building-and-recc-chat

[muted patio]

In that case

Zen DAC and AKG371

I have it

[stoic island]

I can't get answers :(

[muted patio]

It's amazeballs

[fossil halo]

lol

[stoic island]

Yea Zen dac plus akg 371 is bae

If it fits

[fossil halo]

mr1111 getting ghosted hard

[muted patio]

I know

IDK why

[fossil halo]

would the zen dac be good with the cb1

oh wow actually

its um

rather expensive

[stoic island]

Cb1?

[fossil halo]

zan

zen

is it this ifi zen thing?

[stoic island]

Ifi Zen amp/dac yea

[feral bobcat]

k5 pro is amazons editors choice

[muted patio]

Oh yeah, it would work with those headphones

[stoic island]

Not the signature stuff, that stuff isn't what were on about

[fossil halo]

wait i havent got a different audio cable tho

[muted patio]

Don't need one

[fossil halo]

i have only a 3.5mm

[muted patio]

Comes with a 3.5-6.3 adapter

[stoic island]

Don't think you'll need balanced stuff for Zen dac

[fossil halo]

oh wait and the thicc jack

oh

[feral bobcat]

zen is 4.4 mm

[stoic island]

Oh okay

[muted patio]

nah, 6.3

[stoic island]

@muted patio I thought you could just plug into the back with normal 3.5?

[muted patio]

balanced is kinda meh

[fossil halo]

it says 6.3 unbalanced

4.4 unbalanced

[feral bobcat]

i need to buy extra cable rca to 3.5 😭

[muted patio]

Nope

It's 4.4 or 6.3

[stoic island]

Can't? Rip

[muted patio]

It comes with a 6.3 adapter tho

[fossil halo]

oh wait

[muted patio]

So you don't need anything extra

[fossil halo]

i think i have a 6.3

adapter

already

[muted patio]

Well if you don't, you're covered

[feral bobcat]

total $300

[fossil halo]

kinda looks like this

[feral bobcat]

$150 for each

[deft walrus]

what is best ram upgrade for 16-a0032dx hp

[fossil halo]

um just get laptop ram lmao

[stoic island]

Yea go with K371+Zen dac if you like bass at all

[feral bobcat]

there are only 3 ram makers: samsung sk-hynix & micron

[deft walrus]

i have micron rn

[stoic island]

@muted patio lmao I think my UR40s came with a 6.3 adapter

[muted patio]

Probs did

[stoic island]

Now that I think about it, there was a huge plug

[muted patio]

That came with a 2x4Gbkit so to upgrade you'll need a 2x8 GB KIT

[fossil halo]

yea

[muted patio]

DDR4-2933

[fossil halo]

mine came with mine too

a 6.3 mm

it like

screws onto the end

[stoic island]

Didn't quite know what it was before

[deft walrus]

comes with 8 GB DDR4-2933 SDRAM

[muted patio]

Ah

[muted patio]

yes, it does

[feral bobcat]

plz tell me what for total 300 usd

[deft walrus]

was thinking to get at least 16

[muted patio]

however, it comes with 2 sticks installed. So to upgrade, you'll need two 8 Gb sticks

Dont need more than that in a laptop TBH

[stoic island]

@feral bobcat akg371+Zen dac

~250$ total

[feral bobcat]

haha thanks

great

[stoic island]

Zen dac also has an amp in it, no need for extra

[muted patio]

something like this https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820236664?Description=so-dimm DDR4 2933 MHz&cm_re=so-dimm_DDR4 2933 MHz-_-20-236-664-_-Product

[deft walrus]

so it have to be 2933

does*

[stoic island]

Laptop might get screwy with you

Desktop you can just set frequency to whatever, laptop bios might not like you for that

[muted patio]

IDK, that's what it came with. laptops typically don't have the overclock options that desktops do

Intel lists 2933 as the only memory speed so I'd stick with that

[deft walrus]

ok cool thanks guys

[muted patio]

YW

[deft walrus]

the ram i currently have i think is PC4 24000 will PC4 23400 be ok

[muted patio]

That's what you want

PC4 23400 is great

[deft walrus]

hmm ok

[muted patio]

Hp says DDR4-2933

23400 is 2933

[deft walrus]

I see

DDR4 2933 PC4-24000 3000MHz = < PC4 23400

[muted patio]

PC4 24000 is 3000 mhz memory

It will work but will be clocked at 2933

[stoic island]

Do laptops need xmp?

I don't really pay attention to em

[muted patio]

IDK

I can check my wifes lappy

[stoic island]

if she isn't using it, that'd be nice

[muted patio]

She's sleeping lol

night shift

[stoic island]

fair

[muted patio]

no XMP lol

BIOS just does it

I guess

[fossil halo]

oo @uncut pelican are we looking at some possible sff action here?

[little osprey]

does intel benefit from ram faster than 2933?

[muted patio]

It can, yes

3200 is kinda the sweet spot for them

[little osprey]

ah

[muted patio]

The problem with Intel though is you need a high end board for it

B460 limits i5 ram speed to 2666 for example

So to get the faster ram speed you need a z490

[little osprey]

ah

[uncut pelican]

😉

[fossil halo]

🤭

send pics when done

[uncut pelican]

I'm using velka 3 too lol

[fossil halo]

SHOOT

yo

dude that case is so based

i want it so bad

[uncut pelican]

I have never built a sff before so this is a first, my client was like "Yeah make it fit in a backpack"

[fossil halo]

ooh

yea velka 3 is best for backpack

tiny asf

[uncut pelican]

ya

[fossil halo]

lot of manhandling involved tho when building

[uncut pelican]

shipping was lowkey expensive

[uncut pelican]

Oh boy I can't wait

I am waiting on the case and m.2

[fossil halo]

ooh

yea that case is so pog

but i assume it runs loud asl

are u gonna put a dgpu in it?

[uncut pelican]

idk what to expect lol

[fossil halo]

or is it gonna be boring

[uncut pelican]

its a work pc

reg ig

[fossil halo]

bruh

sff is only fun with the smol dgpus

i think the most powerful small dgpu u can get rn is the 3060ti aero

[uncut pelican]

he told me he would pay 1400 for that stuff with no gpu so im like aight

[uncut pelican]

probs

[fossil halo]

LMAO

y u scamming thta poor mf

[uncut pelican]

I'll do whatever the hell he wants at that point

[fossil halo]

xD

[uncut pelican]

well actually the total with shipping + tax + labor is like 1350

[fossil halo]

really?

oh wow

[uncut pelican]

prices man

they suck

newegg had a ton of promo codes tho

[fossil halo]

tru

yea prices stupid asl rn

[uncut pelican]

I had another build

I told her to wait

to get a gpu

[little osprey]

What’s 3060 equivalent

[uncut pelican]

I was surprised I got my gpu when i did

[uncut pelican]

in? amd

[little osprey]

oh god

[little osprey]

In released gpus

[fossil halo]

better than 2060s

[little osprey]

Well obviously

[desert gulch]

yeah

try it

thats not 3090

[austere vale]

I am pretty happy with my new build, spent a couple hours playing cyberpunk last night and it took it like a champ.

[uncut estuary]

Help

Why is 75% of my ram hardware reserved?

Why does it need so much

Wait I figured it out

[muted patio]

I've seen that before

[uncut estuary]

I'm using 32 bit windows

I can only use 4gb at a time

I can't upgrade

[muted patio]

Ah

[uncut estuary]

The 64 bit of windows 10 requires a 64 bit os

[muted patio]

Wait, what Windows?

yeah

[uncut estuary]

10

[muted patio]

is it tied to a microsoft account for the license?

[uncut estuary]

No

[muted patio]

You should be able to reinstall 64 bit at no cost

Is this a prebuilt or you built

[uncut estuary]

I built

Well

I bought a prebuilt and replaced most of the parts

[muted patio]

Ah

[uncut estuary]

It had 4gb ram

[muted patio]

I don't see why you couldn't upgrade to 64 bit TBH

[uncut estuary]

Yeah

[muted patio]

lemme check

Yeah, you can certainly do that with an existing license https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10

Provided you have a 64 bit CPU whic hyou should

[uncut estuary]

I have one

[muted patio]

Yeah, follow that guide then but it will mean a full nuke and pave reinstall

[uncut estuary]

This pops up when I run the iso

[muted patio]

So back everything up

[uncut estuary]

It's fine

I just finished a clean install then realized it x86

[muted patio]

Oh, so not that painful then 🙂

[uncut estuary]

Yeah

Went to a pawn shop and got a junk pc for parts

Optiplex for $45

While I was there they had a windows 10 disc

Every version in x86

Home, home n, home education, home education n, home workstation, home workstation n, pro, pro n, pro education, pro education n, pro workstation, pro workstation n, enterprise, and embeded

All in x86

I'm like what?

All this in a 4gb file?

[potent portal]

Windows 10 licenses are both 32 and 64 bit now, should work for both and once you sign in to your MS account it'll save your license key

[uncut estuary]

Yeah

It never asked me for a license though that's what's weird

It might be a modified copy

[potent portal]

It probably read it off your motherboard

[muted patio]

Sometimes the license keys are stored in the BIOS

Yeah

OEM boards

[uncut estuary]

Ok

[potent portal]

That'll download and help create the install USB for the latest version of windows

[uncut estuary]

What is that?

Oh sweet

Thx

I needed one of these

[little osprey]

Nice

[uncut estuary]

do you by any chance have one for vista?

im doing a project on an old laptop

[potent portal]

Does Vista even do an online activation any more 🤔

[uncut estuary]

idk

[potent portal]

I know XP doesn't work, hasn't for years, Vista too probably by now

[uncut estuary]

i just mean like an app to make a usb for vista

because i ran out of blank cds

[potent portal]

Oh lol you can get that from the MS download site hang on

Or not since M$ decided to take the site down

Dell site down too XD

[prime plover]

My keyboard just arrived and it is spectacular. My PC is coming together one step at a time.

[potent portal]

https://archive.org/download/Windows_Vista_Home_Premium_32-Bit_Software_Only_X12-24164-02_Microsoft_Corporati/Windows Vista Home Premium (32-Bit Software Only)(X12-24164-02)(Microsoft Corporation)(2007).iso

@uncut estuary That's the 32 bit home premium version of vista, I had to dig into the internet archive to find it though

[uncut estuary]

i love archive.org

thats where i got my xp copy

[potent portal]

Best place to find old software and abandonware

[uncut estuary]

yeah

[austere vale]

Super handy for copies of factory restore cds for old tech too

[uncut estuary]

i used it to get xp isos a 98 and 2000 iso and some games like fallout 1,2 and tactics along with unreal tornoment 1999

im installing windows now

[uncut pelican]

I need windows 98

:)

[potent portal]

https://archive.org/details/win98se_201607

You'll need something to boot that though, like a boot floppy image

I have a couple boot floppy images you can use, just tell me what format you need, .flp or .img

[austere vale]

For legacy Windows stuff i use winworldpc.com

They have boot disk images etc too

[potent portal]

Need to be level 3 for links

[austere vale]

Apparently so

[uncut pelican]

Hello build chat

[uncut estuary]

hey

[uncut pelican]

hru

[uncut estuary]

im doing good

[uncut pelican]

Nice

[uncut estuary]

i got my windows install working

[uncut pelican]

w10?

[uncut estuary]

yeah

i acidentaly installed x86

i wanted x64

i put 16 gb ram in and only 4gb is availiable

ok it finished

[wanton cliff]

My friend payed $1300 for a 1660, 1600, 8 gigs of RAM, and a MSI B450 with a total of 256 gb of (slow) solid state memory

And he thinks it was a good deal and is getting mad at me for telling him that it’s not

[potent portal]

Some people just don't like the idea of being wrong and get angry at the mere thought of it

[dense wigeon]

Hey guys, I need help building a PC. I legit have no idea what I’m doing. Would be nice for some feedback on my build. Can anyone give me feedback on it ?

[uncut estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips

[potent portal]

Sure, did you have your parts picked already?
And he's not wrong to point you to Linus' channel, there's lots of beginner friendly build stuff there

[dense wigeon]

Yup ! I have it. I’ll definitely visit Linus too

[uncut estuary]

thats where i got most of my knowlage

[potent portal]

...

[dense wigeon]

https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/EqMMQ2DN6Sx5CNJpc5BdZg==

Here it is

[potent portal]

You'll want a better power supply

That's a D tier unit, only good for systems with no GPU

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[dense wigeon]

Ooo I see!!

[potent portal]

And you don't need to buy the full retail key for Windows, a $20 ebay key will work for home users

Use that savings for a better PSU

[dense wigeon]

Thanks !! And what about the video card ?

[potent portal]

At that price? Terrible deal

[dense wigeon]

Really?

What would be a decent price range and a good video card ?

[potent portal]

Wait for the RTX 3060 to launch on the 25th. It'll be under $400.

[dense wigeon]

Awesome, I’ll wait for it! And I’m guessing all this should be okay with the motherboard ?

[potent portal]

Yeah all that will work on the B450

A good tier B power supply
https://www.newegg.com/evga-650-gq-210-gq-0650-v1-650w/p/N82E16817438059?&quicklink=true

[dense wigeon]

Awesome! It’s on sale too so that’s good

[stoic island]

@potent portal GQ <850w is tier C

Do segotep, it's tier B and usually cheaper

[dense wigeon]

How fast does the RTX 3060 sell out ? I’m guessing it’s going to fly off

[potent portal]

Oh yeah I see it's the 850+ that are tier B, I skimmed 😅

Probably won't be as bad as past launches, retailers have learned from mistakes

[stoic island]

Full mod 750w for 86$:
https://www.newegg.com/segotep-gp-series-750w-fully-modular/p/1HU-00Z0-00006

And Nvidia nerfed 3060 for ETH mining, that should turn some buyers away

[dense wigeon]

Thankfully

Thank you both!!

[main whale]

We'll find out this Thursday.

[dense wigeon]

And that would be available on Newegg?

[main whale]

Frankly, how MUCH of a performance dropout would there be for a 3060 compared to a 3070?

[potent portal]

Newegg has just been putting high demand stuff on the shuffle, best buy or other local stores might be your best bet, Microcenter if you have one close

[main whale]

By all accounts, 3060 reads like a 1080p card.

[dense wigeon]

So it’s prob best just to fetch a 1080 card ?

[potent portal]

We won't know until benchmarks are released, probably the day before launch

At that under $400 price range the 3060 will be your best option

The 270X you selected before is pitiful in comparison

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-R9-270X-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti/2188vs4090

[dense wigeon]

Hahaha, good thing I didn’t make the mistake !

[potent portal]

Good thing you asked the right people 👍

[dense wigeon]

I have much to learn, I used to be into PCs back in 2009

I’m guessing a lot has changed

[potent portal]

That was the last golden age of computers I think, we're going through another right now

Soooo much has changed since the days of Windows 7

[dense wigeon]

Hahaha, no longer the 9600GT

[icy quail]

Not sure which channel to put this in, but recently I've had this problem to where I will leave my computer alone for a bit and the displays will just turn black and then they wont get detected through HDMI or the Display port. It will show up as "inactive" after it has happened. The only way I've seen to fix it is through restarting the system entirely. I've put it to never sleep and never turn off display with a set time so I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on what it may be.

Thanks

[muted patio]

PCI-E slot going to sleep

Check the PCI-E power management in Power settings and set it to max performance?

[icy quail]

@muted patio through this?

[muted patio]

Set to ryzen balanced if amd

And adjust that profile

[icy quail]

Alright I'll see if that works

thanks

[wanton cliff]

2070 super power with 12 gigs of vram

Ok

Oh also

I’m still getting that flickering when I stream through discord

[fervent hound]

Ok, it was suggested that I come here so here I am

[wanton cliff]

Mhmm

[fervent hound]

So I have a 2018 model mac mini that I'm trying to pick a new monitor for now. I'm probably looking for a medium level type monitor because I'd like to do some digital art, but also I'm not going to be able to afford a more expensive monitor.

For instance I was looking at this one: ab Asus model

[wanton cliff]

That’s a gaming monitor

1440p, 165hz

[fervent hound]

Yeah, but it'll work for digtial art too I assume?

[wanton cliff]

1440p would be nice but that 165hz would be useless to you

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

Any 1440p or higher monitor would be great

[celest horizon]

https://rtings.com

[wanton cliff]

You forgot the //

[fervent hound]

Ok, I'll check that.

[celest horizon]

Figure out what kind of color gamut coverage you need, dci-p3, s-rgb etc

[wanton cliff]

You should pin that in #old-monitors-and-tv

[fervent hound]

I'm also obviously looking for an open box sale or refurb if possible.

My first mac mini was refurb and it saved me $100

[celest horizon]

@wanton cliff go look at the pins there lol

[wanton cliff]

It’s already there isn’t it

[fervent hound]

I might potentially do online gaming later so I wouldn't mind if the monitor has gaming features, but now I can't afford to add a gaming system on top of a new monitor

[wanton cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-24/p/0JC-0006-00UR2?Item=9SIAHRCBG69649&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAHRCBG69649-_-02192021

Ew

Wegg

Fix your linking system

[fervent hound]

thanks, that sounds like a good feature to learn about...Feel like I'm getting myself a crash course on monitors

[wanton cliff]

I’m not qualified to teach that much about monitors

But you aren’t really going to be doing gaming on a Mac mini

[celest horizon]

rtigns and tftcentral will be the best places to start reading

Then maybe search google with
site:reddit.com/r/monitors photoshop graphical design work
or something

[fervent hound]

Alright. I did find out that a game I was interested in trying called dayz won't work on it.

[wanton cliff]

Mac isn’t really made for gaming

Maybe a windows machine

[fervent hound]

So probably won't go much out of my way for gaming features

[wanton cliff]

Or Linux with VMs

Yeah

Higher refresh rate makes it more expensive

And it’s useless to you

I’m pretty sure MacOS is locked at 60 anyways

Is it not?

Whatever

Digital art doesn’t need more than 60 FPS

Only really gaming does

[maiden meteor]

I have an msi b450 tomahawk max and im unsure how to enable the sata ports so i can use the hdd any advice or solutions?

[wanton cliff]

Do you have an M.2 SSD installed?

[maiden meteor]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

Which slot

1 or 2

[maiden meteor]

The m.2 or the sata?

[wanton cliff]

M.2

Wait first

[maiden meteor]

1 i think thers only 1 slot

[wanton cliff]

Do you have the HDD plugged into both SATA power and the motherboard?

[maiden meteor]

Yeah

It shows up in my bios

[wanton cliff]

Ooooh

I thought you meant SATA wasn’t showing up at all

Lol

Go to windows

Right click the windows button

Go to disk management

Right click the disk

Initialize it

[maiden meteor]

Its doesn’t show up in windows though

But ill give it a try

Ohhhhhh i seeee

How do i initilize it...

Also thanks

[wanton cliff]

Right click it

I think add partition or something like that?

It should be the only option you can select on the disk

[maiden meteor]

It says convert to dynamic disk or convert to mbr then properties and help

[wanton cliff]

Can you send a picture please?

[wanton cliff]

You right clicked the black part?

[maiden meteor]

Okay thats right clicking the black part i do simple volume?

[wanton cliff]

Yep

[maiden meteor]

Oh thanks it worked first build blues

[wanton cliff]

Nice

[maiden meteor]

Much appreciated

[wise sorrel]

Thoughts on this for a cheap build for a buddy? Playing warzone, Valheim..etc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JGqKbh

[wanton cliff]

I would get a different Mobo

And a different case

And a Phanteks AMP 750w instead of that PSU

[wise sorrel]

I've hear corsairs good lol

[wanton cliff]

Perhaps TUF B550, Phanteks P400a.

[wise sorrel]

In seeking something in the 1k range for him

[wanton cliff]

Wait one

Where is the GPU?

[wise sorrel]

Dunno what one I wanna use yet lol

[wanton cliff]

Well

That list is already 1k

Soooo

[wise sorrel]

Oorrrr would the pre-built of the hp omen obelisk be a good snag?

[wanton cliff]

Not likely

Omen prebuilts aren’t great

[fervent hound]

This would have been a good place for me to go when I was picking a new computer.

[wanton cliff]

Correct

[stoic island]

Uh

[wanton cliff]

Uh?

[wise sorrel]

Whats a good pre-built then?

[fervent hound]

I was so irritated with my monitor incompatibility issues with my mac mini, I was thinking of selling it though

[wanton cliff]

That might be a good idea. Sell it and get a windows machine.

[stoic island]

@wise sorrel only prebuilt I'd go for is like from buildredux, or spend more on smth like from xoticpc

Sometimes there are good ABS prebuilts on Newegg too

[wise sorrel]

Abs?

It's for a buddy so he has about a 1k ish budget

[fervent hound]

I do prefer mac computers, only aspect I disliked was the monitor issues.

[wanton cliff]

And that’s a valid opinion

Windows is generally more compatible with... well, everything

[fervent hound]

I do have an older windows customized type of computer that I'd like to tinker with one of these days and if it's worth getting it working or repair it.

[wanton cliff]

How old?

What version of windows does it run?

[fervent hound]

Not sure off hand.

I'm not even at my place so I can't walk over and look at it.

It was the type of computer where someone buys the components and puts it together.

So I was under the impression it was a very good computer.

I thought maybe one of these days I'd see if it was worth repairing and or replacing some components with newer parts ( basically repairring and upgrading it at the same time)

[wanton cliff]

You would need to upgrade the mobo

And with how that works if it is as old as I think it is, you might as well be building a new computer

[fervent hound]

Oh OK.

I'm going to go over a lot of older equipment I have around to decide what if anything is worth keeping

I have two or three scanners and two or three printers.

I also have another older monitor that I can't connect to my mac minis so it only connects to this older customized windows computer

[wanton cliff]

Mac mini just uses HDMI right?

[fervent hound]

Not sure.

My older two mac minis and my newer one take different monitor plugs

[uncut estuary]

just played minecraft on the new pc

[fervent hound]

Also the one here takes the same kind of monitor plug that my newer one takes. I think it's a 2014 model

[uncut estuary]

with optifine on low settings it runs at around 40 fps

pretty bad

[fervent hound]

I saved the webpage recommended earlier, looks useful

[desert gulch]

Specs?

[frozen axle]

hey guys i just had my pc crash unkown what the issue is rn basically my pc randomly shut down but the rgb on my mobo and ram were still on unsure if gpu rgb was on or not but cpu fan stops spinning then after a second or two my rgb is off then i cant even turn it back on after a minute or two. after those one or two minutes my mobo rgb turns back on which remains on even when the system is shut down then i can power back on the system with the power button no clue whats wrong all reliability history says is this

[muted patio]

Download this and run it. Hit analyze, then scroll down in the box. It will tell a reason for the crash: https://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe

[frozen axle]

the first time this happened was when the system was basically just idle ig i had discord and maybe some razer software open with like riot vangaurd the 2nd time was in the middle of a league of legends game with discord and those software open

i tried whocrashed doesnt say anything

[uncut estuary]

its only the cpu

[frozen axle]

this is issue happened after a repaste but temps seem perfectly normal

[uncut estuary]

everything else is great

its a dual core 2.4 Ghz xeon

[muted patio]

Event viewer, Windows Logs, Application, look for an Application error

[frozen axle]

nothing at the time of crash which according to reliability history is at 7:41 nearest issues are 7:14 and 7:42 which both are xboxgamingoverlay

nothing at the last crash either which was 2/17 around 9:38

[muted patio]

And what about the xboxgamingoverlay?

If there's nothing there, check System tab

If nothing there, run Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk /r and sfc /scannow.

Admin level command prompt for the last two

[frozen axle]

xboxgamingoverlay doesnt seem like a huge issue whatever it is

on system around time of crash

thats for the critical event at 7:41:45pm

this started happening after i repasted my cpu and screwed in my cpu cooler

if i screwed in my cpu cooler too tight would that be an issue that could cause this?

[half badger]

Hey yall, what atx case can i buy that ca show off my psu? My psu is 1200w rog thor 80+ platinum thanks alot

[frozen axle]

it boots perfectly fine and functions but randomly crashed twice for unknown reasons

[icy quail]

@muted patio didnt seem to work :(

[muted patio]

What didn't work

[muted patio]

If nothing there, run Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk /r and sfc /scannow.
Admin level command prompt for the last two

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qphsBc

hey can someone make reccs pls

thanks

i was planning to add a 2060 or something once they are at holy pricing

[pseudo jetty]

Is the amd stock cooler enough for ryzen 5 3600xt?

[rancid lodge]

Mhm, it works just fine.

Maybe a bit so-so if you wanna overclock it but it should still keep it stable even then

heavily overclock it that is

[slate geyser]

Looking to put this together in April, anyone have any tips, suggestions etc ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BC4Xp2

[rancid lodge]

Do you need 64 gigs of RAM

Otherwise looks good at 3600 for a 10th gen i9

[slate geyser]

No but I got a very good deal on it

[rancid lodge]

yeah that's not a bad price but honestly it's just not worth spending all that extra money to get 64

best to go with 32

unless you're building a workstation you typically won't need more than 32

[slate geyser]

I got 64 for 280

[rancid lodge]

oh it says 347 on the list, if you got 3600 64 gb for 280 then yeah

[slate geyser]

I did not pay the prices that are show ni n th elist

[rancid lodge]

Ah alr

yeah 64 gigs at 3600 is pretty good for 280 USD actually

[slate geyser]

I paid 199 for mobo

410 for procesor

[rancid lodge]

sounds about right

[slate geyser]

I should update them to its more accurate

[austere vale]

I'd probably stick to 32gb and try and put the extra money into a 3080 or faster nvmes

[rancid lodge]

I paid 219 for my X570 tuf gaming pro so the plus sounds about right at 199

[rancid lodge]

yeah

[slate geyser]

im not budget bound I just cant get my hands on a 3080

If i could I would trade in my 3070

[still roost]

SniperBoss207#3153 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rancid lodge]

oops I used bad word

uh

[slate geyser]

lol

[rancid lodge]

ig if you need the money to buy from insert bad word scalpers or resellers then

better not to support them though

[slate geyser]

Yeah while im not budget bound im not going to throw money away either lol

[rancid lodge]

mhm

so yeah if that's the case 64 is just too overkill, go with some faster 32gb, like 3800, 4000 may be a bit too much for the 10900k

dunno though

I was gonna go with the 10900k but amd kicking intel around with the 5000 series is funni so

trying to grab a 5900x

[slate geyser]

I was too for a while, when the 10900k went on sale I decided let me get this now

[rancid lodge]

Yeah, retailers trying to take weight off of the higher demand stuff is a win-win for everyone

I'm hoping to grab a 5900x next week, looking like it'll be the perfect storm as far as timings go

looking at a likely best buy restock, AMD direct does thursdays, and maybe newegg lol

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qphsBc

Recs pls

Lmk if I can get more for less, or am spending too much on something

[wise sorrel]

A bb restocking?

[slate geyser]

Good luck! I am rooting for you

[wise sorrel]

Sorry tagged the wrong thing lol

[little osprey]

Bruh are y’all just not responding

Good one

Whatever I’ll just leave it

[rancid lodge]

Thanks, gonna be watching real hard all next week for it.

[rancid lodge]

And yeah they seem to restock Tuesday’s and Wednesday’s every two weeks for the 5900x at least

[potent portal]

No need to be rude
Parts look good to me

[slate geyser]

What is your budget?

[little osprey]

Lol how am I being rude

[slate geyser]

By throwing a tantrum

[little osprey]

I just got put on three times

Lol okay neckbeards

[slate geyser]

^ again Rude

[potent portal]

And now you're resorting to name calling

Grow up

Not everyone is available the minute you need them for something, especially this time in the evening. 10 minutes and then throwing a fit makes you look 12.

[slate geyser]

And then lashing out by calling us "neckbeards" makes you look 5

[wise sorrel]

I'll have to hit them up on Tuesday then haha ty

[slate geyser]

He giving away golden tips

haha

[rancid lodge]

I’ve been watching it so closely I’ve got this stuff down lol

[potent portal]

BB didn't restock this week so yeah probably Tuesday next week

[rancid lodge]

Mhm

I’m counting on it, today for my Bday I didn’t get the epic victory I wanted but I do have hope for next week

[wise sorrel]

Or real beards, viking style!

[slate geyser]

Samsung 980 pro is pointless over 970 Evo right now if you are on intel right?

[slate geyser]

Im clean shaven haha

[potent portal]

The amount of benefit you'd get varies by what you'd be using it for

[slate geyser]

boot drive

[rancid lodge]

Idk the specs of the 980 pro over the 970

[slate geyser]

run current game off it

[rancid lodge]

I need to look into m.2s cause I need at least one 1TB m.2

[slate geyser]

Thats what im doing now haha

[potent portal]

There's a little more shallow queue IOPS and sequential speed on the 980

But not much of that would benefit the average person

[slate geyser]

would you say that price difference is worth that benefit f

[rancid lodge]

Yeah okay not exactly worth the extra cost over the 970 for just the average Joe

[potent portal]

Deep queue IOPS are the same, write speed is almost the same...

[slate geyser]

Yeah im not doing heavy workload or anything

[potent portal]

I'd say not worth spending twice as much for it

[slate geyser]

I was also gonna get a 660 2tb for storage

860*

[rancid lodge]

Yeah definitely not

[slate geyser]

What about this one Mushkin Enhanced Pilot-E M.2?

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-1tb/p/N82E16820226901

[potent portal]

A lot of the "techie"s here won't recommend getting a 970 even, there's equally good cheaper drives

Mushkin is a little... iffy

I had 3 die on me

[slate geyser]

dammm

what would you reccomend?

I am returning the ADATA I got

[potent portal]

SN750 is $10 cheaper, and well recommended

(comparing 1TB M.2 models)

[slate geyser]

Is there any performance diff from 500GB to 1TB?

[final thicket]

ive been using wd blacks

never disappointed me

[potent portal]

I've never had any WD fail on me, a couple HDDs I had lasted over 10 years

[final thicket]

wana see extreme hangs!?

[desert gulch]

Well 970 used to be 60 bucks for a 500

[potent portal]

It depends on the model, some of them yes the more compacted NAND makes faster speeds but other it doesn't matter

[desert gulch]

So it used to be a rly good deal

[slate geyser]

For the SN750?

[potent portal]

For that one yes, there's a difference

The 1TB has faster write speeds and IOPS

And more write endurance

[slate geyser]

The 1tb is better !

[slate geyser]

I am looking at 500GB for the boot and work drives

and 1TB for storage

the 1tb SATA

[potent portal]

Keep your games on the 1 TB storage with more IOPS for (slightly) better load times

[slate geyser]

Now my config im looking at 1TB m.2, 1 500GB m.2 and 1 TB SATA

as were talking

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bppdwz

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SNHB4RC?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=tomshardware-us-1430456603361275000-20&geniuslink=true

[little osprey]

So my friends got computers from ibuypower with an i7-10700k and RTX 2070 supers, they only run 10fps faster than me in almost all games and I'm running an old i9 and an over clocked 580 is there anything we can do about it

[fossil halo]

uh

what do u wanna do with it

sell it?

[potent portal]

Do they have 1 stick of RAM in it?
Single channels of memory is a common mistake they put into prebuilts

[little osprey]

It is a dual channel

Is it ok to send a picture of it?

[potent portal]

Sure

[potent portal]

If you can get CPU-Z screenshots of the CPU and SPD (slot 2) tabs we can narrow down those specs

[little osprey]

Alright

[potent portal]

If it's just garbage RAM like I suspect easy fix

Or maybe XMP isn't on

[little osprey]

It could be I asked about everything other than the ram when they got it

[potent portal]

Often what happens

[little osprey]

Yea you can see the psu but it's a special made one for the case, woo

[muted patio]

I'll bet it's a cheap low end motherboard limiting ram speed

[potent portal]

Perhaps, but it could simply be they didn't enable XMP when they built it

Once I see the SPD tab we can compare the max speed to the current speed on the RAM tab

[little osprey]

It's going to be fun getting a non tech person to do that while I'm not there

[muted patio]

According to the website

It should be a Z490 board

[potent portal]

It's a pretty simple program to run

All they need to do is screenshot it

[little osprey]

That actually sounds about right from what I remember

[muted patio]

I'm on their website right now looking at parts

And if it's RGB RAM, all they list is Corsair vengeance with no speed

Ah wait

It's DDR4-3000

WIth options to upgrade up to DDR4 3600

so it could be any of them

[little osprey]

It would be the lowest as they tried to save money on dumb places

[muted patio]

MSI Ventus 2070

Even with 3000 ram, it shouldn't be terribly slow

[potent portal]

Not total garbage for Intel at least, if it was AMD that would be holding it back

[muted patio]

Yeah, they running 1440p maybe?

RTX on?

[little osprey]

Rtx off they don't like the performance dip

[potent portal]

Can't blame them, first gen RT is pretty... rough

[little osprey]

They averaged 75fps while I was averaging around 65fps in most games we played

Either they are underperforming or I am way over performing

[potent portal]

Same settings I assume?

[little osprey]

Yea actually

[potent portal]

Yeah a 10700/2070 should be doing much better than that

[muted patio]

Yep. I'd presume driver updates need to happen

[little osprey]

I can't base my pc off much as my i9 is pre production and has some performance benefits from the final product

[potent portal]

What generation i9?

Oh duh it's in your name

[little osprey]

In everything it labels itself as the i7 7900x

[muted patio]

Regardless of CPU, the 2070 should get much higher frames'

[little osprey]

Yea that 2070 has me a bit worried

[potent portal]

Yeah the 580 shouldn't be getting anywhere near the 2070

Something else is holding it back

[little osprey]

Even as over clocked as it is I should not be getting close to any 2070 super

[muted patio]

Nope. I'd do a DDU for the GPU drivers and make sure all the other motherboard drivers are up to date from the manufacturer

I'll check to see what they used

[little osprey]

I can try getting them to do driver updates and see if that helps anything tommorow

[muted patio]

Looks like it's an Asus Prime Z490

Drivers from here should work https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-P/HelpDesk_Download/

[little osprey]

K

Thank you I will try tommorow, I need to sleep

[waxen obsidian]

Gotta get dat sleep boi

[little osprey]

Sleep gang

[sharp blade]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GXjtqp

How is it now?
I think the Dark hero is a bit expensive

Wait what is the normal price of the Dark hero?

[compact pebble]

Do y’all think it’s better to get a 144hz monitor with 8gb of ram or 75hz monitor with 16gb of ram

[muted patio]

Def 16 GB of ram. 8 GB just doesn't cut it anymore

[hollow grail]

that depends on the gpu/cpu

id rather have bad ram and not trash display

than good ram and trash display

[pseudo cypress]

Posting again to get more details

Hi everyone, im looking for a ram and stumbled on the vengeane rgb pro 16 gb 3600mhz cl16. however, ive seen 2 models of it with one being priced a lot higher than the other. is there a difference between the 2? im using a x570 and ryzen 3600 if that helps

model being compared: CMW16GX4M2K3600C16 vs CMW16GX4M2D3600C16

TIA!!

[compact pebble]

3 3100 and rx 570 4gb

[little osprey]

nice

[hollow grail]

depending on games id get 144hz but id also heavily advise you to just save till you get both

[compact pebble]

Ok thxs

[muted patio]

One is probs Micron E die or Samsung Die, the other is probably Hynix

[hollow grail]

hynix

[muted patio]

One of those kits has the same timings as Ballistix

The other has the same timings as my G SKill Hynix

[muted patio]

If you're not going to overclock ram just get the cheaper of the two kits

[pseudo cypress]

Thank you so much @muted patio and @hollow grail . Really appreciate it! Now i can decide better. Cheers!

[hollow grail]

❤️

[uncut estuary]

good morning guys

[wanton cliff]

Good aftermorning

[fossil atlas]

quick question, is thermal paste for the CPU required?

[muted patio]

Yes

Always

[fossil atlas]

alright just making sure

[muted patio]

Stock coolers usually have it already applied to the cooler

[languid mantle]

Hello guys ! I use an i7 7700k processor at a frequency of 4.5 ,recently I bought a rtx 3070 and I replaced the old gtx 1080, in games like warzone the processor is at 100% and I have pretty big frame drops from 110 to 40 ... it will be a considerable difference if I change the processor with an i9 9900k , or to move on to the next generation , Thanks !!!

[wanton cliff]

ok then

do it

[hollow grail]

i think theyre asking if it will be

and the answer is to get 10th gen

or 11th gen

[wanton cliff]

preferably wait till 11th gen

which will be on DDR5, no? Or is that 12th gen?

[muted patio]

11th gen DDR4

Coming in March

[wanton cliff]

so 12th gen on DDR5 then

fun

[muted patio]

Maybe

Same with AM5, also a maybe

[wanton cliff]

i doubt its a maybe at this point

im positive AM5 will be DDR5

intel is a wild card tho

[hollow grail]

intel too busy making super cool stuff to care abt ddr5

[muted patio]

You mean, too busy playing catch up

[wanton cliff]

imagine no line of dGPUs

smh

[languid mantle]

thanks for answer guys !

[hollow grail]

too busy making cool networking gear

[visual halo]

is undervolt worth it?

[wanton cliff]

what are you trying to undervolt and why?

[visual halo]

i wanted to reduce heat?

[wanton cliff]

on...?

[visual halo]

CPU

[muted patio]

Stock cooler?

[visual halo]

nop

[muted patio]

It's not going to hurt anything but the payoff for the effort is debatable

Plus with silicon lottery you may or may not get desirable results. It's just like overclocking

[prime plover]

Guys is a ryzen 5 3600 going to bottleneck my 3070? Or decrease the performance somehow?

[muted patio]

It'll be fine

[prime plover]

I was orignally going to go with a ryzen 7 3700 but I heard from other people that a 5 3600 was pretty much the same but cheaper

[muted patio]

Only caveat is 3200 vs 3600 mhz ram

SLight increase with 3600

[prime plover]

Okay yeah.

I also heard from you that dual channel was much faster than single channel and yet I have seen conflicting videos that say that is a myth.

[muted patio]

wat

[prime plover]

Yeah let me check. I think it was a jayz two cents or something

[muted patio]

It's certainly not a myth lol

[prime plover]

let me see I may have just come up with something\

ram effects texture quality, right

?

[muted patio]

I mean, for gaming, not really but anything else, yes

Like, if you want to stream and/or edit videos, it certainly makes a huge difference

[prime plover]

Mmm yeah no that's not really my thing.

There are so many people streaming nowadays and youtubing that there's really no chance of getting big.

Even if you have talent or anything.

Also are there any videos for building a pc for an absolute noob. I have never built a pc before so all the things that a seasoned pro takes as common knowledge I don't know.

[muted patio]

Hmmm, in actual games though, there is an FPS increase running dual channel

Espeically with the low 1% frames

30 FPS difference in Metro Exodus

Single channel

Dual channel

[fossil halo]

metro exodus is a poggers game

im not even close to it tho

still tryna beat metro 2033

[desert vine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FyryRT

Yay nay?

[tough gorge]

I'm curious why you went with 4x500GB SSDs when a single 2TB SSD is like $40 cheaper

and way less cables

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h3GBYg

no reason why u wanted 4x 500gb ssd

unless maybe youre running them in a raid

either way i kept the basic config @desert vine

[tough gorge]

@hollow grail want to take a look at my build? its already built but I plan to upgrade it a couple pieces a month

I marked off the stuff thats already installed

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/wolfkingdemon/saved/YXNdD3

[uncut pelican]

Change the psu

[hollow grail]

get the p31 gold

[uncut pelican]

Oh wait

Nvm

[hollow grail]

and not those headphones

and not that wd ssd

and also not that sound card either

[viral ore]

and internal sound cards are very susceptible to ground plane noise

that 2070s might interfere too much

thats not even that good of a sound card

just use the onboard audio at that point, there would be less interference

[hollow grail]

@tough gorge

just makin sure ur here

[viral ore]

also why on earth so much ssd

[hollow grail]

why not

[viral ore]

4tb external ssd?

[hollow grail]

i have 4tb of ssd in my pc

[viral ore]

thats you

[hollow grail]

and like 8tb of external ssds

external ssd is kind of a meme tho

[viral ore]

once again thats you

[hollow grail]

there are 2 use cases for it

[viral ore]

you alone are your own niche market

[hollow grail]

one is super fast usb drive

honestly true

id also get a better cooler

[fossil halo]

wow

i have

1 512gb ssd

[viral ore]

wants 150 in RGB fans

gets a 212 evo

[hollow grail]

spend the 150 on an ek aio

[little osprey]

aio

[hollow grail]

they clearly want dumb rgb

[little osprey]

I joined air cooler gang lol

[wanton cliff]

What Mobo, case, and GPU are good for a 3600, Hyper 212, 16 gigs of 3600mhz CL18 RAM, and 650w PSU?

[little osprey]

b550 and 3070 🤔

[potent portal]

Nothing wrong with either air/liquid, I went AIO because I like overclocking

[little osprey]

my aio failed so I joined to air cooling gang lol

[wanton cliff]

I don’t want to pay too much

[fossil halo]

ew cl18

[wanton cliff]

For the 3070

[austere vale]

My current build I just went with fans for now to save some initial money and so far it has been pretty good. Two front intake, two top exhaust, one rear exhaust all 120mm. Wraith prism cooler on 3700x. Haven't seen anything over 60s and 70s so far.

[wanton cliff]

It’s all parts I already have

[turbid blade]

you looking for atx?

[fossil halo]

ah then just go for like a 2060 or smth ig?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

[fossil halo]

isnt sara the goat at the pc builds

i dont understand

[tough gorge]

@viral ore I got that for free

[turbid blade]

asus tuf x570?

[tough gorge]

so I just added it since I have it

was a gift

[little osprey]

market is mess right now but you can buy 3060ti or wait for 3060 🤔

[wanton cliff]

I know

[hollow grail]

no thats me

[wanton cliff]

I’m willing to wait till Mining isn’t profitable anymore

[little osprey]

lmao

[austere vale]

Rig I built around my 3070 was 3700x, msi b550 mag mortar wifi, 2 x 16gb hyper fury x 3600mhz, 1tb 980 evo pro

[tough gorge]

and when will that be

[wanton cliff]

Soon

Faster if Nvidia unlocks the 3060 drivers for mining

And doesn’t make the idiotic ‘mining’ cards they are making that are little more than e-waste

[little osprey]

I think amd cards are better for mining 🤔

[austere vale]

What are the chances of that happening?

[wanton cliff]

Wdym?

[potent portal]

What AMD cards? There's none available right now lol

[austere vale]

Nvidia unlocking 3060 drivers

[wanton cliff]

AMD cards exist? Lmao.

[potent portal]

They need to launch it before we speculate on that

[little osprey]

lol I meant 6000series but yeah 😂

[wanton cliff]

Oh. Idk. It would be smart though.

[potent portal]

Nvidia has more stock than AMD right now at least

[little osprey]

7nm sux

[little osprey]

not happening

[little osprey]

neither is that

[wanton cliff]

We will see

[little osprey]

The mining cards they're making are good if they are priced under what 30 series equivalent would be

the 90HX if its over 700$ yeah its stupid

[wanton cliff]

They are e-waste

[austere vale]

I'd agree at least in my country. My local shop has nvidia cards restocking at least once a week. Though 3080 is a bit longer between cycles

[wanton cliff]

Nothing more

Nothing less

[hollow grail]

mining cards are fantastic

[little osprey]

when Ethereum goes to proof-of-stake i would much rather sell them or melt them down for the copper/gold in them

Intel having best stock right now lol 😂

[hollow grail]

if theyre actually priced below what retail is

[wanton cliff]

And what normal person is able to do that?

[little osprey]

likely can't sell them though

[little osprey]

anybody

the chemicals aren't hard to get

just need time

[austere vale]

Would there be any point in mining with a 3070?

[wanton cliff]

90% of people or more are just going to send them to the landfill when they don’t have resell value anymore

[little osprey]

sure if you deduct it as a business expense

if you're treating it as passive income

[hollow grail]

they will always have resale value

[tough gorge]

What's wrong with the SSD

[hollow grail]

lol

[hollow grail]

slo

[wanton cliff]

The mining cards?

[hollow grail]

pilot e 2tb time

[hollow grail]

yes

because they arent just for mining lul

[wanton cliff]

Tell me: remember the mining craze of 2018? And how it happened and then didn’t?

[austere vale]

I'm already claiming my new rig back on account of it being used for work now that I have worked from home for almost a year.

[hollow grail]

i know datacenters that still run hundreds of those cards

for HPC and transcode

[little osprey]

you're good then

i would buy 3060ti's or 3080s though

[turbid blade]

lol, what is this "A.M.D." you speak of?

[little osprey]

better ROI times

to be honest sometimes i thinking about mining too 🤔

[wanton cliff]

The people who use them for mining aren’t going to be able to use them for more than that soon.

[little osprey]

have you heard of ravencoin

orrrr

[wanton cliff]

The coin barely worth more than a dollar?

[austere vale]

I would of got a 3080 had it been available, but my laptop died and I needed a replacement quick. Figure I hold on the 3070 for now and can sell it later and get a 3080.

[wanton cliff]

Wait

[tough gorge]

I'm actually mining RVN right now

[wanton cliff]

Lemme check price

[tough gorge]

23 cents

ish

[little osprey]

its very close to eth mining profit rn

[little osprey]

why

ethereum is still more profitable

[hollow grail]

they sell them to datacenters or consumers that wanna mess with drivers

[tough gorge]

everyone is mining ETH though

[little osprey]

so?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah it’s only worth .26 run

[little osprey]

doesn't change anything

[austere vale]

Any good sources to get a beginner up and running with mining?

[little osprey]

its still very close to eth profit

[tough gorge]

so what are the odds I actually get even one block

[little osprey]

do you not mine in a pool????

[wanton cliff]

Aren’t you the one who said ‘I don’t care about coins worth less than a dollar’ earlier?

[little osprey]

except ravencoin is well known

[tough gorge]

I actually need advice about what software to use for mining

[wanton cliff]

Mining software

Lol

[little osprey]

mining under windows sux

[potent portal]

Debating between trolling and recommending dogecoin or warning against the trolls...

[turbid blade]

actually get a dedicated machine designed to mine (ASIC) and don't mess around with this GPU bs.

[little osprey]

Also

i said under 25 cents

[tough gorge]

dogecoin lmao

[little osprey]

wrong

only for rigs

fresh installs are almost no different than windows

Linux is used for UI capabilities

[tough gorge]

dogecoin would have been the thing to mine before the craze

[hollow grail]

rvn is wellknown

[little osprey]

no

dogecoin is bad

stupid meme coin

[potent portal]

VERY bad

[little osprey]

my friend had mining rig and he told me windows is unstable for mining rig 🤔

[hollow grail]

and imo ravencoin is the coolest sounding crypto

[little osprey]

only good for short term gains

[tough gorge]

still worth $500 a block

[little osprey]

wha

[potent portal]

It's so easy to mine it's constantly deflating in value

[little osprey]

You can use it for a mining rig its just easier to use linux

there is no bad side to using windows

just more advantages on linux

[potent portal]

No less stable than Windows is normally 🤣

[little osprey]

he had something different 🤔

[turbid blade]

yeah

[tough gorge]

I'm not looking to make big money yet, just supplement my current paychecks and save up for better mining rigs

[little osprey]

i was actually getting less mh on linux than windows for my 3080

[potent portal]

Linux drivers probably the reason for that

[little osprey]

no point unless you're deducting the rigs cost

eth is gonna move to proof of stake decently soon

ravencoin might not last

[tough gorge]

true enough

I don't have to worry about electricity bill so that doesnt matter

[little osprey]

hate the miners that buy a 3070 rig then just sell the GPUS the second they make their money back

lol

[potent portal]

Lol whats the point

[little osprey]

Like its so dumb

[wanton cliff]

Maybe AMD cards would be better on Linux but def not Nvidia cards

[little osprey]

they don't even deduct them as a business expense even though they can

[little osprey]

thats what i want to do lmao 😂😂

[little osprey]

30 series is just too new

[hollow grail]

uptime

[little osprey]

you should restart every 24 hours anyways cmon man!

[tough gorge]

so should I go straight for ETH?

[little osprey]

?

[potent portal]

For the time being ETH is a good investment

[little osprey]

i would focus on getting a better job unless you're buying 3080 rigs

[potent portal]

Watch the market for when that changes

[little osprey]

way too much effort for a small amount of money

esp on 30 series

you have to put time in to get the cards

then setting up the rigs

I being on computer all day long anyways so I think I can manage a mining rig same time 🤔

[turbid blade]

anyone who buys gpus exclusively for mining is a chump. ASICs are the way to go.

[little osprey]

spending time doing your taxes deducting them as a business expense

etc

[little osprey]

Not for ethereum lmao

[turbid blade]

is eth not hashing?

[little osprey]

GPUs for BTC isn't profitable

[little osprey]

GPUs are still more efficient?

ASICs are way too high in power draw

even worse ewaste

[hollow grail]

mining is stupid

just own a hosting company like me