building-and-recc-chat

[brittle tinsel]

well, I dont think I plan on overclocking unless pushing a 3900x to 4.0 will help with gamng, and given 750 watt will hold that with a 3060ti. other than that, my last build Was Really Really loud, you couldnt hear the fans just the hard drives. but I always have a loud A/C on so noise doesnt bother me

[jovial berry]

Okay I think the usb is FAT32

[wise sorrel]

@little osprey is that new layout good for primary gaming?

[jovial berry]

But just in case how can I find how that it is? @potent portal

[potent portal]

Do you have another computer running Windows you can check it on? It's easy if so.

[jovial berry]

Yeah I do

[potent portal]

Ok go to my computer, right click the drive, and hit properties. It's on that page under file system

[jovial berry]

Okay thank you

[little osprey]

@wise sorrel yeah it's pretty good

[strong knoll]

how do you know if the USB is fat 32 format, something in the properties ?

[potent portal]

Yeah when you go into the drive properties there's a row with "file system: 'X'"

[muted patio]

As far as I know you can't format a USB to NTFS can you?

[potent portal]

You can

[muted patio]

Oh interesting

never tried TBH

[potent portal]

And ExFAT

And ext4

[lyric thistle]

compresses flashdrive NTFSingly

[muted patio]

Ye, knew about those for Linux

[strong knoll]

should i have them in FAT32 for just downloading windows or do i need it for BIOS too

[potent portal]

BIOS usually wants FAT32. The vast majority of USB installer creator software will do FAT32 by default.

Your hard drive can be any format you want but for BIOS to read the USB it should be FAT32.

[strong knoll]

i can change the name of the USB right and it wont mess with anything when downloading windoes or bios on to it ?

[potent portal]

Nah the drive label is mostly for easily telling them apart from each other, like if you got a pack of 4 identical USB and they all had different things on them, you'd know at a glance when you plug it in what each has.

[strong knoll]

ok thx

[eternal igloo]

is a 10600kf over powered for a 1660 super?

[worn wave]

No

[rancid quartz]

I’m not very tech savvy so this may sound a bit weird but does anyone know what would cause a cpu to try and run the burden of graphics in a game at 2k? For some reason whenever I run a taxing game like Valhalla, the cpu seems to be doing more of the work being pushed to about 40-50% and the gpu is only like 1-5%

[muted patio]

Are yuou using Task Manager?

[worn wave]

Which GPU and CPU

[muted patio]

It doesn't report GPU load properly

[potent portal]

Yeah Assassin's Creed games are very CPU heavy, nothing to be done about that

[muted patio]

For example, it tells me Cyberpunk is only using 1-2% of my GPU lol

I'd recommend using something like MSI Afterburner with the OSD on to see real GPU useage

[rancid quartz]

Yea I’m using the task manager and it showed 50% usage, my cpu is a ryzen 7 3800x and my gpu is a 2070 super

[potent portal]

Vintage is right, task manager bad for monitoring

[fossil halo]

yea

get like

ryzen center

[rancid quartz]

I do have afterburner, didn’t think to check that

[fossil halo]

LOLZ

[potent portal]

Ryzen Master only shows CPU though

[muted patio]

Yeah, there's an OSD setting in Afterburner. Turn it on for the in game overlay

[fossil halo]

true

cam is bad

i should uninstall actually

the temps on cam are just straight up wrong

[rancid quartz]

Ahh ok I’ll have to check that. So you guys said Valhalla was cpu heavy, would constant game crashes in there point towards a bad cpu?

[potent portal]

HWinfo has always been pretty accurate for me but not very inuitive

Depends on the kind of crash

[muted patio]

most game crashes are honestly GPU driver related. not all, but most. More rare incidents are RAM or CPU related

[rancid quartz]

At first the game crashed during the startup screen, so I did some tests with my brother’s help and we thought it was a bad gpu so I filed for an rma and got a replacement one. The game continued to crash, then I learned that a Microsoft driver could cause an issue, so I turned it off and I was able to get passed the start up screen and load into the game but it still ended up crashing like crazy in the game

Before the issues arose, I found out that I had bad ram and so I replaced them with 4 royal ram sticks

[desert gulch]

so it works now?

otherwise id check all drivers and temps to make sure it isnt crashing due to overheating

[potent portal]

With so many issues I'd also be looking at the motherboard as a possible cause, especially if changing other hardware isn't working.

[rancid quartz]

Sadly no, still crashes whenever I run Valhalla or any other game, been trying to find the issue since November

[fossil halo]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

gt 710 moment

[potent portal]

Power and motherboard are what I'd look at next

[rancid quartz]

I had an assumption that maybe the power supply was bad so I tried replacing that but no luck

[potent portal]

Then motherboard seems to be the only common factor

[fossil halo]

gg's

motherboard replacement means rebuild pc

[rancid quartz]

Is there any way to test the motherboard for issues?

[fossil halo]

debug lights when crashed?

are there any lights that turn on when the pc crashes

[desert gulch]

what are temps looking like?

in games?

[fossil halo]

usually in one of the corneres of the motherboard

[potent portal]

There's not really a reliable test for motherboard failure. If you've already swapped just about everything else with no luck, it's either some weird software/driver problem or the motherboard

[fossil halo]

c l e a r c m o s

try that

it is like

someone needs to pin the blunt instrument fixes

[potent portal]

True, that's a good first step

[austere herald]

i just had to rma a new asus prime cause of that

[fossil halo]

reseat ram/gpu

clear cmos

[potent portal]

He already got new RAM

[fossil halo]

turn it off and then turn it on again

[potent portal]

And GPU

[rancid quartz]

Not sure if any lights turn on when it crashes, the temps I believe are pretty low. I’ll try to check the lights when it crashes

[sharp osprey]

Someone asked if I would do a trade for their 2070 extreme Aorus for a 3070 FE

It’s not huh

[still roost]

Zac'sMyBitch#0189 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sharp osprey]

I forgot

They also want to add a hundo

[muted patio]

Why downgrade though?

[sharp osprey]

I’m just asking if the trade is worth it

[muted patio]

IMO, no

[sharp osprey]

I don’t really need that much power

Okay

[fossil halo]

wow u have a 3070fe

keep that thing

[potent portal]

That 3070 is worth its weight in gold right now

[fossil halo]

deadass

[sharp osprey]

Lol

[granite lily]

I need a case for an ATX mobo and a 3090 RTX. I dont really care if it has RGB or not, im busy gaming not staring at the tower. What you guys think? Is there anything to look for in a case?

[worn wave]

Good airflow

P500A

Meshify 2

[potent portal]

Fractal Design Meshify C

[granite lily]

Thanks ill check em out!

still cant beleive external bays are going the way of the dodo

Where do you young whipper snappers put your AOL disc?

[muted patio]

On a 10,000 RPM angle grinder and watch them explode lol

[worn wave]

Define 7 has 5.25" bays

[rancid quartz]

@fossil halo So no lights turn on when the game crashes. Wonder if it’s because the whole pc doesn’t crash just the application

[fossil halo]

oh

so its just the application thats crashing

then try and reinstall the game

uninstall and reinstall the game

[rancid quartz]

I believe so, thought it was just Valhalla, so I tried WoW, the Witcher 3 and no good. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it a few times, even tried on different ssd’s

I even did a reinstall of Windows at the beginning, didn’t completely wipe windows, just did a clean install

[tough beacon]

should I start building my PC and wait until I get my graphics card?

I am waiting for my GTX 1650 super to arrive at February 24th.

[austere wagon]

How long does it usually take to install windows

[worn wave]

Not long if on SSD

[austere wagon]

Ah it’s speeding up now

[wise sorrel]

The story if my damn life... and there were 3 video cards on it 😭

[cursive wharf]

yeah, so it sounds like you dont really need custom liquid cooling tbf. Also wouldnt get it with a 3060Ti and rather just get a better GPU

[wanton cliff]

Huh?

[balmy patio]

yesterday you said you were gonna make a tier list of sum

[wanton cliff]

I will

[fossil halo]

Yea like the ultimate

[wise sorrel]

Ok attempt #3 so far...

An original idea was to do a white build. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CG4cj2

The cpu may change unless it's ok

[wanton cliff]

I don’t see a GPU

Otherwise I wouldn’t change a thing

Either the VISION OC or STRIX WHITE 3070 cards would go well with that @wise sorrel

[wise sorrel]

Gpu depends on what I csn get my hands on hahaha

But the vision of is my main choice

Oc*

[wanton cliff]

I would try and go for the strix

Overall higher build quality

Plus some nice RGB

[wise sorrel]

The white 1?

[wanton cliff]

Yep

[wise sorrel]

@wanton cliff https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y96qqs/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming

This 1?

[wanton cliff]

That’s a motherboard

Not a GPU

[wise sorrel]

Oh see I thought you meant the Mob this whole time lol

[wanton cliff]

[wise sorrel]

I'm so tired I need to go to bed

[wanton cliff]

Yes

Sleep

[topaz zealot]

So liquid cooled is better on the CPU?

[wanton cliff]

Depends

Which cpu, which cooler, compared to what

What price point

Etc

[still bay]

yo

i need a good 4tb hdd

[wanton cliff]

WD Blue

[muted patio]

Toshiba X300

[wanton cliff]

That too

X300 probs better actually

[still bay]

after they ruined my current one

[muted patio]

backblaze has reported like 0% failure rate for two quarters now with those lol

[wanton cliff]

He say, in the Newegg discord server

[still bay]

oh wait

LMAO

[muted patio]

It's fine

[still bay]

i forgot this was newegg discord

im sorry

[muted patio]

No one cares

Honestly, it's fine

[still bay]

u guys arent like employees tho

[muted patio]

Oh heck NO

[still bay]

anyone in this dsicord an employee?

[muted patio]

Only employees are those listed as Staff

and Mike, the Discord Owner

[still bay]

newegg staff

[wanton cliff]

We support first amendment

Unless you swear, then it’s certain death

[still bay]

in that case

[still roost]

milky#4845 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[still bay]

oh

newegg good unless its bad

[wanton cliff]

Told you

[muted patio]

Yeah, things happen

[still bay]

https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Performance-Desktop-Internal-HDWE140XZSTA/dp/B013JPKUU2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3FF2AI6YU7353&dchild=1&keywords=toshiba+x300+4tb&qid=1612925832&sprefix=toshiba+x300%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3

oh hold up

wanna see a magic trick

https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Performance-Desktop-Internal-HDWE140XZSTA/dp/B013JPKUU2/ref=

link = shortened

256mb or 128mb?

6tb sounds kinda nice actually

[muted patio]

I have a 6TB x300

[still bay]

im just gonna use it for games honestly

[muted patio]

HDE160 I think it is

Yeah, mines just for general backups

[still bay]

gotcha

so 256mb 6tb, solid?

[muted patio]

Absolutely

[wanton cliff]

Yep

[still bay]

saturday feb 13th

i guess i can wait :"(

ill be skiing that day too so lol

[wanton cliff]

Same

Where you gonna be?

[still bay]

whitetail

[wanton cliff]

Ah

[still bay]

is the current plan

east coast, yeah

[wanton cliff]

Never been there

[still bay]

sucks but we are just gonna drive up for the day

[wanton cliff]

I’m going to Brecken Ridge in Colorado

[still bay]

luckyyyyy

[muted patio]

saweeeet

We getting like, 12" of snow here end of the week

Gonna be epic

[wanton cliff]

Weak

I got 2 feet just today

[still bay]

we got the first real snow in like years here in dc the other day

was nice

[wanton cliff]

How high is Breckinridge again?

13k feet?

[austere herald]

Trying to figure out what I should do for cpu cooling with a new build . Any opinions

[still bay]

what cpu is that

[austere herald]

Was looking at the LL aio 260 rad ?

[still bay]

260?

[austere herald]

360

[muted patio]

I'd go EK 240mm

[wanton cliff]

You can temporarily use the stock cooler

[still bay]

ek is insanely nice

[muted patio]

Or arctic freezer II

[still bay]

i have the ek 360mm

[muted patio]

if you want AIO

Pretty affordable at $120 too

[still bay]

🥶 in my pc with that

[muted patio]

Yeah

[still bay]

10900k too so

[muted patio]

I have the EVGA CLC 360 with different fans

[still bay]

and it looks sick too

[muted patio]

Stock fans are HORRIBLE LOUD

[still bay]

i gave my stock ek fans to a friend

using ql120's

[sharp osprey]

I have r 7 3700x with Corsair pump and cpu block

[austere herald]

Ek uh ? I was looking at some if the reviews alot of people said they leak?

[still bay]

never heard of that

[muted patio]

Never heard of that either

[still bay]

ek is the best besides arctic

[wanton cliff]

Me neither

[still bay]

people jsut dont wanna see u succeed 💯

[muted patio]

I mean

[sharp osprey]

I’m pretty sure ek does that on their website so they can get you to buy the leak tester

[muted patio]

EK makes a lot of water block stuff that's not AIO

Mostly that, actually

Full loop system parts

[austere herald]

Ya I've seen alot of their kits . Very nice but for the r 3700x I think a closed loop system is a bit over kill

[still bay]

i mean

u can get away with the stock cooler

more than fine

[wanton cliff]

You can just use stock cooler

[wanton cliff]

I said it first

[worn wave]

Noctua ❤️

[wanton cliff]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[still bay]

fake news

[wanton cliff]

Far from it

[sharp osprey]

Reason I have a closed loop is because I’m also going to be adding my gpu

Is a 360mm rad good enough to cool 3700x and a 3070?

[worn wave]

You mean open loop?

A closed loop is a AIO

[sharp osprey]

Mb

Open loop

[still bay]

all good pimp

[earnest olive]

yeah a single 360mm rad should do fine

not sure why custom water for 3700x 3070 though

[still bay]

yeah that seems kinda weird

[worn wave]

In my opinion not really worth it

[sharp osprey]

Wym

[still bay]

balance ur budget

[worn wave]

It's way overkill

It's just a 3700x

[sharp osprey]

Well I’m upgrading my cpu

[earnest olive]

neither of those components are hard to cool

[still bay]

to what

[worn wave]

To what?

[sharp osprey]

Just waiting for stock

I just got b550 strix to support the 5000 series

Don’t know which one yet though

[worn wave]

What CPU you waiting for though?

[sharp osprey]

Any suggestion

Idk just know I’m going to upgrade soon

[worn wave]

I mean the only CPU that I would custom loop is the 5950X

[earnest olive]

a decent 3070 model would have cost much less and not be noticeably louder, my 3080 is pretty much tied with my 360 rad's noise in gaming

with rad fans at 30%

[wanton cliff]

Any B400, X400, B500, X500 board on AM4 supports Ryzen 5000 but ok

Just need a bios update

[sharp osprey]

Yeah but I also wanted pcie gen 4

[austere herald]

Liane Lee 360 rad or the rog strix 360 rad. Is were im at but I'm stuck between the 2 both have great reviews.

[worn wave]

Lian li*

[earnest olive]

could have easily spent that custom loop money on trading your 3070 up for a 3080

[worn wave]

Full custom loop usually costs 300-600

[earnest olive]

@austere herald buy whichever one looks better, none of them perform better than an arctic liquid 360 or evga clc 360 to be worth the price on performance alone

[worn wave]

Depends though

I suggest Arctic or EK for AIOs

[earnest olive]

i bought a silverstone pf360 aio because i thought it looked cool

lol

[wanton cliff]

Unless you put some cooler liquid in there, such as alcohol or saline, but even then...

[earnest olive]

nobody buys an aio to replace the coolant

[sharp osprey]

I was thinking about upgrading my gpu

[earnest olive]

just custom loop at that point

[sharp osprey]

But I’m seeing them go for 1400

[wanton cliff]

I’m talking about custom loop

[still bay]

aio to replace the tubing is neat

[earnest olive]

he's talking about aios though

[wanton cliff]

You were originally talking about custom loops in that message

[earnest olive]

no

two different conversations

[wanton cliff]

The first part implied it at least

Never mind

[earnest olive]

one person talking about custom loops

one person talking about aios

[wanton cliff]

Back on topic

[earnest olive]

rog 360 aio is like double-triple the price of evga clc 360 depending on which of them

[wanton cliff]

Also my hair rn looks like your pfp

[earnest olive]

and it's realistically not going to perform a lot better

rog tax is massive

anyways i have open backed headphones (so zero noise cancelling whatsoever) and my pc is like 2 feet away from my right ear

volume is set to 30%

cannot hear air cooled 3080 during any load

[sharp osprey]

So a custom loop with a 3070 and a r7 3700x is overkill?

[earnest olive]

100%

and when i actually need it to be quiet (studying) the fans just turn off anyways

and you can't really squeeze meaningful extra perf out of the 3070 with custom liquid due to power limits

[sharp osprey]

The fans on my 3070 FE are loud asf

[earnest olive]

set a custom fan curve

[sharp osprey]

It’s not for performance

[earnest olive]

i did a 3070 FE build and it was incredibly silent while running full load

[sharp osprey]

It’s for looks and noise

[earnest olive]

hit something like 64C after 60 consecutive runs of fire strike ultra

and that was with a rad being used as front intake with an 8 core intel cpu

[sharp osprey]

Yeah idk my gpu gets really loud

[earnest olive]

set a fan curve

this was in a microatx case and being fed warm air from cpu

with 1 exhaust fan

and overclocked within an inch of its life

i kicked it up 15mhz more and the entire screen erupted into green artifacts

[wanton cliff]

Love doing this

[earnest olive]

basically

VERY far from an ideal situation

and mesh case so absolutely zero sound dampening

still could barely hear it with no headphones on

[wanton cliff]

Damn

Impressive

[wanton cliff]

I should set up my other fan as exhaust instead of intake

[earnest olive]

SIXTY consecutive runs of fire strike ultra btw

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-damn-nik-nocturnal-damn-man-damn-son-god-damn-gif-17726983

Am i reading that right?

2055 on core clock?

[earnest olive]

yeah it wasn't able to sustain though due to power limit

single 8 pin power

[wanton cliff]

Unlucky

Which AIB?

[earnest olive]

FE

[wanton cliff]

Huh

[earnest olive]

3070 FE is 12 pin with an adapter to single 8 pin

[ripe wedge]

oh yeah I forgot it has single 8 pin

[wanton cliff]

Vision OC ik has an 8 pin and a 6 pin

[earnest olive]

this was 3070 customer build

my own build is 3080 vision

2x 8pin

[wanton cliff]

They won the silicon lottery

[earnest olive]

you can see where it ends in 1x8pin

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

Weird proprietary connectors

I can sorta understand for the 3080 but it makes no sense for the 3070

[earnest olive]

220W TDP, 75W slot power, 150W 8pin spec

well

nvidia is trying to introduce a better connector to the market

[wanton cliff]

Eh

True

[earnest olive]

respect to them for including the adapter free of charge

and it's even braided

[wanton cliff]

But maybe allow it to use all the pins for no power limits

A full 2x8 or even 3x8 if you want

[earnest olive]

these standards change very slowly

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

How long have we been using 6+2 pins?

[earnest olive]

8 pin was introduced in january 2007

idk about 6+2

[wanton cliff]

Full modular I also kinda don’t understand

Maybe if you are powering a system using 2 PSUs and don’t want it to get cluttered?

Otherwise idk

[earnest olive]

oldest card i can find with 6 pin pcie power is 7800 gtx

[wanton cliff]

Which was released in...?

[earnest olive]

june 2005

[wanton cliff]

So it’s older than 8 pin

[earnest olive]

think thats older than you lol

[wanton cliff]

Not quite

Almost

[earnest olive]

i had a 2/3 chance of being right

[wanton cliff]

Actually wait

It’s 2 months older than me

It dies sooner tho

[earnest olive]

oh oops i found some older

[wanton cliff]

Oh?

[earnest olive]

6800 Ultra from jul 2004 has 6 pin

[wanton cliff]

Isn’t that a Radeon card?

[earnest olive]

GeForce 6800 Ultra

lol

[wanton cliff]

I’m pretty sure Radeon used that designation sometimes around here too

6800

[earnest olive]

GeForce 6 is the second generation of PCIe cards from NV

but the highest end card of the first generation is only 57W and doesn't use external power

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-pcx-5950.c54

[wanton cliff]

Ah

5950(x)

I was debating on getting that cpu

Wait one

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-6800-ultra.c720

[wanton cliff]

Damn, can’t find it

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-x850-xt-platinum.c103

[wanton cliff]

I found an obviously bot-written article about the GeForce 3

[fossil halo]

bro

just

get a gt 710

[earnest olive]

oldest from radeon with 6 pin that i can find

[fossil halo]

best apu

gt 710 is an apu if you didnt know

absolutelydogwater processing unit

[wanton cliff]

It said “this graphics card may not be compatible with VR. We recommend getting a 1660 super, which is about 16,577% better”

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-x800-xt-platinum.c23 nvm this one is older

[wanton cliff]

Old

[earnest olive]

march 2004

looks like radeon beat nvidia to the punch

now i must look for the first 8 pin

[fossil halo]

what are we looking at

[wanton cliff]

Oldest use of current connectors

[fossil halo]

oo

[earnest olive]

aha

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-2900-gt.c220

the oldest card with an 8 pin

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-2900-xt.c192

the oldest card with 8+6 pin

with a tdp of 215W... 5 less than 220W

must have been a monster in 2007 lol

[wanton cliff]

Oh yeah

Absolute unit

[celest horizon]

They need a new standard

[wanton cliff]

Dad’s friend had one, still worked fine

[celest horizon]

6+2 pin connector only has 3 conductor pairs

[wanton cliff]

That’s what we were just talking about

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-470-x2.c3000 first double 8 pin gpu apparently from 2010 but never officially released

[wanton cliff]

That’s what sparked this convo

[earnest olive]

GTX 470 X2... what an odd card

WHAT

there was a 580W TDP gpu with 4x8pin power connectors in june 2014

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r9-290x2.c2583

that is... eye watering

[wanton cliff]

Oh my

4 gigs of G5 too

[celest horizon]

Buildzoid says they only put 4 8 pins on it so you wouldn't try run it on a potato psu

[ripe wedge]

pretty epic

lol

[earnest olive]

well

[celest horizon]

Friend's card

[earnest olive]

580W is technically above spec for 3x8 but should be possible with minor overdraw

168.3W per 8 pin

[celest horizon]

It can't actually draw that much, the vrm would explode

[sharp osprey]

How do you set fan curve?

[earnest olive]

msi afterburner is the easiest

[ripe wedge]

^

[earnest olive]

will work on your FE don't worry about it saying msi

i used it to OC the FE

[ripe wedge]

it works with all cards

or most

[sharp osprey]

So what are good temps for gpu:

[earnest olive]

anything that doesn't throttle

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-6970-x2.c3037

[ripe wedge]

so basically below 80C max

[earnest olive]

375W gpu from 2011 with 3x8pin and a cooler that looks hilariously inadequate

[ripe wedge]

you can probably go a bit above but if you are hitting 80C you need better cooling

[earnest olive]

looks like something you would find on a 1050Ti

[wanton cliff]

That cooler looks ghetto as hell

[earnest olive]

dual slot dual fan

[celest horizon]

People don't remember, gpu coolers used to all be kinda garbo

[earnest olive]

i've only been into pcs for about a year

lol

[wanton cliff]

Same

[earnest olive]

not much to remember

my first gpu was a 1080ti and that was already considered kind of old

[celest horizon]

I only really got into hardware mid 2019

[earnest olive]

lol wait

there are gpus that take 8 pin cpu power

[celest horizon]

8 pin EPS uses all four conductor pairs unlike 6+2

[wanton cliff]

Wow, and y’all are already techies and mods

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-a6000.c3686

single 8 pin EPS

300W TDP

interesting

[celest horizon]

ya, 16 awg wire can handle way more than normal spec

[earnest olive]

should bring this up to be pedantic next time someone says you physically cannot plug the cpu power cable into the gpu

[celest horizon]

You'd have to jam it in backwards

So the polarity is at least right

[earnest olive]

there are quite a few radeon gpus powered by floppy drive power

[celest horizon]

I have a soundcard that took molex and I hated it

[earnest olive]

almost looks like a fan header

[celest horizon]

Molex needs to die, that connector is awful to plug/unplug

All those things, pumps etc should just go 6 pin

sata can only do 52 watts for the whole chain anyway

[earnest olive]

i remember seeing some guy whose psu still had a floppy connector and he actually plugged it into a fan header on his mobo and shorted the board

[celest horizon]

It's three +12v pins that are only rated to 1.5A each

[muted patio]

wat

[earnest olive]

turns out those fan headers are expecting to supply power and not receive it..

[muted patio]

Did they let the smoke out of the wires?

[earnest olive]

if i remember correctly

removing the floppy plug from the fan header actually allowed it to boot again

but it was a while ago

so i am not 100% sure on that

[muted patio]

That's kind of amazing

[earnest olive]

the motherboard was probably refusing to boot to protect itself

[celest horizon]

3/the 4 pins on a fan header can be connected to +12 and be fine I think

[earnest olive]

problem was all 4 were

[celest horizon]

Floppy is probably 12, 5 ground ground

[earnest olive]

ah i found the video

i am going to try to rewatch enough of it to see if the system worked or not

yeah he said it was triggering OCP and system worked after unplugging

[muted patio]

huh, the protections did their job then

[earnest olive]

perhaps the user thought that you could use that to control the fan curve of the power supply

[muted patio]

Fan Power!!

[earnest olive]

which now that i think about it would be an interesting feature

[muted patio]

MMOAAARRRR POWWEERRRR!

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[earnest olive]

but yeah modern parts are so user friendly

[muted patio]

Sometimes

[earnest olive]

you can make some pretty terrible mistakes and still have a working system

[muted patio]

That comment doesn't apply to RGb tho

[earnest olive]

HAH

that's true

[muted patio]

The amount of RGB/aRGb issues I have to sort

STANDARDIZE IT ALREADY

[earnest olive]

right???

proprietary connectors

i only buy stuff that has the standardized connectors

actively avoid any proprietary stuff

[muted patio]

of course

but people don't know the difference between RGB and aRGB

Plug 4 pins onto 3 pin headers

[wanton cliff]

Didn’t we just finish talking about 12 pins?

[muted patio]

it's a nightmare

[earnest olive]

well i was talking about rgb

[wanton cliff]

Oh lol

[muted patio]

Like, Corsair has proprietary RGB connectors for their hubs

[earnest olive]

i don't mind nvidia's 12 pin being a thing because

1. they provide a free braided adapter for it
2. it's better than the current standard

[wanton cliff]

Both true

12 pin needs to be a thing fast

[earnest olive]

there is no reason corsair needs to have their own rgb connectors

and you can be sure they are going to sell you the hub to use them

[muted patio]

Yup

[earnest olive]

the only thing i don't like about the current standard rgb connectors

which can be remedied without actually changing the pins

is that there's no retention mechanism like there is for fan headers

it's not a really big deal but it's annoying sometimes

[jovial berry]

Hi can someone please help me with updating my bios for ASRock B550m pro4? Cause when I tried to download the files this pops up

[earnest olive]

is it on the root directory of your usb drive?

(not in any folders)

is usb drive formatted to fat32? (this is the default format)

does asrock require you to rename the bios file to something specific?

[jovial berry]

yeah it is when i check the prop is said that its FAT32

[jovial berry]

I actually dont know if it does

[earnest olive]

did you make sure to unzip the downloaded zip?

usually you only need to rename the file if you are using hardware bios flashback button

but no need if updating from within the bios

also i haven't done an asrock build in a hot minute so i don't remember if they give you bios as a zip

but if they do you must unzip it

[jovial berry]

I don’t know if this helps?

[earnest olive]

wait you bought 1 stick of 16gb ram?

O_O

return it

get 2x8

[jovial berry]

Oh shoot really?!

[earnest olive]

you lose a massive amount of performance with single channel memory

and you don't really save any money doing so

[jovial berry]

I though that 16gb would be good 😖😖

[earnest olive]

16gb isn't the problem

you just need it in 2 sticks

[jovial berry]

So until then I can’t really do anything??

[earnest olive]

i mean it'll work you're just losing up to 80% gaming performance

personally observed about 40% less average fps but 1% lows were 80% lower

from using the same system in single channel 16gb vs dual channel 16gb

[jovial berry]

Can I just use this ram in the meantime to just boot my pc then maybe in a few days put in 2 sticks?

Or will it mess it up?

[pliant lake]

You can, no issues

[earnest olive]

it will work

it just won't perform well

there won't be any damage

[jovial berry]

Because my issue that the windows 10 is just won’t boot it just stays on this for a long time

[desert gulch]

ok

unplug mouse

[earnest olive]

no ryan

[desert gulch]

and keyboard

yes

[earnest olive]

it's a 5600x in a b550 board

[desert gulch]

oh

[earnest olive]

it's just not supported out of the box

need bios update

[desert gulch]

ok

[earnest olive]

the issue is that their bios update was not working

[desert gulch]

ahh i didnt see that lol

[hollow grail]

lul

[desert gulch]

they have bios flashback right?

[jovial berry]

Yeah but then it just says this

[earnest olive]

you answered 1 out of my 4 questions so

did you unzip the file?

https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS11

this is asrock's official guide

[jovial berry]

No I don’t think I did that or I think I did it wrong?

[earnest olive]

you need to unzip the file after downloading it

[desert gulch]

you need to unzip it i think

otherwise it wont detect it

[earnest olive]

it is the first step on the guide

[desert gulch]

i use winrar to unzip stuff

does windows have a way to unzip built in?

[earnest olive]

windows is able to unzip .zip files (as long as they're not password protected)

[potent portal]

I looked at the CPU compatibility and the 5600X is supported after version 1.20 and he has 1.10 so yes BIOS update required, latest is 1.70

Right click>extract files

[desert gulch]

yeah so all they need to do it plug it into the working pc and unzip

[jovial berry]

This shows up...

[earnest olive]

just close it

and extract that file

[potent portal]

eww winrar

[desert gulch]

i usually just drag that file in there back to the usb drive

can be quicker sometimes

[potent portal]

just use 7zip, it's free and more compatible...

[desert gulch]

both work for this still

[jovial berry]

It’s the first one right?

[desert gulch]

yeah

looks like it

doesnt hurt to try it

so throw that first file on usb drive

[earnest olive]

you need to pull the file out of the folder and onto the usb

don't do the folder

file only

[jovial berry]

It’s the one that looks like a stack of books?

[desert gulch]

no

thats the zipped file

open that first folder

and take the file out of it

and put that file on usb drive

[jovial berry]

Ooh this one

[potent portal]

yep

[earnest olive]

yes

now drag it to the usb

don't put it in a folder

just on the usb root

[jovial berry]

okay did it then after?

[earnest olive]

then try to bios update again

should detect it now

[jovial berry]

Omg it did detect it

[earnest olive]

yeah now just click update and don't touch it until it's finished

then you're good to go

[jovial berry]

Okay then after it should get the windows 10 right?

[desert gulch]

you have windows 10 installed?

or on a drive to boot off?

[jovial berry]

No I have to re-download the Windows 10 software

To the usb

[desert gulch]

ahh

so yeah do that then boot off that windows usb

then youll follow what the installtion is

[jovial berry]

Ahh okay I think I got it

Thank you guys so much!! @earnest olive @potent portal @desert gulch

You guys helped me out so much💕

[desert gulch]

np id-cooling man did most of the work lol

[earnest olive]

[potent portal]

Now it's time to update my BIOS for similar reasons 😁

[jovial berry]

The biggest mood

[vital rover]

Lol my computer says “Activate Windows” constantly in the bottom right of my main monitor, nothing can cover it of course

[lyric thistle]

Rip

There's a way to disable it in cmd or something

Or just buy a cheap eBay key to pray away the activation message

[bitter sapphire]

Not sure if I should post this here or not, I’m new to building and this will be my first built pc, I’ve been on a prebuilt for 6 years now. But is this a decent build? Any parts I should swap to save money or better for cheaper? I’m not entirely sure what I’m looking at but I have done minimal research when I’ve found the time.... be gentle. (I know this isn’t the best way to post the build It’s just easiest with what I got while at work(some stuff is purely for the rgb effect. I’m building two of the final build for a friend and myself))

[lyric thistle]

Lots of things wrong with it :)

[fossil halo]

10600k <<<< 10400f for price to performance

[bitter sapphire]

Greaaaat! Any helpful hints to point me in the right direction?

[fossil halo]

Nah bot really

We can help u here

Well I can't really bc I gotta sleep

[lyric thistle]

Storage, gpu are my points of interest in this case

[fossil halo]

Anyone whose name is yellow should be able to help reliably

Gpu is v v v v v v v underpowered if plan to be a gamer

And with that I head out

[lyric thistle]

The 1050Ti isn't worth 290

[fossil halo]

U can get a used 1070ti for that

[lyric thistle]

I would buy a 1050Ti for 130 max

[fossil halo]

Yea what he said

Screw sleeping ill sleep in a bit

[lyric thistle]

Xd

[fossil halo]

Time to help thid man he is in need

[lyric thistle]

Storage, I would suggest an NVMe drive; Team MP34, WD SN750, Samsung 970 Evo

Prices for good SATA drives and good NVMe drives are pretty close, and when you have access to NVMe tech, fill that NVMe slot before getting to the SATA drives, NVMe is a much faster storage controller

I think the SeaSonic PSU is a good choice from what I remember?

[fossil halo]

Yea Satan drives a bit lame

[lyric thistle]

And if you don't need all the extra features and luxuries of a Z490 board, you can go with a good B460 board

[fossil halo]

Ywa

Bc really with intel there's no point in getting a really good motherboard with a ok cpu

[lyric thistle]

Don't get me wrong I love good SATA drives, it just doesn't make sense to go straight for SATA when you have access to NVMe

[fossil halo]

Bx they change the socket every generation

Then with a b460

Get like 3000 or 320mhz ram

Nvm 2666 mhz

Or get a h410

[lyric thistle]

I would get G.Skill Aegis 3200 or something similar, cheap :) tho I haven't looked at the prices in a while, might be a different story

[fossil halo]

Yea

[desert gulch]

Also that cpu cooler is way overkill

[bitter sapphire]

i know the CPU cooler is way overkill, its strictly for the other person. But im gonna do my best to make a few changes, my main goal is to be able to game. sorry it took so long, work.

[bitter sapphire]

do i need to change the 10600k to 10400f? If im trying to game should i change from the intel and get something completely different?

[sharp osprey]

anyone know how to setup msi afterburner

wait I cant even download after burner wtf

[worn wave]

5000 USD?

What will you be using it for?

[still roost]

MMA#6263 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Whats a good mobo for i3 10100f

[worn wave]

?

[uncut pelican]

What

[wanton cliff]

English only server

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzjwK3

Anyways I went under budget @feral locust

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff I'd go for a higher placeholder price for 3090, and I'd prob change the PSU to an AXi or RMi

[wanton cliff]

One sec

[stoic island]

also, need a priceholder price for 5900x

[wanton cliff]

Wdym by higher placebo?

[stoic island]

Tariffs

[wanton cliff]

Oh yeah

[stoic island]

so I would assume it'll be closer to 2000$

[wanton cliff]

I’ll just bump it up to 2K

5900x MSRP?

[stoic island]

550$

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3wFQxc

$37 overbudget then

[stoic island]

My edit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RyR24d

that PSU is annoying to me :P

[wanton cliff]

Yeah I forgot to change PSU

[stoic island]

I also changed mobo and ssd

[wanton cliff]

That list is a skew of a list I made way before I knew that much about computers

[stoic island]

tomahawk wifi is a great x570 board, and P31 is a really good SSD that'll be basically the best PCIe 3.0 SSD other than 970 pro, which is basically twice it's price

[wanton cliff]

Alright cool

Like I said, that list is a skew of a list I made before I knew as much about computers as I do now

Also before tariffs and all that

[stoic island]

is ok

[blazing aurora]

does western digital not make 7200rpm hdds?

i would've put one in there

[worn wave]

They do, WD black

[potent portal]

Blue drives come in 7200 also, and black has 10k too

There's even green drives that are 7200, and red and purple for enterprise

[wanton cliff]

Green not made anymore

Cause green = suck

[worn wave]

The only WD Blue that is 7200rpm is the 1tb model?

[potent portal]

I think so, and smaller sizes

If you need more go black

And green drives are still being sold but yeah the aggressive power saving kinda sucks

[brittle tinsel]

Will ddr4 boards run ddr3 ram or only ddr4?

[stoic island]

only ddr4

[brittle tinsel]

Damn

[stoic island]

the slot itself is different

[brittle tinsel]

Ah ok

[stoic island]

notch and pin count and location

[brittle tinsel]

Man it sucks so bad when you fry a cpu and need to swap out your board, everything is so expensive right now

[stoic island]

sadly

[broken anvil]

I got bored and build a pc on newegg if anyone wants the list

tho you might need to change out the gpus

they are dual 1030s

[sinful moon]

Yo I need some

Some help

[brittle tinsel]

What’s up

[sinful moon]

With x570 gaming edge WiFi mobO

[stoic island]

Fun

[sinful moon]

I have a few questions

[brittle tinsel]

Ask away

[stoic island]

VRMs are supposed to be toasty

[sinful moon]

I put together a pc yesterday with amd r5 1600 x570 gaming edge WiFi, 580xfx , thermal take 600watt power supply

When I benched it

The power supply never turned on

I check all the connections

The 8 pin for cpu 20 pin for mobo

8 pin for gpu

Never turned on

When I used a power supply tester

The test came out perfect

Any idea what could be wrong

[brittle tinsel]

The power supply never turned on but you were able to bench it?

Maybe someone else will understand enough to help

[stoic island]

I think they meant put on a bench

@sinful moon what about 8 pin eps for cpu

[sinful moon]

Yeah like without the case

Eps?

[stoic island]

It's just what it's called for whatever reason, but it's CPU power

[sinful moon]

Yeah so the motherboard has a 8 pin connector and a extra 4 pin for over clocking and stuff according the Manuel I used the 8 pin

[stoic island]

Yes

[sinful moon]

I ma try again later today with a new mobo and a cpu

[stoic island]

Alright, what about jumping the board

without using power button

[sinful moon]

I am on a assumption that mobo is dead

Yes I though of that too

But I ran out of time yesterday

[stoic island]

try that in case it's just power button is broken or not plugged in correctly

[sinful moon]

👌

Srry I am kinda new to building computer and in school rn

[stoic island]

It's okay

[brittle tinsel]

With out freaking out over the cooler and stuff, what is your straight up opinion on this build, I don’t need a gpu better than this because I don’t do high gpu intensive things

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=ttfmD3

[stoic island]

sn550 2tb...

case is meh

[brittle tinsel]

It was like half the price of Samsung

[small osprey]

^

that ssd sucks

[stoic island]

But like

Helix L

Sabrent rocket Q

meh

[blazing aurora]

64gb of ram is unnecessary

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know those brands

[stoic island]

uh

[blazing aurora]

32gb is already overkill

for general use, at least

[brittle tinsel]

I need the 64gb trust me

The 16 gb on my old rig was always the hold back

[blazing aurora]

32gb should be good

[brittle tinsel]

I also host peer to peer games with my brothers while streaming and have ram into issues with ram there as well

Some games I’ve hosted I’ve found using up to 4 gb ram per additional player so another reason for 64gb

@stoic island better? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/ttfmD3

[stoic island]

cooler still bothers me

[brittle tinsel]

The AIO?

[rich helm]

Yes

It’s very overpriced

[brittle tinsel]

What’s so bad about it? My best friend uses it and never has an issue with temps

[stoic island]

Performance doesn't match the scaling in price

[rich helm]

Literally costs a lot more because it has a screen

[brittle tinsel]

I know I’m paying an addition $100 just for the lcd display but I’m ok with that

[rich helm]

Well I guess

[brittle tinsel]

But when people react negative about it I assume it’s a PoS

[rich helm]

The case is really interesting

Not in a good way

[brittle tinsel]

But if it will work and keep temps down I’m happy

[rich helm]

You could do a 4000d Corsair case for a bit more

[brittle tinsel]

Any case recommendations for around $100 or less? That was on there because I was originally going with an eatx board before deciding I don’t have a need at all and won’t in a million years for a $700 motherboard

4000d? Alright,

[stoic island]

TD500 mesh, P500a, P400a

Lancool ii mesh

[rich helm]

The 220t rgb is 105

[brittle tinsel]

What is going to yield a good airflow for front panel fans and top mounted radiator?

Let me boot my brothers pc so I can search the cases faster and easier

[rich helm]

I don’t know about the other cases but the 220t rgb doesn’t support a 360 mm rad on top

[stoic island]

TD500 mesh and P500a both support 360mm top

[brittle tinsel]

Ok, i probably won’t go 220t anyway because I’m avoiding rgb

[small osprey]

what about 4000d airflow

that only supports 280mm rad top tho

[rich helm]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

Damn I was looking into that one too

[rich helm]

I was gonna say that

P500a looks good if you don’t want rgb

[brittle tinsel]

Will most mid towers fit up to a 3090
Say I ever took that path? Just want to have options this is will be my third pc and every time something goes wrong or it’s time for an upgrade I gotta get a new case and it sucks

[worn wave]

Depends on the mid tower

Some mid towers are larger than others

[brittle tinsel]

Would a full tower handle anything then?

I just want to better invest in an upgradable path one reason I am finally swapping to amd

[potent portal]

The FE 3090 is 313 mm long, get a case that says it supports that or larger GPU

[brittle tinsel]

Alright

[potent portal]

For an idea, the meshify C says it supports 315 mm so it would be a bit tight with that card

The meshify 2 would have tons of room though, 467 mm

Something that's designed for custom loop liquid cooling would have the most room

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel most mid towers will fit large cards

full towers usually just extend upwards to fit E-ATX

[brittle tinsel]

thoughts on this case actually? This is the one my old system was in, I still have it actually.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zFn8TW/deepcool-matrexx-55-v3-atx-mid-tower-case-dp-atx-matrexx55v3

eh, it only supports 360 rad in the front and I heard that was bad because air bubbles would trap in vertical mounted rads and cause alot of noise

[worn wave]

Crappy budget case

[brittle tinsel]

and be bad for long living

[potent portal]

Is that solid glass on the front? No mesh? Terrible airflow

[rich helm]

@faint forum where did you get your custom 12 pin extension

[worn wave]

Get a Meshify 2 or a Define 7 or a p500a

[brittle tinsel]

those are all going a wee bit above budget, Im busting ass trying to come up with $2500 to build one, so the less I go over the better

there is about $120 left in budget currently

[potent portal]

A meshify C is usually under $100, and pretty well recommended here

[brittle tinsel]

the fractal case?

[worn wave]

If you have the money for 64GB of RAM, a Ryzen 9 you have enough money to spend 60$ more on a case

It should not be hard to save a little more

[potent portal]

Yeah, full name Fractal Design Meshify C, comes in a few varieties too

[wicked frigate]

Does anyone know if you can enter in the Newegg shuffle rn

And how

[brittle tinsel]

I dont have the money lol, Im just looking at about what I need to come up with, ive got a half hour before I head to work so i was just seeing how much I needed but was also trying to keep it around $2500, its hard to find jobs with covid

[potent portal]

Entry time hasn't started yet

[wicked frigate]

When is it

[worn wave]

Its worth it to save a little to get a better case

[wicked frigate]

Also

How can I do it form the app

@potent portal

[potent portal]

I don't think you can in the app but the page is mobile friendly
Usually late morning PST, so give it about 3-4 hours

[wicked frigate]

Like 11??

[muted patio]

10 AM PST

[potent portal]

You have until 2 to enter anyway, it's not first come first serve

[wicked frigate]

I got it

So you can’t do it form the app

[potent portal]

Not that I know of, but a mobile browser should be able to load the page just fine

[brittle tinsel]

alright then with that logic, what case do you recommend/use?

[wicked frigate]

K thx

[worn wave]

Define 7, Meshify 2, P500a

[wicked frigate]

Wait one more thing

Is it only on specific items

Like can I get an specific gpu

3080 something

[worn wave]

It will be listed

[potent portal]

You select which ones you want to be put in the drawing for. The stock varies each day. If something you want isn't available today, try again tomorrow.
I know they just did a bunch of 30 series GPUs yesterday

[wicked frigate]

Ok cause I want an specific 2080

3080

I meant

The ftw3

I think that’s what it is called

[verbal quarry]

thats a beautiful card

[wicked frigate]

Yah

Isn’t it like the best 3080

Or one of

[brittle tinsel]

is the shuffle a giveaway or drawing for the ability to purchase ?

[worn wave]

Its a reservation for you to buy it

[brittle tinsel]

ah

[wise sorrel]

It's not guaranteed though, it's a raffle for a spot

[brittle tinsel]

yeah

[potent portal]

Winners of the drawing are selected and notified around 3:30 PST, and it's automatically in your cart. You have a few hours to purchase it.

[wise sorrel]

I'm hoping there is a ryzen 9 5900x and a 3070 or 3080 vision oc... and that I get chosen today

[potent portal]

Good odds for the Ryzen 9 being in the list, it has been the last few times I looked

[wise sorrel]

My luck is there will be those items and I don't get chosen

The 9 5900x?

[potent portal]

Yeah and the 5950X

[wise sorrel]

Oh nice

[brittle tinsel]

alright thoughts on the build now? I have swapped out the case and M.2 drive

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/ttfmD3

[brittle tinsel]

does it have radiator support? their website says nothing about it

[pale gyro]

What's everyone's favorite thermal paste?

[worn wave]

What?

Your question has nothing to do with my statement?

[wise sorrel]

@brittle tinsel I like the build but I just learned last night that the 3900 is zen2 and the 5000 series is zen3. So it's newer updated material

[faint forum]

@rich helm I got it from CableMod. They just recently started making them!

[brittle tinsel]

I know

[wise sorrel]

I dint know how.big of a difference it makes but a few people told me go for the 5900

[brittle tinsel]

but like a 3900x is soooo much more powerful than the I5-3570 I fried

[muted patio]

15-20%

[rich helm]

Oh I looked at cable mod but it looked like for that single cable it was kinda pricey

[kind light]

I tried looking up parts and most of them were out of stock

[brittle tinsel]

so why spend the extra money for little persomance upgrade with zero astetics

plus 3900x is in stock near me if I come up with the money fast enough

[muted patio]

15-20% is little? That'st he 5900 vs 3900 lol

[faint forum]

It is a little expensive, but I figured I had already spent so much on my build that it was worth it. I wasn't a big fan of how it looked with the built in splitter cable that came with the 3090

[rich helm]

Trying to decide whether it’s worth it for a 3060ti or not lol

[brittle tinsel]

compared to the difference between a I5-3570 and 3900x yes, and besides Im alreeady $100 over budget

[rich helm]

You have 10 fans in your parts list

[brittle tinsel]

yeah it has support for 6 fans, and with my experience a few extra isnt a bad thing

[faint forum]

ooo I see. Yeah that is kind of a tough call. I just recently built this PC from the ground up, so I'm probably not going to build a new one for a while. So for me, the cost broken out over years made sense. It would definitely still look really good with a 3060Ti, especially with how bright the metal is with the FE version.

[muted patio]

Your build can be trimmed and economized quite a bit

[wise sorrel]

@brittle tinsel you're saying the the 9 3900 and 9 5900 aren't far apart?

[muted patio]

Phanteks Amp 750, $109 PSU. Better than EVGA. Kraken cooler, ditch that and get an EK 240mm or Arctic Freezer 240mm, another $150 less

[wise sorrel]

I'm asking out of curiosity

Cause I'll got with the 3900 if so lol

[brittle tinsel]

hate me if you want but i just cant see myself spending an additional $400 for such little difference,

[muted patio]

WHAT

5900x is $550

it's another $50

[brittle tinsel]

where?

[wise sorrel]

If you can find one

[brittle tinsel]

every where I have seen is based price of 800 and upto 1100

[muted patio]

it's not hard

[wise sorrel]

The 5950 is like 800 lol

[muted patio]

I didn't say 5950

[brittle tinsel]

r9 or r7???

[wise sorrel]

R9 5900

[brittle tinsel]

yeah

[muted patio]

There's a lot of fat in that build that can go away

I see at least $300 in savings

[brittle tinsel]

its like 750 on newegg

[wise sorrel]

Is I believe 550 I thought

Have to relook

[brittle tinsel]

well mircro center has them really cheap but I dont think micro center is in florida

[muted patio]

Phanteks AMP 750 PSU, $109, EK 240mm AIO, $120, Get the Phanteks P500A case, $100, there's another $80 saced

Ram is slow and a tad overpriced also

[brittle tinsel]

slow? the cpu only supports 3200, n?

[muted patio]

No

Ryzen 3000 series should be 3600 mhz ram

3600 C16

[brittle tinsel]

according to google and reddit 3900x can support upto 128gb of dual channel ram

and speeds of 3200

ddr4

[muted patio]

That's incorrect

[rich helm]

Cpu technically supports up to like 5000mzh

[wanton cliff]

The IMC is only rated for a certain speed but can actually go up much higher

Same with most boards

[wise sorrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vX7tRT

This is my current white build, pending on if I can find the parts.

[wanton cliff]

Idk if that cooler is good enough for a 5900x

It should be mostly fine