#building-and-recc-chat

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cerulean trellis
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@muted patio My speaker isnt beaping

mental steeple
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@little osprey All of the dramless nvme drives mentioned in that list still stomp on any ahci dram equipped drive.

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So your "Dramless SSD<DRAM ssd is still way off

little osprey
mental steeple
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πŸ˜†

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"im going to make inaccurate statements and facepalm when people pick them apart"

balmy patio
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should we summon storage woman?

mental steeple
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storage woman is more hdd oriented

balmy patio
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frick

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but she knows a thing or two about ssd's

mental steeple
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although they are one of the few people who actually kill ssds with how much they write to them.

balmy patio
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lmao

sharp blade
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I look at the X570 Aorus Ultra and it has Usb flashback but it hasn't a button? How does that work?

mental steeple
sharp blade
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need it

mental steeple
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Unless you specifically need more chipset lanes, you're wasting money and often getting worse overall componentry for more money.

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whatcya need the lanes for

sharp blade
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pcie 4 m.2

balmy patio
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fast drives to accomodate my need for speed

mental steeple
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You can still use a PCIE gen 4 m.2 with B550 @sharp blade

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You're limited with multiple without some form of CPU lane bifurcation though.

sharp blade
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i have more than 1

stoic island
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@little osprey Pilot-E is basically the same tier as MP34

little osprey
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near identical drives

mental steeple
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i mean performancewise sure

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componentry not

stoic island
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Yes, mp34/piloe e beats helix L, but 20$ price difference

little osprey
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omg wind

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the average budget consumer doesnt care

mental steeple
little osprey
little osprey
mental steeple
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The average budget consoomer doesnt care about the difference between a helix-L and MP34, or at least shouldn't. $23 is better spent on something tangible like a quieter cpu cooler, or a more reliable power supply, or more user friendly case. QOL features.

stoic island
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Dunno, I thought the point was that helix L and pilot E were very good options, since the average consumer won't care about the rest

mental steeple
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If tthey're within like $10-15 sure i 😴

little osprey
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nah i was replying to windshields

mental steeple
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You'll need a pcie gen 4 graphics card for it to work properly though.

cerulean trellis
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@stoic island I bought a motherboard speaker because my pc broke and it wont beep?

stoic island
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Nowadays I'm leaning more towards giving people helix L in budget cases, and not MP34 until we see actual gains from like direct storage on windows

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@cerulean trellis bruh what

little osprey
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what

cerulean trellis
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motherboard buzzer*

stoic island
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Why

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What

muted patio
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Is it on the right way around?

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Because no DEBUG LED

cerulean trellis
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yeah

muted patio
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NO way to troubleshoot

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It was either that or return PSU, Mobo, RAM and CPU lol

mental steeple
inner vigil
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if i have an i7 8700 and a 3090 with several rgb fans in the o11 mini, which psu should i get? It needs an SFF psu

stoic island
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Welp, debug LEDs op

cerulean trellis
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dang

muted patio
mental steeple
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But we'll see when it's actually implimented.

stoic island
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@mental steeple I dunno, I don't even really know how nand even works yet as you can tell, but I was under the impression direct storage would take more use of seq perf?

little osprey
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can someone help me build a good gaming pc? i dont know a lot about custom pcs

mental steeple
stoic island
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Hm interesting

cerulean trellis
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b365m

mental steeple
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Sequential don't apply too much outside of copying files

stoic island
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I thought the whole point was you can just use the speed of the drive to copy it over to vram?

cerulean trellis
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do i have to enable boot beep

stoic island
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Via compression using gpu

mental steeple
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Unsure

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Don't think sequentials will be that important in that regard

muted patio
little osprey
mental steeple
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Sequential read performance has a little bit more to do with the flash and controller than having a dedicated dram cache.

stoic island
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@little osprey well, what do you need help with?

mental steeple
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A dedicated dram cache can act as a buffer and prefetch cache for the job though

stoic island
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@mental steeple yea I know, not on the dram vs hmb part, I mean mp34 vs helix L because of the seq perf difference

mental steeple
little osprey
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everything basically idk the first thing about building a custom gaming pc

stoic island
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Hm alright, I'm still curious on the exact implementation

muted patio
cerulean trellis
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i have a i3 9100f

stoic island
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@little osprey so, broadly, what do you want it to do and what are you willing to spend?

cerulean trellis
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ok 1 sec

little osprey
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hmm maybe around 2500? 3000?

stoic island
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Including monitor and peripheral (mouse keeb headset)?

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And USD, correct?

little osprey
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not including mouse headset keyboard and mousepad but including monitor and im from nz so NZD

mental steeple
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Just a gaming system?

little osprey
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ill mostly use it for gaming but also for coding and stuff

mental steeple
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Do you do large compiles?

stoic island
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Alright, so basically 2500nzd or so for a system and monitor?

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And yea, how important is coding to you, and what is "stuff"?

little osprey
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yeah i have the monitor chosen lemme send a link

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just school work

stoic island
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If you do editing or rendering, you should mention that

cerulean trellis
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yeah it wont work

little osprey
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coding isnt too important

muted patio
stoic island
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I'll prob give you some other monitor suggestions unless you choose M27q or something already >:D

cerulean trellis
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:-:

little osprey
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can i post links here?

cerulean trellis
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should i send video of it?

stoic island
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Bot might eat it, can you tell me the name?

little osprey
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Oops

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Cant send links

stoic island
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Yep, bot ate it xD

little osprey
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I’ll tell you the name

muted patio
cerulean trellis
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ok 1 sec

mental steeple
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but here's a list to start with

stoic island
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damn

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I'll work off of it in a sec

mental steeple
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some people here are of the opinion that the seagate barracuda sucks big doo doo

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but i 😴 HDD fine

little osprey
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titan army n27fw 27"curved full hd gaming monitor 165hz samsung va panel

stoic island
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but at least it looks like 3070 in stock

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the hell is a titan army lel

mental steeple
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gauged af though

little osprey
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thats it but if you have any other suggestions im open to them

mental steeple
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NZ money value doo doo

stoic island
mental steeple
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nz psu market is sad to somehow RMX is the best option 😿

little osprey
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yeah thats it!

stoic island
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lmao ikr

little osprey
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i definitely want a curved gaming monitor

stoic island
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it's sad

mental steeple
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RM internal componentry is real meh.

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muh japanese capacitors

stoic island
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@little osprey do you get cheap shipping from AU to NZ?

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lol

little osprey
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ill look for the parts at shops in nz but if i cant find them im not too bothered about shipping

stoic island
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okay

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@mental steeple PCPP only shows cheapest in selection so, yea

little osprey
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yay thx sm!!

jovial berry
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Hi so I just got the asrock b550 pro4 and the Ryzen 5600x but I found out that my motherboard will need a bios update. Only thing is that I don’t know how to do that can someone please me?

fossil halo
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wait

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i have this stick

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ram stick

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1gb ddr2

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could i put it in my pc and have 17gb of ram

muted patio
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@cerulean trellis what was that you posted in here?

fossil halo
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veintage

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vintage*

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will it work?

cerulean trellis
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a video

muted patio
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That wasn't a video

stoic island
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ddr2 is completely different from ddr3 or ddr4

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So uh you prob can't just slap it in a modern system

muted patio
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Or it didn't load like one lol

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Checking now

fossil halo
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or

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could i remove ddr4 and boot off one gig of ddr2

stoic island
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Bro

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The slots are different

fossil halo
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oh really?

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mb

cerulean trellis
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lololololololol

stoic island
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It's what, 240pin for ddr3, 288pin for ddr4

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Forgot ddr2

fossil halo
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i didnt know that lmfao i just had this ddr2 stick

stoic island
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The notch is also different

fossil halo
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lying around in the house

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1gb ddr2

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from my dads old pc

muted patio
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I checked the manual

cerulean trellis
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did you see the video

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?

muted patio
cerulean trellis
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shuts off

muted patio
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It SHOULD beep if there's an issue

cerulean trellis
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its not tho

muted patio
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Take the ram out and try it again

cerulean trellis
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:-:

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ok

muted patio
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I want to see if you get DRAM beeps

cerulean trellis
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ok

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i got beeps

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4

muted patio
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4 beeps, pause 4 beeps?

cerulean trellis
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5

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beepd

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its 5 beeps

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and then shuts off

muted patio
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Try the ram in the slot closest to the CPU, skip one, next slot

cerulean trellis
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ok

muted patio
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so from left to right it would be slots 1 and 3

cerulean trellis
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ok

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so i tried both sticks of ram and they both still turn off the pc without beeps

orchid matrix
cerulean trellis
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not that 1660ti

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you could get a 3060ti for 200 dollars less

muted patio
cerulean trellis
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no

orchid matrix
cerulean trellis
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i have had the mobo for like 4/5 months

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just wait for all of it to be over

jovial berry
cerulean trellis
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and why you need windows

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you could get it for free

muted patio
jovial berry
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is a flashback the same thing as a flash drive or is it different ?

muted patio
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Different. it's a way to update the BIOS with no CPU

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It's amotherboard feature

muted patio
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I can't remember

cerulean trellis
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my gpu was out when i took my ram out

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because i have to take it out to move t

muted patio
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Oh

cerulean trellis
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move the ram

muted patio
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Yeah, gotcha

jovial berry
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So that would mean I would have to buy another cpu? πŸ˜”πŸ˜”

muted patio
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I'd check to see if it boots though

cerulean trellis
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is my pc broken?

muted patio
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Some boards are starting to ship with the proper BIOS here and there

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If it won't boot, send the board back and get a different one

muted patio
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But it's not

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Your pump is plugged into the CPU fan header?

cerulean trellis
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yeah

muted patio
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So it's not that

cerulean trellis
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is it my ram

muted patio
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I don't think so

rigid oracle
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do you think a monitor would fit in this area? i put a banana for scale to show how big it is. (partially serious partially a joke)

πŸ“Ž image0.jpg
muted patio
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No beeps

cerulean trellis
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cpu?

muted patio
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That or motherboard

cerulean trellis
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hahaha banna

muted patio
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I'm reading still, gimme a sec

cerulean trellis
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dang it

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ok

rigid oracle
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like what kind of monitor might fit in there

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cus i’m thinking about getting a pc but that’s the only desk i have

cerulean trellis
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maybe a 24inch but not alot of mouse space

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yo uneed a 60 percent keyboard

rigid oracle
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i have a super small keyboard, used it with a mouse. mouse space is tolerable

cerulean trellis
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ohhhhhh

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ok then yeah it would prob fit

rigid oracle
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also this was a pretty cheap keyboard but i’m working with a tight budget here so Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cerulean trellis
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then yeah you will be fine

rigid oracle
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epic thanks for the help πŸ‘

cerulean trellis
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πŸ™‚

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@muted patio also i need to clean my gpu it really dusty

muted patio
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That won't keep it from booting though lol

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Board has Dual BIOS, no reason for it NOT to boot

cerulean trellis
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its mobo then

muted patio
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I'm leaning that way yeah

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Reading one more thing

cerulean trellis
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could it be cmos?

muted patio
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mebbe, reading something

cerulean trellis
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ok

muted patio
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Try these, see if it boots

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Anyway, here is how you boot back into the backup BIOS:

Method 1

Shut off your computer
Hold the power button until your computer starts and shuts down again
Press the power button again, your backup BIOS should kick in now and should re-flash the backup BIOS if there's anything wrong with the new one.
Method 2

Shut off your computer
Hold the power AND the reset button for about 10 sec, than release.
It should boot into the backup BIOS now.

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Try both methods

cerulean trellis
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ok

muted patio
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if these don't work, RMA the board yeah

cerulean trellis
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ok

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shoould i try it without the ram

muted patio
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No, with RAM and GPU installed so if it boots it'll work

cerulean trellis
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how could i do the first one

muted patio
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Press power button, wait for it to shut off and immediately press again

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EZPZ

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Method 2 might work better but try both

cerulean trellis
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1st one didnt work

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i cant do the second one because it just turns of

muted patio
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WIth the computer off, holding both power and reset does nothing?

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It takes a while

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hold for 10-15 seconds then release

cerulean trellis
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it does nothing

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it just starts power cyciling

muted patio
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Poop

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I'd RMA the board then 😦

cerulean trellis
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i cant

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😦

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but my birthday is coming up close so i ould prob get another mobo

elfin anvil
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Hey guys should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or i5 10400F, the i5 is like $40 off rn

viral ore
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10400f at 150 is better than the 3600 at 200

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plus, you get to cheap out on memory with the 10400f

muted patio
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If it's on a Z490 with 3200 ram it's faster

viral ore
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but z490 pricy

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o

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m

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g

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segotep motherboard

cerulean trellis
viral ore
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how much you paying for the 9700f

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or 9600f

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unless you're looking for a board to pair with the 9100f in your flair?

cerulean trellis
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?

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i have a 9100f

viral ore
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then save a few bucks

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but, that could be a bit risky with getting a bad board

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thats a new board, but doesnt have a whole lot of rear usb

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ahh, actually i dont remember if H310 supports 9th gen chips

cerulean trellis
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i am kinda going for looks

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or this one

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does the phantom gaming 4 light up

dreamy lantern
viral ore
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yes

cerulean trellis
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does the phantom 4 light up

viral ore
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theres this for 70, but its a smol boi

viral ore
cerulean trellis
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ok

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well i guess thats my choice

cyan stone
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Hey guys, looking to build a PC specifically for Atlas server hosting on the cheap. The generic 'recommendations' simply state requirements as 4gigs ddr4, 2 cpu cores, 50gigs storage per server instance. I'm looking to support 4 server instances (they link together to create on playable map). Does anyone have some recommendations for a decent starting point?

runic oracle
cyan stone
strong knoll
cyan stone
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Yeah, that's why I asked lol

dreamy lantern
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i am waiting for rt x 3000 to be in stock

next prairie
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hey my pre built pc came with an rgb remote but it dosnt work. were assuming we have to plug in the cord somewhere that came with it.

pale gyro
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Depending on which, your 650 PSU may not be sufficient to support your choice of GPU

dreamy lantern
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3070 the most

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maybe 3070ti

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if the power is not too much

pliant lake
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you'll be waiting a while for the 3070Ti as it isnt even announced yet

dreamy lantern
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not really overclocking the cpu also

pale gyro
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650 should be fine but the engineer in me screams 750 lol

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750 is also more future proof

balmy patio
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what cpu does he have?

dreamy lantern
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ryzen 5800x

small osprey
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750w to be safe

dreamy lantern
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budget

balmy patio
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yeah you should be fine with a good 650w psu

pale gyro
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@dreamy lantern What's your intended use for the machine?

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Very CPU heavy

little osprey
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that is all such a weird combination

dreamy lantern
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lol

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i know

balmy patio
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like a 650amp or a 700w neo eco gold zen

little osprey
dreamy lantern
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?

little osprey
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talking about negz

dreamy lantern
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what?

balmy patio
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ahh

little osprey
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neo eco gold zen

dreamy lantern
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is it better ?

balmy patio
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im still a newbie when it comes with psu's tbh and i jus go off of a tier list

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the 650 amp is still a great choice tho, right? @little osprey

little osprey
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negz is a fine unit, just has better choices at its price

little osprey
dreamy lantern
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amp is tier A ?

little osprey
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eagp is 10 usd cheaper and will perform just fine for a build around there

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theyre the same unit iirc

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just seasonic remodels

dreamy lantern
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you have link to some eagp ?

little osprey
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dont know why everyone calls it eagp
should be called ewgp

balmy patio
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smh jus call it earthwatts

muted patio
balmy patio
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took me along time to figure out what eagp meant

little osprey
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vintage, do u recall if eagp and amp are on the same seasonic platform as each other ?

muted patio
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I don't

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I think just AMP is the Seasonic platform

little osprey
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hmm

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ill look into it

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20 usd cheaper than a pro, and u get an excuse to go on m-atx case

muted patio
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Does it have diagnostic LED's?

little osprey
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saving u even more money ✨

dreamy lantern
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i might get the earth watts i only want to get something from newegg and the earth watts is out of stock right now

muted patio
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Cuz I hate the ones that don't

little osprey
muted patio
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if it doesn't don't shill it lol

little osprey
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i will still shill

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20 usd cheaper than a pro.

muted patio
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Had to deal with multuiple cheap Giga boards that don't have it

little osprey
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diagnostic leds can be useful

muted patio
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And troubleshooting is a nightmare

little osprey
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wait does a pro have it ?

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diagnostic leds i mean ^

muted patio
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because no speaker and no LED's = guessing game

little osprey
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or just follow common sense of troubleshooting heh

muted patio
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Ok no POST fans spin

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is it ram, CPU or MB

little osprey
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cpu

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easy

muted patio
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No way to tell

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Nah fam

little osprey
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u msut trust in ur inner self

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wait no its ram

muted patio
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had it be MB couple times

little osprey
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gg

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what ?

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mb dead but fans ?

muted patio
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Ye

little osprey
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molex fans Thonk

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kek

muted patio
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Passed though power but no post

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Ded BIOS

little osprey
full atlas
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Hello again momo Hurrrr

little osprey
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okay thats not fair

little osprey
dreamy lantern
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?

full atlas
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So I offered 20$ for the Corsair air 240. ||momo ignore Bc you prolly saw in other server||

muted patio
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For $130 it should have that

little osprey
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not even speaker ?

muted patio
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Pffff

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mobos haven't had speakers in a decade or more lol

little osprey
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does a pro have diagnostic led

muted patio
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IDK, checking

little osprey
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or like anything

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maybe even just beeps

muted patio
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No mobo comes with a speaker

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None of em

little osprey
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r u sure..

muted patio
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I've seen a lot of boards

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none of em have em

little osprey
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came across this one

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follow me up on a pros diagnostics pls

muted patio
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Pro doesn't either

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I'll be honest

little osprey
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ha

muted patio
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Gigabyte is bad about that

little osprey
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shill aorus pro p

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gogoogog

muted patio
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Giga byte is GREAT for Q flash

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bad about diagnostics

little osprey
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q flash

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bios update with files on usb ?

muted patio
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Ye, flashback

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no CPU required

little osprey
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i always called it flashback

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never called it q flash, but ik thats the setting name kek

muted patio
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Eh, Giga calls it Q-Flash

little osprey
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giga is weird Sadge

full atlas
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I like my giga.... board

tardy lintel
muted patio
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Should be yes

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Pea sized

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I see your last application was a bit overkill

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Or is that factory goop?

tardy lintel
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That was factory

muted patio
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OOF

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maybe a tad more

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That's a GPU die

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Give it another horn lol

tardy lintel
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It’s cpu

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Laptop

rigid oracle
muted patio
rigid oracle
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can i use water instead of thermal paste (satire)

balmy patio
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water will just evaporate

urban oyster
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friends dad tried putting in a new processor, but there computer won’t turn on. It does for a second, fans start going, then it shuts down again. He tried to reset the cmos jumper and it didn’t work. He thinks he updated the bios or whatever; he said something updated, but wasn’t sure if there’s a separate thing for it he has to download or update or whatever. Thoughts?

desert gulch
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And screw up your crap if it gets anywhere off the cpu

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@rigid oracle DO NOT use water in a pc

rigid oracle
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why not

desert gulch
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It'll screw up your pc if it gets off the plate of cpu

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Which is likely

rigid oracle
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i mean i did put (satire) at the end of that message for a reason

desert gulch
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Water bad idea

muted patio
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It was a joke

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kek

desert gulch
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Oh lol

muted patio
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Just use orange juice instead

desert gulch
dreamy lantern
muted patio
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Dood left the seal out of the waterblock lol

desert gulch
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Lol

muted patio
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There's no o-ring in it

desert gulch
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I think it was intentional

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Why else would you be recording?

plain vortex
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Hey guys

desert gulch
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Hi

muted patio
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Cuz you wanted to show the water going through and you messed up?

dreamy lantern
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hi

muted patio
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IDK

desert gulch
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Yeah idk

plain vortex
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I'm building my first pc

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Got a 3400g

desert gulch
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Ok

dreamy lantern
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ow

balmy patio
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sheesh

balmy patio
desert gulch
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^

plain vortex
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I think it's going ok so far

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Just waiting for the cpu to come in

mint viper
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hey if anybody could help i built my pc a few months ago an i usually have an enjoyable experience while gaming but it stutters a little bit i feel like its not running @ the smoothest it can be any suggestions its a ryzen 5 3600 with rx 5500xt

desert gulch
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Drivers on gpu

muted patio
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hard drive or SSD?

plain vortex
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2x8

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Ssd

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860 evo

muted patio
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What speed ram?

plain vortex
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500gb

desert gulch
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Were talking to blue

plain vortex
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Oh sorry

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Lol

desert gulch
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Lol all good

balmy patio
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smh

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its fine

mint viper
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2 both a 3600 mhz

desert gulch
#

Post a pic once you get it done in #build-pics , would love to see the finished build rokume

#

Blue do you have amd's adrenaline software?

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You need to get that for drivers and such

plain vortex
#

Alright Ryan

desert gulch
#

Crappy drivers can cause stuttering

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Also make sure nothing is thermal throttling

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So make sure gpu and stuff is staying cool enough

mint viper
#

i had a matx motherboard upgraded to b550 asrock extreme 4 and upgraded from ryzen 3100 to 3600 got a kraken so temps can be cool installed all drivers for everything turned free sync on and off even got a separate graphics card jus too see if the one i had was bad but no samething since the beginning even took it to geek squad

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also my case is nzxt h510 and 750 gold plus power supply with a m.2 ssd

desert gulch
#

You sure gpu is staying cool enough?

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H510 not great for airflow

small osprey
mint viper
#

usually around 65c

small osprey
#

idle?

desert gulch
#

Main or junction temp?

#

Junction temp max I'd say would prevent thermal throttling would be about 90 junction on those AMD cards

muted patio
#

Seems more like a software issue

mint viper
#

idle gpu stays @ 40c and cpu 45c

muted patio
#

I'd use DDU to wipe the drivers

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and reinstall them

desert gulch
#

Yeah

muted patio
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Especially if you swapped cards and such

mint viper
#

yea i used ddu too

muted patio
#

IN Safe Mode?

mint viper
#

yes

muted patio
#

oof

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Gaming resolution?

#

Just one game or all of them?

mint viper
#

like its not that bad of a experience its just stutters here and there i jus feel like it should be smoother you know, mainly shooters cs thats mostly all i play an play @ 1080p on low settings to get high fps i even cap my fps too and still no good

civic tusk
#

What's the cpu?

#

Is that not the potential cause

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Also are you running ram in dual channel

mint viper
#

and get like 400 mb download speed for my wifi

#

ryzen 3600

civic tusk
#

And what's the gpu again?

mint viper
#

rx 5500xt

civic tusk
#

Hmmm yeah so no bottleneck

mint viper
#

an i got a 1650 super jus too see if it was the gpu an no samething

civic tusk
#

Amd cpus are abit known for not having the best frame time performance and 1% lows

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But should not be so bad that you noticing serious stuttering

mint viper
#

even took it too geek squad an they stressed test it as well

vital scaffold
#

id this a good part list budget $800

muted patio
#

How many FPS you getting?

cerulean trellis
#

is the MSI MAG B365M MORTAR LGA 1151 good for a i3 9100f?

muted patio
#

Over a certain amount and it becomes CPU rather than GPU bound

vital scaffold
mint viper
#

thats my pc parts list

muted patio
#

After a certain point at 1080p, it becomes CPU rather than GPU bound

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I think GN did some testing and after 250 FPS or something it becomes a CPU workload

#

Try limiting FPS maybe if you can?

mint viper
#

i dont play cs go but cold war average 140 and fortnite like above 200 warzone like 100

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yea i cap my fps to 144 cs thats my monitors hertz

muted patio
#

Are you playing games from the SSD or an HDD?

mint viper
#

only have cold war on ssd but i tried to do it on both an checked if all my drives are good by this progam i just frogot the name but yea they checked out good

balmy patio
tardy lintel
#

hey vintageracer i put the heatsink back on and now i idle at 40 not 70

vital scaffold
balmy patio
vital scaffold
#

thx

cerulean trellis
#

is the MSI MAG B365M MORTAR LGA 1151 fine for the i 100f9

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i3 9100f*

brazen sphinx
cerulean trellis
#

yeah

brazen sphinx
#

for a i5 10400f

#

not worth it go for a b460m pro

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youll save 60usd

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who ever build is that

balmy patio
#

it is worth it

brazen sphinx
#

no

balmy patio
#

until b560 comes out

brazen sphinx
#

not for that proccessor

#

i have no idea or info when b560 comes out

desert gulch
#

@muted patio is it worth it?

cerulean trellis
#

MSI MAG B365M MORTAR LGA 1151

brazen sphinx
#

go for a b460m

balmy patio
cerulean trellis
#

is the MSI MAG B365M MORTAR LGA 1151 overkill for i3 9100f?

#

ahh ok

brazen sphinx
#

yes

cerulean trellis
#

is it overkill?

#

it only cost 83 dollars

brazen sphinx
#

wdym by overkill to be exact?

balmy patio
brazen sphinx
#

sir

balmy patio
#

gn made a video on it and it beat the 3600 with the same ram speeds, sir, for about the same price

cerulean trellis
#

i mean like should i go with another board

brazen sphinx
#

first off

#

first off

balmy patio
#

the watch

brazen sphinx
#

the i5 10400f is a locked proccessor youll not able to use the fullest of the z490 mobo

balmy patio
#

ik that

desert gulch
#

Yeah we know it's not a k

brazen sphinx
#

please theyre expensive

#

the ram thingy doesnt REALLY matter that much

balmy patio
#

it's worth it until b560 comes out, which will, eventually, but for the time being, pretty good value imo

desert gulch
#

It still matters

#

With it it can beat the 3600

brazen sphinx
#

it can already beat the 3600 with b460m btw

uncut pelican
#

Damnit

muted patio
#

Lol. Z490 + 10400 + 3200mhz ram beats a 3600

desert gulch
#

Hi vintage

uncut pelican
#

What do i do if i dont wanna buy it lmao

desert gulch
#

Z490 best to go with for 10400f right?

brazen sphinx
#

no

muted patio
desert gulch
#

^

balmy patio
#

i am amd fanboys are crying at that statement

tame sable
#

Hello

desert gulch
#

I bought my 3600 at like 165 so fine by me

brazen sphinx
#

whats the budget of the build?

desert gulch
#

Not worth it for msrp imo tho

tame sable
#

Hi

balmy patio
#

hey

balmy patio
#

where'd you buy it?

tame sable
#

Would the amd fx-8300 be relevant today

#

?

desert gulch
#

Yeah joesr that was like 7 months ago before the crazy stuff started

balmy patio
#

dang

desert gulch
#

I mean prices weren't great back then, but way way better than now

tame sable
#

Would the amd fx8300 be still an ok processor today

balmy patio
#

it's ok

fossil halo
#

its fine

#

old tho

tame sable
#

Ye

balmy patio
#

such times

fossil halo
#

and then if u go back a couple months before that

#

3600 was selling for 150

#

doubled in price kekw

balmy patio
#

smh

fossil halo
#

fr

tame sable
#

I’m thinking of getting a rig upgrade from my fx 8300 + 1050TI to something better

#

Think you could help

desert gulch
#

Budget?

fossil halo
#

now would not at all be the best time to do so

#

in short

tame sable
#

Say Β£1000 - Β£1150

desert gulch
#

Okay

fossil halo
#

if you can stick through the pandemic with ur current rig

desert gulch
#

Wait for a bit

#

Yeah

fossil halo
#

ur far better off when prices normalize

#

but if u just cant hold on i can make u a parts list

tame sable
#

Not really pc fell over and the graphics card has trouble staying in

fossil halo
#

oh jeez

#

ok

#

aight ill make a list

#

gimma a couple mins

tame sable
#

Ok

fossil halo
#

simple sizzler

tame sable
#

Ye

fossil halo
#

do u need wifi/have a wifi card

tame sable
#

Nah

fossil halo
#

u got ethernet?

tame sable
#

Ye

fossil halo
#

aight

#

thats good

#

and do u care much for rgb

tame sable
#

Not really

fossil halo
#

and do you plan yo recycle your storage

desert gulch
#

You going for workstation or more gaming?

tame sable
#

Bit of both

desert gulch
#

Ok

fossil halo
#

like should i include new storage

desert gulch
#

3060 good for that

fossil halo
#

or do u plan to recycle ur hard disks

tame sable
#

Well a switch to sad would be nice

fossil halo
#

aight

tame sable
#

I’ll keep my old hard drives with games in

desert gulch
#

You gonna reuse anything?

fossil halo
#

so like do u have an hdd? that way i can include a small ssd for booting

desert gulch
#

Like psu or case?

fossil halo
#

if u have such an old rig i wouldnt recommend reusing psu

desert gulch
#

Ehh 1050ti ain't that old

tame sable
#

Well it’s a 500 wat

desert gulch
#

Oh

#

Yeah we may want more

#

Depending on parts

tame sable
#

Ye

fossil halo
#

ah

#

i mean in a 1k budget

#

i suppose i could fit in a 3060ti

tame sable
#

Ye

fossil halo
#

ayo is this cclonline thing

#

a uk thing

#

is it reliable?

#

like should i base prices on it

#

and this aria pc thing

desert gulch
#

Use ppcp

fossil halo
#

i am

desert gulch
#

The it's legit

fossil halo
#

but its autofilling uk specific retailers

desert gulch
#

That's fine

tame sable
#

I am in uk

desert gulch
#

Pcpp uses good retailers

fossil halo
#

now i dont really know the cost of gpu's atm in the uk

#

so ill convert from dollars to get a rough idea

tame sable
#

Ye

#

Not all the parts have to be in stock currently

#

Like the new amd and nvidia stuff

#

Is there a way to share custom rigs like a wish list on here?

fossil halo
#

yea yea

#

go to a website called

#

and since ur in uk

#

just make it uk.pcpar...

tame sable
#

Ok

#

BRB

fast dust
#

And make sure to share the right link

fossil halo
#

LOL

#

mfs be sharing the address bar link

#

LOL

#

@tame sable

#

this ought to get u started

#

the rtx 3060 ti is just a random card

#

bc like u say that ur fine with wating a bit

tame sable
#

Ye

fossil halo
#

but yea

#

that list should get you started

fast dust
fossil halo
#

bc it no come with cpu cooler

#

and aio quiet

fast dust
#

But it does though

fossil halo
#

and i mean he had the money to spend

#

well it does

#

but thats like saying

#

idk

#

that random aliexpress psu will start ur system

fast dust
#

Yeah instead of spending it on an AIO, get a better CPU maybe?
Or, just spend less and get a cheaper air cooler

#

You don’t need water cooling for a 65w 10400

fossil halo
#

that is also true

muted patio
#

ID coolin SSE224

#

Gammax 400

fossil halo
#

or 10600kf?

#

is that a good deal

#

biowomen

#

wow

#

hi

brazen sphinx
#

ahhh

fossil halo
#

biowoman man

brazen sphinx
#

yes the price is good

fossil halo
#

idk about uk stuff

#

my dad's friend lives there tho

#

so green there omg

#

compared to here

tame sable
#

Could probably use the aio as a cpu fridge

brazen sphinx
#

why cheap out on the ram when u have a compatable mobo

fossil halo
#

its 3200mhz

brazen sphinx
#

u can get more right

fossil halo
#

i dont think u really need to go past that with intel

#

3200 is the sweet spot

brazen sphinx
#

okay then

fossil halo
#

and like crucial ballistix isnt even a bad kit

brazen sphinx
#

yes

fossil halo
#

i have some tem t force thing

#

but

#

it has rgb

#

so its like 6900mhz cl1

tame sable
#

Is there a custom pc builder built into newegg

fossil halo
#

there is

#

but it only uses parts from newegg

#

and newegg doesnt have the best prices all the time

muted patio
#

And it doesn't tell you about compatibility issues

tame sable
#

If you did work carefully you could get a better system I’m sure

fossil halo
#

yea u definitely can

#

ut

#

prices rn

#

are

#

stupid

tame sable
#

Lemme see

#

Give me a sec

#

How do I get it up?

#

Nvm

drifting garnet
cerulean trellis
#

why?

muted patio
#

Cuz Adata dirty

#

Playing the old bait and switch

#

I wouldn't buy their ram OR their SSD's

#

But the Mushkin is fine

cerulean trellis
#

i have a question is the MS Imag B365M MORTAR Motherboard a fine mmotherboard

muted patio
cerulean trellis
#

ok

#

it on sale on newegg

#

but gotta wait till my bday till i get a new mobo

muted patio
#

😦

#

Why can't you return that one?

#

SHould still be under warranty

#

RMA it

drifting garnet
#

So would getting a drive with DRam be worth the extra?

muted patio
#

Depends

cerulean trellis
#

i bought it off ebay

muted patio
#

Are you using to write to or read from?

cerulean trellis
#

won a action

#

auction*

muted patio
drifting garnet
#

I don't know what he is doing with it

muted patio
#

Unless it's older

muted patio
drifting garnet
#

ok

muted patio
#

Lilke, loading games, OS, things like that

little osprey
#

Yep

muted patio
#

For editing, doing pictures/videos, not so great

drifting garnet
#

For me the dram would be good

little osprey
#

Quick question.

cerulean trellis
#

how could i get a rma

drifting garnet
#

Which I already have an mp34 so

little osprey
#

What does the second crystal diskmark mean?

muted patio
little osprey
#

I ran the test and i got my rated speeds for the drive

muted patio
cerulean trellis
#

ok where s the serial number

little osprey
#

I have multiple "tests" i think idk

#

but 1 drive

muted patio
#

Sequential Read

little osprey
#

So id assume my first one is rated speed

#

since its 5000 mb.s

#

mb/s

#

And my drive is rated for it.

cerulean trellis
#

wheres the serial number?

little osprey
#

But don't really get the rest.

muted patio
#

Ah crap, I gotta look it up

muted patio
#

I honestly don't know on that particular board

cerulean trellis
#

ok

tame sable
#

Hello again

cerulean trellis
#

i will check

little osprey
#

because pretty much my drive is fast as hell

#

but i just don't really get why the other numbers are slower

#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

muted patio
#

It's gen 4

#

So

#

gonna be fast

#

my Gen 3

dreamy slate
#

I have a question about building a pc. So I’m building one right now with one of my friends and when we plug everything and I follow a guide to do it. There is like no power when I turn it on but the LED on the case is on. Anyone know what could be causing this issue?

muted patio
#

Do the fans spin?

dreamy slate
#

No

little osprey
#

Yes it goes real fast.

muted patio
#

And please don't follow a guide

#

Every motherboard will be slightly different

little osprey
#

read the manual

muted patio
#

CHeck the manual that came with the board for the proper connections

#

Because not all connections are the same

little osprey
#

Manual will tell you connections and error lights

dreamy slate
#

Ok I’ll check it

muted patio
#

particularly the front panel headers

little osprey
#

Yeah I got my gen4 ssd back when they were releasing

#

So it be real fast

#

So fast I have to restart to go into bios....

muted patio
#

Turn BIOS fastboot off lol

little osprey
#

yeah thats a good idea

#

It boots like so fast

#

but sometime it slows down for some reason

#

lol

tame sable
#

I’m back

muted patio
#

Who's back?

tame sable
#

Me

#

I think I’ve found an ok rig

#

For the price πŸ™‚

muted patio
#

Ah, i see. I wasn't here for the above conversation

little osprey
#

Do SSD's slow down over time?

tame sable
drifting garnet
muted patio
tame sable
#

lol

little osprey
#

Just why

drifting garnet
#

this is why i hate ibuypower

muted patio
#

usually 80% is the tipping point

#

Sometimes less

little osprey
#

ahhh

#

Does it matter how old it is?

drifting garnet
#

Some people just wanna watch the world burn.

little osprey
#

Since I have a new m.2 coming

#

Im wondering if I should swap that with boot drive

muted patio
#

Age doesn't matter so much as data written

little osprey
#

oh.

#

alright. thats what I thought

#

Its mostly capacity

muted patio
#

Unless we talking years

little osprey
#

^

#

Like 5 years written

#

But I have 1800tbw

#

Lmao

#

I doubt i will write that much in 1 year

muted patio
#

1800TBW on one drive?

little osprey
#

yes

tame sable
#

Hello

muted patio
#

damn

little osprey
#

Around the "level of the rocket 4 at around 1800tbw written"

tame sable
#

I’ve built the system on newegg

#

Is @fossil halo still on?

cerulean trellis
#

how do i find the serial number if i have the box

little osprey
cerulean trellis
#

ok thx

tame sable
#

Hi

cerulean trellis
#

what is the check number?

tame sable
#

Hi

#

Is anyone here

cerulean trellis
#

yeah

muted patio
#

@old heart no idea why the bot got that TBH

#

Said Duplicated Text

#

Try again maybe with less numbers

sinful hornet
#

when will people realise their messages are getting deleted when they talk in #build-pics and they cant talk there ;-;

muted patio
#

They tried to post a pic and text

#

bot nuked the text for some reason

sinful hornet
#

yea, but i have it on @ me for all and i see what people type every time they type something there

#

and i see how many times people try talking there

#

kinda funny

#

bruh he's still going

balmy patio
#

smh

sinful hornet
#

oh nvm he actually sent a picture that time

muted patio
#

I can see deleted messages lol

calm arch
#

hey guys quick question

#

.

#

😦

#

am mad rn

balmy patio
#

dang

calm arch
#

can someone find me a good 3080 build with 32 gb and good amount of storage space

balmy patio
calm arch
#

at least 2 tb

rich helm
#

Also what budget lol

calm arch
#

2.7 and under

balmy patio
calm arch
#

gaming

#

like uh

balmy patio
#

just that?

calm arch
#

gta, rl, roblox and whatever other game i find time to play

muted patio
#

You need a 3080 for that?

#

4K or something?

desert gulch
#

You don't need a 3080 for that

#

Yeah

calm arch
#

well i don't need but i want

balmy patio
#

and 32 gb of ram?

calm arch
#

ya

desert gulch
#

Go like 3070 or 3060ti

little osprey
#

wheeeze

desert gulch
#

Way better value for what you need

little osprey
#

3080

blazing aurora
#

32 gb of ram for robloxwuuut

little osprey
#

Get something better lul

#

3090 roblox kekw

blazing aurora
#

3060 ti would be fine

little osprey
#

3060ti fine.

#

yeah

#

or even turing

blazing aurora
#

yeah

balmy patio
calm arch
#

HAHA SIKE FIND ME A 3090 BUILD

#

90'ED ON KID

balmy patio
#

smh

muted patio
#

Yeah, if ya'll gonna do stuff like this do it somewhere else

sinful hornet
#

bruv how much money do ya'll people have

calm arch
#

that is bryan he is an idiot

desert gulch
#

Go to general if you wanna screw around

still roostBOT
#
Pity#1530 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

calm arch
#

wow

little osprey
sinful hornet
balmy patio
#

general is just a whole other place ngl

calm arch
#

LISTEN HERE BUDDY I AINT MESSING AROUND, I NEED A GOOD BUILD

little osprey
#

Imma head back to general where its nice and quiet

balmy patio
#

you go out for two min and they're talking about sum else already

calm arch
#

wow thanks for the help new egg server of pc's

muted patio
#

Just chill for a minute

#

Lol

#

Takes a hot minute to put one together.

#

Kid

little osprey
#

Oh no.

sinful hornet
#

yike

little osprey
#

Racer gonna be going angerrrrrrrrrrrr

muted patio
#

have a time out

sinful hornet
#

lmao

little osprey
#

these mods don't get enough credit for having to put up with daycare.

desert gulch
#

Correction - mod assist

#

The orange roke