building-and-recc-chat

[muted patio]

Plug em both in and tell me what happens

Please

Cuz I already knows

[sharp tundra]

Mo power

[muted patio]

Incorrect

[sharp tundra]

[muted patio]

No boot

[sharp tundra]

You telling me, a power cable, doesn't give power?

[muted patio]

I'm telling you

With both in on quite a few boards, it won't boot

[sharp tundra]

Then why tf would they have it?

Seems contrary

[scenic quiver]

it's optional? Like using a turn signal in a car.

[muted patio]

IDK, why do they give you a Clear CMOS header and no jumper for it

Why do they give you BIOS beep codes in the manual and no speaker

XD

If I had a 5900x or 5950x I'd try plugging it in again

Honestly the 3700x doesn't need it

~120W full chooch

[sharp tundra]

Use the 4pin instead of the 8 pin, I wanna see what happens😁

[muted patio]

Nah

I'm good

[scenic quiver]

so the psu i picked out seems good? No need for a cheaper one perhaps?

[muted patio]

If 750W

[sharp tundra]

Segotep maybe?

[muted patio]

Phanteks AMP

[sharp tundra]

Nvm

[muted patio]

750W

$109, TIer A

What's it powering though?

[scenic quiver]

estimated wattage before gpu is 174, so im not stressed over a hiogh-wattage psu

[muted patio]

3070 or 3080?

[sharp tundra]

2060s

[stoic island]

could be d.f. time for 3080

[muted patio]

oh

[sharp tundra]

And a 5600x

[muted patio]

If 2060s

[stoic island]

amp 750w

[muted patio]

Just get a Segotep

https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8

$73

[scenic quiver]

right on. looks solid.

[formal cosmos]

hello

[sharp tundra]

Ha, I knew my suggestion would be good

[muted patio]

That'll run a 3060 or 3070 also

[scenic quiver]

good to know in 8 years when i can get my hands on a 3000 series gpu.

[sharp tundra]

Hallo, Wie geht es du?

[muted patio]

Sooner than that lol. 2060s still just fine for 1080/1440

[formal cosmos]

all of a sudden my cpu clock just went down to 2199mhz

it used to stay at a constant 4200mhz

[muted patio]

No load

Should go down

[scenic quiver]

yeah im content @ 1080.

[muted patio]

Or low load, maybe Windows update or driver update

[muted patio]

2060S just fine for that

[sharp tundra]

1660s 4kultra god

[formal cosmos]

i put this silent mode thing, when i turn it on my pc temps lower by a ton but the boost clock thing also lowers

[muted patio]

Well yeah, gonna run lower clocks with that on

and lower voltage too

[sharp tundra]

That's how silent mode works

[formal cosmos]

hmm

is lower boost clock good?

[muted patio]

AMD says to use Balanced Power Plan

[sharp tundra]

Depends

[muted patio]

Lower boost clock is missed performance

[formal cosmos]

ohh

[muted patio]

SO your choice

You probably won't notice it

[sharp tundra]

If you have no need to use all the cpu, why should you

[formal cosmos]

what would you do

[muted patio]

Leave it on balanced

SO it uses less when it doesn't need it and more when it does

[formal cosmos]

okay

thanks

sorry... i’m still kinda new to pc’s

[muted patio]

all good

[scenic quiver]

I'm sure others have done what i'm about to do. But i'd like to hear from anyone that has done this bios update before without a cpu being installed. I'm treading in uncharted waters heh/

[muted patio]

Only stupid question is the one you don't ask

[sharp tundra]

Tell that to my parents, lol they always thought I had stupid questions

[muted patio]

Put it on a flash drive. p.ug in ATX and CPu power. Put flash drive in slot. push button . wait. WHen light goes out, remove flash drive. Install CPU and ram and boot

[scenic quiver]

good 'nuff for me. thanks vintage!

[hollow grail]

all my questions stupid

[wanton cliff]

Ask a question

[lyric thistle]

Nice

[sharp tundra]

So, b550 boards without a bios flash are the only ones that need a 3k cpu right?

[scenic quiver]

i'm told *some.

[hollow grail]

does

[wanton cliff]

What an idiotic question

[scenic quiver]

i checked on MSI website, in particular the video they include for updating bios. but what the dont mention is if the CPU is installed or not. something about flashback?

[brittle tinsel]

What case is this?

[muted patio]

Looks ike a Lian Li

011

[brittle tinsel]

I’m 99% sure you do flashback without a cpu installed

[muted patio]

You can do it with or without

[hollow grail]

tru

[sharp tundra]

Damn allergies, I just sneezed all over my keyboard😑

[scenic quiver]

thats what im getting at. therein lies my hesitance with going ahead and purchasing my upgrades. I wouldnt be so nervous if i have a previous generation cpu to do the bios update.

[brittle tinsel]

No way? My best friend has one and it was nothing like this at all, full size atx razer edition although

[muted patio]

011XL

[brittle tinsel]

What board and cpu?

[brittle tinsel]

Oh, his is the 011 dynamic

[scenic quiver]

msi mpg b550 gaming plus and a ryzen 5 5600x. @brittle tinsel

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know that board specifically and I’m on mobile so hard to check, but a majority of msi has flashback capability

Im going with a msi mag b550 tomahawk and r9 5900x and they work

[sharp tundra]

His board has flashback

[brittle tinsel]

Without needing a old gen clue

Cpu

[muted patio]

yes it has flashback

[muted patio]

yes it has flashback

Flash BIOS Button with Optmized ClearCMOS Function: Simply use a USB key to flash any BIOS within seconds. Restore the BIOS to the default settings without any additional actions.

[scenic quiver]

oh thats nicesu

[brittle tinsel]

Wait how am I gonna put the bios on a usb? My PCs psu fried everything. When it surged and blew the wire up

Would a library let me download onto usb?

[sharp tundra]

Use a friend's pc?

[muted patio]

Yes, work computer, laptop, etc

Library might not actually

Some of them are pretty strict

[brittle tinsel]

My work pc is also the one that blew up

[scenic quiver]

gigabyte psu perhaps?

[sharp tundra]

A samsung perhaps with a adapter for type c to type a

[muted patio]

No one else you know has a PC you could use for 2 minutes?

[brittle tinsel]

It was a personal/work hybrid lol

I mean not without spending gas money

[sharp tundra]

Walk?

[brittle tinsel]

The library is closer than my friend, I’m in fl he is in Texas, my other 2 friends are Australia

[muted patio]

What's $10 in gas compared to your 5900x???

[sharp tundra]

No gas money spent there

[brittle tinsel]

$10 gas? I don’t have many friends, 3 is all

Holy poo

Lmfao

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, you have only 3 friends?

[sullen spoke]

rude

3 friends is good amount

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah the one in tx and 2 is Australia

[muted patio]

Keep small circle

[sharp tundra]

Out of the 8 billion people in this world, there is only 3 that would let you use their pc

[muted patio]

Less issues

XD

[sullen spoke]

only need a couple of good friends 🙂

[worn wave]

sometimes

[muted patio]

Anyway, I'm sure there's a way to get the BIOS file onto a flash drive you need

Try the library

[worn wave]

Local PC repair shop

[muted patio]

beat me to it lol

[brittle tinsel]

Didn’t thing of that one

Wtf is wrong with me

[sharp tundra]

Look, I'll be honest, I have few true friends aswell, but I could call up so many others to let me borrow a computer for 5 minutes

[worn wave]

Literally contact the IT Director at a local high school

[sharp tundra]

That's all I'm saying

[worn wave]

they can be lots of help

[scenic quiver]

for an obligatory fee, one could download said bios onto a flashdrive and mail it to you. just thinking out loud.

[sharp tundra]

That's gas money tho he has to spend

[brittle tinsel]

Every other” friend” I had either beat me to a pulp in a public bathroom or stole money and my accounts

[muted patio]

that sucks

😦

[sharp tundra]

Well damn

[brittle tinsel]

3 true friends is all and I don’t journey for more

[muted patio]

But yeah

Try a local PC shop or library or something

[sharp tundra]

Move out of Florida?

Just a suggestion

[brittle tinsel]

I grew up here

[muted patio]

TBH my circle is super small as well

So you ain't the only one

[sharp tundra]

Florida sucks tho

[muted patio]

Only part about Florida that sucks is the humidity

[brittle tinsel]

I’ll try the library, honestly the old people up their wouldn’t even know I installed it on to a usb

[sharp tundra]

And the people

[brittle tinsel]

Preach it

[brittle tinsel]

Their bad but not like the humidity

[sharp tundra]

"Florida man"

[muted patio]

have family down in Tampa

[brittle tinsel]

Ah

[muted patio]

nice to visit, couldn't live there because fo the humidity

[brittle tinsel]

That’s a bad area, I used to live down there

[muted patio]

Love the weather and the scenery

Well, I also go to jacksonville

Green Cove SPrings

have some work related stuff there

[sharp tundra]

Georgia is worse, in the winter, you walk outside and start "sweating" from literally starting your car

I just wanna move back to Oregon already, most beautiful state, amd most beautiful girls

Lol

[muted patio]

O.o

I live in the PNW

indeed beautiful

Very green

and wet

[sharp tundra]

wet is very true

[muted patio]

it's the Pacific NorthWet

TBH

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know, Virginia women aren’t to bad, French Canadian women are fine too

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, last time I talked to a French Canadian, I couldn't understand a word they were saying

And they were speaking "english"

[brittle tinsel]

I can’t understand anyone with strong accent either

It some times makes me feel like I’m being rude

[wanton cliff]

Ok so rq

[brittle tinsel]

But I just can’t understand accent

[wanton cliff]

I’m in BIOS right now with a new AIO installed

[sharp tundra]

I just laugh when they laugh, and say yes

Lol

What's worse about it tho, is they understand you, so you can't really tell them anything cause when they start talking back, ur just like "?"

[wanton cliff]

Pump is working, but it says CHA_FAN1 isn’t on (I might just not have it plugged in) CHA2 and 3 are both plugged in and working, AIO pump is working at 2626 RPM, PCH fan (what is that?) is 2307 RPM and I’m around 37c, both climbing and going down a bit steadily. Fan DRGB isn’t on but the block is. Do I have anything I need to worry about?

[muted patio]

PCH is chipset fan

[wanton cliff]

Ok

[muted patio]

Set pump to 100% and forget about it

[wanton cliff]

BIOS says CPU fans are at 100%

[sharp tundra]

But more wear

[wanton cliff]

DRGB isn’t on

[sharp tundra]

AIO are prone to pump failure

[muted patio]

Not really

[wanton cliff]

What?

[muted patio]

not anymore

[wanton cliff]

I’ve never heard of that lol

Newegg twitch channel is live

[muted patio]

IDK how you have your fans set up or where they're plugged

but I'd set a nice curve to them with the pump at 100%

[wanton cliff]

3 Front intake with 2 exhaust

Vardar fans I paid so much for have no RGB but are def on

37c stable in BIOS

[sharp tundra]

Yeah, if you ever need to be sure, just stick your finger in them

[wanton cliff]

Kek

Should I put PBO on Max?

Why does it always capitalize Max

Stupid phone

[sharp tundra]

My phone never auto corrects "and" from "amd" anymore

Cause I use both probably just as much

It just doesn't know which one I want to actually use

[wanton cliff]

Where is the PBO setting

[brittle tinsel]

My brothers pc is in a boot loop again @muted patio

[wanton cliff]

Always pinging vintage

[brittle tinsel]

When it powers on the screen goes black

[sharp tundra]

Just tell it to stop

[brittle tinsel]

I’m stuck in this screen and can’t move mouse or use arrows

[sharp tundra]

"Have you tried turning it on and back off again?"

[brittle tinsel]

That’s what got me here

[sharp tundra]

Lol

I honestly couldn't tell ya, I'm not IT

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah vintage is good with this stuff but he isn’t on right now 😦

Screw it I’ll just reboot it

Would something blocking the exhaust cause it to overheat and shutdown?

[sharp tundra]

Uh

[scenic quiver]

yes.

[sharp tundra]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

Ok I’m on the home page now and it didn’t go black screen

[scenic quiver]

heat is killer of electronics.

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah

Especially went that heat blows up your psu (personally experience)

[sharp tundra]

At least it wasn't in an H1

Exploding PSUs and cable fires

Would be the dream team

[brittle tinsel]

Damn unblocking exhaust fan dropped temps by almost 20*C

[sharp tundra]

Hmm... almost like PCs need to BREATH

[wanton cliff]

BIOS won’t let me boot, keeps saying CPU FAN ERROR and then to press F1

Also apparently I have 7 keyboards and 4 mice connected

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[still roost]

NomadHorizon#8013 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cliff]

Kek

[sharp tundra]

Bruh

Gamer

[wanton cliff]

We Gaming out here

On jah tho

What’s up with my fans

[muted patio]

Disable CPU fan monitoring

[wanton cliff]

Alright

[muted patio]

Or plug a fan into it

[wanton cliff]

Also alright but I don’t want to dig around behind my rear panel right now

Where is the CPU fan monitoring button

[muted patio]

Proibably somewhere under Q-Fan options

[sharp tundra]

behind the rear panel

[wanton cliff]

What?

[sharp tundra]

I'm kidding

[wanton cliff]

That’s where the wire for one of my fans is

I’m not using that fan because it’s mixed in with all the other cables

And that area is a certified mess

Cable management is not my strong suit, let’s just say that

I reset it without changing anything and it let me boot?

Weird

Also no sound

That may be because of my Index

Yep, wrong audio device set

CPU rose way up to 60c according to HWiNFO64 but is already back down to 45c, where it is raising again

Back up to 50c

Now down to 46

Is that just how water pumps work?

36c

Huh

Anyways, what’s a good synthetic workload I can put on this thing for heat?

[muted patio]

cinebench

[wanton cliff]

Alrighty then

Multi core or single core

[muted patio]

multi

[wanton cliff]

Starting

Damn that’s fast

Already almost halfway done with pass 1

68c and staying there

12601 points

Thoughts?

[balmy patio]

is that with your new aio?

[wanton cliff]

Yep

[balmy patio]

sheesh nice one

[wanton cliff]

DRGB not working on fans tho

[balmy patio]

smh

sad sara

[wanton cliff]

Guess you can’t daisy chain 4 things at once on a single header

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp tundra]

Laughs in unifans

[wanton cliff]

Stfu nomad

Can’t even put Overpriced Unifans on a rad smh

Also I haven’t hit 70c yet

Even all core

[sharp tundra]

They're $25/fan

[wanton cliff]

4.28 GHZ, 69c (nice), 12,000 points in cinebench so far

I have not yet hit 70c

In fact, temps are actually going down

3800x btw

[balmy patio]

big numbers

who doesn't like them

[wanton cliff]

Currently stable at 69.5c and it goes down half a degree after every pass

[scenic quiver]

last minute change of plans. I added an additional 250gb m.2 for the purpose of running windows. the other 1tb m.2 will house my games. is this a thing people do?

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[balmy patio]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

Make sure your board has 2 M.2 headers tho

Most AMD boards do

[scenic quiver]

it appears mine does, yes.

[balmy patio]

m.2 headers smh

slots

[wanton cliff]

Stfu

I’ve been talking about headers too long smh

Fan headers, RGB headers, pump headers

Smh

[balmy patio]

lmao

[wanton cliff]

Minecraft with shaders: harder on GPU or CPU?

Actually maybe I’ll play a game of modern warfare

That’s a pretty CPU heavy game

TFW an eighth of a gigabyte per second

My days of thermal throttling are over but this thing loud as hell

[balmy patio]

what cooler did you have before the ek-aio 360?

[wanton cliff]

Wraith Prism

[verbal quarry]

Which is better? Seagate 4tb or WD Blue 4tb

[sharp tundra]

WDBLUE

[stoic island]

depends

[formal cosmos]

uhh

[stoic island]

Brand isn't always everything

model matters

[verbal quarry]

It's just gonna be game storage

[formal cosmos]

.

is this normal? ram is at 50% load

[verbal quarry]

Looking at a Seagate barracuda 7200rpm

[stoic island]

also, for 4tb, grab a toshiba x300 imo @verbal quarry

[formal cosmos]

i only have valorant and chrom open

[verbal quarry]

How much is it?

[stoic island]

~100$

105$ maybe

[sharp tundra]

well i know that, but seagate is still not as good as other brands in that matter

[verbal quarry]

I can't break over $80

[stoic island]

...

[verbal quarry]

Ik

[stoic island]

do you really need 4tb then?

Because iirc the <80$ 4tb WD drive is also smr

[sharp tundra]

@verbal quarry 4TB is A LOT of storage my guy

especially if its just for games

[verbal quarry]

I've been using a 1tb as my only storage and im tired of not having enough

[formal cosmos]

.

[verbal quarry]

I literally use that 1tb for everything

[stoic island]

eh, 85$
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013HNYV8I

I'd get x300 tho

[sharp tundra]

well with MW taking up half a TB on its own

but most games arent like that, lbh

[stoic island]

if you can't go above 80$ at all, don't do 4tb drives

the cmr blue 4tb drive at 85$ is decent

[verbal quarry]

I would like to be able to download games and not have to delete a bunch

Alr

What would you recommend for under $80?

[brittle tinsel]

I only have games and I was using a full 4tb on my old px

Pc

[wanton cliff]

Minecraft with heavy shaders at 48c stable

[stoic island]

WD Blue 2tb with -RZ ending for ~60$

[brittle tinsel]

Although I was also developing a unity game that I lost in the surge RIP

[sharp tundra]

heres how i see it, if you dont play the game, you delete it, frees up storage and your library, if you ever want to play that game again, redownload and get rid of some other games you never play

[stoic island]

https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-blue-desktop-sata-hdd#WD20EZRZ

[sharp tundra]

i did that with my xbox, take it i was limited on storage, but if there was games i never played, they were removed

[brittle tinsel]

Very true, if it didn’t take my internet a week to install a game the size of ark or warzone I would consider that

But until we move kbps is all I got

[sharp tundra]

well those two

different story

[stoic island]

I have a 2tb drive, I clean off whatever game I don't feel like playing, and even including some videos I record, I never really go above 500gb used on top of my 960gb mp510

mp510 after overprovisioning and all only leaves me with like 890gb usable, on top of having weird write issues, so I try to keep under 500gb used

[sharp tundra]

i plan on getting a 980pro 2tb, and if i somehow manage to fill it up, ill buy another, but not until i need it

[formal cosmos]

my cpu temps are always 55c to 70c, do you think i installed my cpu cooler wrong? becuase i dont think i should be getting 70c while using chrome for youtube

[wanton cliff]

IDLE IN WINDOWS AND HEAVY LOAD IN GAMES IS ONLY A 5c DIFFERENCE! I LOVE THIS AIO!

[stoic island]

smh

@wanton cliff time for p95 smallfft?

[vagrant olive]

like 70 under load?

[wanton cliff]

Already did R23 but might as well

[stoic island]

70c doesn't sound that bad

r23 weak boi

p95 smallfft is stronk

[wanton cliff]

DM download link

[sharp tundra]

i never go above 75c gpu

[wanton cliff]

I’ll do it tomorrow

[stoic island]

https://www.mersenne.org/download/

[wanton cliff]

DM it because gonna do it tomorrow

[formal cosmos]

and i get like 65-80 while playing val on all low settings

[stoic island]

r20 and p95 blend gets my cpu to like 70c max

p95 smallfft got it to 110c once

[formal cosmos]

i have a ryzen 5 3600

[sharp tundra]

valhalla, valheim, valorant?

[formal cosmos]

valorant

[stoic island]

valhalla

[sharp tundra]

okay, lol

[formal cosmos]

what are bad temps?

what shjould my temps be uinder

[sharp tundra]

102c

[vagrant olive]

70s is good

80s is ok

anything higher than that is bad

[formal cosmos]

80?

higher than 80 is bad?

[vagrant olive]

like

if u go into high 80s-90s thats bad

[sharp tundra]

well for cpu, id say yeah

[vagrant olive]

^

[sharp tundra]

gpu can handle a bit higher

[formal cosmos]

hmm

i get like under 85 when playing r6 on all low settings

[vagrant olive]

what cooler are you using

[sharp tundra]

All low?

[formal cosmos]

but it usually stays at 80 when im playing r6

[formal cosmos]

yup

[sharp tundra]

bruh you playing 4k?

[formal cosmos]

stock

and i have 4 arctic p12 fans

[vagrant olive]

amd or intel

[sharp tundra]

please tell me thats not 1080p low

[formal cosmos]

amd

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnm7ZZ

i got a 750w psu because i was day dreaming and i thought that i can get a 30 series card

[sharp tundra]

bruh, ur practically running my same build build, why are you so hot?

nohomo

[formal cosmos]

lmao

yeah

idky my temps on r6 are always at 80

[sharp tundra]

i dont really see my cpu temps, but i know for sure they are not hot at all

[formal cosmos]

i have 3 intake fans and 1 outake

[formal cosmos]

do you have an aio

[sharp tundra]

and i run 4k60 on high

nope, wraith prism

[formal cosmos]

WHATTTTT\

CPU?

[sharp tundra]

yes

[formal cosmos]

oh

im dumb

lol

[sharp tundra]

i do have a slightly better cooler, but i dont think the comparison would be that different

especially with how i run my pc

[stoic island]

run to run variations fun

coldplate evenness is fun

ihs evenness is fun

pre-applied thermal paste consistency is fun

[formal cosmos]

im seriously thinking in getting an aio...

what are your specs mr1111?

[stoic island]

3800x :P

early sample

[sharp tundra]

@stoic island are you an rgb hater?

[wanton cliff]

Heh

Back to this convo lmao

[sharp tundra]

im just curious

[stoic island]

kinda

[sharp tundra]

cause i dont understand how anyone cannot like

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra hating rgb software and hardware, yes

I really like the rgb on my keychron keeb for example, since that's hardware controlled, with no software necessary

and I don't have to mess with connectors

[sharp tundra]

the amount disappointment i have just been faced with is immeasurable

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra you'll see when people just can't understand why 3 pin 5v argb won't work with 4 pin 12v rgb :P

or just look for argb hubs that can be controlled by mobo

it's pain

just pain

[sharp tundra]

okay

yes, its a pain

but the end result is 🤤

[stoic island]

daily reminder of Keychron superiority
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041

[formal cosmos]

my pc just like gave up on life...

ig my pc can’t handle crunchy roll

[stoic island]

lol

[formal cosmos]

it just froze on me lmao

[sharp tundra]

bruh

i dont understand how your pc is struggling so hard

[formal cosmos]

that’s the second time this week

[wanton cliff]

K8

K6 gang

[formal cosmos]

ME NEITHER

like

[stoic island]

K8 gang

[verbal quarry]

I'm looking to buy a keychron

[formal cosmos]

i actually hate life because of my pc

[stoic island]

Dedicated prtscrn owner gang @wanton cliff

[verbal quarry]

I do like the k8 tho

[sharp tundra]

imma get the k100

[wanton cliff]

Does the K6 not have a PRTSCRN button?

Not like I use it anyways

[stoic island]

pretty sure k6 doesn't

[autumn wolf]

i cant get a keychron because the usb is on the left side of the keyboard instead of top left

or at least the one i want

[stoic island]

it doesn't have prntscrn and one of the thingies

[wanton cliff]

K6 is 100% I’m pretty sure so it should

[stoic island]

k4 is 96%

k6 was 75%

[formal cosmos]

i have a gk61x with milky yellows

[stoic island]

This is k6

[wanton cliff]

I must be confusing my keychron keyboard then

Which one is 100% or closest to it

I might have been thinking of the K4 actually

[stoic island]

k4

[wanton cliff]

Yeah pretty sure that’s the one I was thinking about

[sharp tundra]

i have a k55 right now, but at the time it was for xbox cause my crappy logitech keyboard broke

[autumn wolf]

i want k6 but usb is on the side of the keyboard

[stoic island]

@autumn wolf just run it wireless then

[autumn wolf]

i want my coiled cable

reeeee

[wanton cliff]

I just have a Cynosa rn but planning on joining the Keychron master race next time I have the money

[stoic island]

top left port so

@sharp tundra actually not bad tho

[sharp tundra]

oh wait

im dumb

[formal cosmos]

when you get t 70° on crunchy roll

i hate life...

[muted patio]

wat

What case and cooler is that or do I not want to know?

[mild kindle]

anynoe here bought from shoptblt

[formal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnm7ZZ

[formal cosmos]

i have no cooler

and a h510

[autumn wolf]

[muted patio]

Dood

you have to hve a CPU cooler lol

[formal cosmos]

i’m jk

i sent my pc link

and i have 4 arctic p12 fans

[muted patio]

OH, stock AMD cooler?

[formal cosmos]

3 intake and 1 outake

[formal cosmos]

yes.

[stoic island]

h510 interesting

[muted patio]

Pretty typical for that

[stoic island]

might be half of the problem

[autumn wolf]

sad stealth cooler

[sharp tundra]

i know wireless keyboard and mice are getting way better, honestly, when i get my dark core rgb pro se mouse, im just gonna use it wireless with the mm1000 mouse pad

[formal cosmos]

i don’t have an h510

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnm7ZZ

my pc

[muted patio]

4000D lol

[formal cosmos]

IT WAS A JOKE

[muted patio]

Bruh, pick one of these up

v

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B082V7TCSB

$26

[stoic island]

@formal cosmos get a fan in the back

[muted patio]

Keeps my wifes 10600K chillly

[formal cosmos]

i do

[sharp tundra]

5900X 3090 w/o cooler in a h510

[stoic island]

@formal cosmos also use like hwinfo or aida64 or anything else for temps smh

couldn't even tell what the temps were

71c seems normal

[formal cosmos]

what’s that?

lol

[muted patio]

71C while browsing web seems a bit high

[formal cosmos]

i have 3 intake and 1 outake fan as well

[stoic island]

meh

stock paste stock cooler sometimes make for fun times

[muted patio]

Honestly

[muted patio]

I'd take one of the front fans

[sharp tundra]

eww, why the red lights in a white pc?

[muted patio]

And put it on the top for exhaust

At least balance the flow

[stoic island]

meh

positive still nice

[formal cosmos]

why not

[stoic island]

dragon center is

ick

oh well

[formal cosmos]

i only use it bc of my mobo

[stoic island]

I have msi mobo too

but bios

[formal cosmos]

and mystic light

[stoic island]

bios is nicer

[formal cosmos]

i’m curious

[sharp tundra]

its like someone being murdered in a white room

[formal cosmos]

can i see your pcpp list

[stoic island]

no u

[sharp tundra]

thats why

[formal cosmos]

uhh

true

[stoic island]

it's around here somewhere

everything was bought like a year ago
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/QDTRkL

[sharp tundra]

oh man

ur one of those people that finds noctua fans attractive

[formal cosmos]

ram looks sexy

[stoic island]

heh

@sharp tundra d15 doesn't actually look good, u12a looks really nice

random image

[sharp tundra]

but the brown

[formal cosmos]

so... what should i do with my current temps situation

[sharp tundra]

its grotty

[formal cosmos]

ima buy a $500 prebuilt

and play cyberpunk on it

and destroy my old pc

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra all I gotta say is

I'm still very intrigued by the idea of a Noctua Desk Fan ngl

[sharp tundra]

BUT NO RGB

[stoic island]

oh

you're a rgb person

rip

[formal cosmos]

what aio should i get?

[stoic island]

Freezer ii

ek-aio

galahad

big 3 bois

[formal cosmos]

i’m scared of getting an aio because of leaking and shi

[sharp tundra]

bruh, if noctua made rgb fans

[stoic island]

NO

NEVER

[sharp tundra]

there would no longer be competition

[stoic island]

nah

[formal cosmos]

fr

[sharp tundra]

ya

[stoic island]

nidec would just turn around

[formal cosmos]

better than corsair

[stoic island]

GT 2.0

[sharp tundra]

noctua rgb fans

[formal cosmos]

this.

[sharp tundra]

everyone knows they push the most air and are the quietest, so why not appease everyone who isnt old and make rgb fans?

[formal cosmos]

noctua rgb fans would be elite

in white 😩

[stoic island]

Not actually when you look further into it >:D

[formal cosmos]

what fans do you have mr1111

[stoic island]

crappy ones

[sharp tundra]

nOcTuA

[stoic island]

The stuff I own is crap

but anyways

[formal cosmos]

noctua is good

just ugly as shi

[stoic island]

Nidec's PWM Gentle Typhoons outperform everything Noctua has other than nf-a12x25 in noise normalized

iirc

And gets close enough to a12x25 in noise normalized

and is dbb if you don't want fluid bearings

[sharp tundra]

we are talking about fans right? not coolers?

[stoic island]

technically maybe more reliably than Noctua

Yes

Fans

[formal cosmos]

rgb 👀

[stoic island]

a12x25s are great tho

[formal cosmos]

that’s it.

i’m getting an aio

for

a

[sharp tundra]

ok, im not familar with noctuas model names cause they all just a bunch of random numbers and letters slapped together

[formal cosmos]

5 3600

[stoic island]

no it's not

[sharp tundra]

hey, my buddy got a aio for a 2700x

[stoic island]

nh-
basically all coolers
nf-
basically all fans

2700x was actually hawt tho

[formal cosmos]

i’m actually so pissed

that i’m getting 70° on chrome

[muted patio]

Why. Just get the ID SSE-224XT lol.

3600 doesn't make enough heat for an AIO

[stoic island]

dunno what you're complaining about, I'm chilling at 70-80c in chrome >:P

[sharp tundra]

think about the future of possibilty

[stoic island]

ahaha

SSD may or may not be 60c

[formal cosmos]

if i want good temps i would have to enable this

silent mode, but my cpu clock would be like 2100mhz

[stoic island]

...

manually do the things

manually set fan curves and your frequency

[sharp tundra]

is it normal for your pc to just casually use liek 25% of your ram?

[stoic island]

rammap time

[formal cosmos]

me?

[stoic island]

Yes

[formal cosmos]

my ram is at 26% load on chrome

is that normal too?

[stoic island]

"load" isn't really a concept for ram, it's just used/allocated, but normal

[muted patio]

I'm using 29% with the usual stuff open

[stoic island]

I'm chilling at 50% with just chrome, outlook, and video

[muted patio]

I mean, you have ram for a reason. Let the system use it, within reason

[sharp tundra]

how you do that?

[stoic island]

I can make it disappear too

magic

[sharp tundra]

0% CPU

[formal cosmos]

ok

like here

[stoic island]

this is how you do it

[formal cosmos]

or should i use some other software

[stoic island]

other

[sharp tundra]

bruh, ur wifi more unstable thatn mine, lol

[stoic island]

Ryzen Master at least

[sharp tundra]

and i have BAD internet

[formal cosmos]

what’s wrong with dragon center?

[wanton cliff]

This your system?

[wanton cliff]

MSI

[stoic island]

I know it is unstable

[stoic island]

laptop atm

not main system

[wanton cliff]

Ah

2133mhz RAM?

[stoic island]

it's weird asf

it somehow changes frequency

I don't even know

[sharp tundra]

i was wonder why you all of a sudden had Intel apu

[wanton cliff]

Kek

No discrete GPU either

Just integrated UHD

Which laptop is it?

[sharp tundra]

Hakbook Bro

jk

[formal cosmos]

wow!

[stoic island]

latitude something

[formal cosmos]

rn i have my temps from 50°-65° sometimes 70

[sharp tundra]

so you think i could get more money by parting out my PC or by selling it all together?

[stoic island]

depends

probably if you're going to scalp gpu

[formal cosmos]

these helped my temps

i’m just gonna leave it like this

[sharp tundra]

heehee

$800 1660s

[formal cosmos]

i was lucky enough to buy one for $230

[sharp tundra]

i got mine for free

well

[formal cosmos]

1660?

[sharp tundra]

i traded for it

[formal cosmos]

oh

you should feel special

you got a 3080

[sharp tundra]

i had a 5600xt first, then i got a 1660s and a xbox one x

[formal cosmos]

wait...

do you have a 3080?

[sharp tundra]

not yet

[formal cosmos]

ohhh okay

[sharp tundra]

thats for my next pc

wait a minute

vram can be clocked to 14000mHz?

[formal cosmos]

is this good? ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports - Tower CPU Cooler with BioniX P-Series case Fan, 120 mm PWM Fan, for Intel and AMD Socket - Grey;White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082MRJ1W7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4G6VSH5Y1DYKG7PHNCX2 @stoic island

[stoic island]

different ways of measurement, I gave up trying to figure out what was what

[stoic island]

get se-224-xt :P

[sharp tundra]

well, if i can get 14000Mhz out of this 1660s, id be ballin

[formal cosmos]

is it better?

[stoic island]

yes

[formal cosmos]

can i change the fan?

i don’t like the rgb fan

[stoic island]

uh

se-224-xt basic then

it's the same thing, just no rgb

[formal cosmos]

i want a white fan

like the arctic fan

[wanton cliff]

Real Aftermarket Fan hours

[stoic island]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0874512QH/

white version of se224xt

I'm giving up on typing the -'s

[sharp tundra]

so heres what my current PC would cost in todays money

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVxDNP

[formal cosmos]

kinda sad...

with the 16 series cards

[sharp tundra]

$600 1660s lookin kinda good

[formal cosmos]

and every card in general

[wanton cliff]

3600 cheaper than usual

[sharp tundra]

by $5 lol

[formal cosmos]

it still have that ugly rgb fan

i might go with this one ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports - Tower CPU Cooler with BioniX P-Series case Fan, 120 mm PWM Fan, for Intel and AMD Socket - Grey;White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082MRJ1W7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4G6VSH5Y1DYKG7PHNCX2

it’s sexy

[scenic quiver]

this was my final result. parts on the way! Much excite! also much nervousness lol. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelsht/saved/rktmrH

[sharp tundra]

so lets say i dropped the price of everything on my pc by a bit, and sold parts individually, and also decided to scalp the gpu for $600, i could get back $1200 still

[formal cosmos]

what gpu are you getting

[stoic island]

smh

[scenic quiver]

I'm not. i'm going to use my current 2060s

[formal cosmos]

ohh okay

[sharp tundra]

but i mean, is it really scalping since this card isnt really made much anymore?

[stoic island]

@scenic quiver is the 1tb drive + 250gb drive intentional or did I miss anything?

[scenic quiver]

intentional. one for windows and the other for strict games.

[stoic island]

uh

huh

[desert gulch]

not worth imo

[scenic quiver]

i could have partitioned the 1tb to house windows but meh.

[desert gulch]

id just stick with a 1tb

[sharp tundra]

get yourself an Aorus RGB 256GB NVMe M.2 just because it looks cool

[desert gulch]

also that ram is overpriced

[sharp tundra]

dont mind that its double the price

[desert gulch]

go get some ballistix

3600 c16

cheaper than ripjaws5

[sharp tundra]

I wonder if you can swap heat spreaders on 2 different ram brands?

[stoic island]

maybe

[lyric thistle]

Sure you can

Why though

[sharp tundra]

cause like, i want that 4000cl15 from gskill, but i also want that noice Dom Plat from corsair

[lyric thistle]

Fair

[sharp tundra]

is there a "Build-a-ram" workshop somewhere?

[lyric thistle]

I can imagine wanting to swap in some situations

[wanton cliff]

5100 CL14 from Crucial exists

[sharp tundra]

bruh

is there a practical mobo out there that even supports that?

[potent portal]

Totally

AMD ones mostly

[stoic island]

You sure?

I think 10th gen Intel still has better imc

although 4750g

4750g op

[sharp tundra]

i may just say F-it and buy both sets of ram

they both look great, but i want that "ALL CORSAIR" build

but Dom Plat is slow in either timing or speed

you cant have the best of both worlds with corsair

[wanton cliff]

Can I put my 2x16 kit together with my 2x8 kit and still run in dual channel

Would have to mess with timings and all that

[lyric thistle]

I don't see why not

Oh it's different timing kits?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

[lyric thistle]

Ah

[potent portal]

One example of AMD board that supports 5100+
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144322?&quicklink=true

[wanton cliff]

The 2x8 one is C18, I’d have to check exact timings

[sharp tundra]

ngl, i just found out today you could change timings on ram

[wanton cliff]

Heh

The die on the 2x8 kit isn’t the best tho

G.Skill tridentZ

Don’t know exact name of die but I know it ain’t great

[sharp tundra]

i could always force the Dom Plat to be 4000cl15

[potent portal]

The Intel equivalent of that board I linked says it supports 5333 but only a single stick at that speed

[wanton cliff]

Imagine FCLK lmao

No IMC can support that

maybe Diamond samples

maybe

[lyric thistle]

Single stick

[sharp tundra]

1 Ram, 3 dummy's

[potent portal]

My fclk can go to 2000 and still be stable when gaming and benching

[sharp tundra]

i mean, not like intel needs dual channel anyways

[potent portal]

2033... not so much

[wanton cliff]

Or low latency

[sharp tundra]

so if you change ram stuff, how do you know its stable? does your PC just take a dump when its not stable?

does it overheat?

[potent portal]

Basically, It'll either refuse to POST or blue screen when booting but sometimes it's more subtle, like programs crashing/slowing

[wanton cliff]

I still forget what POST is an acronym for

[potent portal]

The sticks CAN overheat but that's usually at higher voltages like 1.5+ and at that level you want an active cooler

power on self test

[wanton cliff]

Right

[sharp tundra]

so what would be the chances i could turn a 3600 16-18-18-36 into a 4000 15-16-16-36?

[wanton cliff]

Which kit?

G.Skill?

If so, that’s probs B-Die so maybe

[desert gulch]

depends on the die

yeah

[sharp tundra]

Dom Plat

[wanton cliff]

Yeah maybe not

Corsair ram kinda garbage

[sharp tundra]

dangit Corsair

[potent portal]

With a low bin B-Die going +200 MHz is easy, you gotta get lucky for more

[sharp tundra]

ill just buy new die

solder it on myself

[wanton cliff]

Heh

Ok then

[potent portal]

I'd love to see the fire that starts when you plug that modified RAM in

Micro soldering is almost impossible for humans

[sharp tundra]

everything is fine

[desert gulch]

especially with my shaky hands lol

i can weld rly nice but thats about it

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[desert gulch]

and not tig

mig and smaw

lol

[muted patio]

Watch Louis Rossman reball IC's and install them lol

[sharp tundra]

Oxy Acetylene?

[desert gulch]

i can do a bit of that too

not the best tho

[sharp tundra]

i could never do it

[desert gulch]

more precision needed for it

with that tiny wire

[sharp tundra]

i always blew holes right through the metal

[desert gulch]

lol

[potent portal]

I did say "almost", exceptions exist of course

[sharp tundra]

now arc, i was decent at

tig i was great

and plasma i was pretty good at too

[desert gulch]

a kid in my welding class went thru a 1/4 inch steel plate with a 6010 lmao

[wanton cliff]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[desert gulch]

on accident

[violet harness]

could anyone here make a 600$ cad build (including monitor) for my little brother?

[desert gulch]

thats gonna be rly hard with current market rn

[sharp tundra]

Oxy Acetylene i was actually alright at when i first started doing it, but then i slowly got worse instead of better

[desert gulch]

id say thats a igpu build tho

[potent portal]

600 cad? With monitor?

[violet harness]

its all he got

[sharp tundra]

oh boi

[desert gulch]

475.83 United States Dollar

is 600 cad atm

[potent portal]

That's a 10100 iGPU build

[sharp tundra]

tell him to get a series x

[violet harness]

he could do that, and save for a gpu later

[violet harness]

he doesnt want a console

[desert gulch]

id go console tbh

[wanton cliff]

Maybe if you can get a 1650Ti or something at MSRP...

[potent portal]

You might have to go used for some of the parts

[desert gulch]

maybe

but sara that 475 usd with a monitor

it would be tight

[violet harness]

1650ti isnt a thing

[sharp tundra]

well that $500 console is gonna out perform any PC for $500

[wanton cliff]

Yes it is lol

[desert gulch]

yes it is

[wanton cliff]

I have one lmao

[violet harness]

he.doesnt.want.a.console.

[sharp tundra]

O.K.A.Y

just saying

its practically a waste of money at that point

[wanton cliff]

Why? It’s a gaming computer, isn’t it?

[potent portal]

Ok, but any PC at that price point is going to be mostly used parts from 2-3 generations ago

[wanton cliff]

Just hook up a KB to it and get gaming

[desert gulch]

yeah i dont think he'll be happy with the perf if he goes pc

[violet harness]

yes but he doesnt want a console

[muted patio]

it's mobile

-_-

[violet harness]

he just want something that can play java minecraft

[wanton cliff]

I thought there were desktop ones that exist?

[violet harness]

no

[wanton cliff]

I mean, I have a mobile one but still

[desert gulch]

bruh anything can play mc

[violet harness]

ye but max perf

[desert gulch]

wdym max perf?

[sharp tundra]

i can play MC on my samsung smart fridge

[wanton cliff]

I coulda sworn I saw a desktop 1650Ti at one point

[desert gulch]

for 475 with monitor you wont be looking at max perf

[wanton cliff]

Musta been a 1660 or something

[muted patio]

If you did it was fake

[wanton cliff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Probably

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Geforce-Phoenix-Graphics-PH-GTX1050TI-4G/dp/B01M360WG6/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=GTX+1650+Ti+Graphic+Cards&qid=1615435445&sr=8-4

what about this?

legit?

whoops 1050

[sharp tundra]

MAX PERFORMANCE???

[desert gulch]

ti

lol

[violet harness]

no

[desert gulch]

imma look for a 1650ti

[violet harness]

i mean

max performance for the budget

[desert gulch]

THEN GO CONSOLE

[violet harness]

its a mobile gpu

[sharp tundra]

a $500 PC is gonna be playing MC at MAYBE 1080

[violet harness]

HE DOESNT WANT A CONSOLE

[desert gulch]

this says console to me

[potent portal]

Even i3 8100 is going for almost $100, and that won't do jack

[sharp tundra]

TELL HIM HE WANTS A CONSOLE

[violet harness]

he doesnt

[desert gulch]

if you want the max perf for like 400-500 bucks you go console

[violet harness]

i cant change a 12 year old's mind

[sharp tundra]

No, were making his mind up for him, he wants a console

[desert gulch]

no pc you can get for sub 500 bucks will beat a series x or ps5

[violet harness]

he wants to play java mc and cs:go

[potent portal]

Not even close to a PS4

[sharp tundra]

Not a single Pc on this planet

[desert gulch]

max performance for a budget means console

[violet harness]

i watched some benchmark vids and a pentium g5400 gets 100+ fps on mc

[desert gulch]

hell, a series x prolly outpaces my pc in gaming

[sharp tundra]

for $500, you will be getting old gen, used, unreliable parts

[desert gulch]

nomad remember its 475 usd with a monitor

[sharp tundra]

EVEN WORSE

[violet harness]

doesnt have to have a monitor

[desert gulch]

so either crappy free monitor or 400 dollar pc

[violet harness]

would just be a plus

[desert gulch]

bruh

[sharp tundra]

does he have a TV?

[desert gulch]

.

(including monitor)

[flint sapphire]

He wants a console

[desert gulch]

yea

[sharp tundra]

YEs

[violet harness]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yvtVTJ

[desert gulch]

dont even dare

[violet harness]

under 600$ cad, and gets 100+ fps on mc

[desert gulch]

that stuff is literally garbage

[sharp tundra]

I cant rn

[violet harness]

still gets 100+ fps on mc

[sharp tundra]

on what res? 480p?

[desert gulch]

read the description of that cpu

a review

Nice Processor, I definitely recommend it. I bought it for $65, and that's the same price as the G5400! Pretty much cannot game (at least what I've tried) but yeah.

[violet harness]

he probably tried like modern warfare

[desert gulch]

bruh

literally cannot game

[sharp tundra]

you cant even install MW on that PC you just posted

[violet harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAeeEjucahE 1080p low

[desert gulch]

yeah

[violet harness]

no crap

hes not gonna be playing mw