#building-and-recc-chat

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spice gust
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yes

little osprey
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Make your own dust cover

desert gulch
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Lol

spice gust
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smart

little osprey
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🤯

desert gulch
spice gust
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dang flex

little osprey
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Lol

spice gust
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i slapped my inlet sticker on the bottom of my keyboard

little osprey
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@desert gulch @spice gust guess how much I paid for the GPU

spice gust
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to much

little osprey
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$0

spice gust
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dang

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lucky

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i got my xc 2080s for like $1000

little osprey
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Sold my 5700xt for $600, bought the GPU 2 hours later for $600

spice gust
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ohhh that makes sense

little osprey
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So technically it was free

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My bank account was never touched

spice gust
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yes

ripe wedge
desert gulch
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Lol not my pic

ripe wedge
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nvm you didnt get it

little osprey
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You recycled the picture Ryan

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Not the computer

desert gulch
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Ahh lol

vernal urchin
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so youre saying i can sell my 5700xt to some poor soul and snag a 2080 for dirt cheap?

balmy patio
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tbh

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take advantage of desperate people and you can even pick up a 3070

little osprey
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I got a 1500$ offer for 3070

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Lmao

balmy patio
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idea came from sara

little osprey
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I declined it cause I aint going to need a 3090

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@vernal urchin yes

fossil halo
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@balmy patio lol Sara got the hella money moves

blissful apex
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Hey there everyone, I completed my latest build recently, wanted to get some second opinions on everything

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(Pc Part Picker updated with prices I paid for parts)

pine kayak
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only a 3070 ?

muted sluice
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The budgeting is bad

muted sluice
muted sluice
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If your gaming at 1080p it’s good

worn wave
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The i9-9900k is pretty cheap now but got outdated quickly, it's good for the price though

blissful apex
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More than comfortable with 1080p 165hz gaming right now at medium-high settings

blissful apex
muted sluice
blissful apex
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Well the RAM was a deal from a friend, $150 for 8x4GB RGB DDR4-3000 didn't seem too bad, and considering playing COD on my old build could spike my RAM usage to 12+ GB out of 16GB total at times, I felt 32 added some future proof in that sense I guess.

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As for the storage, the WD Black hard drives are excellent performers, and considering the mass storage at cheaper prices than solid states, I opted for one large hard disk drive along with my boot M.2. Only a couple months in, and half my 4TB HDD has easily been filled by games and other media, my 1TB M.2 maybe 1/4 filled. Point is, gaming takes up a lot of storage.

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@muted sluice

uncut pelican
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Gm build chat

muted sluice
blissful apex
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Don't think I could find $150 RGB 8x4GB with better timings. RGB was a main part of buying this kit, which was a deal from a friend

muted sluice
blissful apex
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8x4 was also important for looks

muted sluice
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Ballistix ram could’ve been tuned to cl14 at 3600mhz

blissful apex
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Practically paying $200 for that kit

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  • $50 worth it for a negligible 600 MHz
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?

muted sluice
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Not really

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It would’ve been 140

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Cl16 tuned down to cl14

blissful apex
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I think I can tune these Vengeance Pro up as well

muted sluice
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Corsair have trash dies for tuning

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And overclocking

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U won’t boot

blissful apex
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Interesting

muted sluice
blissful apex
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My friend I purchased them from was able to run 3200 MHz on the same kit

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Probably at CL16

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But 3 GHz to 3.2 seems even less necessary for any apparent performance gain

muted sluice
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Yea

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Little performance gain probably

worn wave
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You cant OC at all really on those

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Crucial Ballistix can OC way better than those for about the same price usually

blissful apex
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@muted sluice I appreciate the input, definitely see where you're coming from with the RAM/storage comments. I actually had G.Skill's Ripjaws 8x4GB DDR4-3600 in here before at a similar price, but switched it out after realizing I wanted some RGB in there. Same goes with my motherboard, wanted to make sure it had ARGB headers and that my case fans were RGB, so I definitely see where there's head room for performance when overlooking aesthetic. I don't know if I could budget in a 3080/10850k still desiring an RGB-themed build.

worn wave
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Crucial Ballistix RGB seems to be out of stock on Newegg currently

muted sluice
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Yea

worn wave
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But that is what I would recommend

muted sluice
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And tariffs

blissful apex
restive nebula
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@mortal umbra Get the pc off the carpet!!!!!!!

muted sluice
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If u want upgrade it

blissful apex
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Yeah, what I'm saying is if I planned on selling for what I paid, $150, I wouldn't think it to be worth to pay more than $150 for a kit that probably won't visibily increase performance

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I could probably get more than $150 for that kit though

worn wave
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You paid $150 for a 16GB kit?

blissful apex
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8x4

worn wave
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Ah okay

muted sluice
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Kinda slow tho

blissful apex
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3000Mhz vs 3600Mhz I wouldn't be able to tell the difference

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That is a fact

worn wave
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Depends on the application

muted sluice
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On intel true

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But u downgraded your ram

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For RGB

worn wave
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On Intel you wont see a huge difference but on Ryzen 3000 series you most likely will

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Not huge but you will see a difference

blissful apex
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Yes that is true, I figured the difference in speed is negligible given I wanted RGB ram

muted sluice
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Fair enough

blissful apex
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Gonna check out the Ballistix kits though

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Thanks a lot

muted sluice
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RGB=PERFORMANCE

muted sluice
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Probably just a 4 FPS gain with new ram

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It was just budgeted poorly on ram and storage

blissful apex
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I think the storage deals were excellent

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WD's Black drives are beasts

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And I've already used up more than half of my storage less than a couple months in

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(Granted, I've probably already installed most of what I'm going to have installed in the next year or 2)

wicked frigate
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Guys what is the best mobo brand

jagged ember
wicked frigate
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What’s the best mobo brand and model

jagged ember
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Really depends

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What cpu

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What budget

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Will you do overclocking?

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Actually, the asus rog dominus probably best motherboard

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Made for Xeons and can supply 1000w of power while overclocking

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It's just around like 1,550€

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Yep

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Well, he wanted the best

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Rubles

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Canadian rubles

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Or american ones

still bay
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American America’s

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We just use America as our currency 🦅🦅🦅🦅

cyan stone
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Freedom dollars

still bay
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Freedom bucks

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Backed by Bald Eagle Dollars

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🔫🔫💪💪🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

cyan stone
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Lol

still bay
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I like how people think that those emojis just describe America

cyan stone
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Watch some European come in here and just start hating on ya lol

still bay
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When it literally describes like South Dakota and that’s it

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Lol I wish they would

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It’s not chewsday so they are prob drinking like tea rn

cyan stone
ripe halo
delicate herald
blazing aurora
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workstation/editing i assume?

little osprey
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Are there any websites or companies where i can pick out my parts and the company cans build it and ship it to me without me having to actually build it myself?

verbal quarry
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yes there is alot

little osprey
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are there any like big ones or any that are like great value and worth the money

verbal quarry
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well personally what i would do is look for popular pc building companies

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pick the parts you want and compare prices on pcpartpicker

worn wave
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Microcenter if you live near one

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I'm sure there are people in your town that offer that service

verbal quarry
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just look around and compare prices and build quality

delicate herald
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editing and gaming high fps

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@blazing aurora

blazing aurora
delicate herald
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the monitor is 240hz 1440p

blazing aurora
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32 gb of ram is more than enough

delicate herald
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the Budget is 4k and i already maxed out the gpu

blazing aurora
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alright then you're set

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that build is monstrous

delicate herald
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exactly

blazing aurora
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honestly i'd say it's overkill for normal editing but i digress

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4000mhz ram is a nice touch for the 5900x

delicate herald
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for too long i haven't had a pc and i just want power tbh man for too long i have been bottlenecked by my setup because when I didn't know about tech i made poor decisions but now I know and I have a way to get $4k in the summer and that why Im getting this monster

blazing aurora
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ah okay

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so you have some cash to splurge

delicate herald
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yup

blazing aurora
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i still think you'd be good with 32gb of ram, that way you could spend the cash on peripherals (kbm, headset, etc)

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but it's your call

little osprey
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if you tune it though higher the mhz the better

blazing aurora
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but with that build "tuning" is inevitable

red canopy
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Still need to find an aio

worn wave
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liquid freezer ii

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EK

red canopy
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Okay

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also

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whats the price for 5900x bc it says 1.2k lol and i know thts caps

worn wave
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$549 MSRP

red canopy
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okay

little osprey
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ok don’t judge me bc i’m new to pcs. I’m looking for a good prebuilt for video games and this one seems pretty decent. my budget is like 550 bucks prob

worn wave
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Join a stock watching discord or something

little osprey
worn wave
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Way overpriced

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beyond overpriced

little osprey
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really?

red canopy
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@little osprey save up and get 1k

worn wave
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Thats worth like $200 at max

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Barely worth $200

red canopy
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^^

worn wave
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I have sold better systems for $175

red canopy
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760ti?

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what do u plan to run on that

little osprey
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i only play rocket league and i’ll play valorant

red canopy
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valorant needs fps

worn wave
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Save up a couple hundred more for a HP Gaming pre built

red canopy
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^^

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@worn wave thats only a 240mil

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i need a 360 one

worn wave
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They make a 360

red canopy
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Oh

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amazon is weird bc it only shows 240 for me

worn wave
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Then look on other websites

red canopy
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oh nevermind i see the options

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whats the difference between 360 and 420?

little osprey
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are there any good prebuilts rn for like 650 max that could run valorant decently?

worn wave
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larger size...

red canopy
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they look the same

worn wave
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uses 3 140mm fans

red canopy
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oh ok

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which one would fit in an a11 dyaminc xl

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360 right?

worn wave
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yes

red canopy
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okay

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also is corsair ql120 fans good

worn wave
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Overpriced

red canopy
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im planning on getting 10 with commander pro

worn wave
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You said yesterday you did not want RGB

red canopy
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oh okay what other good rgb fans are there

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i changed my mind

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i want light rgb, fans and ram only

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if im getting a 200 case might as well make it look good

worn wave
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Theres like zero good prebuilts for cheap currently

little osprey
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dang

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what if i go to 900 bucks

worn wave
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I highly recommend building your own system

red canopy
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i made some changes

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how is this

worn wave
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Jesus christ

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That RAM is overpriced

red canopy
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oh

worn wave
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You can buy a 64gb kit for that much money

little osprey
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i really don’t think i can build my own i know for sure i will screw it up

worn wave
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You wont lmao

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Its easy to build

red canopy
worn wave
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hardest part is picking out parts

red canopy
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just watch 50 pc builds

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on youtube

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youll become a pro

worn wave
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This will literally tell you and show you what to do step by step

red canopy
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@worn wave what other rgb 32gb pack would you reccomend

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i was thinking 4x8 for aesthetics

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but 2x16 could work too

little osprey
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ok can someone possibly find me good parts and add up 600$

worn wave
little osprey
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wow

little osprey
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Visiontek SFF Radeon 7750 Single-Fan 2GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 Graphics Card

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is this a good graphics card

worn wave
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uh no

quasi snow
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No that's super old

worn wave
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You might be able to buy a used 1060 or 1070 for cheap

quasi snow
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Looking at your previous messages for a budget of 600 I'd recommend waiting unless you need the pc immediately

worn wave
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even a rx 580 if you are on a super low budget

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I highly recommend waiting

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Or if you got a microcenter near you, you might be able to get a good deal on a GPU

little osprey
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there’s a micro center a 1hour 30 min drive

paper jay
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Why tf are people still buying pc parts when some of them are literally 3x their original price

sage nexus
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Idk

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I should ask all my friends that

paper jay
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The prices will only go down if people quit spam buying any GPU they can get their hands on

worn wave
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Not really

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That is not really the huge reason

stoic island
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The problem isn't some people hoarding and spam buying, the problem is just the supply can't deal with the huge demand

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It's not just consumer pc market running out of parts, auto manufacturers are also running out of chips

worn wave
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Covid plays a huge factor in it

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Less workers to work at factories who produce products, the pc parts market aint the only market hit.

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It has gotten better with other markets though, not so much with pc parts market

stoic island
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There's also the factor of ETH being so profitable for GPU mining

worn wave
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Yuuup

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Another pretty big factor

little osprey
stoic island
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@little osprey Not exactly, many miners doing ETH still get it through consumer or AIB partners

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And that means consumer cards, not mining-specific cards, are being acquired

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And I'm talking about stock in general, yes those miners won't directly affect your chances of getting a card on Newegg for example, but if they don't have enough cards to begin with, your average consumer won't get one

little osprey
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im saying they're the same model

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shipments for miners and shipments for consumers

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the miners that do get shipments that would affect the stock usually buy 50-500k worth of cards

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Hey guys is there any benchmark which shows that any ram above 3200mhz cl16 for Intel is obsolete?

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i see EVGA the most for the smaller miners

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good

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because they get the stinky clown lip gpus PepeLaugh

little osprey
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I'm planning an intel i9 build with my 3090

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i could buy 3600c16 ram or 3200c16

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but 3200c16 is 50 bucks cheaper

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I just wanted to know if there are any performance benefits

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Not much

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it would be better to spend money on 4000c16 if anything

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if you're going to spend a ton of money on ram

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yeah that's a lot more money I have to spend

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It's like 200$ more, than 3600c16

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@little osprey Do you think a 11900k is enough for a 1440p 240hz main monitor and a 1080p 75hz second one?

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yes

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Thank you. Hoping the 11900k will be the same price like the 5800x

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Otherwise I must switch to AMD

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No its definitely gonna be 5900x-5950x price

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Probably leaning closer to 550$

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what!

worn wave
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11900k is most likely about to be similar pricing to 5900X

little osprey
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Okay if that what you're saying is true, will buy 5900x

worn wave
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Its always been like this

little osprey
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For 8 cores only!

worn wave
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no

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Wait it really is going to be 8 cores

little osprey
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Yeah

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I heard they couldn't fit 10 cores because of the die size

worn wave
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Rumours are that 12900k will most likely be 16 core possibly

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The 10900k was 10 cores though?

little osprey
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Yeah but 8 cores of 16 will be lower performing

worn wave
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I dont understand why Intel would do this

hollow lily
little osprey
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I mean 8 cores for 550 bucks is nonsense

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would buy a 5900x with solid mobo

worn wave
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I am excited to see what Alder Lake brings

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I hope they release new Workstation Xeons on Alder Lake

little osprey
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👍

uncut pelican
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@wintry crescent i think a 3080 might fit tbh

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Is that a corsair 220t?

dreamy lantern
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i changed my power supply

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seeing if three a problem

earnest olive
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wouldn't recommend getting that case

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replace the ssd with an MP34 and spend the price difference on a better case

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flimsy construction, poor cable management room, and (worst of all) the fans cannot be controlled whatsoever due to being molex

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both the fan speed and the lighting

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consider replacing with this

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same performance ram for same price but it isn't red which is a bonus imo

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asus website is an absolute piece of garbage and won't let me check if that motherboard has a bios flash button

fossil halo
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yea

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the case and ram kinda cringe

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or yea get a case for similar money and consider upgrading to 3600mhz ram

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after making the 970 evo plus to a mp 34

earnest olive
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montech x1 is a really big bait

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looks good for the price but.. you get what you pay for

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cut corners

worn wave
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Look at the Fractal Design Focus G if you need a super budget ATX case

dreamy lantern
worn wave
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How much was that case?

dreamy lantern
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49

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usd

earnest olive
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why do people post for help after already buying stuff

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anyways the psu is fine

rich helm
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Also why do people get really expensive stuff for cpu and gpu but then buy the cheapest item for every other option

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It’s much easier to upgrade the cpu and gpu later than to do the case or cooler

steep basalt
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Anyone know of any good floppy drives that would work on a modern PC? I have a reason for wanting to do this.

worn wave
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USB floppy

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USB floppy drive is the easiest

unborn gale
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Any advice on what cpu is good enough for just using it to use basic applications? I don’t need a gaming cpu, it’s for my mom’s friends that work with filing taxes and aren’t knowledgeable with computer parts

muted patio
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Intel 10100

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Or 10400

unborn gale
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I was actually considering the 10400

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This is what they use PogU

vernal urchin
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So I was thinking about getting some cable extensions but I am confused on whether or not i will need both EPS cables or just the one 8 pin

potent portal
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For the CPU you'll usually just need the 8 pin unless you're doing extreme overclocking

pure bough
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@weak wraith that looks AWESOME! may I ask what specs?

vernal urchin
weak wraith
fossil halo
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shiet he aint playin around

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those some heavy ass duty parts

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how many fps u getting

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wait how did u get the gpu block tho

pure bough
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dam, that is op. my finished setup is a 3090 + 5950x, ive got the 3090. im still impressed, just... dam

potent portal
fossil halo
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shoot bro

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waterblocking a gpu

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looks stressful asl

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especially if it is a super expensive one

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like one mistake

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and gg's

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and ur doing basically everything you can to void the warranty

potent portal
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It's not that serious. You remove a few screws, slap a new block on, tighten the tubes down, then fill it.

vernal urchin
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you think i could get the voltage lower for 5.1?

potent portal
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No 1.3 is pushing it already IMO

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Are you looking at package power?

vernal urchin
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yes, its in the same place as package temps right? am i looking in the wrong place?

potent portal
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"CPU Package Power (SMU)"

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In the CPU section under memory timings

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Like my Ryzen 2700 (non X) is a 65 Watt processor, but I overclock it and it pulls 120+ Watts easy stress testing

vernal urchin
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yeah i ran it on a cpuz stress test for like 5 minutes and saw it peak at around 177 to 180 i can check again but it was under 200 at 5.1

potent portal
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So theoretically the 8 pin only should be fine, but if you have stability issues definitely good to do the 8+4

austere wagon
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Ah reading all your stuff makes me think I shoulda gone for an even higher voltage power supply

vernal urchin
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alright, I was going to buy the extra 4+4 pin eps just in case anyway but if i can save money then that would be great

potent portal
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Yeah when you're calculating your expected power draw the "calculators" don't always account for overclocking properly

vernal urchin
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i only have an 850w

potent portal
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Only
That's a bit overkill still lol

vernal urchin
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i was prepping for a 3070 or 3080 but the availability is not good

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so i am stuck with a 5700xt for a while

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it still pulls like 200-250 watts stock but the drivers are erratic and anything I do makes it crash

austere wagon
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I have a 650w it should in theory be totally fine

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I have no clue what any of my other components pull from that though

vernal urchin
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But i got the psu in a really good sale so 😛

potent portal
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Usually a good 650 is more than enough, even overclocking both CPU and GPU, unless you get into the really high end stuff like a 5950X and a 3090

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Nothing wrong with a good sale 😉

fast dust
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yeah, 650w is good enough for most system

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s

earnest olive
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"only have an 850w"

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lol

fast dust
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until you get to 3080 territory, then you need more cause 3080 has high power spikes

austere wagon
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I only will be having a 1070 Ti for my GPU

earnest olive
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750W is more than enough for OC 10900K + 3090 in synthetic benchmarks

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650W is enough in gaming

potent portal
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Yeah you'll hear a lot of stories about people getting blanking screens and such and it's because their power supply isn't good enough tier to handle it

earnest olive
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not that you should buy a 650W with such parts

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but.. "only" 850W

vernal urchin
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i needed to be sure. lol

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but its 80+ gold so its at least reliable

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and it isn't a gigabyte psu

desert gulch
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80+ gold doesn't mean crap

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And model over brand

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All psu companies make trash stuff

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80+ is just efficiency

vernal urchin
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mwe gold 850 v2

desert gulch
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Not a sign of quality

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Yeah that one is a good tier iirc

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But there are trash psus with 80+ gold

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That will blow up

potent portal
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I've seen OEM garbage get 80+ Titanium

desert gulch
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Yeah

vernal urchin
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yeah, hence the crappy gigabyte one, i just worded it incorrectly lol

desert gulch
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Lol

potent portal
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Whew, ran prime95 for a while and my lil 65 Watt processor peaked over 145 Watts 🔥

vernal urchin
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spicy

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kinda makes me wonder, i had a 2700 at 4.15ghz, never knew about the hardware monitor

potent portal
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I'm only keeping mine at 4 GHz@1.2875v, it's tricky getting the 2000s to go to all core speed at their boost clock without ridiculous tuning

vernal urchin
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i wonder how high i can get an FX 4130 without it exploding

potent portal
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5 GHz stable is achievable on that chip, if it's binned good

vernal urchin
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neat

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I just need some ddr3 and a cooler and I have another system

verbal quarry
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how big of a psu do you need for the 3070 fe?

muted patio
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650ish

verbal quarry
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cool i was looking to drop the aio i want and go for the 3070 instead of the 3060ti

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now i have another question

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what is a good 700-750w psu thats b teir?

muted patio
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Why b tier? $100 for phanteks amp 750

desert gulch
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yeah

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super flower leadex 3 on sale sometimes too

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i think 750 is 115 on sale

verbal quarry
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honestly my thought process was that b teir has cheaper psu then a teir

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dont question it lol

desert gulch
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lol

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b tier fine but when a tier is like not much more for a way better psu...

verbal quarry
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could i get the model of the psu he is talking about?

desert gulch
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phanteks amp 750

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look it up on wegg or amazon

verbal quarry
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alr

desert gulch
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ye

verbal quarry
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oh wow its a full modular

muted patio
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A tier

verbal quarry
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the one i had before was semi xD

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thanks vintage

cobalt smelt
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can someone rate my build?

vocal axle
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What is a good free software to moniter your CPU performance and temp?

cobalt smelt
verbal quarry
jagged ember
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Hwinfo64

cobalt smelt
verbal quarry
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im talking about the american dollar xD

cobalt smelt
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LMAO

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yes

verbal quarry
#

its not a bad build

#

but for that cost you can have something so much better

#

like you could get a 3070 for that price of a 1660ti

jagged ember
#

Cooler can be anything but that

#

Id cooling sse224 cheaper and better.

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Thermal paste is fine, ig

verbal quarry
#

and with the little money saved from that 3070 fe you could get a better cpu

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like a ryzen 5 5600x

cobalt smelt
#

got any links i can see

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for the parts

verbal quarry
#

sure give me a minute ill send it to you

cobalt smelt
#

k thx

jagged ember
#

And yeah gpu could be way better for price

#

But good luck getting one at msrp

#

Or getting one at all

#

5600x is better for 100 bucks more

verbal quarry
#

thats basically the replace

cobalt smelt
#

k

verbal quarry
#

and with that mobo you can get rid of that wifi usb

jagged ember
#

Lol rgb ram tho

#

Why not just go for ripjaws 3600

#

Better performance

verbal quarry
#

hes going rgb stuf so i thought it fit in lol

jagged ember
#

Cheaper iirc

cobalt smelt
#

i cant get the graphics card tho

verbal quarry
#

that trident z is 3600 cl16

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super you have to buy it from bestbuy

#

its an exclusive and the cheapest 3070

jagged ember
#

Best buy prices isn't great tho iirc

cobalt smelt
#

ok, how much does it cost?

jagged ember
#

Selling over msrp

verbal quarry
#

499.99

cobalt smelt
#

ok

verbal quarry
#

hell you might be able to pull a 3080

#

lemme check

jagged ember
#

Lol don't tempt him

#

I wouldn't see anyone needing a 3080 for gaming tbh

verbal quarry
#

its always nice to know your options

jagged ember
#

Rtx is a gimmick and it's still niche

verbal quarry
#

the 3080 is 699.99

desert gulch
#

some people want 3080

#

3080 in msfs would be rly nice

jagged ember
#

3080 not worth it imo if ur just gaming

verbal quarry
#

so the 3080 is pretty close to that 1660ti you originally had

desert gulch
#

even 2080ti only gets like 60 fps on ultra 1080p

jagged ember
#

But that's cause I don't play at high res

desert gulch
#

so imagine 4k at ultra

verbal quarry
#

but with the parts i sent you i wouldnt recommend unless you plan on changing

desert gulch
#

youd want 3080 at least

jagged ember
#

Ehh

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Okay

#

I dunno, Id be happy with a 3070

verbal quarry
#

@cobalt smelt

#

read up on what i said if you havent already

cobalt smelt
#

the cpu you put isnt compatible

jagged ember
#

It should be

verbal quarry
#

it is but it might need a bios update

jagged ember
#

But fair, not all b550s have the right bios

verbal quarry
#

but if you buy the mobo now you shouldnt need to

jagged ember
#

Bios update isn't difficult anyways

verbal quarry
#

yea the one i gave you has a flash bios button

#

👍

jagged ember
#

Nicr

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So no need a cpu when updating bios

verbal quarry
#

yea i got the mobo myself since im building my own

jagged ember
#

That's pretty epic

cobalt smelt
verbal quarry
#

@jagged ember idk how to explain that xD

jagged ember
#

that's the basic input output system on the motherboard

cobalt smelt
#

oh

jagged ember
#

it basically handles the most basic commands

#

so your pc can do things

#

it's a paperweight without one so

#

it's vital

verbal quarry
#

that pcpartpicker i sent is my build

jagged ember
#

but really upgrading it is not a challenge lol

#

i wouldn't worry about bios versions/incompatibilities

cobalt smelt
#

so basically, should i change my cpu lol

verbal quarry
#

to the r5 5600x? yes

jagged ember
#

yep

cobalt smelt
#

ok

verbal quarry
#

your getting the most recent series of cpu for ryzen

jagged ember
#

personally, i'd go for the mp34 instead as an SSD

#

cheaper and better performance

#

RAM is up to you tho, if you want that rgb go for his set

#

otherwise ripjaws are like 95 bucks

verbal quarry
#

i love crucial but i cant get my hands on it

jagged ember
#

crucial too if you can get it lol

verbal quarry
#

its so hard to get

jagged ember
#

seagate drives have controversy just ask lili

#

but in my experience they've been very reliable

verbal quarry
#

my combo in storage that i plan on using seems like a decent one for cost

jagged ember
#

i just do NAS

#

so i have like 6tb of storage kek

verbal quarry
#

its a wd blue 4tb with a 970 evo plus 500gb

jagged ember
#

true, but i think the WD blue was 5400rpm

#

eh

#

depends on if you wanted more storage or more speed

verbal quarry
#

i mean its just gonna hold games

jagged ember
#

i like speed

verbal quarry
#

the evo is gonna run the system

jagged ember
#

ik

#

but having a 5400rpm will slow down some file transfers

#

and you'll probably store games on the hdd

verbal quarry
#

yea i plan to store games on it

cobalt smelt
#

can someone explain this lol,sorry " Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vermeer CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions."

jagged ember
#

so loading games will be slower

jagged ember
potent portal
#

Blue drives can be 7200, mine are

jagged ember
#

with the board unknown gave you, you won't need another cpu

verbal quarry
#

😄

jagged ember
#

'gave'

#

recommended is a better term lol

cobalt smelt
#

how do i update tho?

verbal quarry
#

yea

#

you get power to the board

jagged ember
#

we'll tell you then

#

or now, ig

verbal quarry
#

and press the tiny button on board

jagged ember
#

so you gotta get the bios from your motherboards manufacturer

#

download it onto a usb

#

plug the usb into your motherboard usb port

#

should be the one labeled as bios or whatever

#

then you just press the bios flash button and it'll do it

cobalt smelt
#

where can i find the bios?

verbal quarry
#

hey wideus know any alternatives on getting windows?

jagged ember
#

online

verbal quarry
#

after you help super tho

jagged ember
#

oh windows is free bro

#

just watermarked

#

but free

verbal quarry
#

yea i plan on doing that

#

but i wanna get the entire thing

jagged ember
#

generally under the support section

jagged ember
#

just you get a dum watermark

verbal quarry
#

i mean customize it

jagged ember
#

ohhhh

#

ebay

verbal quarry
#

cant they lock the keys or something?

jagged ember
#

idk

#

but a lotta people here also say ebay

#

and it makes sense

#

how they gonna know u got it from ebay

verbal quarry
#

true ill risk it

cobalt smelt
jagged ember
#

the one you're gonna be building with

verbal quarry
#

the asus b550-f (WIFI)

jagged ember
#

but that's kind of an after build problem lol

verbal quarry
#

the one i sent you

jagged ember
#

dont stress too much about it

potent portal
#

The keys they sell (resell technically) are considered gray market, officially against ToS but no one cares enough. Often they're old Windows 7/8 keys that still work.

jagged ember
#

haha gray market keys go brrr

verbal quarry
#

@potent portal you are a saint lol

#

thank you for that bit of info

jagged ember
#

grey? gray?

#

graey

potent portal
#

No problem.
Gray vs Grey is mostly dialect, both are correct

cobalt smelt
potent portal
#

I'm using an old Win 7 key myself 👍

jagged ember
#

right

#

youre gonna wanna download the bios onto a usb on another pc

verbal quarry
#

fancy

cobalt smelt
#

ok cool

verbal quarry
#

super is lucky he added the cost of windows into his build xD

jagged ember
#

discord died

verbal quarry
#

yea

jagged ember
#

another wheel on google servers must have broken

#

or maybe someone was yelling in the server room

verbal quarry
#

probably

#

banging on the desk

#

wideus do you know jayztwocents?

jagged ember
#

that was what broke the wheel

#

i see

#

oop

#

there it fixed

#

jayz nice

verbal quarry
#

hes doing a give away for a 6800xt

jagged ember
#

less boring than GN

#

more accurate than LTT

cobalt smelt
jagged ember
#

can't share screen in vc i think

#

are you

#

trying to update your bios now?

cobalt smelt
#

im just trying to download the files cause i already got the external drive

jagged ember
#

okay, i'll just walk u thru it here

#

lemme go see the mobo again

#

asoos

verbal quarry
#

it should be the asus b550-f

cobalt smelt
#

im on the website under support

jagged ember
#

just slap it first thing in the usb lol

cobalt smelt
#

how did you get there

jagged ember
#

click bios and firmware

#

under drivers and tools

cobalt smelt
#

ok thanks

jagged ember
#

if u put in folders it's more difficult to find the bios when you're updating it

#

it's not complicated, but it'll take like a button press more

#

i like to reduce the number of presses

verbal quarry
#

same here

#

but imma risk not doing the bios update and hope i get lucky

jagged ember
#

eh

#

it's not really dangerous if you have a flashback button

verbal quarry
#

ik but itll take more time away from using the thing

jagged ember
#

yeah

potent portal
#

Yeah, even if it ends up not working you can just fix it later

jagged ember
#

but it does come with nice updates and maybe improvements

#

i just updated my bios yesterday lol

verbal quarry
#

nice

potent portal
#

<-🛏️

jagged ember
#

🛏️ ⏲️ ?

potent portal
#

Sure lets go with the bed clock lol

jagged ember
#

aaa my room is 30 degrees

verbal quarry
#

rip

potent portal
#

Celsius?

jagged ember
#

celcius

verbal quarry
#

oh thats not that bad

jagged ember
#

fair

#

38% humidity

#

so it's not terrible

verbal quarry
#

but just enough for you to notice

jagged ember
#

yep

#

well, i also have like a clock that shows temps and humidity also

verbal quarry
#

i think the worst the my room temp has been is -10 degrees

jagged ember
#

damnn

#

-10?

#

that's good for your temps

verbal quarry
#

Fahrenheit

jagged ember
#

oh

verbal quarry
#

yea xD

jagged ember
#

idk what that means lol

verbal quarry
#

below freezing

jagged ember
#

oh geez

verbal quarry
#

yea and chances of frostbite

#

getting below freezing using Fahrenheit is 30 degrees

jagged ember
#

that's pretty cold man

verbal quarry
#

sorry 32 degrees

#

oh yea its awful

cobalt smelt
verbal quarry
#

well imma go to sleep guys

#

cya

#

and goodnight

#

or goodmorning where ever you are

cobalt smelt
#

ok cya, thx for the help

jagged ember
#

yeah

#

that's good

verbal quarry
#

np and good luck on the pc

cobalt smelt
#

tysm

long viper
#

does anyone know if the Corsair H115i RGB Platinum fits into the top of the Fractal Design Meshify case?

#

im a bit new to the building scene and im not sure if it will fit on top

potent portal
#

The meshify C? There's plenty of room.
Pretty good case btw, 9/10 if I'm picky (and I am)

cobalt smelt
#

any substitutes for the nvidia rtx 3070?

little osprey
#

holy crap building a pc looks so hard i don’t think i’ll be able to do this

#

i just watched a long totorial and it is way to complicated and what if i buy parts that aren’t comparable

#

compatible*^

lyric thistle
#

Just ask

#

And check before you buy

wanton cliff
barren rampart
#

hi

wanton cliff
#

Do you need something?

cobalt smelt
wanton cliff
#

Yep

#

No real substitute tbh

#

Might be able to get a 2080 Ti off of the used market, if you are lucky

cobalt smelt
#

i sorta meant do you recommend any decent gpus

wanton cliff
#

3070, 3080, 3060Ti

#

6800 XT, 6900 XT

cobalt smelt
#

thx

wanton cliff
#

And that’s the full list

#

However

#

All of them are being scalped

cobalt smelt
#

scalped?

wanton cliff
#

Bought and resold at ridiculous prices

cobalt smelt
#

damn

#

what about any gpu's, dosn't have to be nvidia

wanton cliff
#

Nvidia and AMD are the only ones

#

And I listed them

#

6800 XT and 6900 XT

cobalt smelt
#

ok

wanton cliff
#

6800’s performance is not what people were led to believe it would be

civic tusk
royal tide
#

Anyone recently purchased an ABS rig? Having crashing issues

vocal axle
#

So I got a weird issue.... I have a samsung 860 evo 1T SSD but my PC won't assign it a drive letter. I have a Ryzen 9 3600 CPU and Windows 10 on. 500G HDD. Note: this is my first SSD and I eventually want to get rid of my HDD.

The computer detects the SSD and identities that it has 1T storage but that's the end of it.

#

Samsunga magician says I can transfer all the data but I need to be able to use it. :/

worn wave
#

Go to disk management and assign it a letter

tender meteor
#

hey guys a good build using newegg custom pc builder for 3000 qar (823.80 usd) i live in qatar want to use the rig for video editing and gaming programming and blender

vocal axle
#

It wasn't even an option

sullen spoke
#

is it a new drive? have you formatted it or is it still unallocated?

vocal axle
#

It's a brand new drive, plugged in last night

worn wave
#

You need to initialize it in Disk Management

#

and create a new volume

austere flicker
#

Anyone around?

shrewd nova
#

there's always someone

austere flicker
#

Stupid question: Have and RTX3080 on a RMX 850

#

Picked up a 3070 and want to put it in the same rig, the RMX 850 only has 1 "GPU" slot for power

shrewd nova
#

oh, I don't know much about those new GPUs

austere flicker
#

If I have a 3080 installed in a rig with a RMX 850, can I put a 3070 in there as well? If so what does it plug into on the PSU?

jagged ember
#

Why would you want to run two different gpus?

#

Additionally, only 3090 supports sli anymore

#

And you'd need an nvlink for that

vocal axle
#

This is also my first windows 10.... what would one do if this was the only storage they had?

#

ok found the create new space button. lolz

little osprey
#

convert to mbr disk

rich helm
#

The rmx 850 is a power supply right

blazing aurora
#

yes

#

from corsair I believe

rich helm
#

Would an 850w even be enough to run a 3080 and a 3070

blazing aurora
#

probably not

rich helm
#

Also aren’t both the 3070 and 3080 triple eight pins or is it just the 3080

blazing aurora
#

don't know why you'd want that

#

even if it was for SLI you need two of the same card

rich helm
#

Yeah and sli is only on the founder 3090 I thought

blazing aurora
#

yeah

rich helm
#

I’m not entirely sure, but could you game on the 3080 and then stream off of the 3070 with its nvenc encoder?

jagged ember
#

Did

#

Did no one read my messages?

rich helm
#

I read them

jagged ember
#

I basically said no sli and is useless

#

But not sure abt pin situation

rich helm
#

So two applications can’t use two different cards?

jagged ember
#

No I doubt it

#

You can like, run a monitor per gpu

#

But your pins

rich helm
#

I don’t think an 850 watt would have enough pins for both

jagged ember
#

Youll need like 24x2 pins

#

So prolly two psu

#

All in all, absolutely impractical

#

Streaming using nvenc barely hits your performance anyways

rich helm
#

Doesn’t that one insane Corsair case have support for an atx and a mini itx/or matx system? That thing has got to have two psus in it right

jagged ember
#

Probably?

#

But why not desk pc at that point

worn wave
#

1000D?

rich helm
#

I thought so

jagged ember
#

Or some other ridiculous thing

worn wave
#

1000D is not worth it for the Price

#

there are many cheaper cases with dual system, dual PSU support

jagged ember
#

Haha tell that to kenzie

wanton cliff
#

uh I’m trying to boot into safe mode but when I click “restart with these options” or whatever, it first won’t display any signal, then turns off without giving me the option to boot into safe mode?

rich helm
worn wave
#

Enthoo 719 has dual System/CPU support for $189.99

#

It's an amazing case for the price

jagged ember
#

Who even needs dual pc

worn wave
#

Streamers

#

Some developers

#

I have two PCs that I use

#

Gaming system and Workstation system

rich helm
#

The small rig is supposed to have a capture card and a gpu and cpu usually

jagged ember
#

Mine is an all in one

#

I just use my laptop as a note tool

worn wave
#

I like having all my software and files separate from each other

jagged ember
#

Also sorry Sara, not sure why safe mode ain't working

#

Currently winding down and looking into it would stop me from sleeping

wanton cliff
#

Oi @viral ore

viral ore
#

oi

wanton cliff
#

^

#

Problem

viral ore
#

what you need in safe mode?

wanton cliff
#

DDU

viral ore
#

I see, try going to the advanced startup options, I think you have to get to them through windows tho, I think windows 10 killed the ability to hit F8 on boot

worn wave
#

They did but theres tools to enable it

wanton cliff
#

I pressed shift and hit restart in normal windows

#

Went to normal menus

#

Directed myself to the boot options area

#

Pressed restart

worn wave
#

This software should allow you to enable the F8

viral ore
#

oh, so you were already there

wanton cliff
#

No signal to monitor, PC turns off

viral ore
worn wave
#

The free version is pretty good

#

it has a crap ton of tools and optimizations

#

$40 for the paid version though

viral ore
#

thats what I typically do anyway

wanton cliff
#

Ah well

#

Alright

#

Prefer to do it in safe mode because of obvious reasons

viral ore
#

I gotta get back to packing up, I'm moving back to college campus in a few hours vibe

wanton cliff
stoic island
#

Kitty

wanton cliff
#

Vibe cat

#

Why the hell am I getting a DRAM light, I just booted fine 2 minutes ago

worn wave
#

Reseat RAM?

wanton cliff
#

Done, still getting the light

#

You can get DRAM lights because of the IMC, right?

civic tusk
#

what have you changed since it stopped working

uncut pelican
wanton cliff
#

Tried single channel, still getting light

wanton cliff
#

He took it out properly too

civic tusk
#

Have you tried a cmos reset yet

wanton cliff
#

No

#

Doing one now

wanton cliff
#

A couple friends have had both 2080Tis and RX 6800s

civic tusk
#

All other benchmarks show the 6800 outperforms the 3070/2080ti

wanton cliff
#

RX 6800 underperformed in everything

#

Odd then

little osprey
#

amd benchmarks uh

civic tusk
#

Obviously will depend on game

earnest olive
#

what resolution tested?

blazing aurora
#

how is the 6800xt relative to the 3070?

earnest olive
#

rx 6000 series performs better at lower resolutions

little osprey
#

amd benchmarks results are just numbers

earnest olive
#

usually loses at 4K

civic tusk
#

yep

earnest olive
#

infinity cache miss rate gets higher at higher resolutions

civic tusk
#

Nobody uses amd or nvidias own numbers lol

wanton cliff
#

We tried 4K and 2K in most games

#

And by most I mean all the ones shown in the AMD benchmarks

little osprey
civic tusk
#

4k it kinda makes sense but at 1440p the 6800 should quite alot outperform the 3070

earnest olive
#

too bad the 6800 is priced like a 3080

civic tusk
#

Well when it at msrp anyway

#

All prices are wack right now

earnest olive
#

aib msrp markup on radeon cards are much higher

civic tusk
#

don't get aib then

earnest olive
#

reference cards barely exist

civic tusk
#

founders is good on the 6800 and 6800xt

#

Gpu's barely exist

earnest olive
#

fair

civic tusk
#

Just how bad it is

earnest olive
#

nvidia stock is a lot better though

#

i tried to buy a 6800xt for a while

#

gave up and got a 3080 for under msrp

potent portal
#

Everything is higher due to tariffs, I'm waiting for the repeal that's no doubt incoming

civic tusk
#

Oh yeah don't have as much demand on them as TSMC

earnest olive
#

amd is spread too thin

#

#1 priority is consoles

#

and then cpu has higher profit margin than gpu

#

so they have little incentive to mass produce navi 21

civic tusk
#

Yep just gets pushed to the back of the queue

#

That's why we have no sight of 6700xt coming any time soon

earnest olive
#

people were complaining about ampere being on samsung 8nm instead of tsmc 7nm

#

imagine how much worse things would be if ampere was also fighting for tsmc 7nm

civic tusk
#

Pffft

#

literal chaos

fossil halo
#

i mean isnt amd looking to outsource production to samsung now ROFLEgg

earnest olive
#

i believed frank azor when he said stock would be better than ampere

#

i bought a custom engraved gpu stand with a radeon logo on it to support my 6800xt

#

ended up reselling it to my friend with a 5600xt

#

LUL

#

kinda feel like a clown

#

but whatever i lost $3

fossil halo
#

xD

#

i mean

civic tusk
#

No great loss then

fossil halo
#

gt 710

earnest olive
#

in hindsight very glad i went nvidia

#

my 3080 is quickly paying for itself mining eth

fossil halo
earnest olive
#

that gddr6x is insane

fossil halo
#

G T 1 0 1 0

earnest olive
#

i paid $770 for the card

#

and it makes $7/day back

#

mining while gaming

#

would be $10/day if i didn't game on it

#

but i bought it to game so...

full atlas
#

How badly would cooling on a hyper 212 evo be affected if I painted the top of the top fin, and top of heatpipes???

#

(Before you say better cooler it’s Bc I can get one for free)

earnest olive
#

depends on what kind of paint you use

full atlas
#

What types can I use that wouldn’t suck?

earnest olive
#

if you're only painting the top it shouldn't be a big deal

#

but definitely only paint the topmost fin

#

paint can be a heat insulator so you want to be careful not to get it on the other fins

full atlas
#

Ye it’s only the top of it, I’ll cover everything else with painters tape

earnest olive
#

just regular acrylic paint should be fine for painting only the top

full atlas
#

Ok

#

Well it’s either that or I use a wraith spire copper core. It’s for a 2700x

earnest olive
#

from experience on a 3600x

#

wraith spire full aluminum and hyper 212 have similar cooling performance

#

but the wraith spire is significantly louder

#

not sure how well the wraith spire copper core will do comparatively

full atlas
#

My dads 3600x ran really hot on his spire aluminum with stock paste. I repasted it for him and it went for like 95c running r20 to 86c. (The paste had dried)

earnest olive
#

95C running R20?

#

may have been a bad mount

full atlas
#

It didn’t look bad from what I could tell

earnest olive
#

i recall my 3600X running at 70-75C on both coolers in R20

#

R20 is not that heavy of a load

#

i've since upgraded though so i can't verify

#

PBO scalar 10x, fan speed around 60%

full atlas
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But the thermal paste dried and the cooler and cpu were stick so I had to twist it.... I hit a capacitor lol. But it was fine

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My pc has a 3600 and a 24$ aioKEKF

earnest olive
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i upgraded to a 360mm aio anticipating to upgrade my 3600x to a 5800x

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but after getting my 3080 i found that it was not being meaningfully bottlenecked by the 3600x at 1440p

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so now i have a cooler that cost almost as much as my cpu

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got the 3600x for $143, cooler was $130

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but i value aesthetics and acoustics so it's all good

full atlas
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Oh thats good

earnest olive
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pc is whisper quiet when i want it to be

full atlas
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I paid 180$ for my cpu (this was including tax 168$ before), and my 24$ aio is the rosewill pb240 and I’m using p12s for my fans

earnest olive
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silverstone pf360-argb

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i got a 3600 later for a customer that was a better sample than my 3600x

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lol

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was debating giving him a "free upgrade to a 3600x"

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Did you get ur 3600x new or used? Just wondering

earnest olive
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new

full atlas
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Oh that’s a really good deal then

earnest olive
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my 3600x does 4.2ghz all core, that 3600 did 4.4ghz all core

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Voltages?

earnest olive
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was able to pass cinebench at almost 4.6ghz all core lol

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1.25V on the 3600X, 1.3V on the 3600

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both i determined to be the safe maximums for the specific chip

full atlas
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Nice

earnest olive
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so yeah it is still a fair apples to apples comparison despite being different voltages

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because the 3600X is not capable of 1.3V safely

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quite a difference

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4005 on 3600X vs 4181 on 3600

wanton cliff
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I can’t get over your name

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Sips Bleach Seductively

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Makes me laugh every time I see it

idle hawk
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@little osprey which gpu u have?

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and heyo sara

full atlas
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I’m buying a 20$ s340 soonwazowskistare