building-and-recc-chat

[small osprey]

uhhhhhhh probably not

[wanton cliff]

Not really

Just a lower binned 10900k

[small osprey]

10850k is just lower binned 10900k

yea lol

[wanton cliff]

I got there first

[small osprey]

bc i typed extra

10850k can achieve many of the overclocks that 10900k can

[tepid shoal]

Build a PC. Its not posting. I have read, it might not be able to post with a 3rd gen cpu. any tips before i need to buy a gpu or an 1st or 2nd gen cpu just to update bios?

AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite AMD B450

[wanton cliff]

@muted patio is it possible a B450 board came shipped without a BIOS update?

[wanton cliff]

Check the box and see if it says Ryzen 3000 ready or something like that

[muted patio]

nah, it's something else

[wanton cliff]

I guessed as much

There are indicator lights on that board, yeah?

[muted patio]

It's memory or something else

[tepid shoal]

yeah

vga is on

[wanton cliff]

When you turn it on, check to see what light it stops on

[wanton cliff]

It’s your GPU then

[muted patio]

VGA is on, that's a graphics card issue

[tepid shoal]

i dont have a gpu in

[muted patio]

Well that's why!

No GPU LOL

[small osprey]

xD

[wanton cliff]

Kek

[tepid shoal]

guess ryzen 5 has no integrated gpu

[wanton cliff]

Yeah you kinda need one of those XD

[muted patio]

not the 3600 no

[tepid shoal]

should have known that

[wanton cliff]

Only Ryzen 3

[small osprey]

lol

[small osprey]

or 3400g

[wanton cliff]

That’s the only exception

Wait isn’t the 3400g a Ryzen 3 CPU?

[tepid shoal]

i just need a vga outlet no gaming

[small osprey]

i think its 5

idk tho

[tepid shoal]

any cheap gpus i can use?

[wanton cliff]

Well you still need a GPU regardless

[small osprey]

buy a 770 from forks

[wanton cliff]

He has tons

[small osprey]

$80

[wanton cliff]

Oi @celest horizon

[tepid shoal]

Can i use this one?

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT 710

[muted patio]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

I wouldn’t recommend it

Even zoom alone maxes that GPU out

[tepid shoal]

the pc is for an 71 yo old. The most he is doing is maybe watch a video online

[wanton cliff]

Ok then

If he finds it being slow then get him something slightly more modern

A used 1070 or something perhaps

And I’m in a tunnel with no reception

Ofc

There we go

[small osprey]

you just sent 5 messages in half a second lol

[tepid shoal]

he had a a 10 yo 4 core for the last 10 years w/o any gpu

some intel 290 or 920

[wanton cliff]

Oh my

[small osprey]

thats old

[trim orbit]

Hi, I have a build (r7 3700x, rtx 2060, 600w power supply, ASrock b550m steel legend, 3 argb fans, stranger things themed, demogorgon figure inside! ) what should I do next?

[wanton cliff]

Indeed

And there goes reception again

Damned mountains me damned

Yeah I need that starlink for my phone I think

[tepid shoal]

if the rx 500 series wouldnt be wrong value price for him i would get him an rx560

[wanton cliff]

Put all the parts together and then it on

[wanton cliff]

RX 560 would work

[trim orbit]

U built it in October, I was wondering what I should do now. Sell it and upgrade? Upgrade? Get a asus zephyrus g14?

I not U

[worn wave]

I mean that build is still pretty good for gaming

[wanton cliff]

Do you feel as if the system is lacking in any way?

That you need to upgrade it at all?

[trim orbit]

Not really, but it throttles a lot. Can I fix that?

[wanton cliff]

What throttles?

[tepid shoal]

Thanks guys

[trim orbit]

My pc

[worn wave]

Which part?

[wanton cliff]

No problem (though I’m not a guy)

[worn wave]

What games?

[wanton cliff]

And how?

Bottlenecks?

Heat?

[tepid shoal]

Thanks everyone 🙂

[worn wave]

There should be no bottlenecks in that system

[wanton cliff]

Very well balanced

[trim orbit]

The fans ramp up a lot

[worn wave]

Are they PWM

What brand?

[trim orbit]

They are cooler master

[worn wave]

Is your cooling fine?

Is it because the PC gets too hot?

[trim orbit]

I have them on silent mode in bios

[worn wave]

What case do you have?

[trim orbit]

The air that comes out is really very hot

Cooler master mb311l

[wanton cliff]

That’s normal

How do you know it’s throttling?

Air gets hot when it comes into contact with parts that can go upwards of 300 degrees Fahrenheit when not cooled

[trim orbit]

I thought throttling meant that the fans turn up and it gets more slow

What does throttling mean?

If it doesn’t mean getting slower and louder that is

[gusty abyss]

throttling is your system slowing the cpu down to keep it from burning out when it's too hot

you can tell if you're throttling with hwinfo64

[shut fiber]

or cpu z

[trim orbit]

I really just want my fans to stop getting so loud, what do@I do?

[shut fiber]

i mean would u rather ur fans get loud or ur cpu gets so hot u can cook a steak on it

[trim orbit]

Idk, how about a happy medium?

[gusty abyss]

do you know which fans specifically are being loud?

cpu, gpu, case?

[trim orbit]

Chassis I think

[wanton cliff]

It’s funny because you aren’t even kidding

[trim orbit]

Yeah ik

[shut fiber]

im not in the slightest

ive fried eggs on cpus before

[gusty abyss]

you can reduce your fan curves in bios if the system isn't getting excessively hot

[tepid shoal]

can i just exchange the processor from 3600 to the 2200g?

[shut fiber]

3600 is good

[tepid shoal]

i just ran the numbers and that should be way cheaper

[trim orbit]

Yeah I would keep that

[shut fiber]

i mean whatever ur budget allows

[main whale]

My CPU fan was quite loud, so I set it to quiet mode from the APP Center hoping it would help. It kinda does.

[tepid shoal]

i could just use the 3600 in a different build

[wanton cliff]

I’ve scrambled eggs on my Xbox 360

[wanton cliff]

Easier to just get a GPU

[tepid shoal]

i thought so, but that stuff is not in balance between value and price and he doesnt need a dedicated gpu anyway

[wanton cliff]

As long as you aren’t running 3 monitors in 1440p a 2200g should work, yeah

[little osprey]

just buy prebuilt

[tepid shoal]

he runs a suare 720 i think

[wanton cliff]

Ban

Nah Nevermind I’ve been breaking a lot of rules today

Not gonna ping vintage

[little osprey]

lol

[wanton cliff]

But seriously

Don’t

We aren’t here to recommend prebuilt

We are here to help people save money

[trim orbit]

Never get a pre built

[muted patio]

Scuse me?

[trim orbit]

Bad mobo, ram, power supply, case, etc

[muted patio]

Some prebuilts are fine

[trim orbit]

Ok

[muted patio]

DIY isn't for everyone

[wanton cliff]

Some are great

[little osprey]

but isn't buying prebuilt usually cheaper in the long run

[trim orbit]

Yeah a couple

No

[muted patio]

Depends

[wanton cliff]

Why would they be cheaper in the long run?

[little osprey]

repairs

[wanton cliff]

You know you need to repair prebuilts just as often as normal home built PCs right?

Plus repairs don’t usually even cost money

[trim orbit]

Is 135f at idle a good temp for a r7 3700x?

[wanton cliff]

Celsius that

[trim orbit]

Huh?

[wanton cliff]

What is that in Celsius

[trim orbit]

It’s 59 Celsius

[tepid shoal]

57

[trim orbit]

60

[wanton cliff]

Maybe

[tepid shoal]

thats a bit high for idle

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

What cooler?

[muted patio]

Probs stock

[tepid shoal]

okay would be in the mid 40

[trim orbit]

Stock

[muted patio]

And also performance plan may be set to 100% all the time

[tepid shoal]

i have the same

[muted patio]

Check Windows Performance Plan

[wanton cliff]

My Prism doesn’t get that high even on a 3800x at Max perf plan

[tepid shoal]

your dragon center might be bad or old

[wanton cliff]

?

What?

[trim orbit]

What should my plan be at?

[shut fiber]

dude pick up a 40 buck air cooler

[wanton cliff]

What is it currently at?

[muted patio]

Set minimum processor state to 50% or something

[shut fiber]

and youll shave a ton of degrees

[muted patio]

Or just use the AMD Ryzen balanced Power Plan

[wanton cliff]

Prism is better than a lot of air coolers around that price

[muted patio]

Ye

[little osprey]

rob microcenter

[tepid shoal]

If you run msi...check that. It screwed up my fan speed

[wanton cliff]

He is on an Asrock board

[muted patio]

If you don't have Ryzen Power Plans

[tepid shoal]

never mind than

[muted patio]

Download Ryzen Master and install the drivers it wants you to

[trim orbit]

My plan is at balances

Balenced

And Ryzen master says 40 Celsius

Is that ok?

[wanton cliff]

That should be fine

What programs do you have open?

Why is there no 5G in Denver

[tepid shoal]

connectivity in the springs was horrible

on campus almost noone had signal at all

[trim orbit]

I just set it to game mode and auto over

Oc

[burnt crescent]

bro i need a gpu o finish my build

[main whale]

^
The very same for me.

Don't know when I'll be able to have that opportunity: before or AFTER the third stimulus?

[burnt crescent]

LMAO

[stoic island]

Dragon center kinda crappy

[trim orbit]

What’s that?

[wanton cliff]

MSI hardware control software

@trim orbit

[trim orbit]

cool

thanks

[lavish holly]

I’m looking for a white build for ~$3500 (I already have the rtx 3080 Fe) what’s the best i can get for that money?

[potent portal]

I'm very happy with this result. Stock, no overclock but standard boosts.

[muted patio]

Userbench

[potent portal]

Yeah

I've never gotten over 100% on "gaming" category before

[muted patio]

Userbench is honestly kind oof

[potent portal]

It's ok if you realize the limitations and intended usage scenarios

[muted patio]

Not considered to be a good benchmark

Let's disagree lol

XD

[potent portal]

I'll do Time Spy next 😛

[muted patio]

Good for GPU

I prefer something like Cinebench for CPU

[worn wave]

I never recommend userbenchmark at all ever

There's just many better benchmarks so its not worth it to use it at all imo

[bitter relic]

my friend is looking to build his own pc but i dont think he has enough for a beginners pc

[fossil halo]

how much does he have

[bitter relic]

500

[fossil halo]

unless he literally has 1004

500 is not bad

with a couple of used parts

he can get a beginner pc up and running

however, next gen budget cpus and gpus like 5300 5100 ryzen and 3050 nvidia have not been released and will be soon

so like right now he will get a mediocre pc with a used gpu and other stuff most likely

in a bit he can look to new parts

[celest horizon]

UB gpu benchmark is so light that you can set something silly like 2400mhz on air

[worn wave]

UserBenchmark is honestly a joke, how they judge CPU vs CPU is so stupid

[celest horizon]

Just look at the actual single/xcore int/float scores

If you need a benchmark to boil it all down to which is better without any further specification, then maybe the 9400f is the best choice

[worn wave]

Its dumb stuff like this though

These two CPUs have different use cases meant for different people generally, its stupid to take this into the overall score

[rich helm]

Hey, I just had a dumb question, trident z neo ram on Amazon says (for AMD ryzen) I’m assuming this will still work with intel just fine though right?

[balmy patio]

yee, pretty sure it will

[celest horizon]

It will

[potent portal]

@muted patio

Not bad for stock settings still

[wanton cliff]

[worn wave]

lmao ikr

When you @ them on twitter they block you about it

[pliant schooner]

So I disabled virtualization in my bios and my pc won’t start or I can’t see windows WHAT DO I DO

[jagged ember]

Turn it back on so windows can boot

[potent portal]

Turn it back on?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNysxc better recommendations for faster ram and nvme?

[pliant schooner]

I did and i can’t get in my bios my windows or bios won’t show anything

[potent portal]

CMOS reset then

[pliant schooner]

My monitor shows that their is nothing starting

How

Do I comos restart #

Pls help

[potent portal]

Unplug, remove the flat battery on motherboard, hold power button for 60 seconds, put battery back and plug in

[jagged ember]

Lol calm down dude

[pliant schooner]

ok I’ll try

[jagged ember]

Give people time to type messages

[potent portal]

It's not that serious. Hiccups like this happen all the time and 99.99% of the time it's easily fixed

[jagged ember]

Panicking only makes things worse lol

Can't do nothing if you don't have a clear head

And please, don't pry it out

[scenic turret]

On stand by as well, we just need a little more information and start from basics

[pliant schooner]

Alr

[civic tusk]

Wise words

[pliant schooner]

where is the flat battery

On my motherboard

[jagged ember]

Yes

[potent portal]

What motherboard do you have?

[civic tusk]

Yes should be near where you install the gpu

[pliant schooner]

What does it look like

[scenic turret]

Should look like that

[jagged ember]

Watch battery

Coin battery

[scenic turret]

Generally it's near the PCIe slot on most MOBO

[pliant schooner]

I going to clean it Ik

[scenic turret]

Check underneath your gpu

[muted patio]

Other side of GPU

[jagged ember]

Oh I see why you said that now

It's on the intake side of the gpu

[pliant schooner]

So unscrew it

[scenic turret]

If you can't reach it, then yes

[jagged ember]

If you can reach it, you don't have to

[pliant schooner]

So unscrew the alien thing

[jagged ember]

Uh

[jagged ember]

If you mean the cpu cooler

No

[muted patio]

To the left of that pic

[jagged ember]

It's on the other side of the gpu

The fan side

[muted patio]

left side of your pic, other side of the GPU card

[scenic turret]

Your GPU is the item on the left side of the image, it's the long computer part

[pliant schooner]

I’m confused

[muted patio]

The pciture you posted

Take another one TO THE LEFT

[pliant schooner]

So the green thing

[muted patio]

Other side of the vertical thing on the left side of your picture

[jagged ember]

Past the giant card

[muted patio]

Move the camera to the LEFT

lol

[pliant schooner]

It’s a prebuilt btw

[muted patio]

Ye

[jagged ember]

Good god, alienware

[muted patio]

Battery is probably under the Geforce Card

[potent portal]

Alienware cooler gave that away

[quick wind]

wait a prebuilt with 2 sticks of ram?!

[jagged ember]

It's most definitely under the gpu tho

[pliant schooner]

My pc runs at low FPS

[muted patio]

have to remove the Geforce GPU to get the battery most likely

[scenic turret]

Check under there

[pliant schooner]

So it’s under my GeForce

[scenic turret]

Yes

[jagged ember]

Ye

[pliant schooner]

Green thing

[muted patio]

Yes, most likely

[quick wind]

big boy

[pliant schooner]

Ok I see it

[jagged ember]

Ayy

Should be a little latch somewhere

[scenic turret]

^

[jagged ember]

Push that and remove the battery

Please don't pry the battery with a screwdriver

That's how you break things lol

[desert gulch]

lol

[jagged ember]

Oof speaking of undusting

I need to do that

[scenic turret]

Oh yeah, definitely get some canned air and a brush and clean out that dust

[jagged ember]

Oh I've got a vaccum cleaner where I can connect the exhaust to the head

And thus it becomes a reverse vaccum

[scenic turret]

Oh nice, I have a small usb air blower

[jagged ember]

Nicely it also blows out clean air

[scenic turret]

And a small air compressor (meant for airbrushing but it works for most things)

[jagged ember]

Yeah, usb air blower nice too tho

Can do it anytime

[scenic turret]

Alot cheaper/less environmentally damaging than canned air

[jagged ember]

Yeah for sure

[scenic turret]

Canned air is just a conventional way to do it

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YRYy3Z

any thoughts?

[uncut pelican]

Looks good to me @little osprey

[worn wave]

You really want to spend $300 on fans?

[pliant schooner]

Ok

[muted patio]

Unplug from wall

remove battery

wait 2 minutes

put battery back

plug back in

put GPU in

restart

[muted patio]

I got nothing other than super expensive fans lol

[pliant schooner]

What’s the wall

[muted patio]

Your PC

unplug the power cable from the wall

[pliant schooner]

Alr

Did that

[little osprey]

huh?

[pliant schooner]

How do I remove the battery

[civic tusk]

Not great imo full of overpriced components with no real benefit to performance

[muted patio]

Silver tab on the left

Push it out, battery pops out

[pliant schooner]

Whew

Where

[little osprey]

its more to look nice

[muted patio]

Silver tab on the left

Push it to the left

ON the battery housing

[pliant schooner]

What silver tab ?

[scenic turret]

That tab

[ripe wedge]

make sure ur pc is off

[jagged ember]

oh yeah

please turn off your pc and unplug the power cord from it

[muted patio]

lol

[ripe wedge]

I see vintage already said

[scenic turret]

Yep they unplugged it already

[pliant schooner]

Ok I clicked it

[jagged ember]

should pop out and be removeable

[pliant schooner]

Ok let me remove it

[ripe wedge]

then wait 2 mins

[pliant schooner]

My hands are to big lol

How do I remove it

[scenic turret]

When you click the tab, it should pop out of its socket

[ripe wedge]

if you have a card of some sort like a credit card you could push it under and pop it out

[pliant schooner]

It did but only a tiny little bit

Should I put in back in now

[jagged ember]

take it out fully

[pliant schooner]

Ik

[jagged ember]

and after 2 mins or so like jake said put it back in

[ripe wedge]

if its been 2 mins then yes

[jagged ember]

oh, carpet building?

[ripe wedge]

shiny battery

[jagged ember]

it do be shiny tho

[ripe wedge]

carpet isnt good cuz static electricity can kill parts

[pliant schooner]

Lol

Alr

[ripe wedge]

but linus has proven it is difficult to kill parts

[jagged ember]

yeah, i'd build on solid floors without carpets

but again, that

however it is possible

[ripe wedge]

but the possibility is there

[pliant schooner]

It’s a prebuilt I just did something on accident

[jagged ember]

i wouldn't take risks if i could avoid them lol

[pliant schooner]

Should I build my pc

[ripe wedge]

huh

[jagged ember]

is your prebuilt enough for you?

[pliant schooner]

I was just saying Idek

[ripe wedge]

I mean as long as its holding solid frames

and it plays all you want

[jagged ember]

if it's doing what you need it to do at a reasonable level

[pliant schooner]

I mean it gets like 150

[jagged ember]

i wouldn't say you need a new pc

you do need to undust that thing sometime though

[ripe wedge]

thinking about my pc I need an anti sag bracket....

[pliant schooner]

Ik

[jagged ember]

use a blower to blow out all the dust

[pliant schooner]

Ok I put the battery back in what do I do

[ripe wedge]

or vacuum

[jagged ember]

preferably outside the house probably

[ripe wedge]

I sometimes vacuum the front mesh to get dust off it

[jagged ember]

plug everything back in and turn it on, see if it works

oh mesh stuff def vaccum

dust inside the pc needs to be blown off

[ripe wedge]

yeah

[scenic turret]

So the P400a doesn't have a mesh filter rather the front panel is the filter.....dust literally collects on the front

[jagged ember]

perfect

just vaccum it right off

[scenic turret]

Ikr

[muted patio]

Easy to wipe it off

P500A is the same

[jagged ember]

or wipe

[muted patio]

Once a week, quick microfiber wipe

[scenic turret]

That's what I did, wiped it off every week

[pliant schooner]

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH (:

[ripe wedge]

glad its working fine now even tho I barely helped

[fossil halo]

clear cmos is so poggers

@slender sparrow i like the second one better bc u can get that nice natural sunlight during the day

[potent portal]

Eww sunlight

[fossil halo]

bruh

idk if thats just me

but like

my head gurts

hurts

if im in the dark with my computer for too long

[potent portal]

It's not just you that's how eyes work
Eyes have to strain in the dark so long periods can cause headaches

[balmy patio]

ye, idk about you but setting a nice warmer/cooler color scheme on the screen helps with eye strain from staring at the screen for so long in the dark

it just relieves stress from my eyes a lil

[hasty tendon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9zLvht

what do y'all think?

[balmy patio]

you can get a cheaper z490 board like the z490-a pro, or even the prime z490m-plus, you can get that rgb ram if you insist, the cooler can be swapped for like a black 224-xt, but it's about the same price and the black hyper 212 doesn't look too bad, 1660s' price is high, might as well get a 5600xt for the same price or get a fe3060 for like 30 bucks more, two more fans will be ideal for that case and the psu is overkill for the system, you'll be fine with a good 500-550w psu or a decent 600w psu like the segotep gp, which is tier b and around the 50 bucks range

[desert gulch]

i honestly have to say i got a hyper 212 black and its quality was pretty amazing. The hardware that came with it felt pretty high quality for 30 bucks

https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-rgb-black-edition-rr-212s-20pc-r1/p/N82E16835103277?Item=N82E16835103277&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-V4uXoP78_KPMuQaEt8pFFA

and this hyper 212 is a good price tbh

32 bucks for a rgb 212 aint bad at all

[balmy patio]

pure rock 2 is also a great option in the 40 bucks range, but i'd rather have the matte black look on the black 212 then like a carbon fiber look on the pure rock 2

@hasty tendon what's your overall budget for the system?

looks like you're going for a black aesthetic so i'll follow that

[quasi snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LqTdz7
I'd just change the case and psu to this

[desert gulch]

uhhh

one thing

rgb hyper 212 is cheaper rn

better deal imo

[balmy patio]

frick rgb

black aesthetic gang

[desert gulch]

ram overpriced

imo

id go with non rgb

[hasty tendon]

i already have the m.2 so not counting that $1000

hold on i have to read all of this

i just realized you all responded

[desert gulch]

lol

[quasi snow]

if it's 1k not including ssd then I'd put the rest of the money into the gpu

[hasty tendon]

oh someone else convinced me to change the case to this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZJcRsY/phanteks-eclipse-p360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWNXW3 tbh, this doesn't look bad

[hasty tendon]

so no h510

[balmy patio]

bruv

sadness : (

[hasty tendon]

wdym?

[balmy patio]

it looks like a great case imo

[hasty tendon]

they said too hot bad

it does

i almost just ignored it

but i dont want anything to go wrong

new to this too

[balmy patio]

it's fine if you have a decent cooling configuration in my opinion

[hasty tendon]

wouldnt know what to do lol

[balmy patio]

two fans in front, one on top, and one in the back is the best you can do in that price point afaik

it's be cool if you can fit sum 140mm fans innit, lemme check

if you still want to keep the case @hasty tendon

[hasty tendon]

the new case would be more convenient to me because i THINK the fans included are mounted already so then all i would have to do is plug them in. if not then id just go with what your saying

[hasty tendon]

is this the exact same one i chose but with RGB?

[desert gulch]

yea

just a different fan

[balmy patio]

the nzxt case comes with two fans pre-installed on the top and rear mounts

[hasty tendon]

cool then ill change it to that

[desert gulch]

ight

its on promo rn

idk how long itll be on sale tho

[hasty tendon]

ill just buy it now then lol

[hasty tendon]

i am

with rgb in the mix

obviously

[balmy patio]

cool

[hasty tendon]

just a little tho

[balmy patio]

yee, it'll look good

[hasty tendon]

someone said that the one i chose was pointless because i cant oc but i picked it because it looked nice

[balmy patio]

oh i forgot to mention sum

you should also wait for mobo manufacturers to release their mobos with the b560 chipset

you won't be able to oc the chip but you'll finally be able to oc ram and get it running at rated speeds instead of being capped at 2666mhz for the i5/i3 chips or 2993mhz? for the i7 chips

[hasty tendon]

how long do you think?

[balmy patio]

so for now, buying z490 for the ram oc is acceptable but if you can, just wait

[balmy patio]

wdym?

[hasty tendon]

how long until i can buy one

[balmy patio]

idk bruh, iirc they were supposed to come out in january or so

some manufacturers have them in their websites if you want to give em a look

[hasty tendon]

for the mobo i chose the ram would be locked at 2666?

[balmy patio]

no, you'll be able to run it at 3200mhz

on the current b-series chipset (b460), you'll be capped at 2666mhz with that chip (10400f)

[hasty tendon]

ohh ok

[balmy patio]

lmk once the build's done, looks like it's gonna come out great

oh, and the 3060 is supposed to come out later this month, so watch out for that!

[hasty tendon]

Alright Thanks

[bronze island]

Hey

Does anyone suggest a good case, AIO cooler for a Ryzen 9 3900XT?

my case has 2 fans and my Stock cooler is not cutting it

[balmy patio]

ek-aio basic and the liquid freezer ii are great options at their price points and cool well

[bronze island]

I have 2 fans in my case in total, and my Ryzen 9 averages 45 celcius plus for temp

I was looking at a new case for better air flow all aroundf

[quiet parrot]

Ok, I am trying to add an NVIDIA card to my Dell computer. It needs an 8 pin power supply that my original Dell Precision Tower 3620 psu did not have. I orderded a new Corsair CX650 psu and a 24 to 8 pin adapter and was hoping that was the end of my problems. NOPE! The Dell mother board needs an additional 4 pin plug. I saw on a video how you can split the extra 8 pin in half and there is the power for the mother board. BUT, I need that for my NVIDIA card. Now what?

Sorry, trying to see what will upload. The photos from my iphone fail when I try to upload them, even though they are JPEG

Here are the power supply units connectors from the new PSU.

[muted patio]

Didn't I help you? There was another adapter you needed to get also

The 24 to 4 pin adapter for the Dell motherboard

yeah, this one

https://www.amazon.com/Eyeboot-8-Pin-Supply-Adapter-Motherboards/dp/B01A210HKO

Wait, let me check again

[quiet parrot]

Yes, I remember you. I bought the 24 to 8 pin adapter you guided me to . the problem is the there are two connections from the psu to the mb. The 24 to 8 pin was one, and there is a 4 pin square connector. That 4 pin is the problem

[muted patio]

Hmmmm, wonder what that 4 pin does?

[quiet parrot]

Here is the psu you recommended.

[muted patio]

Let me find out

That wasn't mentioned in anything I read

[quiet parrot]

I noticed that the mb supplies the power for the drives as well. The old psu does not power them

[muted patio]

Are they SATA drives?

Easy fix for that is to just let the Corsair power them

Should have the plugs for it

No need to have the motherboard power things, just power them directly from the Corsair.

Is it number 24 in this picture?

[quiet parrot]

I will try that next, just didn't know what that 4 pin powered.

[muted patio]

is it number 24 or number 13 you need?

The black one or the Tan one?

[quiet parrot]

Its the #13 I need

[muted patio]

Ah, ok stand by pls

Ok, number 13 just takes regular CPU power. On the Corsair supply, there should be an 8 pin connector labeled CPU that splits into 2 4 pin connectors. ONE of the 4 pin connectors goes there

In this picture it's the 8 pin plug dead in the center. It should split in half.

[quiet parrot]

True, but I need that 8 pin to power the NVIDIA card. So I'm deficient again.

[muted patio]

No sir!

The 6+2 pin power connector is for your GPU

The one that's laying where your thumb and forefinger come together on your hand

Should be labeled PCI-E or VGA

Those are for the NVIDIA card

[quiet parrot]

But the PCI plug is only 6 pin, the video card has an 8 pin connection

[muted patio]

There is a 2 pin add on plug connected to it. The two fit together to make 8 pins

They're on the same cable

[crude pecan]

Vintage when you get a sec slide into #build-pics and lmk what you think

[muted patio]

Like this

[quiet parrot]

Ok, I see the 2 pin add on. That should do it?

[muted patio]

Yep!

That goes in your NVIDIA graphics card

[quiet parrot]

Cool! How do I know which side the 2 pin goes? On the left or the right?

don't want to blow the board

[crude pecan]

There may be a pin on either side

[crude pecan]

Yeah

[muted patio]

The plug is keyed in such a way it will only fit one way

[next kestrel]

the latch should lock on

[muted patio]

Don't force it

It will fit

I mean, it will only fit one way into the GPU

[crude pecan]

try to identify it first on the gpu

[quiet parrot]

And when I split the 8 pin for the cpu, how do I know which goes to the mb, the left or right?

Got it, I'll dry fit it without power first.

[muted patio]

The side with the two square pins is the one you want

for the CPU connector

[quiet parrot]

Ok, thanks a million for the helpl thank you PSY as well.

[muted patio]

Welcome!

[eager flower]

Newoggians

[crude pecan]

No problem

let us know if you need help with anything else

[eager flower]

I have nothing to talk about any more

So

I hope you guys have a good night

[crude pecan]

Look at my pc build #build-pics

[eager flower]

And sleep well tk everyone who’s sleeping soon

[crude pecan]

Let me know what you think

[eager flower]

This isn’t general

Oops

It looks good though, what gpu

[crude pecan]

ASrock phantom x rx570 8gb

@eager flower

[eager flower]

Ah I’ve never reslly seen asrock gpus

[granite barn]

1660 supers we're being sold on nzxt refurbished they are now removed I saved the 1660 super in the cart before they were taken off the site but it is still in my cart and is still giving me the option to buy it can anyone please tell me whether or not I should buy it.

[fast dust]

@crude pecan as someone who also vertically mounted a cheap GPU i respect you

[desert gulch]

@granite barn what price is it rn?

[granite barn]

200

[ripe wedge]

what website is that on? @granite barn

[fast dust]

NZXT refurbished

[ripe wedge]

oh nzxt

[granite barn]

nzxt

[ripe wedge]

then go for it

they should honor your purchase and if not they will refund or you can dispute with your bank

[granite barn]

ok

thanks

[little osprey]

Who’s someone who builds pc for others! For pming

[hollow grail]

no one here because we dont do selling or buying here

isnt that right @earnest olive

[ripe wedge]

its best to look in your local area on like facebook marketplace

for builders

[little osprey]

Just wanted an opinion on a motherboard

[jagged ember]

Coulda started with that

[hollow grail]

i dont get why so many ppl ask to pm

in the public build help channel

like dont you want more than one opinion lol

[little osprey]

Should I go all cooler master fans since I have a cooler master aio

[mortal garnet]

any recommendations for sfx power supplies ?

o and budget m.2s also

[hollow grail]

mp34 cute

pilot e also cute

[mortal garnet]

thx lili

im lowkey down bad rn lmao, rip my wallet

[hollow grail]

rippe

[sharp pelican]

Intel ssds are pretty good for the money

[stoic island]

@hollow grail lili, you got a mp34 yet for testing? >:D

[crude pecan]

Aye : D

[hollow grail]

no one has sent one over

so

nah

[stoic island]

fun

[rigid oracle]

heres a lil vent about macos

[still roost]

SpaceRat#6734 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rigid oracle]

oh

[still roost]

SpaceRat#6734 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

SpaceRat#6734 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[rich helm]

Lol

This is hilarious

[uncut pelican]

Ikr

[sullen spoke]

smh

watch language

[tame sable]

Hello there

[uncut pelican]

Sup

[tame sable]

uhh

[uncut pelican]

What

[tame sable]

can you help me

[uncut pelican]

Sure

With what

[next kestrel]

that was the price for a couple of months, its actually not in stock

[tame sable]

like selecting components

[uncut pelican]

Alright

Budget?

[tame sable]

£650 - £700

829$ - 967$

[uncut pelican]

So roughly 1k usd

[tame sable]

ye

[uncut pelican]

Aighy

[tame sable]

and can it have an RTX Gpu

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2XJwK3

Its like 1200 but we can make it cheaper

A 3060 ti ok?

[tame sable]

can do

can go maybe down to 2000 cards]

[uncut pelican]

Cards?

[worn wave]

You won't be able to find RTX 2000 series new

Most likely only used

[uncut pelican]

OH

Omg

Im tired sorry

Why would you want a 2000 series card?

[tame sable]

im honestly not bothered if i get the poarts new or not

parts*

[worn wave]

B450-F VRMs aint the greatest, i highly suggest the B450 Tomahawk MAX instead

[muted patio]

Doesn't matter for 3600 TBH

[worn wave]

true

[tame sable]

a friend has a b450

[muted patio]

ONly worry about VRm's for high end processors

[tame sable]

tomahawk max

[worn wave]

but Personally I would rather get the tomahawk max

[muted patio]

And honestly, all the hubbub about VRM is kinda useless anyway

[strong knoll]

Would some 3600mhz ram be better too?

[worn wave]

For Ryzen 3000 generally yes.

[muted patio]

Well

[worn wave]

It's not a huge performance difference but Ryzen 3000 generally does best with 3600MHz

[tame sable]

i dont care about ramspeed

[small osprey]

you should

ram speed affects perf

[worn wave]

It's not like 3600MHz is way more expensive than 3200MHz anyways

[rich helm]

Here’s a decent list @tame sable https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j2cZvf

[fossil halo]

Wait guys

When I turn my pc on in the morning

Like I press the power button

It turns on, turns off, and then turns on and boots

ping me when u answer

[potent portal]

Unplug it and wait a few minutes before plugging it back in. If that doesn't help, CMOS reset or maybe your power options are weird. Some boards will also do this if the memory is overclocked and it fails to boot the first time.

[fossil halo]

yea thats what i found online

bc u see

i had docp on for a while

it just started happening

does it mean that i should update bios?

[potent portal]

It might help with memory issues

[fossil halo]

oh

and also

does it have to do with me hibernating my pc at night

instead of sleep

does that make a difference?

[potent portal]

Probably not, but I disable hibernation on my computer for 3 reasons:
It boots super fast anyway because SSD
Sometimes if you tell it to shut down, you don't know for sure if it actually shut down or if it hibernated
Disabling it saves disk space which can equal your amount of RAM

[little osprey]

errr

its alright

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMLVgt would go for this and buy a splitter

or u could just go p360a and use the splitter included with the case

@surreal stone just send the goddamn link at the top jesus christ

theres no reason u should be flooding chat with images theres a link for a reason

[surreal stone]

Sorry didn’t know

[balmy patio]

you can get this to get more performance, even shaved off about 30 bucks if they want to get another case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WxLHz

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys just wondering the the rog strix oc the best 3080

[little osprey]

err spending almost 80 usd more on a z490 board ?

that performance increase isn't gonna be worth that extra 80 btw

i mean sure rocket lake and all that but imo not worth it

[surreal stone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMpdz7/add_to_cart/

[potent portal]

@wicked frigate It's one of the best, but hard to definitively say "best" anything when it comes to parts

[wicked frigate]

What about good one

[balmy patio]

yee it's not worth it, not until b560 comes out, i only put the z490 board cuz of the memory oc and because the budget allowed it

[fossil halo]

def not price to perf

strix tax is rather large

[little osprey]

at that point just go 10700f and b460 ?

[fossil halo]

nononono

dudes

[wicked frigate]

So you guys are saying there are no the best 3080

[fossil halo]

11th gen intel is gonna work on z490 motherboards

[little osprey]

mem oc on 10400 wont be impacting much

[wicked frigate]

What had the best performance

[little osprey]

only on some

[balmy patio]

if they want too they can

[fossil halo]

price to perf probably evga imo

evga has really good coolers and factory oc

[wicked frigate]

What about asus

[fossil halo]

prices are good too

[balmy patio]

it does, outperforms the 3600 in gaming by a lil and it's cheaper than buying a 3600 and sum b550 motherboard

[potent portal]

"Best" is a very arbitrary term, what works "best" for one person is garbage to another

[wicked frigate]

I see

[fossil halo]

strix is good too but again they are just very expensive

[wicked frigate]

Than how can I tell of it would work best for me

[little osprey]

i mean in standard base b460 performance. ur paying almost an upwards of 80 usd for what? 5 to 7 fps increase

no one would be buying b550 for zen 2 anyways

tbh z490 on 10400/f is useless unless u can find it for fairly cheap

[fossil halo]

wait why

i use b550 for zen 2

[little osprey]

and within this scenario its not the case

[little osprey]

3700x ?

[fossil halo]

yea

[little osprey]

then ur fine

[wicked frigate]

What about subprime C

X

I meant

[fossil halo]

oh

suprim x?

msi

um i actually heard that those are pretty good cards

but they are not too aesthetically pleasing imo

[wicked frigate]

Wait

[little osprey]

hi red

[full atlas]

Ima sell and get a 3060ti

[full atlas]

[wicked frigate]

What do are u suppose to look for when buying an GPU

[fossil halo]

thats cap u need at least 450 to get a basic 3060ti

[fossil halo]

literally atm get any 3080 you can get

even close to msrp

[full atlas]

How is it cap that I can spend 100$ more than I get?

[fossil halo]

that is an good point

[little osprey]

ok

[wicked frigate]

What’s about the ftw3

[fossil halo]

yea i heard that the ftw3 is a really good one

[wicked frigate]

K

Ok thx

[fossil halo]

really just get any that u think looks nice

msot of them like the cooler performance is not too much differenct

different

[wicked frigate]

Which has the best cooling

And shader cores

Shader

[fossil halo]

the cards dont add shader cores

[wicked frigate]

Oh ok

What’s bout cooling

[fossil halo]

the different companies jsut make different coolers

for the cards

[wicked frigate]

I see

Ok my options are probably ftw3 of strix oc

Rn

[potent portal]

If money isn't a problem those 2 would be decent options

[wicked frigate]

Anything better

??

[fossil halo]

ftw3 prob better option

[wicked frigate]

@potent portal

But I want performance wise

[fossil halo]

again doesnt really matter

the difference between models isnt too large\

just check the clock speeds

[wicked frigate]

Which one has highest

[fossil halo]

idk off the top of my head

[wicked frigate]

It’s oc

Bro how does3060 have more memory than 3070 3080

[fossil halo]

it just does

has less cores tho

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[fossil halo]

and its memory is slower than the 10gb gddr6x in the 3080

[wicked frigate]

What’s better ek or attic freezer I

Ii

[fossil halo]

i think freezer better in terms of thermals by a tiny bit but it looks horrendously horrifying

ek is a overall good choice

looks good cools well

[wicked frigate]

K

[potent portal]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080.c3621

If you click the "boost clock" tab in the chart it'll sort from high to low, best boost to lowest

[fossil halo]

i literally wanna watercool my gt 710 just for the sake of watercooling

after i get a new gpu ima try and mod my gt 710 to overclock it higher

[junior mural]

Should i do anything to my setup
1050 ti , 4790, and 16 GB of ram

[potent portal]

Depends, what kind of budget do you have?

[muted patio]

Nope

Save money and invest in some newer hardware

[fossil halo]

yeah

save up like at least 500-600$

[junior mural]

I mean this is the only chance for a gaming pc I can get

[fossil halo]

how much can you save up tho

[muted patio]

because a new Intel 10400F for $130 will be faster than that 4790

[fossil halo]

LOL

[junior mural]

I spent 200 on the optiplex that came with a 4790 16 GB of ram and a wifi csrd

And the 1050ti for 60 dollars

[fossil halo]

yea

i mean

[muted patio]

Great budget build

[fossil halo]

theres not much you can do

[junior mural]

Should i get anything else like ssd?

[fossil halo]

are u booting off a hdd rn?

[junior mural]

Yes

[fossil halo]

SHIET

[junior mural]

I have a wd blue

[muted patio]

An SSD is the ONLY thing I would get because it can be re-used in a new PC

[fossil halo]

GET THIS MAN AN SSD

[junior mural]

Uh what does this cable do

Bottom left is my hard disk

[muted patio]

SAATA cable

For another hard drive or SSD looks like

[junior mural]

I spent 300 dollars on the pc itself

But my chair, and keyboard

Which is possideon z?

Kailh switches

I think

[jagged bane]

@tender oriole for the build you posted in #build-pics what 3060ti is that?

ping me back thanks

[fossil halo]

@jagged bane

https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-RTX3060TI-O8G/

[little osprey]

does the amount of fans you can have depend on ur motherboard?

[quick wind]

well somewhat yes, there is only a certain amount of fan connectors on a mobo, but you can ghet a splitter which just divides the connections so you can add more fans

[muted patio]

Not really. Just get a Fan Hub. Can power lots of fans with one of those.

[neat reef]

How much should I sell this ADATA 4gb DDR3 1600mhz for? Two of them, online they are around $20-$25 each, idk if those are super old postings that no one is ever buying from though

[small osprey]

that is really slow

[quick wind]

yeaaaaa

[small osprey]

hardly anyone uses ddr3 these days

and only 4 gb too

[neat reef]

8gb

[small osprey]

oh 8 gb?

[little osprey]

I have 9 corsair fans 3 of them being on an nzxt cooler what fan hub do u suggest? @muted patio

[small osprey]

i would sell for 25 ish

[neat reef]

Two 4gb

Someone offered $30.. CAD btw

[quick wind]

dang

[neat reef]

I thought $40 since they are at stores for $25 each

[muted patio]

I have this one. Can run 10 fans with it. https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-FH-10-Integrated-Occupying-Motherboard/dp/B077YHLDSP

[quick wind]

the only type of group that would need that ram is like server centers, but even they usually have more than that nowadays

[little osprey]

i heard the corsair vengeance pro is good from an irl friend, what are your thoughts on that?

[small osprey]

its alright

[quick wind]

i have the 16 gb kit at 3200

[neat reef]

I think probs people wanting to make super cheap systems for their mom and stuff lol

[quick wind]

its the best budget ram basically

[muted patio]

Ram? Nah

Crucial Ballistix is better

[severe axle]

aren't those more expensive with higher latency?

yeah the 3600 c16 crucial kit

[muted patio]

Or Trident Z Neo with good timings

[neat reef]

I got that yesterday

[little osprey]

i’m sorry

the commander pro😂

[muted patio]

lol

Commander Pro only does 6 fans

And has proprietary RGB connectors

And it's $60

[little osprey]

what are proprietary rgb connectors

[muted patio]

Non standard, uses Corsair only RGB connectors

Tiny little weird things

[little osprey]

ah okay

the one u sent works for all fans?

[muted patio]

Yes

Any and all fans

[little osprey]

cool thank you

[muted patio]

Speed only, not RGB part

For the RGB, just daisy chain them to your motherboard

[little osprey]

oh okay gotcha

[little osprey]

was thinking of getting one

[muted patio]

I have one, it's kinda awesome

SATA power so don't have to worry about fan headers

[little osprey]

sata power

[muted patio]

Plus one PWM cable for 10 fans, makes for a clean build

[little osprey]

aaa wait hol up

sata and pwm ?

[muted patio]

yeah so the power comes from a SATA plug on the PSU

[little osprey]

and the pwm goes to mobo?

[muted patio]

And one cable goes to a fan header for PWM control

[little osprey]

o wtf

[muted patio]

So can control all your fans from one header

[little osprey]

oh thats how it gets 10

[muted patio]

Ye

[little osprey]

neat

okay but molex fans >

montech x1 moment

[muted patio]

oof

Those are not controllable at all

It's either on or off

[little osprey]

wat abt rpm response ?

not much of a fan guy but thats what i heard

[muted patio]

Molex doesn't have RPM response

It's literally either full speed or off

[little osprey]

zoinks

sata has rpm response then ?

[crude pecan]

@little osprey paste your build in here

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCKJGq

[crude pecan]

There we go

[little osprey]

Changed to a 36 gn set 3600 cl16. Was 4000 with cl18

[crude pecan]

you can keep the 4000 probably its just pricing tbh.

[gusty abyss]

funny thing, the connectors corsair uses actually aren't proprietary

they're a locking standard that almost nobody uses lmao

you can get adapters

[muted patio]

What is that NVME drive?

Super overpriced

[little osprey]

Dunno gonna change it

[muted patio]

Get an SK Hynix gold or something

[little osprey]

I just want to make sure the motherboard is gonna have the slots to work with the parts.

[muted patio]

that case is $300 also......way overkill

[little osprey]

This was sent to me

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=nvme+ssd+1tb&qid=1613065122&s=electronics&sr=1-14

I like big

I have a 150 lb amp with 250 lb speakers. Future proof is my thing.

[crude pecan]

Thats what I said about the nvme

I sent him the nvme

the mb/s might be too much for your mobo though

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYf24d

My build, my ram is future proof

[muted patio]

wat

[sharp blade]

i would go 32gb with higher speed

[severe axle]

and they just released a new version of that same ram

[potent portal]

3200 is not future proof

[severe axle]

its shorter

[little osprey]

Shorter?

As in smaller?

[muted patio]

Should be 3600 if you want future proof lol. Losing a tad of performance with 3200

[little osprey]

That would not work with my mobo

Is 400mhz really that big a deal?

[muted patio]

wat?

of course it will work

[little osprey]

Plus I got all that for $240

[muted patio]

X570 will do 4200 mhz, most of them

or faster

[little osprey]

@muted patio I said smaller ram

[severe axle]

new ones

[little osprey]

Ahh

Thought you meant length

I'm not worried about height

[muted patio]

It can be a big deal, yes

[little osprey]

400mhz?

[muted patio]

I'm assuming you'll be doing some rendering with this yeah?

Video and photo editing?

[little osprey]

No