#building-and-recc-chat

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austere wagon
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alright ima run a test

muted patio
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If not, we start going through software

austere wagon
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cool

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ill check now

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I’ve run the game that seems to cause all the issues and it’s running fine

muted patio
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That's a good start

austere wagon
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No crashes yeeeet

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Damnit

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I jinxed it

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Oo wait new thing

muted patio
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uh

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what power supply is this??

austere wagon
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Ummm lemme find the link

muted patio
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Oh my

austere wagon
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That doesn’t seem good

muted patio
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Well, I think we found our problem

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Despite being Seasonic brand, that's a bad PSU

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And known to cause issues

austere wagon
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Of course it is

muted patio
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And given the issue you just posted a pic of in here

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Although

austere wagon
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Funnnn

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I don’t have a PCI power cable im pretty sure

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My thing needed like an adapter

muted patio
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wait wat?

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No, that has a PCI-E power cable

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What power slots does your 1070TI have

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8 or 6 pin?

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The power cables are labeled VGA

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not PCI-E

austere wagon
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I believe it’s an 8

muted patio
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Yeah, it has that

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VGA

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It's a 6+2 pin

austere wagon
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Yeah

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Yeah

muted patio
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Problem is, those PSU's don't have the proper protections

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So a good wattage hit will shut them down

austere wagon
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Ah

muted patio
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Like you fire up a game and the GPU draws a big l oad

austere wagon
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Yeah

muted patio
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So, any chance you can return it? how long ago did you buy it?

austere wagon
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I think it’s over 30 days

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Can you buy power supplies from Best Buy because I may run out there and get a different one

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What do you recommend

muted patio
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best buy tends to only have expensive Corsair PSU's that are decent

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This shows as One Day Prime for me

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And it's a nice unit

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Fully modular for only a few bucks more than what you paid

little osprey
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They have seasonic focus gold actually

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Best buy

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Then RM850x thats like 145

austere wagon
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Ight yeah sounds good

muted patio
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yeah but that Focus Gold is probably north of $100

austere wagon
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Yeah I don’t have that money atm I think I’ll get the link you got me and get it tomorrow I have that money

muted patio
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I would ask about returning the Seasonic also

novel mango
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Hello all

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I was hoping someone might be able to give me advice on building... something. not really sure what to call it

muted patio
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Ask away

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If you have a picture of it

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Feel free to DM it to me

novel mango
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Id like to build a system that well... is basically a server but allows me to have multiple VMs from it.

Like i want to have 2 -3 PCs and one Server, but i want the server to have all the GPU and CPU power..

Does that sound dumb... sounds possible.

muted patio
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Vm's for what?

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Like, game streaming?

novel mango
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i suppose. or work or w.e

muted patio
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Interesting and honestly not my cup of tea nor area of expertise

novel mango
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ty anyways.

muted patio
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Doesn't mean I can't find someone to help you

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stand by

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@sand falcon You do anything with servers or VM's?

sand falcon
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Yup, what's up?

muted patio
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See above please and thanks

novel mango
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i apologize if this request is silly.

muted patio
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It's not silly lol

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I just don't know enough about it

sand falcon
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So basically all compute power on the server, with a few remote stations that will connect to it?

vital scaffold
novel mango
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basically yes. Id like it to be possible to split its power between VMs. so like if i want a 3rd machine i just split the power a little more. 4th etc

muted patio
vital scaffold
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soo

stoic island
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Vintage you sure?

muted patio
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Bruh

vital scaffold
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what board should i use

muted patio
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I checked the spec page before I posted

stoic island
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I don't like the rest of the list anyways but

muted patio
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I always do

stoic island
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OOOO

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B450m pro4

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I thought it was b550m pro4

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lmao

sand falcon
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Cpu power would be pretty easy to divvy up like that, GPU would be a bit harder

muted patio
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IMO, Intel 10400 the way to go with that budget

sand falcon
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How far will the server and stations be from each other?

vital scaffold
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can u make a part list with that MB because im not really the best at computer knowledge

muted patio
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that power supply is a huge fat NO @vital scaffold

vital scaffold
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really

stoic island
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Do you already own the motherboard?

vital scaffold
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no

muted patio
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yes

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Aresgame is to be avoided for all things

novel mango
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i was thinking purchase a threadripper and NAS and whene ver i want to add another device, i just purchase another GPU

stoic island
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We'd change it up, by a lot then

vital scaffold
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so can some one make a new part lusr

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list

vital scaffold
stoic island
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Do you already own a 1660 super, or have somewhere you can get it from for 230$?

novel mango
sand falcon
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I would recommend against a nas for this system

vital scaffold
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ye

hollow grail
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tfw theyre describing how lililabs operates

hollow grail
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oh hi bob

sand falcon
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You might want to consider a xeon or epyc over a threadripper

hollow grail
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depends

sand falcon
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This sort of virtualization is still a bit sketchy on consumer ryzen

stoic island
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@muted patio Side note, B560 boards are avaliable on wegg now, with support for 10th gen :D

hollow grail
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i do that on consumer ryzen no issues

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what lol

stoic island
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doesn't show up on PCPP, but available on wegg from what I can tell

sand falcon
hollow grail
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i mean i do it differently but

novel mango
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@sand falcon

i would love to do more research but to be honest i have no idea what this build would be called? Any idea what i can google

hollow grail
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i have never had any issues

sand falcon
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It'll be KVM with direct pcie pass through

hollow grail
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solusvm moment

austere vale
novel mango
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? KVM doesn't sound like what i was thinking of

hollow grail
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kito explain what ur trying to do

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i run a business selling vms bean

novel mango
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Multiple computers in the house. All connecting to a server. This server handles the CPU and GPU for the unit.

lofty shell
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Can someone help me with ram config on msi bios?

stoic island
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Well, from what I can tell, it does somewhat sound like a KVM, with multiple stations passing through inputs to a main server

hollow grail
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so like

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you want a bunch of thin clients

muted patio
sand falcon
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Yup

hollow grail
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connected to a virtualization server

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look up proxmox

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and you can find thin clients easily

novel mango
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proxmox, ty i'll do research on that

hollow grail
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np

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thats all u need

sand falcon
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I don't even know if he needs thin clients

hollow grail
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well im saying if he wants to do a fresh deploy

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obviously whatever he has now can also be a thin client

novel mango
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just a couple laptops

sand falcon
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With the size of this system direct connection would be perfectly feasible

hollow grail
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i mean sorta

sand falcon
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Not sorta, totally

hollow grail
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yes but youd connect through a thin client

sand falcon
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What will the systems be used for @novel mango?

hollow grail
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if you did it right

novel mango
hollow grail
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i mean u can also direct connect if the server is gonna be super close

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like 20ish feet

sand falcon
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I'm thinking just plugging directly in

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Lower latency and lower cost that way

hollow grail
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how far do you plan to be from the host machine @novel mango

novel mango
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it could be in the same room. everything will be in the basement, but it would be cool if i could hook into it via my laptop from 2 floors up. but its not needed.

hollow grail
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cause u can run a vm

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pass ports through

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and then just plug into the ports you passed through

sand falcon
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Could use direct access downstairs, then thin connection upstairs

hollow grail
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and threadripper is fine for this

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yep

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honestly id say threadripper over epyc just because tr can boost higher

sand falcon
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A bit more complicated than is ideal, but would mean better latency downstairs

novel mango
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is threadripper to much?

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like could i get away with an i9 10th gen?

sand falcon
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How many systems do you want?

hollow grail
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depends how many vms u wanna run

novel mango
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2 at minimum. was hoping for 3 so i can play VR with a dedicated machine.

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4 if a guest comes over

little osprey
sand falcon
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Probably going to want more than an i9 then

hollow grail
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depends how many cores u want but id say 32c64t for that

little osprey
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Maybe replace MOther board?

hollow grail
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would be fun

sand falcon
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Minimum of 16c, preferably more

hollow grail
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yeah u want at the least

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32 threads

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64 threads superior tho

novel mango
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alright. i suppose getting the gear first would be step one.

Any suggestions on casing or RAM

sand falcon
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Probably a 4U rack

hollow grail
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rosewill makes some cute rackmount cases

sand falcon
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Ram, 128gb or so

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Quad channel

hollow grail
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generally 2gb per thread

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is the sweet spot

novel mango
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64 threads and 128gb of ram. nice ok

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geeze

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this is getting expensive

hollow grail
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virtualization isnt cheap

sand falcon
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Any more or less than 4 individual systems?

novel mango
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2 for sure. 3 if i can get a VR system. 4 to brag but thats about it

hollow grail
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honestly

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u dont wanna do vr like that

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lol

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and each vm would need its own gpu if you plan to game

novel mango
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tbh it sounds like it would be cheaper to just have 3 computers

sand falcon
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GPU is honestly going to be the hardest thing here

novel mango
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yeah ive been waiting but you all know that struggle

sand falcon
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Getting four will be hard

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Good news is you won't need four of the same exact card

novel mango
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hmm.. maybe i am making this more complicated than it needs to be

timid tree
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kjkk

sand falcon
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It's honestly not that bad

hollow grail
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yeah its not hard

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or even too expensive

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plus u learn cool stuff

sand falcon
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The question is will it be cheaper

novel mango
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Hmm. I have a lot to think about. Thanks all for your help

hollow grail
little osprey
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not bad

hollow grail
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wdym what should you do

stoic island
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wdym "what should i do"

hollow grail
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ha nerd

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get outtyped

stoic island
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no u

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get out-syntaxed

little osprey
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bruh both of yall shhhhhh

hollow grail
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ur just jelly ur keychron is slower than my pixelbook keeb

little osprey
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bruh

stoic island
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ur just jelly your pixelbook keeb is slower than my dell laptop membrane keeb

little osprey
hollow grail
stoic island
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I'd type much faster on keychron smh

hollow grail
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lol that black theme ass

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here

stoic island
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what

hollow grail
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for ur browser

uncut pelican
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Cute laptop

stoic island
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lemme just

uncut pelican
junior mural
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ok ill be more spesific this time
i am almost done wit my build here are my specs:
optiplex
evga 600 BQ bronze
intel i7 4790 3.6ghz 4 cores 8 threads lga1150
1050ti gigabyte 4GB vram gddr5
WD blue sata SSD 500GB 560 mb/s+ WD blue HDD 500GB 150 mb/s
16GB Hynix ram ddr3 4x4 dual channel
possideon z kalih switch blue
asus tuf gaming VG24VQE 165hz DP 1.2 23.6
some random dell work mouse
is there anything i can upgrade (except for GPU/mouse. ill upgrade that)

stoic island
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hm

uncut pelican
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What brand ram

little osprey
stoic island
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dunno if I like it @hollow grail

uncut pelican
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Nvm

muted patio
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165 hz for a 1050?

stoic island
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I like the grey-ish theme similar to discord lel

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black high contrast :P

hollow grail
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hdd

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x300 4tb time

junior mural
novel mango
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Does anyone know of a site that is selling AMD Ryzen 9 pre built machines with amd graphic cards? I can see some i9s and GTX but id like to stick with amd if i could

stoic island
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Well, what do you want it to do? @novel mango

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And how much are you willing to spend?

novel mango
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up to 5k

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but id like to save some money so i can get a new monitor

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gaming, game development, automation

stoic island
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Well, price is not an issue then, assuming usd, any restrictions on the timeline (need it in x days)?

novel mango
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Canada actual

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🙂

stoic island
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Okay, still plenty, although I'm not completely familiar with shipping costs and restriction from various prebuilts to ship to Canada

novel mango
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And well, yes and no. id prefer not waiting a year haha. which is what it feels like for these graphic cards. which is why i am aiming for the already built ones

stoic island
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fair

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For your game development and automation, is it GPU accelerated or CPU accelerated?

novel mango
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well.. sorry but iam not familiar

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automation is thread base

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the more i automate the more threads its taking up

stoic island
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Interesting

novel mango
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but i mean, its automation haha so i dont need 10 running at the same times. i can run it at like 2am if i want

stoic island
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Do you have any ideas on how much ram you need?

novel mango
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32gb is what i am aiming for.

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16 seems to be bottle necking a lot on my current machine

stoic island
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damn stacking parts onto a prebuilt makes the cost go up fast

novel mango
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hmm what do you mean

stoic island
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Any ideas on how much storage you need?

novel mango
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i was thinking of setting up a NAS. but iam not locked into that idea

stoic island
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I was just expecting this to be cheaper, just using xoticpc to look at the price of stacking stuff on right now

novel mango
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1tb ssd and the rest can be on NAS

wanton cliff
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Does NAS usually use Linux or windows or is it basically external storage?

stoic island
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Welp, this this a very basic start to looking into it, 4400USD for a 5950x+6900xt build with decent stuff, I'll look further, but this is an example to start. Click customize and it'll show you the setup. @novel mango
https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx75-1000d/products/gx75-1000d-ryzen?conf=335879

novel mango
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oh wow thank you

stoic island
novel mango
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dang building computers are expensive af

wanton cliff
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Only the good ones

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Really good ones

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You really don’t need more than a grand for your average gaming computer

stoic island
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Yea, xotic also has a premium for pretty good service

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@novel mango also keep in mind, this is LITTERALLY THE HIGHEST END PARTS AMD OFFERS FOR CONSUMERS

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5950x and 6900xt

wanton cliff
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Highest end indeed

novel mango
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maybe i am aiming too high. maybe what i need it for can get by with cheaper stuff?

stoic island
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Going down to like 5900x+6800xt prob cuts like 500usd from the cost, and also, this is just one price from one service

novel mango
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hmm

stoic island
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damn, buildredux doesn't have 6800xt or 6900xt options

novel mango
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what are these websites you are using

muted patio
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AMD Gpu's are in even shorter supply than nVidia

stoic island
novel mango
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i am hoping to stick to AMD but, i mean its so appealing to just have my machine sooner.

wanton cliff
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Why do you want to stick to AMD?

novel mango
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i am not really a fan of nvidea and intel. from what ive seen online

wanton cliff
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No reason not to be at this kind of budget

stoic island
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Honestly, I might point you towards Nvidia for the sole reason that CUDA might become useful for automation and such

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AMD CPU is great still though.

wanton cliff
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A 3090 outperforms a 6900 XT, but a 5900x/5950x outperforms a 10900k

novel mango
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I assumed AMD would be better since intel doesn't focus threads, amd does

stoic island
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And 3080 is usually better for stock

novel mango
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for stock? what does that mean

stoic island
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Yea, Intel highest end is a 10 core 20 thread part
AMD 5950x is 16 core 32 thread

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For stock as in the thing being in stock or out of stock

novel mango
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ohh

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i might just have to swallow my pride and go intel + nvidea

stoic island
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Eh, AMD+Nvidia still a great option

wanton cliff
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No pride to swallow

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No reason to shill

stoic island
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whenever possible I'd still try to get 5900x/5950x for your case

wanton cliff
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Shilling bad for you

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Fanboyism bad for you

stoic island
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And tbh, company is just a company, the performance of their products matter

novel mango
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aye im not going after amd for the product but rather in spite of intel and nvidea. the way their company runs just rubs me the wrong way

stoic island
wanton cliff
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I could understand if you were boycotting B&H or Brave or Chick-fil-a or something for bad business practices but not Intel or NVidia

stoic island
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I personally don't really have issues with Nvidia other than the weird recent 3060 hash rate halving

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@novel mango A lot of people fanboy for AMD, I like them too for what they do, but Intel and Nvidia really aren't that bad.

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@novel mango and also, if you really want AMD CPU and GPU, that's alright, we can work off of that, it's just harder to find, and stock situation is a bit worse.

I'll check some other prebuilts like cyberpower, origin, and maingear

wanton cliff
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AMD is kind of being marketed as the underdog by everyone right now

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Which is why everyone is fanboying for them

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But they are a company who’s sole purpose is to make money, so...

silk kraken
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im kinda a noob when it comes to picking the parts of a pc. But, how much money should I be spending on RAM if my budget is 1000.

wanton cliff
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$150 or so

stoic island
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Idealy, 50-75$, for with current market situation, 75$ for a kit of 2x8gb 3000c15/3200c16 ballistix/aegis isn't bad

muted patio
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and what you'll be doing

stoic island
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and also depends on how much you need

silk kraken
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im building a pc for gaming and rendering,

wanton cliff
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Rendering what

silk kraken
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like I do blender, and unity

stoic island
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Well, I'd go for 5950x if your workload needs threads

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But it isn't really bad.

novel mango
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i mean i feel like i do, but how do i really know if i do? ya know?

stoic island
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What program is it?

novel mango
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my own program. wrote it myself

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well maybe lets step back.

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if i aim for Game Development. and 4K gaming. what machine would you recommend

stoic island
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Going to assume something like Unify for game development, which is pretty CPU Intensive, and 4k gaming itself is pretty GPU intensive

novel mango
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Unity will be used indeed

stoic island
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By the way, do you know any more local (canadian) prebuilt sites I could check?

novel mango
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canadacomputers is usually my go to place for building but i dont think its like the other sites you gave. more like newegg

stoic island
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Oh right

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iirc vuugo should work too right? I'll check those for prebuilts

stoic island
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Hm, not great options for prebuilts

novel mango
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nah. new egg has been my best bet so far

stoic island
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Oh and also, nearly forgot, Puget systems is great for production PCs, they have articles on various software and how parts perform, and their prebuilts can be nice, this 3200usd 5900x+3080 build for example. @novel mango
http://puget.systems/go/154902

wanton cliff
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I was looking at Puget earlier

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From what I can tell, their products are good but the company itself isn’t the greatest

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As far as CEO ratings and things like that go

novel mango
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oh i should also mention... anything dell... toss it. haha

stoic island
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Hm? I really like their data and I've been told their quality is good

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Puget systems make it themselves, it's not like they buy dell PCs and resell

coarse oxide
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I have a rtx 3080 and an intel i7 9700k is my cpu bottlenecking my potential at all?

stoic island
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@novel mango LTT made a vid on them xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgzThkM3DuQ

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novel mango
blazing aurora
coarse oxide
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thats what I was thinking

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ty

blazing aurora
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yep no prob

coarse oxide
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I just wanna stream eft

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1080p

blazing aurora
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eft?

coarse oxide
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escape from tarkov

blazing aurora
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ah

coarse oxide
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pretty demanding game

blazing aurora
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3080 can handle any game you throw at it

coarse oxide
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yeah def

wanton cliff
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At 1080p the monitor will be the bottleneck

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A 3080 can handle that game fine

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It can do 4K 60 FPS easy, 1440p at whatever refresh rate you want to throw at it

coarse oxide
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yeah just tryna get 144 fps while streaming

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ok dope

austere vale
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my monitor is definitely the bottleneck right now.. can't wait to get a new monitor

desert gulch
austere vale
uncut pelican
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Yeah seems fine @little osprey

little osprey
muted patio
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It's brand new

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no reviews

uncut pelican
ripe wedge
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id rather choose the cheapest z490 mobo rather than buying a lower end a560 mobo

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or z590*

muted patio
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that's B560

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fast ram speeds

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Only 2 ram slots tho

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oof

uncut pelican
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Rip

haughty furnace
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What about b450-F?

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Is cheap, no?

muted patio
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B460 is Intel. Or are you asking about the B450 for yourself?

haughty furnace
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Oh, I asking him @ripe wedge if he’s searching a cheap motherboard

muted patio
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Sill, Z490 and Z590 are Intel, B450 is AMD

wanton cliff
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Anyways, B450-F was good, but gets beat by pretty much any B550 nowadays

wanton cliff
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Vintage said that already

cerulean trellis
worn wave
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Yes

cerulean trellis
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ok

little osprey
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Nice list, decent ram, 212 could be better, 3600x still strong, 970, sold drive, NZXT 510, ehhh ok. and a 1660.

wanton cliff
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I actually got the 3600x for cheaper than a 3600

little osprey
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Nice.

mortal garnet
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if anything thats overkill lmao

little osprey
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Noctua fans are perfectly fine, unless its literally intake on the side of a brick wall

wanton cliff
little osprey
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No, x570 will have more lanes for two pcie gen4 drives, but to the average person, it doesn't matter

muted patio
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That's literally the only difference

mortal garnet
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o vintage, apparently discord doesnt play friendly with audio interfaces/dacs

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i messaged support and theyre working on it apparently

muted patio
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I've noticed that

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the audio from my pings is all kinds of weird

little osprey
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Good card but iirc, most people diss on the driver issues.

wanton cliff
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Which have been fixed

little osprey
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yep.

wanton cliff
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Why y’all going through my messages lol

little osprey
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lol, just answering oldest to newest

mortal garnet
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i saw dread reply to that one so i clicked on it too lmao

little osprey
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Quad channel but i think its still dual 8x4 sticks. Benefits from x4 sticks vs x2 compared to zen2

wanton cliff
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YES I KNOW

muted patio
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There is no more quad channel

little osprey
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Isnt quad thread

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8 sticks

muted patio
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Quad channel is for TR4

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intel HEDT

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nothing consumer grade

little osprey
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Yep thought so

hollow grail
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im quad channel

wanton cliff
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You are a thieving Kalė is what you are

little osprey
#

Lol

hollow grail
#

:)))))

wanton cliff
#

Cryptic

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Fun

jagged ember
#

Hi mae

wanton cliff
#

Who

jagged ember
#

The character in the gif?

#

Game called Night in the woods?

wanton cliff
#

Never heard of it

haughty furnace
#

@wanton cliff hold on you said the ssd 2.5 is better or was it the M.2 2280? To start the Window faster?

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Can’t remember.

potent portal
#

M.2

wanton cliff
#

Form factor doesn’t matter, but M.2 SSDs are generally faster

#

generally

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A few rare exceptions exist

potent portal
#

2.5 sata vs M.2 nvme, the M.2 wins
There's sata M.2 drives also that are about the same as 2.5 sata speeds

wanton cliff
#

M.2 has better and more direct PCIe connection

haughty furnace
#

Ok, gotcha! Because I almost bought the m.2 2280 and the 2.5 sata as well. 😅

wanton cliff
#

Which ones?

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Cause some M.2 don’t have DRAM, or are SATA, or are just plain slow... etc

haughty furnace
#

The XPG GAMMIX 256GB S11 pro 3D NAND.

wanton cliff
#

What’s your budget

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For an SSD

haughty furnace
#

At least 60 bucks

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Can’t go any higher than that

wanton cliff
#

At least?

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Uhhh

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@potent portal idk any good SSDs below that

#

So I’m calling him

#

But don’t buy XPG

haughty furnace
#

Is bad?

potent portal
#

Eww a 256 for $60? No, no, and no

haughty furnace
#

The XPG is bad?

wanton cliff
#

Yes

#

Overpriced too

#

XPG makes horrible RAM and SSD solutions imo

#

Especially SSD

haughty furnace
#

Ah....well is a good thing I haven’t bought it on Amazon.

#

Yet.

wanton cliff
#

Technically XPG is just a sub name of Adata

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But whatever

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I use the names interchangeably

potent portal
#

I'll find one closer to $60 if that's a hard limit

wanton cliff
#

Ooooh sabrent

potent portal
#

WD not bad, but not fantastic either

wanton cliff
#

They make better HDDs

haughty furnace
#

Is it not to much ask for red color theme? Since I’m build the Shadow the hedgehog PC theme.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6-WoCJqYdgE

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wanton cliff
#

If you are on a budget, I wouldn’t ever try going for a “theme”

potent portal
#

For a Shadow PC you could do a black case and paint red accents, then red LED/RGB

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Like in his hair, subtle streaks

wanton cliff
#

Btw @gaunt zinc make Fal’Cie a techie next time you give people roles, he deserves it.

haughty furnace
#

@potent portal well I kinda wanted for the m.2 2280 matching color there’s Quite a few of them out there on Amazon

#

But, meh.

potent portal
#

Put a heatsink on the M.2 or get a motherboard with one built in

haughty furnace
#

@elfin flame and oh I already got the rbg fans right now.

wanton cliff
#

No need for special colors

main whale
#

Good thing my Gigabyte Aorus has a heatsink placement for two m.2 slots.

wanton cliff
#

Shadow the hedgehog theme would probably be a 980 pro but those expensive as hell

potent portal
#

Aren't those PCIe 4?

wanton cliff
#

Yep

potent portal
#

Definitely expensive and not worth it on a budget

wanton cliff
#

Black with red stickers on the NAND

potent portal
#

Better to stick a $2 heatsink on the drive and take the sticker off

wanton cliff
#

Agreed

haughty furnace
#

@elfin flame this what I got

potent portal
haughty furnace
#

They are good. I seen it on a famous YouTuber who builds PC Game.

haughty furnace
#

And the noise is much quieter than any others led fans.

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@wanton cliff uh.....gave me a sec.

potent portal
#

I think those were on jayztwocents

haughty furnace
#

Is 2GUYSTEK.

potent portal
#

Hehe, costs me nothing and I get to tell Amazon where I want them to donate

haughty furnace
#

@potent portal yeah, even him.

#

Like I said is worth your money for this fans.

potent portal
#

Yeah less than $8 a fan and they're not terrible or too loud, plus RGB? If I needed fans that's what I would buy

haughty furnace
#

@potent portal anyway what about Samsung 970 evo plus? Only have 256 GB for 59.99.

wanton cliff
#

That cheap?

potent portal
#

Good drives, but Samsung is coasting on their fame right now. You're paying more for the name.
The Sabrent in the first link I posted is faster and twice the capacity.

wanton cliff
#

I suppose it is only 256gb

potent portal
wanton cliff
#

Def go sabrent before they go the Samsung route

haughty furnace
#

@potent portal western digital 250gb WD Black?

potent portal
#

WD blacks are pretty good

wanton cliff
#

Small tho

potent portal
#

If it's just a boot/program drive it doesn't need to be huge. I'm only using 80 GB of my 256 boot drive.

haughty furnace
#

@potent portal than last one about this: PNY XLR8 CS3030 250GB M.2

wanton cliff
#

PNY also Cringe

haughty furnace
#

....damn ok, than I just stick WD black for now.

potent portal
#

That PNY is a fairly new drive, hard to tell for sure how reliable it is and other stats

long viper
#

hey will the nzxt x63 fit in a fractal design meshify c ?

wanton cliff
#

X63 is 280mm, right?

#

It should, if so

potent portal
#

Yes it's 280 and should fit

little osprey
haughty furnace
#

One last thing, do all m.2 require to have heat sink or is fine without? Such as WD black can only have heat sink at 500 Gb model but no heatsink for 250gb.

little osprey
#

Usually says in your manually as well

little osprey
#

if its gen4, you should

#

gen3 might be fine

#

My gen4 drives need a heatsink

#

needs* but gen4 gets toasty

potent portal
#

Most M.2 are fine without a heatsink but if you're doing a lot of read/write and it gets hot you can add one

little osprey
#

^

haughty furnace
#

Thanks!

little osprey
#

it getting hot when you copy over 100gb usually xd

long viper
#

thank you all for the answer :(

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:)

#

whoos ha

wanton cliff
#

I have an 970 Evo plus and a SX 8100, neither have a heat sink, both work fine

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Although the SX 8100 gets hot as hell

little osprey
#

baybe couse its under gpu 😂

wanton cliff
#

How do you know it is?

potent portal
#

Yeah my hp ex950 works fine without one
My M.2_2 slot isn't under my GPU, it's below my second PCIe x16 slot

little osprey
#

couse theres not good airflow there as much as close cpu

wanton cliff
#

But how do you know it’s in my M.2_1 slot?

little osprey
#

lol couse everyone would put 970 as boot drive so m2 1 slot

wanton cliff
#

I said the SX 8100 is the one that gets hot lol

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Not the 970

little osprey
#

yeah so m2 2 can get hot 🤔

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since m2 1 is 970 😂

wanton cliff
#

Wut

potent portal
#

All based on assumptions

little osprey
#

my mobo have headsink on m2 2 slot but don't have headsink on m2 1 slot

#

thats smart actually 😂

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

M.2_1 is under the GPU tho

little osprey
#

🤔

potent portal
#

Point here being, broad assumptions may or may not be correct. Not everyone uses the same layout, every board is different, everyone uses different cases and fans.

wanton cliff
#

The funny part is

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His logic is completely wrong

little osprey
#

I don't think theres much heat difference between ssd brands

wanton cliff
#

Because the SX 8100 is in M.2_1 kekw

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And has windows on it

little osprey
#

my logic is not wrong its yours lol

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😂

wanton cliff
#

I got it a year before the 970 btw

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Been to lazy to reformat it all and redownload everything

little osprey
#

xpg is adata brand so uh

#

I heard they have heat problems

potent portal
#

dd if=/dev/nvme0 of=/dev/nvme1
One command to combat laziness

wanton cliff
#

My friend is complaining that he can’t run newgrounds games with how slow his laptop is, I asked him to check what CPU, it’s a N3710 XD

potent portal
#

😬

haughty furnace
#

I got a b450-f so....I don’t think I have a heat sink on any slot that come from the mobo.

wanton cliff
#

Correct

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You do not

little osprey
#

rip

potent portal
#

Not a huge deal, they run normally without one so it mostly means you'll be able to see it on the board instead of having it covered

little osprey
#

ha

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Lmfao

haughty furnace
#

Damn, looks like I have to buy one. Since I’m planning to play game and make a story on fanfiction.

wanton cliff
#

You don’t need one

potent portal
#

Not necessarily. Only if you transfer large files and it throttles/stops.

little osprey
#

we said gen4, unless you do ALOT of read and write

haughty furnace
#

What the games they got large files to download in order to play ( pay first, then download )

wanton cliff
#

That’s 107gb

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Zipped but still

potent portal
#

Downloads are not going to come anywhere near the bandwidth required to cause thermal problems

haughty furnace
#

Oh.😯

wanton cliff
#

It was a transfer, not a download

little osprey
#

I was had everything

potent portal
#

Once you get around 2GB/s for over 30 minutes you might run into problems

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(that's BYTES not bits)

wanton cliff
#

Big B

#

We know

#

2GB/s still very fast

potent portal
#

Just an emphasis lol, some people mistype it

haughty furnace
#

.....so I should be fine without it. For the WD black?

potent portal
#

Yes it'll be perfectly fine

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Even gaming or media editing

haughty furnace
#

Ok. Thank for your help, since I don’t know much about tech stuff. Even though I building my first time pc gaming.

verbal quarry
#

what is the best cpu brand for video editing and multitasking

wanton cliff
#

AMD right now

#

With the 5950x

verbal quarry
#

well im on a 1200 budget

wanton cliff
#

Once Zen3 TR comes out it will be even better

wanton cliff
verbal quarry
#

a $500 cpu?

wanton cliff
#

Isn’t MSRP a lot less than that?

verbal quarry
#

im doing this for someone who doesnt know the best places for parts

haughty furnace
#

Or you can get a used one

verbal quarry
#

im trying to source everything to one place

wanton cliff
#

Why not just provide them with links or whatever

haughty furnace
#

Oh.

graceful viper
#

is a ryzen 5 3600 good for recording and editing?

wanton cliff
wanton cliff
#

I’d prefer a 3700x any day of the week

muted patio
#

5600X smack that too

graceful viper
#

what gpu would go well with a 3600?

potent portal
#

3060ti or 3070 I would do

graceful viper
#

yeah i was thinking 3070

#

where could i get one tho

potent portal
#

It's not quite that easy right now...

graceful viper
#

yeah

#

i saw a 3060ti being sold for 1200 lol

verbal quarry
#

so wait a 5600x or a 3700x?

potent portal
#

Everyone and their grandmother wants a GPU right now, combined with silicon shortages and tariffs and we're in a perfect market storm

#

5600x is better than 3700x by a good amount

verbal quarry
#

ok thank you

#

what gpu would be a good pair?

#

3060ti for budget?

potent portal
#

Not a bad choice but a 5600x could handle a 3080

wanton cliff
graceful viper
#

is it worth waiting for a 3070 or should i find a different gpu

wanton cliff
#

Wait

graceful viper
#

ok

wanton cliff
#

If you can find a 2080Ti for around $500 that would be worth it

#

Good luck tho

graceful viper
#

i have all the parts except for that

#

how does 2080ti compare to 3070

balmy patio
#

in what scenarios?

muted patio
#

2080TI discontinued

wanton cliff
potent portal
#

Pretty comparable raster performance, 3070 does better DLSS and raytracing

muted patio
#

and even higher price than 3070

wanton cliff
graceful viper
#

ok thx

muted patio
#

Yeah, if you can find one, it'll be even more expensive than a 3070

#

$1100 buy it now on Ebay

severe axle
#

hmm, just found a 2080ti with 24gb vram for $563 usd

#

oh it says picture

muted patio
#

😉

potent portal
#

Lol those trolls are aiming for the bots

severe axle
little osprey
#

Coffin PC?

balmy patio
potent portal
#

I almost want to do that but I also prize my 100% seller rating

balmy patio
#

make a new account

#

ez

potent portal
#

New accounts are restricted still though right? I guess I could link it to my wife's Paypal to get the restrictions removed

#

Best part is people are clearly not monitoring their bots very well, I see one that ends in a few days that has 32 bids

wanton cliff
#

Dummies

#

I should do that on my dad’s account or something lol

#

Last thing he sold on there was a pulse oximeter back in 2011

potent portal
#

Free money and it discourages bad practices, win win I feel even if it is a little in the gray area of policies

wanton cliff
#

I have no qualms about it

#

Stupid scalpers

potent portal
#

Oh nice idea also, make a good chunk of the sale be for charity

#

Feel good about yourself while you scam idiots making it hard for everyone else lol

wanton cliff
#

Good idea

balmy patio
#

frick your rep on ebay

wanton cliff
#

Just buy an eBay account lol

#

It’s not really a scam

#

You can obviously see that it says that it’s just a picture in the desc

little osprey
#

I need help looking for a laptop for work. I'm an atv mechanic and every now and then I need to pull up schematics, wiring diagrams, or cross reference parts and phone doesn't really work well for that.

wanton cliff
#

So you don’t need anything super powerful?

little osprey
#

No

#

Found one on amazon I'm interested in, but looking for other options to consider as well

wanton cliff
#

This may be an unpopular opinion

#

But HP’s recent Envy line is pretty good

#

The Envy X360s

little osprey
#

Budget is $300 max, preferably $200 at mist

#

*most

wanton cliff
#

With the 4000-series processors

wanton cliff
#

Best chance is used

little osprey
#

Yeah ik

cedar pagoda
#

get a hp pavilion or sum

little osprey
#

Budget is very very tight rn though

cedar pagoda
#

i5 1035g

#

with intel iris plus

#

or like 600 cad

#

idk what that is in usd

little osprey
#

This is what I'm looking at rn

#

I like the fact that it's part tablet as well

wanton cliff
#

Celeron Cringe

little osprey
#

Ik ik

cedar pagoda
#

lol

little osprey
#

But I'm going to be using chrome

wanton cliff
#

That iGPU probs won’t even be able to open chrome

little osprey
#

No fancy software

next kestrel
#

just get an ipad then

little osprey
#

I'm a mechanic

cedar pagoda
#

he would need a keyboard though?

little osprey
#

I ain't bringing no apple into a mechanic shop

cedar pagoda
#

iPads are pretty expensive as well

still roostBOT
#
Salvecai#2050 has been warned

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little osprey
#

I'm not stupid

cedar pagoda
#

u looking for something small?

little osprey
#

Not necessarily small

#

That's just what caught my eye

cedar pagoda
#

ah

lyric thistle
#

You could get a used Thinkpad

little osprey
#

But probably no bigger than 15" screen

wanton cliff
lyric thistle
#

Pretty cheap and decent for basic stuff

cedar pagoda
#

thinkpads are good

#

me like

#

but I hate the weird red mouse button thing

lyric thistle
#

And Thinkpad users who drop them alot seem to say they're resilient

cedar pagoda
#

makes me cringe

lyric thistle
#

Lol

little osprey
#

What about this?

wanton cliff
#

I mean

cedar pagoda
#

very tough

wanton cliff
#

For $500 you could get a 4600u

#

So

#

(Give or take)

little osprey
#

Damn

#

Couldn't find one in stock

#

an i5-4000u, remember a few years ago, my i3-6100u was 300

#

Tbh I'm more leaning the panasonic since I don't want it to shatter if it falls

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

oh

#

lol

wanton cliff
#

Which is very good btw

#

6c 6t

little osprey
#

I thought i saw an i5-4600u on amazon

#

lol

wanton cliff
#

3.9ghz boost

little osprey
#

If only I could build my own laptop lol

#

it probably is more expensive

#

toughbook built to be tough

#

From scratch

cedar pagoda
#

be the first person

little osprey
#

iirc the military uses toughbook or panasonic

#

Yeah

#

The big ones can cost thousands

cedar pagoda
#

tough book is probably perfect for you

little osprey
#

they can survive water, dunes, helicopter rides

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

I would try and get an Envy X360 4600u version

#

Ryzen 5 4600u that is

little osprey
#

Let me look

cedar pagoda
#

aren’t envy’s like 600 buckaroos?

little osprey
cedar pagoda
#

transformer laptop

wanton cliff
#

Thicc

little osprey
#

Wish I had a small powerful desktop

#

honestly should of built itx for on the go lol

cedar pagoda
#

or a laptop????

viral ore
#

getacs are pog

little osprey
#

im planning to bring my desktop to school

#

I'm not going desktop due to too much dust and I have no room for monitor

viral ore
#

getac X500 server best laptop

little osprey
#

yes im too cheap to buy a laptop

#

lol

cedar pagoda
#

Ah

little osprey
#

lug an atx desktop to school

#

kekw on a bike

cedar pagoda
#

yes

little osprey
#

i was debating straps

#

or putting it in a bike trailer

#

for kids

cedar pagoda
#

lol

viral ore
little osprey
#

Is there no tiny case?

#

My main issue for atx is

#

gpu is long boi

#

323mm

viral ore
little osprey
#

and RMX psu size

little osprey
#

if its hinges aren't weak

cedar pagoda
little osprey
#

Nah

#

Look at thicc boi over here.

cedar pagoda
#

so thicc

wanton cliff
#

Almost as powerful as a Nokia

little osprey
cedar pagoda
#

anyways ima dip

little osprey
#

wait strongest

cedar pagoda
#

hope u find a laptop atv mechanic man

little osprey
#

is RMX850 considered an ATX PSU?

viral ore
#

yes

little osprey
#

I thought it was, but dimensions look a bit off

#

Maybe im blind

#

6.3 x 5.91 x 3.39 inches

viral ore
#

atx length is whatever the manufacturer wants it to be

#

120mm-infinite

little osprey
#

Cause i was hoping I could get a tiny atx case

#

but i'd need to buy a custom one

viral ore
#

o11d mini

little osprey
#

is it like

#

tiny enough to carry on a bike

#

... Lol

viral ore
#

HAF xb evo

little osprey
#

I was thinking that, but people said it was pretty big

#

can it fit a 323mm gpu and probably an RMX? I saw the dimensions, trying to find psu size currently.

viral ore
#

yeah but bungee cord it to the back of your bike no prob

little osprey
#

lol

viral ore
little osprey
#

Like tie it?

#

or just drag it

#

Kekk

#

cause im sure i could install a rack on my bike

#

and tie it

viral ore
#

does your bike have one of those racks?

little osprey
#

no.

wanton cliff
#

Bungie cord it like some pizzas

viral ore
#

oof

little osprey
#

im sure i could install a rack though

#

NOOOOOOO

#

why didn't i take my sisters bike

#

it's pink

#

but the basket was giant

#

it could fit cat litter bag in the front

#

lol

#

Get a 4x4 atv lol

#

Lots of em come with racks

#

Probably faster than your bike as well

#

4v4 atv price?

wanton cliff
#

I can’t look at this thread without thinking of spider man

#

And his pizzas

little osprey
#

LOL

#

i don't have that kind of money

wanton cliff
#

Surprisingly cheap

#

Relative to what I thought it was

little osprey
#

True

little osprey
#

wait thats what my school police ride on

wanton cliff
#

That’s a golf cart

#

Dummy

little osprey
#

lmao

lyric thistle
#

Meanwhile Geo Metros for like 500 bucks

#

(if you can find one)

subtle gyro
#

Anyone got a build for 1.5k Canadian?

wanton cliff
#

Gaming I assume?

#

What’s 1.5k cad in USD also

subtle gyro
#

1.2kusd

wanton cliff
#

One sec

subtle gyro
#

Kk

wanton cliff
#

A hundred dollars over budget

#

I can lessen that number if need be

little osprey
#

you can always go to zen2

subtle gyro
#

I can push it to 2k canadian if I have too

wanton cliff
#

Not necessary

little osprey
#

you can also drop the ram to 3200cl16

#

that's still enough

wanton cliff
#

No

subtle gyro
#

Which 1.5k usd

wanton cliff
#

Not on Zen3

wanton cliff
subtle gyro
#

Yea

wanton cliff
#

Alright

#

One sec again

subtle gyro
#

Don't mind spending extra 500

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

Was able to stretch it a little more

little osprey
#

Not bad

wanton cliff
#

Got a cooler, better case, and some nice fans

little osprey
#

Would stick with stock personally, but if it fits the budget

subtle gyro
#

Also 3060ti better?

wanton cliff
#

Better than what?

subtle gyro
#

I got someone selling 2080 super for 500cad

wanton cliff
#

They are the same card

#

In essence

little osprey
#

Nice PSU.

#

fans gud

#

sk hynix ssd looks solid

#

Found laptop btw

wanton cliff
#

2080 super for $500 is good because 3060Ti extremely hard to find stock

#

I would take that deal

little osprey
#

Same

subtle gyro
#

OK really appreciate the help

little osprey
#

Yeah i'd assume it would be hard to find

wanton cliff
#

2080 super and 3060Ti same raw performance

little osprey
#

Got my 2070S for $600

#

3060ti hashrate good

wanton cliff
#

I believe 2080s and 3060Ti hashrate relatively the same

#

They use the same VRAM I think

#

Need to have that double checked though

little osprey
#

GDDR6

#

2080 is

#

GDDR6

#

yep

wanton cliff
#

No I mean

little osprey
#

Amount?

wanton cliff
#

There are different forms on G6, just like there are different forms of DDR4

little osprey
#

Oh.

wanton cliff
#

Which is what G6 is based off of

little osprey
#

GDDR6? and 6x?

wanton cliff
#

Different speeds, different bus, different latencys and sizes

little osprey
#

oh

#

yeah

wanton cliff
#

Most of it is minor when gaming but makes a difference when mining

little osprey
#

ah

wanton cliff
#

A pretty significant one

honest ferry
#

hey guys is that build nice

#

and whats the max prise

#

i7 10700k

#

32 gb ram 3600mhz g.skill tridentZ

#

rtx 3070 msi

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z490 msi gaming pro

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m.2 970evo plus 500gb

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wd blue 1tb ssd

ripe wedge
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Pretty good except I’d get a better mobo

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Make a pc part picker list

honest ferry
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coolermaster h500p white

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and collermaster 360mm cooler

honest ferry
wanton cliff
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Also get a 4tb HDD instead of 1tb SSD

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Toshiba X300

honest ferry
wanton cliff
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Unless you really need those fast speeds

ripe wedge
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Maybe he wants fast data

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I have all m.2 nvme in my pc

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Lol

honest ferry
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i want a pretty cool mobo for the build

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any ideas

wanton cliff
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I have 2x 1tb NVME in RAID0 and a 4tb external HDD

ripe wedge
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And the motherboard I use is the Z490 Aorus Ultra but it’s pricy. I’d recommend getting a cheaper Z490 Asus mobo

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I also have the 10700k

wanton cliff
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3800x here

ripe wedge
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But make a pc part picker list

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Z490 master overkill but it should be a good mobo

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Actually

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You should get a newer Z590 asus mobo

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Or Z590 Aorus mobo

honest ferry
ripe wedge
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And might be worth waiting for 11th gen

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It’s right around the corner for release date

honest ferry
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no ihave 2 months work to get money

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i have now a potato pc

ripe wedge
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Ah so then 11th gen might be our by then

honest ferry
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with i3 630 4gb ram 320gb hdd

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you see

ripe wedge
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Oof

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So you don’t have the money now for the pc?

honest ferry
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no i have i want to buy a new pc

ripe wedge
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Ah

honest ferry
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but i want to get enough money for mouse keyboard headset microphone and a 2k 170hz monitor

ripe wedge
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Ah

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Well that pic will be solid for 1440p

honest ferry
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ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27
is it cool for the build

ripe wedge
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Make a list on here

honest ferry
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iam making it now

little osprey
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tbh doesn't matter what's cool, it matters whether its practical or not.

ripe wedge
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And that monitor should be fine

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^

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1440p is nice for gaming tho

little osprey
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Like are you going to spend 4k on spreadsheets?