#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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dunno if it stands for anything

scenic plaza
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also should i get 5800x or 5600x

stoic island
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"larger case for large cooler" wise, all good cases I like to recommend can fit d15s/u12a, like td500 mesh, lancool ii mesh, p500a

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and I've recently been informed p400a can fit d15, although not confirmed

scenic plaza
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like which is better for gaming

stoic island
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@scenic plaza 5800x is kinda stupid price wise, I'd love to see when AMD makes a 5700x, so, unless you need the extra cores, 5600x is a better value proposition

scenic plaza
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thanks i appreciate the help

stoic island
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:)

scenic plaza
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šŸ˜€

rich helm
stoic island
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I'd personally just go for td500 mesh/lancool ii mesh/p500a

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I don't really like the look of hole-in-metal, but it's fine

rich helm
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Ok šŸ‘

rich void
scenic plaza
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whats your pc for @rich helm

rich helm
stoic island
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I'd like to see when possible of measurements or testing on which kits will work and which won't

scenic plaza
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bc 5900x is good to

stoic island
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Because spec wise, D15 height is 165mm, P400a supports 160mm iirc

rich helm
scenic plaza
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true true

rich void
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Ah, you need really short ram to fit it I think, somewhere in the 30-36mm range, but I don't know what exactly you can get away with

stoic island
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Aegis maybe

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but I'd like to see AT LEAST ripjaws fitting as "compatible"

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I think ripjaws are 42mm?

rich helm
shut rampart
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my pc is kinda dying runing 4 minecraf

rich helm
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Somehow went from rgb build to stealth but ok

stoic island
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lmao looking closer and closer to the list I made at first >:D

shut rampart
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im looking to upgrade the ram

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which one should i buy

stoic island
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also, I don't get the 2tb ssd part

rich helm
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Took a little inspiration

stoic island
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I like 1tb ssd + 4tb hdd

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lot more storage, and still can store a ton on ssd

rich void
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Noctua claims 32mm clearance with the second fan in the standard position. I have ripjaws and didn't think I could get the fan high enough to clear them while putting the side panel on

shut rampart
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looking to upgrade the ram

stoic island
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actually

shut rampart
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cuz the ram is kinda dying runing 4 mc

stoic island
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@shut rampart out of curiosity, does it crash in games when you run it at xmp

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because mine did

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so I hate team vulcan

shut rampart
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what do you xmp?

stoic island
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3200c16

shut rampart
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sometimes

stoic island
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lemme find which exact kit I have

rich helm
shut rampart
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but not always

stoic island
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I had rust just not even starting up when it was at xmp

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division 2 BSOD relating to memory every ~20 minutes when it was xmp

shut rampart
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any ram I can buy

stoic island
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@shut rampart what's the budget?

shut rampart
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maybe a 32g

rich helm
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Or…

stoic island
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anyways I regret buying this kit

scenic plaza
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how much for

shut rampart
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idk

stoic island
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Give us a range maybe?

shut rampart
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like 100-200

scenic turret
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Join the ballistics gang

stoic island
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got it

shut rampart
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seems good enough

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is mix matching ram a good idea

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or a bad idea

rich helm
shut rampart
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cuz I was looking to buy another ram

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for me

stoic island
shut rampart
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another 16 g

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vaum

stoic island
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I hate team's low end kits after my experience with the vulcan kit

shut rampart
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2666mz?

rich helm
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I got Vulcan because it’s low profile ish

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Not for personal build

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But for mini itx build

stoic island
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oops

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god damn it

shut rampart
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wrong kit?

stoic island
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I was wondering why it looked cheap

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yea one sec

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There

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wait

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I need sleep

rich helm
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I want to buy 32gb of ram but also want to have money…

stoic island
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I keep clicking the wrong kits

shut rampart
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is it a good idea to add the same team kit

stoic island
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no

rich helm
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I bought expensive ram for my computer so now upgrade is expensive too

stoic island
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I feel like you'll have more issues

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just because team kit

shut rampart
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" Expected availability: 7-14 business days
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oof

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any other kit

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that can come in 14 days

scenic turret
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Still Ocing this 32gb kit. Currently at 3733mhz. Need to mess with FLCK

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Yea ballistics are popular, restock is taking time

shut rampart
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how much does ur cost

rich helm
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I need more time to do work

scenic turret
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I got the last kit Amazon had in Canada, so $235 Canadian

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32gb 3600mhz CL16 kit

rich helm
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So I can actually buy new monitor

scenic plaza
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should i take ballistic or corsair vengence

rich helm
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Much better

scenic plaza
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ok

scenic turret
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Ballistics have much better IC chips

rich helm
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Vengeance is wonk iirc

scenic plaza
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so will that make performance better

shut rampart
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the same as mr1111?

rich helm
shut rampart
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but in the color of white?

rich helm
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More expensive for the rgb

scenic turret
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^

shut rampart
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how come white is cheaper then black

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and it has rgb

scenic turret
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Probably restocked

muted patio
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Cuz IDK so take advantage and run lol

shut rampart
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Expected availability: 2-4 weeks

rich helm
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But ugly

shut rampart
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while black

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is 14 days

scenic turret
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Red tends to be cheaper since no one buys them

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Unless you vinyl wrap them

shut rampart
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well im looking for 32g

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not 16g smh

scenic turret
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Ballistics were supposed to restock this week

rich helm
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I am going to try to build and setup at least 4 PCs today

shut rampart
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well i guess I will wait 14 days

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to get my

rich helm
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I’m going to be productive

scenic plaza
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4 pc's today?

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how many parts do you have

scenic turret
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I've only built 4 PCs so far šŸ˜…, my 5th build in a week and a half

rich helm
rich helm
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Well one is partially built

scenic plaza
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oh lol

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for who tho

rich helm
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My dad

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Work computers for his employees

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These will be numbers 19-25 I believe

scenic turret
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I see you also have a Ncase M1

rich helm
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Amazon when I order nr200 black and they send me nr200p white lol

rich helm
scenic turret
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Lol

scenic turret
rich helm
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Same with the pcie risers, lol I didn’t order the pcie riser editions either

scenic turret
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Lol, and Amazon just sent them like that

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Could sell them

rich helm
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Maybe, not sure if the riser is only for this case though

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Very short

balmy patio
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what other stuff will you be putting innit?

rich helm
balmy patio
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nice

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for work?

rich helm
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Yeah

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A little extreme

balmy patio
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yeah tbh

rich helm
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For the application

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But idk

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Had a 700 bucks budget, I’ll use it

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Well it went like 20 bucks over but that’s because itx stuff more expensive

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The matx ones were all like 650

balmy patio
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itx stuff smh

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it's either cheap and poo or expensive just because it's itx

rich void
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@stoic island just measured and I think I have 1cm between the glass and the fan in the stock position. Ripjaws are 42mm heigh and the stock position provides 32mm clearance, so it'd be extremely tight and may not be possible in a p400a

scenic plaza
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hwy guys just a question, should i get two 16gb ram kits or on 32gb ram kit?

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hey*

muted patio
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Get 2x16Gb sticks so you hve room to upgrade in the future

rich helm
meager moth
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Im finally about to get my pc!

rich helm
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If not 16x2 probably

scenic plaza
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doesnt really matter just want to know which is better

meager moth
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hi

scenic plaza
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hi

muted patio
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Technically there's more performance with Dual Rank ram

desert gulch
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16x2 better

muted patio
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But really only shows in synthetic benchmarks

scenic plaza
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ok

desert gulch
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Since you'll be able to upgrade

scenic plaza
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thanks

muted patio
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Dual Rank meaning chips on both sides

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so 16Gb sticks

scenic plaza
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thanks so much

rancid lodge
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Any good fan suggestions? Looking for four 120mm fans (preferably RGB but idc really) for my Lian Li O11D XL

desert gulch
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Budget or no?

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I'd cooling has a rly nice budget ones that work well

scenic plaza
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corsair LL120's are good if no budget

autumn wolf
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eh

desert gulch
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Lian li uni Is best

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If you have no budget

scenic plaza
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true

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thats a good suggestion

autumn wolf
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also eh

desert gulch
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Expensive tho

scenic plaza
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mhm

autumn wolf
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depends on what kind of lighting setup you want

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uni's are meh to me for lighting

scenic plaza
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is ryzen 9 with rtx 3070 gonna be bottlenecking

desert gulch
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Statik if you have 500 bucks to spend on fans for your case rn what would you get

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Well I'm assuming they do workstation stuff

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Cause a 5950x is not the best gaming cpu 5900x is

scenic plaza
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yea i mean 5900x

desert gulch
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Oh ok

rancid lodge
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I mean I'd prefer to keep it at max like, 20-25 USD per unit, I don't want to spend too much more on fans lol

autumn wolf
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if strictly speaking on $500 for fans mainly for lighting then QL's from corsair. if $500 for fans for performance, probs some noctua's

desert gulch
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Check out I'd cooling 5 pack of rgb

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Statik you seen the I'd cooling rgb fans?

scenic plaza
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or should i get rx 6800 xt with it

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bc it has smart access memory

scenic turret
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SAM doesn't do that much

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Tbh

desert gulch
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Ye

scenic plaza
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ok

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but 3070 or rx 6800 xt with 5900x

scenic turret
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6800XT has much more performance than 3070

scenic plaza
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ok

scenic turret
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Should be 3080 or 6800XT

desert gulch
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5900x can def keep up with a 3070 easily no problem

scenic plaza
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also how much is it like 650?

rancid lodge
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So yeah I don't care about RGB too much when it comes to the fans but I'd prefer for four fans to keep the price under 100$

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or at least around 100$ USD

desert gulch
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Sniperbos I'll find a link one sec

balmy patio
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tbh you shouldn't just buy a 5900x jus to game with it

rancid lodge
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alr šŸ‘

scenic plaza
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im not

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im doing other things on it too

balmy patio
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fair

scenic plaza
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but how much is 6800 xt

rancid lodge
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I'm gonna be modeling and video editing with mine as well as gaming so, good use of all those cores

scenic plaza
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yes

rancid lodge
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prob gonna run a minecraft server and play on it too cause with 12 cores

scenic plaza
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what cpu?

desert gulch
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Imma ask sips for the link cause I can't find them rn

scenic plaza
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@rancid lodge what cpu

desert gulch
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Bruh

rancid lodge
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my nick-

desert gulch
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In his name

scenic plaza
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oops sorry lol

rancid lodge
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lol

scenic plaza
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what card you gonna get like besides temp 580

rancid lodge
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I was thinking 3070/3080 but once prices stabilize

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I need a new GPU soon, idk how long my 8GB 580 is gonna hold

scenic plaza
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but can someone telll me price of 6800 xt

rancid lodge
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most games run it upwards of 90% utilization

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most intense games at higher graphics levels*

balmy patio
scenic plaza
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ok thanks

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and 3080 is 600?

scenic turret
scenic plaza
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ok

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so either will work

balmy patio
scenic turret
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^

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However both are severely out of stock

scenic plaza
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but 6800 xt has 16gb and 3080 has 10gb vram

balmy patio
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expect to pay more though, only fe cards are at msrp

scenic plaza
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hes true stock is the issue

rancid lodge
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and prices are around 850 not 700

scenic turret
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And priced higher due to tariffs and stock issues

scenic plaza
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yes

scenic turret
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6800XT Aorus Master is like $899USD

scenic plaza
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i might go with 6800xt

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but look for a good priced one

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hopefully micro center has some

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or will get some

rancid lodge
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try and get it from AMD direct

balmy patio
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i think amd sells the reference card at msrp

scenic plaza
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soon

balmy patio
scenic plaza
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link pls?

rancid lodge
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AMD direct is your best bet

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they'll drop tomorrow

balmy patio
scenic plaza
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for amd direct

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thanks

rancid lodge
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~11:38 AM EST

scenic turret
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6700XT also will come out soon, that will compete with 3070

muted patio
scenic turret
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For sure

scenic plaza
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6800 or 68000 xt which better

scenic turret
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6800XT

balmy patio
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6800xt

scenic turret
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6800 not worth it

rancid lodge
scenic plaza
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ok

meager moth
scenic plaza
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sure

muted patio
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List is private

scenic plaza
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its private

balmy patio
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cheap and non rgb

rancid lodge
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lemme take a look

scenic plaza
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@meager moth its private

muted patio
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Are you buying all that new?

meager moth
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no

scenic plaza
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id say get 3600

muted patio
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Current build then?

meager moth
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i already have tha parts i want to k what to ugrade

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brb

scenic plaza
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and maybe a 5500xt or 5600xt

stoic island
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wack

balmy patio
scenic plaza
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yea

rancid lodge
stoic island
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I'd get storage either way

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rgb = expensive

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and also wack

scenic plaza
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yup

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its expensie

stoic island
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good fans are basically all non-rgb :(

scenic plaza
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expensive*

scenic turret
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Noctua ze best

stoic island
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rgb software is weird, rgb hardware support is weird

scenic plaza
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lol

scenic turret
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I wish Noctua did sell RGB fans, oh well

rancid lodge
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Yeah I know that much, if no RGB I'll prob go with those arctics

stoic island
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nah

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RGB takes costs to implement

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and it affects performance

rancid lodge
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I can get the 5 pack for 24 USD cause of amazon prime lol

stoic island
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and it affects the frame of the fan, therefore requiring redesigns

scenic turret
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Yea ik

rich void
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Yeah, I'd rather see fan manufacturer's just focus on quality.

scenic turret
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But hey there's always innovation

scenic plaza
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yup

stoic island
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unless we can make rgb take wireless power

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there has to be compromises to integrate them on the fan

scenic turret
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Always sitting at 14gb-18gb of usage these days. The amount of stuff I need running for school

stoic island
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@scenic turret rammap time

scenic turret
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I went back to 3600mhz

balmy patio
scenic turret
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Didn't want to spend a whole day overclocking

scenic plaza
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3600 mhz is the sweet spot

rancid lodge
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but with my big Lian Li O11D XL I was hoping there'd be some ~70-80 dollar 4 packs of RGB fans

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that aren't crap

scenic turret
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I went up to 4000mhz then declocked to 3733 and then back to 3600

scenic plaza
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why?

scenic turret
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All stable, just need to mess with FLCK

scenic plaza
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ok

stoic island
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loosen timings or no

scenic turret
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and that too

rancid lodge
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I'll try overclocking my 3600 CL16 to 3733 if it helps my 5900x lol

scenic turret
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All takes time. Still trying to get used to overclocking on Ryzen

rancid lodge
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Never overclocked anything though, not my first build but it's my first build I'll overclock

scenic plaza
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same im scared to build my first pc

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hopefully it goes well

rancid lodge
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but yeah I'll prob go with those arctics if there aren't any decent RGB fans that aren't ultra expensive

scenic plaza
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try corsair LL120's

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those are rgb

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but expensive

rancid lodge
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how much per unit

scenic turret
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Tip: DO NOT build on carpets, please use a table

scenic plaza
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ok

severe axle
scenic plaza
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id even have carpet in my house lol

scenic turret
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The amount of times I've seen that scares the hell out of me

rancid lodge
severe axle
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its 120~ for a 3 pack that includes a hub

balmy patio
rancid lodge
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40 bucks per is a bit expensive

balmy patio
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rgb is rgb

scenic plaza
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yea

rancid lodge
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yeah

balmy patio
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it's gonna be expensive

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or cheap poo

scenic turret
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RGB always a premium feature

scenic plaza
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for 6 its 240 bucks

rancid lodge
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yikes

scenic turret
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Gotta replace my stock intake fans with Lian Li Uni

rich void
scenic plaza
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what happens if you build on carpet?

scenic turret
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Carpet=static electricity, potentially can fry components

rich void
balmy patio
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if you're not grounded then boom

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rip your components that aren't protected

scenic plaza
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ok

scenic turret
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I've seen some people do it on the redditPC server and ended up with MOBO returns

scenic plaza
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LOL

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really?

scenic turret
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Just take precautions, everything should go fine

scenic plaza
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ok

severe axle
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scenic plaza
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just scared to put the wires in

scenic turret
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Yea alot of hardware can take some static, but its better to be safe than sorry

scenic plaza
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yup

rich void
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Better to be careful than get unlucky and kill or damage a component

rancid lodge
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might just not go with four fans and get the ll120s, recommended airflow setup is three side fans and one back exhaust but do I realllllly need all three on the side lol

balmy patio
rich helm
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I used to do grounding but I usually just be careful

scenic plaza
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ok imma go eat lunch cya guys in a bit

scenic turret
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I even have three antistatic wristbands, but I rarely used them

rich helm
scenic turret
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Thats taken since I've build a few PCs

balmy patio
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i greatly dislike antistatic wristbands

scenic turret
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Ik same

balmy patio
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so annoying and you forget you have them so you end up doing something you regret

rich helm
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I usually just put a psu plugged in on table and touch occasionally

balmy patio
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the verge dude had a cool wireless anti static band tho

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wish i had that

scenic turret
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I do the same nowadays, PSU is a great grounding point

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Beginners on the other hand just need to be more careful than us experienced builders

rich void
# balmy patio i see your point there, but tbh i'd rather have companies create fans that compe...

What? In price/perf competition the second company is winning. Same quality at a better price from another company forces the company with the more expensive product to find ways to reduce prices while maintaining quality. Currently my impression is the market is much more about what is shinier basically, companies are competing more on how much rgb they can squeeze into a fan and how much "gamer" branding they can do

balmy patio
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exactly

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sometimes tho you gotta compromise quality for looks so eh it's not that bad

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and once you make it look good and you don't poo out on quality, things get expensive

rich void
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I don't personally find looks to be important in a fan

balmy patio
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some people do

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heck some people don't even care if they have a 9100f rx580 system, if it looks good then their satisfied

rich void
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Yeah, clearly. People prioritize form over function a LOT in the tech space unfortunately

balmy patio
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yeah smh

rich void
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Like the closed front panel glass box case designs

balmy patio
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literal hotbox

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and then they set all their fans as exhaust to make it look better smh

scenic plaza
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hi

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what time do you think amd will restock 6800xt

desert gulch
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Amd gpu stock isn't great

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They hardly restock lol

scenic plaza
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like from amd direct

desert gulch
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Idk

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Doubt they'll tell anyone

scenic plaza
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they have at msrp

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$650

little leaf
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There are stock trackers

rich void
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Amd often releases stock on their website on Thursdays

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Like 9 to noon est I think, usually around 11

scenic plaza
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ok

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is 6800 xt worth tho do you think

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there is 6800xt on best buy for 650 but sold out should i camp amd or bb

rich void
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The prices on reference cards, which are the only ones sold out of amd.com, are fine imo. If you don't care about ray tracing, dlss, or NVENC a 6800 or 6800xt is pretty good.

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I'd try to camp both BB and amd

scenic plaza
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ok but do you think it will perform good in gaming? the 6800 xt i mean

rich void
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Yeah it will.

scenic plaza
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ok

wanton cliff
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AMD website the only good place to get GPU

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only place where normal seller price isnt 2x MSRP

rancid lodge
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These are looking like my best option as far as availability and price so I'm hoping someone has input on performance

frozen junco
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Yes they would

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As long as it is a Corsair product is with rgb it syncs

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I think I have those same fans and they sync for me

rancid lodge
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sounds good, also my MB has a bit of RGB (it's asus so it's aura sync), how hard would it be to get that working with icue?

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not too bothered if it doesn't work with icue

frozen junco
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I am not sure I don’t have experience with trying to mix aura and I cue

rancid lodge
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Alr, I have no experience with ARGB lol so ig I'll figure it out later

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CPU's coming friday so if I order these fans today I can prob get them when the CPU comes

frozen junco
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5900x is not easy to cool but a few missing case fans won’t be a huge deal

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Just make sure you have a good psu

rancid lodge
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Yeah

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oh also, just want to make sure but they should mount on my Lian Li O11-D XL right?

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going for one back exhaust and three side.

balmy patio
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if you have four fans i'd rather go 2 bottom intake and 2 top exhaust

desert gulch
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yeah you want airflow to be somewhat even

rancid lodge
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Maybe, going top with the AIO though

balmy patio
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and only having fans on the side isn't the greatest tbh

desert gulch
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slight intake if i had to go heavier on one

ancient wraith
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guys im having ghosting but its not my monitor

rancid lodge
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watched a gamer's nexus vid on the case and three side and one exhaust with 360mm AIO top was best airflow config by a few degrees Celsius

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But yeah the fans should mount on it right?

balmy patio
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yeah it's got mounting holes

rancid lodge
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yeah those uh

balmy patio
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those oval holes

rancid lodge
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tapered rectangles

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yeah, I have fans now from my current PC leftover but they do not mount

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alright thanks, I'll be ordering a three pack and a one pack of those now lol.

ancient wraith
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guys im having ghosting but its not my monitor

rancid lodge
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one pack says it'll come next week though, one missing fan shouldn't be too bad though

hollow nebula
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Anyone know a 1500 budget pc for gaming

balmy patio
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i can make one rq

hollow nebula
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Ok

balmy patio
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anything you want in particular?

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or just for game

hollow nebula
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Just for game

balmy patio
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ight

hollow nebula
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Thanks

rich helm
rancid lodge
#

with aurasync?

rich helm
#

Yes

#

Wait maybe

#

Sometimes

severe axle
#

icue works with asus/nvidia fe

rich helm
#

Doesn’t work with mystic light but

rancid lodge
#

eh it's fine if it doesn't, the MB only has a small bit of RGB

rich helm
#

Might work with asus

rancid lodge
#

yeah it's a x570, tuf gaming pro wifi

#

I'll see friday ig

rancid lodge
#

works with the plus so it'll work with the pro

#

nice.

#

alright, thanks guys.

scenic plaza
#

i have a question does your mobo need wifi to connect to internet?

rancid lodge
#

yes, wifi or Ethernet

#

it will always come with at least ethernet

wanton cliff
scenic plaza
#

ok so should i connect the wifi antenna that came with my mobo to the side of it?

wanton cliff
#

WiFi is just for wireless connection

rancid lodge
#

yes, even if you aren't using the wifi

#

WiFi is always a good backup

wanton cliff
#

why?

#

just taking up a PCIe slot

rancid lodge
#

well, let's say I move my PC too far away from a ethernet wall port

scenic plaza
#

ok so i dont need the antenna correct?

wanton cliff
#

correct

#

if you are using ethernet

rancid lodge
#

and need to get dirty and install a new one in the wall nearby

scenic plaza
#

ok thanks i appreciate it

rancid lodge
#

WiFi works as a temp

balmy patio
hollow nebula
#

Ok thanks I will take a look

scenic plaza
#

maybe add a hard drive for extra storage

muted patio
#

3080? Bit overkill

worn wave
#

2tb WD Blue CMR

wanton cliff
hollow nebula
#

Wow not bad

rancid lodge
#

I'm getting nicer fans, and in doing so sacrificing (for now) more storage that I desperately need

muted patio
scenic plaza
#

oh ok

muted patio
#

Take ram down to 16 gigs and get a 3070 or somethin

hollow nebula
rancid lodge
#

I can work off of 50 GB left on my SSD and HDD combined, for now...

muted patio
hollow nebula
scenic plaza
#

ill send my build one sec

hollow nebula
#

But what about the gpu

#

Where do I get that?

rancid lodge
#

you don't.

hollow nebula
#

So

rancid lodge
#

pray to the Nvidia gods

#

for more supply

hollow nebula
#

Oh no

rancid lodge
#

but as of now, GPUs are essentially impossible to get

#

3060ti /3070 are no exception whatsoever.

scenic plaza
muted patio
#

AMD cards are even worse

rancid lodge
#

Really?

scenic plaza
#

check my build

muted patio
#

Yes

rancid lodge
#

I thought Nvidia cards were the worst rn

#

as far as supply

scenic plaza
#

yea same

#

check my build pls

muted patio
#

AMD cards hardly ever come in stock

#

They're supplying consoles as well

rancid lodge
#

oh yeah the xbox X uses a AMD GPU doesn't it

muted patio
#

Ye

muted patio
#

3600 C16 ram

rancid lodge
#

yeah and I'd say xbox X is worse than 5000 series CPUs rn

scenic plaza
#

what

muted patio
#

Mushkin SSD

scenic plaza
#

ok

muted patio
#

Samsung is overpriced and Crucial is slow

scenic plaza
#

ok

#

wd black?

rancid lodge
#

vintage you'll be happy to know I'll be going with a mushkin pilot e next month

muted patio
#

2 TB for the price of your 1.5 TB

scenic plaza
#

are they good

#

like the spped

muted patio
#

That's the wrong one bRB lol

scenic plaza
#

ok

rancid lodge
#

the pilot e 2TB M.2 was on sale on newegg for like 212 USD

muted patio
#

This one

#

Faster than the Crucial, same as the Samsung for twice the storage, same price as samsung

scenic plaza
#

but its gen3

muted patio
#

Gen 4 is overpriced and you won't see a difference

rancid lodge
#

^

muted patio
#

Gen 4 is just silly right now

scenic plaza
#

oh will it still work in a gen 4 slot?

muted patio
#

Of course

rich helm
scenic plaza
#

ok thanks for suggestions!

rich helm
#

I have a 1400 dollar build but 10600k, 3060ti fe, and 16gb of ram

rancid lodge
#

yeah gen 4 rn isn't really worth it, in most cases you'll see minimal difference in performance

muted patio
#

Yo uwon't notice a difference in every day use for sure

rancid lodge
#

yeah

rich helm
#

I want to buy more storage lol already almost full on my 500gb

#

Trying to decide between hard drive or ssd for game drive

desert gulch
#

depends on budget

rich helm
#

I don’t have a huge library so learning more towards sata ssd because of no noise

desert gulch
#

mhm

muted patio
rancid lodge
#

Also I was working out airflow in my Lian Li O11D XL, and the gamer's nexus review puts 3 side one rear exhaust as the best config (having top be for CPU AIO or exhaust), but then I thought about orientation

#

The side fans would be intaking from right next to me

rich helm
rancid lodge
#

so they'd be taking in more dust as I kick more up when I move

#

so would it be better to intake from the bottom?

muted patio
rich helm
#

Mac repair guy tried to put a San disk sata ssd without dram in my Mac smh. Convinced him to get a decent sata ssd

balmy patio
#

smh

rancid lodge
#

with three pets dust is kinda more of a concern for me so I'm not sure where to put my fans.

rich helm
#

Also said he would charge like a 200 dollar more build fee to put in nvme vs sata drive like I know it’s more work but is it that much more work

rancid lodge
#

although pretty much every place I can mount a fan (excluding rear panel which is for exhaust anyway) has a magnetic dust filter so

balmy patio
#

was it a third party repair dude or the apple guys

rich helm
balmy patio
#

if it's the apple guys then i'm not surprised

rich helm
balmy patio
#

ahh

#

smh

#

do you have a macbook or just a mac

rich helm
#

The shop is more of a troubleshooting/helping old people use tech kinda place than a repair place but was listed as a mainly repair place on google .

#

So we didn’t know

rich helm
balmy patio
#

dang

#

surprised the fee was that much just for nvme

rich helm
#

But still

balmy patio
#

yeah

rich helm
#

Not that many cables/screws

balmy patio
#

i'd expect 50 bucks more

#

but i've never been inside an imac before so idk

rich helm
#

You have to unscrew 3 screws on either side for speakers, then hard drive cage, then a couple screws for like psu and then logic board

#

Some ribbon cables along the way

worn wave
#

Why don't you do it?

#

You seem to know how to

rich helm
worn wave
#

Ah okay

rich helm
#

Also my dad would rather have someone experienced do it

#

Idk why

balmy patio
#

smh

scenic plaza
#

wow 200 bucks

ancient wraith
#

is there a tool i should use too clean up files

#

like temp files and stuff

wanton cliff
#

one sec

scenic plaza
#

yea

scenic plaza
#

yup

wanton cliff
#

$104 on amazon

scenic plaza
#

really good

full atlas
#

How would that be better.

wanton cliff
#

better diagnostics and other motherboard things

#

like VRMs

full atlas
#

Same vrms

wanton cliff
#

We like it because of the diagnostic stuff

full atlas
#

Like debug leds or something?

wanton cliff
#

amongst other things

full atlas
#

Like?

#

The ac has debug leds just checked

#

I like how an 88$ budget board has debug leds and my 160$ board doesn’t Teehee

wanton cliff
#

lmao

#

whats the $160 board

full atlas
#

B550 aorus elite

wanton cliff
#

ofc its Aorus

full atlas
#

I got it for free tho that’s just what it costs

wanton cliff
#

h8 Aorus

#

why are you getting a new board if you already have one?

full atlas
#

Good vrms and ok features, then they skip debug leds, and 2 sata ports that would’ve completed the package

wanton cliff
#

i could kinda understand if you were going from B450 to B550 but B550 to lower end B550?

full atlas
wanton cliff
#

oh

full atlas
#

If I were to buy one for that price it would be the b450 a pro max, or the x470 gpm, but if someone needs WiFi it appears to be somewhat decent

wanton cliff
#

why would you buy a 400 series board in 2021?

full atlas
#

Bc I have a spare 2700xwazowskistare

wanton cliff
#

low end 500 series is almost always better than high end 400

wanton cliff
#

used B450-f time

full atlas
#

If it was a 3600 I would get this lol

full atlas
wanton cliff
#

NZXT Cringe

full atlas
#

I sold mine for 90$ a couple months back lol

wanton cliff
#

AGRGRGRGRG WHY ISNT MY AIO HERE YET

full atlas
#

What aio?

wanton cliff
#

EK 360mm

#

RGB

full atlas
#

Nice

#

I am chilling with a 24$ aioKEKF

desert gulch
#

huh

#

you deleted

full atlas
desert gulch
#

doesnt need to be good

#

for a 3600

full atlas
#

I would rather have something good anyways tho

desert gulch
#

whats the difference between that and a 80 dollar matx b550?

#

a 3600 cant rly take advantage of the features offered by more expensive boards

full atlas
#

Vrms, features, more ram slots, more pcie slots

desert gulch
#

ig but who needs more pcie slots

#

unless you gonna run sli

#

or a drive in a 16x slot lol

#

and 3600 wont rly cause a problem for vrms

#

idk

full atlas
#

Better mem oc

desert gulch
#

you gonna mine?

#

also for a 3600 not rly worth going over 3600mhz imo, in terms of value to performance

full atlas
#

Also more sata ports

full atlas
desert gulch
#

oh

full atlas
#

Bc I already have a board in my pc that my 3600 is in

#

The spare cpu I have is a 2700x

#

It’s funny that I have a 3600 on a mobo capable of running a 5950xcatvibe

desert gulch
#

same

#

i bought when b550 and x570 were few and far

full atlas
#

What board do you have?

desert gulch
#

so i have a x570 tuf wifi plus

#

got it ffor 160

full atlas
#

Nice, I have the b550 aorus elite

desert gulch
#

but i by no means take advantage of all its features

#

with this things vrms you could honestly run a 5950x on it

#

but these vrms dont rly matter for my 3600

full atlas
#

I got my mobo for 0$ lol

desert gulch
#

pog

full atlas
#

I did oc my ram for fun and got 3800 16-19-19-39 stable 1.4v

stoic island
#

Words to live by

scenic quiver
#

Man I love how some mom & pop stores are still open and functioning. I managed to find a used 600w used psu for $40.

wanton cliff
#

which PSU

rich void
#

used psu though 😫

pine stone
#

Bruh I’m not finding any Graphics card it’s really hard to find one even though I want to Micro Center there wws graphics card

#

No*

wanton cliff
#

correct

pine stone
#

Anyone tells me a decent graphics card

balmy patio
#

yeah that pretty much happens everywhere

wanton cliff
#

you are aware of current shortages, right?

pine stone
#

Suggest

balmy patio
#

a decent graphics card is a 1660s

pine stone
#

I just want to build my first pc 🄲🄲🄲

wanton cliff
balmy patio
#

lmao

#

it do be like that

wanton cliff
balmy patio
pine stone
wanton cliff
#

your best bet is the newegg shuffle

rich void
#

Can get a gt710 for a decent price, don't expect to play anything but retro games though

balmy patio
#

use an igpu or a 1030 as a placeholder for now

#

710 is meh

#

can't even run zoom

rich void
#

Can it even?

pine stone
#

I don’t think I canGet a graphics card in a decent price before 2023

wanton cliff
#

original skyrim, I think

rich void
#

When I got mine as a placeholder it didn't stack up to anything I had to play except very old games. Which is fine. Quake, Myth, etc. are all still really fun

pine stone
#

Can anyone tell me what should I do I just want to build a PC for Intel core I 51600K

rich void
pine stone
rich helm
pine stone
rich helm
wanton cliff
#

3060Ti time

rich helm
#

I got one

pine stone
rich helm
#

I have 10600k

rich helm
#

I had to sit on Best Buy and discord for many a morning to grab one

pine stone
balmy patio
#

sitting and waiting

#

having patience basically

pine stone
balmy patio
#

same

#

been trying to get my hands on a 3060ti but no luck

rich helm
#

Can’t just wait

balmy patio
#

don't they do them every other thursday?

rich helm
balmy patio
#

smh

#

i should start checking for bb drops tbh

pine stone
rich void
#

Make sure you enter the newegg shuffle every day they offer it, may as well get in the evga 3060ti queues even if you're unlikely to see a card from there since they're still on December notifies, watch BB drops, and get on a stock drop discord

unkempt knot
#

Hey can any1 help me?

desert gulch
#

ye

#

whats your question?

#

@unkempt knot

wanton cliff
#

tfw they just leave

desert gulch
#

@wanton cliff wdym they still here

drowsy finch
#

I don't want to build my own pc so I am customizing a pc on the CLX website, is CLX any good?

desert gulch
#

building pc isnt that difficult

wanton cliff
#

Redux better

desert gulch
#

takes around one hour for a first timer id say

wanton cliff
#

ah jeez server lag

wanton cliff
drowsy finch
#

getting parts isn't difficult, right

rancid lodge
#

Well uh

wanton cliff
#

uh

#

well

rancid lodge
#

GPUs...

desert gulch
#

gpus are

#

rn

wanton cliff
#

GPUs...

desert gulch
#

cpu is fine id say

rancid lodge
#

5000 series high ends are somewhat difficult

desert gulch
#

you got one

rancid lodge
#

And most GPUs are impossible

#

Yeah it took me a month lol

desert gulch
#

lol

#

still got one tho

rancid lodge
#

Yessir

static ravine
#

You just have to try

#

and you'd get a gpu

drowsy finch
#

does anyone know if CLX is atleast decent? Like any here has ever had one or does

rancid lodge
#

Arriving Friday AMD

#

Idk much about prebuilt quality, other than never buy anything dell cause dell sucks

drowsy finch
#

Yeah. I have an Alienware with a 1080 and i7 7700k rn

static ravine
#

jk

rancid lodge
#

Building your own is just a lot cheaper and it’s pretty rewarding

desert gulch
#

mhmm

static ravine
#

However if you really can't a prebuilt isnt always a terrible option

desert gulch
#

but some ppl do like that assurance itll work

#

and warranty

rancid lodge
#

Mhm

blazing aurora
#

right now prebuilts aren't too bad of an option

#

if you can find a well priced one

pine stone
#

Should I get this one? only gpu I can get in stock

#

I can change to 3060 ti later

muted patio
#

No

worn wave
#

Hell no lmao

#

That's a 2013 GPU

rich void
#

Pre-builts are a good way to get a good gpu relatively quickly right now

#

If you shop around and know enough (or are willing to learn enough) to fix any minor issues from transit/bad building (loose cables, turn on xmp, etc) they can be a really good option right now

desert gulch
#

mhmm

pine stone
#

Got you

#

But bro I’m so depressed I don’t Am I able to get one or not

#

The 3060

rich void
#

Have you already bought parts? Could go prebuilt. Also get in the evga queue, may take a while but at least get a spot. The 3060 queue has been moving relatively well so far

#

Could still be months and months for the 3060 though given we're now like 15 days out from launch day or whatever

pine stone
#

If I go for a pre-built am I able to play games like Pubg Fortnite

rich void
#

Yeah. It's a computer

pine stone
#

No like without no lag

#

And good FPS?

lyric thistle
#

350 for a 7990 isn't too great

rich void
#

Well no. No computer plays an online game with no lag

lyric thistle
#

100 dollars less maybe

rich void
#

But yes, you can get a prebuilt that will play games at high FPS, all depends on what is in the prebuilt

pine stone
desert gulch
#

prebuilt comes to your door assembled

#

all you gotta do is plug it in

rich void
#

A prebuilt pc is one that's already put together. Places like Cyberpower, iBuypower, Microcenter, etc. have prebuilt pcs

desert gulch
#

even walmart has their own

rich void
#

You have less choice in the parts going into a prebuilt system and have to pay for labor, but it can be a good option if it's priced reasonably well

pine stone
rich void
#

It all depends on what you want to buy

#

Could be like $1000, could be $4000

pine stone
#

Which one? I should go for?

desert gulch
#

id go second one

#

if looking for max performance

#

but lets start with your budget?

#

how much are you looking to spend?

pine stone
#

1300$

#

With monitor cuz didn’t have pc before

#

Can any one suggest me any good pre build pc?

rich void
#

I don't have a good handle on which brands offer good deals unfortunately. But it'd probably help if you let people know your budget and what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at

pine stone
ripe wedge
#

well actually'

#

the 3070 one seems fine but let me see if I can get it priced nice on this website

#

actually hold up

#

yeah nvm cant beat it

#

@pine stone go with that ABS one with the 3070

rigid vortex
#

hi all new here

#

i have a build what do you think so far there going in the k55

hollow grail
#

980 pro dumb

stray adder
#

does anyone know what to do if your computer is turning on but not giving out a signal output

hollow grail
#

if u want stupid sequentials maybe but like

#

3 people need dumb sequentials here

#

and one of them is me bean

pine stone
ripe wedge
#

oh sad

hollow grail
#

f

ripe wedge
#

then I can send something that might be in budget hold on

#

$1300 right?

#

oh with monitor included

#

eh

#

I cant get it in the range with build redux

#

pricing wack

pine stone
#

Only problem is the gpu

ripe wedge
#

yeah the pricings for gpus are wack

#

3060ti shouldnt be $700. its msrp is $400 lol

pine stone
ripe wedge
#

they arnt out of stcok

#

only 3080 and 3060

pine stone
#

They are I didn’t find one in new egg

#

Or Amazon

ripe wedge
#

yeah but this is on the build redux website

pine stone
hollow grail
#

no

ripe wedge
#

microcenter

#

maybe

pine stone
#

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh😵😵😵

#

I hate it

sharp tundra
#

So I just figured out why parts on pcpp don't show up sometimes, if you have certain parts selected, if others "are not compatible" then pcpp removes them from the search.šŸ˜‘šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

#

But like, the Eatx mobo I want will fit in a 5000d, so idk why it says it isn't compatible

pine stone
#

How bout this one

muted patio
#

used 1070 for $600, no

#

My RTX 2060 went for less than that

sharp tundra
#

Bruh, you could almost get a 3080 for that price

rich void
#

Any leads on pre-builts with lower markups for them Vintage?

rich void
hollow grail
#

at that point just buy gpu from lililabs

sharp tundra
rich void
#

Good luck getting one. Drops every two weeks in extremely high demand from one retailer. While most of the 3080s go for like $850+

sharp tundra
#

Well, be fast, don't buy from scalper sights, and know what you want

hollow grail
#

just quit gaming altogether

sharp tundra
#

Yes there is $850 3080s from other manufacturers, but that doesn't change the fact the FE is a $700 GPU

hollow grail
#

learn to host

lyric thistle
#

No more gaming

#

Gamers must go extinct

sharp tundra
#

Always gaming

#

Hosters must go extinct

#

Lol

rich void
sharp tundra
#

And you think spending nearly as much on a significantly lesser GPU is worth it?

#

No

#

Wait for a 3080, be happier with your purchase

#

If I bought a 1070 for $600 I would regret it the second I did it.

rich void
#

I wasn't arguing in favor of a $550 1070....

#

I was just saying 3080s are not generally going for close to $550.

sharp tundra
#

I didn't say they either, I said that you could almost get a 3080 for $600. Save up $100 more, and boom, you got a 3080, instead of that sub par 1070.

stoic island
sharp tundra
#

Maybe cause Nvidia actually makes the card, instead of sending the chips to manufactures and having them slap something together.

stoic island
#

We know it's every week/every other week on Tuesdays or Thursdays at best buy, and every time it does drop, it lasts 5+ minutes, much better than most other drops.

#

Record so far was lasting about 15 minutes for the fe 3080

sharp tundra
#

So, let's say I was going to get one, should I go in store? Or order online?

rich void
#

It's also very dependent on where you are. I've gotten into queue right at the start and never got the 2nd atc button

#

BB is online only

sharp tundra
#

Oh, dang

rich void
#

BB may drop tomorrow iirc

sharp tundra
#

And they're isn't a microcenter within a 1000 miles of me so I guys in person buying is out of the picture

rich void
#

9 to noon est typically

sharp tundra
#

@stoic island So, how important is ram timings for gaming? Let's say I was to get a 3600cl16 over a 4000cl15, obviously the 4000cl15 is better, but how useful would it actually be paired up with a 5800x and a 3080

muted patio
#

WOn't really show in games

#

Just rendering 3D things, videos, photos, etc

stoic island
#

yee

sharp tundra
#

So I would be fine getting the 3600cl16?

scenic quiver
#

I'm moments away from pulling the trigger on buying my upgrades. would like some reassurance that I'm doing this right. I'm buying this with the intention of updating the bios before i install my cpu, from what I can tell the MOBO supports this. I'm just nervous as crap because i've never done a bios update before. also with my issues with gigabyte PSU earlier, i'd like to know that the PSU i picked is decent and will last a while.. for the most part lol. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelsht/saved/rktmrH

sharp tundra
#

Whatere you using right now for cpu and gpu?

#

Just curious

scenic quiver
#

currently on a i5 4690k and a 2060super.

little osprey
#

which would be the best z390 micro atx to overclock like a i7-9600k

scenic quiver
#

i'm told the 2060s pairs well with the ryzen 5600x

#

ryzen 5 5600x*

lyric thistle
#

Might want something like an MP34 or an SN750 over a P1

scenic quiver
#

noted and updated to incorporate teh WD SN750.

lyric thistle
#

šŸ‘

muted patio
#

Mushkin Pilot E, $109 and just as fast. $30 cheaper than the SN750

#

$20 cheaper?

lyric thistle
#

Oo

muted patio
#

What's the SN750 now, $129?

scenic quiver
#

$134 atm from amazon

wanton cliff
#

Can I daisy chain 3 fans and a water block to a single DRGB header?

wanton cliff
#

Every time I ask, chat dies smh

muted patio
#

IDK, I don't do RGB lol

wanton cliff
muted patio
#

I know you can do 3-5 fans on a power header

sharp tundra
muted patio
#

IDK what amperage is rated for RGB/aRGB

muted patio
wanton cliff
#

Does RGB take up more power than a fan?

sharp tundra
#

That's not normal

wanton cliff
#

I paid extra for this thing

sharp tundra
#

Rgb is normal

wanton cliff
#

For the RGB

scenic quiver
#

depends on the RGB strip.

wanton cliff
#

Not strips

#

3 fans and a water block

#

And some messy cable management

muted patio
#

This is normal.

wanton cliff
#

Where tf are your cables

sharp tundra
#

Wtf is that

#

Delete it from existence

muted patio
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Clean, sleek build

wanton cliff
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But how tf are you so good at cable management???

muted patio
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OCD

wanton cliff
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I literally can only see your pump and 2 cables

muted patio
wanton cliff
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Plus mobo cables but those barely exist as it is

sharp tundra
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Bruh, you missing a cpu power cable

muted patio
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Bruh, I'm not

wanton cliff
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Kekw

sharp tundra
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That 4 pin

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Is empty

muted patio
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-_-