building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

Corsair 4000D airflow is popular

[safe dawn]

Yes

[little osprey]

quick question

I want to upgrade my ram

32gb to 64 cause why not, it'll help for blender.

however my main issue is corsair sells ram in versions

You can't buy a specific version, the version you get is the die that is in it

I read that running 2 different dies can cause BSODS

would it be possible to buy LPX and then rma it if I get a bad die and crashing.

[sacred magnet]

Will a b365m motherboard work with 3060 ti?

[blazing aurora]

graphics cards don't need to be compatible with motherboards

so the 3060ti will work

[earnest olive]

@little osprey sell lpx and buy good ram imo

running 2 different dies doesn't necessarily cause bsods

but it'll make overclocking/xmp really weird

might have to run jedec to be stable lol

might not

hard to know

i just wouldn't gamble more lpx

secondhand market is a seller's market rn for sure

[junior mural]

nvm

[dapper geode]

Hey all. I haven't built a pc since the late 90s and am in need of some advice. Is this the place?

I'm building a pc for productivity and occasional gaming. Would like a system capable of photo editing using Adobe suite, 4k video editing (family videos shot on mobile), and using CAD (Chief Architect).

I was guided by a few and bought everything needed. Now that I have everything in hand I'm not so sure if this system is adequate enough.

[muted patio]

Budget? 4K editing takes some horsepower if you don't want to wait ages for it to render out.

[hollow grail]

yea video editing needs thicc cpu and lotsa ram

and nvenc/quicksync

https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/content_creation/index.php

[wanton cliff]

What are your specs?

[dapper geode]

I spent 1950 so far. Asus Prime Z590M-PLUS, i5 10th Gen 10600kf, gtx 1650 super, 750w Antec PU, 32gb ram, H60 cooler,

[wanton cliff]

[dapper geode]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

Whoever recommended those parts for $1950 is a dumbass

Pure and simple

[dapper geode]

All from newegg

Paid 600 for the gpu. I get that they are in high demand and understand the inflation

[wanton cliff]

No

You spent $600 on a GPU not worth more than $150

[hollow grail]

oh my god

600 for a 1650

[wanton cliff]

And one that can’t really do 4K anything

[dapper geode]

Yea I know. It's arriving today.

[hollow grail]

hey i have a bridge for sale

[wanton cliff]

Ok so

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

Return as much as you can (except for the RAM, unless you payed more than $180 for it)

And maybe the PSU

[hollow grail]

return that card lol

actually just return everything

[wanton cliff]

No offense tho

We get that this probably wasn’t really your fault

For nearly $2000 you can get a pretty kick-ass rig, especially for 4K gaming/video editing and CADwork

[dapper geode]

Don't really care for 4k gaming as I have a ps5 but am using the pc for iracing.

[wanton cliff]

Ok that’s fine

A $2000 pc will be much better than any PlayStation but that’s whatever

Lemme make a list for you

[dapper geode]

Oh fore

Sure. Thanks

[hollow grail]

return everything

you got scammed

get your money back

and we can make you a non trash parts list

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQGMK3

[muted patio]

$600 for a 1650?

[wanton cliff]

I had one saved already

[dapper geode]

Thanks a lot

[hollow grail]

no p31 gold

bad

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dQgW7X

[severe axle]

what about mobo/psu price?

[hollow grail]

and cringe psu

[wanton cliff]

Did I not put the price in?

[hollow grail]

lame case too

[wanton cliff]

Huh

[wanton cliff]

The case is good

Hold on

[hollow grail]

case bad

[wanton cliff]

Lemme add prices and stuff

What PSU would you recommend?

[hollow grail]

leadex

[wanton cliff]

Fine

[dapper geode]

Paid about 250 for mb, plus 120 for psu antec

[hollow grail]

and is 4x 16gb cheaper than 2x 32gb

not that anything over 32 is useful

@dapper geode what software u use

[dapper geode]

Complete Adobe line up, sketch up, chief architect and was going to use older version of lumion for renders

[hollow grail]

then ur fine with that setup

that sara made

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6fChxc

This is $2200

I can bring it down if need be

[dapper geode]

Perfect. Thanks

[hollow grail]

ideally 2 ssd

for scratch

[wanton cliff]

Not needed

But he can add another if he wants one

[dapper geode]

I have 1tb m.2 drive

[hollow grail]

it is needed

for 4k

lol

[dapper geode]

10 tb ssd

[hollow grail]

then just add that in

and ur fine

[safe dawn]

6 month project completed today

[wanton cliff]

#build-pics

I like it tho

[warm swift]

@wanton cliff you know the parts to my brother's pc right?

[safe dawn]

Ok

Thnx

[wanton cliff]

No

[warm swift]

we talked about them yesterday

[wanton cliff]

I forgot

[warm swift]

the one with the i7-7700k and air cooler and z270 motherboard

[dapper geode]

Thanks a lot to all of you

[wanton cliff]

Np

[hollow grail]

:))

[wise sorrel]

So I am doing a white pc build, and had planned to go with an asus rog strix b550-a. However I may have access at a prime x570-pro for the same price. My concern is with the new generation ryzen chips (aiming for a 9 5900 or 7 5800) it requires a bios flash. Should I go for it? Can you flash it?

[wanton cliff]

And don’t buy for more than 1.2x MSRP @dapper geode

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff don't kill me

Lol

[wanton cliff]

No

Can’t flash the prime

[wise sorrel]

I keep asking questions

[wanton cliff]

It’s no problem

[wise sorrel]

Oh, well dang.

[wanton cliff]

You are better than that guy that comes in every day and asks the same question

[wise sorrel]

Would it be better to do the prim with like a 9 3900?

[wanton cliff]

Mmmm

No

[wise sorrel]

I'm just trying hard to learn

[warm swift]

basically im just asking i have like 270 motherboard which i think is an itx, i want to get a case that would make the motherboard look ok, so im asking which case is better the cooler master mastercase h500 or masterbox td500?

[wanton cliff]

You aren’t going to be overclocking, are you?

Chree

[wise sorrel]

Not aiming to but not opposed to it

[wanton cliff]

Arguably td500

[wanton cliff]

Then just get the b550

[warm swift]

but isnt it a bigger case?

[wanton cliff]

Better airflow

[mortal garnet]

itx in a mid tower looks a bit wonky

imo

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff ok ty ty

[warm swift]

is the h500 not good at airflow?

[wanton cliff]

Td500 is better

Idk about airflow on h500

[warm swift]

ik it is

ik its the better case your not wrong

[mortal garnet]

nzxt's case?

[warm swift]

but i have an itx motherboard, so im asking which would look better

[dapper geode]

👍🏾

[wise sorrel]

My phantecks mesh case is pretty nice and had some good reviews

[wanton cliff]

And?

[hollow grail]

who

[wanton cliff]

Epsolandude

[hollow grail]

dont buy for more than 1x msrp

oh my god i hate that person

[wanton cliff]

That’s going to be hard

[hollow grail]

i want mod for 5 mins so i can perma them

[wise sorrel]

It'll be harder, but I wouldn't spend more than 150 over msrp

[warm swift]

so you think that an itx motherboard with a big aircooler on it and ofcourse since the motherboard is itx the graphics card will be close to the cooler, ik your saying that the td500 is better at airflow and your not wrong there, but you think that those parts would look better in the td500 than the h500?

[wanton cliff]

Some cards are above Nvidia’s MSRP, most I’ve seen is 1.2x

[wanton cliff]

Idk about how they look

They’ll perform better in a TD500

Simple as that

[hollow grail]

msrp for the board partner

nvidia only controls founders msrp

[wanton cliff]

I know

[warm swift]

yeah so the problem is, is that my brother actually thinks im getting him a brand new, not a used one, yes ill change the case and make it look like brand new, but yeah thanks for the help, i guess ill get the td500

[wanton cliff]

But NVidia is kinda the standard for Nvidia cards

[hollow grail]

tell him to not be ungrateful

ez

[wanton cliff]

Done

A PC is PC

And that’s a pretty good PC

[warm swift]

told him that

[warm swift]

well thank you, im hoping he would be happy

[wanton cliff]

God, is this what it looks like to talk to me?

With all the replies?

[hollow grail]

just say hes not getting a pc at all if he complains

[warm swift]

thats actually the best idea ive heard in a while

[wanton cliff]

@hollow grail I don’t see epsolandude’s name if I search him in this server

Maybe he left

I hope he left

[hollow grail]

i hope he died

[hollow grail]

or just dont build him a pc at all

and get yourself an absolute monster

thats what id do 100%

[muted patio]

he changed his name

Can't remember to what though

[wanton cliff]

He and his O11 and AIO/Air cooler/ Custom Loop/ AIO again/ Air cooler despite us saying that the O11 doesn’t have great air cooling efficiency... etc

[hollow grail]

O11 best case

[warm swift]

no lol, i feel like that would be too harsh, and plus he hates me rn because he asked for a pc like more than 1 year and when i asked for a PS5 i got it, so hes pissed

[hollow grail]

well then sucks to be him

ur too nice lol

id just tell him to build his own

[severe axle]

you just spelled it wrong

[small osprey]

id tell him that if he wants it he should do it himself lmao

[hollow grail]

^^^^^^^^^^

[small osprey]

and then if he complains i just take all the money for myself

[warm swift]

Lmao

[hollow grail]

id do that but only the second part

kids are so spoiled

[wanton cliff]

/ wait he changed his CPU/ wait he is doing ITX now? / ok he is getting a new GPU that’s 3 years old / what the hell, he changed his CPU back to what it was originally / why is he getting a 1600w PSU unironically / etc etc...

[hollow grail]

just make him actually work for it

[warm swift]

thank you i guess lol

[warm swift]

he would probably ruin it and we would have spent our money on nothing

[hollow grail]

there is no we

he would have spent his money on nothing

[small osprey]

lmao

[hollow grail]

[warm swift]

hes still a little kid tho

[wanton cliff]

Idc

[hollow grail]

then he gets nothing

imo if you get a pc given to you

you dont deserve it

if you dont really work for it it isnt your rig

[small osprey]

^^^

[hollow grail]

100%

[wanton cliff]

What if someone gets you the parts but you build it?

[hollow grail]

not your rig

[small osprey]

that counts

[hollow grail]

its their rig that you built

and use

[small osprey]

i think as long as you build it yourself, its yours

[hollow grail]

nah

[wanton cliff]

What if I bought more than half the parts and the other half were given to me?

[hollow grail]

if you dont buy it yourself it isnt really yours

then maybe

[small osprey]

...

[wanton cliff]

What if I sold the old parts and used the money to get new parts?

[warm swift]

i mean the pc i currently have i picked the parts but i had someone build it for me, but its still considered mine tho

[hollow grail]

once you buy 100% of the parts and build it yourself youll get it

it feels different

[wanton cliff]

True

[warm swift]

i really want to build my own pc, but im too scared

[mortal garnet]

building a pc hits differently

[hollow grail]

all the people arguing with me just havent done that

[small osprey]

i mean, buying parts vs getting from someone else doesnt really matter imo

building vs someone else building matters

[hollow grail]

inb4 ssenti was given parts

[wanton cliff]

I bought 100% of my PC, from the P400a to the 750w AMP PSU, to the 3070 and everything in between

[hollow grail]

and is salt

[small osprey]

i too poor lmao

[warm swift]

i really want to build my own pc, it would feel like its a big accomplishment, but im too afraid to mess it up

[hollow grail]

i remember working hard to get all my parts and i love my build like its my kid

all my servers i also love but its not the same

my whiteboxes are like my kids

servers are like nephews

like my threadripper vm host is my baby

[warm swift]

ay guys like quick question, im getting the lian li o11D case, so do i mount my AIO on the top or the side?

[small osprey]

i would top

[hollow grail]

whatever you feel like you should do deep down in your heart

jk just put it top

side also looks cool tho

[small osprey]

and make sure you have like 10 fans

[warm swift]

i mean both would just look pretty good but i wanna do something that could stay with me for a couple of years

[warm swift]

9, im getting the normal o11d not the xl

ok another question, since ill be having 9 fans, ill have the aio on the top so ill have 3 fans there and 3 on the side and 3 on the bottom, i wanna do which ones do i do as intake or outtake

idk if i said that right

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff for that bios flash I'm going to need an older cpu won't i?

Or will it work perfectly fine for me to I stall it all and update it after?

[small osprey]

so aio on top (i assume its 360mm), then intake on side and bottom

the aio will act as exhaust

and maybe an exhaust fan in the rear too

[warm swift]

like the one fan?

[warm swift]

is that the best way?

[small osprey]

best for airflow yea

and one fan in the rear yea

[warm swift]

3 on top exhaust, the ones on the side and buttom are intake

[warm swift]

the o11 dynamic doesnt have space foro the rear one

so its going to be 9 fans not 10

[small osprey]

oh thats fine

[warm swift]

so your saying that 3 on top as exhaust, those are the ones that are going to be on the AIO, and the ones on side and bottom are intake

[small osprey]

yea

[warm swift]

is that the best way for any other case or just the lian li?

[mortal garnet]

typically with cases where you can mount fans under the gpu, you want intake from the bottom then exhaust up top

[small osprey]

thats best for all cases

[mortal garnet]

like a chimney

[small osprey]

except its normally front fans not side

[warm swift]

like that yeah?

[small osprey]

yea

[warm swift]

btw in the cooler master mastercase h500 how many fans can i mount on the top?

[fossil halo]

according to amazon you can fit 2x120, 2x140, or 1x200

[glacial umbra]

ok

[warm swift]

alright thank you so much

[glacial umbra]

I bought a 1070 ti for 150 USD

I'm being offered 370 USD for it

is it worth it to sell, buy like an RX 560 or 570 until the market dies back down, sell the rx 570 and buy a 3060?

[mortal garnet]

we have no idea when the market will die back down

[small osprey]

^^

[warm swift]

im sorry another question, if i wanted to vertical mount my gpu in the o11d, do i have to buy something so that could work? or does it come with the case?

[glacial umbra]

I know I'm not asking for time but is it a good idea or does stuff like that usually go wrong? I'm just worried about it for some reason

[fossil halo]

i think taht you can get a vertical mount adapter

for the o11

f

d

[mortal garnet]

if youre okay with having a 570 until possibly next year then go for it

[fossil halo]

that is true ig? bc ur making a 220$ profit

[mortal garnet]

i dont think stock will get better anytime soon

if anything covid is getting worse

[glacial umbra]

yeah I know, especially because in canada

We're being stupid about it

[mortal garnet]

Actually, I think i remember reading an article saying nvidia is re releasing 10 series cards, so if you can make the money back now and test your luck getting the same card in the future

[wanton cliff]

The B550 has flashback. The Prime X570 doesn’t.

[mortal garnet]

and its horrible in the US rn

[wanton cliff]

Meaning that you can use the B550 without needing an older CPU

[muted patio]

Re-releasing the 1050TI MAYBE

All rumors

[glacial umbra]

that might not be a bad idea

[muted patio]

including RTX2060 coming back

[glacial umbra]

if it happens

I'm gonna wait until 3060 benchmarks release

[mortal garnet]

2060 gonna sell out jus as quick as 30 series lol

[wanton cliff]

Why the lowest end of everything?

What is Nvidia’s plan?

[mortal garnet]

they dont have a plan

[glacial umbra]

I don't wanna sell my graphics card for something that won't that big of a change

[small osprey]

why rerelease 1050ti??

[blazing aurora]

and the 2060

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff ohhhh, ok so place the new cpu and start it right up and all is good

[blazing aurora]

they're trying to give people more options for graphics cards to ease up the tension on the market

[wanton cliff]

Idk exactly how flashbacks works, but the CPU needs to be out. It’s a CPU-less flash, which is why it’s so valuable.

[small osprey]

oh hm

[muted patio]

100% rumors from the rumor mill. Nothing has been confirmed yet.

[wanton cliff]

Would be a smart move from Nvidia

[fossil halo]

https://tenor.com/view/granger-smith-earl-dibbles-america-gif-13831121

[wanton cliff]

If it was me I’d re-release something like the 1080 for much less than original MSRP

[fossil halo]

ye like the 1050ti and the 2060 kinda irrlevant

well i mean

gamers: nvidia we want more cards

nvidia: GT 1010

[wanton cliff]

Not 2060

2060 still good

[fossil halo]

that ig

[wanton cliff]

1050ti kinda cringe tho

[fossil halo]

^^^^^^

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff so what would I do, get it all up and running. Kick it on, let it go through its thing, then place cpu later.

[fossil halo]

i wouldnt mind myself a bit of a 1080 blower founders edition

[wise sorrel]

Definitely need to look into it

[fossil halo]

?????

[small osprey]

they should re release some 1070tis and 1080s

[fossil halo]

sir im not sure that is how it works

[small osprey]

for cheaper

[fossil halo]

yea

wait is this man talking about bios flashback?

@wise sorrel

[wise sorrel]

Yes

Not sure how it's done

[fossil halo]

ah i see

so u see

[wanton cliff]

Just look up a guide on YT

[fossil halo]

im not sure how it is done either

[wise sorrel]

Lok

[wanton cliff]

“How to BIOS flashback”

[fossil halo]

but yea

you must approach the wise tribunal known as the youtubedotcom

[wise sorrel]

Probably use that there Google machine of mine

[fossil halo]

ah yes

that shall help you as well

LMFAO im just tryna imagine

[mortal garnet]

this might be the first guy to google his question instead of jus asking

[fossil halo]

newegg sends ppl here for tech support

and we send them straight to google

[wise sorrel]

@mortal garnet nah I asked first

[mortal garnet]

o

[wise sorrel]

And its never a bad thing to ask

[mortal garnet]

atleast youre putting in effort to look it up

[fossil halo]

yea

[wise sorrel]

People's personal experiences always trump a how to article

[fossil halo]

there are some stupid mfs

[muted patio]

I mean, the manual in your motherboard box should have it?

[mortal garnet]

some questions could be solved with a simple search on the internet

[muted patio]

UNless it didn't come with one

[fossil halo]

who just dont wanna search on google for some reason

[wise sorrel]

@muted patio manuals, cute

Lol

[muted patio]

Google search is highly unreliable

I dislike for things like that

[fossil halo]

OH NONONONO

my friend

my good good friend

manuals

or i can summon the master himself

@stoic island

[muted patio]

I mean, every board is different

[uncut pelican]

Imagine summoning people

[fossil halo]

this unlearned man has made this statement and shall beg for your forgiveness

manuals, cute

[small osprey]

he removed manuals from his name tho :(

[muted patio]

Most techies refer to the manuals anyway

[mortal garnet]

naed use to tell everyone to refer to the manual lmao

[muted patio]

Yeah because every mobo is different

Different light patterns

[fossil halo]

but still the manual should tell

[muted patio]

Different file names

[fossil halo]

since usually its somewhat motherboard specific

[wise sorrel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

[fossil halo]

ah yes

see

[mortal garnet]

nice

[small osprey]

how to click the button

[fossil halo]

LMAO

[wise sorrel]

From like 4 min of looking seems the mobile just needs power.

[small osprey]

“so first, go read your manual. then stick the usb into here and push this button”

[warm swift]

does it come with the case? or do i have to buy it separately?

[fossil halo]

separately

they should come with a pcie riser for about like 30-40 bucks irrc

[muted patio]

Well

The cheap ones are still PCI-E 3.0

[wise sorrel]

https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1038568/

[muted patio]

Which means you'll need to set that slot in the BIOS to PC_=E 3.0 instead of AUto or 4.0

[wise sorrel]

Or this since it's asus

[muted patio]

If you don't, you'll have issues

[fossil halo]

well ltt showed that the difference between pcie 3 and 4 is not too much

[muted patio]

It's not a performance thing

[fossil halo]

true

[muted patio]

If you don't change slot gen in BIOS, you'll bet BSOD's from hell

[fossil halo]

bios is a finicky boi

[muted patio]

Personal experience

And experiences all over the webs

[wise sorrel]

Step 1, read the manual, got it

[fossil halo]

oh

apparently

there are no pcie 4 riser cables

or am i just rather stupid

[mortal garnet]

never looked into riser cables

typically vert gpu mount means worse aiflow

[fossil halo]

oh i lied

[mortal garnet]

so never considered it

[muted patio]

Mmmm

[fossil halo]

there are pcie 4 risers

but

they are

[muted patio]

Depends

[fossil halo]

THICCCCCCC priced

[muted patio]

On how much room between case window and GPU

[fossil halo]

78$

for just the riser

[muted patio]

P500A i've got 2.5" and card stays a chilly 60-65C under load

Other cases, not so much

[mortal garnet]

p500a is one hell of a case

[fossil halo]

for airflow

but

[mortal garnet]

its the only atx case i like

[muted patio]

For $100? You bet it is

[mortal garnet]

that and some lian li cases

[fossil halo]

O11d?

yea

everyone likes the O11D

[mortal garnet]

the 215 is really nice for the price and in general

and i personally dont like the o11 unless youre doing a custom loop in it

[fossil halo]

if you dont like the O11 ur a psycho

[fossil halo]

i wanna vertical mount my gt 710

[mortal garnet]

x570 tuf?

[muted patio]

Ye

wifi

[fossil halo]

dont think thats healthy tho since its passive cooled

[mortal garnet]

such a good motherboard lol

[fossil halo]

i wanted to get the b550 tuf

[mortal garnet]

my gf got me the exact motherboard for my last build

[fossil halo]

it was so close

to my budget

but too far at the same time

i skimped on the psu in my build

kids never do that

ever

ever ver

[mortal garnet]

i did that for my first build

[muted patio]

wat

[fossil halo]

no bro

[muted patio]

It's not passively cooled lol

has a chipset fan

[mortal garnet]

my cousin gave me his 10yr old coolermaster oem psu lmao

[fossil halo]

we once had a power outage

[fossil halo]

nah mine doesnt

we had a power outage

and i was the scaredest boi on earth

well maybe there was another boy in my area with a gigabyte psu

he is probably as scared as i was then all the time

[muted patio]

Your X570 TUF doesn't?

It should

[fossil halo]

i dont have a x570 tuf

i have a b550m ds3h

[muted patio]

yayaya

[mortal garnet]

i feel like a little kid waiting for this lol

[muted patio]

i see now, yo meant your 710 vert mounted

[fossil halo]

yea

lmao

i wanna like fully pimp out my gt 710 aft3er i get a real gpu

idk why

like

just cuz

water cooling vertical mount

ah yes

[mortal garnet]

i wanna build a sleeper pc one day

[fossil halo]

i wanna build a pc

i swear its not healthy

after you build a pc

you would assume

[warm swift]

question, i want to buy some extension cables so my pc would look good, im asking like which ones do i buy, like which specific ones

[fossil halo]

you want to play games on it and what not

[mortal garnet]

but it sounds like a pain bc old cases dont have modern mounting stuff

[wanton cliff]

I want to as well

[fossil halo]

really anything from any decently reputed company

just make sure

[wanton cliff]

I got a e-machine case I could use

Small tho

[fossil halo]

you set the bios

[wanton cliff]

Smaller than ITX

[mortal garnet]

oof

[fossil halo]

link?

[wanton cliff]

I’ll show pic later

[mortal garnet]

i can build a sleeper pc and keyboard

[wanton cliff]

I’m in store rn

[fossil halo]

oh ight

[mortal garnet]

im getting too many ideas lmao

[warm swift]

i didnt mean like brand, i meant which ones will be visible?

[fossil halo]

i mean

its your build

none will show if you have a decent vertical mount

and if it does, get creative

[warm swift]

i dont think ill buy a vertical mount

[fossil halo]

i mean

its purely for looks

so i do think that is a wise choice

[warm swift]

alright but which one do i buy

from lian li

the vertical mount

[fossil halo]

bro ur confusing me

[mortal garnet]

i was gonna answer

but im confused too now

[warm swift]

you just said i should get a vertical one, so im asking which one do i get from lian li then

[fossil halo]

i dont think ill buy a vertical mount
alright but which one do i buy

[fossil halo]

oh no i think ur confused

ok

so basically

[warm swift]

ik im very confusing but its just idk what i should pick

[fossil halo]

a vertical mount

[warm swift]

alright which one

[fossil halo]

is this little piece of plastic that you set up on your power supply shroud

with a pcie riser cable

you plug the riser into your motherboard

and the mount makes the riser turn 90 degrees and face up

then, you plug your graphics card into this riser cable

and it stands up

[small osprey]

why vert mount tho

[fossil halo]

looks

thats about it

[small osprey]

[warm swift]

i mean it looks good

[fossil halo]

yea

[small osprey]

not worth

imo

[fossil halo]

i mean

looks good

so it is worth it ig?

bc like

[mortal garnet]

how does the o11 handle vert mount gpu?

[small osprey]

if you like it go for it ig

[fossil halo]

its like literally the optimal vert mount case

so big

and so much space

[mortal garnet]

yea its like a fish tank

[fossil halo]

and the exhaust/intake is parallel to the gpu type thing

[small osprey]

but spend more more money just to turn your gpu 90 degrees

[fossil halo]

i mean ur paying more money to get what you paid for with ur gpu

[small osprey]

[fossil halo]

bc like lets be real here all gpu backplates are dogwater

other than strix

but

[mortal garnet]

imo the only 30 series card that looks better vert mounted is ftw cards

[fossil halo]

strix is strix

[fossil halo]

msi gaming

those cards look sick

[small osprey]

normal mount looks good imo

[fossil halo]

and the gigabyte vision

in white build

[small osprey]

gaming x trio looks really good

[mortal garnet]

last gen x trio looked better imo

[little osprey]

Best card is what you can get right now lol

[warm swift]

does anyone know whats the best online store to buy from in dubai?

[feral bobcat]

guys whats the best ram for rtx 3080 5900x

model please

[fossil halo]

yea

[fossil halo]

probs 32gb trident z neo 4000mhz cl14

[warm swift]

there is a 4000mhz?

[feral bobcat]

great i knew gskill is great

i want it for games like CP 2077

[mortal garnet]

are you strictly gaming?

[wanton cliff]

Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4000mhz, lowest CAS Latency (CL) you can find, preferably below 18

[feral bobcat]

yes

what fastest

[turbid blade]

Dear god DDR4 RAM is up to 4000 now??

[wanton cliff]

It’s up to 5100 but that’s expensive as hell

[turbid blade]

*affordably

[wanton cliff]

I believe DDR5’s top speed is 6400 or something like that

[warm swift]

there is ddr5?

[wanton cliff]

When it comes out, yeah

[warm swift]

when is that

[feral bobcat]

insanely expensive the person who buys it is donkey

[wanton cliff]

I think AM5 is supposed to be on DDR5

[turbid blade]

There is DDR6, just not in ram sticks for the DIY market yet

[wanton cliff]

Not donkey, extreme overclocker

[wanton cliff]

False

[turbid blade]

Bro DDR6 is in the new NVIDIA cards

Does that not count as existing?

[feral bobcat]

so crucial or gskill

whats overall better

[muted patio]

Wat

Thats gddr6

[feral bobcat]

for ssd the best choice is samsung

[muted patio]

Different

[feral bobcat]

😄

😂

[turbid blade]

You right
My bad

[turbid blade]

GDDR is different. I forgot.

[wanton cliff]

GDDR6 is based on DDR4

[wanton cliff]

Not always

[feral bobcat]

[warm swift]

definitely expensive tho

[turbid blade]

Crucial is part of Micron so they have more direct access to silicon than Gskill does. That doesnt guarantee that Crucial is better or anything, it just means that the price of Crucial RAM might be less effected by silicon availability issues.

Personally, I would make the choice purely on either looks or price.

[feral bobcat]

i heard g is better for OC

[warm swift]

im sorry so are those the only one i should get?

[turbid blade]

I haven't heard anything about OC. But I'm sure both of them are equally as good for casual overclocking. There probably wouldn't be much of a difference until hardcore overclocking

[muted patio]

Crucial Ballistix is almost exclusively Micron rev e. Good overclocking ram with tight timings.

And same price as ithwr atuff or cheaper. Rgb kits for $100

[rich helm]

Depending on your case you can’t see the ones in the upper left

[muted patio]

$110? Cant remember offhand. Used to be 95

[feral bobcat]

critics awards goes to g.skill

[warm swift]

i am getting the lian li o11d, i just want to get the ones that will be visible

[rich helm]

Oh ok well those are the only ones they usually come with anyway

How much are you trying to spend

On those cables @warm swift

[feral bobcat]

guys i had asus tuf x470 gaming plus & it was the worst MB ever!

[turbid blade]

RGB CABLES
sorry, somebody had to say it

[feral bobcat]

what x570 is better mid range msi or asus

[warm swift]

idk tbh, idk where to buy them from

[rich helm]

Like 50 dollars, 100, 150?

[feral bobcat]

guys do you prefer msi MB over asus

[wanton cliff]

Crucial uses Micron’s E-die. This only matters for overclocking, but it does mean that it’s better overall.

[wanton cliff]

Asus

[warm swift]

still trying to figure out because im trying to find the best online pc store in dubai

[feral bobcat]

asus tuf is terrible

[wanton cliff]

False

[warm swift]

so it depends on what they have

[wanton cliff]

TUF has the best VRM and PCIe lanes of any board in its price range

As well as slightly above its price range

Looks nice too

[feral bobcat]

wrong

[muted patio]

No its not lol

Read der8eurs review ;)

[wanton cliff]

Where?

[muted patio]

"Here comes the ASUS TUF Gaming X570-X into play, which – honestly – at this point is my favorite board in this test. It performed quite well in all test scenarios and for it’s price of about €210 it can keep up with much more expensive boards."

http://der8auer.com/x570-motherboard-vrm-overview/

[still roost]

PCMR#3238 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[feral bobcat]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-x470-plus-gaming/p/N82E16813119107?Description=asus tuf x470&cm_re=asus_tuf x470-_-13-119-107-_-Product

3 egg review out of 5

[wanton cliff]

Were you talking to me or him here

[wanton cliff]

A: that’s X470
B: that means almost nothing

[muted patio]

Just posting evidence.

X470 is not x570

[feral bobcat]

why not msi

[muted patio]

Read the review

[feral bobcat]

or asrock

[muted patio]

Msi on x570 has bad vrm temps

Mostly

[fossil halo]

x470 is balls x570 is 😋

[wanton cliff]

Point is: Asus, especially their TUF line, is great for motherboards

[muted patio]

Also, using user reviews is kinda oof. Most dont know what theyre talking about lol

[fossil halo]

agreed

tuf is poggers

rog is decent too but theres a HEAVY rog tax

[turbid blade]

Asus tuf x470 is not x570. Even if the 470 is bad (it might be idk), that doesnt mean all asus tuf is bad

[fossil halo]

bro

[feral bobcat]

but critics reviews like toms hardware is biased

[fossil halo]

x470 is an outdated chipset

why do you want one

x470 is to x570 as b450 is to b550

literally

now would you want a b450

[feral bobcat]

i had but now i want to buy x570

[desert gulch]

asus tuf x570 rly ood

thermals wise its amazing

a review was done comparing a bunch of 500 series

and for the money i think x570 won in value

[muted patio]

Der8auer isnt biased lol

[fossil halo]

derbauer is poggers

[feral bobcat]

do you know any site for all parts

[desert gulch]

newegg

amazon

best buy has some

http://der8auer.com/x570-motherboard-vrm-overview/

[feral bobcat]

i mean reviews (unbiased)

[desert gulch]

i encourage everyone who wants a x570 to check this out

[turbid blade]

Microcenter is a great physical location with decent prices if you can find a microcenter near you

[desert gulch]

yeah

not super common to be super close to one

im in portland and closest one is cali iirc

[turbid blade]

There's one like and hour away from me (I'm in SoCal)

[desert gulch]

yeah

sometimes they have hecka deal

[feral bobcat]

wow he has a site?

[turbid blade]

Lol, and a YouTube channel

[warm swift]

since we are talking about sites does anyone here know the best site in dubai?

[desert gulch]

yeah its pretty good

[feral bobcat]

i knew about YT but didnt know about the site

[turbid blade]

"since we are talking about sites does anyone here know the best site in dubai?"
Physical site? Nope! Website? Yeah, amazon should be pretty good. Do they not ship to Dubai?

[feral bobcat]

go to newegg.com choose your region

done

[warm swift]

no like, i dont live in dubai, i live in egypt, but im asking if you guys know a site in dubai so it can be delivered the fastest to egypt

[desert gulch]

idk

you got amazon?

[warm swift]

is there an amazon dubai?

[desert gulch]

prolly

[feral bobcat]

guys what about x570 taichi

[desert gulch]

meh

[feral bobcat]

is this a good model

[desert gulch]

i think x570 tuf is the best value tbh

what cpu and gpu will you put in it?

[feral bobcat]

tuf sound is not that great

[desert gulch]

tuf is great

[turbid blade]

Lol this mans really doesnt want asus. Bro, the 570 is an entirely different board from the 470. The tuf 570 is good. Why would we all lie to you? XD

[desert gulch]

no bios flashback but meh iirc

[warm swift]

so im confused

so i found the lian li case on dubai but the problem is they put the normal O11D case photos, but the title is O11 Dynamic XL ROG, and in the choices it says PC-O11 D

[turbid blade]

Select the xl in the options

[warm swift]

i dont want an XL tho

[turbid blade]

Oh

[desert gulch]

yeah model over brand, idk how good the 470 was, but the 570 is great

[turbid blade]

Then you should be fine?

[desert gulch]

vintage has a x570 tuf, im pretty sure he loves his

[warm swift]

idk i cant just pay that much and yolo it

i have to be sure

[desert gulch]

dont they offer returns?

[feral bobcat]

you know everything about gigabyte brand is terrible

[desert gulch]

not really

gigabyte has some great stuff

[gusty abyss]

who is this dude and why is he here just to say good things are bad

[turbid blade]

It's amazon, there should be returns

[feral bobcat]

from their sh... ty graphics cards to motherboards

[warm swift]

but would it be expensive for me? to return it?

[desert gulch]

their gpus are pretty fine imo

the aorus 5700xt was one of the best

[feral bobcat]

i had lots of giga boards

[muted patio]

Get giga or asrock then

[desert gulch]

vintage he just said giga sucks lol

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qk6tqp feedback on this ?

[feral bobcat]

should i trust you guys about asus tuf

[desert gulch]

yes

vintage how good is the tuf x570?

[gusty abyss]

several of us here use the tuf x570 board lmao

[turbid blade]

Can you send me a link? I'm sure amazon will tell you if it's free returns or not

[muted patio]

Well giga it is

Cuz asrock aint the best either.

[desert gulch]

you need that aio for aesthetics?

[warm swift]

what is the best PSU Extension brand out of those, LINKUP, EZDIY, ASIAHORSE?

[gusty abyss]

asrock's the only board manufacturer I'll actually talk smack to

[warm swift]

https://www.amazon.ae/gp/product/B07F2R5TFQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2KKU8J8O8784X&th=1

[desert gulch]

cablemods are rly good

[sharp blade]

How is the Rog Crosshair viii hero wifi?

[muted patio]

Iva had asrock and giga both. Dont like either but eh.

[feral bobcat]

what 1000w psu you guys have

[warm swift]

https://www.amazon.ae/s?k=CableMod&ref=bl_dp_s_web_0 @desert gulch do you know which one i would need? i want a color that would work on all RGB colors, so i guess maybe black, and i dont want to buy the whole kit, like i want to buy the important cables that will be visible in the lian li case

[desert gulch]

idk

im still using stock cables lol

[warm swift]

ah lol

[feral bobcat]

Realtek S1200A Codec: Pristine audio quality with unprecedented 108dB signal-to-noise ratio for stereo line-out and 103dB SNR for line-in

[turbid blade]

I had a bad experience with a giga x99 board, but I think that was because it was the cheapest x99 I could find. I think lowballing the high-end is what screwed me, not giga

[little osprey]

Yes it’s a must have lol

[warm swift]

so did you check the link? @turbid blade

[turbid blade]

Hol up. 'Bout to

[desert gulch]

you need all those cores for streaming or something?

could get a 5600x for less and have better gaming perf

[feral bobcat]

x570 tuf

[little osprey]

Yeah gonna do streaming and video editing

[desert gulch]

ahh ic

[feral bobcat]

ASROCK X570 TAICHI It's time to enjoy the most purified audio performance with ultra high definition. Purity Sound4 is a combination of several hardware, software audio solutions. 7.1 CH HD audio with the latest Realtek ALC1220 audio codec, individual PCB layers for R/L audio channel, 120dB SNR DAC and other technologies to deliver the crispest sound effects.

[desert gulch]

i would get 32 gigs of ram then

if doing all that

imo

like 3600 c18 or sumthin

can get kits for around 130 usually

have seen them go on sale for around 100 before

[mortal garnet]

i wouldnt worry about onboard audio

if you really want good audio, youd invest in something external

[muted patio]

Onboard is kinda oof no matter what. Most are all realtek chipsets.

[feral bobcat]

what dac model

[mortal garnet]

an apple dongle or meizu dongle will sound better than on board

[feral bobcat]

what about evga sound cards

[warm swift]

do you understand in psu extensions?

[desert gulch]

lol i have audio from my monitor so yeah

fine for me

[mortal garnet]

i wouldnt buy a sound card from any gaming company

you can get a dac/amp combo for under 150 from actual audiophile companies

[turbid blade]

@warm swift
First link is the Amazon AE (Arab Emirates?) return policy:
https://www.amazon.ae/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=shoppingbnfs/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_shbnfs_md1_w/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_shbnfs_2b1_w?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201819200&pf_rd_m=A2KKU8J8O8784X&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-1&pf_rd_r=S3YEWZ6RFJE3R3R6YKGJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=4dafa323-6545-4822-8cc3-58036262cb38&pf_rd_i=16423024031&pf_rd_m=A2KKU8J8O8784X&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-1&pf_rd_r=7E5K06KM9T4ZG5FAYGDK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=e6c87431-c39d-4a1e-b6a9-f3b84f57331c&pf_rd_i=16423024031

Second Link is the Amazon AE refund policy:
https://www.amazon.ae/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GKQNFKFK5CF3C54B

From what I read, it looks like you should get refunded for the product if, on arrival, you see it's not the correct product and return it within 15 days (or immediately just to be sure). I cant tell if they will charge you return shipping, but if they do then it's probably going to be as expensive as it was to ship to you in the first place.

[feral bobcat]

what model do you recommend

[mortal garnet]

it depends on your budget, gear and what sound signature youre looking for

[warm swift]

i mean, do you think that the case i sent is the normal lian li o11d case and it just says that its the xl but its the normal one?

[feral bobcat]

a great dac amp for studio monitor headphone ($150)

a $150 headphone

[mortal garnet]

which in specific

[turbid blade]

I think they included all the different option names in the title and I think if you select the option you want, you will get that option

[mortal garnet]

some headphones dont require an amp although their ohms is a bit high

for example you can run 58x on a phone with no problem

[feral bobcat]

what studio monitor is better for recording

150 usd

[warm swift]

alright thank you

[mortal garnet]

im not quite sure, not a fan of neutral sounding stuff so i never really looked into the options

hd560s are pretty neutral but lack the detail that 600 series offer

[feral bobcat]

i have an imac & the sound of it is really great comparing to realteksh...t

[mortal garnet]

if your goal is to sound neutral, id look into the k5 pro dac/amp

[turbid blade]

Just to be clear: I don't want to force you into anything. If you aren't comfortable with paying return shipping or contacting customer support should there be an issue, then don't pull the trigger. I'm just telling you what it looks like to me.

[feral bobcat]

mids & treble are very important for me

[mortal garnet]

if you want good mids and treble, id go with the 6xx

theyre pretty much the best you can get under 500 mid wise

[warm swift]

honestly like, if i pay for a lian li o11d and it turns out its the right case then ill be happy, and even if i paid for that and got the xl i would still be happy, so its a win win

[mortal garnet]

mids/treble is really good with amazing detail

[feral bobcat]

price?

[mortal garnet]

220

[feral bobcat]

& link

😭

[mortal garnet]

6xx are amp dependent though

and are easily influenced depending on what amp you get

[feral bobcat]

& price of the dac amp matches for 6xx

[mortal garnet]

it depends

k5 pro is 150

you can do schiit magni/modi for about 200

[little osprey]

yamaha hs series good for mid and high

but poor lows

[mortal garnet]

6xx is lacking in sub bass

and bass extension

[turbid blade]

Honestly, as someone with a Coolermaser HAFX, I can safely say it's hard to be unsatisfied with a big case (unless it doesn't fit somewhere). Plus, when I upgrade, I'm looking to upgrade to an o11d xl anyway so . . .

[mortal garnet]

but theyre superior in mids and detail

my internet is wonky rn, but 6xx are on drop

if its your first order, you can get a 10 dollar coupon

[warm swift]

there is plenty of space for an XL, i just want to get the normal o11d because i feel like its the right size to go, and i think it has a pretty good size, but if i get the XL i would be happy aswell i wouldnt be mad about it

[feral bobcat]

im noob at this 😬 how to use dac

[little osprey]

are you looking for headphones or monitors

[feral bobcat]

studio heads

[mortal garnet]

is this for listening to music for fun or like

you need a pair of reference cans

[little osprey]

I personally using beyerdynamics dt990 pro 250 ohm version

for everything lol

[mortal garnet]

1990s are a good studio headphone

[little osprey]

ofc lol

[feral bobcat]

is it possible to use studio headphones for games?

[little osprey]

yeah

[mortal garnet]

beyerdynamic is known for high treble tho

[little osprey]

beyerdynamics have perfect stereo for gaming xd

[mortal garnet]

and studio headphones will probably perform better than any gaming headset

[feral bobcat]

👍

[mortal garnet]

actual headphones have better sound stage and imaging

but, most of the time in game audio is pretty bad

[feral bobcat]

what about ultrasone headphones

[mortal garnet]

audio engine *

hence whey some pro csgo players play with apple earbuds

[little osprey]

i love german brands about headphones

[mortal garnet]

if you like mids and treble, there is nothing better than 6xx at the price

[feral bobcat]

apple heads = the worst sh..t head phones in the world

[mortal garnet]

but you will lose a lot of the low end with 6xx

[little osprey]

always using sennheiser and beyerdynamics xd

[feral bobcat]

overall what do you rec

recommend

[mortal garnet]

6xx if youre seeking mids and treble

if your ears are treble sensitive avoid beyerdynamics as a whole

hifiman 4xx and 400i are nice

[feral bobcat]

what model is balanced

at 150 range

[mortal garnet]

balanced as in ?

[little osprey]

I have my old hd598 it's still sounds great and beyerdynamics dt990 pro

[feral bobcat]

in low mid high freqs

[mortal garnet]

balance output?

[little osprey]

990 pro is about 150$ if i remember right

[mortal garnet]

it depends on what youre coming from

balance to one person may not be the same to another

dt880s are essentially 990s without the aggressive treble

[feral bobcat]

my imac chip is cirrus logic that sounds great with good headphones

crystal clear in mids

you can hear real sound in pure flac wav

😍

[little osprey]

but studio headphones sounds better with audio interfaces xd

[mortal garnet]

if youre a sucker for mids, then 6xx is a no brainer pick

[little osprey]

its above his budget xd

[feral bobcat]

😂 no i need to hear everything because i play music movies & games

[mortal garnet]

for 150usd, k371 are really good

[little osprey]

if you're listener headphones above 65$ would be enough

[mortal garnet]

i mean

not even

ur40s are 30 bucks or so

[feral bobcat]

no i prefer studio heads

[mortal garnet]

and theyre amazing for the price

[little osprey]

i have sennheiser hd400s its about 65$ for listening on road xd

[feral bobcat]

why open-back heads are better

[mortal garnet]

if you go to #peripherals-and-displays there is an audio buying guide in pinned messages

and 58x are a really good starting headphone

they do not an amp and have an overall nice sound sig

[feral bobcat]

did you heard anything about ht moega sound cards

i want a headphones for that sounds cards

i mean dac

[mortal garnet]

never heard of them

pcie sound card?

[little osprey]

pcie soundcards are eww

[mortal garnet]

yea

emi op lol

[feral bobcat]

https://www.htomega.com/uploads/5/5/0/8/55083445/6462174.jpg?398

[mortal garnet]

id avoid that

[feral bobcat]

https://www.htomega.com/halo-usb.html

[mortal garnet]

a modi/magni can power pretty much most of the headphones

[little osprey]

I got Behringer um2 at home . it's around 40$ and it's minimum ig xd

[mortal garnet]

i have a e30 and a50s

[feral bobcat]

behringer is low budget

[desert gulch]

lance is there software to mega base boost things?

like live as its playing

[mortal garnet]

yea i forgot the name, lemme look it up

[desert gulch]

ight

[little osprey]

for studio I have lexicon io22 xd

this old school xd

[feral bobcat]

guys you plug the dac to usb of pc?

i dont know how to use it

😄

[mortal garnet]

EQAPO works

apo+(peace)

[desert gulch]

ok thx

[mortal garnet]

yea

[desert gulch]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

this thing?

[mortal garnet]

yea, thats what a lot of ppl use

i dont use it personally bc i get enough bass

[desert gulch]

pog thx

[mortal garnet]

but that should be it

np

and i wouldnt recommend getting an audio interface for a headphone only setup

[feral bobcat]

guys please tell me the best sutio headphone ($150) & dac amp (150)

300 total

[little osprey]

*realtek high definiton audio *

😂

[mortal garnet]

there isnt no "best" headphone

what are you currently using and what do you like and dislike about it ?

[feral bobcat]

a thing that i can buy

[little osprey]

for 150$ i'd recommend beyerdynamics dt 990pro 250ohm

[feral bobcat]

my speakers are dead

using old headphone

[desert gulch]

i have speakers lance

[feral bobcat]

sony

[desert gulch]

its a like 50 dollar logi set

has a sub

[feral bobcat]

i want to buy a new pc

with 3080 5900x 32gb ram

2tb ssd

[mortal garnet]

58x for more neutral sound, dt880s or k371/k361 for more v shape sound

dac/amp wise you can only fit a combo in your budget so k5 pro for more neutral, zen dac for more fun

you can get a fiio e10k too which is cheaper than both of the dac/amp combos i listed above

[feral bobcat]

price of k5pro?

[mortal garnet]

150

zen dac is 129

[feral bobcat]

i prefer k5p

p = pro

[mortal garnet]

theyre both amazing units

[feral bobcat]

what brand is 58x

[mortal garnet]

sennheiser

[feral bobcat]

i heard a lot of bad things about hd 2xx series

[mortal garnet]

4xx and 400i are a bit more but scale better with power

[little osprey]

lmao amazon link is so long xd

[mortal garnet]

58x dont require power, they can be ran off a phone if you really wanted to

hifiman 4xx and 400i scale pretty good with more power

[feral bobcat]

yeah i want a studio headphone that works on phones without amp

[mortal garnet]

have you tried open backs before?

[feral bobcat]

well no

is it bad comparing to close ones

[mortal garnet]

no

jus will be different

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-UR40-Collapsible-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00006JILE/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ur40&qid=1613594500&sr=8-2

you can try these to get an idea of open back

dont be discriminated by the price, koss makes amazing products

[turbid blade]

LMAO im so tempted to post a joke link to some Pikachu headphones rn

[stoic island]

Might want Meizu dong or a bit better

Depends on your phone if it has a jack too

[feral bobcat]

😐

using wireless headphones is very harmful

[stoic island]

(meizu dong here https://www.amazon.com/Meizu-MasterHIFI-Converter-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B08H89VZKQ/)

[feral bobcat]

for hours of course

[mortal garnet]

if you have an iphone then apple dongle

android then meizu

[stoic island]

Gonna assume the guy named pcmr doesn't use apple :p

[feral bobcat]

do you trust meizu quality

[stoic island]

But yea

[mortal garnet]

yea