building-and-recc-chat

[desert gulch]

Role

Vintage has

Like a mod but new one

Yeah kinda

[muted patio]

For 1080P all you really need is a 3060TI

So yeah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZKhZZ

WIth your 32 GB of ram lol

[little osprey]

Would I be able to take life insurance out on my kids? I want to buy a gigabyte psu

and a 3090

[muted patio]

and 5 TB of storage

[little osprey]

damn 5tb

[muted patio]

Lol

I have like 18 TB in mine

XD

[little osprey]

ouch

[muted patio]

Wife is a photog though

[little osprey]

thats an omega oof its a 10tb drive

[muted patio]

Backups of backups

[balmy patio]

storage woman would just make us feel like minorities with our tweeny bits of storage

[muted patio]

IKR

Lili is nuts

[little osprey]

Let me guess. Your pet [REDACTED] inside [REDACTED] near [REDACTED]

[muted patio]

▶️ 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

[balmy patio]

hahahahah

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

Hopefully ghosty don't see

[balmy patio]

never knew rule 9 applied to that

ghosty is watching

hey lol

[muted patio]

because I won't give you a timeout?

Nah, I didn't mess up

Have a good night

[balmy patio]

and just like that 😳

[sullen spoke]

-_-

[muted patio]

I tried

They didn't listen

Spamming gifs faster than I could delete -_-

[balmy patio]

just delete faster smh

[muted patio]

I deleted 12 at a whack lol

[quaint orchid]

https://www.newegg.ca/cooler-master-v750-sfx-gold-mpy-7501-sfhagv-us-750w/p/N82E16817171171
Have this case, looking to get white pin connectors
which will fit or will reg atx cables fit ?
nit case, meant psu...sorry
not**

[muted patio]

Like, white cable extensions?

[quaint orchid]

yes

[muted patio]

I'm having a hard time finding white cables for the CV

Still looking

[mental steeple]

yes any extensions will fit, but not any cables. you need cables designed for your specific model of power supply

[little osprey]

https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-cm-series-modflex-cable-kit-for-cooler-master-v750-v650-v550-black-yellow/

I found these

[little osprey]

https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-cm-series-vs-550650750-modflex-cable-kit-white/

try these

Top one is yellow

bottom is white

[muted patio]

Can't find cables specific to that PSU. Going to have to use extensions if you want white cables : https://www.amazon.com/CableMod-Classic-ModMesh-Cable-Extension/dp/B08GJPPBJ9/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=white+cable+extensions&qid=1612503457&sr=8-9

[dire hatch]

[placid horizon]

thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vcwqQD

[little osprey]

Change the thermal take psu out

go for a more known m.2

[autumn wolf]

why 32gb ram, do 16gb instead unless you actually do need 32gb for something else other than gaming, swap out the nvme for a better one since that one is dramless iirc. better psu would be better, not wattage wise but just a better psu in general. could go for a cheaper/better case like a phanteks p400a

gpu. $600 quite a bit for a 1660 super unless you have one for cheaper or already have one

[quaint orchid]

Will this fit the sfx coolmaster v750gold?

[muted patio]

yes but they don't have them in their store

I checked

[quaint orchid]

okay, will keep an eye out

thanks guys!

[muted patio]

I also checked Amazon

and Newegg

I don't think they make them anymore

[quaint orchid]

I'm from Toronto

[muted patio]

I think you'll have to use Extensions

Ah

Here, this is the part number for the kit: CM-CV2-FKIT-KW-R

[quaint orchid]

Thank you so much!

[tawdry star]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7dhQLP

Hello!, I am trying to build my first pc but I am unsure of several details, I would like your help if possible in some quick questions if it is not much to ask

1.How does newegg handles warranties?, I am in Mexico and I would like to ask if there is a possibility to have extended warranties

2. Is there anything in the build that I should improve?, I have my second doubts about the motherboard but since I am on a budget there is also limits on what I can exchange

3. If something arrives faulty will it cost more (in total) to send back the equipment than to get someone in the states to build the pc and shipp it?

3.1 Do any of you know anyone who could build the pc for me and then shipp that to Mexico (Obviously I would pay for the services and shipping)

[pliant lake]

Get a 10400 or 3400G instead of a 1600

[potent portal]

Stock cooler is perfectly acceptable for non-X chips. I'd use that extra money to get a better gpu.

You can message @fresh garden for your warranty and return questions

[tawdry star]

Oh, ty!, quick question, what does "non X-chips" means?

[tawdry star]

I kinda got a little in love with the 3400g

So, also ty for that!

[potent portal]

Like the 1600 vs 1600X
The X chips clock higher and generally use more power, therefore put out more heat

More heat means a stronger cooler is needed. But the stock cooler is fine for those lower power models.

Happy to help 😉

[desert gulch]

@potent portal also, the x variant will come factory overclocked, and usually come with a better cooler

[potent portal]

Eh, sometimes it does. Depends on the specific model.

[desert gulch]

@rigid carbon did you get an amd reference card in your new build?

[hollow grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/lcxcwu/meta_newegg_bait_and_switch_with_their_shuffle_999/

[rigid carbon]

No it shouldn’t be

[rigid carbon]

How do you check if it is or isn’t one? From what I heard it runs hotter and I don’t have that

[deft bison]

Was almost done with my build, THEN BOOM, mcdonald's made me quit

[jade mountain]

upgrading from a x370 mobo to a b550 tomahawk, considering gpu prices are still crazy what should i upgrade too? i currently have a r5 1500x

[compact pebble]

Does someone have a good build for $650

[vapid bay]

this is lower than $650 (converted from my currency), but see if your money can go for a larger storage capacity (mp34 512gb or mp34 256gb+wd blue 1tb depending on how much storage u need). the mobo too u can try and check if u can fit a b460 mobo on ur budget

didn't put a case coz u can't buy it in other countries from what i remember

change the fans to 2-3 120mm if the case you're gonna buy can't fit a 140mm front intakes

then 1-2 exhaust on top and rear idk

[little osprey]

hmm

[vapid bay]

hmmm

[little osprey]

Picking up an evga xc 2070 S later tonight

Almost went msi gaming Z, but it was the regular 2070

for how much ?

[vapid bay]

lmao i wanna take that asus tuf b460m-plus lol it's so out of budget

[little osprey]

technically free

nice

Yeah selling someone my old gou, using that money to buy the evga

[blazing aurora]

2070 super is a great card

[tall mantle]

@hoary current I was actually wondering how that Gamdias AIO was performing for you because I like most of their product lineup and was thinking about getting one of their AIO's

[little osprey]

Sold a 5700xt for it

[blazing aurora]

nice

[drifting garnet]

Hello

[drifting garnet]

What is better than the 5500xt for a similar price?

[vapid bay]

a GTX 1650 super ig

or 1660

[ornate solstice]

1650s or rx580

[vapid bay]

idk the current price of a 5500xt, but here a msi 5500xt is in the middle of a 1650s and 1660

[ornate solstice]

Also is this a good deal

If I get this I should just upgrade the ram right?

[muted patio]

It's not BAD but you'll need to get a second stick of ram. Running in single channel degrades performance by at least 20-30%

[vapid bay]

prob better if u take a 1650s or 1660 coz they r easier to find and has better perf

oh i just saw

1660 and 5500xt has same msrp?

[ornate solstice]

So get it and upgrade ram?

Or

[muted patio]

if you don't want to build one, yes

[ornate solstice]

I can’t afford to build one rn the prices for gpus are to high

[muted patio]

Ya, I get that

1650S is slightly better

but not by much

[vapid bay]

u can build for $600 too

intel is the new budget option

[ornate solstice]

Not with new parts tho

[muted patio]

Everything but the GPU yeah

[ornate solstice]

If you can make me a $600 build that’d be great

[vapid bay]

my canvas is on new parts idk bout the shops there lol

[muted patio]

that's gonna be hard to do with a GPU

and a 3600

[ornate solstice]

Exactly why I chose to just buy a prebuilt

[muted patio]

Yep

[languid nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/wXMLsY#

[muted patio]

Like I said, get an extra stick of ram for Dual Channel and it'll be fine

[languid nimbus]

Mr1111 built one

[muted patio]

Heh,

the 3600 wrecks the 10100 tho

[ornate solstice]

Usually I’m against prebuilt but rn is fine

[languid nimbus]

Yeah definitely

[vapid bay]

hope i could find a palit 1650s instead of a gigabyte 1650s lol

[languid nimbus]

I think 10100 was on sale for like $80 though lol

3600 still $200?

[muted patio]

OH yeah for sure

Yep

[languid nimbus]

Rip

Probably one of the the most popular cpu out there though

[ornate solstice]

Ima just buy the prebuilt from bestbuy and upgrade the ram

[muted patio]

Yeah it's honestly decent for the price

[ornate solstice]

Ok thank you guys for the help

[muted patio]

YW

[vapid bay]

hope prebuilts here actually use proper part picking lol

[ornate solstice]

Also I should mention this pc is for my friend he wanted to build a pc with the same parts as mine and I told home my pc is way out of his budget

[languid nimbus]

yup

[muted patio]

Yeah just grab another stick of ram, it'll do fine at 1080p

[vapid bay]

my canvas was $876 lol that acer eg220q tempted me

idk how acer tn panel would look tho

[ornate solstice]

So my pc doesn’t have Bluetooth do I have to buy a usb Bluetooth adapter?

Or is there something else I can get

[plain vortex]

Heyo

[balmy patio]

you can buy one, you can also buy a pci express one that also comes with wifi

but in order to have it use bluetooth, you need a usb header, and if you don't have an extra one on ur mobo, usb is the way to go

[ornate solstice]

Which one would be better?

Wait a usb header?

Oh wait I searched it up I know what that is now

Looks like I’m getting a usb one cause no extra headers

[balmy patio]

seems good

[plain vortex]

Can I ask you guys about my setup

[balmy patio]

go ahead

just ask, don't ask to ask

[plain vortex]

So it's a ryzen 3400g, 860 500gb ssd, 2x8 3200mhz, a d3sh wifi board, 450 evga psu, and a deepcool matrexx 30 case

[balmy patio]

nice

[plain vortex]

Is it?

[muted patio]

no gpu?

[plain vortex]

It's integrated

[muted patio]

Ah

Yeah, just add a GPU and good to go then

[plain vortex]

Couldn't fit one in my budget with inflated prices, and my friend said it'd be fine for video editing

I have an Xbox for games

[balmy patio]

ah i see

[muted patio]

Mmmm, little lackluster for editing videos but it'll do all right

[fossil halo]

good morning build chat

[uncut pelican]

Gm

Hru today

[little osprey]

GM

[fossil halo]

im doing well today, how about you

just starting a new project in business class

[little osprey]

Hi. Pretty new to Discord. Want to get a new PC to go with MS Flight Sim 2020. Looked at build vs buy and think I can get what I want off the shelf. But wanted some input if anyone has any.

[still bay]

what is your budget

and what kinda like fps were u expecting and like what monitor do u have

[little osprey]

2 22" HDMI HP monitors. Wife is expecting $1,000. I can go higher if I need to, but would like to not top out over $1,500 unless I just can't get what I want. I looked at Tom's Hardware on reviews for FPS. I haven't played enough to know what a good experience is. But it sounds like 30 is a good experience with set on Medium environment in the sim.

[still bay]

yeah ms flight sim i think 30-60 is about right

[little osprey]

There's no way to consistently get 60 on Ultra 4k, but I am not expecting that anyway.

[fossil halo]

gosh

mfs is very very very demanding

[little osprey]

It's running on my 2012 rig right now.

It is so slow loading, but I just got it, flight yoke, and throttle quadrant.

[fossil halo]

i think

[still bay]

what dop u have in that

[little osprey]

Sorry...don't know what dop means. Is that the GPU?

[still bay]

do*

ive got an alternative for u to invest ur 1k into, a Viktus Styrka or 2 mode80s

lol

[little osprey]

intel q6600. 8GB Ram. Had to replace the GPU a couple of years ago - will have to look it up. 150GB SSD. 750 GB HDD.

[still bay]

or u could buy like 20 mercutio

[still bay]

oh so ur chugging along here

[little osprey]

LOL - I don't even know what those are.

[still bay]

the Viktus Styrka is a 725 keyboard, mode80 is a 80% which is 500 dollars

mercutio is a 40% which is 55

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110661.0

not that i recommend that

well i do but im guessing ur not into keyboards so stick with the pc for now

if the wife doesnt want u spending alot definitely dont get into keyboards

definition of a money dump

[crimson flame]

Does the Lian Li O11 Dynamic MINI only support Small Form Factor PSUs? If so, are there any around $100 for 650W?'

[little osprey]

Wow, I didn't even know they did that much customization to keyboards.

[still bay]

ye, sfx psu's only

[still bay]

yeah theres a lot to it

[crimson flame]

any recommendations for a 650w one?

[still bay]

no sorry, im not into pcs anymore that much, im more into keyboards

i mean i am but i dont know like a 650w sfx psu

try superflower maybe

[still bay]

but so i recommend that u... wait for someone else to respond lol

because idk a whole lot about flight sim

[little osprey]

Okay. Thanks.

[crimson flame]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf600-600w/p/N82E16817139155?Description=Power Supply&cm_re=Power_Supply-_-17-139-155-_-Product does this work?

[still bay]

should

make sure 600w is enough

[still bay]

between u and me, spend the 1k on gmk keycap sets, then like a year later resell them for 2x the amount u bought them for

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-650f14hg-650w/p/1HU-024C-00007

few people recommended this one before @crimson flame

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-bronze-sf-850r14he-850w/p/1HU-024C-00019?Item=9SIAMNPBYM0758&cm_mmc=snc-twitter-hot-deals-_-ASP-_-9SIAMNPBYM0758-_-02042021

actually theres perfect deal

[still bay]

thast ones good

[crimson flame]

Is the 850w one good? Seems odd that the price is the same as the 650w

[little osprey]

its on sale today xd

[crimson flame]

RIP I'll have to buy it today then LOL

[little osprey]

@muted patio is master about psus ig get his guess too

[muted patio]

Segotep SPP for a budget 650W

[little osprey]

hows last one i sent 🤔

[muted patio]

leadex bronze isn't as good as the gold but it will work. Do they need 850W?

[crimson flame]

Only need 650w

[muted patio]

Or just 650

[still bay]

superflower is great

[little osprey]

650 but 850 is about same price

[muted patio]

https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8

[crimson flame]

I need SFX

[muted patio]

oooooo

k

[little osprey]

i got gigabyte boom with 3070 combo lol 😂

[crimson flame]

So what is a good SFX option? Looking to only spend around $100

[muted patio]

Yeah, I'm looking

They're few and far between

and also pricey

The good ones I'm seeing are $125 for 650W

[crimson flame]

Yeah
Best I've found was the Corsair SF600 which is $105 on newegg

[little osprey]

too much 🤔

[muted patio]

SF gold?

[little osprey]

what about evga psus 🤔

[muted patio]

Most of those are middling at best

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-650-b5-220-b5-0650-v1-650w/p/N82E16817438166 🤔

[muted patio]

that's not SFX tho

Small Form Factor

[little osprey]

oh

sry

[muted patio]

Seems like that Corsair is the best bet TBH

Everything else good is $125+

[crimson flame]

If I weren't to go small form factor was this one good? https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-bronze-sf-850r14he-850w/p/1HU-024C-00019?Item=9SIAMNPBYM0758&cm_mmc=snc-twitter-hot-deals-_-ASP-_-9SIAMNPBYM0758-_-02042021

[little osprey]

looks like good deal

[fossil halo]

o11d needs sfx psu

o11d mini

[crimson flame]

ik
still trying to plan out/budget my upgrades
since the o11d and the o11 are the same price

[drifting garnet]

wtf is superflower lol

[potent portal]

Generally decent brand

[still bay]

very good brand

a lot of the psu's u see are just rebranded superflowers

very popular in like asia

[drifting garnet]

huh

[still bay]

they just dont have much marketing in america it seems

[drifting garnet]

yeah never heard of it

[still bay]

evga rebrands superflower

[lone trellis]

yo i found a pc build that includes a rtx 3060 ti 8gb card https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY2XZZ

[still bay]

used to be literally only a oem

but now they are entering the na market

[drifting garnet]

Is 10400 or 3600 better for multicore? I heard that the 3600 is better but now people are telling me it is the 10400.

[little osprey]

3600

[potent portal]

Roughly the same but 3600 by a few %

[crimson flame]

Can I turn my SYS_1 into 2 with an adapter and then power 6 fans with SATA power fan controller?
Like, turn SYS_1 fan header into 2 with a splitter, put one 3-fan controller on one and another, and then make them light up and power with a SATA connection?

[fathom obsidian]

what is the ideal storage options for a new gaming build ....pcie & HDD for storage ? or sata ssd / pcie ?

[crimson flame]

imo ssd for boot drive hdd for mass game storage

[fathom obsidian]

like sata ssd?

[potent portal]

Yes but be careful not to overload your motherboard power delivery

[crimson flame]

or m.2/nvme
nvme is faster
both work

[crimson flame]

how would i avoid that

[potent portal]

The exact numbers vary by brand and model

[crimson flame]

What should I look for? I use an MSI B450m Pro-M2

[fathom obsidian]

so like nvme 2tb & 8tb hdd?

[crimson flame]

that works
nvme is expensive so if it's only boot drive and your most used programs it's safe to go 1tb

[little osprey]

I use a 256 gb nvme for OS and 6tb ssd for games

*multiple ssd's for the 6tb btw

[potent portal]

Should be good but watch out for power instability. You can test it by ramping the fans up to 100% and watch voltages

[crimson flame]

Could it kill the mobo?
How long should I watch it for?

[little osprey]

I'm think of upgrading the 256 to a 512

[potent portal]

It shouldn't cause any damage, there's too many safeties in play

just 10 minutes or so

[crimson flame]

what's a safe voltage

[potent portal]

It just needs to stay stable. It should be the 5V and shouldn't droop too far down

[crimson flame]

so if it stays around 5v and doesn't dip it should be fine
can it exceed 5v?

[fathom obsidian]

and what would you recommend for cooling ? aio or air for rtx 3090 ?

[crimson flame]

what cpu do you have/plan on?
it's really preference
AIO is quiter, slightly better performance but with more potential failure points
Air you is bulky and unattractive but no failure points and large Noctua fans cool super well

[fathom obsidian]

10900k

[potent portal]

A little over 5V is normal
As long as it doesn't droop below around 4.9

[main wind]

So i am debationg as to if i should upgrade my gpu or not i recently got a ryzen 7 3700x and its working amazing

I just dont know if the upgrade would be worth it or not

[desert gulch]

You check just by looks, you didn't specify which 5700xt you got in #build-pics , so was kinda worried for a sec lol

Looks like that

[gusty abyss]

I love that reference design so much

"take a brick and hit it with a hammer"

[desert gulch]

lol yeah

maybe they got mad and hit it after they saw its cooling performance, and it shut down on them

lol fr tho prolly for that blower fan, to make it easier

[solemn narwhal]

Hello everyone.

Can anyone tell me if G.SKILL Trident Z Neo r

RAM would work in my Alienware Aurora 11?

[desert gulch]

well are they both ddr4?

and does the alienware pc motherboard support the amount of ram you want to get?

and speed?

[solemn narwhal]

Right now I have 8GB HyperX™ FURY DDR4 XMP at 2933MHz

but only one filled slot

and I couldn't locate another one of those so I was looking at switching.

Replacing both, so I wouldn't mix types

[desert gulch]

how much ram you want?

16 total

?

[solemn narwhal]

Yeah

[severe jacinth]

u could just get another 8gb stick of the same kind

[desert gulch]

they said they couldnt find it

[severe jacinth]

is it not on amazon?

[solemn narwhal]

I was having trouble locating one of those, and Dell doesn't actually sell it

[severe jacinth]

https://www.amazon.ca/HyperX-Fury-2666MHz-1Rx8-Black/dp/B07WD5VKTS

oops

thats 2666

[desert gulch]

yeah

[solemn narwhal]

Yeah, I could find different MHz but not the same as the one I have

[severe jacinth]

yikes deals on amazon for ram suck

[desert gulch]

yup

[solemn narwhal]

Yep

New Egg has far better prices

[severe jacinth]

^

[desert gulch]

i just dont know how high of speed that mobo can support

so may be worth going 2933

[solemn narwhal]

Hmmm

[desert gulch]

intel in it?

[solemn narwhal]

I just looked it up and it says it can only handle 2933

[desert gulch]

okay

it can support 16 gigs tho?

[solemn narwhal]

Unless it's just regurgitating the native specs

[desert gulch]

hmm

[severe jacinth]

i mean im pretty sure the aurora r11 can have 16gbs in customizing

so it prolly can support 16gb

[desert gulch]

yeah no point in having at least 2 ram slots to only support 8 gigs

[severe jacinth]

true

[solemn narwhal]

So the things that I'm looking for are DD4 and 2933 MHz for it to work in my rig?

[severe jacinth]

and dimensions

[solemn narwhal]

They're different sizes too?

[severe jacinth]

make sure the ram doesnt have a huge heatsink

[solemn narwhal]

This is far more complicated than I imagined it would be 🙂

[severe jacinth]

some OLOy ram has a huge heatspreader

[sinful hornet]

the warhawk

[solemn narwhal]

If I call the manufacturers directly do you think they'd have an answer for me?

[sinful hornet]

also, why only 2933?

[severe jacinth]

its intel

[sinful hornet]

is that the highest the board/cpu supports?

[severe jacinth]

u dont really need that fast ram

[sinful hornet]

what

faster ram is always going to help

[solemn narwhal]

Whoops it says up to 3400

[sinful hornet]

3200 i'd say is the standard now

[severe jacinth]

in terms of gaming performance it doesnt really matter for some intel cpu's

[sinful hornet]

sure, but at this point 2933 really isnt that much cheaper than 3200 from what i've seen at least

[severe jacinth]

true

but its a prebuilt so

[sinful hornet]

and its not like faster ram is going to be worse

[solemn narwhal]

I haven't been super happy with the rig so far. I keep getting 100% CPU spikes, and with no games running my RAM is at a steady 45%

[sinful hornet]

what cpu?

[severe jacinth]

yeah in pc secret shopper linus noticed that the alienware prebuilt used 4gb of ram on idle

[solemn narwhal]

10th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 10400F

[severe jacinth]

they found out it was a problem with the preloaded os

[solemn narwhal]

What is your opinion on the "Command center" they put in there?

[severe jacinth]

oh yeah

oh yeah

bob did u see pc secret shopper season 1

the command center is a bit useless but it doesnt hurt to have it there

[buoyant trench]

CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX WHITE, 240mm Radiator, Liquid CPU Cooler, White or the corsair hydro series h100i 240mm ? which one is better?

[severe jacinth]

eh

[sinful hornet]

i mean, both are expensive when it comes to AIO's

[severe jacinth]

nzxt kraken is pretty good

[sinful hornet]

and not the best

wot

[severe jacinth]

wat

[buoyant trench]

but between the two

cuz not sure if i can fit the kraken in my case

[severe jacinth]

whatever looks the best to u

[buoyant trench]

is there a white version of the kraken?

[solemn narwhal]

Thanks guys, gotta go.

[sinful hornet]

nonono, no kraken

[severe jacinth]

ok den

[sinful hornet]

kraken has very bad price-perf

[severe jacinth]

eh

[sinful hornet]

best aio reviewed so far is the arctic liquid freezer II

[buoyant trench]

thing is im only looking for white parts

[severe jacinth]

ooo i built a pc like that once

but do u need a liquid cooler?

[sinful hornet]

theres the lian li galahad white

[desert gulch]

@buoyant trench what cpu is it for?

[buoyant trench]

i bought the corsair hydro series already but i heard the capellix came out so i was wondering what the diff is lol

[desert gulch]

what cpu

[severe jacinth]

there prolly not enough of a dif to change aio's

[buoyant trench]

intel i7 8700k

3.7 ghz

[desert gulch]

could def go air cooling

[severe jacinth]

but if u already got a nice white aio theres no need to swap

[buoyant trench]

ur right

[desert gulch]

yeah if you already got aio just use it

[buoyant trench]

thanks yall

[severe jacinth]

kk

[buoyant trench]

just needed other opinions lol i dont know much about this stuff

[desert gulch]

yeah if going for all white idk how many all white air coolers you can find

and they kinda bulky if going for a super clean build

[buoyant trench]

yeah and i also have the corsair case n it seems small..

Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow CC-9011174-WW White Steel / Plastic / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

this is the case

[desert gulch]

ehh yeah not huge

not as big as the o11 lol

[buoyant trench]

yeah that one is huge

[woven sinew]

Should i switch to keyboard or controller?

[desert gulch]

whatever your preference is

[quasi snow]

if you already have one I'd recommend both

I play first person stuff with mkb and third person stuff with controller

[woven sinew]

k thanks

[olive mason]

I had that one for about 1 month and hated it beyond belief.

It was just really hard to work in.

[desert gulch]

well you only need to build in it once lol

build it, shut it, and never have to worry about it for a while until next upgrade

[potent portal]

page not found, is it public?

[balmy patio]

same

[somber knot]

huh weird one sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ptddz7

Is that one work

[potent portal]

Looks good to me

[somber knot]

ok thanks

[worn wave]

H510 has pretty bad airflow, I would highly recommend getting a P400A, Lancool II Mesh, Meshify C instead.

They may be a little more but the build quality and airflow are really worth it.

[somber knot]

Ok

[worn wave]

You could save money by getting a good air cooler because you really don't need a AIO for a 3600.

Unless you are planning to upgrade soon.

[somber knot]

Ok

[balmy patio]

tbh as a showcase pc, it looks fine

lemme make sum changes rq, i'll explain why i made them if you need to

[somber knot]

Ok

[balmy patio]

wait how were you planning on getting the 2070s?

if you were gonna get one used, might as well wait for a 3060, should be around the same price ~360-400 bucks as a used 2070s

if you're willing to wait for the b560 chipset, and a 3060/ti get this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXP8Cz deleted the monitor cuz you can choose one on your own @somber knot

[somber knot]

ok and was probably gonna get one used but I might wait for a 3060 like you said

[balmy patio]

yeah, the b560 chipset for intel would also be nice, instead of getting a z490 mobo

since i only put it there for the memory oc, and well b560 will have that in the future

[desert gulch]

is that psu good?

what tier is it?

prolly wanna get at least b tier

[balmy patio]

it is b

[worn wave]

Super Flower

[desert gulch]

ok

super flower not needed

tbh

[lone trellis]

ok guys since now im alble to get a pc under 1.4k anny reccomendations

[worn wave]

Is it for just gaming?

[lone trellis]

gaming streaming

[worn wave]

Do you want RGB?

[somber knot]

RGB is nesceary lol

[lone trellis]

it really doesnt matter

[balmy patio]

and do you have any preference on the case/aesthetic

fair enough

[lone trellis]

no

and i dont really care if i have to wait for the graphics card

[desert gulch]

ok

could def go with a nice 5600x and 3070 build

[lone trellis]

can you send me a part picker list

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BRzXW3 sorry it took me a while, i'll put an amd counterpart rn

[lone trellis]

ok thanks

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2cRwK3 - the amd one

[lone trellis]

ok thanks

[fossil halo]

imagine

#build-pics message

intel new stock cooler

[balmy patio]

at least it's not ugly

tho the one that comes with the 10700 ain't that bad

[little osprey]

yeah 10700 and 10900 one looks little better lol

[fossil halo]

hold up

[fossil halo]

still dog compared to the amd base cooler

not even comparable to wraith prism

[worn wave]

Oh for sure, but it does look better.

[balmy patio]

^

[fossil halo]

better than absolute ass

LMFAO

[balmy patio]

man but the mounting solution on the intel one

dang you feel like you're breaking the motherboard

[fossil halo]

LOL faxx

[worn wave]

That mounting solution breaks way too much in my experience.

[fossil halo]

amd better in every way 😤 💪

in two comparable processors

10700 and the 5800x

10700k*

[balmy patio]

the price difference tho

[fossil halo]

ture

true

and 5800x doesnt come with a cooler 🤣

[balmy patio]

man hold up

remember this guy?

[fossil halo]

wait was that real

i saw that as a meme

but im not sure

i actually have a pentium stock cooler

[rich helm]

I think it is

[fossil halo]

not sure which pentium actually

[lone trellis]

@balmy patio can you resend me the list its showing only from bestbuy

[rigid oracle]

alright this will seem dumb, this is not a joke but please bare with me here. does anyone have a good cheap borderline gaming PC build, preferably around 300 dollars?

i just need somewhere to start

and at the moment 300 dollars would be my budget

maybe 400 dollars

[balmy patio]

you probably have pcpartpicker set to only show best buy prices

[lone trellis]

how do i change that

i fixed it

[gusty abyss]

for that budget get a used dell optiplex and throw an rx 570 in it

[balmy patio]

made this brand new https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzjRy4

[fossil halo]

wow

ok

send

i wanna see

[balmy patio]

and yeah just buy sum optiplex and put a 1650 innit

[fossil halo]

yea no

apu <<<<< rx 570

[gusty abyss]

not really

[balmy patio]

if you're not willing to buy used tho

[fossil halo]

true

[gusty abyss]

especially in an optiplex 🤣

[fossil halo]

i mean

u can get optiplexes for like

100$

[balmy patio]

at such low budget just buy a console

[fossil halo]

with like a i5 3rd or 4th gen

[balmy patio]

and get a simp on a discord server to pay online for you

[rigid oracle]

god but i hate controllers

[balmy patio]

plug a mice and kb innit

[rigid oracle]

not all games support it tho

[fossil halo]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/413286716407737/

buy something like this

and put this in it

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/315582969889885/

maybe

or something more recent

[balmy patio]

what games are you trying to play?

[rigid oracle]

maybe minecraft with some lightweight shaders, team fortress 2 (not too gpu demanding), and doom eternal which might be a stretch

[fossil halo]

doom can run on a calculator

ur fine

[rigid oracle]

oh thank god 😅

[fossil halo]

ull get like 100 fps on max settings 1080[

p

with a 1070

[balmy patio]

doom eternal can run on a switch so you're fine

[winged tinsel]

Is this a problem?

[rigid oracle]

nvidia?

[red canopy]

Hey, so I'm planning a $3000 custom PC that I plan on purchasing within the month and I want to get a general parts list set up. I plan on using the PC for gaming, streaming/recording, video editing, graphic design, and schoolwork. I prefer power over aesthetics (RGB). I plan on using the Ryzen 9 5000 series CPU with a 3080/3090 GPU and air cool with the noctua nh-d15 premium cpu cooler chromax.black. Idk about any of the other parts

[fossil halo]

yessir

[balmy patio]

how much storage would you like to start off with?

[red canopy]

2tb in nvme ssd

[fossil halo]

for 3k you an easily get a way with 2tb+nvme

[red canopy]

if u wanna join a vc i can screen share

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XnHJbh

[verbal quarry]

how good is the G.skill Enki aio?

im looking at the 240mm rad

[fossil halo]

i think j2c has a video on it

watch that

[verbal quarry]

ill have a look

thanks

[vivid thorn]

boys my internet is capped at 100 and i should be getting 1000, any ideas?

[ripe wedge]

could be the cable

@vivid thorn what cat is the ethernet cable

[vivid thorn]

my brother pc works fine on my cable

its cat 7

my idea is something happened in the bios

the setting maxes out at 100 full duplex and theres no option for 1.0 gpbs full duplex

[ripe wedge]

or you need drivers

[vivid thorn]

all my drivers are dully udated

[ripe wedge]

ah

[vivid thorn]

ive even tried 3 diff bios versions but nothing

[ripe wedge]

have you tried a different ethernet cable?

[pliant lake]

i would get something similar to this. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4HqQD

[ripe wedge]

asrock mobo gross

no

also where is the ssd

lol

[vivid thorn]

yeah id go x570 no question

and 2tb or more of nvme

no need for any hard drives at all at that price

[pliant lake]

i forgot about the ssd, get a 980 pro, or 970 Evo Plus

[ripe wedge]

get an asus x570 mobo

[vivid thorn]

no hard drives at all imo

[ripe wedge]

the hard drive is ok if he needs mass storage

[vivid thorn]

anyways

back to my problem

[ripe wedge]

which would be good for videos and stuff

yeah

try a different cable

if you havent already

[vivid thorn]

i can in like 30 mins

why would bios not show up with 1.0 gbps tho?

and only 100

[winged tinsel]

Is this bad?

[ripe wedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NVjRy4 fixed the list

[ripe wedge]

thats fine

wait

actually

click on it and read what it says

like in properties

[winged tinsel]

Ok

[ripe wedge]

not sure

[winged tinsel]

^

[ripe wedge]

try and hit update drivers

[winged tinsel]

Ok. Do I need to do that for all of the “PCI Device” things? Because there are 4 there that have those exclamation points by them

[ripe wedge]

maybe if hitting update drivers fixes them,

what issues were you running into before?

[winged tinsel]

While gaming my pc will reboot out of knowhere then while booting back up it would get stuck with the VGA light on

[ripe wedge]

weird

[winged tinsel]

Yep

Which should I press? @ripe wedge

[ripe wedge]

search automatically

[winged tinsel]

It couldn’t find anything

[ripe wedge]

ah

im not really sure what to do with that

never had that happen before

[winged tinsel]

Could it be motherboard drivers? Because I don’t have those installed

[ripe wedge]

[winged tinsel]

Lmao

[small osprey]

install ur mobo drivers

go to mobo website and install the latest version of everything

[ripe wedge]

^

[small osprey]

it’s probably that @winged tinsel

[winged tinsel]

Ok, will do. Tysm

[small osprey]

np

[vivid thorn]

@ripe wedge so I tried a different cable and it actually worked, I still have no option for 1.0 gbps in bios even though I can get like 830 mbps on desktop. Weird. I'll go recheck my brothers PC in my cable now

[ripe wedge]

ah good

it was probably just a junk cable as I assumed

[red canopy]

4x8 or 2x16 for ram?

[small osprey]

what cpu

[red canopy]

5900x

[small osprey]

4x8 is better

[red canopy]

okay

[small osprey]

but not big difference

[red canopy]

im getting ripjaws 5

are hose good

[ripe wedge]

yeah gamers nexus made a video about it

ripjaws v are great

get 3600C16 if you can

[red canopy]

okay so ripjaws V 3600 speed with cl16 4x8 pack

[small osprey]

ballastix ftw

[ripe wedge]

yeah that would be good

[red canopy]

okie

[ripe wedge]

ballistix are nice but ripjaws are amazing too

[small osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/slicing-cheese-cutting-chopping-ballistix-gif-13279187

[brazen sphinx]

my-

[red canopy]

that video makes me want to kill myself

also whats a good mobo for 5900x and 3080

one with on board wifi6

[rigid oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j7V24d

[small osprey]

uh asus rog strix b550-f gaming wifi

[rigid oracle]

would this be a good beginners gaming pc build

i dont plan on running AAA games

[red canopy]

which is better x570 or b550

i want the best

[small osprey]

x570, but literally no one needs it

and that board is best for zen 3 bc it has bios flashback

[red canopy]

crosshair formula looks nice

[quasi snow]

@rigid oracle do you have a microcenter near you?

[small osprey]

no

no point

waste of money

[red canopy]

yes

lol

[rigid oracle]

well i live in new york, theres everything here so most likely. why ask?

[red canopy]

okay what is zen 3 flasback

what is the benfit of it

[small osprey]

bios flashback, bc most mobos dont come with the required bios for zen 3 currently

[red canopy]

okay

[small osprey]

it saves you from having to get a cpu from amd just to update bios

[red canopy]

is that the best option i can get

i hear the tuf gaming x570 is really good too

[small osprey]

no, but its one of the best for not that much money

[small osprey]

wifi 5, no flashback

[red canopy]

oh ok

ill get the b55 f wifi now

[quasi snow]

They have a good deal on an Intel 10100 but if you're not using a graphics card an amd will do better

[red canopy]

is that red on the mobo gonna stay?

its ugly af

[small osprey]

you probably wont even see it

[rigid oracle]

what price?

[red canopy]

i see everything

so does it stay or not

[quasi snow]

I'd still wait for an amd 3200g to be come back in stock that athlon won't be getting much performance

[small osprey]

wdym by stay

the athlon is pretty bad

would wait for a 3200g or 3400g

[rigid oracle]

well can it run doom eternal

[mental steeple]

Dramless NVME drives are completely fine

🥴

Better than pretty much all dram equipped sata drives

MS30 at that price still isn't very good @placid horizon Helix-L is available for the same price.

Actually the team SM30 isn't even NVME 🤦 my apologies

It's SM2258XT sadge

[humble nebula]

so is everyone here waiting for the Ryzen 9 5900x to be in stock?

been tricked several times when the 'out of stock' warning is gone, but then it just gives an error when you click 'add to cart'

screaming insues

[mental steeple]

no im waiting for 3dxpoint to make a comeback in the consumer space

it never even had a come 😔 so how can it have a comeback

[humble nebula]

good thing AMD is not in charge of making a vaccine

[urban totem]

Anyone know of a good mobo for the ryzen 5600x, confused with bios and stuff

[still bay]

Budget?

[urban totem]

Around 250 for the mobo

[worn wave]

B550-F is pretty good

[urban totem]

Around 250

[worn wave]

B550 Tomahawk is also good

[mental steeple]

neither of those are very good options lol

@urban totem not worth overspending, look at the aorus elite (or v2 avariant) or aorus pro (or v2 variant)

basically give you everything the b550-F has for less money.

and b550 tomahawk rear IO leaves a little bit to be desired at its price point

[still bay]

aorus board... nah

get a asus tuf x570

anyone who says otherwise does not know boards

[trim ferry]

whats a great motherboard to pair with a 5800x

[mental steeple]

lol what

are you trolling

🥴

[uneven mist]

gusy

so i installed a gpu in an old Dell system

right power cables and all

when i turned it bacck on it bluescreened

as in :your pc ran into a problem we will restart it for u..

happend 2 times and idk what to do now

it was a nvidia gpu and i changed it to an amd gpu

[wispy lynx]

😐

sir

[uneven mist]

im stuck

@hollow grail u know?

im clueless rn

[celest horizon]

Why don't you guys like the x570 tuf

[potent portal]

DDU is an absolute must moving from one brand to another

[hollow grail]

ddu

[mental steeple]

Like most x570 boards, B550 boards with better componentry in the same price range.

[hollow grail]

[celest horizon]

ah

[mental steeple]

Only reason to buy x570 is for a few niche usecases

Such as actually needing the extra chipset lanes

[celest horizon]

I remember the tuf and the elite being the go-to picks on release for that range

[potent portal]

Removing all traces of old drivers makes sure that there's nothing conflicting

Yeah I'll usually recommend ~$200 X570 Tuf or Aorus

[still bay]

r u?

[uneven mist]

lili i had already DDU

i did that before

lmao im actyuall dumb bc i read the stopcode and it is inaccesible boot device

[potent portal]

Oops. Lol happens to the best of us.

[uneven mist]

but the problem is

how ti fix it..

[potent portal]

For starters, make sure your boot order is correct

Try booting from a CD/USB and see if the drive is accessible

[uneven mist]

its a dell pc..

the only problem

[mental steeple]

X570 tuf is best >anyone disagrees doesnt know motherboards

[uneven mist]

ahhah

[mental steeple]

🥴

diaper brain moment

[little osprey]

o

[still bay]

it literally is? u recommend aorus lmfao

[mental steeple]

LOL how is it better?

Are you going to explain?

Or are you just going to plug your ears and go "la la la la brand BAD"

[still bay]

why are u gonna explain why those asus boards are bad that the original dude recommended?

or are u just gonna impsoe dumb rules when someonme goes against u

[mental steeple]

The B550-F? It's not bad, it's just unimpressive at its pricepoint.

[still bay]

how so then

[mental steeple]

Essentially giving you the same power delivery componentry being used in the Aorus b550 boards for more money?

[uneven mist]

AH YES FIXED IT

[mental steeple]

It's an underwhelming board for a premium.

🤷

Actually B550-F VRM seems to be slightly worse.

[still bay]

and what are u basing this off of? hopefully a vrm rating spreadsheet?

[mental steeple]

Nope, just a spreadsheet that lists the componentry.

There's no tiering to it.

[potent portal]

IMO it comes down to 2 questions:
Do you have the budget to get a better board?
Do you really want to cheap out on the second most important part in the computer?

[mental steeple]

Uh...not really because if the board isn't better and it just costs more money it means nothing.

Spending more money does not always equal getting the better product.

[potent portal]

True, however higher quality products do tend to be more expensive

[mental steeple]

That isn't true in this case.

[still bay]

is the motherboard really 2nd most important?

[mental steeple]

🥴

[potent portal]

Yes the motherboard is second to the power supply

[still bay]

What?

I mean for gaming not at all

For literally nothing is that true actually

[mental steeple]

Motherboards don't directly impact performance.

This is just a value argument

And reliability isn't much of a concern unless you buy something thats complete garbo

[still bay]

Yeah

buy anything that isnt like some smart or rgb psu and u will prob be fine

[mental steeple]

👀

PSUs are a different story

[potent portal]

Yeah I have no idea what a "smart" PSU does different from a regular one lol

[mental steeple]

smart is just a power supply name it doesn't actually mean anything

he's referring to the thermaltake smart line

@still bay Why do you think the b550-F is better?

lol

[potent portal]

More marketing fluff

[mental steeple]

i mean it really is just a product line name

lol

even if we ignore VRM componentry since it's just min-maxing the B550-F is looking kind of lean at $190-200 while the aorus pro is sitting around $170 😩

[potent portal]

Yeah but they specifically picked that name knowing the connotation that is has with newer, actually useful products

IE, Marketing

[mental steeple]

i mean

sure

there are real power supplies with digital control but

those are generally ultra high end and not the el cheapo line that the smart is

[wispy lynx]

its been irrelevant for months

[celest horizon]

well, release was many months ago

[still bay]

i didnt say it was

i was asking u for ur reasoning

i said the asus tuf is better option

[celest horizon]

All things equal, I'd pay a $30 premium for an asus bios over gigabyte

On a $200 level board

[still bay]

much better software

[verbal quarry]

Does anyone know where i can find the ENKI 240mm for sale?

ive looked everywhere and cant find it

i've read articles about it but i cant see it anywhere

[worn wave]

Might not be for sale in the US?

[verbal quarry]

but their 360mm is?

[worn wave]

Oh

Then its just no one has the 240 really

[verbal quarry]

G.skill says their 240mm is sold in the us but i cant find it

huh ok then

[worn wave]

Why do you want the ENKI in specific?

There are many other good 240mm AIOs

[verbal quarry]

ik but i like to have a list

and from what i see it may be cheaper then the h100i and be equal to or better

[worn wave]

EK's AIOs are very good also

[verbal quarry]

but im looking at cost also

[worn wave]

EK-AIO Basic 240 is $90

[verbal quarry]

can you message me the link?

[worn wave]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-basic-240

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-240-d-rgb

$120 for the RGB Version

[verbal quarry]

how good is their rgb?

[desert gulch]

What cpu is it for?

[fossil halo]

wait wth

i was just in the vc for so long

[desert gulch]

Lol

[fossil halo]

i wasnt even at home

[cyan stone]

Hey guys, looking for advice on a server build! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PsrpMv
Please note: Actual motherboard would be an X9DRL-iF, NOT the one listed.
The RAM is also just a stand in for 8 sticks of supermicro verified ECC RAM found here: https://memory.net/product/mem-dr340l-sl05-er13-supermicro-1x-4gb-ddr3-1333-rdimm-pc3-10600r-dual-rank-x4-replacement/
Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

[verbal quarry]

either the 5600x or the 3700x

[worn wave]

You don't really need an AIO

A pretty decent air cooler will do fine

[desert gulch]

Yeah

No aio needed

Mugen 5 is really good

[verbal quarry]

well i was gonna use the stock cooler on a r7 1700 and give it to a friend

[desert gulch]

Aio too expensive for that

Go with air cooling if possible

[verbal quarry]

the idea was to put the stock on a old pc to give it better cooling and buy an aio for my new one i plan on building

[worn wave]

Scythe and Arctic has some awesome coolers

[desert gulch]

You don't need aio for new pc tho

They're somewhat low tdp cpus

[worn wave]

Your really only need an AIO for a high end, high TDP CPU

Also if you want to OC alot

[desert gulch]

Unless you want it to look nicer, go air cooling

[verbal quarry]

well i plan on OC so thats why i was going an aio

[desert gulch]

Most air coolers can support that

[worn wave]

But the CPUs you plan to use don't really need an AIO, it's better to save the money for other parts if you are on a specific budget

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[worn wave]

If you have the money and don't care to save money, get an AIO If you want for whatever reason

[desert gulch]

Ig it looks better

[gritty zenith]

idk who this was for but def go for the RGB if you want max fps

[red canopy]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hCRnK3

please give thoughts

[cyan stone]

Weapons grade unobtainium graphics card - won't be getting that anytime soon lol

[uncut pelican]

I like what I see

[jaunty nacelle]

@little osprey didnt u have a 5700xt before

[little osprey]

I did

Sold it today to buy this

[jaunty nacelle]

why

[little osprey]

Better temps for this and rtx

[red canopy]

thank you

[little osprey]

And this was available whereas 3000 series was not @jaunty nacelle

[quasi snow]

why that psu? it seems really expensive for a build like that

[still bay]

pretty good

[gritty zenith]

ahaha me over here spending $150 on a non modular 600w psu

and still having to replace the fan that it comes with

[little osprey]

Me spending $50 an an Asus rog strix 750w 80+ gold fully modular psu

[gritty zenith]

o yours actually even had a brand name? pog

[little osprey]

Yep

For $50 😁

Brand new

[gritty zenith]

lucky you you can use a standard psu

[little osprey]

Oof

[gritty zenith]

$150 was literally the minimum i had to spend for a compatible psu for my rig, and the insurance i had to pay $20 more for separately n was only 2 yrs and i had to replace the stock fan out the box for another $12

cri

[cyan stone]

Where did you snatch a deal like that?

[gritty zenith]

ikr that is ridiculously cheap

that's like some black friday on crack stuff right there

[cyan stone]

That's like E-waste pricing

Or like 9 year old Xeon e5-2650 pricing

[uneven mist]

lol

[little osprey]

Facebook

Someone ordered it, realized they didn't need it then sold it to me

Was still in the store plastic wrapping around the box itself

@cyan stone @gritty zenith

[gritty zenith]

poggggg

that's how i got my dad's 3070 except it was still like $20ish over msrp but hey better than $200 over msrp

$20 is like the tax n shipping so

[little osprey]

I mean... Its better than being stupid and buying it for 900

[gritty zenith]

true true

it was for his christmas gift bc he wanted a PC and it was his first personal gaming PC so

[little osprey]

damn I really should setup raid 0

thats epic

Raid 0, dual PCIE Gen4 SSD

[subtle marsh]

dad with a 3070

[little osprey]

M.2

5000 mb/s

THATS 10,000 Mb/s

lmao

[gritty zenith]

he wanted to play No Man's Sky in 4k so he got what he wanted lol

[little osprey]

except its more like a suicidal m.2 drive. Your living on the edge.

[gritty zenith]

that sounds hot

[subtle marsh]

best child on the planet lmao

[gritty zenith]

literally

o

[steel tartan]

What should I set those to

[uneven mist]

why is yhour temp limit at 90 lol

u probs wouldnt want your gpu getting that hot

[steel tartan]

Ok lol I’ll lower it

[urban totem]

alright this is what I’m going for so far

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVm79N

[earnest olive]

replace team mp33 with team mp34

that cooler is kind of expensive for a 240mm with no rgb fans

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nxxVgt

psu is not the greatest but i assume you got it bundled with the 3070

it's ok

@urban totem

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYf24d

My build

[dreamy lantern]

Thats a lot of storage

[little osprey]

And they're almost full

[desert gulch]

Lmao buy two tubes of that thermal paste and that's what I paid for my whole air cooler

Which came with a tiny bit of included thermal paste

[little osprey]

@desert gulch my cooler came with thermal paste too

[desert gulch]

Bad quality crap?

[little osprey]

I actually was running stock air cooler before the liquid

[little osprey]

Idk, never used it

[desert gulch]

My 212 came with decent stuff

[little osprey]

I build desktops when I can on the side so a big bottle is more worth it for me

[desert gulch]

Sitting on 3.8ghz, so minor oc, stock fan curve and fan, haven't gone above 55c

On stock cooler was stock speeds sitting low 80s

On full load

[little osprey]

I'm at 4.2ghz per core and don't get above 55

On full load

[desert gulch]

I could make it even cooler by turning up fan curve or adding another fan to the other side

[spice gust]

just remove all panels

[desert gulch]

Actually that makes temps worse

For most things

[little osprey]

My fans are maxed

[desert gulch]

Because the pressure and temp can't be regulated inside the case

[little osprey]

6 case fans at max

[spice gust]

not if you add liquid nitrogen

[desert gulch]

And dust will get in everything

[little osprey]

That's why you have dust covers

[desert gulch]

Yup

[little osprey]

And a radiator

To block intake dust

[desert gulch]

But if you removed the panels

[little osprey]

True

[desert gulch]

Like @spice gustsaid

You would get major dust

[little osprey]

Put chicken wire up and criss cross