get those

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Q7L3N4W/ref=twister_B08PN55QJV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[desert scarab]

@muted patio

how to extract?

I copied it to my usb from my laptop

Then plugged the usb into my pc build

[muted patio]

doesn't look like it's zipped

open it

[desert scarab]

Do i copy it to the desktop

[muted patio]

run the Setup inside

[desert scarab]

Is it bad that it isn’t zipped

@muted patio

What do I do with the “mup” and “IntelMEFWVer.dll”

[muted patio]

Nothing

Run the Setup

[desert scarab]

ok done

now restart my pc?

[muted patio]

that was quick

restart

[desert scarab]

now what

@muted patio

do i update?

[muted patio]

this gone?

[desert scarab]

only the SM bus controller

the PCI ones still there

[muted patio]

Oh, and you don't have internet right?

so windows isn't updated?

[desert scarab]

nop

i dont think so

i have windows 10 pro

i installed that

[muted patio]

Ick, k, wait until you get internet to update windows

[desert scarab]

but idk ab update

oooo ok

[muted patio]

Windows will need updates too

[desert scarab]

can i use ethernet

?

[muted patio]

yes

[desert scarab]

ok

so i update

the PCI ones?

[little osprey]

#build-pics Any tips for my setup?

[desert scarab]

@muted patio

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio I am doing it rn

How long

[brittle tinsel]

Will a gpu power on if it’s not connected to the mobo but had the pcie power plugged in?

[pliant lake]

doubt it.

[muted patio]

No

[brittle tinsel]

Hmm, I don’t know how I’m gonna test this gpu then.

[pliant lake]

do you not have a computer?

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah, but it doesn’t have enough down time to test this one

[jaunty nacelle]

yo can someone help me put together a pcpp list for $1350 or help me find a good $1460 prebuilt since prebuilts come with an os

usd btw

[brittle tinsel]

If you have ever used a new pc before windows may be linked to your Microsoft account

[muted patio]

Windows updates. All of them

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio it didn’t work

😦

So is it ok if he motherboard or the gpu

[muted patio]

Plug video into mothervoard. If you get a picture, go to bios and swt videonout to pcie gpu.

[wicked frigate]

Ok so this is what ibdid

Record the battery for 10 min

Than plugged it back in

Than tried plugging the vga into the gpu didn’t work

but lugged it into the mobo didn’t work

Nothing showed up

[sonic trout]

Hey vintage my guy 🙂

[muted patio]

Tet different output on video card

[sonic trout]

I was looking for u but u changed ur pic

[muted patio]

Dvi or hdmi

[sonic trout]

[wicked frigate]

Umm I can’t be

My monitor only has vga

😦

[muted patio]

Oh

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[muted patio]

Gpu works in another pc tho so we know it works

Might be your motherboard

[wicked frigate]

I didn’t try that

So my cousin shipped it here

To my house

[muted patio]

You said u did?

[wicked frigate]

He said it worked

[muted patio]

Ahhhhh lol

[wicked frigate]

I lights up

That’s what I’m meant

[muted patio]

Uh

[wicked frigate]

Should I try in the black one

[muted patio]

That looksnlike a serial cable?

Csn try black one.

[wicked frigate]

Which one

Would it work in black??

Can’t rn I am about to sleep

But

So is it mobo or gpu u have a clue???

Or should I contact msi

@muted patio

@muted patio just dm me if u know I gtg cya thx for the help

[muted patio]

Dinner time lol. Bbiab

[wicked frigate]

Ok just dm me when u can @muted patio

Should I try to put it on another pc that’s older

????

Dm let me know

[little osprey]

Pc that can play AAA games at around 80fps on high settings for around 1200$? Asking for a friend

[midnight girder]

wealthy country gamers: No9ooo0000 80fps its not enough

latin American gamers: FINALLY 25fps

[still roost]

SnowyPanda_ (Fae/Faer)#9629 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Forgot abt that

But yes facts

[desert gulch]

a 10400f and 3060ti would do that easy

[little osprey]

What about a ryzen cpu?

[jagged ember]

More upgradability I guess

But also you pay more for that ability

[desert gulch]

mhmm

if you really were worried about upgradability you could do z490 or 590

just keep in mind even a b550 or x570 will only work up to ryzen 5k stuff, as ryzen 6k will be a whole new socket

am5

[rich helm]

10400f with 560 is probably the way to go unless you want to do overclockable cpu in the future

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[rich helm]

Here’s a list I made https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLKgxc

Any thoughts @desert gulch ?

[muted patio]

3600 ram overkill for Intel, if 3200 is cheaper go for it

[rich helm]

Ok 👍

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmKgxc revised

[muted patio]

👍

I'd build it

Oh

one more thing

can save some money on the PSU if you want

https://smile.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=segotep+650W&qid=1615952983&sr=8-3

[desert gulch]

yeah looks good with the changes vintage suggested

[scenic turret]

The realism in this statement

[midnight girder]

its true ngl i have a thinkpad A475 and it barely makes it to 30 fps on warthunder in min settings

[scenic turret]

Yep I understand, I have some friends and families just buying PC parts when they travel to the US and back

[midnight girder]

well at least you can find cheaper gxt 1080 in mercado libre

[distant gull]

Is there any alternatives for the 3060ti that are more available?

[rich helm]

No

[scenic turret]

Nope

Welcome to GPU Market 2021

Just keep checking in stores and backordering

[midnight girder]

imposible

[scenic turret]

Some youtube channels/servers might be accurate in telling stock

[midnight girder]

least i can give is 1080 at 9k mxn

[distant gull]

Should I build my PC without it then for now until I can find it in stock

[rich helm]

Ehh I would get gpu first

[scenic turret]

^

[rich helm]

Personally

[scenic turret]

No one really likes Intel 630 graphics

[rich helm]

If you have something that works already just stick with that until you can get the whole deal

[midnight girder]

intel be like

[rich helm]

Me who had integrated for almost my entire life 😦

[scenic turret]

Oop-

[midnight girder]

eehh APU gang here

[rich helm]

Can run Roblox, Minecraft, and kinda csgo and that was fine with me when I was a 10 year old

[midnight girder]

most intensive game that holded in a amd pro 12 is fallout 4

[rich helm]

But now I actually wanted to play games at higher than 20 FPS

So I built a pc

[scenic turret]

I had PC/laptops with dedicated graphics by either AMD Radeon discrete graphics or Nvidia MX150 level graphics

[rich helm]

Now I just need a new monitor to finish it

[midnight girder]

now i think about it what happens if you combine an APU with a GPU

like a good APU but a crappy GPU

[scenic turret]

Basically Vega 3

[distant gull]

Should I go for the 3060ti founders edition or just the generic version, or whichever I can get?

[desert gulch]

3060ti fe is fine

best value out there rn

[fleet beacon]

i dont know a lot about pc's but i think i found some parts that are a balance between cost efficient and decent

[desert gulch]

you got a link to the list?

[fleet beacon]

i have them as seperate links. i dont have them in a list unfortunatly

[desert gulch]

hmm id put them in pcpartpicker.com if i were you

[fleet beacon]

how do i insert them

i tried searching for them but no results

[ancient wraith]

hey

[fleet beacon]

hey

[ancient wraith]

something is wrong with my monitor

like in games there is colorful ghosting

[desert scarab]

Yooo

My back fan won’t spin just started today

It was working before

[ancient wraith]

fart on it

[fierce hull]

https://tenor.com/view/xeon-llok-hair-selfie-gif-17755262

[fierce hull]

rate this build

[lyric thistle]

Computer out of computer

[pale dust]

Lmfao I'm upgrading from an i5 4200m to a 5600x and 3070

From 30 fps in valorant to 300

[desert scarab]

damn mad funny dawg

[fierce hull]

intel i5 10600k = ryzen 5 5600x ?

[desert scarab]

Yeah it’s a pretty good build

I think I might’ve went with a diff mobo

[fierce hull]

who u said to

[desert scarab]

u

[fierce hull]

thx

intel i5 10600k = ryzen 5 5600x ?

[desert scarab]

10400F>

So no

The intell better

[fierce hull]

bro

[desert scarab]

Intel 10400F>5600x

[fierce hull]

5600x easily beats 5600x

[desert scarab]

what

[fierce hull]

maybe you mean 3600xt

[desert scarab]

5600x beats 5600x

🤣

[fierce hull]

my bad

5600x beats 10400

[desert scarab]

ur right my bad I confused 3600 w 5600

[fierce hull]

but

[desert scarab]

10600K is better tho than 5600

[fierce hull]

in some of tha games 10400 beats 5600x

and its 125 $cheaper

[desert scarab]

ik

[fierce hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljccxCltaw

my mistake 150 $ cheaper

80 % of tha games tested 10400f was close to 5 5600x

so 10400f is tha best midrange budget cpu for gaming

[little osprey]

no it doesn't

"some"

[fierce hull]

see for yourself

[little osprey]

?????

you can't compare them lmao

Try to pair a 10400f with a 3080

see what happens

[fierce hull]

its with the rtx 3080

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljccxCltaw

80 % of tha games tested 10400f was close to 5 5600x by 10-5 fps

[little osprey]

yikes....

[jagged ember]

Dude

It's better in one singular game

On one singular setting

[fierce hull]

but its close in 5-10 fps in 80% of tha games

[jagged ember]

Literally every other game at all settings has the 5600x beating it

[fierce hull]

and its 150 $ cheaper

[little osprey]

???

10400f is the definition of a bottleneck on a 3080

"80% of games"

like maybe 50

holy hell this thing is biased

3800mhz ram ran with a 10400f

......

yikes

[fierce hull]

LOL

[little osprey]

?

[jagged ember]

You also really won't be getting an amd chip if all you're doing is gaming

[fierce hull]

lets check it out with the rtx 2060 s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5xqK4ZRKk

only 4 % +this is nothin

so i would really rather to buy 10400f

[vapid bay]

better if u compare 10400 to 3600

and 10600 to 5600x

[little osprey]

IMAGINE USING UB AS A TEST

LMAO

[jagged ember]

User benchmark...

Sorry that video is automatically invalid cause of UB

[little osprey]

Yet again

a bad comparison

3200c16 10400f vs a 3200c16 5600x

3600+ is where 5600x shines

[jagged ember]

3800 too much for 5600x I think

But same for 10400

[little osprey]

na

3800 is ideal for 5600x

you can easily get that on most 3600 kits

[fierce hull]

3200 mhz is best for 10400

[little osprey]

That benchmark is only benching old games that r optimized for CPUs like 10400

[little osprey]

its not for the 5600x

its a bad comparison

[fierce hull]

same

buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

[little osprey]

5600x can overclock too

10400f cannot

[jagged ember]

Also true

[little osprey]

and don't go "oh i don't want to overclock"

[fierce hull]

3800mhz is good for ryzen 7 5800x and i 7 10700/k

[little osprey]

its 2 button clicks

also you will need a gpu for F variants.

[little osprey]

No

just 5000 series in general

[little osprey]

u do for amd too

smh

10700k will run just fine on 3200c14/3600c16.....

[little osprey]

Lol. if you can reach the fclk. I know zen2 has a hard time hitting 1900 fclk

Unless you want desync.

[robust lake]

Im using 3600 cl 18 on 10700k its working fine

[fierce hull]

well ryzen 7 5800x easily beats i7 10700 no dout

[little osprey]

3600c18 or 3600c16 iirc.

[little osprey]

doesn't mean you should

Usually 3600c16.

3600c18 is awful lol.

Should of bought even 3200c16

meh

its intel

Well for ryzen its awful.

Intel, depending on board, it is capped

3600c16 is too close in price to buy 3600c18

[fierce hull]

so yea 3600 mhz is perfect for i7 10700

[little osprey]

?????

so is 3200

What are you on.

[robust lake]

They dont sell cl 16 3600 in my country

[little osprey]

I don't remembering sharing my cocaine with you.

[little osprey]

ew

[fierce hull]

well h 470 for i5 10400 is good and z 490 good for i7 and higher

[little osprey]

kek. c18. Ive almost have enough to swap out my c18 for c16 if needed.

?????

But since it clocks at 3733c18 it beats 3200c16

b560 for 10400

not h470

[little osprey]

Lol

My brain hurts

I don't know much about intel, but that sure as hell doesn't sound right lol

ofir try overclocking your ram

unless its a horrible bin i swear you can get c16

After the bios update it oofed my ram.

[robust lake]

ok

[little osprey]

I need to redo fclk

ahhhhhhhh

[fierce hull]

b560 or b460

[little osprey]

b560

[fierce hull]

like thet both good mb

they*

[little osprey]

This is right?

b560

b560

b460 doesn't let you do 2666mhz+ ram

Ah.

Pretty much wish i had flashback.

Could downgrade bios. Ive been trying right now to setup asus crash free.

[still roost]

𝕯𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖔 𝕺𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖉#6297 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

𝕯𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖔 𝕺𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖉#6297 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

𝕯𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖔 𝕺𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖉#6297 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vapid bay]

lmao

[fierce hull]

soo

h410

[vapid bay]

why tho

u yeeted yourself already

evading filter 👀

[fierce hull]

my pc is with h270 wow

so old

i mean like 3-4 years

wanna upgrade to b 460 or z 490

[vapid bay]

k

tbh just get b560

and 11400f if u want budget 6 cores

then pair it with like, 1050ti or whichever card there is that's not scalped

[tough kettle]

it does

i3/i5 is locked to 2666mhz

i7/i9 is 2933mhz

@little osprey that is correct

[little osprey]

What?

Dont rely on thay

Thhat

[tough kettle]

rely on what?

[little osprey]

That chart

[tough kettle]

it is correct though

b460 can do 2933mhz with i7/i9's

so can h410/h470

[stoic island]

Yes

but get B560 so you don't have that issue

[blazing aurora]

is there a ray tracing alternative on the 6xxx series of radeon cards?

i'm split between getting the 3060ti or 6700xt, so i wanna know what i'm missing out on (if anything)

[stoic island]

it's the dx12 rtx

kinda wack

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio any thing so far

?!

[little osprey]

Please

tell me when

[fossil cedar]

Rx 6000 series have ray tracing but rtx is better

[little osprey]

you are buying a 260$+ cpu with a below spec motherboard that is same price as a better one

[warm swift]

@stoic island can i ask you a question

which is better, 870 QVO or 860 EVO

[stoic island]

I'd go evo for tlc

[warm swift]

whats that?

[stoic island]

triple layer cell

3 bits per cell

instead of qlc

which is 4 bits per cell

tlc offers better read/write natively on flash

and better reliability

[warm swift]

so the QVO is bad?/

[worn wave]

It's not bad

but the EVO is better

[warm swift]

so the thing is when i went to buy the parts and returned home i found out he gave be a 2TB QVO, and i just called him rn and he said that he doesnt have any EVO's so is that bad?

[warm swift]

i feel sad 😦

[stoic island]

eh

it's just worse, not bad

[warm swift]

yeah but will it still be fast in games and other stuff? or will it feel like a harddrive

[stoic island]

tlc vs qlc is completely on a ssd vs ssd level debate

both will destroy a hard drive

[worn wave]

There is not a difference really in SSD vs SSD when it comes to loading games.

Even with a 905P it's like a 2-4 second difference.

You won't see the difference in loading games

[warm swift]

ok then, what about a Crucial MX500 vs QVO?

which is better

[worn wave]

QVO most likely

[warm swift]

alright then

hopefully one day in egypt they would release a 2tb NVMe and i would buy it and put it in my pc

[worn wave]

the 870 QVO has faster random writes which is what you want

[warm swift]

yeah

[agile folio]

can someone make me a build for $600
looking to game on it give or take like $50 on budget

[wicked frigate]

Hey hours I need help

What do I enter to press to go I. The bios

[balmy patio]

delete

[wicked frigate]

Oh

But it also says this

Wait

This

Now what

Please help I

Added a new SATA SSD

Why is it starting

This happened after I removed the battery

[empty chasm]

Is a RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 7 3700x reasonable for a $1400 build?

[muted patio]

Yes

Recommend 5600x tho

Better single core perf for gaming and other things

[empty chasm]

the ryzen 9?

[muted patio]

Ryzen 5 5600x

[empty chasm]

oh ok

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio help

[fossil cedar]

An xbox

[desert gulch]

Yeah otherwise it's an igpu build

Like a 10100 I gpu build

[fossil cedar]

Yep 800 is kinda the baseline

[desert gulch]

Rn it is

[fossil cedar]

And gl with graphics cards lol

[desert gulch]

To get a dgpu build it is at least

[fossil cedar]

Even before crisis 80p was kinda baseline

[desert gulch]

I wouldn't say that

[wicked frigate]

@desert gulch help me

[desert gulch]

You could get like an rx 580 and 10100

Or 3100

[wicked frigate]

How do I fix this

[desert gulch]

I don't know

[wicked frigate]

@desert gulch

Ok

[desert gulch]

Im not that good with software stuff

[wicked frigate]

I mean it won’t let me do anything

[desert gulch]

I'm a lot better with psyichal hardware

[fossil cedar]

That would round up to about 800 tho if all new parts

[wicked frigate]

It says pc didn’t start correctly

[desert gulch]

Didn't use to

When market was decent

[fossil cedar]

Try advanced options

[fossil cedar]

That's what i meant

[desert gulch]

I had a friend build a pc for 600 with a 580 and 3100

[violet harness]

rtx 2060 withi3 10100??

[desert gulch]

Huh?

[violet harness]

is it a food combo

good*

[desert gulch]

Yeah ig

Depends on prices rn

[wicked frigate]

@fossil cedar I did

But after I took o it the battery this all happened

And I put in a SATA SSD

[wanton cliff]

check boot order

worst case scenario, its looking at the drive without an OS

[wicked frigate]

Want me try rn

Or later

[wanton cliff]

whenever dude

your computer

not mine

[wicked frigate]

Ok I’ll try in a bot and @ u ok???

[wanton cliff]

please dont ping me

[fossil cedar]

What screen shows after you hit advanced options

[wanton cliff]

I dont want my inbox to be sullied by the presence of a ping from you

[fossil cedar]

Oof scrap?

[wicked frigate]

K I’ll show one sec give me few min

This

@fossil cedar

[little osprey]

can you boot into windows

[wicked frigate]

How

This is what pops up

[little osprey]

press continue

[wicked frigate]

I have windows i here

lol

Ok

I meant

I did

wait

Still loading

[fossil cedar]

Try Troubleshoot

[wicked frigate]

Hi ace a sec

Ok wait

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[wicked frigate]

It doesn’t work

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/twomad-sonalban-brokey-swag-linus-gif-18830794

[wicked frigate]

That’s happening

[little osprey]

is it looping

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/twomad-sonalban-brokey-swag-linus-gif-18830794

it brokey

reininstall

[little osprey]

reinstall

its brokey

[wicked frigate]

How

[little osprey]

live usb

[wicked frigate]

I’ll just get 10 then

Wait but how I install it

This option popes up

[little osprey]

u need anotehr pc

[wanton cliff]

why does he need to reinstall

[little osprey]

it boot looping

[wanton cliff]

oof

[wicked frigate]

So I can’t choose a different option

[wanton cliff]

there are ways to fix that without a reinstall

[wicked frigate]

How

I need Len

I was going to use this pc to download windows 10 on a usb

Than this happened

So what do I have to do from here

[wanton cliff]

try booting into safe mode real quick

[wicked frigate]

How??

@wanton cliff

How??

[little osprey]

hold shift on boot

[wicked frigate]

Which boot

[little osprey]

windwos

[wicked frigate]

So shift and what

Windows key

[wanton cliff]

[wicked frigate]

Lol

I am new I am sorry

[desert gulch]

Also if she tells you not to ping her, may be a good idea not to

[wicked frigate]

Not good with tech

Ohh ok

Which one is boot option

This is what pops up when I pick troubleshoot

[wanton cliff]

advanced

[wicked frigate]

That

[wanton cliff]

startup settings

[wicked frigate]

That

[wanton cliff]

press enter

[azure tinsel]

Hi there I was wounded if some can tell me what would be better for streaming, video recording and editing, gaming and can handle VR I’m new to computers so I was seeing if AMD or intel was better

[wicked frigate]

K I did I

I did

[wanton cliff]

whats your total budget? Most of the stuff you mentioned is going to rely on a good video card, not necessarily a good CPU

[wanton cliff]

press 5

[wicked frigate]

I I did

[azure tinsel]

I’m looking at a budget from 500-1000

[wicked frigate]

After what do I do

This pops up

Am I all set

[fossil cedar]

Depends on budget

[fossil cedar]

1000 isn't that much for what you're expecting

[azure tinsel]

Ok I mean I can save that’s no problem do you have any recommendations for what I’m look for cause I’m very new to computer building 😅

[fossil cedar]

Something along the lines of a i5 10400f and rtx 3060 probs

[azure tinsel]

Ok

[wanton cliff]

considering a 3060Ti has an amazing NVENC encoder and you can get a 10400f for that price, I'd say its pretty good

[fossil cedar]

But i mean idk if you could fit that i your budget

[wanton cliff]

might need a bit more than 16 gigs of DRAM tho

for VR

[fossil cedar]

Well yeah but 3060 tis are so rare especially for 400 atm

[wanton cliff]

mmmmmnot really

[desert gulch]

Way better value tho

[wanton cliff]

might take you a second but they arent particularly 'rare'

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik

[desert gulch]

3060 is like 2060s territory

[fossil cedar]

I've been waiting since they came out

[wanton cliff]

you just arent lucky

[fossil cedar]

There's hardly any tho, at least in eu 3060 tis are going for the equivalent of 700$

[azure tinsel]

I knew this might start a argument but what difference bettween AMD and intel

[fossil cedar]

Nothing really they both make cpus, intel i5 10400f is better value then amds i5 competitor, but amd is winning at the high end atm

[wanton cliff]

not much

both are CPUs

some are just better than others, and some are better value

[azure tinsel]

Ok cool like is one fast or something

[wanton cliff]

both are

[fossil cedar]

They trade blows

[wanton cliff]

but AMD and Intel both make a lot of CPUs

not just one or two different types

[azure tinsel]

Ok

[wicked frigate]

Quick question why isn’t it letting me install windows 10 on a usb do I have to have windows 10 on the counter first than do it

[fossil cedar]

Yep cpus from 100$ to 850 and that's just the consumer cpus

[fossil cedar]

You have to have a version of Windows

[wicked frigate]

Not on the pc

[fossil cedar]

Is your other pc a mac/linux

[wanton cliff]

on AMD's side right now is the 5600x, 5800x, 5900x, 5950x, and on Intel's side right now is the 10400/f/k, 10500/f/k, 10600/f/k, 10700/f/k, 10800/f/k, 10850/f/k, and 10900/f/k

[wicked frigate]

Do I have to have windows on here

O put it in the usb

[fossil cedar]

F means no integrated graphics and k means it can overclock btw

[wanton cliff]

put it on the USB

[wicked frigate]

Cause this is windows 8.1

Pc

It won’t let me

[wanton cliff]

I know

[wicked frigate]

That is what comes up

[wanton cliff]

ive been here for a hot second

i know what suffixes on CPUs mean

[fossil cedar]

I was explaining for the guy that asked

[fossil cedar]

I'm aware lol

[wanton cliff]

you pinged me lol

so

[fossil cedar]

Sorry thought i turned off ping

[azure tinsel]

Ok after see what you guys are say I might be aiming to high for a computer build so how about a streaming and gaming computer

[wicked frigate]

So do I get windows 10 first than do it on the usb or do the usb thing first

[fossil cedar]

An i5 10400f still and a rtx 3060 ti if you can find one for around 400

[wanton cliff]

which isnt particularly difficult

[azure tinsel]

Ok so what that in layman’s terms sorry

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh lets try build you a pc part picker list so you can remember hold on, you are in the us right?

[azure tinsel]

Yup

[wanton cliff]

tfw B560 Pro4 being scalped

[fossil cedar]

Oof really ?

[wanton cliff]

$270 according to PCPP

going with the mATX one as a placeholder

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z6Txmk

for a good streaming/VR PC, thats the best I can do

[balmy patio]

tbh i can prolly make it cheaper

[wanton cliff]

try

[muted patio]

segotep PSU $15 cheaper

[wanton cliff]

oooh

one sec

I keep forgetting about segotep

[viral ore]

segotep sound spooky

but internals are not

in a few of em at least

[muted patio]

Good PSU

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2K2FT/segotep-gp-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

this one?

[muted patio]

no

[wanton cliff]

only one that shows up when I type segotep

[muted patio]

manually add this one

https://smile.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=segotep+650w&qid=1616001092&sr=8-3

use custom part at the bottom and put in URL

[fossil cedar]

Think their limit was 1000 mb 16gb instead

[wanton cliff]

VR alone can suck up more than 16 gigs of RAM

combine that with streaming

[fossil cedar]

True yeag

[balmy patio]

made it cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cJsrCz, it looks worse aesthetically tbh so if you can, go with sara's list and add in the segotep psu and cheaper ram that's rated for the same speeds

metallic gear also has a relatively cheap lineup that look alr

[muted patio]

They are just cheap Phanteks cases

😉

[wanton cliff]

tfw $20 cheaper

lmao

closer to $1000 tho

o hey dread

[little osprey]

Oof. Bios screwed with my ram after update

[wanton cliff]

unluck

[little osprey]

And now xmp doesnt even boot

Only in safe mode

[wanton cliff]

wtf?

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

sure it isnt just a visual glitch in task manager or whatever?

[little osprey]

Cant even run 1800 fclk

Without going, “system instability, posted in safe mode”

Why didnt i get the tuf pro

Atleast you can revert bios with flashback

[muted patio]

Nothing wrong with 3602. WOrking great for me and more stability than 3405

[little osprey]

Because the main thing is, updated from 3202

I used to atleast be able to run 3600

Now xmp goes oof

And cant even run ram at stock speed

[violet harness]

2060 hashrate???

[little osprey]

And there is just no way to revert bios.

[muted patio]

XMP isn't stock speed.

[little osprey]

Ive tried reflashing

[muted patio]

Shouldn't affect OS boot

[wanton cliff]

low

[fossil cedar]

@azure tinsel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2BQvF8 and https://smile.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=segotep+650w&qid=1616001092&sr=8-3 i couldn't find the add by link button on mobile, if you don't mind starting with 500gb storage instead of 1tb

[little osprey]

Ram”s default speed

[fossil cedar]

Nicehash calc should give you a rough estimate of how much you can make with it anyway if you want ti check

[little osprey]

Or just the speed ram is rated for at xmp

Honestly, dont know how to revert.

[muted patio]

XMP is OC. Stock speed is 2133

[little osprey]

Tried ezflash.

I was only able to go back to 3405

Tried rewriting with afudos

I guess the only easy way is with flashblack

Back*

[muted patio]

afudos wat

[little osprey]

Its a bios rewriter

[muted patio]

I know what it is

don't use it

[violet harness]

I'd make 3.88$ cad day, over 1000 per year

[muted patio]

reflash 3602

[little osprey]

At this point, im just debating if flashback is the only possible way.

[wanton cliff]

1000 per year until Eth fails again

[little osprey]

I reflashed last night 3602

Fclk still oofed

[violet harness]

still free money, and I don't need to pay for elec bill

[wanton cliff]

ok then

[little osprey]

Is there just no easy way to revert bios.

[fossil cedar]

3.88 cents/day wtf is your electric bill?

[little osprey]

Without the fact of flashback. After 3405 it seems the system no longer can revert bios past that

[violet harness]

meant 3.88 dollars

[fossil cedar]

Ahhh

[violet harness]

lol

[little osprey]

The only thing besides flashback i can think of is the original cd disk

Either that, or the board could never even run 1800 in the first place

[wanton cliff]

what board, CPU?

[little osprey]

X570 tuf plus wifi and 3700x

Old board was able to run 1733 fclk fine

[wanton cliff]

bruh what

[little osprey]

Wait

[wanton cliff]

you think that board cant run 1800 fclk?