#building-and-recc-chat

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frozen junco
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Wait so my side monitors have g sync but my expensive “gaming” monitor does not

wanton cliff
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makes sense

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which monitor is it

frozen junco
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Samsung g5

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27 inch

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144hz

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1440p

wanton cliff
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it looks like it came out right before samsung started supporting g sync

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lol

frozen junco
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Noooooooooo

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Does not mater to me

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But funny

wanton cliff
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first samsung G-Sync monitor was the CRG5

frozen junco
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I got the monitor on for like 35% off so I am happy

wanton cliff
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I was without g-sync for a year with my 5700 XT and I was perfectly fine

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speaking of which, I havent set up any kind of g sync compatibility with my current monitor an card yet

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I should do that

pliant lake
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why wouldnt you?

wanton cliff
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forgot

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also I just realized that your PFP is that of Jeff The Killer

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god thats an old creepypasta

pliant lake
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lol

wanton cliff
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want to listen to Thanatos in .flac quality?

jaunty nacelle
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should i build a pc with a 1660s and buy geforce now or just build a pc with a 3060ti

potent portal
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If you can get it definitely worth the 3060ti

stoic island
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Geforce now sucks for fps games

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Or anything that requires you to have better reflexes than a snail

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:P

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Always native when possible

jaunty nacelle
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yall think cloud gaming will be the future or nah

wanton cliff
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its certainly possible it will be

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once faster internet speeds and lower latency become standard and ISPs stop screwing us over with a lack of new stuff and horrible deals and monopolies

potent portal
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So... never. At least not any time soon, as long as they continue making money.

near garden
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Where should I buy a windows key ?

wanton cliff
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ebay

potent portal
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ebay is fine

wanton cliff
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r/hardwareswap has some as well, despite the subreddit name

potent portal
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Good rated sellers of course

near garden
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Ok thanks :)

echo lark
wanton cliff
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lemme see

echo lark
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you already no

wanton cliff
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oh wait

echo lark
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you helped me haha

wanton cliff
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yeah

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i recommended this one lmao

echo lark
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yea lol

echo lark
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ok thanks

wanton cliff
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oh also

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idk why i didnt change this earlier

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10400f with a B560 instead of a 3600 and B550

pliant lake
wanton cliff
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possibly

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this was before the 3060's dropped

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like

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a day or two before

pliant lake
# echo lark ?

the list, it costs $50 more and it comes with a better GPU.

echo lark
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oh ok

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ill think about it

fossil halo
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6700xt next week 👀

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next to next*

remote kelp
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heaven just gave me this weird error on startup

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"d3d11render::d3d11render: Unknown NVidia GPU (not sure if space or line break here)
Direct3D11 error: device removed
D3D11Texture::create2D: can't create RG32F 960x540 2D texture
RenderManager::createTexture2D: can't create texture"

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ran furmark, instacrashed first time, fine second time, immediately swapped to heaven and that popped up

jagged ember
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Driver reinstall maybe?

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For the gpu

muted patio
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GPU crashed

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MSI shouldn't have sent it back to you

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It's broken

jagged ember
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O

remote kelp
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but then i run heaven again and it's fine apparently

hollow grail
jagged ember
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Ventus was also my mistake

hollow grail
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run occt and do the stability tests

jagged ember
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I can tell you I regret buying it

remote kelp
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occt gave like a ton of vram errors

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like 2mins into a 30min test

jagged ember
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Oh, occt

hollow grail
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lol

jagged ember
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Cool

hollow grail
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time to rma

remote kelp
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i literally just got it back from a shop rma .-.

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and apparently it was fine on their system

hollow grail
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time to rma and send them a screenshot

jagged ember
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Msi sad

hollow grail
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msi tried to deny my rma until i wrote a 3 page email with occt results

muted patio
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Artifacts, driver crashes, GPU crashes,

hollow grail
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and threatened to cancel business account

muted patio
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It's defective, shame on them

hollow grail
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and then sue

muted patio
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Yeah, OCCt freaked out too

jagged ember
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Kill.

hollow grail
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and yeah send them occt results

muted patio
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Green artifacts and crash

hollow grail
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and theyll rma it

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and replace

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speaking from experience they run super basic stress tests

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and if it passes a like

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60 second stress

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then its 100% perfect and ready to be sent back

remote kelp
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i rma'd mine with overclockers

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apparently they ran a day of apex legends and modern warfare

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and left it overnight on f1 2020 benchmark

muted patio
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wat

hollow grail
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imagine overclockers not using occt

muted patio
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That's.....not a test

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Grab the OCCT log file and sent it to them

remote kelp
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literally quoted from email "connected to OcUK test rig and run a day of Apex Legends, a day of Modern Warfare and left overnight running looped F1 2020 benchmark with no issues. all played at max settings 1440p 165hz running 461.40 drivers. returned no fault found"

muted patio
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PFFFFFF

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What kind of a test is that???

jagged ember
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LMAO

muted patio
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NEVER buying a product from them

jagged ember
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Ah yes, the most powerful test

hollow grail
muted patio
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IDK but that just cements it

hollow grail
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they literally just do subpar overclock and charge more if the card can hit it

jagged ember
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Yeah I regronk buying msi gpu

hollow grail
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theyre 100% by morons for morons

muted patio
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Regardless

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Get OCCT results

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and send that to them

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You literally artifacted in an OCCT test

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and crash all over the place

remote kelp
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where does occt save the test log?

muted patio
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Ah, I think you have to save it at the end of the test

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Not sure it does it automatically

remote kelp
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o-oh

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what if you never make it to the end of the test

hollow grail
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record it

muted patio
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Did it BSOD?

remote kelp
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no

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occt threw itself off a cliff

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after vram test

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the 3d test on 8 shader complexity kept cancelling itself after like less than 10 seconds

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reran it on 3 and it seemed to be doing okay(?)

muted patio
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I'm looking on my system for files

jagged ember
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I should try run occt

muted patio
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Give it a sec, I'll advise location if I find any

remote kelp
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okies

muted patio
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OCCT hates my CPU

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Like, I can prime 95 for hours on end

remote kelp
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cpu and memory test finished fine for me

muted patio
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But their CPU test poos the bed

remote kelp
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moment i hit 3d/vram tests

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"nope u aint finishing that"

muted patio
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I don't see any log files, lemme open app

remote kelp
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kay

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im gna try going through each test at 60mins each

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i wanna say it slightly improved after i made sure the psu cables clicked in but

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.-.

muted patio
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Hmmm, i don't see a save file option other than a screen shot button built in

remote kelp
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ah, yeah i spotted that

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maybe that's the only way to do it

muted patio
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"At the end of a test, you will be able to save a full graphical report of what happened during the test, for diagnostic purposes."

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Guess you gotta make it to the end

remote kelp
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ahh

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okay

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and if i dont i guess just ss and say it crashed

muted patio
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Or use phone

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to take a pic during test

remote kelp
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yeah

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tyty gna see what happens, will update later

muted patio
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SOUnds good! Make them RMA the card, this is unacceptable lol

potent portal
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Logitech wanted me to record a video of me clicking on their test page with my mouse and the screen visible so they could approve RMA, only for them to say they can't replace due to out of stock 🙃

sharp tundra
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Anyone wanna explain to me why the 3060 has more vram than a 3080?

muted patio
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192 bit bus

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It's slower ram

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smaller bus

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3080 has a wider bus

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Faster Vram

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Much faster

sharp tundra
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But 12GB?

muted patio
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3060 can't even use all 12 GB lol

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It's only 12 so people wouldn't complain about 6

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192 bit bus can only address 6 or 12 GB of VRAM

sharp tundra
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They could've made it 8

muted patio
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Nope

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The core is too cut down for a wider bus

sharp tundra
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I mean, 8gb with compatible bus

muted patio
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See above post

sharp tundra
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I see

muted patio
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Plus, GDR6X in the 3080 has way more bandwidth than the 3060

sharp tundra
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Well what does Nvidia think people are gonna be doing with it?

muted patio
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Buying it because they'll buy anything right now

sharp tundra
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It's supposed to be the new "Budget" GPU

muted patio
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The 3060 is honestly a joke

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20-30% less perf than the TI

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It should be 10-15% less

sharp tundra
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Wow

muted patio
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Ye

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It sucks TBH

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2060 super most days, Best days it's 2070 level

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It's trash and I'm an nVidia fan

sharp tundra
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I agree

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I don't understand what game Nvidia thinks their winning with releasing that crappy card

muted patio
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The money game

sharp tundra
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The money game that will then be lost when people stop buying those cards cause they realize how bad they are.

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Business logic I guess

muted patio
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People won't stop though

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They're desperate

sharp tundra
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Desperate for a card that can be outperformed by most if not all of last gens cards

potent portal
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Nvidia gets points for "trying to help" the current market

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That's all they really want, to look like they're trying

sharp tundra
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An attempt was made sticker has been awarded

potent portal
sharp tundra
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There you go

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Nvidia is a bunch of dummies, ngl

potent portal
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Not as big a bunch as Intel but they certainly could be playing the field better

sharp tundra
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You see, I wish corporations understood what it meant to be a customer, to be the one buying that product that the strived to get. Meanwhile, they laugh in your face for buying their most likely 3-4x price markup product, all in the name of an extra dollar to be had in their pockets

potent portal
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Spread it out, $10 markup for 100,000 units is an extra million profit

sharp tundra
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I mean, Nvidia has basically already said they don't care about their customers

iron berry
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Was doing a bios update through msi mystic light and now my sys and vga debug lights are solid white but nothing is happening anyone have any experience here?

potent portal
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Wait... what? BIOS update through Mystic Light?

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Never flash from outside BIOS if avoidable

iron berry
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Sorry not mystic light dragon center

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And the boot and vga are white

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I'm not sure if it's okay to do a power cycle at this point or not

potent portal
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Still, never flash outside BIOS

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Too many variables in an OS

iron berry
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Well yes but I've done it before with dragon center and hadn't had an issue

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I now will probably not do it again

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But am mostly just wondering if it's safe to power cycle my system or not because it's not reading my gpu or boot drive rn

potent portal
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It can take up to 15 minutes to flash, if that's what it's trying to do, so if it's still stuck there after about 15 minutes not much choice but to power cycle

iron berry
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I'll wait til midnight for me then and then do it

polar python
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sub $900 build

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thoughts ?

potent portal
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No hyper 212

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There's cheaper ones that perform much better

jagged ember
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Gammaxx 400

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Vetroo v2

potent portal
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No Seagate unless you like losing your data

jagged ember
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Yeah that too

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Wd pls

potent portal
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Other than that looks good

polar python
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i was looking at the l9i, fuma 2, and the black ridge

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thoughts on those ?

potent portal
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Noctua is good but pricy, fuma is overkill for your CPU and not worth the cost at all, and which black ridge?

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More than you need easily

iron berry
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I restarted and my boot and vga debugs are still one

potent portal
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Well, CMOS reset and cross your fingers it wasn't a bad flash

iron berry
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Now do I do that?

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Just pop it out or

potent portal
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Unplug, remove battery from motherboard, hold power button 60 seconds, wait a few more minutes, put battery back, and plug in

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Then cross your finger, toes, tongue, everything

iron berry
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Do I keep the psu plugged in

potent portal
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If it's a decent model you can leave it plugged in and switch the power switch on the back

iron berry
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Or just hold power with everything unplugged

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It's the msi x570 tomahawk

potent portal
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I meant the power supply lol

iron berry
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Oh gotcha

potent portal
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As long as it's not a cheapo garbage unit you can just flip the power switch

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I usually say unplug just in case

iron berry
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Um corsair 750 rmx

potent portal
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Lovely, I have the same one but 650, A tier, no worries with that one

polar python
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hmm

iron berry
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How do I pop the battery out?

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NVM got it

potent portal
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There's a little metal tab, press it with something like a screwdriver but be careful not to slip and damage the board

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Ok good

iron berry
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I mean considering I'f it's tanked

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It the msi softwares fault and mine and not just mine

potent portal
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True but idk if MSI will replace it, you'd have to send a support request to them to find out

iron berry
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Yeah which I'll do

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Cuz I have a couple of problems with this already

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Like my wifi antenna is lose

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The rbg can't be controlled on the mobo

potent portal
iron berry
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And now this from the software

potent portal
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Eesh. Yep you might be able to get RMA with all that going on.

remote kelp
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finished occt cpu test with no errors but i still cant find where to save a proper report, there's just the printscreen button

oh you gotta buy a personal license

iron berry
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@potent portal yeah it's under warranty and if I can choose for a refund or replacement i may just take a refund and jump ships

junior crescent
potent portal
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Honestly I would too, especially since the VRM on the MSI X570 boards doesn't have good reputation, let me double check if yours had the problem though

polar python
iron berry
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@potent portal i love you

potent portal
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Tomahawk was second gen X570 with fixed VRM, so your call

potent portal
iron berry
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I mean it's booted now

potent portal
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Well that's good, means it's not totally borked

iron berry
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I probably would have done this tomorrow just to do it but thank you i can actually sleep knowing it's not bonked

potent portal
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So now copy the BIOS file to a fat32 flash drive and go into BIOS to flash it there

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It'll be there for you tomorrow, no worries

iron berry
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Yeah I'll do that next time cuz the bios still took from the looks of it

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Nope it didn't well I think I just won't do that til a different day

hollow grail
potent portal
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At least p300 isn't Seagate

hollow grail
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true but the x300 is like

potent portal
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So much better

hollow grail
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a drive id happily use

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also the sn550 is kinda ehh

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id pay an extra $15 for p31 gold

wanton cliff
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Same

hollow grail
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sara go to bed

wanton cliff
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No

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In fact

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Screw it, imma go put on a dress

stoic island
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Bed

hollow grail
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dress is ok too i suppose

junior crescent
wanton cliff
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Why that one

junior crescent
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The Gpu??

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@wanton cliff

potent portal
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Ahhhh another Seagate

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Also Samsung evo not worth the price unless it's on sale lower than that

junior crescent
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What can i improve??

hollow grail
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hdd and ssd

wanton cliff
hollow grail
wanton cliff
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Done

hollow grail
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what parts u choose

wanton cliff
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P31 500gb and 2tb Blue

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P500a

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AMP 750w

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Also

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The cooler that you have is way overkill

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And kinda pricey

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I kept it because maybe you have some specific reason to keep it (just looks maybe?) but know that it is way more than what you need

potent portal
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Yeah no way a 65W CPU needs a 360 rad

desert gulch
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bruh aio not needed

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hyper 212 or sumthing imo

junior crescent
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Is there any other cpu i could get, since i have some money left over

potent portal
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NO

desert gulch
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no

potent portal
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Please don't recommend hyper 212

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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how

stoic island
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@wanton cliff
Dat blue is smr

desert gulch
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i know gammaxx 400 is better value

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but 212 is fine

wanton cliff
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Hmm?

potent portal
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Overpriced + bad performance = 212

desert gulch
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what price is overpriced?

wanton cliff
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Something I didn’t notice in my 2:00 AM stupor about a specific hard drive?

desert gulch
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bought my black 212 for 30 bucks

wanton cliff
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That’s too much

stoic island
desert gulch
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imo worth it

hollow grail
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so

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kek

desert gulch
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ik

potent portal
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$25 is the most you should spend on a good air cooler

stoic island
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The blue with -rz is nice cmr

desert gulch
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but they dont make a black gammax 400 do they?

stoic island
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@potent portal nah, 30 or 60$ imo

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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or d15

stoic island
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Se-224-xt and Fuma 2

desert gulch
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mugen 5

potent portal
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Not for a 65W 5600X

desert gulch
stoic island
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:p

desert gulch
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🤷‍♂️

potent portal
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I thought this whole time was about that build though, with the 5600X? It might have gotten more general than intended I guess

desert gulch
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you were talking to me tho

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and i dont have a 5600x

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you were talking about my 212

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soo

potent portal
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I'm getting my people mixed up

stoic island
desert gulch
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is it black?

potent portal
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Signs you need to sleep: (see above)

desert gulch
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lol

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imo if you looking for a black air cooler 212 seems best way to go

stoic island
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Depending on the model yea

desert gulch
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when it 30 bucks

stoic island
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Looks like the argb model is black

desert gulch
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yeah idk how much is it?

stoic island
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Gte also looks black, out of stock

desert gulch
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are they less than 212?

stoic island
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Can't find

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Mobile is bad

desert gulch
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yeah oos from what ive seen

stoic island
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Gamers Nexus time

desert gulch
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lol

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i love how the 212 black looks tbh

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looks so nice

brittle tinsel
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Arctic p14 or delta fans?

wanton cliff
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Arctic

brittle tinsel
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Their like server fans or something, extremely high rpm, but you need some sort of connected to the psu because it pulls 1.6 amps and mobos are 1.0 amp, I don’t know this for a fact, I’m just going off of specs and jaystwocents vid I watched

potent portal
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The one where he almost cut his finger on the fan even after it was almost done spinning down?

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Yeah those need to be direct to the PSU

little osprey
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lol

honest ferry
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hello

brittle tinsel
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Don’t understand what?

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They are pc fans

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That spin really really fast and can cut your finger

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Be nice

potent portal
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😛

honest ferry
potent portal
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Not if the fan is directly connected to the power supply

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Which these fans do have to be

brittle tinsel
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What cable do you need to link em to the psu?

honest ferry
potent portal
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Just molex

potent portal
brittle tinsel
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Alright, personal opinion fal would you go delta fan or Arctic p14

potent portal
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I like having all my fingers so arctic

honest ferry
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or get another fans

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and done

potent portal
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Poor solution for servers but ok

honest ferry
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🥲

brittle tinsel
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Will Arctic provide enough cooling because I thermal throttle a lot on my prebuilt system because it’s always running load, and I keep my room temp in the 40s F

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I’m not building a server fyi just a pc to handle gaming streaming, scripting, modeling and video editing

potent portal
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If you're streaming you don't want a loud fan running 100% constantly audible in the background

brittle tinsel
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I have a noise gate and a filter on the mic that helps a whole lot with my a/c setup

hollow grail
potent portal
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The server I assume a delta fan would be put in because not many would need that kind of power in a desktop, especially when they can get up to almost 70 dB

hollow grail
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theyre fun tho

potent portal
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Yes I like mincing carrots with my PC fan too

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Budget food processor

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@fierce hull Best place to ask about your build is here, only photos can be posted in #build-pics

fierce hull
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my bad still can u rate it please

jagged ember
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what budget?

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also need to see the prices for these parts

fierce hull
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all of this is 1185 $

jagged ember
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prices for each individual parts

potent portal
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Here's my take on a couple pieces:
H410 is dead, no upgrade path
Case has no airflow
RAM is literal trash 2666C19
Switch Seagate for Western Digital, your data will thank me
You don't need to buy the full retail Windows key, save some money and buy from ebay

jagged ember
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and how much you're willing to pay

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i agree with all the statements above

fierce hull
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i wanna be safe to buy in a shop windows 10

jagged ember
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you don't even need to buy windows key

potent portal
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Microsoft literally does not care, as long as you're not a business

jagged ember
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and buying from ebay has literally no risk

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unless you're a business yes

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then it's a problem

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maybe

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i like how we don't know how much he's willing to pay for a pc

potent portal
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Give us a budget and someone will throw together a much better build

jagged ember
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the only good thing is the cpu

potent portal
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I know you said all this was $1185 but what's the most you can spend?

jagged ember
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and maybe the 2.5 inch ssd

fierce hull
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`1200

potent portal
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Yeah the SSD is ok for entry level, can add M.2 later

fierce hull
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any body here could help me i would share a screen

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in a private call

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??

potent portal
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Great list there ⬇️ , as long as you can get GPU under $400

jagged ember
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and cheaper psu

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i like this one better

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chonkier cooler for the intel

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cheaper psu

potent portal
uncut pelican
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Hello

storm flicker
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is there anyone that can help with a mobo issue?

gusty pasture
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i can try

storm flicker
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so i have nothing but my psu connected to my mobo and if i were to turn it on the mobo should be on right?

worn wave
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In theory yes

gusty pasture
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depends

worn wave
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Does it have RGB on the motherboard

gusty pasture
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mobo?

storm flicker
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yea it’s a x570 aorus elite

gusty pasture
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is ur 8/4 pin and your 24 pin connected to you mb

worn wave
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Aslong as some sort of lights turn on, then it most likely works

storm flicker
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it just flashes on and then it’s off /:

gusty pasture
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OH!!!!!

worn wave
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Then it probably works fine

gusty pasture
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how re u turning it on?

worn wave
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It's better to wait until you have CPU and RAM and a GPU to test it properly though

gusty pasture
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funny story i had the exact same problem lol

worn wave
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He's not having a problem?

storm flicker
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i had the cpu and ram on but it didn’t do much

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did the same

gusty pasture
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it shoud turn on

worn wave
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Did you have a GPU in

storm flicker
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no

worn wave
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Try that

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Sometimes motherboards wont boot headless

gusty pasture
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well i had the same problem and once i figured it out i had blown my mobo and my psu up

worn wave
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I doubt that's the problem if it's actually getting power

gusty pasture
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but it did what was happening to him

worn wave
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If the motherboard is getting power and the PSU is giving power, then it's most likely fine

gusty pasture
#

turned on for 1/2 sec then off

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i think i blew a few capacitors

worn wave
#

Do you have the 8 pin CPU plugged in

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Do you have any sort of GPU you can put in to test it

storm flicker
#

no i don’t have any gpu at the moment i should in a day or two but i have the eight and twenty four pin plugged in

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i removed the ram and cpu jus to see the mobo and it’s still the same

worn wave
#

I would wait until you get the GPU then

storm flicker
#

alright thanks

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and if the gpu doesn’t help is it just the mobo you’d think?

gusty pasture
#

YEP

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oops

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srry caps was on

storm flicker
#

@gusty pasture what was ur solution for this problem?

gusty pasture
#

i just said that i had a problem like this

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i was ocing and i blew a few capacitors in my mobo and psu

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i dont know if this is ur problem

worn wave
#

I don't think you did

gusty pasture
#

but you never know

worn wave
#

You don't just blow capacitors like that

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That's not how it works

gusty pasture
#

welll

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why else would it turn on and then off

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and i had to turn the psu off then on again

worn wave
#

Other reasons,

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Probably had a grounding issue

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Capacitors don't just blow up anymore,

gusty pasture
#

i tried a different psu and mobo still didnt work

worn wave
#

Maybe 15 years ago but not anymore

gusty pasture
#

it was from 2008

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yes it did

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it had an amd phenom ii x2 550

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i swapped it for an amd phenom ii x4 and it blew

storm flicker
#

idkk im still learning obviously 😂 but for now i shall wait for thy gpu, thank you!

honest ferry
#

😀 +

fresh shard
#

Hello, I was wondering if New Egg builds a PC to my specifications?

prime plover
#

Yesterday I finished building my PC, and it can open my web browser in real time! 😆

prime plover
#

Building your own PC takes more time, and makes you really learn the parts of your computer but it could end up saving you money and being customized towards what you want with it.

fresh shard
#

Thank you, CausticBanjo247. I will try to build it my self. I have never built one before and want to learn how.

prime plover
#

@storm flicker what is your problem with your motherboard?

urban mountain
#

Do you guys think I should build a pc or get a prebuilt because of the graphics card prices

#

I don’t have a very high budget

hazy rune
#

Prebuilt if you want it in the next year

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Unless you have a microcenter nearby

pine stone
#

Hey 👋 I’m new here .Can anyone please help me building a gaming pc?Its my first time building

muted patio
#

budget?

pine stone
#

1200

frank stirrup
uncut pelican
#

Ooo fun

pine stone
frank stirrup
uncut pelican
#

I suggest a 5 3600x or 7 3700x

urban mountain
#

Ok thanks

pine stone
#

Guys?

frank stirrup
pine stone
frank stirrup
#

How important is upgradability and overclocking to you?

#

@pine stone

pine stone
#

Yeah

frank stirrup
#

Also is wifi important to u or are you gonna run ethernet?

pine stone
fierce hull
#

Is a g skill 16gb 3000mhz good for budget ?

uncut pelican
fierce hull
#

Mhhh

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135 $

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No wait

#

100 $

muted patio
#

No

uncut pelican
#

Nope

fierce hull
#

Why

muted patio
#

Crucial ballistix 16 GB is $80

uncut pelican
muted patio
#

and faster

uncut pelican
#

880...

muted patio
fierce hull
#

Nobody is gonna buy a 16gb of ram for 880

muted patio
#

Typo

uncut pelican
muted patio
#

Nah, $80

#

ballistix 3600 C16 is $81 right now

uncut pelican
#

Oh

#

Thats a decent deal

muted patio
#

$86 max

fierce hull
#

What about Corsair 16gb 3000mhz

muted patio
#

For what board and CPU?

#

Corsair is meh

uncut pelican
fierce hull
#

Z370

muted patio
#

What CPU?

uncut pelican
#

I like my lpx ram

fierce hull
#

Intel i510400f

muted patio
#

wat

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10400F can' tbe used on Z370

#

O.o

fierce hull
#

Yes

#

Bro its for 10 th gen cpus

muted patio
#

Bro wrong socket

#

Z370 is 1151

pine stone
#

@uncut pelican did you find best set up for me?

muted patio
#

10400F is LGA 1200

muted patio
#

GPU will be hard to get right now though

#

Rocco, feel free to edit

fierce hull
#

By gigabyte and it also supports 10 gen as the machanic told me

muted patio
#

WHoever told you that is wrong

#

That's Intel 8th gen

fierce hull
#

No 9 and 10

muted patio
#

No

#

Completely wrong socket

#

won't work

#

period

#

With 10th gen intel

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Or 9th gen

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9000 series

pine stone
#

Hey what about a rayzen 5

still roostBOT
#
joe mama#6297 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

muted patio
#

Ryzen 5 will be pushing your budget with current GPU prices

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For intel 10400F get a B560 motherboard

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and 3200 mhz ram

uncut pelican
muted patio
fierce hull
#

F Got messed up sorry my bad I got a z470 m gigabyte

pine stone
muted patio
#

What is current GPU?

uncut pelican
#

Why do the m.2 and cooler hsve no price

fierce hull
#

3600x

muted patio
#

10400F beats the 3600x for less money on a B560 motherboard. NOt recommended

fierce hull
#

I got e z490 already sorry

#

With the rtx 3060 eagle

pine stone
frank stirrup
muted patio
frank stirrup
#

Its a 100 dollars over budget but a very nice pc

fierce hull
#

What series what comp

muted patio
fierce hull
#

I’m thinking to upg to intel i7 10700 f

frank stirrup
fierce hull
#

Not using k defently

muted patio
#

Well, you're not gonna OC an AMD very far, maybe 100-200 manually

#

Not worth

fierce hull
#

Maybe h

frank stirrup
muted patio
#

My 3700x won't even go above boost clocks

frank stirrup
#

not u

frank stirrup
#

So in a way im happy my cpu died

fierce hull
#

Whattt 4.35 ghz

muted patio
#

Try going above it

fierce hull
#

My i5 is max 3.5 ghz

frank stirrup
fierce hull
#

Well ya

frank stirrup
# muted patio Try going above it

I hit temp limits super easy so til i get a better cooler im not gonna do that but ive got an undervolt/overclock running so it keeps temps in the 70s under load

#

I would show u my profile but im in macos and the profile is on windows

#

my old cpu used to cap at 4.2ghz tho under single core so its very nais

#

4.35 all core is a massive improvement

fierce hull
#

My friend which almost wastef he’s entire pocket wanted to f buy an rtx 3090 with an intel 9 x series I told him it’s a pc for editing u idio t and he wanted a budget gaming pc he got out lucky

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By tha way how many tera flops does the amd 7 3700 has

fierce hull
#

Bro

frank stirrup
#

also stop evading the swear filter

fierce hull
#

He said first he wants a budget gaming pc not an editing pc

desert gulch
#

What budget?

fierce hull
#

Between 1000-1500

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Max 2000

desert gulch
#

That's a wide range

#

If budget you could go 10400f and 3060ti

fierce hull
#

I told him to take an i7 or Ryzen 9

desert gulch
#

Should put you a little over a grand

#

5600x and a 3070 also good pairing

fierce hull
#

Yah

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Or i7 9700 with 3070

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Or i9 10850

muted patio
#

9700 is meh

#

No hyperthreading

desert gulch
#

9700 not needed unless you need those extra cores

muted patio
#

Well, it doesn't have hyperthreading anyway

desert gulch
#

Also 10400f way better value

muted patio
#

WOuld avoid

#

Just get a 10600k

desert gulch
#

10850k on sale I think too

#

Used to be a bundle with a asus 490 for like 500 bucks

fierce hull
#

Ya

uncut pelican
#

Its happening guys

fierce hull
desert gulch
#

Huh?

fierce hull
#

For extra cores

desert gulch
#

He needs 8 cores?

fierce hull
#

not f only h

desert gulch
#

F just means no integrated graphics in cpu

fierce hull
#

Who gave me the roll of regular ?

#

I know

desert gulch
#

You unlocked it

#

By taking anough

#

You get xp every minute you say something

fierce hull
#

I want to take i7 10700h

uncut pelican
fierce hull
#

Got it cool

fierce hull
#

In the graphics that integrated in the cpu

pine stone
#

Gigabyte GeForceRTX 3060 is this good?

uncut pelican
#

But 3060 ti better

pine stone
fierce hull
#

Better also than the 2080 ti

muted patio
#

The only GOOD 3060 cards are the ones at $329. For anything else, go 3060TI

fierce hull
#

The rtx 3060 is good but not than rtx 2070 super or 2080 it’s a difference of 10-15 maybe 20 FPS

#

In all the games almost

#

But 3060 ti is the most suggested

pine stone
#

Ok what you guys think should I buy those parts online or from store or something like that?

muted patio
#

RTX3060 is 2060 Super level

fierce hull
#

Online stores it’s definitely out of stock

muted patio
#

MAYBE 2070 on a good day

fierce hull
#

Nah 3060 is as 2070

muted patio
#

Nah

#

Check benchmarks

fierce hull
#

Check it out in the test in YouTube

muted patio
#

I have

fierce hull
#

Preformance

pine stone
muted patio
#

The only time it hits 2070 levels is with RTX and DLSS on

fierce hull
#

I mean stores not online my bad

muted patio
pine stone
fierce hull
#

If you want a 144 hz cheap I got some not sure if they on stock

#

I got Msi view sonic aoc asus

#

Dell and some samsung

#

But what size u want

#

24 most suggested

pine stone
fierce hull
#

Ok so we got msi with g sync

#

Asus amd freesync but activating a g sync on a type of a monitor like this is pretty possible and I tried it it worked as expected

#

Amd freesync on asus view sonic and some aoc

visual dawn
#

hello guys!

pine stone
#

So Ryzen 5 3600x with Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 ti with ASUS TUF GAMING B450M-PLUS II AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX will be a good combo?

muted patio
#

Recommend Intel 10400F. beats the 3600x gaming performance

#

More FPS

fierce hull
#

Yes

uncut pelican
#

@fierce hull guess what

muted patio
#

less money

fierce hull
uncut pelican
#

Joe mama

fierce hull
#

Mhhh

uncut pelican
#

I had to

#

Im sorry

visual dawn
#

Hey vintage! My motherboard is possibly being shipped on monday! it's been a month since i ordered it. lol

pine stone
muted patio
#

If gaming, Intel

#

For a $1K budget, Intel is king

muted patio
#

For a $1200-$1500 budget, then maybe 5600X

pine stone
visual dawn
muted patio
#

Because they think AMD is better

#

But it depends on the budget

#

Dollar for Dollar, the Intel 10400F is a better value with more FPS

#

Than the 3600

pine stone
#

Oh thanks

uncut pelican
visual dawn
muted patio
#

Well, it depends on the price point

#

10400F beats 3600 but not 5600x

fierce hull
#

Intel is better in almost everything

visual dawn
visual dawn
fierce hull
#

Ahhhhh can’t wait to intel 11 gen cpus please don’t be trash

uncut pelican
#

Hopefully that happens soon

pine stone
#

Intel Core i5-10400F Comet Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz LGA 1200 65W OR Ryzen 5 3600x with Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 ti with ASUS TUF GAMING B450M-PLUS II AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX will be a good ?

fierce hull
#

No

#

No

#

No

#

No

uncut pelican
#

Don't spam

fierce hull
#

No comet lake

uncut pelican
#

Whats wrong with coment lake

muted patio
#

Nothing

#

10400F with a B560 motherboard and 3200mhz ram

fierce hull
#

Ohh got confused with coffee

muted patio
#

Excellent budget build

fierce hull
#

Might suggest rtx 2060 if theres any left on eBay or Amazon

muted patio
#

3060TI or bust. 3060 is 20-30% less performance. It's sad. 3060 isn't worth the money except the $329 MSRP ones.

#

So Zotac or EVGA 3060

pine stone
#

Ok then guys anyone can give me a list that parts I need to buy

fierce hull
#

Zotac

#

Evga only rtx 3080or 3090

pine stone
#

Pleasee

visual dawn
uncut pelican
#

What so you guys suggest I do with my 3060

visual dawn
fierce hull
#

Sell it maybe get more money and buy a ti vers

#

Tuf gaming or eagle

visual dawn
#

wait, what's wrong with it?

stoic island
#

@visual dawn a 4tb NVMe drive?

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Seems a bit... Excessive?

fierce hull
#

To much

pine stone
#

Which parts I need to buy ? Can I get a list that I can Search online about it please

stoic island
#

I mean, if you actually have an need for it, it's fine, but most people usually don't go past a 1tb NVMe drive

#

@pine stone need more info
Budget, when you're buying, what you're using it for, etc.

visual dawn
#

I kinda filled a 1 tb already. so was gonna go with at least 2 tb

fierce hull
stoic island
#

Uh

#

@fierce hull why a 2070

#

There's no good price for one even used

#

What

fierce hull
#

Faster than the 3060 12 gb

stoic island
#

@visual dawn for some reason the link for the board won't work for me, what board is it?

#

@fierce hull but that doesn't matter when it's ~500$ on the used market

#

Might as well go 3070 at that point :p

visual dawn
#

my mobo is ASRock Z590 Steel Legend WiFi 6E LGA 1200 Intel Z590 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

fierce hull
#

Good point

stoic island
#

That'll support NVMe drives

#

@fierce hull no reason to smh

pine stone
stoic island
#

Brand loyalty is crap

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Steel legend should be fine

fierce hull
visual dawn
stoic island
#

@visual dawn anyways, for a 2tb drive, I'd probably grab a pilot e 2tb

#

If you feel you really have a need for a 4tb NVMe drive, the first one will work fine, 400$ for 4tb sounds fair.

#

Tho I need to check something

muted patio
#

Well, last time RGB SSD's were a thing, they overheated and died

visual dawn
#

I've never had a computer with light in it. all of mine were sstore bought.

muted patio
#

Not sure I'd trust an RGB PCI-E 4.0 NVME to last

#

4.0 drives get hot as it is

stoic island
#

Note says "heatsink+rgb" on the mastersheet

#

Dunno

muted patio
#

It has a heatsink yeah

stoic island
#

(the one that overheated said overheats in the master sheet)

#

Oh well, ADATA is wacky

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Dunno what they've been doing to their other drives, but sx8200 pro has been an interesting journey of ADATA just swapping components for worse components again and again

muted patio
#

I wouldn't trust Adata period at this point for drives lul

stoic island
fierce hull
#

Y’all know what’s the best gpu ever

visual dawn
fierce hull
visual dawn
fierce hull
#

No

#

Cmon y’all guess

visual dawn
#

3090?

fierce hull
#

No

stoic island
#

Well... What cpu are you getting again?

fierce hull
stoic island
#

Because most Intel chips do have decent enough iGPUs, enough to beat a gt710 @visual dawn

fierce hull
#

Lol

#

First time intel beat a nvidia popular gpu

visual dawn
fierce hull
ruby ledge
#

can someone give me a parts list that has a budget of $2500
thanks, please @ me

fierce hull
#

Rtx 3080

#

Or

#

Radeon 6900xt

ruby ledge
#

3080

stoic island
#

Well, @visual dawn , does the chip have a f ending? Aka. 10900kf? If not, it has a good enough iGPU for a small while.

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Oh boy

fierce hull
#

Good cpu

stoic island
#

10900k has an iGPU, 10900kf doesn't

#

You'd have to get something temporary

fierce hull
#

Imagine a pc with no igpu and gpu

visual dawn
#

Yea, i really didn't know how bad the gpu crisis was when i bought off this.

ruby ledge
#

do you know a good build for $2500?
@stoic island assuming i could get everything for msrp

stoic island
#

My wifi is being wacky, I can make one in a moment

ruby ledge
#

okay, thnaks

#

please @ me when you do it

stoic island
#

@ruby ledge alright, what are you using it for?

#

And also, need anything else in for the budget?

ruby ledge
#

I'm going to game and game development

#

@stoic island

visual dawn
#

is there a way to search only what is in stock on NewEgg? every gpu is out of stock or imported

stoic island
#

Gotcha

#

Gonna assume something like Unity

ruby ledge
#

Yeah

#

Like unity, unreal engine, godot etc

stoic island
ruby ledge
#

Okay, thanks.

stoic island
#

Adjustments can also be made to storage if you need more, and other parts if you want to, there's enough budget left.

ruby ledge
#

Do you think I should get 64 gigs of ram

static ravine
stoic island
#

@static ravine game dev, so it depends on them, they could have an use for it

stoic island
#

(aka, they might not know)

static ravine
#

if you're a game dev 64gb would make sense

muted patio
stoic island
#

@ruby ledge This is what puget system says about memory using Unity, depending on how you think your work will align with it

#

HD Sentinel

muted patio
#

thx

stoic island
#

lili kept recommending it

ruby ledge
#

4x16?

stoic island
#

4x16 will work nicely for now

ruby ledge
#

also, whats the difference between a crucial p1 and a p2

visual dawn
ruby ledge
#

when would you pick one over the other

stoic island
#

heck no, if you're refering to crysis 3

#

@ruby ledge neither, I'd grab a pilot e

stoic island
#

P1 and P2 are both relatively slow, relatively small cache

#

don't even think about using a gt1030 for crysis remastered

muted patio
#

Even old Crysis

#

2 GB VRAM

stoic island
#

Because mininum specs for crysis remastered is 1050ti

#

so yea

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Sadly nothing that's in stock can actually provide a decent experience

#

@visual dawn how much can you spend on a tempoary gpu?

visual dawn
stoic island
#

3090 doesn't really make any sense for gaming, so I'd say aim for a 3080 for the final GPU

#

I'm gonna check around for gpus rq

ruby ledge
#

What are the read and write speeds for the pilot e?

visual dawn
muted patio
stoic island
#

@ruby ledge 3500/3000

#

@visual dawn I mean, just getting a 10900k instead of a 10900kf will work, but a bit annoying if you have to go through returns, and an iGPU is NOT going to be enough for crysis remastered

#

Crysis remastered is extremely demanding

#

iGPU = small integrated gpu that's on the CPU by the way

visual dawn
#

I have a game code i got with the cpu for crysis. don't even have a mobo yet

visual dawn
stoic island
#

Sadly no

tame reef
#

Best Aio for a i9 9900k ??

muted patio
#

Ek 240mm for RGB, Arctic Freezer II for black.

tame reef
#

is it better thasn the nzxt kraken

muted patio
tame reef
#

only two fans ?

stoic island
#

Well, gt 1030 will be more convient

#

but 115$ for one...

muted patio
#

hard pass

#

i think with intel iGPU you can even go 4 GB VRAM

#

Still, I wouldn't GT1030 for games

stoic island
#

@muted patio any ideas on unconventional places you might be able to get like a refurb gpu

muted patio
#

Nope. Nothing other than local markets

#

Craigslist, offerup, FB marketplace, etc

visual dawn
#

my local store can't even find anything

stoic island
#

sad

visual dawn
#

I'm quite leery of craiglist and FB marketplace. I'm quite concerned about my friend just bought one and hasn't tried it yet. (he's the opposite of me, has the 2080 ti gpu and no computer)

stoic island
#

Could borrow it for a moment, to test if it works, and you can use it tempoarily

visual dawn
#

once i get my mobo I'll offer that. that's a good idea.

pine stone
#

How is core I 7? For gaming?

stoic island
#

Depends heavily on budget and situation

#

10700k when your budget is 1500$+ is great

pine stone
#

No I was going for intel core I5/Ryzen 5 3600 or 5 3600 x

#

For 1200$ setup

stoic island
#

I'd say a 10600k+z490+3060ti if it fits, or a 10400f+b560+3070 build if that fits

severe axle
#

wouldn't that be a 5600x/3070?

stoic island
#

Assuming gpu at msrp

severe axle
#

or maybe its more of a $1250

stoic island
#

Eh, after price of every other thing rising, I'm gonna leave some headroom

#

Gammaxx 400 as the cooler, a 1tb pilot e for storage, a mx330-g or metallicgear neo air for the case, and a Segotep 650w psu

brittle tinsel
#

Will over clocking a 5900x to 5.0 be a strain or cause unstable cooling

#

?

#

Wait, wrong cpu?

#

Ok nevermind I was thinking intel 10900k instead

#

Now the processor I have now runs 3.4 but is terrible for gaming, will the 5900x at 3.7 be better for gaming than my current one?

muted patio
#

What is current one?

brittle tinsel
#

I5 3570, I get 40 FPS in warzone and Cold War

muted patio
#

Absolutely

#

BUt do you need that many cores?

brittle tinsel
#

Yes, I do a lot of other cpu heavy tasks when I’m not gaming

muted patio
#

Yep, it'll be great then.

brittle tinsel
#

But I’ve heard speed beats other aspects in a cpu for gaming but 5900x is only .3mhz faster than mine

muted patio
#

It's not just speed

#

It's also IPC

#

Instructions per clock

#

how much work the CPU does in the same amount of time

#

You're also not factoring boost clocks

brittle tinsel
#

Well I wasn’t counting boost clock because my current cpu is not over clockable and I don’t plan on boosting the 5900x because it’s my first pc build and first time digging into these specs so I want to have the best chance of it lasting, plus if base clock gets the work done I’m golden

muted patio
#

5900x auto boosts

#

It's not an option

brittle tinsel
#

?

#

So it just ramps to max speeds?

muted patio
#

CPu just auto boosts to the clocks

#

So do the new Intels

#

It's just a thing now

visual dawn
#

I'm finding alot of 3070s so I'm concerned about being ripped off

#

all of the 3070s want 3080s

#

um, is anyone here?

#

hey vintage!

muted patio
#

not sure what the question is? Only way to get a GPU right now is second hand market or wait for things to come in stock

visual dawn
#

yes, how does one know if the gpu is functional before purchasing on a second hand market? is there some way to test it? I just found a few gpus. plus why are people getting rig of 3070s and wanting 3080s?

#

rid*

#

like my mother asked, how do i know if the gpu will last more than a few minutes

muted patio
#

You don't, it's a risk.

#

Just like buying from Ebay is a risk

#

Trading for mining most likely

visual dawn
#

eh, then it could already be dead then if they are mining with it.

muted patio
#

Nah

#

mining doesn't kill GPU's like people think it does

visual dawn
#

thought running the gpu for 24 hours, 7 days a week on full power or overclocking would kill the gpu?

muted patio
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they don't run at full power for mining though

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most are undervolted

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etc

stoic island
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And also, it just degrades performance over time, not kill the card

muted patio
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It's no worse for the card than gaming on it