#building-and-recc-chat

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jagged ember
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or reduce x-ray energies, i think

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by reducing tube voltage

versed pine
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That worked @muted patio

jagged ember
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but then that still increases dosage...

versed pine
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Tysm <3

jagged ember
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idk, not yet a radiologist

muted patio
mild axle
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i may increse my ram from 8gb to 32gb

versed pine
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I was highkey stressing out the PC I'm building is for my cousin and her schoolwork

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Thanks a ton again

muted patio
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Welcome!

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EZ fix this time

mild axle
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what ram should i go for 32 gb?

muted patio
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motherboard and CPU?

mild axle
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well they are old:

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M5a78L -M Usb3

muted patio
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Like, DDR3 old?

mild axle
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ddr3 yes

muted patio
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Not worth investing into IMO

mild axle
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i suppose

muted patio
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I mean, a modern system with less ram will have more bandwidth, IE speed, than the DDR3

mild axle
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i just want capacity for simulating stuff

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it maxes out too often

muted patio
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Quantity isn't everything, it's also how fast stuff goes in and out

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IE, bandwidth

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Especially for simulations

half briar
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guys are we allowed to show pictures of shopping cart builds here, like if were going to buy them?

mild axle
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idk

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go for it

muted patio
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You can but you need to be Rank 3 to post pics

jagged ember
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unless you're here

mild axle
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so maybe what pc woul;d you reccomend to me?

muted patio
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What programs are you running?

mild axle
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a lot

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uhh let me make a list

muted patio
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Just the most demanding so I can check specs

mild axle
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minecraft(RTX), blender, Kdenlive(preferably 4k) And obs Studio with games(Including minecraft With RTX)

muted patio
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So, Blender and Kden are the most demanding

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What GPU do you have that does RTX?

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paired with a DDR3 cpu??

mild axle
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it currently does not have rtx on]#

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id lie it tho

worn wave
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What GPU you got tho?

mild axle
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1050 TI

muted patio
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Current CPU?

mild axle
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with an FX 8300

muted patio
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wow, OK then

mild axle
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it was the best 8 core system in 2017 without going over £800

muted patio
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Even an Intel 10400F will run circles around that

worn wave
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the FX cpus were not true 8 cores though

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that was the thing

mild axle
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IK

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i didnt pick the pc

muted patio
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What kind of budget we looking at?

mild axle
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my parents did

muted patio
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Just CPU/Motherboard/RAM for now?

mild axle
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maybe a PSU

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as well

muted patio
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Well

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Don't upgrade that until you get a new GPU

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In my opinion

mild axle
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oh GPU was niot on the list?

half briar
muted patio
worn wave
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The 680X is $260?

muted patio
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All out of stock

mild axle
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ye

half briar
muted patio
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IMO, the CPU/RAM/Motherboard upgrade will be HUGE

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even without a GPU

half briar
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there you guys go

small osprey
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expensive mobo

mild axle
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whats the total Price?

small osprey
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why do you need such high end stuff

muted patio
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The ram isn't expensive.

half briar
muted patio
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$100 for DDR4 3600 RGB?

worn wave
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Its not expensive just somewhat overpriced

mild axle
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oof

small osprey
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well kinda is for 3600 cl18

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but its alright

muted patio
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Not with new prices

worn wave
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Corsair RAM aint the best compared to Ballistix atleast for OC

small osprey
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mainly the case and mobo expensive

muted patio
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ballistix expansive now

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Just FYI

half briar
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I need to get a graphics card too but mostly out of stock

small osprey
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no?

worn wave
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Case is def overkill imo

small osprey
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16 gb ballastix 3600mhz cl16 is like $86

muted patio
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Was

worn wave
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is

muted patio
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Not RGB tho

small osprey
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it still is i think

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and the 3200mhz cl16 is like 72

fossil halo
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🧢

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send link

muted patio
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o wow, back instock

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$100

half briar
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why do you guys recommend because I need a mobo with wifi and nice case to fit everything in

muted patio
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Huh

half briar
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atx mid tower i perfer

muted patio
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P500A DRGB is $130

small osprey
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thats not in stock

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but

muted patio
mild axle
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just wait for stock

worn wave
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DS3H motherboards aint known to be great

muted patio
worn wave
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I would get a Phanteks AMP for a PSU

fossil halo
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yea

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with that high end of a processor

worn wave
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oh god thats a 5900X yeah for sure dont pair it with a DS3H

fossil halo
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you want a far better motherboard

muted patio
mild axle
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ok

muted patio
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Need a good airflow case

fossil halo
mild axle
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ill put the link and you can share what you think

fossil halo
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like this video

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explains how a motherboard can bottleneck ur cpu

worn wave
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P500A, P400A, Meshify C, Lancool II Mesh, 220T all good cases

small osprey
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case, td500mesh or p400a, motherboard, rog strix b550-f gaming

fossil halo
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essentailly the power delivery and the vrms are just bad

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so then after like jsut a small bit of gaming

small osprey
mild axle
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i could go with a b400 Mobo now

fossil halo
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the cpu starts thermal throttling

worn wave
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the airflow version is decent

fossil halo
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no

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go with x570

small osprey
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why x570

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b550 is more than enough

worn wave
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There are for sure better cases than the 220T Airflow but cheap for decent airflow and RGB

fossil halo
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x570 is better bet if ur using the r9 5900x

balmy patio
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it doesn't make a big difference, what you have to look for is how the motherboard is made and what kinda power delivery it offers

half briar
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corsair cases are nice because, they have a seprate part of the case for wires and stuff, but also lots of air

balmy patio
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the chipset doesn't matter in that case

half briar
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like the crystal series case I wanted to get

worn wave
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A high end B550 board most likely will be just as great as a X570 in terms in VRMs

balmy patio
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^

fossil halo
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true

half briar
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I hate the all the gpus are sold out :/

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well all the good ones

small osprey
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yea so i would recommend asus rog strix b550-f gaming

fossil halo
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get one of those asus tuf prime ones

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oh yea

small osprey
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has flashback too for zen 3

fossil halo
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anything asus tuf or rog

small osprey
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dont think the tuf ones have flashback

fossil halo
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really?

balmy patio
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the aorus pro is also a great option imo

fossil halo
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lemme see

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ew gigabyte

balmy patio
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smh

small osprey
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aorus is good

balmy patio
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they make good motherboards

mild axle
small osprey
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a lot of people dont like asrock

half briar
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I wanted to make a all white build but meh

small osprey
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but taichi looks so fricking good

half briar
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idk

fossil halo
balmy patio
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go vision d or taichi for white mobo

fossil halo
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has flashback

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OOOOO taichi

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that thing is HOT

balmy patio
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perhaps the white rog one

worn wave
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I don't personally like ASRock that much but their server boards are great and they do have a few nice boards

small osprey
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taichi is hot

worn wave
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B450 Pro4 was a great budget board before B550

small osprey
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i wouldnt recommend using b450/x470 for zen 3

balmy patio
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the b550m pro 4 is still a great budget board.. when the price for it drops back down

worn wave
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Oh i know, im just saying before B550 came out

small osprey
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unless you already have the board

mild axle
mental steeple
balmy patio
mild axle
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£1200

muted patio
mental steeple
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buy corsair txm since you're in the uk andl ol txm

mental steeple
mild axle
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ok

mild axle
muted patio
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We need to change that motherboard also because no Flashback for 5000 series BIOS. Any reason you're stuck on MATX? just cost?

mild axle
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ye

muted patio
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K

mild axle
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but i also realised i could bring it on holiday with me

half briar
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Idk if I should go with this one

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for mobo

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or

muted patio
half briar
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that one

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I want to do a nice clean all white build that why

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with rgb's

mild axle
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I also donr care about watercooling and RGB

balmy patio
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ight

small osprey
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then change the ram

half briar
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I was talking about me

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lol

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oh my bad

muted patio
balmy patio
half briar
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what mobo should I get guys?

balmy patio
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for what cpu?

half briar
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i7 I posted at the top

worn wave
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10700f

muted patio
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Yeesh, that CPU is half your buddet

balmy patio
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@mild axle how much storage would you like to start off with?

half briar
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$1,500 is my budget

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so I trying to stay under it

mild axle
balmy patio
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ight

stoic island
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Gentlemen, 3070 and 3080 FE at MSRP at best buy if y'all are still looking

half briar
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😮

balmy patio
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😳

half briar
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I don't think I gonna have enough in a couple months for a 3070 or 3080

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because I planning now before I buy

muted patio
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Best buy Tuesday drop again!

stoic island
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It's crazy because it's the pre-tariff msrp

small osprey
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fe is gud

half briar
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I hope in april they'll have more graphics cards in stock in places

mild axle
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so anyone got a systme?

muted patio
small osprey
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^

balmy patio
mild axle
balmy patio
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i see

half briar
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for mine I want to game, do art and stream

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but I don't think I gonna have enough for everything

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so, I think I have to pick one or two things to do with it

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mostly game and art for now

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I think

mild axle
# balmy patio i see

i also dont care about OS i can use linux if none is selected (Its free 🙂 )

balmy patio
mild axle
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£1200

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it is

balmy patio
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ight

mild axle
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$1,654 USD

mild axle
stoic island
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@muted patio yea, I'm really surprised it was actually true that they're exempt

mild axle
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@balmy patio How are you getting along

half briar
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I think this looks good

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I got the other parts

balmy patio
mild axle
balmy patio
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yeah

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i'm also gonna check if it's cheaper going amd and with a less chonkier cooler

mild axle
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ye

mild axle
half briar
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oh my bad

mild axle
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and also what is the CL number on ram mean

fair birch
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it has to do with the latency

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basically lower is better

half briar
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I trying pc part picker it be better

mild axle
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ah ok

fair birch
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if you have ryzen i suggest 3600 cl16

balmy patio
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yeah, cas latency, basically how many times the ram has to clock to complete a request

mild axle
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ah i see

balmy patio
mild axle
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lemme se what i can make?

muted patio
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Little over budget but if you can find free shipping or sales it will bring it down

balmy patio
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i forgot to put a psu 😳

muted patio
balmy patio
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: (

mild axle
muted patio
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I did 🙂

balmy patio
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same

balmy patio
mental steeple
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makes no sense outside of niches

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what are they using the system for

balmy patio
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he said that he was going to do video editing, blender, and other stuff, so i figured that more cores would help

wicked frigate
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Does anyone know is 5900x can support 3600 ram speed

balmy patio
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wanted to go intel but it didn't fit in the budget

wicked frigate
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Will anything happen if I do

balmy patio
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it can

mental steeple
muted patio
mental steeple
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yep, processors can handle memory well above their supported max speed.

fair birch
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yeah

wicked frigate
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Ok thx is crucial a good brand

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Cause I al ready bought it

fair birch
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yeah

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx guys

mental steeple
wicked frigate
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Oh btw the 5600x are frequently in stock rn

fossil halo
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small ass bb drop

wicked frigate
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Why not the 5900x

mental steeple
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@balmy patio whos the list for

balmy patio
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@mild axle

mental steeple
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@mild axle what resolution are you editing and rendering in

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and how heavy is your rendering workload

balmy patio
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the budget is 1200 pounds

muted patio
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I mean, you really only need Ballistix and B die if you want to overclock ram. If all you're doing is DOCP/XMP, just get ram that's rated for the speed and timings you want

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All this hype about E die and B die is really just hype, unless you're overclocking your ram

balmy patio
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^

muted patio
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Silicon Power, Oloy, all of em at the rated timings are fine. I don't know about their customer service and return policies but it works

mental steeple
mild axle
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?

mental steeple
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universe

mild axle
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ye

mental steeple
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answer my questions

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thanks

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🕺

mild axle
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i just went to the toildet

balmy patio
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smh

mild axle
muted patio
mild axle
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thanks

mental steeple
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look for 3060ti near msrp 💃

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⭐ look for 3060ti near msrp ⭐

mild axle
mental steeple
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but like

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you know whatever

balmy patio
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ye, if you can find a 3070 at that price, snag it

mental steeple
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l
ol good luck finding one at msrp ⭐

mild axle
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ye

wicked frigate
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Guys what’s a really good mobo brand

mild axle
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Shame its $499.99 on Best buy

balmy patio
wicked frigate
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Anyone???

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So Mai

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Msi

balmy patio
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every mobo manufacturer has their own nice features on their motherboards

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and no, i just named all the motherboard manufacturers i know of

wicked frigate
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Ok

balmy patio
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what were you looking for in the motherboard?

wicked frigate
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What a really good asus one

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Umm

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Bios flashback

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Usb

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Good heat sinks

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Rgb

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Pcie gen 4

balmy patio
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what cpu?

wicked frigate
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I think that it

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5900x

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Am4

mild axle
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budget?

wicked frigate
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For

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I want an high end one

mild axle
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like how much pricewise

wicked frigate
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Umm 200+

balmy patio
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the vision d is a nice mobo at that price point, lemme check for others

wicked frigate
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I want black

mental steeple
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variance is modeto model

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stop buying by brand

wicked frigate
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What model????

mental steeple
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go buy an aorus b550 pro

wicked frigate
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Like x570

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??

mental steeple
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don't buy x570

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it's a niche

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generally paying more for the same componentry you'd get with a cheaper b550 board

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no reason outside of a few people who can actually use more pcie lanes

balmy patio
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^

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx

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Also

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Is there an app where I can see my build

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And how it would look

mental steeple
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your inner mind sanctum

balmy patio
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tbh, the only black mobos with rgb i found are the b550 tomahawk, b550-f gaming, and the b550 gaming edge

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if rgb weren't a factor, i'd go aorus pro or similar

wicked frigate
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Anyone know

balmy patio
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no, but i do know that there's a vr game in which you essentially build a pc

wicked frigate
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Ok

balmy patio
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or you can go on pcpp's builds on a part and see if anything is similar to what you plan on building

wicked frigate
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Ok thx

mild axle
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ye im still working on an upgrade for my pc

wise sorrel
balmy patio
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looks like a very high end build

mild axle
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maybe go for a similar priced ryzen 5000 CPU (if ou can find one)

balmy patio
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you can also do better at that price point if you're willing to downgrade some stuff you won't really need (depending on what you're doing)

wise sorrel
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Gaming / video editing

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I'm building for the future

sharp blade
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you don't need 64gb ram

balmy patio
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ah i see

sharp blade
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32gb is plenty

balmy patio
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^

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and idk if you're really going to need that expensive x570 board

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go tuf x570-plus if you want x570 and not break the bank

wise sorrel
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Whats the difference in the 2? And I like the cpu so I want something to pull the fullest out of it

sharp blade
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i would go 32gb ram and a ryzen r9 5900x

wise sorrel
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The 5900 is more expensive.

balmy patio
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you're not going to pull the fullest of it with the stock cooler

sharp blade
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like 100$

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more

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But its much better

wise sorrel
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I'll be updating to liquid cooling soon.

muted patio
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5900 doesn't have a cooler

sharp blade
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^

wise sorrel
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The 3900 does

muted patio
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Not stock

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Owait

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Yeah, the Prism

balmy patio
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ye

muted patio
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Definitely upgrade from that

sharp blade
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and i would go for b550 when i buy a pcie 3.0 m2

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if not pcie 4

muted patio
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Keep i mind also that the TDP rating for processors is only for the base clock

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My little 65W TDP processor pulls 120W lol

mental steeple
wise sorrel
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So you're saying to do the 9 5900

mental steeple
mental steeple
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wake me up when pcie gen 4 ssds are actually relevant though

wise sorrel
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Gaming/video editing

muted patio
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That case is really nice though

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Keep it

sharp blade
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yeah i know but like not all

mental steeple
wise sorrel
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So you're saying downgrade the motherboard?

mental steeple
sharp blade
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sry i mean not all slots are pcie 4

mental steeple
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and what software

wise sorrel
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Don't know 100 percent yet.

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I'm new to this so still a learning curve.

mental steeple
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5900x is the kind of processor you buy because you're being paid to edit video

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or you are doing it for a livelyhood

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or i suppose if what you're editing even at a hobbyist level is high resolution or intense

sharp blade
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if im doing like a film i would go threadripper : )

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64cores

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And if i don't have a budget

wise sorrel
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Nah I have a budget lol

mental steeple
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64 cores for video editing

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adobe premier doesn't even properly scale beyond 32 cores

sharp blade
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but still xD

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"OVERKILL"

wise sorrel
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So drop the ram?

sharp blade
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wait i make a list then someone look at it for corrections

mental steeple
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yet you are sort of going all out

sharp blade
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do you need rgb?

wise sorrel
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I like it.

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@mental steeple I want something that's going to last me for a long while.

mental steeple
# wise sorrel I like it.

if you are just going to be doing amateur video editing at like 1080p-1440p resolution a 6 core part like a 5600x will fit your needs

sharp blade
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Aio or air cooler?

mental steeple
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futureproofing is a poor strategy, parts in the same generation become obsolete simultaniously

wise sorrel
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I'll be doing hardcore gaming also

mental steeple
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and components are as good as long as you are happy with them

wise sorrel
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And yeah I know sadly.

mental steeple
wise sorrel
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So back to the drawing board....

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Lol

mental steeple
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making you a list

wise sorrel
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Is it an issue to keep the Mob that can handle the better cpu for when that does become a thing?

sharp blade
mental steeple
mental steeple
little osprey
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I never feel content with pc tbh

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I guess its the fact you can never stop ugrading

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up*

sharp blade
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i just changed a few things

mental steeple
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unless you know what you're going to be doing is more intense video editing, stick with the 5600x

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and if you're stepping up for editing, you'd be better off stepping up to the i9 10850k, since it's only $100 more over the 5600x for 4 more cores. and generally sits cheaper than the 5800x

sharp blade
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I just hate intel cuz they change to socket like everytime

muted patio
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AM4 is end of the road for AMD though too

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AM5 next

worn wave
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11th gen will be on LGA1200 then 12th gen will be on LGA1700 but yeah AM4 is almost done with

sharp blade
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yeah i know but still less than intel

wise sorrel
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I already bought the case too

mental steeple
mental steeple
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they are both heartless corporations

wise sorrel
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I guess I have some more research to do later.

worn wave
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DDR5 is pretty close and both AMD and Intel's sockets are gonna be done with, so your gonna have to upgrade motherboards soon anyways

sharp blade
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like for upgrades? don't wanna change the motherboard everytime

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Thats what i like about ryzen

worn wave
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Well next gen you will have to if you want to upgrade to next gen.

sharp blade
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Was planning it anyway

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Hope there're good boards for am5

wise sorrel
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How close is am5?

worn wave
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AMD said AM4 will last until 2020

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Which could mean Ryzen 5000 will be on AM5

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We will just have to wait and see

wise sorrel
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How does the blue tooth connection ordeal work on motherboards.

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I plan on gaming with an Xbox controller

worn wave
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Wdym?

muted patio
wise sorrel
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My current t builds Mob has "Bluetooth" for it. For other boards will I need an adapter?

worn wave
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You need to get a board that has WiFi

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They should come with bluetooth also

wise sorrel
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This is my current build

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But I was told it was a bit overkill lol

worn wave
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What are you using it for

wise sorrel
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So im looking on switching things out. I'm definitely a newb to this

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Gaming/streaming/video editing

fair birch
wise sorrel
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Oh I like it @fair birch lol but I don't want to go voer board if it's not going to be beneficial haha

fair birch
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wait you havent built it yet?

wise sorrel
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No

fair birch
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oh

wise sorrel
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In the process

fair birch
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did you buy thge mobo already?

wise sorrel
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I have not

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Just the case as it was in on sale at the time I got it.

fair birch
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ok if youre not overclocking its completely overkill

desert gulch
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Never piece buy your parts

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You need to buy all at once

fair birch
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nmot rlly

worn wave
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Not necessarily

desert gulch
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Cause what if one was doa and you didn't find out until after 30 days?

fair birch
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?

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ohh

wise sorrel
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I'm buying them all at once

worn wave
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Some people if they are building a budget computer especially if you are younger it might be easier for people to buy part by part

desert gulch
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Ok

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But zag that's a rly bad idea

fair birch
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not rlly

worn wave
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Not always

fair birch
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as long as you keep them in the box

desert gulch
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Cause if gpu didn't work but you couldn't test it... And you get out of warranty

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Doesn't matter

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30 days is 30 days

fair birch
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warranty usually lasts longer than 30 days

wise sorrel
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Again I'm new to this so taking all advice and opinions lol

desert gulch
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Lol

worn wave
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Most manufacturers have warranties longer than 30 days

desert gulch
#

Not all

fair birch
#

yeah

wise sorrel
#

Most of it has a 1 year

worn wave
#

Your thinking of amazon returns

fair birch
#

you have to make sure

severe axle
desert gulch
#

Yeah but what if it was

#

There's always a chance

fair birch
#

ok then the warranty

severe axle
#

doesn't mean you should just not buy a card because its finally in stock for 2 mins

worn wave
#

Most manufacturers have warranties longer than 30 days, your most likely thinking of amazon returns.

desert gulch
#

Yes I say buy the card first

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As the card is hardest to get

#

Then pull trigger after that

fair birch
#

what about the other stuff

#

if theyre also not in stock

desert gulch
#

Cause if you buy everything easy except card, it could be months before you get the card

fair birch
#

true

mild axle
#

how do you set ur username to have ur rig info?

desert gulch
#

Change your nickname

mild axle
#

How?

desert gulch
#

There's no like automatic way for it to detect it and put it in your nickname

#

Uhhh

#

You on phone?

mild axle
#

no but i can be

desert gulch
#

Don't have to be

#

Click on the three dots on neweggs server thing

sullen spoke
#

click near the server name there should be a dropdown

desert gulch
#

Yeah

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Then click change nickname

fossil halo
#

ah yes

desert gulch
#

Then put in your stuff

mild axle
#

like this?

urban totem
#

Recommendations?

fossil halo
#

ooooo

#

u see

#

the thing is

#

with gigabyte power supplies

#

they tend to

urban totem
#

It came with the 3070

#

Sadly

#

Newegg hurts

worn wave
#

Phanteks AMP

fossil halo
#

dont use it

#

sell it

#

get a proper power supply

#

^^^^^^^^^

muted patio
#

Yes

#

Don't use that PSU

fossil halo
#

gigabyte psu is f tier

#

wait no

#

i shouldn't have even replied to that

#

@wanton cliff whats good with that spreadsheet

balmy patio
#

she prolly forgot bruh

#

it's fine tbh

rich void
fossil halo
#

lmao yea

stoic island
#

:P-GMgoBOOM: when?

mild axle
#

i kinda with there was a rating on how long the average PSU would last fort

stoic island
#

I mean, it'd never be useful

mild axle
#

why

stoic island
#

model to model variance

mild axle
#

or say the minimum one has lated under constant use

stoic island
#

So you think your PSU can last 10 years, so you shut it in a box and don't look at it, even though your particular unit might've had some minor defect that'll kill it after a few years

#

That kinda thing

#

@mild axle Generally, if you want a sense of how long the Manufacturer (major manufacturers) think it'll do, take a look at the warranty length

muted patio
#

Also, caps degrade over time as does the power output as the caps dry up with age

sick heart
#

most psus i think last a long time to the point youd probably need to or want to upgrade by then

mild axle
#

ye

#

ive had my system for 3 year

stoic island
#

I mean, there was a guy with a Corsair TX from like 8 years ago, and was using it for an upgraded system around here a bit back

mild axle
#

nah my full system

muted patio
#

I mean

stoic island
#

Good PSUs are good

muted patio
#

My TT was in my system for 7 years lol

stoic island
#

They can usually last you a decade

#

smart?

rich void
#

Yeah, the longer the warranty the more confidence the manufacturer has in their product. They can be wrong ofc, but if someone puts a 1 year warranty on a psu run away

muted patio
#

TR2

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700W

stoic island
#

Bronze?

muted patio
#

IDK, lemme check

stoic island
#

TR2 gold was pretty decently good

#

TR2 Bronze looks to be like BR/S12iii level

muted patio
#

Doesn't say bronze or gold lol

#

TR2-700AL2NC-A

#

old

stoic island
#

does that say 75% efficiency......?

mild axle
#

i literally have a cousin who is younger than my cpu

muted patio
#

IDK, efficiency isn't listed on the PSU LOL

stoic island
#

I looked it up

#

Office depot came up

muted patio
#

It's from 2012 or earlier lol

stoic island
mild axle
#

whats the most value PC Today?

#

on newegg

muted patio
#

It's an old FSP unit

stoic island
#

Heh, that shouldn't be the 80+ Bronze unit listed on the PSU tier list then

muted patio
#

it's not on the list, it's from 2012 lol

stoic island
#

I'm a lazy guy and list usually has everything :P

#

@muted patio I mean, list does have the Corsair TX from like 2011

muted patio
#

True

fossil halo
#

s12iii is bad

stoic island
#

Yes it is

#

Tier D bois

wise sorrel
#

Wouldn't an 850 Plat be a better psu option?

muted patio
#

For a 3070?

#

or 3080?

#

overkill for either one TBH

stoic island
#

@wise sorrel a reminder, efficiency rating doesn't tell you anything about quality

fossil halo
#

yes

stoic island
#

Like for example, Ion+ is a plat certified unit, but the quality is meh, I'd only group it in with the rest of the good gold units

#

Not the px/p2/axi kinda tier

wise sorrel
#

So a gold is more than efficient

muted patio
#

Supposedly more efficient

#

The actual savings you get are pennies per year bronze vs gold

#

It's more marketing than anything else

wicked frigate
#

Hey guys just wondering can I start an pc without gpu to see if everything work

muted patio
#

Not without onboard video

wicked frigate
#

What onboard video

muted patio
#

ON the CPU

#

Won't POST without some sort of video out

wicked frigate
#

Does 5900x have that

muted patio
#

no

wicked frigate
#

Dang

#

Wait than

#

Is there a way I can check if all my parts work

muted patio
#

Not without a GPU of some sort

wicked frigate
#

Ok

muted patio
#

No way to know if it POSTS without a GPU

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx

muted patio
#

most you can do is see if fans spin and RGB lights. maybe.

mild axle
#

Hello There

uncut pelican
#

Sup

#

Ugh I have to go back to class

halcyon summit
#

Can someone send me a good $1800-$2000 pc build USD?

desert gulch
#

I'd wait

uncut pelican
desert gulch
#

But prolly like a 5800x and 3080

uncut pelican
#

Gon have to wait on gpu and cpu tho

desert gulch
#

Yeah

long viper
#

is there a chat for something like checking if pc specs work out?

uncut pelican
#

Right here

long viper
#

oh

#

could you check these specs out? im kinda new to the building scene and i dont want to mess up these parts

uncut pelican
#

What are the specs ya talking abt?

long viper
#

CPU - AMD Ryzen 9 3900x - $499.00
MOBO - ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) - $359.99
CPU Cooling - Corsair H115i RGB Platinum - $135.99
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory - $179.99
Storage - Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive - 149.99
Hard Drive Storage - Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive - $54.99
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon RX 5700 - $349.00
Power Supply - EVGA Supernova 850 T2, 80+ Titanium 850W - $359.99
Case - Fractal Design Meshify C White - TG FD-CA-MESH-C-WT-TGC White Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower High-Airflow Compact Clear Tempered Glass Computer Case - $89.99

uncut pelican
#

Yeah thats fine although I cant remember if that mobo is am4 or not

#

Make sure in the mobo description it says AM4

#

Socket

long viper
#

ah sounds good

#

tysm! :)

uncut pelican
#

Np 😊

muted patio
#

all good

uncut pelican
#

Pog

#

Gies

fossil halo
muted patio
#

Yeah

fossil halo
#

although i do believe a 3900x would bottleneck a 5700xt

muted patio
#

go big or go home I guess

fossil halo
#

and for that same price point u can get the new rtx 3060 that is coming out in 16 days

wicked frigate
#

Ok guys I have an question what a top tier memory my cousin want me to trade with him

muted patio
#

Crucial Ballistix

fossil halo
#

trident z

muted patio
#

Neo Trident Z can be

fossil halo
#

yea

muted patio
#

with the right timings

wicked frigate
#

I have crucial

muted patio
#

Some of it is garbage

wicked frigate
#

Better than that

fossil halo
#

crucial is best bang for buck no cap

wicked frigate
#

Any other

fossil halo
#

crucial ballistix

#

corsair veneance is p dogwater

muted patio
#

yes

#

G.Skill is OK

wicked frigate
#

Ok what better than crucial

muted patio
#

Samsung B-Die

wicked frigate
#

Anything

#

I want rgb

#

Hi lease

muted patio
#

B-Die hard to find though

#

Ballistix also comes in RGB

#

I'd stick with that TBH

wicked frigate
#

Ik

#

Ok is g skill or Corsair verb better than crucial

fossil halo
#

corsair is dog water

muted patio
#

IMO, no

fossil halo
#

g skill trident z is p good

#

well

#

unless u got the dom plats

wicked frigate
#

So crucial is better

muted patio
#

It is if you get the good chips with the good timings

#

Like, 3600C18 NEO is garbo

fossil halo
#

crucial is good

#

LOL yea

wicked frigate
#

Ok crucial it is thx

muted patio
#

3200 C14 Neo is most likely B-Die but not guaranteed

wicked frigate
#

What speed

muted patio
#

For Ryzen?

wicked frigate
#

Yah

#

5900x

muted patio
#

get 4000 mhz ram

#

downclock it to 3800 and tighten the timings

wicked frigate
#

For 5900x

muted patio
#

Unless you win the silicon lottery and your chip will do 2000 FCLK

wicked frigate
#

So 4000

#

Or higher

muted patio
#

No

#

Just 4000

wicked frigate
#

Why not hover just wondering

muted patio
#

because you won't be able to use it

#

and will have to downclock it

wicked frigate
#

Ok

muted patio
#

so just get 4000 C16

wicked frigate
#

What about for 5600x

muted patio
#

3600 C16

#

Or 4000 if you're feeling rich

wicked frigate
#

Ok

muted patio
#

and downclock to 3800

wicked frigate
#

Thx

ripe wedge
#

I have gskill neo 3600C16 but got sk hynix chips

muted patio
#

Yup

#

Most of it is

#

3200 C14 is the good bin, most likely B-Die

wicked frigate
#

2 sticks

potent portal
#

Should I get new memory for my 5800X? I have g skill 3200 CL16 right now, but considering 3800 or 4000. How much difference could I expect?

muted patio
#

Potentially quite a bit

#

that's an extra load of bandwidth for the CPU to use

potent portal
#

Like +10%?

muted patio
#

Gamers Nexus did a test with Ryzen 3000 series and different ram speeds. The difference between 3200-3600 C16 was 5-10% depending on the game

#

So I'd expect that or more with 3800-4000

wicked frigate
#

Guys cans someone put a link in I can’t find them

potent portal
#

Yeah fair point, I saw that video too. Maybe I'll get 4000 and hope my bin is good.
3200 was great for my 2700 but I guess it's time for faster.

#

@wicked frigate A link to what?

wicked frigate
#

4000 speed rgb crucial

potent portal
muted patio
#

Wow, RGB too

#

Worst case is you run it at 3800 MHZ and can tighten the timings if your chip won't do 2000 FCLK

potent portal
#

CL18, not bad for that speed too

wicked frigate
#

Ok guys what gpu should my cousin get 5600x gaming

worn wave
#

What is their budget

wicked frigate
#

1500

#

2000 the max

little osprey
wicked frigate
#

Anyone

rich void
#

I don't think they'd really need to buy an additional cooler for a 5600x, or add a bunch of fans.

#

They could also go with a b550 motherboard of they wanted to save 30-40, and get RAM without rgb for maybe 20 less.

wicked frigate
#

Is cl18 good for ram

rich void
#

For a 5600x you probably want to aim for ddr4 3600 with cl16 actually. You can get that for cheaper than the ram in that list (rgb tax)

wicked frigate
#

No he want to trade with me

#

I have that ram

#

He will buy that one for me

#

So is cl 18 good

#

@muted patio help if I can

desert gulch
#

cl18 is meh

#

depends on speed

#

and capacity

fossil halo
#

there was actually a bb drop today

wicked frigate
#

4000

#

Speed

fossil halo
#

my friend got a 3070

desert gulch
#

i mean 4000 c18 aint that bad

wicked frigate
#

Like how bad is that

#

Is that really bad

#

I mean I have 5900x

fossil halo
#

dude

#

lets be real here

wicked frigate
#

Yah??

fossil halo
#

the difference between 2666 cl20 and 4000 cl15 will be like 4 frames

#

in terms of pure gaming performance

little osprey
#

im planning on 5600x as well...
when i get my ram im going to get 3600 CL18 and boost it to CL16, because you can do that

muted patio
potent portal
#

RAM has a big impact on system performance. For Ryzen CPUs it determines how fast your infinity fabric is clocked at, and a even a small increase in fclk is noticeable.

muted patio
#

Bigga is completely wrong there. The difference between 3200 C16 and 3600C16 with Ryzen 3000 was more than that

#

Lemme find the graph

little osprey
#

intel performs good with low speed rams too but amd needs 3600mhz at least

wicked frigate
#

@muted patio will this work my cousin gives me 4000 cl18 and I give him 3600 cl 16

#

Cause I has 5600x

#

I have 5900x

fossil halo
#

oh ok

#

i mean

muted patio
#

This is almost 30 FPS

potent portal
#

That's a really good deal @wicked frigate , you're getting the better RAM out of it probably

fossil halo
#

i ran at 2666 cl16 and im on 3200cl16 now and i didnt notice the frames difference

wicked frigate
#

Ok

fossil halo
#

well maybe its j because of the stupid gt 710

muted patio
#

Depends on the game

little osprey
#

just imagining what it will be like when amd hits am5 + ddr5
and AMD ram needs 7200mhz and up

#

2666 is pretty enough for intel xd

wicked frigate
#

@muted patio should I do the deal

potent portal
#

Faster still helps Intel but not as noticeable as AMD

wicked frigate
#

Whattt

#

People are saying the opposite

little osprey
#

yeah I noticed like 3-5fps between 2666 and 3200 on my intel system

#

but big difference between 3200 and 3600 on amd system

civic tusk
#

I find tightened timings can make more of a difference than anything

wicked frigate
#

Guys I need help choosing out what storage

potent portal
#

@civic tusk Yeah it can definitely make a difference, but when you're talking about Ryzen you want to max out your fclk. Once you have that maxed you'd tighten from there.

wicked frigate
#

Seagate or toshiba

potent portal
#

@wicked frigate Neither 🙃

civic tusk
wicked frigate
#

What

muted patio
#

Been asking this for a month now lol

#

Toshiba - WD- Seagate

wicked frigate
#

It’s not for me

muted patio
#

Since HGST isn't a thing anymore

little osprey
#

lol

muted patio
#

They were good drives

little osprey
#

I never had one to be honest

muted patio
#

backblaze reports on dead drives every quarter

wicked frigate
#

Ok I’ll get toshiba

muted patio
#

Seagate is always the worst

#

lately the 4 TB Toshiba has had a 0% failure rate

wicked frigate
#

What m.2

little osprey
#

sn750 👍

wicked frigate
#

Ok

muted patio
#

Mmmm

#

Mushkin Pilot E

#

I think is a good one too

wicked frigate
#

For my build I got sn850

muted patio
#

for fairly cheap

wicked frigate
#

This is for his build

little osprey
#

seagate have bad customer service tho

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

So sn750

#

Or????

little osprey
#

sn550 for low price . or crucial p2 🤔

wicked frigate
#

Which one had better read and write speed

little osprey
#

sn550 have 2400 . p2 have 2300

mild axle
#

Hai

muted patio
#

3500 read, 3000 write

wicked frigate
#

Ok

mild axle
#

hi epso

wicked frigate
#

So it doesn’t matter between those 2

#

What gpu

#

Or gaming

#

3060ti???

#

3070???

#

3060

muted patio
#

If 1080p, 3060TI

#

If 1440p, 3070

#

If 4K, 3080

wicked frigate
#

Does that matter on monitor

mild axle
#

if 8k 3090 🙂

little osprey
#

i got my 3070 today pepe3090

muted patio
mild axle
#

OMG yes it does

wicked frigate
#

Ok but he will but monitor later

#

So 3070

#

I guess

#

Should he get 850 gold plus

#

Psu

little osprey
#

750w for 3070

#

🤔

muted patio
#

650W for 3060TI

wicked frigate
#

Rm or rmx

little osprey
#

rmx

#

or leadex

wicked frigate
#

2018??

#

Wait if I do 3070 what brand

little osprey
wicked frigate
#

Evga

#

Asus

wise sorrel
#

Is the Samsung evo 970 plus 2tb really worth it? Or should I go with a Seagate 2tb?

little osprey
#

gigabyte vision is good one

worn wave
#

A Seagate SSD?

wise sorrel
#

Yes

little osprey
#

@wise sorrel not seagate . but sn750 can be alternative

desert gulch
#

is it just for games?

wise sorrel
#

Game/video editing

desert gulch
#

do you need the speed of a 970?

#

and like whats your budget like?

wise sorrel
#

I can afford the 970 but that's only with 1 HD and nothing to mirror wth

little osprey
#

970 is very good one

#

sn750 is lil bit slower but have nice price tho

mild axle
#

hi

wise sorrel
#

Yeah the sn750 seems alot cheaper hahaha

little osprey
#

if i remember right 970evo have 3500 read speed while sn750 have 3400

muted patio
#

Mushkin pilot E is 3500/3000 for $110

mild axle
#

Ayo Vintage

wise sorrel
#

Can you mirror a fast HD with a slower one?

mild axle
#

what would be the cheapest 8 core AM4 System?

wise sorrel
#

Or will it slow the speed of the faster 1?

muted patio
#

It will slow the speed of the faster

wise sorrel
#

Well pooh

potent portal
#

You could just do an external backup drive if you want the redundancy

wise sorrel
#

I thought of that

#

Is there much different between the ssd chip versus the old style hard drive

#

Besides space

#

In the case

muted patio
#

OH yes

#

Speed

potent portal
potent portal
wise sorrel
#

Hmmmmm

#

Now that I've found that I can keep my overkill cost down I'm trying to do so lol

potent portal
#

These days I only keep an old style hard drive for stuff like videos and documents.
An SSD will improve your boot time from 5 minutes to 30 seconds easily.

little osprey
#

why 64gb of ram 🤔

potent portal
#

4K video editing, virtual machines, not much other reason to have that much on a desktop.

little osprey
#

yeah i think 32gb is enough for that system since it have 3070 and 3900x

mild axle
#

How 'Bout 8gb

potent portal
#

More than enough if you're just gaming. I only use about 8-10GB including background tasks while gaming.

mild axle
#

ye not enough for blender 🙂

little osprey
#

yeah 16gb is enough for gaming

mild axle
#

but not for blender

potent portal
#

Right, blender gets into the video editing territory where you want 32 GB

mild axle
#

yes

jovial berry
#

Hi can someone please help me? I just built my first pc but my pc won’t boot windows 10 from my usb.

mild axle
#

Ok what have you got?

potent portal
#

How far does it get in the boot process?

jovial berry
#

This is what I get when i get to the bios

potent portal
#

Go to the boot tab and see if your USB is recognized

wise sorrel
#

Well this is my revised version

mild axle
#

dont go into bios

wise sorrel
jovial berry
#

Then afterwards I set the boot and then it goes here

#

Then it just stays on this and doesn’t do anything

small osprey
#

did you flash the bios

potent portal
#

How long do you let it sit for? It can take a few minutes to load if it's a slower drive

jovial berry
brittle tinsel
#

say I took a $2500 build that has nothing built for water cooling, how much would it cost for making it water cool capable?

jovial berry
brittle tinsel
#

and would I be able to leave the fans that are in it, alone?

cursive wharf
#

for the cheap stuff that's still good

brittle tinsel
#

what would I even look up for water cooling cpu and gpu

full atlas
cursive wharf
little osprey
wise sorrel
#

Yes

#

Gotta get one hahaha

#

If I can find 1

little osprey
#

lol

potent portal
#

@jovial berry The latest BIOS version for your board looks like 1.70 and you're on 1.10, you'll need an update

brittle tinsel
#

I dont know if I even need water cooling, just with my last air cooled build I burnt up the cpu, the current build Im aiming to get, will have an AIO

little osprey
#

newegg shuffle is good chance about 3070

wise sorrel
#

I have a lead on the mob for half that price so I may go for it.

little osprey
#

I got mine today

wise sorrel
#

@little osprey I did

#

Lol

#

Just waiting to hear

jovial berry
cursive wharf
potent portal
jovial berry
potent portal
#

It should work as long as the USB is FAT32 format